Shane Dawson & Accountability
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To frame it as "losing a job" is a really helpful way to put it. Like with any other job we typically fully accept that you will lose your job if you do something unethical. Why shouldn't that apply in this case???
Fun fact: Shane lost a real life job, along with getting his brother, and I think 1 or 2 other employees fired because he filmed a video at his job. The video had them
-pole dancing
-showed a few people’s before and after weight loss pictures on a wall joking that they gained it all back (he worked for a weight loss program)
-Had multiple coworkers read graphic or nsfw content aloud (I didn’t understand what they were reading but I remember the line “that horny fucker” if that paints the picture)
-Shot sketches during work hours
-Went to salon later in the video. Looked around checking the area before saying “ok good. So I have black people hair. She’s going to make me white again”. I think he just meant his hair is kinda wavy but I’m not even sure what he meant.
I remember him talking about it a bunch growing up, and it always felt like he told it as a “poor me” kinda story. Maybe that’s just how I remember it though. I understand a lot of these things were jokes for the audience but this was at a work place. If I were even seen on my phone at a job I’d be throughly reprimanded. Plus I just kept thinking ,”why would you post this”.
@@MoniSour Exactly! I've been fired for literally no reason before. Lol
This is how I feel about cancel culture in general. Entertainers are inherently at the whim of the public. If people don't like you anymore you're out of a job. That simple.
My parents did their best to keep me away from inappropriate shit like Shane dawson. When they saw I watched it, they explained why it was bad and monitored what i watched when they could. But they both worked a lot. I found ways around it. Kids are curious and like to feel rebellious. They'll find a way. So I'm more concerned that the creator is responsible.
Same, I was probably 8-11 when I got into Shane. My parents never found out and I think it’s because I used the browser instead of the app and tried hiding it, but either way, I still watched it and still took the stuff he joked about seriously. I’ve now learned that what he produced was down right vile and it’s scary that a kid can find ways to get around parental rules and watch anything
Also the platform for failing to remove inappropriate content - people wouldn't have been able to see it if it hadn't been made available by RUclips
Edit: grammar
@@DavyHulme Exactly, why was Shanes old videos allowed? They were absolutely disgusting and no sane person, even if they had dark humour would say those things
@@liaavv_4959 the simplest answer is probably money - removing popular content would hurt their bottom line.
RUclips does not appear to have thorough policies & procedures for moderating content. If it had robust safeguarding policies regarding content published on the site in the T&Cs (I've not read them recently) it would be like admitting that it has some degree of responsibility for the consequences of enabling content on the platform to be shared... and employing human moderators or developing algorithms to automatically flag questionable content - most of which would probably need reviewing by a person anyway - costs money.
Thankfully i was old enough in 2009 when i first saw 1 vid of shane to be disgusted for life. Never watched any other video from him since. Ur parents sound so nice 👍
UR LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS MAN CHILD GROOMING AND PEOPLE ARE MORE UNCOMFY BY UR GENDER PRESENTATION IM AT MY LIMIT I'VE HAD IT
Eve Diane their gender presentation is beautiful ❤️💜🏳️🌈
I would like to know their pronouns though, especially if they are a binary trans person. Some binary trans people feel misgendered by “they” pronouns.
Miss Adjusted that's fine but I'm pretty sure this person has a video about being non binary
LIT RALLY,,,,, im suing these ppl
so you are equating gender presentation with child grooming?. I just want to clarify if that is what you are saying? I feel that you should be accountable for that stance Eve. Let the court of public opinion have one on your very public stance and all that.
what do you mean? of course RUclips moderates their website....
for LGBT+ content
I was surprised when I found out the word 'gay' needed to be censored. Like I've never realised how 'gay' could be harmful and not family friendly; but asking underaged kids to twerk and 8 year old puppet talking about b*lls and p0rn are totally safe.
"I don't think kids should be punished for the actions of these adult men" was what stook out to me a lot. It's true though. And so many times kids who didn't know any better have been put in the hot seat for something they didn't do. Often it's used against them too and that sticks with someone for possibly their whole life.
I think it’s really smart the constant cutting to your editing screen to further hit home the point of the meticulousness that is involved in making a video, and all the reflection time Shane would’ve had in regards to making his awful content
This! I’m a video editor, it’s my job. Even a video that’s a minute long I can spend a week or more working on, tweaking and cutting literally singular frames out. It’s to the point that I can memorize time stamps to a certain extent. Shane would have had HOURS and HOURS to reflect. How many times I watch a video and after seeing it 30 times go “ya know what let’s change this.” He had all the time to understand.
It really is a stellar layer of extra symbolism. I didn't catch it at first. It's brilliant
You know Shane Dawson has done that in a few of his videos?
PJ Broke But in that context it’s stylized in a way to not make the viewer think “oh that’s his video editing software,” it’s meant to be blended into his content to appear as another shot of footage. But do keep in mind this isn’t a matter of asking Shane to do this type of editing technique, because that’s not what this about. It’s about how LONG it takes to edit a single video, and how much time he would have had to reflect at SOME point. It’s that he would have had many chances to realize “oh shit this is kinda fucked up and wrong” because he would be seeing his footage over and over and over.
You're intelligent, thorough, and eloquent. I respect that so much.
Here here xx 💋
u basically took the words right out of my mouth 😳
And such a soothing voice
Agreed!
You're name is adorable, btw. Very funny
Chloe S aww tysm! ☺️
Imagine that you’re an author, and you write an erotic book. Which is fine and dandy, erotica is all in good fun! You get it published, but then find out that bookstores have been putting it in the children’s section next to Peter Rabbit and what have you. And it’s actually popular with kids. You then have a choice of either writing a sequel and letting it go right on to the children’s section for profit, or doing literally anything else. Shane chose option number one. This isn’t a case of unmonitored children getting into things targeted at adults and adults only, in which case the content creator doesn’t bear any responsibility.
The fact that he was constantly meeting his fans and seeing how young they were and he was a full grown adult. Meeting elementary and middle school fans while you're making sexualized content you know they'll watch... It's just disgusting and unacceptable
That’s exactly it!
just my thought reading your comment. i believe shane dawson has admitted to making videos for pedophiles because it is very lucrative, but in his persona of "saying shocking stuff all the time youll never believe" he can comfortably say this truth while parading it as a joke. this is not that uncommon in hollywood, especially in media involving children and meant to be viewed by children, so i do believe as well that the content he made was very intentional.
@@pikachu7572 let's not forget he kissed a 12 year old fan at a meet and greet
If he really wanted to come back to youtube, he should delete his channel and social media accounts that were built for a decade off of bigotry and the sexualization of children, take a long break from all social media, and come back with 0 followers and subscribers.
imo he would still gain an insane amount of followers again and he don't deserve that
@@alisha6341 agreed, there's definitely no perfect way for him to come back, and tbh I personally don't think he should but if he were to.... i'd want him to have to "start over"(as much as is possible)
I also think he’d need to ACTUALLY address and apologize for everything he did in the past, seeing as his recent apology video really only focused on a couple things that weren’t anywhere near as bad as the other stuff he was doing at the time
Korviday: *Makes informative, compelling video about parasocial relationships and grooming*.
The Comments: "STAG OR DOE, WE MUST KNOW?????"
RUclips commenters are among the dumbest people on the internet.
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Oh no ...
This made me think of those slang terms for bisexual women (stag/doe), which would certainly be an odd query.
"Hey, I can _see_ you, and I already assumed you were female (and specifically bisexual) for some reason, but how do you _express_ your gender?"
CUT TO KNOW
Wait, does that make Korviday a cake?
Any chance we can interest you in reading audiobooks? Your voice is very soothing and I’ve seen your videos multiple times when I want to unwind after a long or difficult shift.
I think they do that on their patreon, not sure tho!
I agree
@@-piras now thats the kind of thing id pay money for
@@ilexdiapason I would too. Their voice is so relaxing.
yes. i want this
I wanted to add that if you push the responsibility of what a child watches onto the parents, children who either don't have parents or have neglectful ones are completely ignored. It basically says that their safety online doesn't matter. Holding the creator or even the platform accountable is much fairer to everyone. Btw I really love your videos and your voice is incredible
While I think that parent should keep an eye on what their kids are doing online, that doesn't mean that they should (or should have to) monitor every minute. There's a difference between teaching your kid how to deal with the online world and just stalking everything they do.
Because if they feel like they can't do anything in private they will stop talking to their parents and find way to watch things anyway.
Also it's kinda weird to think that every parent is either around their kids 24/7 or that kids won't have internet access when their parents aren't around (of course this depends on the age of the kids) because 1. people have to work and not everyone ca be a stay at home parent and 2. a lot of work, school and social interaction is online nowadays.
Also there is definitely a difference between a kid stumbling over something targeted towards adults that they shouldn't see and content literally targeting and grooming kids?
I find that a lot of parents don't really know how to talk to their children or they neglect to. A lot of issues I had growing up would have been easier to navigate if someone would have just talked to me.
I think also people forget that I’m some of these cases, parents might not even see any issue. Parents aren’t magical perfect people, the can’t smell child groomer through the screen, and many parents are uneducated about that stuff as well as the kids. I think the only true red flags that you can count on for parents to catch is sexualised content, racism, and swearing.
When I was a child, my Mother told me that I wasn't allowed to watch MTV. As a result, I became extremely intrigued by this channel and would find ways to access it when my parents weren't around. Telling a child something is taboo most definitely makes said taboo thing very alluring. They can and will find a way to explore it. It is better to have an open line of communication with your children. That being said content creators must assess and reflect on the material they are putting out into this world.
Same about MTV 😂
This point really shows how much responsibility creators have. Like, parents should be able to let their kids roam freely on RUclips because Shane Dawson (and others like him) shouldn’t be making adult content for kids. There’s really no other way to slice it. You can’t sell sex toys to children, why the hell is this allowed?
its so silly when people say its the parents responsibility to make sure your child isn't watching the wrong things. when I was a kid or preeteen id sneak out of my room at night and stream horror shows and stuff like that, almost every day. my mom caught me a couple of times and I wasn't allowed to do this or that for a week anymore but afterwards id continue. and id watch onision for example all the time. just my mom doesn't speak English at all and would have no way of proving it to be harmful content. children today learn English so fast because of the internet. my neighbour is three and I hear him yelling english phrases sometimes
My parents learned English much later in life so they hardly understood what I was watching if it was visually wrong like maybe child inappropriate scenes or nudity but what a person is saying they never understood and especially slangs never became a part of their vocabulary.
I totally see your point. But. As a teacher of younger children, I see so many young kids with unfettered access to the internet, which is just not safe. There’s a huge difference between your kids managing to see a few things they shouldn’t when you didn’t catch them, and just giving them their own tablet with no restrictions or supervision. There’s a huge difference between a kid seeing a few things they shouldn’t and a kid consistently consuming huge amounts of inappropriate content.
To be clear, though, yours and korviday’s point that putting it ALL on the parent, and none on the creator, is ridiculous, is completely, completely accurate. Creators HAVE to actually be responsible about their content.
@@kittusim8520 exactly. My dad is at work most of the time and didn't really spend much time on those kind of things. My mom grew up on a farm in northern germany in the 60s and didn't learn english at all. On top of that they kind of are racists themselves and wouldn't have seen an issue with the blackface if theyd seen it
You’re making fair points and although I’m not entirely disagreeing, I want to say, imo, even though with you (and many other kids) the limitations your parents set up for you and your safety were in vain in that case, they did what they could as parents.
I do think it’s parents’ responsibility to set boundaries and try their best to block harmful content and/or any harmful stuff, even though their power is limited in the end.
If a kid decides to want to start smoking, I’d expect responsible parents to forbid it to their child, not allowing this around them or with anyone else and/or throwing away their bought cigarettes whenever they can. Then they did all they could as parents to raise their kids properly in this example, truly taking care of them to their benefits and whether they’re successful or not at parenting in the end, they succeeded as parents. And I’m saying this as a mother.
But the responsibility definitely also lies on other people as well, I agree on that. Content creators need to think about how their content affects others, especially easily influenced kids/minors. And about youtube, I’ve watched another RUclips video, which also points out RUclips’s responsibility, but getting to the point, that RUclips comfortably rests on the self-claimed “fact”, that it’s just a platform, the responsibility about the content relies with creators, not with RUclips. They only set out “the rules” (for lack of a better word, forgot what it’s called... “guidelines”, maybe? 🤔 ), without any help or suggestions to the creators, otherwise they’d not be “only a platform”.
Quite irresponsible, for my taste. But what can you do.. 🤷🏼♀️
watching you dunk on people invading on your ~gender identity and expression~ was the karmic justice i needed from 2020
Your gender is cute.
@GozerTheTraveller No need to credit me, I wholeheartedly support this.
I got an ipod when I was in fourth grade - a gift for doing my communion/confirmation at our polish church. From then on I'd sneak around and watch youtube throughout the night to be able to relate to my other friends who's parents would let them use their phones etc whenever they wanted. I mindlessly watched a LOT of Shane's videos - the era when he would make spoofs, parodies and videos about like the latest internet news as well as his vlogs... now I look back and??? Find how absolutely insane it was that I was groomed into thinking such language, behavior and actions were normal...
I was definitely more tech savvy than my parents and have recently felt very guilty about basically letting myself be spoon fed and even enjoying the content back then - and I'd say like the constant idea that RUclips was an impermanent thing that would disappear one day made it so that youtubers like shane at the time, over the years, could sort of wave away taking accountability... it's easier to ignore the idea that you've affected so many people's lives than to ever face it.
nata you shouldn’t feel guilty about being effectively groomed. You were a kid, it’s not your fault.
On a side note: PEWDIEPIE. He is also one who has never really taken responsibility for his power and it's reverberations. By not coming out and telling his fans some cast iron rules, values and things to be careful of, he implicitly fosters harassment and alt-right rabbit hole stuff. Halfhearted apology videos are not enough when you've been specifically mentioned in the journals of mass shooters...
I'm so happy to see another sane human who hasn't forgotten the terrible things he's done and the responsibility he's never taken. He also had the nerve to comment on Jenna Marbles and Shane as if his opinion should be respected on theses situations.
Alicia What has he done? I’m not up to date 😫
Diddy Kong the n word, paying people who didn’t speak English to have a sign that says “kill all Jews”, platforming neo nazis, etc
@@Aster_Risk He plays the "I'm a silly gamer I'm just joking" card which was maybe valid once, but not after you become the poster boy for RUclips. He may not want that responsibility but he has it, and by not explicitly making the point that fans of his would not engage in racist, homophobic etc etc etc material, he implicitly endorses and fosters it. Edgy humour is fine but PDP and many of his fans are emblematic of edgy humour without a moral underpinning... Just propagating the same stereotypes and fostering the same hate. A place where normies and out right extremists can mingle and joke superfluously.
sane people are the minority judging by view and sub counts lol
@@adalynteutla9271 In addition to what someone else said, he has also directly shouted out a channel to his massive young teen audience that was run by a self proclaimed nazi who includes pro-nazi jokes/sentiments in each and every video, and then claimed he had no way of knowing the channel was run by a nazi and just thought it was "funny memes" and he claimed had only watched a few minutes of one video before deciding to shout out the channel. Which, uh, when one has millions of subs, one should do a bit more research before shouting out just anyone.
He also announced publicly he would donate to a jewish charity, then backed out on it immediately when his very racist fanbase threw a fit. And in the video he made rescinding his donation, he wore a sweater with an iron cross on the collar (a very popular symbol with neonazis). So you know, real bad optics there.
when i was a kid i watched rated R movies. the internet is slightly different because creators have more interaction with fanbases.
i agree. he was sitting on video chats with his fans and was asking them to show body parts and talking about his dick on camera. can you imagine what he did while he wasn’t recording himself
Exactly, R rated movies arent made to cater to the childs eye, but shanes content was. Big big difference
I think that's part of it, but there's also the fact that movies a kid watches are more easily...like, supervised?
When I was a kid, I also watched a lot of R rated movies, but what I'd watch was all curated by my dad, who would watch most of these with me. I really loved stuff like the Matrix movies and various kinda big blockbuster R-rated action films, like I think the first Terminator film is rated R? But I remember once, I asked my dad if we could watch Clockwork Orange, and this was the only time I can recall that he ever vetoed something for me (after watching it as an adult, I understand why lmao!)
But idk, I was a pretty weird kid lol, and RUclips is imo way more difficult as a medium for a kid's parents to participate in the watching and curation of than a weekly movie night, so... 🤷🏻♀️
they/them or he/him are fine btw 💕
ps: i'm wearing a tank top it's just beige
PART 1: ruclips.net/video/Oes59qHzwoA/видео.html
RESOURCES FOR THOSE FACING DOMESTIC/SEXUAL ABUSE, SEXUAL VIOLENCE, GROOMING, AND MORE
AUSTRALIA
-Sexual Abuse & Assault Hotlines masterlist: www.healthdirect.gov.au/sexual-assault-and-abuse-helplines
-Or call 1800-RESPECT (1800-737-732) for confidential information, counselling, and advice.
-Reachout.com list of resources: au.reachout.com/articles/sexual-assault-support
BRAZIL
-ICMEC LAC: Focused on Latin America & the Carribean, promotes the creation of a regional coalition against child pornography, an alliance between the financial and technology industries and the public sector, including law enforcement and NGOs: www.icmec.org/icmec-lac/
-"In Brazil, ‘AI Gloria’ Will Help Women Victims of Domestic Violence": riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/in-brazil-i-am-gloria-will-help-women-victims-of-domestic-violence/
CANADA
-Canadian Resource Centre for Victims of Crime: crcvc.ca/links
-Ontario's "Let's stop sexual harrassment and violence": www.ontario.ca/page/lets-stop-sexual-harassment-and-violence
-Ontario's Assaulted Women's Hotline (call 1-866-863-0511)
-LoveisRespect (call 1-866-331-9474)
FINLAND
-Women’s Line (call +358-800-02400)
-Terrafem: women's support group. Staff speak 50 languages. It costs nothing to call; you can also leave your name and telephone number and Terrafem will call you back. Call 020-52-10-10, Weekdays between 8AM and 5PM)
GERMANY
-National Women’s Helpline (call 08000-116-016)
IRELAND
-National Freephone Helpline (call 1800-341-900)
RUSSIA
-ANNA (National Center for the Prevention of Violence) (call 08800-700-600)
SWEDEN
-Kvinnofridslinjen: Sweden’s National Women’s Helpline, support to those experiencing violence or threats. Open 24/7, call is free of charge, does not show on the phone bill, anonymity and confidentiality, access to interpreter (call 020-50-50-50)
-Terrafem (call 020-52-1010)
USA
-RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network): www.rainn.org/ (call 1-800-656-HOPE)
-National Domestic Violence Hotline (call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or 1-800-787-3224)
-Planned Parenthood (call 1-800-230-7526)
-National Child Abuse Hotline (call 1-800-422-4453)
-For violence against women, with a focus on hispanic women in crisis: www.luzmariafoundation.org/
UK
-ENGLAND: National Domestic Violence Free phone Helpline/Rape Crisis Helpline (call 0808-2000-2470808-802-999)
-NORTHERN IRELAND: 24 Hour Domestic and Sexual Violence Helpline (call 0800-917-14-14)
-SCOTLAND: Scottish Domestic Abuse HelplineRape Crisis Scotland Helpline (call 0800-027-1234080-88-01-03-020808-8010-302)
-WALES: Live Fear Free HelplineRape Crisis Helpline (call 0800-8010-8000808-802-9999)
-Mind.org's resource list: www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/abuse/sexual-abuse/
-BBC's resource list: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/22VVM5LPrf3pjYdKqctmMXn/information-and-support
-NSPCC: provides help, advice and support to adults worried about a child. Online resoures for child grooming: www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/grooming/ (or call 0808-800-5000, 24/7)
-PACEL Parents Against Child Sexual Exploitation): (parents, call 0113 240 5226)
-Stop it Now!: Confidential freephone helpline for people struggling with sexual thoughts and behaviours towards children. (call 0808-1000-900 Mon to Thurs: 9am to 9pm; Fri: 9am to 7pm)
INTERNATIONAL
-European Hotline Directory: ec.europa.eu/justice/saynostopvaw/helpline.html
-Latin American anti-violence against women apps listed in this article: www.dw.com/en/in-latin-america-women-turn-to-apps-to-combat-sexual-violence/a-50664628
-Gift From Within - An International Charity for Survivors of Trauma and Victimization
-Grief Companion (features writings from a variety of classic and contemporary writers that grieving people have found helpful and comforting)
-International Bureau for Childrens Rights
-International Critical Incident Stress Foundations, Inc.
-The International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies
-WiredSafety (International internet safety, help and education organization)
-YOU WILL BE CAUGHT (web site to end child sex slavery. People can submit an online tip to get offenders arrested, prosecuted and incarcerated for sexually exploiting children abroad. This web site can be viewed in eight languages.)
-International Centre for the Prevention of Crime
-DomesticShelters.org has a comprehensive list here: www.domesticshelters.org/resources/national-global-organizations
For my *Czech* folks - these should work across the country, in every district.
General hotline for children and students up to 25: 116 111
Domestic abuse and crime victim hotline:
116 006
Rape, domestic abuse and sexual trauma hotline:
737 834 345 or 545 245 996
what you said about the complete lack of accountability and the resulting focus on commentary as a search for justice resonated so hard. that’s a lens you could look through to analyze so many things that are going on in the world.
also, thanks for the ending. you dunked hard on nb-phobes and the song is a total bop 😊
i really enjoy your personality, voice, and content!! the way you analyze and talk about the topics you cover is really interesting to me. you peel off the top layer of things and most of your videos are very thought provoking for me and make me see things in ways i didnt see them before. keep up the great work!!
Absolutely loved that ending! As a trans girl I adore having the audacity to fully embrace that your gender is no body’s business but yours 💜
Pretty sure anyone you'd be dating would have the right to know though.
I'm pretty sure she was talking about the audience not who they will personally date in the future.
@@Palidor not relevant at all lmao
Palidor that’s not relevant you jerk
@@Palidor I strongly disagree. This woman has the right to withhold that information until she is comfortable, because it truly is no one else's business. As a trans man, the harsh reality of being trans is this: if I go on a first date with someone and reveal that I am trans, the most common result is confusion or discomfort, both for myself and the other party involved. The worst case, which is more common than we want to admit, is assault, harassment, bigoted phobia, and much more gruesome realities. Yes, we do sometimes face acceptance, but that is rare. And who is to say that we out ourselves on a first date, the date does not work out, and then we are back to square one with a new potential partner and another instance of trying to judge if it is safe or not to come out. This is why trans people have the right to not blatantly tell the people they date this fact immediately. There is no real perfect time to tell someone you're trans, because at any stage, you are the target for harassment. We are not in a society where we are safe. Our gender has no baring on who we are around, whether that be romantic dating partners or otherwise. We do not have to sacrifice our comfort and safety to tell others what our gender is.
Korviday: makes video unrelated to gender or trans topics
New viewers (without doing any research or watching ant videos pertaining to the topic of their gender): WHAT IS IN THE PANTS
I NEED to know what's in your pants so I can stereotype you properly smh
Or even, like, looking at their about.
And the cis say OTHER people are perverted. 🤦♀️
I just wanted to know their pronouns. 🤷🏻♀️
It just dawned on me. A creator can’t be really *fired* from RUclips, huh?..
Alex Jones kinda was.
I guess the closest thing would be if RUclips outright ban you completely, refuse to unban you if you dispute it, and you don’t use loopholes to try to circumvent them banning you.
@@mischr13 and also do5, but he's trying to make a come back from what I've heard
I’m interested in the way you edited this video. The constant cutting to the editing screen is like this subtle nod to the fact that you’re refining and reviewing your own words that you’ll eventually be putting out to the world....also the song at the end is great
Hey. I found you through the Shane video and proceeded to watch a ton of your content (Commercially Viable is constantly in my head now) but I wanted to ask real quick so that when recommending your vids to people I get it right: what pronouns do you prefer/use? I have been using they/them to refer to you but I'm more than willing to adjust if you'd rather use another pronoun :)
(Also I really love your takes on accountability and responsibility regarding what content you put out when you're a creator. I've been struggling (I write) to make my characters less problematic with their flaws because lots of their character traits are all well and good...but the implications caused by the traits mingling aren't great (ex. a s*xual abuse survivor is a gogo dancer by night and some of her mannerisms are sort of problematic, etc.) I'm trying to be realistic without being harmful and it's a tricky balance. And bc it's tricky it's also hard to describe why I'm struggling to do so.)
they/them is fine :)
Sorry, you probably meant the latter half to be aimed at korviday, but I just wanted to say that there are places where it's totally fine to have characters with problematic flaws? Especially if you're not trying to market it towards kids and intend to treat the situation with care, which would provide it context and impact on the story. There are also people who write much more problematic things as catharsis or processing emotions/traumas, and fiction is good for that BECAUSE it's as safe a place as it can be for such things. What's most important I think is tagging and placing it properly, or if that's not possible, ensuring to the best of your ability children too young to understand nuances do not access it.
Part of the reason why the "it's wholly the parents' responsibility to watch what their kids do online" angle really bothers me is because I had abusive neglectful parents who didn't give a damn what I did most days -- so even if it *was* feasible for parents to totally shield their kids from harmful content, where would the protection from people like Shane Dawson have been for kids like me?
I've been obsessed with "creator responsibility" since Twilight Saga and finding out about the suicidal scene. As a writer and artist, it's important to me how my work is going to affect others. And I wholeheartedly agree that the creators are responsible.
Shane can't get away with it.
Btw, I followed bc your Shrek and Gender vids, lol.
Are you talking about the scene in New Moon where Bella cliff dives without anyone around? And the misinterpretation of Alice's vision due to werewolf shenanigans?
Or am I forgetting? Its been 10 years since I read New Moon lol
@@kraziiXIII There's a scene where she drives a motorcycle off a cliff after the guy riding with her jumped off. It's been a while since I watched it.
Finn Swan Bella never drives a motorcycle off a cliff in the books or the movies. In New Moon, she goes cliff diving for the adrenaline (because it allows her to remember Edward via hallucinations), but she miscalculates the risk and Jacob has to rescue her from the turbulent waters. Alice can’t see Jacob, because he’s a werewolf, so she only sees Bella jumping off a cliff, and she assumes that Bella was committing suicide.
However, suicide is still present - when Edward finds out about Alice’s vision and believes that Bella committed suicide, he goes to Volterra to get the Volturi to kill him.
You're an important voice on the platform korviday. I've been following for a few months and I like your direct (even candid) dialogue and your experimental presentation (recording your editing software playback was pretty fucking clever).
Thanks for being an ambassador to those of us outside of your experiences and please please keep it up.
On top of what others have said about your scriptwriting ability and excellent presentation, the diversity of shots (showing editing, OBS, etc) looks great and works well. You've presented an incredibly important topic in an interesting way, and you deserve the attention. Great job.
No dislikes right now. Perfect.
Over 200 likes still no Dislikes hehe
WHO WAS THE ASSHOLE?!?
About the ending - I too went and looked up your pronouns but they weren't hard to find lol
I mean who knows, you might be NB, or you might be mid transition or just very androgynous cis, I didn't want to address you wrong when telling someone about your video
(For everyone around here too lazy too look it up, they're a Nonbinary Guy using either he or they pronouns)
Uuuummmm nobody asked. That has nothing to do with what the video is about
@@rachelquinn3923 uuuuuumm yes, I'm responding directly to the video. "About the Ending." At 17:44. (The song is great btw)
I wanted to make sure I got their pronouns right, so I checked their about. Lo and behold, there were their pronouns. These people are just lazy, both intellectually and physically.
You're doing God's work. Ty for the info.
In my opinion, Shane Dawson needs to make a proper apology. He needs to acknowledge all the accusations and admit to them. Then he needs to explain that he knows what he did was wrong (without excuses) and apologise sincerely. Then I'd suggest he donates a sum of money to a charity that works to fight child abuse. Then I think he should retire and stop earning money from his content.
If you think this is harsh, take into consideration how rich Shane is. He could definitely live comfortably for the rest of his life without income from his content, even if he did donate a lot of money.
Not about Shane Dawson but I’ve been very uncomfortable calling out other youtubers because I’ve been attacked by their stans. At one point I criticized Contrapoints for her behavior in the past and I was attacked all the while being told that “they weren’t trying to speak over me” or telling me how sad it was that she was drinking as if it was my fault because I left a comment. She never even tried to reign in her fans once. It left a bad taste in my mouth.
It was a mess but I think to many viewers, they see creators as friends or at least people they can trust. And when they feel like anyone is attacking someone they trust they lash out even though they don’t know the person. On top of that some people pledge money to these guys so they feel a connection to them that way.
Honestly I think this culture is toxic and I can’t act like I haven’t been like this at one point bc I was, but over the years I had to disassociate myself from content creators. They’re there to entertain me, that’s it. They’re not my friends, they’re not anyone I can trust, they’re just people in front of a camera. Once you start doing that it’s pretty easy to unsubscribe pull your patreon money and move on with your life.
I think Shane’s fans felt a connection to him and kind of romanticized a story of an edgelord becoming a sensitive boi. It was hard for me before to criticize him because his fanbase would literally attack people up until a few months ago when people were finally open to criticism. I’m rambling but I really do hate internet culture. Like the creator but when they mess up you have to hold them accountable not defend their honor because you like a few videos.
I'm a Contrapoints fan, but I agree that some fans have become overprotective of her. I've seen people constructively criticize her content in good faith and they'd be accused of trying to cancel her, and then they'd be harassed and canceled (ironic). It's not the responsibility of the creator about how their fans act. But from an optics point of view, the negative behavior of fans gives the creator a bad reputation. If you're being harassed by fans of someone, it's going to affect how you view that creator, even if it doesn't logically make sense to judge a creator based on that. That's just how the human brain works I guess.
@@tobithetabby6376 ironic that people cancel her critics when one of her longest videos was about why cancelling is most often a bad thing to do, and that her whole channel is about understanding the other side before passing judgement. youd think her fans would take those messages to heart more lol
I watched him growing up and him treating kids the way he did only normalized the behavior for me. Adults would ask me super inappropriate questions and have super inappropriate conversations with me. I never thought anything of it. Now I'm an adult and I'm just disgusted how I was treated by grown ass men.
I hear a lot of "well it's the parents' fault for not stepping in" around discourse of child grooming via fictional child porn, and I can't help but think that its a way of deflecting any guilt so they don't have to consider that they're complicit in normalising pedophilia
Totally unrelated but I really love your eyes
omfg yessss
I was just gonna comment this
There were some youtubers (Alex Day, Tom Milsom etc...) that we’re held accountable and left the platform back in maybe 2012 or so? So, there already is precedence for people who have harmed children and misused their parasocial power dynamic to be held accountable and deplatformed. Shane should follow suit. (Great videos!! Love your style)
Idk about Tom Milsom but at least Alex Day didn't really leave the platform. He continued making videos on another channel and at some point returned to his old one too if I remember correctly. He even had a patreon and tried to profit off of the allegations by writing a book about his experience in 2018.
Mika hmmm!! That’s really interesting, thanks for pointing that out. I had taken a long break from even watching RUclips till like a year ago, sometime after all this had happened, so I must have missed that “comeback” honestly!
Alex Day didn't leave but he lost a lot of fans and his platform never got back to where it was. And Alex Carpenter was just never heard of again.
@@shamidkpzd Yeah, he never got back to where he was, but still somehow managed to get enough people to support him to continue making videos. Kind of reminds me of onision, who everyone hates but still somehow he has more than enough fans willing to pay for his bullshit 🤦
ah i remember this. their friend ed plant as well. i didn’t know alex day came back :/ bleh
love how your eyebrows match your eyes fashion icon
Dude your takes are soo good and thoughtful, I agree with all the words you said in this video and I love every single video you've ever made (that I've watched after seeing your last video and the shrek one)... Keep being the awesome creator you are, striving to make good and meaningful content while being aware of what you are putting out... There is no need for perfectionism tho, even if striving for it can be a good source of improvement :p kinda like an horizon, where you walk towards it and you are closer to it but also at the same distance
Omg I just now saw the ending wtf
Big thumbs down to the people more concerned about what they should label you as rather than what they thought about parasocial relationships with Shane Dawson and how you explained them. People get hung up on the weirdest things. That's probably the least relevant thing in your video. I'm glad you're staying strong in the stance that those are ridiculous questions and "unease"
Re: "parents should pay attention," I feel like another thing about that rhetoric is that it decentralizes the responsibility, like RUclips or Shane Dawson himself could moderate the content that kids are seeing and that would be one central figure in charge of the moderation, whereas there's no way of knowing whether every single parent is going to pay attention. There are a lot of parents who don't really care about their kids, and there are a lot of parents who probably do care but just don't have the time/energy/ability to moderate their kids' content consumption. But RUclips does have the resources to hire more moderators and structure their site in a way that's better for kids, and if they do that then there's no need to place responsibility on millions of individuals as opposed to one centralized figure.
In his recent video (idk how old it is, I found about it from Mörges video) the video where Shane "adopts" a boy. They say to the boy" have u been bad?" U know how it is normal to ask that on Christmas, what a santa would say that have u been bad or nice. And Shane says "EW stop" why is a dirty thing the FIRST thing that comes to his mind even though it's a child. He also gave the boy his book where he says that he is offended that he was not *m*lested as a child cuz he was pretty".. just putting this out there
As a parent of children that just got their own iPhones, I find your content SO refreshing. You are 100% correct that it’s near impossible to monitor children 24/7/365. Thankfully, I have an open dialogue with my children about what they watch, especially as a former criminal defense attorney that has seen exactly how adults abuse video games and social media to prey upon the young. I think one thing to take into account, however, is the constitutional aspect of free speech and how social media platforms have been granted immunity from lawsuits for content as mere “platforms” for others. I hate how that has been turned inside out to allow predators and others with hateful views to speak to such a wide audience. Hopefully with the election in November, we’ll see some legislation that holds platforms accountable for their content. In the meantime, I am BEYOND grateful for people like you who monitor and police these platforms for inappropriate content. I love you so much for that, even if I just discovered your videos. 🙏🏻💞 Keep up the amazing work, you are a treasure!
You are so refreshing!
No "tea", just pure intelligence and eloquence. The way you have communicated this has really resignation with me. I really enjoy listening to your points, thank you!
Korivday : Hey the so called King of RUclips literally opened up children to be groomed (I hope that makes sense)
Audience: ok that's great and all but are you a boy or a girl
I feel a lot of your criticism applies to Pewdiepie as well. He started out by making content that appealed to mostly children (which was already questionable then) and switched to making “edgier” content basically overnight? I’m not one to say that the internet should be completely sanitized, there is a space for content aimed at adults, but that shift has always been questionable to me and I rarely hear that mentioned.
lets get him next. he’s a big baby who doesn’t care about the fact this his fans are either kids or alt-righters. If he were to actually apologise (and not just go “I’m sorry you were offended”) for all the racist shit he’s done he’d lose his entire alt right audience, and he doesn’t want to do that. He’s so irresponsible. I know people who’s gone down the pewdiepipeline and through him been introduced to really nasty content creators, aka actual nazis.
I don’t get how tbh. He might have an edgier side but he is not harmful? I’d love examples tho but I still watch him and find him quite lovely.
Fds crl He has toned down his content ever since the multiple controversies he’s has but as far as I know he still uses ableist slurs. I stopped watching him since 2016 but I have a younger sibling who is a minor that kept watching him. I noticed he picked up some behaviors from watching him, like defending the use of racial slurs and calling women “thots”. He just thought they were okay things to say because he heard them from Felix and other people defended him.
Logan G hm okay I get that tbh, I’m 21 and have watched him since I was 14 and fortunately I didn’t pick anything from him but I can 100% see people picking up the “thots” etc stuff. I’ve found myself rolling my eyes by his overuse of the word simp. I don’t find him very problematic tbh but yeah... I don’t think kids should watch him
Fds crl I mention him in particular because he is just bad at taking accountability for his actions. When he paid those guys to hold that sign was a complete non apology. He framed all the criticism as “the media” having some kind of vendetta against RUclipsrs and now his fans (probably mostly younger fans) just use that excuse to counter even the mildest criticism. His attempts to address the bigoted people in his audience have been weak at best.
The last part felt like I was being hypnotised and I like it.
Jeez, if you’re unsure of someone’s gender just use they/them and wait to be corrected if that’s the wrong pronouns. In a situations where someone’s gender is RELEVANT, it’s ofc okay to ask respectfully. But saying someone’s gender expression makes you uneasy on a video about someone pretty much grooming kids is just so sad.
Taking accountability is important - if I make a mistake then I need to genuinely apologise for it, improve my behaviour and not do it again.
What I shouldn't do is keep making the same mistake again and again, offer a generic non genuine apology, and continue with my harmful behaviour.
Re: your gender presentation:
Plus, Like you said, why are people more focused on how you present your gender than the actual subject of your video?
as well as this, there's often multiple factors to blame in situations like these. Most of it should go on the creator of course, but it's not a black and white - it's not one person's fault or the other, it can always be both. I really agreed with your video, thank you
I agree, ultimately the creator is responsible for their content, however, creators can only reach their large audiences easily with the continued willingness of platforms like RUclips.
Imo content sharing platforms should also be held accountable when they fail to implement robust moderation protocols & procedures that prevent creators distributing inappropriate material, particularly if they fail repeatedly. But we know why they either don't have such policies, or don't implement them, & why they're unlikely to pull popular content regardless of how inappropriate it it is - $£€¥£€$
You shouldn’t be able to have content targeting children without there being some kind of governing body evaluating it. Verify creators appropriate for children. RUclips videos don’t have ratings, parents put there kids in front of ‘kid friendly’ channels... it’s a false sense of security.
I found you after the Shane video. I’m so glad I did. You are very interesting as a person. Colour me intrigued ❤️
Laura M I disagree. When Shane was making the ped0philic content, he knew (and has stated) that his audience at the time was primarily children. I agree with you that parents should have monitored what their kids watch but to say that Shane didn’t make content knowing it was mostly children who’d be watching it wrong.
Laura M he didn’t have to say it. You don’t necessarily “choose” your audience but he knew from analytics that his audience was mostly young kids, and also every live appearance he made, and the fans videos he was sent wearing his merch, and all the young Omegle fans he interacted with. I don’t enjoy those videos as an adult, or that humor. You can make the argument that he didn’t do it on purpose but he KNEW the age range of his audience and it has been established multiple times through his own words and actions. Also, he has such a massive online library that asking someone to dig one example up to show you is ridiculous. Plenty of other people have made videos with examples, find one yourself.
@@LadyoftheFlwrs If you haven't watched D' Angelo's video on Shane Dawson, I highly recommend that you do but I'll link the part where you're asking when Shane admits he knows his audience is mostly young (he gives multiple examples but this is the one that sticks out the most to me).
ruclips.net/video/x2WBythSGoQ/видео.html
As he states verbatim in a 2015 podcast, "As a RUclipsr, the only pussy that's thrown my way is 12"
Also, you'd never see Walking Dead tell a 12 year old to twerk and send sexy pictures to the creator. I really don't think it's fair to compare the two. It seems like you're excusing Shane's content? Even IF it was made for adults, he has had young children on his channel do sexually explicit things and other horrifying stuff. It's inexcusable either way.
Laura M also if he was making content for adults, why did it feature little kids so much? Most adults are not interested in an R rated puppet show about a little girl. And once he established that his contact was attracting kids and adults weren’t interested (btw, 15-16 y/os shouldn’t have been watching that content either and are just as vulnerable to grooming), the burden of responsibility should have fallen to him to not put out content that literally glorified pedophilia and bestiality/featured graphic sexual content. Kids love markiplier too but the worst you get from him is pg-13 language and suggestive scenes. Shane knew he had preteens drooling all over him, and I’m sure at the time they really loved hearing him talk about sex with minors. Most adults find that pretty repulsive.
@@LadyoftheFlwrs we live in a different world than when grooming was initially defined. Shane reached thousands of girls and subsequently DID have inappropriate contact with them on several occasions (swapping gum, inappropriate comments about their photos, asking them to twerk). No one wants him to kill himself, we want him to stop having a platform that allows him to reach young people and out out harmful content. We want accountability and admission to the harm he caused on a whole generation of young viewers. We want to set an example so that it doesn't happen again.
I think a child watching Shane's old content on the internet is worse then a child watching South Park on TV. Both are inappropriate for children but with TV at least there is this barrier between show and viewer, while RUclips videos are much more personal and intimate. A kid watching South Park doesn't form a strong connection to Cartman, but a kid watching Shane Dawson can form a strong connection to Shane Dawson. It feels more real and so the child takes what Shane says more seriously, not as jokes or satire. That is dangerous.
You have such a wonderful soothing voice, please god i could just listen to the end of this vid forever.
I started watching Shane Dawson when I was four. Four years old, watching inappropriate and racist jokes everyday. I’m not going to sit here and claim that I don’t have a hard time making friends now, because I do. Shane Dawson and dozens of others youtubers like him wrecked my life.
But now that you have grown up, it's your responsability to be better and educate yourself, leave all that behind. These youtubers need to be punished, and we have to be more than their victims. I started watching when I was 11 and even then I didn't understand why it was so wrong, now I've changed and it's all behind. I still feel guilty, but i know I'm better
Love your videos, korviday. You've taught me a lot and I dig your vibe. Thanks for making these.
I really like your vids and your takes on all this situation, I'm really glad that you're putting it out there and that you're getting your point across. Only thing I'd like to add to this situation, as someone who's studying to be a teacher and learned about the impact of the Internet on children (and how it reflects on real life), I think it's both things at the same time. Parents should be more careful of what kids see on the internet, because there is mature content here made for adults that children shouldn't be seeing (that isn't necessarily Bad, but sill), but they shouldn't be completely cut off from the internet. That'd be unfair to them. There is a lot that kids can learn on the internet, but it's important to do so safely. Still, creators like Shane Dawson and other pr*dators should be deplataformed, because they are making sick content Targetted to kids that directly affects kids negatively. In this case, they are totally responsible for the effects it had on these children and should be held accountable.
"It's the parents' job to stop online grooming"
Okay that comes from a privileged point of view. It's like you said. Not everyone has parents. Not everyone has parents who pay attention. Who can afford to pay attention to everything their child consumes because they work to provide food/shelter or whatever. Not everyone has parents who treat their kids well and act in the child's best interest.
Furthermore, this encourages authoritarian parenting by just simply taking away devices or constantly invading the child's privacy. This has been shown to have many detrimental effects on the parent-child bond and the child's mental health later in life.
Parents should take a role if they can and open lines of communication but it shouldn't be on them.
I am weary of moderation in general, but I do think that youtube should at least moderate content that's advertised towards children. The thing is that automated systems would likely be innefficient in sorting through the various subtle and complicated ways some content is unsuitable for children, but with the volume of videos uplouded every single day I don't think youtube would be willing to hire real people for the job, even if they subcontract them. It would also make it so there's less advertising-friendly videos for children and less money for the platform. That is depressing. Really liked the ending song though
As a teacher, it drives me mad seeing damaging individuals continually producing content which harms children with no repercussions. Even adults are impressionable so the influence on children and young people is obvious and tangible. I see children repeat what they watch online every day.
my mom actually disabled javascript because she thought the things i was watching, including shane dawson, was innapropriate for 9 year old me. she was right, and i wish my child brain would've realized that, but to me she was just being overdramatic and mean. "shane dawson was cool. why couldn't she see that???"
so, you know what i did? went over to my friend's house and watched his videos with her. because of him i knew what a porn star was by the time i was 10. i thought saying the n word was "cool" and "grown-up." and i, an autistic person, became normalized to the word retard at such a young age i didn't even realize it was a slur being used against me by my own classmates.
now that i'm a decade older i finally realize how and why my mom was trying to protect me. and she really did try her best. but in the end it wasn't her fault that i was continuously exposed to his videos, it was his.
Your voice...your accent... It’s like ASMR so relaxing, I’m subscribed. 🤣
It was that good so I tried to share it every where lol. Good Job Korvi.
I'm so excited that you, one of my fave smol beans, is gaining a bigger platform. You deserve it! I love your work and your impact on the world is just fantastic
korviday really said "lets talk about this pressing issue and let me feed you a certified queer bop." an icon
I really enjoy your style of editing! And, unrelated, you look so incredibly good and I could listen to you talk for hours
this is such a great video holy cow, u literally managed to put into words what i think all of us kind of felt about this.
ps: what program do u use to edit your videos? i absolutely adore how u always go one step forward and just... make the video feel different from the rest.
have you deleted a video where you talk about your gender identity? I don't know if I'm imagining things or if the video I'm searching for is literally not up on your channel anymore... Either way that was the first video I saw from you and it comforted me and made me feel content and confident about who I am in a long loooong time. Was about to watch it again, to give myself a pep talk but I apparently can't find it anymore :(
You definetely deserve all the attentions you've been getting. When I subscribed to you a while ago, I was really sad to see you didn't have as many views ad the quality of your videos deserve. But I'm so happy to see it now. You deserve a lot of success, love and recognition for all the work and thoughtfulness you put into your videos. Much love from Argentina. PS: you look really beautiful in those glasses
“Look at me using parasocial relationships to dunk on you” so good. I don’t know if it matters to you, but I tend to use they if a persons gender bends any social lines, which means I use they in regards to myself even though I’m biologically and present feminine. I use they in regards to straight men and women who I know personally, and I’ve been questioning myself on using a non descriptive term of gender when on platforms that aren’t personal in my real life towards or in regards to people’s Appearance. Is it bothersome? Am I treading too lightly or too harshly on other people based off my own experience and ideas with gender? I’m sorry for kinda high jacking this comment into my own thoughts but if anyone has any personal input they feel comfortable sharing especially being referred to as “they” or “them” when it doesn’t linguistically require it and they feel comfortable and representive of one side of the gender spectrum? Is it jarring or comfortable? Does intent to lay an open groundwork for them to make their own gender whatever it needs to be for the other person matter even if someone is very masculine or feminine? I’m more opening this towards the audience as well, but I think it would be interesting if anyone is comfortable sharing their own experiences or conflicting viewpoints (in a rational conversation please be a nice human if anyone decides to actually write back to each other, creators, and myself). *your gender expression and everything else is yours to share just ignore this if sharing it with a complete stranger would violate your own personal interests
Your voice is so soothing- honestly if you read the bee movie script I'd listen to it
Hey! I'm not as eloquent and amazing with words as you are, but I just wanted to drop a comment here to both bump this video in RUclips's algorithm (more people need to see this) and to tell you that I absolutley love the way you express yourself in these videos. You're direct and you don't mince words.
Keep being a really good creator, we need those in these trying times.
you're amazing, and while this is only the second video of yours i've seen, but from the second i saw you, i just assumed you were enby, but even if you weren't, i didn't really care anyway. what person in their right mind would even ask that question in the first place? it's an extremely dehumanizing thing to ask of a person.
keep up the awesome content. glad i subbed
Can you please do a series called "the ethics of content creation?" Because all your videos are so amazing! and I would watch the shit outta that
I love your voice and cadence. Really adds to the rewatch factor. Information and presentation, love it.
I feel like a lot of the people preaching "it's the parent's fault for not moderating what the kids were watching" probably *didn't* have their parents watching their online use. Where is the line? When does "I'm making sure you aren't watching anything dangerous" become just an invasion of privacy? My dad had a software that let him, at any time, pull up my screen on his own computer and watch my keystrokes. My mom trusted me to use the internet responsibly but also worked a lot, but she would regularly ask me if there were any "funny videos" I could show her so she could gauge the type of content I was watching. I still watched shit she didn't know about. Now, they got lucky. I was what most adults would call a "good kid" and my mom's lax rules were perfectly fine for me, and the aggressive tactic my dad had only built distrust and resentment. I don't know what the right answer is, I don't know if there is one, especially with how quickly the internet evolves. But, there is no way for a parent to be everywhere, and from personal experience, they shouldn't be.
Your videos always feel so validating for me 😭 I suggested content creators are more responsible for shit than they are currently held to some ppl and I've gotten pushback for that lol. You argue the reasoning behind this idea so well.
Parents aren't all knowing begings. I was raised by my grandma with no internet literacy and a narrow idea of grooming and child predators. I was warned about child predators but I didn't realise that a youtube funny man in his 20s could do something wrong and desensitize children to sex. My nan didn't have that conversation with me because she didn't know she had to as somebody that had previously raised kids before the internet was a thing. Groomers are the only ones responsible for what they do.
I love your vocals in the song at the end. They reminded me of Morrissey, but like, if he had a good personality and cared about other humans as much as he claims to care about animals.
I'm new to this channel and I really like how eloquent and direct this is, I'm seeing a lot of comments about korviday's gender/sex which is nobody's business but I was wondering if anyone knows what pronouns korviday uses? Just so I can comment respectfully :)
hehim or they them:)
@@korviday thank you for letting me know! I hope I didn't offend - and loving the bids btw, just subbed!
Oooh and the song shutting down the invasive weirdos at the end. Yesssss 💜 you go Korviday! 🎶🎶
He straight up needs to be charged, have to sit in a court, and have a judge determine what happens to him. He has made an impact on thousands if not millions of children. This situation BELONGS in a court of law. Due to all of the ILLEGAL activity that has gone on through out the years. Period.
Love your content! And also your music! Do you happen to have a soundcloud or anything like that?
Where can I listen to the song in the beginning? It’s actually a vibe
tis a slow version of this lol ruclips.net/video/mM1iMBroN0M/видео.html
On a total side note: you have one of the most relaxing and eloquent voices I have ever heard. I could literally listen to you for HOURS, UGH-
whhaaaat do you use to make your music? I LOVE those noises.
Also, excellent video as ever. Your voice is so very soothing even when talking about the grossest of subjects
i use a korg volca, albeton, synth plugins and my voice :)
your voice is so nice to listen to
Wow I didn’t know you made music too, are most of it baked into videos? Would love to listen to the songs alone.. That aside, I found your channel through the 400k one, and really appreciate your view and hard hard work. The perspective of him quitting RUclips as more of a consequence/ way of accountability than a punishment really hit the nail
Im glad to see a sane youtuber.
I do watch some american liberal channels, but you are by far one of the only channels that seem to actually care.
You seem to actually understand the subtle harm being caused.
Your not flashy but also you know your memes.
It also seems your comment section is full of quality viewers instead of quantity:)
It makes me mad channels that are edgy and target child audiences get millions of subscribers.
*cough cough* pewdiepie *cough cough*
But channels who actually care about the content like John wolfe, who is obviously the best gamer on youtube, get a fraction of that.
Could you separate out the end song? It's fantastic
A nevermind it's a demo you're working on, hazards of texting one's gf while watching a thing😆 I look forward to it!
In reference to parental responsibility. Have we forgotten that for most of human civilization it was not just the job of parents but of the community to raise children? A. Parents cannot be watching their kids all the time. They have other roles such as providing. B. What of the kids that don’t have responsible parents? We can take this same logic to its absurd extreme. Child sex traffickers should have no accountability because it is the parents job to protect. Schools should allow any adult to pick a kid up from school because it’s the parents job to make sure their kid is protected. Parents share responsibility but it’s also all of our responsibility to protect them. And ultimately it’s the perpetrar of harms responsibility to not harm children.
This is COMPLETELY off topic but your voice is very calming. Absolutely lovely to listen to. :)
This and the previous video are of course insightful and correct descriptions of a really big problem and I appreciate them both, but what I wasn't expecting was the kickass music. Reminds me of something like slow 90's trance almost, and a gorgeous singing voice.
:D
Your voice is so pleasing and calming
the problem is, 500 hours of video are uploaded to RUclips every minute. 1 billion hours of content are watched every day. it would be impossible to moderate by humans. and we already have automatic.. sort of AI, that demonetises things automatically. which is why people have to use code, they make the title with 'suic1de' for example. when talking about that, or eating disorder personal stories, drug abuse recovery etc. making this even more restrictive would make it difficult to create important content.
plus, a video can be titled innocently, and have inappropriate content. the AI also picks up on this some of the time and demonitises or de lists it. but it doesnt work like a human brain, we dont have that tech yet that can pick up on parody or irony. if you make a video about the dangers of fascism, the AI cant tell the difference between that and a video promoting fascism. it just sees 'bad' key words. it cant 'see'whats happening on the screen. you have to report stuff like that where you see it.
of course, when things are promoted by youtube it is different. the people invited to the events and on the front page / top of the algorithms and the ones rising fast should be monitored hard. but, the difficulty is the T&C's that are made to help can end up being harmful to other content creators, you have to be careful with the legal wording so it isnt restrictive. we have so much freedom on this platform which is good, and even television which is the opposite, had predators like jimmy saville literally using his show?position to groom and rape children
i really respect content creators like this, we have a really good community of conscious consumers and creators that bring attention to malicious people
I’m SO GLAD YOURE MAKING THIS ONE! I watched the first one but couldn’t find your channel and I was so bummed. I’m SO glad you popped back up!
Here I sit questioning my own parasocial relationship with your content, enjoying the effort and time in the editing actively demonstrating accountability. Really love the demo at the end. Please update if you put further work into it, really struck the soul.
The video is really well thought out and articulate and I liked it a lot but I really REALLY liked the demo at the end of your video too! do you have a soundcloud or something?