I still can’t believe that Tigerhawk soloed the entire predacons and TRANSMETAL 2 MEGATRON. Heck Tigerhawk even took all but megs out of the picture with ONE ATTACK
Yeah he is the most OP Character in terms of Offense. Rampage is Obviously a different kind of OP, though there is something he might have going for him.
Couple thoughts. Rattrap: he used the tail more like a whip/fishing pole. He used the rim shield once to block Megs tail blast. He still uses explosive charges. "Pop goes the crab cake." Primal: he can still fight in hoverboard mode. He grappled midair with Megatron at one point. Silverbolt: he could only carry one person at a time, shorties like Blackarachnia or Rattrap. TM2 Cheetor: he flew briefly in The Nemesis pt 1.
I figured the evidence that going Transmetal wasn’t a massive upgrade was the fact that Dinobot stayed a heavy hitter despite not getting upgraded. Remember how quickly Megatron jumped at the opportunity to get Dinobot back on his side? He wouldn’t have given a traitor a second chance if Dinobot wasn’t a massive potential asset.
I don't know if he actually jumped at it, more he felt like playing. It's clear all the way up till he's trying to make Dinobot Kill Rattrap that he doesn't actually believe Dinobot is switching sides back.
“Wonder what a Transmetal Fuzor would be like?” Now I’m picturing some rhino/ankylosaur Fuzor with a tank alt-mode. What would his name be? Slaphorn? Riotgear? Shieldor?
I also vaguely recall Rattrap using his demolition charges in season 2, but I don't remember the episode. The Transart TM Rattrap has that feature. Since that figure was your figure of the year, you should definitely review it someday.
I swear, there was one episode in season two where Rattrap actually used his demolition charges, but he only used them once and never again (for some reason)
Rattrap used the shield in the first or second episode he got the upgrade in to block some shots, and he still has his arm charges, he uses one to gas Waspinator, and to blow up Ravage I believe Edit: He sticks them to Tarantulas's hands and blows up Ravages ship with them
I've read somewhere that the reason Optimus got his ass knocked out of the fight in Season 3 was mostly due to the fact it took a while to develop Megatron's dragon mode. Plus Tigerhawk was done DIRTY, all because his fucking toy got canned at the last minute, even though they tried to undo it, he was already killed off and spared the horrors of Beast Machines.
It is very strange that because they thought the Toy was going to be Discontinued they were like "Kill him off in the Last Episode", though I do think it makes his character even more tragic.
I always assumed there was a touch of Transmetal in Fuzors. Not full, but wasn't it the blast that made them Transmetals that affected Quickstrike and Silverbolt's pods? I also always figured Megatron's work with the TM2 driver was enough to turn him into a Transmetal 2. Like residual radiation.
No Quickstrike and Silverbolt were just in a Radiocative Area, that's what broke their scanners. He didn't use the TM2 Driver, her absorbed G1 Megatron's Spark.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yes, he didn't use it to turn into a T2 directly, I'm just saying I always assumed due to the Macguffin nature of it, I can see his using it earlier in the season imbuing him with radiation that was later triggered by G1 Megatron's spark.
Hey now, rattrap's tail ALSO was used as a conductor for the Ark's engines that it could not handle the ampacity of- oh wait...yeah, his tail weapon was pretty useless lol
I just remembered, TM Cheetor has a missile launching rifle he only uses in one episode, he misses with it and takes out Optimal Optimus instead of Waspinator (Feral Scream pt 1) the missile is in his colors making me think it really is his gun.
I swear you are making the best Transformers Figure videos on youtube, but a search for Transformers reviews doesn't even pull up your channel. Injustice! Great work as always. Do you have any insight on possible new figures that will have a surprise combiner mode, kind of like Junkasuarus? RUclips Bump this guy up please!!!
If I had to guess why optimal Optimus isn’t a transmetal 2 but dragon megatron is, it’s because of when the toys came out. Megatron came out in 1999, the same year the other tm2s came out, while Optimus came out in 1998, the year of the tm1s. Depth charge’s toy also came out in 1998.
There's also being dunked in lava. Megatron could had been melting during that upgrade and he also could had soaked in some Transmetal Driver energy before he took G1 Megatron's Spark
@@PerspectiveEndok. Just one question: will you do a review for Legacy Detritus? He’s one of three transformers I have, and one of them is Studio series Optimus
This might not change things much but Cheetor’s tail weapon wasn’t a whip. In the show the tail would become completely straight and become more of a spiked club.
It makes sense then that Rhinox stays on the sidelines more and more throughout the series once the supermen and demigods start roaming the battlefield. Unfortunately, Waspinator is neither as wise, nor at the mercy of such an understanding leader.
Woo! Been waiting on this! Never realized how Cheetor being stuck on the ground was an improvement, but given how he never got used to flight, yeah...he did have some weird development.
We do see cheetor in his transmetal 1 body using a sniper but I think this is a Weapon he got from the base rather than in built weaponry. We see dinobot get extra weapons in coming of the fuzors, that’s likely where megatron got that Double barrel shotgun that one time aswell
If I were judging purely by design/appearance, the only character that was improved by the transmatal upgrades was Megatron. Specifically, his TM1 body since he had two functional hands, could fly, and had less kibble. Obviously, I'm not counting characters who were transmetal to begin with. There're all cool.
Do you think rampage was the inspiration for transmetal 2. He can attack in both modes and has curuits and flesh visible in both modes to. And the first transmetal two was created using his spark
So from what I got the top 3 are Optimal Optimus, Tigerhawk, and Depth Charge, makes sense, also, yes, still waiting for a new Depth Charge, idk why I like this guy so much I just do
Yeah the Top 3 on this faction for sure. Tigerhawk is Probably the most powerful, but again that changes depending on his connection to the Vok, and Depthcharge is OP for a Grunt, though he'd need that to fight Rampage.
Ratraps section is inaccurate his shield did block some of Megatrons blast in early season 2 he also did use his charges against rampage once I think in the agenda but don't quote me on it but otherwise great video
Question of the comments. if you can pick one Power Rangers megazord to be given the Transformers treatment which one would you pick? By transforms treatment you could still transform into either an original robot mode or an existing robot mode just with more possibility my pic would be the battlefleet megazord from operation overdrive a.k.a. DaiVoyager it looks like an autobot version of tidal wave from transformers armada.
There actually was one like that already! The Rescue Megazord. It was like my FAVORITE Megazord of all time because of that. If I have to pic a new one, I mean I gotta go with either the Mighty Morphin, or the In Space Megazords.
I always thought transmetal was like an upgrade kit or like those battle passes in fortnite or in New modern games (which I hate). You know when you level up or buy your way (like an idiot IMO) and you get a new skin(s), emotes, voice lines, game coins and other item no one cares about. I also thought rattrap used a whip. Lastly glad you're doing this again
I mean I think I know, but I've never really played any of those games. And yeah but don't expect too many of them. I have enough characters for 1 more video, but that will be every BW character in the show.
@PerspectiveEnd Dang. I got flagged for spam and scamming for linking tfwiki in my reply. The transmetals page discusses how the cannon mode was something mainframe came up with as a workaround to Kenner not giving the TMs ranged weapons
Do you think this show hated bumblebee. We don’t see him on the ark. He’s never mentioned. And unlike some others there are no toys that used his name.
I think Bumblebee was probably just unlucky. Like they needed Megatron and Optimus, then Starscream was made earlier in the season for other reasons, and they probably just quick made the first two Autobots who came to mind to fill out the ship, so Prowl and Ironhide, and Bumblebee just didn't luck out.
They are harder to judge because G1 was less serious than Beast Wars, so what happened in each episode was allowed to contradict what came before, and most people were supposed to be grunt level, so like 6 out of 10s would be the most normal stat.
The Dragonball reference is definitely appropriate. The transformations have a limited but also broad application. TM1 was fine. It more or less gave a fast travel perk to certain members. No more episodes like "Fallen Comrades" (I liked the episodes, but the fact Megs can cover the distance in 5 min the others took all episode to reach really stretches that disbelief) TM2 like in DB and DBZ, it feels like more thought was put into it and this is the more refined version. (Like Super Sayin 1 is just temper tantrum unlocked, but by SS2 there were rules, conditions and drawbacks since it was no longer a pocket deus ex machina. But it also slipped in the explanation department. Depth Charge comes in automatically as a TM2. Why? Bat-Manta has to fight the Joker on equal footing so instant upgrade. But Dinobot 2 needs a driver to access TM2. Why? So Cheetor has an explanation for hulking out into a TM2 version. Rather than the transformation nonsense I would have had a spectrum. At one end you have fully organic entity (Gaia) and at the other end you have fully synthetic (Machina). S1 Beasties sit on the Gaia side, Beast Machine Vehicons on the Machina side and transmetals range between.
Depthcharge isn't a Transmetal 2. You can tell because he's not Asymmetrical, which is the defining feature of Transmetal 2, along with the lost of the Vehicle modes, which Depthcharge had. He was a Transmetal 1.
Not related to power levels, but I wish that the other 4 additional Beast Wars characters and other 8 Transmetals of Season 1 get Kingdom era figures, like a Deluxe Quickstrike, a Voyager Depth Charge, a Leader Rampage, a Voyager Dinobot II, a Voyager TM Optimus Primal, a Leader/Commander Optimal Optimus, a Deluxe TM Cheetor, a Voyager TMII Cheetor, a Deluxe TM Rattrap, a Leader TM Megatron, a Deluxe TM Tarantulas, and a Deluxe TMII Blackarachnia.
Hang in there. I think Hasbro will pause for Transformers 40th, but following (or maybe during) they'll resume and get around to some Transmetals. At least TM Rattrap, Cheetor and Tarantulas.
Given that Tigerhawk came at the cost of a solid mid-range and an mvp it's good that the result is a powerhouse. Otherwise it would be like trading Gohan and Krillin for Yamcha fresh off a wrecking. Still, Tigerhawk holds one of the top spot records for most messed up origin story, in my opinion. Would have been entertaining if the romantic bonds of their two comprising bots manifested as catty narcissism in retrospect.
Why is the Option that you trade 2 goods for one Terrible? Wouldn't it be more like trading 2 goods for a Tien at worst? Oh yeah, Tigerhawk is absolutely one of the most horrific things they did to any character.
@@PerspectiveEnd What the Vok did to Airrazor is worse than anything Bay could do to her, and that's saying something. The Vok are the worst in all timelines by proxy. Still, a pity we didn't get to explore the character that came from her and Tigertron's fused sparks more than as a powerhouse living macguffin.
I have but it feels less necessary for them, as the rules were either less defined for each of them, or they are all a lot closer. Like in G1 most of the characters are probably going to be like a 5 or 6 out of 10 in all stats.
I'm sad that both terrorsuar and scorponok never got their transmetal forms in the show They had to die right before they got it. I wonder if they would have been useful if they had them in the show
Why would quickstrike possibly count as a transmetal fuzor, I mean I think I see some metal on his beast mode but that could also just be grey scales or carapace
Thank you so much for the comment. And possibly. I'm not sure. Their Sluge and Swoop are tempting me, but I kind of want to see what the whole team looks like together.
To a Robot? Because they are made of metal. Blunt damage is more effective against armor, since you aren't trying to penetrate it, you are just transferring the force to what ever's behind the armor.
An fun and interesting video, but I'm not gonna lie, you lost me on Rattrap. With the smaller shield, I mostly remember his first fight with Megs, and honestly, it wasn't bad. Considoring it shielded him from Meg's arm cannon shots. And as for "loosing detonator charges" What are you talking about? He still has them in use. The time he planted bombs inside Ravage's ship (or more specificly, on Tarantulas hands) Or the time he saved Silverbolt by bouth fooling, and "glithing" Waspinator with one of them.
I don't remember him using them, the Transarts toy has them, but that's just a reference to his older form as far as I remember. I obviously didn't rewatch the whole show to make this video, but I do watch it at least once every two years or so. You are right about that with Ravages ship though. But I don't think we see where he gets them.
Yeah, Crazyedemu is right, I know she's a Maximal but this video was going to be like 14 or 15 minutes long and the Predacons without her would have been like 8, so I moved her over to them since "She may be good but she still bad" and it was her original faction in the show and all... Well the original one we see her as at least. And thank you!
Didn't watch it. Seems pointless. Frieza can blow up a planet with 1 hand, so it's moronic to put him against Megatron a guy who uses a Gun. They aren't even remotely on the same power level. Radditz would probably be a Threat to Megatron.
@@PerspectiveEnd they do bring in his IDW powers and the feats of durability from Cybertron getting moved back. It's a pretty fair fight and the animation is beautiful.
Nothing is more powerful than a Maximal in a firefight with one minute left in the episode
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I still can’t believe that Tigerhawk soloed the entire predacons and TRANSMETAL 2 MEGATRON. Heck Tigerhawk even took all but megs out of the picture with ONE ATTACK
Yeah he is the most OP Character in terms of Offense. Rampage is Obviously a different kind of OP, though there is something he might have going for him.
Couple thoughts.
Rattrap: he used the tail more like a whip/fishing pole. He used the rim shield once to block Megs tail blast. He still uses explosive charges.
"Pop goes the crab cake."
Primal: he can still fight in hoverboard mode. He grappled midair with Megatron at one point.
Silverbolt: he could only carry one person at a time, shorties like Blackarachnia or Rattrap.
TM2 Cheetor: he flew briefly in The Nemesis pt 1.
I think Blackarachnia was helping Cheetor fly somehow in that episode, cause it only happened once
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I figured the evidence that going Transmetal wasn’t a massive upgrade was the fact that Dinobot stayed a heavy hitter despite not getting upgraded. Remember how quickly Megatron jumped at the opportunity to get Dinobot back on his side? He wouldn’t have given a traitor a second chance if Dinobot wasn’t a massive potential asset.
I don't know if he actually jumped at it, more he felt like playing. It's clear all the way up till he's trying to make Dinobot Kill Rattrap that he doesn't actually believe Dinobot is switching sides back.
Yeah
It wasn’t really a big difference
i noticed youre uploading one hour later than you used to
I do not not. It's at 5 AM, it's always been 5AM. Do you perhaps live somewhere they don't do Daylight Savings Time?
@@PerspectiveEnd it’s daylight savings time for me
@@PerspectiveEnd it’s daylight savings time for me
@@PerspectiveEndit's 7 AM for me. But also I live in the land of Florida
Strange. California Technically got rid of it, but we haven't made the switch yet.
“Wonder what a Transmetal Fuzor would be like?” Now I’m picturing some rhino/ankylosaur Fuzor with a tank alt-mode. What would his name be? Slaphorn? Riotgear? Shieldor?
I feel like Slaphorn is too silly, maybe Sledghorn. Riotgear is also cool.
After a thousand years, another beast wars power scale video
Truly blessed you are this day.
I also vaguely recall Rattrap using his demolition charges in season 2, but I don't remember the episode. The Transart TM Rattrap has that feature. Since that figure was your figure of the year, you should definitely review it someday.
I swear, there was one episode in season two where Rattrap actually used his demolition charges, but he only used them once and never again (for some reason)
I don't remember that but you may be right.
@@PerspectiveEnd I would have to recheck the episode though
I think that was the season 2 finale where ravage was introduced where rattrap used the demo charges on tarantulus
He at least used them on ravage’s ship and also that gas bomb he used on waspinator when he was pretending to be quickstrike
I still stand by that the cast took until season 3 for characters to get on Rhinox’s level, and only a few outclassed him
I mean Rhinox had no HOPE against Rampage in season 2 but yeah he is one on the most dangerous characters for the longest time.
@@PerspectiveEndRampage was gonna be too much for almost anyone
to be fair on the episode where dinobot clone is made cheetor takes out megatron for a second
I mean accidents happen. Sometimes they are good for people.
Cheetor can fire the weapon with just one hand, as seen in "Other Visits Pt 2".
I just scrubbed through it but I couldn't find what you are talking about.
@@PerspectiveEndI believe it happened around 16 minutes in try if you can find it
Rattrap used the shield in the first or second episode he got the upgrade in to block some shots, and he still has his arm charges, he uses one to gas Waspinator, and to blow up Ravage I believe
Edit: He sticks them to Tarantulas's hands and blows up Ravages ship with them
Cheetors claws count same with dinobot two’s, the main selling point of transmetals is that they are battle ready in both modes
I don't know that I would count them equally effective.
“Wonder if you can have a transmetal fuzor” *proceeds to ignore Tigerhawk*
I don't know if Tigerhawk counts as one.
@@PerspectiveEndyeah he’s a transmetal 2 fuzor
I've read somewhere that the reason Optimus got his ass knocked out of the fight in Season 3 was mostly due to the fact it took a while to develop Megatron's dragon mode.
Plus Tigerhawk was done DIRTY, all because his fucking toy got canned at the last minute, even though they tried to undo it, he was already killed off and spared the horrors of Beast Machines.
It is very strange that because they thought the Toy was going to be Discontinued they were like "Kill him off in the Last Episode", though I do think it makes his character even more tragic.
I glad Cheetor got some level of respect from you.
It just took a couple upgrades to stop being useless.
I always assumed there was a touch of Transmetal in Fuzors. Not full, but wasn't it the blast that made them Transmetals that affected Quickstrike and Silverbolt's pods?
I also always figured Megatron's work with the TM2 driver was enough to turn him into a Transmetal 2. Like residual radiation.
No Quickstrike and Silverbolt were just in a Radiocative Area, that's what broke their scanners.
He didn't use the TM2 Driver, her absorbed G1 Megatron's Spark.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yes, he didn't use it to turn into a T2 directly, I'm just saying I always assumed due to the Macguffin nature of it, I can see his using it earlier in the season imbuing him with radiation that was later triggered by G1 Megatron's spark.
I don’t think the toy designs for the transmetals had weapons in mind, that’s why everyone has Less powerful and less conventional weapons
That would make a lot of sense.
Hey now, rattrap's tail ALSO was used as a conductor for the Ark's engines that it could not handle the ampacity of- oh wait...yeah, his tail weapon was pretty useless lol
Indeed. All it represents is his castration by both the show and Blackarachnia.
Geez, it's been one year since the first one, and 11 months since the second one, good video all the same no matter how late it comes, good job man. 👍
I just remembered, TM Cheetor has a missile launching rifle he only uses in one episode, he misses with it and takes out Optimal Optimus instead of Waspinator (Feral Scream pt 1) the missile is in his colors making me think it really is his gun.
I mean it was a Missile in Feral Scream, he hit's Waspinator I think with it.
Variety content returns
Appealing to the powerscaling fans too
Apparently not considering no one watched this, but I'm still happy to do it.
Last night I researched season 2 episode 1, and Rattrap did block Megatron's blasts with his shield.
Really? I don't remember that, but glad to hear you are watching the show. Even if it means you now prove me wrong.
@@PerspectiveEnd You can find the whole show upscaled in 4K on RUclips.
I finally subscribed. My interest in transformers comes and goes but when I am into transformers I come back to your videos.
I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for deciding to stick with me so long as your Transformers Interest Remains.
I swear you are making the best Transformers Figure videos on youtube, but a search for Transformers reviews doesn't even pull up your channel. Injustice! Great work as always. Do you have any insight on possible new figures that will have a surprise combiner mode, kind of like Junkasuarus?
RUclips Bump this guy up please!!!
I see you really wanted me to see this comment. I've sent a response to the one on the Wolffang video. Thank you for the comments.
It's over 9000!!!!
Well for cheetor it's under 0.009
I love this power levels you make
I'm glad the audience really loves these.
I love the idea of this video and discussion on it. The character cards and original artwork were a great touch!
Thank you, The Backing Cards where Hoovy's work, but I was super happy with the idea to actually use the normal card backs.
If I had to guess why optimal Optimus isn’t a transmetal 2 but dragon megatron is, it’s because of when the toys came out. Megatron came out in 1999, the same year the other tm2s came out, while Optimus came out in 1998, the year of the tm1s. Depth charge’s toy also came out in 1998.
But wouldn't that mean that he had more time for them to come up with a logical mode for him like Optimus's?
There's also being dunked in lava. Megatron could had been melting during that upgrade and he also could had soaked in some Transmetal Driver energy before he took G1 Megatron's Spark
I love these!! Thanks for bringing this back!
Happy to do it, the next one will be the last for Beast Wars at least.
@@PerspectiveEndok. Just one question: will you do a review for Legacy Detritus? He’s one of three transformers I have, and one of them is Studio series Optimus
Rattrap did too have his demo charges. When he stuck one on Rampage in season 3
Really sad Tigerhawk died so quickly, he has one of my fav designs in the show. Also, still waiting for those Transmetal 1 Chug figures.
We only see dealth charge fly in robot mode once, so it could be an animation error
Potentially yes.
This might not change things much but Cheetor’s tail weapon wasn’t a whip. In the show the tail would become completely straight and become more of a spiked club.
I suppose you are correct. I never really thought of it like that.
I've been waiting for this, and it delivered
I'm proud to hear that.
It makes sense then that Rhinox stays on the sidelines more and more throughout the series once the supermen and demigods start roaming the battlefield. Unfortunately, Waspinator is neither as wise, nor at the mercy of such an understanding leader.
I mean to be fair Waspinator is UNKILLABLE so he is something of a Demigod.
i kinda find it funny how waspinator always completely beats silverbolt in like all interactions
I mean Waspinator just has better stats.
Woo! Been waiting on this! Never realized how Cheetor being stuck on the ground was an improvement, but given how he never got used to flight, yeah...he did have some weird development.
As a longtime Depthcharge fan, this pleases me.
We do see cheetor in his transmetal 1 body using a sniper but I think this is a Weapon he got from the base rather than in built weaponry. We see dinobot get extra weapons in coming of the fuzors, that’s likely where megatron got that Double barrel shotgun that one time aswell
You are describing a logorithmic scale.
As Megatron said about transmetals 1: "New packaging, same product"
Is the product a good one?
@@PerspectiveEnd Not according to Megatron, he called Rattrap and Cheetor losers directly after that quote
Rattrap used his demolition charges to kill Ravage while in Transmetal form
I don't remember seeing where he pulls those out from.
If I were judging purely by design/appearance, the only character that was improved by the transmatal upgrades was Megatron. Specifically, his TM1 body since he had two functional hands, could fly, and had less kibble.
Obviously, I'm not counting characters who were transmetal to begin with. There're all cool.
Which is funny cause I know some people who TRULY hate the way that Megatron Looks in the TM1 upgrade.
LIKE: Given
Thank you Kind Vegeta.
@@PerspectiveEnd A pleasure as always to serve!
i liked too!
What a coincidence, I watched the first video just last night
As beast wars, mega Tron would say is it yyeessss
Glad to hear you enjoyed.
Very well done.
Thank you!
Can't wait to watch the other half!
Do you think rampage was the inspiration for transmetal 2. He can attack in both modes and has curuits and flesh visible in both modes to. And the first transmetal two was created using his spark
Nah, Transmetal twos as part of their definition have to be asymmetrical, which rampage isn't.
@@PerspectiveEnd I said Insparation not that he actually is one
at this point wrap cheetor in bubble wrap
Great video.
Thanks, I always worry these are too simple looking.
This videos are always intresting! I am eager for the Predacons!
About rattrap anddemo charges. He still have them and used them in the show and have same storages as in his original form. So yeah.
So from what I got the top 3 are Optimal Optimus, Tigerhawk, and Depth Charge, makes sense, also, yes, still waiting for a new Depth Charge, idk why I like this guy so much I just do
Yeah the Top 3 on this faction for sure. Tigerhawk is Probably the most powerful, but again that changes depending on his connection to the Vok, and Depthcharge is OP for a Grunt, though he'd need that to fight Rampage.
I practice waspinator supremacy
As you should.
Ratraps section is inaccurate his shield did block some of Megatrons blast in early season 2 he also did use his charges against rampage once I think in the agenda but don't quote me on it but otherwise great video
I think considering that depth charge can fight underwater, can fly, and fight on the ground depth charge justifies his 8 in tactics.
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Question of the comments. if you can pick one Power Rangers megazord to be given the Transformers treatment which one would you pick? By transforms treatment you could still transform into either an original robot mode or an existing robot mode just with more possibility my pic would be the battlefleet megazord from operation overdrive a.k.a. DaiVoyager it looks like an autobot version of tidal wave from transformers armada.
There actually was one like that already! The Rescue Megazord. It was like my FAVORITE Megazord of all time because of that.
If I have to pic a new one, I mean I gotta go with either the Mighty Morphin, or the In Space Megazords.
I fear for dear transmutate
I mean she will have a Strong Weaponry Stat.
So I guess Dinobot has a better arsenal than Transmetal 1 Cheetor
maybe cuz more metal equals being slightly more heaviness lel hence the bare "upgrade"
Possibly? Thought that would be a very esoteric Justification.
I always thought transmetal was like an upgrade kit or like those battle passes in fortnite or in New modern games (which I hate). You know when you level up or buy your way (like an idiot IMO) and you get a new skin(s), emotes, voice lines, game coins and other item no one cares about.
I also thought rattrap used a whip. Lastly glad you're doing this again
I mean I think I know, but I've never really played any of those games.
And yeah but don't expect too many of them. I have enough characters for 1 more video, but that will be every BW character in the show.
tigerhawk also crushed the living crap out of the predacon base
Wasn't that Ravages ship?
nope in other victories he meteored right into the lava ship base@@PerspectiveEnd
Nah, give my boi Cheetor a 1.0 at least for tactics, he did use his flight mode for recon at least
It hurt him more often than it helped.
Love this
Didn't tm Optimus have a "fan mode" cannon thing the show writers decided to use as his "gun"?
He had an AA gun strapped to his back, if that's what you were talking about, but it's not a fan mode, it was set up to do that.
@PerspectiveEnd Dang. I got flagged for spam and scamming for linking tfwiki in my reply. The transmetals page discusses how the cannon mode was something mainframe came up with as a workaround to Kenner not giving the TMs ranged weapons
How is that algorithm dreaming you?
Do you think this show hated bumblebee. We don’t see him on the ark. He’s never mentioned. And unlike some others there are no toys that used his name.
I think Bumblebee was probably just unlucky. Like they needed Megatron and Optimus, then Starscream was made earlier in the season for other reasons, and they probably just quick made the first two Autobots who came to mind to fill out the ship, so Prowl and Ironhide, and Bumblebee just didn't luck out.
I noticed you posted 0.1 second later than usual
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Just to let you know Cheetor TM2 flew in 1 episode. In nemesis part 1
That's a questionable scene, and he's not shown to do it twice. So I discount it.
You can discount all you want cannon is still cannon. But still love the vid and keep up the great work.
I do love me some maxiamals and prediacons. How about we throw in the autiobots as well?
They are harder to judge because G1 was less serious than Beast Wars, so what happened in each episode was allowed to contradict what came before, and most people were supposed to be grunt level, so like 6 out of 10s would be the most normal stat.
The Dragonball reference is definitely appropriate. The transformations have a limited but also broad application. TM1 was fine. It more or less gave a fast travel perk to certain members. No more episodes like "Fallen Comrades" (I liked the episodes, but the fact Megs can cover the distance in 5 min the others took all episode to reach really stretches that disbelief) TM2 like in DB and DBZ, it feels like more thought was put into it and this is the more refined version. (Like Super Sayin 1 is just temper tantrum unlocked, but by SS2 there were rules, conditions and drawbacks since it was no longer a pocket deus ex machina. But it also slipped in the explanation department. Depth Charge comes in automatically as a TM2. Why? Bat-Manta has to fight the Joker on equal footing so instant upgrade. But Dinobot 2 needs a driver to access TM2. Why? So Cheetor has an explanation for hulking out into a TM2 version.
Rather than the transformation nonsense I would have had a spectrum. At one end you have fully organic entity (Gaia) and at the other end you have fully synthetic (Machina). S1 Beasties sit on the Gaia side, Beast Machine Vehicons on the Machina side and transmetals range between.
Depthcharge isn't a Transmetal 2.
You can tell because he's not Asymmetrical, which is the defining feature of Transmetal 2, along with the lost of the Vehicle modes, which Depthcharge had. He was a Transmetal 1.
Wouldnt Tigerhawk also count as a Fuzor on a couple levels, given he's not only a fusion of a Tiger and a Hawk, but a fusion of Airazor and Tigatron
Not related to power levels, but I wish that the other 4 additional Beast Wars characters and other 8 Transmetals of Season 1 get Kingdom era figures, like a Deluxe Quickstrike, a Voyager Depth Charge, a Leader Rampage, a Voyager Dinobot II, a Voyager TM Optimus Primal, a Leader/Commander Optimal Optimus, a Deluxe TM Cheetor, a Voyager TMII Cheetor, a Deluxe TM Rattrap, a Leader TM Megatron, a Deluxe TM Tarantulas, and a Deluxe TMII Blackarachnia.
Hang in there. I think Hasbro will pause for Transformers 40th, but following (or maybe during) they'll resume and get around to some Transmetals. At least TM Rattrap, Cheetor and Tarantulas.
Given that Tigerhawk came at the cost of a solid mid-range and an mvp it's good that the result is a powerhouse.
Otherwise it would be like trading Gohan and Krillin for Yamcha fresh off a wrecking.
Still, Tigerhawk holds one of the top spot records for most messed up origin story, in my opinion. Would have been entertaining if the romantic bonds of their two comprising bots manifested as catty narcissism in retrospect.
Why is the Option that you trade 2 goods for one Terrible? Wouldn't it be more like trading 2 goods for a Tien at worst?
Oh yeah, Tigerhawk is absolutely one of the most horrific things they did to any character.
@@PerspectiveEnd What the Vok did to Airrazor is worse than anything Bay could do to her, and that's saying something.
The Vok are the worst in all timelines by proxy. Still, a pity we didn't get to explore the character that came from her and Tigertron's fused sparks more than as a powerhouse living macguffin.
Have you considered maybe doing these for more transformers shows? 👀
I have but it feels less necessary for them, as the rules were either less defined for each of them, or they are all a lot closer.
Like in G1 most of the characters are probably going to be like a 5 or 6 out of 10 in all stats.
Who is the most skilled fighter in the show on either sides
It's probably a Tossup Between Dinobot, and Blackarachnia.
Cheetor became an incel. Lol I'm dead
I'm happy to slay.
how to do power scalings in beast wars be like: "how well could they kill cheetor"
Because Cheetor asks himself what he could do to make himself more killable every day.
I don’t think we saw Bumblbee on the ark in beast wars
Is optimal Optimus even a transmetal? The way I saw it, transmetal forms could only be acquired through vok interactions and he got it from the matrix
He is most definitely not a Transmetal.
I'm sad that both terrorsuar and scorponok never got their transmetal forms in the show
They had to die right before they got it.
I wonder if they would have been useful if they had them in the show
What about the 19 dollar Generations Arcee I accidentally found while looking for an old Prime Arcee?
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Why would quickstrike possibly count as a transmetal fuzor, I mean I think I see some metal on his beast mode but that could also just be grey scales or carapace
Any chance you’ll be completing newage dinobots? Off topic use but comment makes algorithm facist happy.
Thank you so much for the comment. And possibly. I'm not sure. Their Sluge and Swoop are tempting me, but I kind of want to see what the whole team looks like together.
I’m one of the few TM2 Cheetor fans
anyone else notice the typo on the character sheet? (maxiamal instead of maximal)
Yeah, some how I didn't notice that, I've been using these character cards for two years, so that's probably on me.
Maxi-amal
Yeah, seems Hoovy made a typo I never noticed. I've been looking at that card for like 2 years now, so it's honestly more on me than him.
Why would morning stars do more damage than swords
To a Robot? Because they are made of metal. Blunt damage is more effective against armor, since you aren't trying to penetrate it, you are just transferring the force to what ever's behind the armor.
An fun and interesting video, but I'm not gonna lie, you lost me on Rattrap.
With the smaller shield, I mostly remember his first fight with Megs, and honestly, it wasn't bad. Considoring it shielded him from Meg's arm cannon shots.
And as for "loosing detonator charges" What are you talking about? He still has them in use.
The time he planted bombs inside Ravage's ship (or more specificly, on Tarantulas hands)
Or the time he saved Silverbolt by bouth fooling, and "glithing" Waspinator with one of them.
I don't remember him using them, the Transarts toy has them, but that's just a reference to his older form as far as I remember. I obviously didn't rewatch the whole show to make this video, but I do watch it at least once every two years or so.
You are right about that with Ravages ship though. But I don't think we see where he gets them.
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Maxiamal?
Was that on the original boxes?
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Quick question what about blackaiachina she was maximal after her transmetal 2 upgrade? Love your work ❤
He put her on the predacon side to boost the length of that video, he mentioned it near the end I think
Yeah, Crazyedemu is right, I know she's a Maximal but this video was going to be like 14 or 15 minutes long and the Predacons without her would have been like 8, so I moved her over to them since "She may be good but she still bad" and it was her original faction in the show and all... Well the original one we see her as at least.
And thank you!
I know this technically isn't on the subject matter but did you watch the Frieza vs Megatron death battle.
Didn't watch it. Seems pointless. Frieza can blow up a planet with 1 hand, so it's moronic to put him against Megatron a guy who uses a Gun. They aren't even remotely on the same power level. Radditz would probably be a Threat to Megatron.
@@PerspectiveEnd they do bring in his IDW powers and the feats of durability from Cybertron getting moved back. It's a pretty fair fight and the animation is beautiful.
Day 12 of reminding perspective that he needs to do toy world scavenger before aging into dust. (after beast wars month of course).