Been looking at these. We have 2 toro time masters. Been using my original one for 2 years. Haven’t had a real problem yet. Not 1 belt, transmission etc. pretty happy then the time master to be honest. And it’s used on 50% of our lawns. But I like these 30s a lot.
If you decide to get one, get one with the Kohler engine! Do not get one with the Kawasaki. It's a great mower and cuts very well. It is heavy, so keep that in mind too. If you need to adjust the deck height much throughout the day, the way they have it sucks. So maybe look at my fix and consider doing something similar. I did an interview with Eamon Giboo about a week ago and he uses the TimeMaster. He loves it and uses it on every yard of his (I think about 46 or so) ruclips.net/video/XEx4CtCrLs8/видео.html. Thanks for watching and commenting!
If the cables ain't messed up , the belts are this machine, have given me nothing but difficulty. The transmission failed with in 2 years . I don't even do that much work
That's unfortunate. Mine will be 3 years old this year and I have not had any issue with the cables or belts. Maybe it was just put together wrong or overtightened? Thanks for watching and commenting!
I hate mine so much, l have to keep buying gears for the wheels to connect the transmission plus it ways an absolute ton, especially where l live where the ground is relatively soft so it struggles, also feel like its under powered as it takes effort to get it moving. Mine hates weather, to hot it wont start, to cold it wont start. I will give it props for mulching tho, also had to replace the motor and transmission twice
Haven't had an issue with the transmission but the brake sucks. It's stuck on mine right now and it makes it very hard to pull the mower back. I'm going to get in there and remove it and the next mower I buy is going to be a Toro. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja Heavy mofo...not practical for what little we do with a pusher. I actually converted a timemaster by repowering with a Kohler Command Pro CV224 and new Exmark pulleys. Light, easy and cuts just like a Exmark 30
I knew they were heavy. How did you like the castors instead of straight wheels? That is the only reason why I am interested in them. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja Casters helped maybe a little but no one liked it. It's just heavy, positive rear axle so turning it requires manpower not the mower because both rear wheels have traction and don't allow the mower to turn.
For commercial work? My brake system on it went out, so i had to fix it and so far, that is really the only thing that has broken. Great mower for making lots of money! Thanks for watching and commenting!
If you can use the bigger mower on most if not all your lawns, it's a no brainer to get it. Increasing efficiency on each lawn is the key to making sure you make a good profit on the lawn. Having a bigger or faster mower, or one you can stand on which can dramatically decrease how quickly you get tired, is like a cheat code to making money. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja awesome thanks for the advice I was thinking the same, if you have the standing vs 0turn did you stop using the stander once you could ride, or do you find it helpful to have the versatility?
@@astrobogie2096 You're welcome, buddy! I have a 32" Exmark Staris-E (stand-on), 48" Wright Stander X (stand-on) and the Exmark Commerical 30 (walk behind). I do not use the Commerical 30 unless I have to like not being able to fit the 32" through a gate. Versatility is good, but if a gate is too small for any of my mowers mentioned, I won't take on the customer. I would love to use my 48", dubbed Big Bird, on EVERYTHING, but I cannot. I will use whatever I can use for the specific lawn. I hope that helps.
You need to try the club cadet mower with the Kohler engine. See how good it is. A lot cheaper then the Exmark with the Kawasaki engine all it is a Toro mower make ex mark 3 to 4 times more for an exmark and all you are getting is a toro mower.
Only issue with that is Cub Cadet isn't here in Denver to my knowledge. I know Exmark and Toro are essentially the same. The dealer I go to only has Exmark and one place has cornered the market for Wright and Scag. Thanks for watching and commenting!
😂 two seasons down, and even though I've gotten used to it, I still hate the Exmark 30. The operation is still not intuitive, she's been in the shop way too much, and the parking brake literally does not last more than a few days to a week.
That's a bummer. I have only had 1 issue with the brake, and I fixed it myself. I love how it cuts, and that's the only reason why I stick with Exmark. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja yeah, I just haven't had great experiences with new Exmark. I also bought a 60 two seasons ago, and that had more issues than a new mower should have, and I'm not one to abuse equipment, so it's not that.... I said it before I bought those two, and I didn't because my closest dealer is an Exmark dealer, but next time I'm definitely going with Scag. I just want to see how it does under pressure. I'll work out the dealer service logistics when it comes to that. Although with the 30, I would prefer the Scag to the Exmark next time, but that Ferris 32 has my interest too....
I've watched many of these videos and it seems to me that Ferris is the way to go. 10.2 hp Honda, hydro drive with reverse, air tires in back, castor wheels in front, single point height adjustment, pricey though.
Yes. The other mower I have is the Toro TurfMaster. We have used the Toro TurfMaster for years working for a different company. Thanks for watching and commenting!
It's similar yes it's got the the same engine and a heavy duty transmission. Toro owns Exmark and also SCAG I believe. I have 2 timemasters I use commercially sometimes I have to change the blade clutch belt because it's not very durable.
😂😂😂😂 Yep, all of my lawns look horrible with all the clippings on the lawn. It's so bad in fact, that they have been the greenest, most healthy they have been since I started mowing them. I will adjust my mowing practices because of this comment, I feel so ashamed. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Most properties in Florida, don't care if clippings are left in the lawn, so long as they aren't huge grass balls. Clippings aren't hurting the grass, until they become over abundant, than a dethatching can solve this.
You realize virtually no commercial lawn care companies bag and haul, right? A premium service. Most people aren't willing to pay for that. In areas where they are, that's great. But it's a niche, what you want is definitely the exception
What do you think of the mower? Are you looking into buying this model or looking at maybe the SFC-30 and its castor wheels?
Been looking at these. We have 2 toro time masters. Been using my original one for 2 years. Haven’t had a real problem yet. Not 1 belt, transmission etc. pretty happy then the time master to be honest. And it’s used on 50% of our lawns. But I like these 30s a lot.
If you decide to get one, get one with the Kohler engine! Do not get one with the Kawasaki. It's a great mower and cuts very well. It is heavy, so keep that in mind too. If you need to adjust the deck height much throughout the day, the way they have it sucks. So maybe look at my fix and consider doing something similar. I did an interview with Eamon Giboo about a week ago and he uses the TimeMaster. He loves it and uses it on every yard of his (I think about 46 or so) ruclips.net/video/XEx4CtCrLs8/видео.html. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja yea we use on at least 40-45 yards a week. The rest I use 36 or 52.
I use the toro turfmaster hdx at work and it's amazing.
If the cables ain't messed up , the belts are this machine, have given me nothing but difficulty. The transmission failed with in 2 years . I don't even do that much work
That's unfortunate. Mine will be 3 years old this year and I have not had any issue with the cables or belts. Maybe it was just put together wrong or overtightened? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja our grass is different in the north west its dence wet and thick.
So it has to work more/harder... Which makes sense.
I hate mine so much, l have to keep buying gears for the wheels to connect the transmission plus it ways an absolute ton, especially where l live where the ground is relatively soft so it struggles, also feel like its under powered as it takes effort to get it moving. Mine hates weather, to hot it wont start, to cold it wont start. I will give it props for mulching tho, also had to replace the motor and transmission twice
Haven't had an issue with the transmission but the brake sucks. It's stuck on mine right now and it makes it very hard to pull the mower back. I'm going to get in there and remove it and the next mower I buy is going to be a Toro. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Scag fsc 30 stay away...sold mine at a loss and glad to part with it
Wow, ok! What was wrong with it?
@@LawnCareNinja Heavy mofo...not practical for what little we do with a pusher. I actually converted a timemaster by repowering with a Kohler Command Pro CV224 and new Exmark pulleys. Light, easy and cuts just like a Exmark 30
I knew they were heavy. How did you like the castors instead of straight wheels? That is the only reason why I am interested in them. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja Casters helped maybe a little but no one liked it. It's just heavy, positive rear axle so turning it requires manpower not the mower because both rear wheels have traction and don't allow the mower to turn.
Thanks just got one. So far so good.
For commercial work? My brake system on it went out, so i had to fix it and so far, that is really the only thing that has broken. Great mower for making lots of money! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have a 21” u think it would be better to get a walk behind or stand on vs a 30”? The cut times are my biggest killer so far with the push mower
If you can use the bigger mower on most if not all your lawns, it's a no brainer to get it. Increasing efficiency on each lawn is the key to making sure you make a good profit on the lawn. Having a bigger or faster mower, or one you can stand on which can dramatically decrease how quickly you get tired, is like a cheat code to making money. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja awesome thanks for the advice I was thinking the same, if you have the standing vs 0turn did you stop using the stander once you could ride, or do you find it helpful to have the versatility?
@@astrobogie2096 You're welcome, buddy! I have a 32" Exmark Staris-E (stand-on), 48" Wright Stander X (stand-on) and the Exmark Commerical 30 (walk behind). I do not use the Commerical 30 unless I have to like not being able to fit the 32" through a gate. Versatility is good, but if a gate is too small for any of my mowers mentioned, I won't take on the customer. I would love to use my 48", dubbed Big Bird, on EVERYTHING, but I cannot. I will use whatever I can use for the specific lawn. I hope that helps.
You need to try the club cadet mower with the Kohler engine. See how good it is. A lot cheaper then the Exmark with the Kawasaki engine all it is a Toro mower make ex mark 3 to 4 times more for an exmark and all you are getting is a toro mower.
Only issue with that is Cub Cadet isn't here in Denver to my knowledge. I know Exmark and Toro are essentially the same. The dealer I go to only has Exmark and one place has cornered the market for Wright and Scag. Thanks for watching and commenting!
😂 two seasons down, and even though I've gotten used to it, I still hate the Exmark 30. The operation is still not intuitive, she's been in the shop way too much, and the parking brake literally does not last more than a few days to a week.
That's a bummer. I have only had 1 issue with the brake, and I fixed it myself. I love how it cuts, and that's the only reason why I stick with Exmark. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@LawnCareNinja yeah, I just haven't had great experiences with new Exmark. I also bought a 60 two seasons ago, and that had more issues than a new mower should have, and I'm not one to abuse equipment, so it's not that.... I said it before I bought those two, and I didn't because my closest dealer is an Exmark dealer, but next time I'm definitely going with Scag. I just want to see how it does under pressure. I'll work out the dealer service logistics when it comes to that. Although with the 30, I would prefer the Scag to the Exmark next time, but that Ferris 32 has my interest too....
Need to try to skag with the caster wheels or the Cadillac Ferris fw15 better machines
I would love to try the Scag. We don't have Ferris here in Colorado, at least not that I know of. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The Ferris is a really heavy machine it's like a walk behind.😂 Scag is also pretty heavy but it's not as bad.
I've watched many of these videos and it seems to me that Ferris is the way to go. 10.2 hp Honda, hydro drive with reverse, air tires in back, castor wheels in front, single point height adjustment, pricey though.
Is he talking about the Toro HDX Turf master?
Yes. The other mower I have is the Toro TurfMaster. We have used the Toro TurfMaster for years working for a different company. Thanks for watching and commenting!
He’s talking about turfmaster. Not the hdx version.
Hdx is comparable to the x series
Turfmaster is comparable to the s series
Both great mowers.
It's similar yes it's got the the same engine and a heavy duty transmission.
Toro owns Exmark and also SCAG I believe.
I have 2 timemasters I use commercially sometimes I have to change the blade clutch belt because it's not very durable.
What a sloppy unprofessional job leaving the clippings on the lawn and not hauling away. In
a few days the clippings will turn brown and look awful
😂😂😂😂 Yep, all of my lawns look horrible with all the clippings on the lawn. It's so bad in fact, that they have been the greenest, most healthy they have been since I started mowing them. I will adjust my mowing practices because of this comment, I feel so ashamed. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Most properties in Florida, don't care if clippings are left in the lawn, so long as they aren't huge grass balls. Clippings aren't hurting the grass, until they become over abundant, than a dethatching can solve this.
You realize virtually no commercial lawn care companies bag and haul, right? A premium service. Most people aren't willing to pay for that. In areas where they are, that's great. But it's a niche, what you want is definitely the exception
I mulch with mine. I gave up side discharge 30 years ago.