How different do you by think it would have been? With exciting baby 🍼 car’s seat test and diaper buying parking...lol But yeah, I really wanna see the quarter mile, lateral g force and Vmax tests gotta be neck and neck...
@@jean-mariemuga2819 You can buy an island for that and have money left over to furnish it and a boat and car. Might be a golf cart vehicle though, if the island is small.
"...the terms 4 seats and supercar were never really heard together". Hmm, how about MB CLS63 AMG 2006-10? Weight under 2t and 500hp... Kind of it is a supercar
Maserati Quattroporte GTS has also been around along time too. The current gen one is a 4 door supercar with a 193mph top speed with 0-60mph in 3.9 secs.
Interesting to see comments on these two. 99% made by those who’ve driven neither. I had the 63s gt 4 door for 5 months. Swapped it for the Porsche turbos S. simply put as a daily driver in a variety of road services the Porsche is better made, feels safer and is a different league in ride compfort. Mercs great but it rattles inside- centre console, the Drivers tech is phenomenal ( self driving better than Porsche), it has an amazing gearbox. But Porsche really had the duality the mercs never managed. I was influenced as many seem to be by RUclips and drag results, I’ve learnt they’re poor guides to whether you want one or the other. Everyday of the week I and my passengers would opt for the Porsche. Merc is a hoot but only really does loud and aggressive well. Porsche satisfies the gt remit way way better.
Check his sponsorships he's being a lil too nit picky with the Merc. PS side note doesn't he know about the CLS 63 what is he talking about Merc responding, I'm sorry Merc is the pioneer of 4dr fast coupe's
now it all about waiting list.... if you need car in hurry then had to jump on the shortest list.. otherwise by the time the car come it already outdated.
The Panamera Turbo (non-hybrid) Sport Turismo would be the better option. More boot space, easier access, and the rear hatch would accommodate the stroller more easily. Also a lighter car, so more dynamic
OKay.. so.... a few things, 1. the stroller always goes in sideways. 2. The sport turismo would be a better fit for a young family and the I'm surprised the e-hybrid went up against a non hybrid. I'm sure the Panamera Sport S would have been fine.
Convince your Wife that you are considering an upgrade?!? Are you talking about the cars? Or an upgrading of your Wife? Either way... both the Benz and the Porsche look quite amazing! Thanks for the video.
@s n Pipe down, if you're in the market for the GT at £120K you can very likely afford the Porsche too. He actually said the GT was lighter and a better steer, you must be deaf. 'Way nicer' is subjective.
The BMW M5 would be the weapon of choice, quicker than both and a more rounded proposition. Whilst its not the direct rival for these 2 being a sedan the BMW M8 grancoupe would also work nicely.
Not sure why they didn't use an amg s gt 4 door. That's got more power. No one buying an AMG GT 4 door isn't going all the way and not getting the S version
The comparison should have been made using the Panamera Turbo, it has the same V8 4.0L with 550hp, without the electric hybrid (e-hybrid) system, which adds 300kg of weight and because of that, the Turbo has a bigger boot with 500L, instead of 405L… 😎
@@mafioso8582 that would defeat the purpose of my comment, because the GT4 63 has 585hp and the GT4 63S has 639hp, which means that it should be: Panamera Turbo Vs. GT4 63 or Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid Vs. GT4 63S
The height of the load lips on these cars is ridiculous. What were the designers thinking? Also has this guy forgotten about the E63 & M5 Touring, RS6 Avant?
All these giant batteries hybrid versions of cars are a bit of sham. Because it adds so much weight, in the real world it's not really any more efficient unless you plug in and charge your car and go for short trips mostly. Nor is it any faster than a conventional 4.0L twin turbo V8 without the hybrid because those are 300kg less in weight. What they should have done was something like the Audi R18 etron. ~24kg of weight and you have the capacity to deliver 80+hp of energy. You only need a tiny energy storage to absorb your braking energy and release it back from 0-50kph to give you a lot of acceleration torque, the part of the acceleration phase that wastes the most petrol. You get all the fuel savings, more performance, and almost none of the weight penalty. Almost 10 years ago, they said they could do this by putting such a system underneath the passenger seat or what not. And the only reason why it hasn't been implimented is probably because people don't get tax discounts, since they aren't "plug in hybrids"
@@maz500 You Just Didn't Get It,Don't Ya People who are Interested In High Performance Saloons Don't care For Great Cars,They Want The best,In Case,The E63S Wagon The Fastest Without an electric Motor
@@-1jjk334 I think the point went over your head. Fifth Gear aren't looking for high performance executive cars; they're looking for standalone performance cars that have practically as well as supercar power
Picks the Top of the range Porsche Panamera and doesn't use the GT63s - You loose credibility for that, almost like fixing it to make it lean towards the porsche, do Fifth gear think it's viewers are stupid and don't know the GT63s exists?
I dunno what on earth Porsche were thinking when they decided to make the AC vent controllers in the screen. I think it is one of the dumbest and pointless ideas in the car industry. A perfect example of car manufacturers using technology ONLY for the sake of using technology. Hope they'll fix this in the facelift in a few years
Let's not forget that one car that actually kick-started the four-door supercar trend: Maserati Quattroporte. Yes, there has been a number of rivals now but the Maserati will always forever be the daddy.
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Jason, That is Bullshit. The Panamera like the Mercedes are both copycats. MPOWER!..know your history.
Nearly 3000rpm at 70mph? That can't be right, not with all those gears, surely? It would be gear limited well below top speed at that rate would it not?
The Panamera is the perfect example of how, and why, NOT to use haptic feedback touch sensitive buttons in place of conventional buttons and analogue controls... They ALWAYS require the driver to take his/her eyes off the road - and typically for over a second or more! Frankly, they are bloody dangerous and I'm actually quite surprised no road authorities haven't yet banned their use in some countries! If there was a particular car that I otherwise LOVED - but it had more than just a couple of haptic controls (that I couldn't find a way of replacing) - I just would not buy it and would look elsewhere!! They're lethal, fashion-driven idiotic wastes of design that will end up causing the deaths of a number of drivers/passengers/other road users and the sooner they disappear, the better! Plus their inevitable level of integration in dashboards means that when they fail, the time and costs of repair will be many times that of their analogue counterparts!
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This guy is a good presenter and respect being an F1 driver rather than a jumped up comedian
Why not the gt63s
How different do you by think it would have been? With exciting baby 🍼 car’s seat test and diaper buying parking...lol
But yeah, I really wanna see the quarter mile, lateral g force and Vmax tests gotta be neck and neck...
Enter the 4 seat HYPERCAR! Koenigsegg gemera!
Jean-Marie Muga uhhhh the koenigsegg will be a couple of million dollars...🤦🏻
@@edwill1595 The things a couple of million dollars can do for me here in Africa🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jean-mariemuga2819 You can buy an island for that and have money left over to furnish it and a boat and car. Might be a golf cart vehicle though, if the island is small.
THE MERCEDES LOOKS DATED IN THE INTERIOR??? ARE YOU OK MATE?
I think he was on about the infotainment system since it doesn't use MBUX
Its came from s class so yeah it is
@@maz500 It does use MBUX though...
@@4240cameron it doesn't; it has the old COMAND SYSTEM (yes, comand with 1 m) from the 2016 e class, MBUX screens are blue and touch sensitive
MrMintoni it comes from the E class...anyways it’s still dated compared to the A class
"...the terms 4 seats and supercar were never really heard together". Hmm, how about MB CLS63 AMG 2006-10? Weight under 2t and 500hp... Kind of it is a supercar
Ya know gemera?1700 hp with 4 seats.one trunk at front and a. FRUNK as well with 3500 nm of torque.does.0 100 in 1.9 seconds
google doodle that wasnt the point dude. The point was thst they stated that nothing sporty with 4 seats existed before which is wrong
google doodle and costs 20x as much as these cars for maybe twice the performance lmao
5:48 The cls doesnt exist to this guy. That’s been out since 2004. Lol!!
Maserati Quattroporte GTS has also been around along time too. The current gen one is a 4 door supercar with a 193mph top speed with 0-60mph in 3.9 secs.
fifth gear is back! I didnt even know this... well glad its back yall.
No tiff needell sadly
yeah.... boring and less viewer than ever.....
@@campkira Still beats topgear... with the new crew... times has changed
Interesting to see comments on these two. 99% made by those who’ve driven neither. I had the 63s gt 4 door for 5 months. Swapped it for the Porsche turbos S. simply put as a daily driver in a variety of road services the Porsche is better made, feels safer and is a different league in ride compfort. Mercs great but it rattles inside- centre console, the Drivers tech is phenomenal ( self driving better than Porsche), it has an amazing gearbox. But Porsche really had the duality the mercs never managed. I was influenced as many seem to be by RUclips and drag results, I’ve learnt they’re poor guides to whether you want one or the other. Everyday of the week I and my passengers would opt for the Porsche. Merc is a hoot but only really does loud and aggressive well. Porsche satisfies the gt remit way way better.
Mercedes look all alike.... Tons on the road. Panamera fastback looks so much sportier IMHO
Nice review Karun, and congratulations on being a new Dad. As for the cars, I will take the Mercedes....E63s
estate/wagon please.... That's the real family super car
Check his sponsorships he's being a lil too nit picky with the Merc. PS side note doesn't he know about the CLS 63 what is he talking about Merc responding, I'm sorry Merc is the pioneer of 4dr fast coupe's
He actually is affiliated with Merc through his current F1 job, heritage and show driver for Williams Mercedes F1 team
now it all about waiting list.... if you need car in hurry then had to jump on the shortest list.. otherwise by the time the car come it already outdated.
5:43 i thought that was what the CLS did 6 years before de Panamera.
use the base AMG vs the Top range Panamera... Yikes
@Zayd Mohammad but its not the gt63s this is gt63
not exactly base… there's a GT43 too. but yea I get your point
Zayd Mohammad nope. there is a 43 as well
The Panamera in the Sport Turismo (wagon) body is a much better fit for a family.... and it looks better from the back then the saloon version.
I watched the whole video very well done, great explanation, THANKS!
I'm not so sure about the looks on the AMG but the present Panamera looks way more better executed than the 1st gen.
Why not Audi RS7...!?
It's just a totally different look tho... At least imo
The Panamera Turbo (non-hybrid) Sport Turismo would be the better option. More boot space, easier access, and the rear hatch would accommodate the stroller more easily. Also a lighter car, so more dynamic
True
Why not the AMG GT 63 S
OKay.. so.... a few things, 1. the stroller always goes in sideways. 2. The sport turismo would be a better fit for a young family and the I'm surprised the e-hybrid went up against a non hybrid. I'm sure the Panamera Sport S would have been fine.
Convince your Wife that you are considering an upgrade?!? Are you talking about the cars? Or an upgrading of your Wife? Either way... both the Benz and the Porsche look quite amazing! Thanks for the video.
I agree. Why not the Gt63s AMG tho. It is much faster and has much more power.
He's a posh fan
Oh
does a dad test, picks the car that rides worse and has less space.... great test!
He’s a bozo I was thinking 🤔 the samething
Had I needed all that space, I'd go for a Mercedes station wagon with one of the big engines instead. But never the Porsche.
they still making them mean they still on sale...
@s n Pipe down, if you're in the market for the GT at £120K you can very likely afford the Porsche too. He actually said the GT was lighter and a better steer, you must be deaf.
'Way nicer' is subjective.
@s n Stupidest statement ever.
The only problem wits Panamera is the boot space so just get the Sport Turismo and it’ perfect
i would probably choose Taycan over these two..
The Taycan has too little headroom imo. Get a model Y performance.
M5 competition package for me!! 😍😍
#relatable
For the 1%
More like 10% were not talking millions here
Look for the Porsche in the used market for 50 to 60% off in a couple of years
So we're just gonna throw the first generation CLS 55 AMG out the window like it didn't set the benchmark for this category??
Tbh, it was Maserati Quattroporte that started the whole thing rolling.
The BMW M5 would be the weapon of choice, quicker than both and a more rounded proposition. Whilst its not the direct rival for these 2 being a sedan the BMW M8 grancoupe would also work nicely.
As long as the engine doesn't grenade itself! Lol!
Not sure why they didn't use an amg s gt 4 door. That's got more power. No one buying an AMG GT 4 door isn't going all the way and not getting the S version
Mercedes has park assist
Looking at the thumbnail I thought it was a Tesla model 3 against the Merc?
I am a Mercedes guy but this time I will give panamera a chance.
The panamera sport turismo is probably better for a family than the sedan
It would be interesting if you compared the sport turismo version of the Porsche
3000RPM @ 70MPH? Something doesn't sound quite right.
GTC4 lusso?
I like them both very much
Why would anyone pick amg GT 63 over e63 if practicality is also a concern. The back seat in GT 63 looks so uncomfortable for a long drive
The comparison should have been made using the Panamera Turbo, it has the same V8 4.0L with 550hp, without the electric hybrid (e-hybrid) system, which adds 300kg of weight and because of that, the Turbo has a bigger boot with 500L, instead of 405L… 😎
And he should use gt63s version which adds more HP
@@mafioso8582 that would defeat the purpose of my comment, because the GT4 63 has 585hp and the GT4 63S has 639hp, which means that it should be:
Panamera Turbo Vs. GT4 63
or
Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid Vs. GT4 63S
The height of the load lips on these cars is ridiculous. What were the designers thinking?
Also has this guy forgotten about the E63 & M5 Touring, RS6 Avant?
Can we get these two vs an M5 competition 1/4 mile.
DexxonGamerYT m5 has to be a BMW m8 coupe
What happened to the CLS?
It only goes up to a 53 model now, so the GT63S is really the new CLS63 (except far more capable on track than the CLS ever was)..
7:25 you are buying a 120000 GBP AMG and complaining about what? Fuel!
Cut the crab!!!
GT 63 has 639 hp not 585
Get tiff needle back!!!
Great host for fifth gear. Thanks Karun 👍🏻
Want space, e63s wagon! Not as fancy, but just as fast!
Panamera 4ever 🔥
Why no BMW 640 or Masser 🤔
Where's Tiff?
Cannot stand this guy or his nasally voice. Clearly taking money from Porsche. Bring back Tiff!!
Is this the same house when Tiff tested the Enzo and Mclaren?🤔
All these giant batteries hybrid versions of cars are a bit of sham. Because it adds so much weight, in the real world it's not really any more efficient unless you plug in and charge your car and go for short trips mostly. Nor is it any faster than a conventional 4.0L twin turbo V8 without the hybrid because those are 300kg less in weight. What they should have done was something like the Audi R18 etron. ~24kg of weight and you have the capacity to deliver 80+hp of energy. You only need a tiny energy storage to absorb your braking energy and release it back from 0-50kph to give you a lot of acceleration torque, the part of the acceleration phase that wastes the most petrol. You get all the fuel savings, more performance, and almost none of the weight penalty. Almost 10 years ago, they said they could do this by putting such a system underneath the passenger seat or what not. And the only reason why it hasn't been implimented is probably because people don't get tax discounts, since they aren't "plug in hybrids"
This presenter is good
G30 touring or w213 wagon will do just fine.
You should compare the panamera with the gt63s, not the basic gt63. Wtf is wrong with this channel?!?!?
Excuse me? BMW m5???? are you a car show or not?
Sooo what you saying is the Merc is better , I knew it all along
If I have a child I would buy a regular family car to get my child out of the equation and buy my luxury sport car for myself.
Honestly Karun Chandok voice is a bit ummmm annoying
What about porsche panamera turbo s sport turismo
Had some knee room did you? You're 5'5
I think he stated clearly that he wasn't particularly tall. But thanks for your exceptional detective work Sherlock
Who likes #Complex/#Overcomplicated??
If you do, you're #PartOfTheProblem!!
Merc for me
Take a Mondeo..!!
Nobody:
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Audi rs6 makes more sense
But Less Gears
But Audi RS6 is a high performance version of the A6 whereas the Panamera and GT63 are standalone high perf cars
@@maz500 You Just Didn't Get It,Don't Ya People who are Interested In High Performance Saloons Don't care For Great Cars,They Want The best,In Case,The E63S Wagon The Fastest Without an electric Motor
@@-1jjk334 I think the point went over your head. Fifth Gear aren't looking for high performance executive cars; they're looking for standalone performance cars that have practically as well as supercar power
@@maz500 Which The E63S Wagon Makes Sense,Right?
Picks the Top of the range Porsche Panamera and doesn't use the GT63s - You loose credibility for that, almost like fixing it to make it lean towards the porsche, do Fifth gear think it's viewers are stupid and don't know the GT63s exists?
I'm sure Porsche has its own stroller or what were you backwards brits call it.
I'll take gt63
The nearly 24 inches of screen is looking a bit.....dated... you folx are rediculous
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The amg gt63 interior looks dated???? Wtf is he talking about????😂😂😂
Screw hybrids!
It should have been a Panamera Turbo S - not the hybrid ....
The Turbo S is only available as a hybrid
I dunno what on earth Porsche were thinking when they decided to make the AC vent controllers in the screen. I think it is one of the dumbest and pointless ideas in the car industry. A perfect example of car manufacturers using technology ONLY for the sake of using technology. Hope they'll fix this in the facelift in a few years
I'm legally blind but I recognized that the journalist is Indian according to his accent. 😁😂
Nicely reviewed... But in real world... practicality, durability and peace of mind... The Merc always ahead...
Merc is a catfish on wheels.
Turbo ???, why not the gt 63s???, wtf
Let's not forget that one car that actually kick-started the four-door supercar trend: Maserati Quattroporte. Yes, there has been a number of rivals now but the Maserati will always forever be the daddy.
Jason, That is Bullshit. The Panamera like the Mercedes are both copycats. MPOWER!..know your history.
Loved 5th gear but I don’t watch it anymore because of the awful presenters
Nearly 3000rpm at 70mph? That can't be right, not with all those gears, surely? It would be gear limited well below top speed at that rate would it not?
Birdie Num Num
Such cheap family cars!
Interior looks dated??? The new Merc's have reputation of having the best interior!!!
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The Panamera is the perfect example of how, and why, NOT to use haptic feedback touch sensitive buttons in place of conventional buttons and analogue controls...
They ALWAYS require the driver to take his/her eyes off the road - and typically for over a second or more! Frankly, they are bloody dangerous and I'm actually quite surprised no road authorities haven't yet banned their use in some countries! If there was a particular car that I otherwise LOVED - but it had more than just a couple of haptic controls (that I couldn't find a way of replacing) - I just would not buy it and would look elsewhere!!
They're lethal, fashion-driven idiotic wastes of design that will end up causing the deaths of a number of drivers/passengers/other road users and the sooner they disappear, the better! Plus their inevitable level of integration in dashboards means that when they fail, the time and costs of repair will be many times that of their analogue counterparts!
uhhh, e60 m5 2005 perhaps...
You know this car is super unreliable right?
@@lucasrustt still a 4 door supercar
Also, Maserati Quattroporte V. Has a Ferrari engine.
@@lucasrustt Yeah I hear that quite a lot but wondered what it thats unreliable is it the gearbox?
@@theoneandonly6830 It's the engine mainly. I think a new 1 costs £25000.
For the love of god, please sack this Karum guy! please!
Very, very stupid review.
4 adult people weighing 300 kg.? Not american people .. 🤣🤣🤣
Right, the upper torso of one of those gastropods should do
sorry fell asleep!
Where is tesla model s performance?
Mercedes-Benz 😎
This guy just reviewed a car based on whether his kid can sleep in it, im so done :|
The Indian voice is annoying me
Racist
toyota is GARBAGE