I paid $400 for a Series X and $300 for a PC. You all know the specs of the Series X so I won't bother listing those. The PC has an i7 8700k, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB. No doubt the Series X is more powerful than my PC but I'm happy with them both.
Why not get a PS5 instead for the exclusives though? You're basically just playing PC games with a gamepad on a series X (not knocking it or anything, great console).
The ONLY thing I miss about Console gaming is the fact that games just work the 1st time and at launch. You really have to be your own Desktop Support Guy/Gal in order to get into PC gaming. That's something that's not talked about enough if at all. I was fortunate to have IT guys get me into PC gaming and helped me along my early days. Great video though.
@@slammedsandoval That's how I built my PC last year. 1st ever. Didn't have a clue. People still don't have the confidence to try. I get it. No one wants to spend money and break it etc. Glad I did. I got a decent Rig vs buying a prebuilt.
@@slammedsandoval That is definitely true. But I think the bigger picture is that a lot people don't want to deal with that. A lot of people just want to sit back and relax and enjoy their game. If you have to spend potentially hours trying to get a game to run on your PC because of some weird bug with Windows, the game, driver, software, or hardware, it can be incredibly frustrating to do that. By the time you're finished trying to fix the problem, you may already be frustrated and not want to play the game anymore. There's nothing like waiting for Windows to finish its updates at the most inconvenient of times only to find that it causes problems with a program you use regularly. To be clear, I'm not saying that everyone is going to have problems playing PC games. But they are real potential issues that can arise with a PC that just don't exist with consoles. Just depends on what people are willing to tolerate. A gaming PC is still a computer that can still have the same issues a typical computer can have.
My decent rig is better than a PS5/XBSX. Not playing either of those games. BF2042, some RPGs some Action etc. Now the one in the video, maybe fits your description.
The advantage that the console has on the PC at the same price point, is that the games on console are optimized for that specific hardware that never changes. On the other hand PC spec varies so much that the optimization for that particular PC is left to the user.
Yup, that's also why PC games take a good year or two longer to come out than the same game on console. It takes way more time to get the game working correctly, with good performance and looking good when you have to test for so many different combinations of specs. And yet people _still_ don't understand and think that game companies do it on purpose in order to "trick" people into buying multiple copies of each game. That's just a fortunate side effect for the game developer/studio rather than their main goal.
They are different between them of course, but it is not as big as the variation you get in on PC's. Xbox series x or s are only two systems with specific hardware that barely change during the life of the generation.
@@asharohx lol yes. But developers dont have to optimize for millions of different hardware configurations. Thats not how it works. A road doesnt have to be optimized for thousands of different cars, tired, engines and transmissions. Rather the car choices determine how the car performs on the road. Now if you have a shitty road with lots of potsholes, all cars will drive poorly there even the Ferraris. See the analogue?
@@GhoulSolo___ PS5 pro IS a thing. Google it. And I work in IT. I do nothing but design software that has to run on a million different pieces of hardware. You use abstraction and libraries lol. You dont write old fashion machinecode. You program in languages that all hardware can understand. The hardwares power will just decide how well it will run it. If you have a specific piece of hardware, yes you can optimize for it. That just means that you preset everything to a degree where you have tested it works. Pc game optimalisation is done mostly by the user by picking low, medium or high settings....
There's plenty of videos like that. There's one titled something like "I built a 474$ xbox", had a pc for that price with the same performance as an xbox. They're pretty much the same, it just depends on whether you want to do some work on your pc or want it strictly for gaming/spotify/youtube. Performance wise they're pretty much the same, with the pc being slightly better (but it's also more of a pain in the ass to setup and to maintain unlike a console that's just plug and play)
Also, there's no need to get an xbox series x when on a budget monitor, since series s is exactly the same on a 1080p/1440p monitor and it'd make no sense to spend 200$ extra for the same performance
@@miuletzmitzu6641 its not jsut resolution that changes. its Frame rates and general graphics. Street Fighter is one that comes to mind because it looks like ASS on series s.
@miuletzmitzu6641 you also have to think about the long run will the series s be able to keep up with newer gen games or not idk but the series x will for longer that's for sure
You should use same monitor, same headset, same keyboard and same mouse for both setups. And instead dock you should buy Series X for same price as PC.. That would be fair..
Same ish i said and play nee games like forxa and see how that plays out. They want to leave out “ these arent comparable cause the xbox series s can play new games “
Great video! Love the comparison! I noticed on warzone on the series s the 120hz wasn't turned on. I play on a series x and it's way smoother on 120hz!
Given that most people who are buying a console will already have a TV that they will be using it on, I think it would have been better to get a Series X for the comparison. The only downside to that is it would be harder to build a comparable PC for the same price
Definitely would have to rely on used parts, though I believe you can probably put together a setup with an old office PC upgraded with a better PSU and a good GPU pretty easily.
There is a clear winner, it’s obvious the console. It’s literally way cheaper with better performance and graphics. They literally said it performs and looks better at a cheaper price in the video. They also tried to increase the budget of the PC by buying useless peripherals that were overpriced to up the cost of the console setup too. If they just used a ps5 digital or series x then it definitely would’ve killed the PC I’m almost every aspect. Badly too
@@JustMyFish he has a xbox and hasnt ever saw good graphics lol, these console gamers out here struggling with downscaled res in 1080p meanwhile im over here 200+ fps in warzone maxed out in 2k lmaoooooooo. The people who buy xboxs also buy those 4k tvs for their gaming when they literally output 1080p downscaled to 980p. btw in the pc world, 1080p has been dead since 2019, 50% of gamers are higher than that now id imagine. everyone i know is at least 1440p. ( if ur on a budget dont even compart ur console to a pc cause in some cases pcs have multiple parts that costs the same as a xbox and will outperform any xbox made in the next 15 years.
@@bruh5791 your not playing anything in 4k for $500. only 90 series cards handle 4k and brutha man they are between 800-2k depending on generation sooooooo ur playing 1080p/720p and its "4k" to sell to dumb console players who dont whats inside the thing their buying??? u wanna screen share and compare some visuals because i bet u cant even play cyberpunk and it looks like real life on my system. to add: even the newest gpu's, ex: the 4090 cant even run 4k well. nothing is running 4k native. it uses downscaling everywhere to get smoothness, dlss+ frame gen is hurting the final quality. 4k gaming just isnt here yet, it will be in 5+ years
But you get a free OS so that's $25. You get a free controller so that is $70. You get an hdmi 2.1 cord with a usb c to a. A free game too. So you are looking at $300 after the freebies.
@@jiggerypokery2962 There's way more to this discussion than that. It all boils down to whether you have PC experience or not. For 400$ I can build a pc that's better in performance, can install the OS for free, and I just bought a xbox series controller for 30$. Monitors always come with a hdmi cable so you don't need to buy anything other than controller, keyboard, mouse and headset (and there's plenty of decent mouse, keyboard and headset kits for 20-30$). So you're looking at spending 450$ on something that performs better. But if you have no PC knowledge or don't want to work that much for it and just want to plug in the machine and play then the console is the winner. Both have pros and cons. There's also the game pass being cheaper on pc (For xbox you need to pay 17$ to play online, for pc it's 10$ and you get the exact same things as on xbox) so you're looking at 70$ extra dollars PER YEAR for a console, the ability to mod games, and the ability to get games for free (fuck the publishers that don't adjust game prices based on region, in what world is it accepable to sell a game for 70$ in a country where the minimum wage is less than 300$?)
I’ve just switched to PC gaming, but I’m using it on the TV with a controller (and mini keyboard for opening up everything). I like to keep it as close to console gaming experience as I can, but I prefer the better graphics and frame rate. I would add that I don’t play competitive multiplayer games. Also games I’ve lost access to are still available on Steam etc which is a massive plus for me. I would say for casual gamers, just get a console but for hardcore gamers I’d say PC. If you’re in between take your pick, both have pro’s and cons.
Mouse smoothing is turned on when playing on console by default I'm fairly sure its an option you have to turn off in the console settings to fix it (at least it was on PS5)
Bought an hp shell pc with 500gb hd and 16 gb ram with so many ports for $249 because I'm a nube :) from these guys and played FF7 remake so hard. I loved it. These guys are the realist pc builders. Spread the love. Oh use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard with a 55 inch tv and an xbox controller.
I own every console including vr and i decided to finally pull the trigger on a pc i spent 3300 for my entire build ryzen 9 7900x and rtx 4070ti …playing battlefield on ultra settings 1440p 144hz I’m getting up to 300 frs more or less. I’m still getting use to K&M but I’ve been loving it the pass week and building it myself was an experience 👌
If you’re looking to upgrade your setup I would invest in a 240hz monitor. It’s the smoothest and fastest you can get, especially since it sounds like you have money to spend on it.
There is no PC that you can build at $250 that can compete. I love PC gaming, but nothing is cheaper than consoles. I got a Series X brand new yesterday for $350 on Amazon and there is nothing that can compete at that price. If I had more money… I would go back to PC.
That's true. But the only reason the consoles are cheaper is because both Microsoft and Sony loose money per console they sell. They more or less recoup that cost with the online game service fees as well as their online stores and official accessories.
It would be these guys taking a $300 budget console and spending a whole extra $300 on crap. They didn't even get the One TB extra storage......😢 something that would be actually useful!!!
Good video. If you are on a budget I would recommend the PC hands down because with XBox you have to pay for XBL to play MP side of games and that cost on PC could be put towards better parts over time.
@dunix16 My very first PC was a custom build that I did for $700 that had a AMD FX-8150 and I ran that till 1st gen Ryzen CPUs game out. I do PC gaming on what I call "PC gaming on a console budget" where its the cost of the 1st console then after that its only the cost of PS+ or XBL cost that is used for the upgrades
But for free games such as cod warzone , fortnite and all free games don't need xbl (Known as xbox live) so if those are your main games the series s will do it well and u don't need to buy xbl but if you play paid games u need It's for ps5 too
But, if your paying 600 dollars or more get a custom pc or a gaming laptop as the ps5 is not worth it so it would be better to get a gaming laptop which uses an rtx 2090 or above as both are not customisable which I mean by you cannot add a 4090 in a laptop or game consoles but for pc u cannot get one with a 2090 or above
@dunix16 But for that price, you can't find a good gaming laptop or pc and used ones are your only option so thats why and also people still play on consoles only because they are used to it so if your used to playing
@dunix16 I'm not talking about you and I'm talking about everyone else and almost any laptop without an Intel celeron,centerion,pentium can run cs go and let's stop arguing now
before i even start the video, ill put in my 2 cents as someone whos last console was a ps3 and have been building pcs for 24 years... if the only purpose of your device is gaming and maybe some streaming platforms, get a console... if you want to do more than watch movies or play games, even a used prebuilt with a few upgrades can handle almost anything you guys throw at it, as you guys have demonstrated time and again
after the video, i do agree with your conclusions, to each their own... but i will continue to be a pc guy for 4 reasons... upgradability, beyond just a storage drive... the ability to multitask is vastly easier... the sheer amount of software and mods a pc can run vs a console... and im cheap(ish), i pay for internet every month and an occasional game, i refuse to pay 10 to 15 dollars a month for a service to play the games i already paid for with my friends
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Been subscribed for only a short time and have been enjoying the content. This 'challenge' was amusing, no doubt that with deep pockets a superior setup is PC. But try and be fair. If your cost point is $600 you really needed to #1. Require NEW product only. No Used, period. #2. Buy the Xbox Series X or PS5. #3 Same monitor for both configs. Obviously the consoles would win with these restrictions. BTW I game on PC (30+ years), on console (20+ years) and smartphone (2 years). Keep up the great work guys!
This is like a setup I would do pc for me and Xbox series s or x or ps5 for my brother but maybe two different tables or one big one so we can game together
Series x $400 with Diablo 4 and $50gc at multiple stores . If a person is considering either guess what they have a tv! Plug it in, play. The series S wins this because it’s now $200 … it’s $200 and no driver drama, no components for this and that. If someone is truly on a budget and just wants a fun experience for gaming the series S would be the pick 95/100 times
I'm glad this came out today 😂 I have my Series S on top of my One. Probably not the greatest. I think I'm getting the stand or at least requesting that and the headset.
😊😊the whole reason I gave up computer gaming (besides the buying new parts every couple months to play the latest games) is that with a controller I can sit in my easy chair and game on my 50” tv and enjoy life. I get those that spend a lot of money on a pc not wanting to buy a console just to play the games but I’m of the opinion that all Xbox games should be mandatory controller so everyone is working with the same input device.
I haven’t bought pc parts in over a year and I can still play every game I want no issues then I can swap to my 55” tv and grab my x box pad and still play from bed if I like I still have an x box but it’s not been turned on in a long long time no need for it
@@theitechlab exactly the only down side is you can’t play UFC on pc that’s literally the only reason I still have a console for the rare times I wanna go on ufc 😂 and parts last years and years lmao there’s options to upgrade but you wouldn’t need to every few months load of 💩 😂
I have been thru the ps and xbox roll coaster. What I want that only the PC gives is options with games like mods. Consoles are allowing some modding but even at that your mod selection will be restricted. In mod capacity and types of mods.
Ive got both of these, the same HP, however I have a ryzen 5 3500, and originally came with a 1650 supe which I ended up upgrading to a 4060 for a good fit and low power usage, and a series s, I play on the pc a lot more, and it is honestly a good pc, other than having a proprietarty mobo and psu, but would recommend this desktop for anyone wanting to get into pc gaming
I’m looking into building the Toasty Bros budget PC. Is there any reason that would advise against hooking up a PC to a newer tv instead of a monitor? I have a 65” Samsung 4K , and I like playing on a couch 😂 It has plenty of ports on it, so why not?
For the Xbox set up did you go to settings then to general and then to tv display settings and change the refresh rate? That could of helped with your compare testing. 😁 Also did you get the get app to for controller mapping cause you could change the analog sticks for sensitivity! 😁 I use it all the time for my elite series 2 controller for every game when I button map!and you can store up to 150 of them I think!
I got mo series s on the market place with 2 controllers for $140, a PC could not beat that at all, but if I could afford a PC I would go for a PC over a console anu day.
I think the console setup is the winner here. Better monitor and peripherals deals. But the pc setup is good too having a great upgradability. I will definitely change the brand of monitor on that pc setup.
I feel like what the console gains in peripheral deals it loses with the cost of XBOX Live. With the PC setup you do end up spending that money you save from not having XBL on upgrades, but it's something that's actually improving your experience rather than just being online play.
same, at the end of the day it just depends on your uses for it. I'm someone who uses microsoft office and who likes to mod games, so i'll always stick with a pc. But for someone who just wants to turn on their machine and play/listen to some music? Then console has some great pros for that, just turn it on and immediatly game without any errors or issues
Do what you feel is most fun. Whether it be the Nintendo Switch or the top of the line PlayStation. If it's fun to you, that's what counts. Don't worry about impressing other people. Because that's expensive! I have an Xbox Series X. I have a PC with a rx6800 video card that I bought for $100 less than a brand new Xbox. And it hurt to spend that much. But virtual reality is demanding. The Xbox does great! Especially with a 55 inch OLED with HDMI 2.1. My PC is mostly used for VR. But Steam often has good sales. It eats everything I throw at it and smiles back. If you want to micromanage each setting, or want to bling it out with RGB a PC might be for you. If you like to turn on the TV and console and be ready to play in 30 seconds, a console maybe for you. But like I said at the top of this comment, do what makes you happy.
I appreciate the video, but it would have been better to showcase how the PC has frame-gen options, like lossless scaling and showing off tricks that are available to the PC side, like tweaking settings.
I paid somewhere around 1400 for my pc, and I played on the Xbox series x for a while, and if your playing on console I highly recommend getting a monitor, i played on a tv on console and got a monitor for the Xbox, but once I started getting used to the monitor I improved in every game I play. If you’re looking for a more serious gaming experience I would get a pc, but if your playing on console and play on a tv, I would get a monitor no matter what.
PC has no forced pay to play online. The the forced paywall is why I see most people move away from console. It does get expensive having to pay to play online every month. Over so many months of forced to pay to play online, you basically pay for a PC. I think Xbox and Playstation both charge around $10 a month so that's $120 a year, yes you can buy a yearly card for cheaper but either way you have to include the monthly charge to compare it to PC.
The test you missed was using a controller on both setups. Myself the reason I haven’t pc gamed is the keyboard and mouse. Physically they are harder to use for me.
I would have gone with a less expensive office PC with that GPU. Getting the cost of the PC down by even 50 dollars by going something with an older CPU would have given you room for a pair of Koss kph30i's (Great pair of headphones with a decent inline mic) and an 8BitDo controller
The video was cool, i enjoy these but what you don't mention is online subscription with consoles. Or did it change? Adding the life of a console, 4 to 7 years right? That 60 dollars a year or more adds up real fast.
I have a series x. I'm interested in the series s cause I'm wondering what's the catch? If it still plays new games then it's probably still a great deal. Even if the graphics and performance isn't as good. I don't think you'd have to buy extra accessories for a console besides battery packs.
The only 2 downsides are slightly worse graphics (which to a casual gamer is barely noticeable. I've been playing videogames for 15 years now and watched a comparasion video, the difference was so small most of the time I couldn't see it until the zoomed in and pointed it out) and it being digital. The catch is microsoft and sony sell those consoles at a loss, what they're making money off is you buying games from them/game passes.
It plays games far worse than the series X. Don’t listen to people that say things run great on it. With newer games the S runs really poor. Terrible frame drops, low res. It’s going to get way worse next year with unreal engine 5 titles or anything on a modern game engine. Get an X for 400$. I have an X and an S. There’s a huge difference.
I noticed you tested the setups with 2 multi-player only games. Did you remember to include the cost of gamepass in with the Xbox build? At $10/month for the basic subscription over, say a 5 year lifespan, adds an additional $600 to the cost of the console. This is a cost the pc does not share.
People are always saying that pc is better than console, we know they are literally comparing a 400 dollar consoles to a pc thats over a 1000 dollars, if u compare a 600 ps5 to a 600 pc, ps5 would better much better.
I have a Xbox series s and want to get a pc and I’m getting it for Christmas from my parents but I won’t be paying for Xbox ultimate as I family share so I won’t be able to play Xbox games on my pc and will only be able to play steam games but don’t have the money to spend on many games should I upgrade my Xbox or buy the pc?
You won't be able to play any games you're purchased on the Xbox on PC. But game pass is 100% on PC and you can play all the games through the game pass PC. Everything from Halo, Forza, all the EA games etc all work on PC
1 thing that makes console better, coming from a newly 4060 owner! $499 to play triple A games for at least 10 years before thinking about upgrading, pc you want to upgrade every 3 months!
If you’re on a budget the series s is definitely the way to go. Used mine pretty heavily for a year with my 4k smart tv and it was a great experience. The fact that you can play all of the newest games out of the box makes it worth it alone. Just get the Xbox and save money for a better PC.
I have a Xbox series s and even though you guys used a 1080p monitor and thought the consoles might down scale resolution it doesn’t too much. I used a 1440p monitor and it looks the same and even better of course because it was 1440p.
I bought a Lenovo legion gaming computer and it was on sale from 3000 aud to 2000 aud with 4k gaming with average for 200 fps and if you run 1080p it will be 400 fps and 1440p 350 fps. In the computer there is a 4070ti and a i9 CPU with lots of fans. Do you think this was a good deal?
With how good consoles are these days the only real benefit to having a budget pc over a console is if you want to play pc only games or don't want to pay to play online
I wish we can use the x box as a pc because it’s built for gaming and we can connect a mouse and keyboard word the x box can just be used as a power house
I paid $400 for a Series X and $300 for a PC. You all know the specs of the Series X so I won't bother listing those. The PC has an i7 8700k, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB. No doubt the Series X is more powerful than my PC but I'm happy with them both.
Glad to hear that just enjoy what you got👍
I got both rx 6600/ryzen 5 3600 all new parts pc and a Series S
Why not get a PS5 instead for the exclusives though? You're basically just playing PC games with a gamepad on a series X (not knocking it or anything, great console).
We have the same pc 😂
you built an X1X
The ONLY thing I miss about Console gaming is the fact that games just work the 1st time and at launch. You really have to be your own Desktop Support Guy/Gal in order to get into PC gaming. That's something that's not talked about enough if at all. I was fortunate to have IT guys get me into PC gaming and helped me along my early days. Great video though.
youtube is your best friend for trying to figure shit out
@@slammedsandoval That's how I built my PC last year. 1st ever. Didn't have a clue. People still don't have the confidence to try. I get it. No one wants to spend money and break it etc. Glad I did. I got a decent Rig vs buying a prebuilt.
@@slammedsandoval That is definitely true. But I think the bigger picture is that a lot people don't want to deal with that. A lot of people just want to sit back and relax and enjoy their game. If you have to spend potentially hours trying to get a game to run on your PC because of some weird bug with Windows, the game, driver, software, or hardware, it can be incredibly frustrating to do that. By the time you're finished trying to fix the problem, you may already be frustrated and not want to play the game anymore. There's nothing like waiting for Windows to finish its updates at the most inconvenient of times only to find that it causes problems with a program you use regularly.
To be clear, I'm not saying that everyone is going to have problems playing PC games. But they are real potential issues that can arise with a PC that just don't exist with consoles. Just depends on what people are willing to tolerate. A gaming PC is still a computer that can still have the same issues a typical computer can have.
@@Xilent1is that decent rig better than the ps5 and xbox series x ? No its not unless you like mmos or cod
My decent rig is better than a PS5/XBSX. Not playing either of those games. BF2042, some RPGs some Action etc. Now the one in the video, maybe fits your description.
The advantage that the console has on the PC at the same price point, is that the games on console are optimized for that specific hardware that never changes. On the other hand PC spec varies so much that the optimization for that particular PC is left to the user.
Yup, that's also why PC games take a good year or two longer to come out than the same game on console. It takes way more time to get the game working correctly, with good performance and looking good when you have to test for so many different combinations of specs. And yet people _still_ don't understand and think that game companies do it on purpose in order to "trick" people into buying multiple copies of each game. That's just a fortunate side effect for the game developer/studio rather than their main goal.
What do you mean? Are you saying there are no hardware changes between PS5 and PS5 Pro? Or thr Series S and X?
They are different between them of course, but it is not as big as the variation you get in on PC's. Xbox series x or s are only two systems with specific hardware that barely change during the life of the generation.
@@asharohx lol yes. But developers dont have to optimize for millions of different hardware configurations. Thats not how it works.
A road doesnt have to be optimized for thousands of different cars, tired, engines and transmissions. Rather the car choices determine how the car performs on the road. Now if you have a shitty road with lots of potsholes, all cars will drive poorly there even the Ferraris. See the analogue?
@@GhoulSolo___ PS5 pro IS a thing. Google it.
And I work in IT. I do nothing but design software that has to run on a million different pieces of hardware. You use abstraction and libraries lol. You dont write old fashion machinecode. You program in languages that all hardware can understand. The hardwares power will just decide how well it will run it.
If you have a specific piece of hardware, yes you can optimize for it. That just means that you preset everything to a degree where you have tested it works.
Pc game optimalisation is done mostly by the user by picking low, medium or high settings....
Should have used the same peripherals for each, and then bought a $500 series x, and built a $500 PC. I'm curious to find out how that compares
There's plenty of videos like that. There's one titled something like "I built a 474$ xbox", had a pc for that price with the same performance as an xbox. They're pretty much the same, it just depends on whether you want to do some work on your pc or want it strictly for gaming/spotify/youtube. Performance wise they're pretty much the same, with the pc being slightly better (but it's also more of a pain in the ass to setup and to maintain unlike a console that's just plug and play)
Also, there's no need to get an xbox series x when on a budget monitor, since series s is exactly the same on a 1080p/1440p monitor and it'd make no sense to spend 200$ extra for the same performance
You can build a pc for 500 that compasres with ps5 and xbox series x, not that difficult..
@@miuletzmitzu6641 its not jsut resolution that changes. its Frame rates and general graphics. Street Fighter is one that comes to mind because it looks like ASS on series s.
@miuletzmitzu6641 you also have to think about the long run will the series s be able to keep up with newer gen games or not idk but the series x will for longer that's for sure
I dont know what it is, but these 2 are the best. Even though im fine with my integrated graphics, these people just help to entertain in everything
I also have integrated graphics
yooo 30 likes is crazy. thanks toasty
You should use same monitor, same headset, same keyboard and same mouse for both setups. And instead dock you should buy Series X for same price as PC.. That would be fair..
Same ish i said and play nee games like forxa and see how that plays out. They want to leave out “ these arent comparable cause the xbox series s can play new games “
either way a pc is still worse then a xbox x (800$ below, depends if you get a 3060 for a 800$ buld tho if not then then the xbox x is better
4070ti is where it’s at till 50s come out thing is console restricts everything and on pc u can play how u want
Great video! Love the comparison! I noticed on warzone on the series s the 120hz wasn't turned on. I play on a series x and it's way smoother on 120hz!
How do you turn it on
Go to settings and somewhere it says refresh rate. You can change it to 120hz @A_van_Biljon
Given that most people who are buying a console will already have a TV that they will be using it on, I think it would have been better to get a Series X for the comparison. The only downside to that is it would be harder to build a comparable PC for the same price
Definitely would have to rely on used parts, though I believe you can probably put together a setup with an old office PC upgraded with a better PSU and a good GPU pretty easily.
There is a clear winner, it’s obvious the console. It’s literally way cheaper with better performance and graphics. They literally said it performs and looks better at a cheaper price in the video.
They also tried to increase the budget of the PC by buying useless peripherals that were overpriced to up the cost of the console setup too. If they just used a ps5 digital or series x then it definitely would’ve killed the PC I’m almost every aspect. Badly too
your talking crap
@@JustMyFish he has a xbox and hasnt ever saw good graphics lol, these console gamers out here struggling with downscaled res in 1080p meanwhile im over here 200+ fps in warzone maxed out in 2k lmaoooooooo. The people who buy xboxs also buy those 4k tvs for their gaming when they literally output 1080p downscaled to 980p. btw in the pc world, 1080p has been dead since 2019, 50% of gamers are higher than that now id imagine. everyone i know is at least 1440p. ( if ur on a budget dont even compart ur console to a pc cause in some cases pcs have multiple parts that costs the same as a xbox and will outperform any xbox made in the next 15 years.
@@supayyt8294 can u buy a pc that gets 4k 120 fps for $500? no, no u cant.
the console is better but has less features
@@bruh5791 your not playing anything in 4k for $500. only 90 series cards handle 4k and brutha man they are between 800-2k depending on generation sooooooo
ur playing 1080p/720p and its "4k" to sell to dumb console players who dont whats inside the thing their buying??? u wanna screen share and compare some visuals because i bet u cant even play cyberpunk and it looks like real life on my system.
to add: even the newest gpu's, ex: the 4090 cant even run 4k well. nothing is running 4k native. it uses downscaling everywhere to get smoothness, dlss+ frame gen is hurting the final quality. 4k gaming just isnt here yet, it will be in 5+ years
Would be interested in a comparison between a $400 PC and a $400 PS5 digital
They got other ppl for that
But you get a free OS so that's $25. You get a free controller so that is $70. You get an hdmi 2.1 cord with a usb c to a. A free game too. So you are looking at $300 after the freebies.
@@jiggerypokery2962 There's way more to this discussion than that. It all boils down to whether you have PC experience or not. For 400$ I can build a pc that's better in performance, can install the OS for free, and I just bought a xbox series controller for 30$. Monitors always come with a hdmi cable so you don't need to buy anything other than controller, keyboard, mouse and headset (and there's plenty of decent mouse, keyboard and headset kits for 20-30$). So you're looking at spending 450$ on something that performs better. But if you have no PC knowledge or don't want to work that much for it and just want to plug in the machine and play then the console is the winner. Both have pros and cons. There's also the game pass being cheaper on pc (For xbox you need to pay 17$ to play online, for pc it's 10$ and you get the exact same things as on xbox) so you're looking at 70$ extra dollars PER YEAR for a console, the ability to mod games, and the ability to get games for free (fuck the publishers that don't adjust game prices based on region, in what world is it accepable to sell a game for 70$ in a country where the minimum wage is less than 300$?)
free os? dude windows costs 200 bucks, and sure piracy is a thing, but i thougt we were talking legal prices@@jiggerypokery2962
Hey. Have you done a video going over a full PC setup with peripherals for those who may be coming over from PS5 or Xbox Series X consoles?
This video does a really god job at highlighting the problems with prebuilt pcs.
Been watching for about a year and still good content
Yep they do. Weekend specials, actually. Extra spins if you play on Saturdays.
I’ve just switched to PC gaming, but I’m using it on the TV with a controller (and mini keyboard for opening up everything). I like to keep it as close to console gaming experience as I can, but I prefer the better graphics and frame rate. I would add that I don’t play competitive multiplayer games. Also games I’ve lost access to are still available on Steam etc which is a massive plus for me.
I would say for casual gamers, just get a console but for hardcore gamers I’d say PC. If you’re in between take your pick, both have pro’s and cons.
Mouse smoothing is turned on when playing on console by default I'm fairly sure its an option you have to turn off in the console settings to fix it (at least it was on PS5)
Wait what is mouth smoothing?
Bought an hp shell pc with 500gb hd and 16 gb ram with so many ports for $249 because I'm a nube :) from these guys and played FF7 remake so hard. I loved it. These guys are the realist pc builders. Spread the love. Oh use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard with a 55 inch tv and an xbox controller.
you use that pc setup on 55 inch tv??
@@bynxtypebeat 75" TV now but yeah ha. Play steam on my couch with an Xbox controller. Bought a USB adapter to make it wireless.
I own every console including vr and i decided to finally pull the trigger on a pc i spent 3300 for my entire build ryzen 9 7900x and rtx 4070ti …playing battlefield on ultra settings 1440p 144hz I’m getting up to 300 frs more or less. I’m still getting use to K&M but I’ve been loving it the pass week and building it myself was an experience 👌
I hope you enjoy it :)
If you’re looking to upgrade your setup I would invest in a 240hz monitor. It’s the smoothest and fastest you can get, especially since it sounds like you have money to spend on it.
The Ryzen 5300G is a very rare CPU only available with HP OEM prebuilts, probably would have been a bang for the buck if it was sold standalone.
There is no PC that you can build at $250 that can compete. I love PC gaming, but nothing is cheaper than consoles. I got a Series X brand new yesterday for $350 on Amazon and there is nothing that can compete at that price. If I had more money… I would go back to PC.
That's true. But the only reason the consoles are cheaper is because both Microsoft and Sony loose money per console they sell. They more or less recoup that cost with the online game service fees as well as their online stores and official accessories.
Awesome I'll log in this weekend then. Have you joined any of the live game shows? They're a blast and have unique bonuses
I bought a Lenovo 1080P (L24e-40) to use with my Series S. Love my setup!
That's cool. Do they have bonuses for wheel games too? I heard those can get pretty exciting
4:49 ive been loving my 14 inch laptop for years
It would be these guys taking a $300 budget console and spending a whole extra $300 on crap. They didn't even get the One TB extra storage......😢 something that would be actually useful!!!
Probably one of the worst comparisons on RUclips, it's clear they don't like console lol
They built their own strawman to make PC look better. Absurd.
I have an i3 12100f and rx 6600 8gb 16 gb ddr4 ram 1 terabyte ssd it was 800 dollar with windows 11
Good video. If you are on a budget I would recommend the PC hands down because with XBox you have to pay for XBL to play MP side of games and that cost on PC could be put towards better parts over time.
@dunix16 My very first PC was a custom build that I did for $700 that had a AMD FX-8150 and I ran that till 1st gen Ryzen CPUs game out.
I do PC gaming on what I call
"PC gaming on a console budget" where its the cost of the 1st console then after that its only the cost of PS+ or XBL cost that is used for the upgrades
But for free games such as cod warzone , fortnite and all free games don't need xbl (Known as xbox live) so if those are your main games the series s will do it well and u don't need to buy xbl but if you play paid games u need It's for ps5 too
But, if your paying 600 dollars or more get a custom pc or a gaming laptop as the ps5 is not worth it so it would be better to get a gaming laptop which uses an rtx 2090 or above as both are not customisable which I mean by you cannot add a 4090 in a laptop or game consoles but for pc u cannot get one with a 2090 or above
@dunix16 But for that price, you can't find a good gaming laptop or pc and used ones are your only option so thats why and also people still play on consoles only because they are used to it so if your used to playing
@dunix16 I'm not talking about you and I'm talking about everyone else and almost any laptop without an Intel celeron,centerion,pentium can run cs go and let's stop arguing now
Good to know I'm going to try out the late-night slots. There's a night owl bonus for playing after midnight
you can change the mouse sensitivity on the xbox in settings
Never a delay in bet recalculations at 4ra, they keep it so professional
I should check that out. Been eyeing the roulette games. There's something about that spinning wheel
before i even start the video, ill put in my 2 cents as someone whos last console was a ps3 and have been building pcs for 24 years... if the only purpose of your device is gaming and maybe some streaming platforms, get a console... if you want to do more than watch movies or play games, even a used prebuilt with a few upgrades can handle almost anything you guys throw at it, as you guys have demonstrated time and again
after the video, i do agree with your conclusions, to each their own... but i will continue to be a pc guy for 4 reasons... upgradability, beyond just a storage drive... the ability to multitask is vastly easier... the sheer amount of software and mods a pc can run vs a console... and im cheap(ish), i pay for internet every month and an occasional game, i refuse to pay 10 to 15 dollars a month for a service to play the games i already paid for with my friends
loving the content keep up the great work!
You didn’t give the Xbox a fair chance on warzone you didn’t have 120fps enabled
I'm loveing this new content man it really hits the spot I'm 25 wanting to move to Colorado with my family in Loveland I really love seeing your adventures and just you smokeing on the dayley I want to start up RUclips so bad but suffer from social anxiety I'm a full time user and a full time watcher love your content you got me into heady glass when I was 19 I'll never not watch🎉
Totally And if you're into crash games, they have daily bonuses. I won some free plays yesterday
Been subscribed for only a short time and have been enjoying the content. This 'challenge' was amusing, no doubt that with deep pockets a superior setup is PC. But try and be fair. If your cost point is $600 you really needed to #1. Require NEW product only. No Used, period. #2. Buy the Xbox Series X or PS5. #3 Same monitor for both configs. Obviously the consoles would win with these restrictions. BTW I game on PC (30+ years), on console (20+ years) and smartphone (2 years). Keep up the great work guys!
Oh nice! I was actually looking at their welcome bonus. It's pretty generous. Got some extra cash to play with
7:36 Wam really got me there 😂
Jonah always doin something extra 😂
always🫡
This is like a setup I would do pc for me and Xbox series s or x or ps5 for my brother but maybe two different tables or one big one so we can game together
Series x $400 with Diablo 4 and $50gc at multiple stores . If a person is considering either guess what they have a tv! Plug it in, play. The series S wins this because it’s now $200 … it’s $200 and no driver drama, no components for this and that. If someone is truly on a budget and just wants a fun experience for gaming the series S would be the pick 95/100 times
sure it is! Love how 4RBT offers so many deposit options, fits anyone's preference
I'm glad this came out today 😂 I have my Series S on top of my One. Probably not the greatest. I think I'm getting the stand or at least requesting that and the headset.
😊😊the whole reason I gave up computer gaming (besides the buying new parts every couple months to play the latest games) is that with a controller I can sit in my easy chair and game on my 50” tv and enjoy life. I get those that spend a lot of money on a pc not wanting to buy a console just to play the games but I’m of the opinion that all Xbox games should be mandatory controller so everyone is working with the same input device.
I haven’t bought pc parts in over a year and I can still play every game I want no issues then I can swap to my 55” tv and grab my x box pad and still play from bed if I like I still have an x box but it’s not been turned on in a long long time no need for it
You do know you can plug your PC into a TV and use a controller on it, right? That’s not exactly a console “exclusive” feature.
@@theitechlab exactly the only down side is you can’t play UFC on pc that’s literally the only reason I still have a console for the rare times I wanna go on ufc 😂 and parts last years and years lmao there’s options to upgrade but you wouldn’t need to every few months load of 💩 😂
In fact you could probably have a 3-4 year old computer and it could still be better than console performance wise
Genuinely how were you buying new parts every few months
I have been thru the ps and xbox roll coaster. What I want that only the PC gives is options with games like mods. Consoles are allowing some modding but even at that your mod selection will be restricted. In mod capacity and types of mods.
Ive got both of these, the same HP, however I have a ryzen 5 3500, and originally came with a 1650 supe which I ended up upgrading to a 4060 for a good fit and low power usage, and a series s, I play on the pc a lot more, and it is honestly a good pc, other than having a proprietarty mobo and psu, but would recommend this desktop for anyone wanting to get into pc gaming
guys they did two pcs setup and thought i wouldnt notice
I’m looking into building the Toasty Bros budget PC.
Is there any reason that would advise against hooking up a PC to a newer tv instead of a monitor?
I have a 65” Samsung 4K , and I like playing on a couch 😂
It has plenty of ports on it, so why not?
Those are the exact headphones i am using right now. I originally got them for my xbox one but they have worked perfectly for my PC.
Bread approves
For the Xbox set up did you go to settings then to general and then to tv display settings and change the refresh rate? That could of helped with your compare testing. 😁 Also did you get the get app to for controller mapping cause you could change the analog sticks for sensitivity! 😁 I use it all the time for my elite series 2 controller for every game when I button map!and you can store up to 150 of them I think!
I got mo series s on the market place with 2 controllers for $140, a PC could not beat that at all, but if I could afford a PC I would go for a PC over a console anu day.
I think the console setup is the winner here. Better monitor and peripherals deals. But the pc setup is good too having a great upgradability. I will definitely change the brand of monitor on that pc setup.
I feel like what the console gains in peripheral deals it loses with the cost of XBOX Live. With the PC setup you do end up spending that money you save from not having XBL on upgrades, but it's something that's actually improving your experience rather than just being online play.
I have a pc and all consoles I love em all. Pc needs a little more love. But I enjoy having many options for games lol.
Even though I have a good pc. I will still always enjoy the simplicity of just plugging the Xbox and playing.
The fps counter for warzone is in the interface settings.
Tough choice both are impressive for the price. But would have to go with PC. You can do and get more out of it in the long run.
same, at the end of the day it just depends on your uses for it. I'm someone who uses microsoft office and who likes to mod games, so i'll always stick with a pc. But for someone who just wants to turn on their machine and play/listen to some music? Then console has some great pros for that, just turn it on and immediatly game without any errors or issues
Do what you feel is most fun. Whether it be the Nintendo Switch or the top of the line PlayStation. If it's fun to you, that's what counts. Don't worry about impressing other people. Because that's expensive!
I have an Xbox Series X. I have a PC with a rx6800 video card that I bought for $100 less than a brand new Xbox. And it hurt to spend that much. But virtual reality is demanding.
The Xbox does great! Especially with a 55 inch OLED with HDMI 2.1.
My PC is mostly used for VR. But Steam often has good sales. It eats everything I throw at it and smiles back.
If you want to micromanage each setting, or want to bling it out with RGB a PC might be for you.
If you like to turn on the TV and console and be ready to play in 30 seconds, a console maybe for you.
But like I said at the top of this comment, do what makes you happy.
I appreciate the video, but it would have been better to showcase how the PC has frame-gen options, like lossless scaling and showing off tricks that are available to the PC side, like tweaking settings.
Choose one should i get a xbox setup or pc setup
Series X is only $350 now too. Hard to beat that price.
I paid somewhere around 1400 for my pc, and I played on the Xbox series x for a while, and if your playing on console I highly recommend getting a monitor, i played on a tv on console and got a monitor for the Xbox, but once I started getting used to the monitor I improved in every game I play. If you’re looking for a more serious gaming experience I would get a pc, but if your playing on console and play on a tv, I would get a monitor no matter what.
PC has no forced pay to play online. The the forced paywall is why I see most people move away from console. It does get expensive having to pay to play online every month. Over so many months of forced to pay to play online, you basically pay for a PC. I think Xbox and Playstation both charge around $10 a month so that's $120 a year, yes you can buy a yearly card for cheaper but either way you have to include the monthly charge to compare it to PC.
Never miss a game with 4RA, their site and app just never crash, so stable
I could not choose. What do you think is better? Buy xBox X or upgrade to RTX 3070 for my PC
Can you do this but with a built PC with a budget of let's say $600-700 vs console .. curious to know how a built PC will do
For $600-$700, you can build quite a decent AM4 or even low end AM5 system.
@@jamesyoung151hell no lol forza will make it crash 😂
Main difference is pc is 2nd hand and console is brand new with warranty which make huge difference some times.
The test you missed was using a controller on both setups. Myself the reason I haven’t pc gamed is the keyboard and mouse. Physically they are harder to use for me.
I would have gone with a less expensive office PC with that GPU. Getting the cost of the PC down by even 50 dollars by going something with an older CPU would have given you room for a pair of Koss kph30i's (Great pair of headphones with a decent inline mic) and an 8BitDo controller
The best form of marketing is giving a good price firstly.
So i could have a console setup and still use KBM?? Is there bad delay? because watching their gameplay on console the delay didn’t seem that bad.
The video was cool, i enjoy these but what you don't mention is online subscription with consoles. Or did it change? Adding the life of a console, 4 to 7 years right? That 60 dollars a year or more adds up real fast.
Any recommendations for a 1440p 144hz+ monitor for around £150?
2nd hand
Picked up a ryzen 3 4100 gtx 1070 16gb ddr4 for 275 and ive been more than satisfied with it gave my series s to my nephew
Love you video keep up the good work
should've went for something more graphics heavy for a better comparison
what do u guys do with all ur random pc's u build/buy?
Great challenge!!!
got my wife to switch from an xbox one to a PC, she loves it. Shes just got a R5 3600x and a rx 6600 i got for $80 cause the HDMI port didn't work.
I have a series x. I'm interested in the series s cause I'm wondering what's the catch? If it still plays new games then it's probably still a great deal. Even if the graphics and performance isn't as good.
I don't think you'd have to buy extra accessories for a console besides battery packs.
The downside is that the Series S is a digital only console. So if you want a game there's no buying a second hand disc.
The only 2 downsides are slightly worse graphics (which to a casual gamer is barely noticeable. I've been playing videogames for 15 years now and watched a comparasion video, the difference was so small most of the time I couldn't see it until the zoomed in and pointed it out) and it being digital. The catch is microsoft and sony sell those consoles at a loss, what they're making money off is you buying games from them/game passes.
It plays games far worse than the series X. Don’t listen to people that say things run great on it. With newer games the S runs really poor. Terrible frame drops, low res. It’s going to get way worse next year with unreal engine 5 titles or anything on a modern game engine. Get an X for 400$. I have an X and an S. There’s a huge difference.
The bread approved so i approve as well.
I noticed you tested the setups with 2 multi-player only games. Did you remember to include the cost of gamepass in with the Xbox build? At $10/month for the basic subscription over, say a 5 year lifespan, adds an additional $600 to the cost of the console. This is a cost the pc does not share.
Something to point out too, is you can use a computer for work and school, at the same price point.
People are always saying that pc is better than console, we know they are literally comparing a 400 dollar consoles to a pc thats over a 1000 dollars, if u compare a 600 ps5 to a 600 pc, ps5 would better much better.
I have a Xbox series s and want to get a pc and I’m getting it for Christmas from my parents but I won’t be paying for Xbox ultimate as I family share so I won’t be able to play Xbox games on my pc and will only be able to play steam games but don’t have the money to spend on many games should I upgrade my Xbox or buy the pc?
You won't be able to play any games you're purchased on the Xbox on PC. But game pass is 100% on PC and you can play all the games through the game pass PC. Everything from Halo, Forza, all the EA games etc all work on PC
do you guys wire all your setup vids
"Comes with blue switches" *screams from hell* "sounds pretty nice" 😭
1 thing that makes console better, coming from a newly 4060 owner! $499 to play triple A games for at least 10 years before thinking about upgrading, pc you want to upgrade every 3 months!
Why didnt you guys use the victus 15L with the 5600g and 6400 amd ? That set up is better than the old hp at the same price you paid.
If you’re on a budget the series s is definitely the way to go. Used mine pretty heavily for a year with my 4k smart tv and it was a great experience. The fact that you can play all of the newest games out of the box makes it worth it alone. Just get the Xbox and save money for a better PC.
I think comparing PC and console is kinda hard because a pc is a workstation a console is a gaming machine
a PC is what ether you want it to be a console is just a console.
I have a Xbox series s and even though you guys used a 1080p monitor and thought the consoles might down scale resolution it doesn’t too much. I used a 1440p monitor and it looks the same and even better of course because it was 1440p.
Great video guys
I bought a Lenovo legion gaming computer and it was on sale from 3000 aud to 2000 aud with 4k gaming with average for 200 fps and if you run 1080p it will be 400 fps and 1440p 350 fps. In the computer there is a 4070ti and a i9 CPU with lots of fans. Do you think this was a good deal?
I get 120 solid on Xbox in that y’all have a setting on I don’t have on it may dip to 115 sometimes but mostly 120
The head set works on pc
With how good consoles are these days the only real benefit to having a budget pc over a console is if you want to play pc only games or don't want to pay to play online
I wish we can use the x box as a pc because it’s built for gaming and we can connect a mouse and keyboard word the x box can just be used as a power house
Bro is there a script behind the camera I can see your eyes going to the side of the camera for the X box