WH40K have weird scaling . On one hand we have these massive machine and armies, on the other hand some of the number are absurdly small for a universe this massive. Take the 1000 Astartes per Chapter limitation for example .
Lol they didn’t think it was real because they considered it to be a silly waste of resources. They didn’t know the emperor of man’s name was moto moto, a name so nice you say it twice
first they were dumbfounded. then they knew they had to build their own kind of stupid useless machine to counter it. and finally, they had a titan of their own, that they didn't want, didn't like, but still needed
it s not even the only city like this, I remember that there is a world known for its forge city, which is also a walking city that goes to the different mines ans resources city to supply the craftsmen... except that from what I remember, there aren't walking but instead using treads... ( it s driving through the desert )
@@RazorToaster I don't remember this detail, I only remember of Gunmetal city s planet and Ambulon, but I don't think any of those world were homeworld of the iron hands
I think right after the baneblade you should have a 2 story house for reference, just to show the baneblade is about the same height. Same thing with the Dominus Knight and a 3 story building, and right after the Reaver show a 6 story building
Agreed - would have really loved a lot more referential visuals, including more units on screen at a time. The brief reappearance of the guardsman was nice.
Not really a correction, but the typical height of an old marine (in armour) is 7ft tall (or 2.1 Meters). GW has been very consistent about this for years, saying so in multiple sources including the GW website, and in White Dwarf, 6th Edition Chaos Codex, and Jes Goodwin's full scale art. Some black library authors like to call attention to the particularly tall ones that stand out from the group, Dan Abnett in particular likes doing this, but those are outliers. So, yes an old marine absolutely can be 7.5ft, but that'll be on the tall side for one of his kind.
Ordinatus Ulator is actually only slightly bigger than Baneblade. The size in this video is completely off. I think the sizes in a few other cases are also off.
This video is of questionable accuracy. The big one that stuck out to me is you placing the Deathstrike Missile Launcher (which is a Chimera chassis) as at the same height as a Mastodon (the largest ground vehicle in the Space Marine arsenal). There are also other inconsistencies, such as the mislabeling of the Primaris Invictor Tactical Warsuit, or listing the Predator (Rhino chassis) as larger than a Land Raider. Minor details, but ones that greatly detract from the veracity of the video.
I think the glaive and falcion tanks are also misplaced, because the falcion uses 2 volcano canons while the bane blade has one, plus it’s space marine so I’m relatively certain it is larger than the bane blade.
He got the titans wrong to. To quote “The Emperor Titan is the largest type of Imperial Titan, consisting of two classes: the Imperator and Warmonger.” The size is also wrong although lore is also inconsistent here, but with cathedral spires they are on average 55 meters tall (scaled off of the models), the Dies Irae was without spires and was 43m (as stated) respectively. The Castigator was the original and possibly the largest (as it said) of all but it’s size was never stated.
@@hybrid9mm yes like you said lore inconsistencies and technically imperators are (unless we are to believe the mystery shrouded accounts of the unnamed even larger imperators) the biggest in the setting. Originals kinda… well time and idiocy is a bitch.
@@blacksabbath5300 I go by this “According to the scale diagram from the Imperator's Apocalypse datasheet, it stands approximately 39" tall on tabletop, equivalent to 55.5 meters (166ft) in real life” they are the rules after all. But yes the books are all over the place and there is a lot of bs and hyping up etc.
@@hybrid9mm ok but actually, no. Sorry but they have to be bigger than that. Most things aren’t 100% scaled like that for fucks sake the size of astartes using image scaling and actual basic math and logic shows they should be shooting calibers way above .75 as a standard. GW just thought it sounded cool. But seriously, given the size of a volcano canon which we know better from more solidified numbers on other things like the shadow sword they’re mounted on that a warlord titan would be taller than 166. And imperators are much bigger. Also they’re roughly the same height as that one absurd tank with a canon (which is small in comparison to the rest of the vehicle) that supposedly fits four battle tanks in the barrel. I’m not trying to be an ass and argue just for the sake of it, I’m just saying warhammer is on a ridiculous scale intentionally and asking to please let the god engines be a little more fun. Please. Pwetty pwease from a maid marine. Edit: WAIT I mixed up some numbers and names pardon the warlord isn’t quite that big but a imperator should be a tad larger.
As far as I know, the Deredeo and Contemptor Dreadnoughts are the same size if you dont count the missile rack on the Deredeo (though the Deredeo uses the exact same leg system from the Leviathan) meaning it shouldnt be placed that far below the Contemptor
I had to look that one up in the Warhammer wiki. It's apparently was a walking mobile techno-nomad platorm that slowly looped around the equator of Terra.
The Emperor Titan only consists of two classes: the Imperator and Warmonger, there is no emperor class it’s the chassis designation. The size of these on average is only 55.5m (scaled from 39" tall on tabletop model), without spires (Dies Irae) they are only 43m which would be the standard height of the chassis before spires etc. The Castigator was the 1st and apparently the largest although this was only stated as being such no actual measurement was given.
Lol it's still count, size in general is the magnitude or dimensions of a thing. More specifically, geometrical size (or spatial size) can refer to three geometrical measures: length, area, or volume. Length can be generalized to other linear dimensions (width, height, diameter, perimeter).
Ordinatus Ulator is that right, because the actual Forgeworld model looks a lot smaller!! If that's case what size it should be i wonder why the actual model is a lot smaller?
The Imperium may care about size alot for their ground vehicles and mechs however unfortunately for them even these have yet to overcome the weight and factoring capability issues to reach ridiculous anime mecha sizes which I seen from the Macross Cannon Soldier mode. They thing is over 5km on height. About the size of a Imperium Battleship. Yeah that's some massive amounts of engineering to even attempt. Though I think they should do themselves a favor look into better resourceful big tanks that can be massed produced with better weapons systems and point defenses like the Bolo Mk.33 tank from the Bolo series. Or else I guess they are going either need more Dark Age of Technology designs or try to become a full Tier 1: Class nation according to the Forerunner's technological advancement scale to do the other option.
Empire Logic: With these resources we can build a million tanks; How about we instead build a vehicle so fucking big that people die because they can't fathom its size? (this is canon, by the way)
I have seen the numbers for the Imperator vary between 25 meters to up to 1025(!) meters tall Which--and I did the math on this--if that last one was cast as a mini to scale with an ~8 foot Astartes, would result in a MINIATURE that's over fifty feet tall. The mini would be larger than full-size Imperial Knights.
0:52 ah so that's what the excindio looks like, interesting. But l'm quite sure the scale here is off, it's rules for horus heresy imply that it should be at least leviathan sized
Imperial Psi-Titans? Those are just Warlords with modified shoulder waepons. Eldar Psi-Titans are usually one weight class taller than their direct imperial chassis equivalents, though still lighter than them duento material and construction.
So are walker botos or dumping planets' worth of resources into breeding super soldiers that can and will be killed by 3 or 4 regular dudes in a shootout, but 40K has always been rule of cool first (and only).
Assuming a Grey Knight is about the same height as a space marine, the height of a Grey Dreadknight looks like 6m at most. Are Grey Knights larger or something?
This is all fucked up,.. on the tabletop, my predator is puny compared to the size and stature of my Land raider,… this must by some seriously skewed lore references. Other than that, excellent work, and very entertaining video.
Nah, you can even see ladders on the model for the pilot to use, 33 feet is pretty much bang on. That whole bulbous area abovebthe head if the cockpit for the pilot. It really isn't that big.
Size and scale is what makes 40k for me
Humongous Terminator Daddies!
WH40K have weird scaling . On one hand we have these massive machine and armies, on the other hand some of the number are absurdly small for a universe this massive. Take the 1000 Astartes per Chapter limitation for example .
More dhakka as well
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@@remliqaif horus heresy didnt happend maybe the limit for chapter never a thing
One bit of lore I love is the Tau didn't even believe Titans were real XD
Lol they didn’t think it was real because they considered it to be a silly waste of resources.
They didn’t know the emperor of man’s name was moto moto, a name so nice you say it twice
their reaction when they found out their enemy were stupid enough to actually think, build and operate titan were the best...
@@rji1856 How did they react?
first they were dumbfounded. then they knew they had to build their own kind of stupid useless machine to counter it. and finally, they had a titan of their own, that they didn't want, didn't like, but still needed
@@rji1856 Funny 😆I'm new to the lore but I knew Tau were cool and now I root for them even more
*gets to the end of the video*
“I’m sorry. The WHAT?!?!?”
it s not even the only city like this, I remember that there is a world known for its forge city, which is also a walking city that goes to the different mines ans resources city to supply the craftsmen... except that from what I remember, there aren't walking but instead using treads... ( it s driving through the desert )
@@rji1856 I'm pretty sure it's the Iron Hands homeworld
@@RazorToaster I don't remember this detail, I only remember of Gunmetal city s planet and Ambulon, but I don't think any of those world were homeworld of the iron hands
@@rji1856 The Iron Hands have a walking city
me too 🤣
The Walking City - Mobile industrial city that perpetually walks across the equator of Terra 😱
I wonder if Rogal Dorn designed it. "THIS IS FUNNY TO ME"
You know shit’s bad when the church starts walkin.
3:27 thank you for refreshing on a standard human as the video progressed! It can be easy to forget how tall these things get over time
I think right after the baneblade you should have a 2 story house for reference, just to show the baneblade is about the same height. Same thing with the Dominus Knight and a 3 story building, and right after the Reaver show a 6 story building
Agreed - would have really loved a lot more referential visuals, including more units on screen at a time. The brief reappearance of the guardsman was nice.
(Some) Corrections:
Imperial Guardsmen, 6ft
Firstborn Spacemarine, 7.5ft
Excindio Class Battle Automata, 8-9ft
Scyllax Guardian Class Battle Automata, 9.3ft
Vorax Class Battle Automata, 9.3ft
Casterferrum Pattern Dreadnought, 12ft
Castellax Class Battle Automata, 18ft
Conqueror Class Battle Automata, [DATA EXPUNGED]
Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought, 14.5ft
Furibundus Patrern Dreadnought, 12ft
Krios Battle Tank, 13.1ft
Landraider, 13.4ft
Kastelan Class Battle Automata, 13.8ft
Cataphract Class Mining Automata, 12.8ft
Basilisk, 14.3ft
Leman Russ, 14.3ft
Predator, 14.4ft
Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, 14.5ft
Macharius, 15.7ft
Sicarian, 15.9ft
Malcador, 12.7ft
Ironstrider Dragoon, 16.4ft
Onager Dunecrawler, 15.9ft
Hydra Flak, 16.7ft
Rogal Dorn, 17.1ft
Scorpius Disintigratod, 17.2ft
Sentinel, 17.5ft
Kratos, 17.7ft
Primaris Repulsor, 17.7ft
Falchion, 19ft
Glaive, 19ft
Primaris Redemptor Pattern Dreadnought, 20ft
Leviathan Pattern Dreadnought, 19.7ft
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought, 19.7ft
Baneblade, 20.6ft
Armiger, 21ft
Invictus Tactical Warsuit, (Including Antennae) 21ft
Astraeus, 23ft
Deathstrike Launcher, 14.3ft
Mastadon, 23ft
Dreadknight, 21.3ft
Thanator Automata, 25.6ft
Knight Questoris, 33ft
Knight Dominus, 37ft
Knight Cerastus, 40ft
Knight Acastus, 52.2ft
Direwolf, 55.8ft
Warhound, 56ft
Reaver, 83ft
Warbringer, 98ft
Warlord, 108ft
Warmaster, 134ft
Capitol Imperialis, 164ft
Emperor Class (Both Imperator and Warmongerer) 160-300ft
Leviathan, 295ft
Ordinatus Ulator, 328ft
Rare Emperor, [NONEXISTENT]
Ordinatus Armageddon, 1650ft
Walking City Of Terra, [DATA EXPUNGED]
Feel free to ask for sources in replies and correct me on something if I’m wrong!
I wish you had made the video. Or if the creator had done any real research.
Jesus dude. Get a hobby.
@@Pro88teCThis is his hobby lol.
Not really a correction, but the typical height of an old marine (in armour) is 7ft tall (or 2.1 Meters). GW has been very consistent about this for years, saying so in multiple sources including the GW website, and in White Dwarf, 6th Edition Chaos Codex, and Jes Goodwin's full scale art. Some black library authors like to call attention to the particularly tall ones that stand out from the group, Dan Abnett in particular likes doing this, but those are outliers.
So, yes an old marine absolutely can be 7.5ft, but that'll be on the tall side for one of his kind.
Wtf is ft
In the grim darkness of the far future, its 1, 2, 3 strikes you're out at the old ball game...
2:52 I can already hear "rage of sparta" playing with this one
The sheer depth of each design is phenomenal, other then a few of the tanks- each minute addition creates so much flavor for the series
What the hell is the walking city of terra?! I guess if it exists it might be a dark age relic.
It's a city that walks
Ordinatus Ulator is actually only slightly bigger than Baneblade. The size in this video is completely off. I think the sizes in a few other cases are also off.
This video is of questionable accuracy. The big one that stuck out to me is you placing the Deathstrike Missile Launcher (which is a Chimera chassis) as at the same height as a Mastodon (the largest ground vehicle in the Space Marine arsenal).
There are also other inconsistencies, such as the mislabeling of the Primaris Invictor Tactical Warsuit, or listing the Predator (Rhino chassis) as larger than a Land Raider. Minor details, but ones that greatly detract from the veracity of the video.
I think the glaive and falcion tanks are also misplaced, because the falcion uses 2 volcano canons while the bane blade has one, plus it’s space marine so I’m relatively certain it is larger than the bane blade.
He got the titans wrong to.
To quote “The Emperor Titan is the largest type of Imperial Titan, consisting of two classes: the Imperator and Warmonger.”
The size is also wrong although lore is also inconsistent here, but with cathedral spires they are on average 55 meters tall (scaled off of the models), the Dies Irae was without spires and was 43m (as stated) respectively.
The Castigator was the original and possibly the largest (as it said) of all but it’s size was never stated.
@@hybrid9mm yes like you said lore inconsistencies and technically imperators are (unless we are to believe the mystery shrouded accounts of the unnamed even larger imperators) the biggest in the setting. Originals kinda… well time and idiocy is a bitch.
@@blacksabbath5300 I go by this “According to the scale diagram from the Imperator's Apocalypse datasheet, it stands approximately 39" tall on tabletop, equivalent to 55.5 meters (166ft) in real life” they are the rules after all.
But yes the books are all over the place and there is a lot of bs and hyping up etc.
@@hybrid9mm ok but actually, no. Sorry but they have to be bigger than that. Most things aren’t 100% scaled like that for fucks sake the size of astartes using image scaling and actual basic math and logic shows they should be shooting calibers way above .75 as a standard. GW just thought it sounded cool. But seriously, given the size of a volcano canon which we know better from more solidified numbers on other things like the shadow sword they’re mounted on that a warlord titan would be taller than 166. And imperators are much bigger. Also they’re roughly the same height as that one absurd tank with a canon (which is small in comparison to the rest of the vehicle) that supposedly fits four battle tanks in the barrel. I’m not trying to be an ass and argue just for the sake of it, I’m just saying warhammer is on a ridiculous scale intentionally and asking to please let the god engines be a little more fun. Please. Pwetty pwease from a maid marine. Edit: WAIT I mixed up some numbers and names pardon the warlord isn’t quite that big but a imperator should be a tad larger.
THIS is why I love 40k, it's absolutely insane and I love it!
As far as I know, the Deredeo and Contemptor Dreadnoughts are the same size if you dont count the missile rack on the Deredeo (though the Deredeo uses the exact same leg system from the Leviathan) meaning it shouldnt be placed that far below the Contemptor
Thank you so much! I love these size comparisons, helps me understand the lore so much better 👍🏼
5:30 ...and that is why Oberon made short work of Godbreaker.
This is great! Do this for every faction!
I didn't know about walking city.
Why were some of the designates blurred out?
probably to not spoiler dreadnought names
Idk considering it’s easy to just Google the names and buy the modes.
I think they mislabled them
Ok but what in the seven hells is the Walking City of Terra?
Could I get a rec for more info on that?
Sketchy scale bro
I had to look that one up in the Warhammer wiki. It's apparently was a walking mobile techno-nomad platorm that slowly looped around the equator of Terra.
3:12 Ah yes, I love the ""
Why is the Primaris Redemptor pattern Dreadnought name censored at 3:12 - 3:15?
Actually there is a few that have a censor why?
Maybe their real names are foul words.😂
Games workshop lawyers etc
@@davenoi But wouldn't that censor all the other names
@@crassus300 geedub's lawyers work in mysterious ways
GW has trademarked basically everything they could, including "GW"
The Emperor Titan only consists of two classes: the Imperator and Warmonger, there is no emperor class it’s the chassis designation.
The size of these on average is only 55.5m (scaled from 39" tall on tabletop model), without spires (Dies Irae) they are only 43m which would be the standard height of the chassis before spires etc.
The Castigator was the 1st and apparently the largest although this was only stated as being such no actual measurement was given.
Member thinking when I was younger Mechwarrior mechs were the sizes of the warlords and then realized one day how small they were.
3:13 redemptor dreadnought.
Why did he block out the name?
What is up with that m8?
Direwolf is bigger than the warhound
Whoa whoa whoa! The tiny guardsman snipers?
Ominous feeling in just hearing the music with no narration.
4:50 COGS AND BOLTS AND ANCIENT LORE! FASHIONED TO FEARSOME ENGINES OF WAR!
The Ordinatus Armageddon AKA Oberon wasn't that tall. It was that LONG but wasn't even as tall a Reaver Titan
2020- the rebels are attacking the city.
warhammer 40k- *THE CITY IS ATTACKING THE REBELS*
The mass amount of flaws in amazing, but still a good video
Thx for a beginner like me this was the video I searched for! Awesome Job
I appreciate the circus music at the end, helps demonstrate how ridiculous GW's Titan scales are
this isn't a size comparison, it's a height comparison.
Lol it's still count, size in general is the magnitude or dimensions of a thing. More specifically, geometrical size (or spatial size) can refer to three geometrical measures: length, area, or volume. Length can be generalized to other linear dimensions (width, height, diameter, perimeter).
This is awesome. If you guys think this is insane. Look up the size chart for some of the ships in eve online. The titans are straight insanity.
UH?! Where the HELL did the walking city of Terra come from?!!!!!
I'm no Einstein, but judging by the facts we've got on our hands: it probably came from Terra
i cannot believe that kratos exists in 40k
3:12 *Redacted by the Inquisition*
Ordinatus Ulator is that right, because the actual Forgeworld model looks a lot smaller!! If that's case what size it should be i wonder why the actual model is a lot smaller?
To keep it below 40000 dollars.
@@fishyboy2140 😂😂😂
The Imperium may care about size alot for their ground vehicles and mechs however unfortunately for them even these have yet to overcome the weight and factoring capability issues to reach ridiculous anime mecha sizes which I seen from the Macross Cannon Soldier mode. They thing is over 5km on height. About the size of a Imperium Battleship.
Yeah that's some massive amounts of engineering to even attempt.
Though I think they should do themselves a favor look into better resourceful big tanks that can be massed produced with better weapons systems and point defenses like the Bolo Mk.33 tank from the Bolo series.
Or else I guess they are going either need more Dark Age of Technology designs or try to become a full Tier 1: Class nation according to the Forerunner's technological advancement scale to do the other option.
0:26 at this point people buy everything
You can't last in the 40k universe if you're not batshit insane about war
Maybe add the previous units of that line, along the bottom, in a transparent/silouette look. To maximise the grand scale of the taller machines.
Empire Logic:
With these resources we can build a million tanks; How about we instead build a vehicle so fucking big that people die because they can't fathom its size? (this is canon, by the way)
at 3:12, what is the dreadnought (i believe it is) name
Redemptor
Primaris Redemptor
Jonathan
Why are there censored names?
No way this isn’t gonna get an answer.
Probably because they were flagged for copyright by AI and the channels reposted with the names the AI didn't like blurred out.
Keep it coming also bro in what vid did you say s Carnifex is 6 tons in weight i need to find that vid
Suddenly my nemesis dreadnought feels like bait fish
oh lord they included the silver baby carrier (grey dreadknight.)
You know I never really put much thought into how big a dam dreadought is till now.
Just a quick question, WAs the blurred dreadnought a redemptor dreadnought? 3:15
Yes
isnt the hydra AA not that tall? the basilisk and hydra both use the chimera chassis and i dont consider it more chunky than an rogal dorn tank
They video is not counting just the chassis, but the turret and peripherals as well. For the AA it's counting how high up the barrels reach.
Okay hold up, we need more info on that last one
Does anyone who is more invested in 40k know why the 3:12 one is redacted/hidden? I don't know what it is
Edit: and the 3:40 one, too - I guess
AI can read the trademarked name on the screen and issue a copyright claim.
Walking City should be called Walking Country 😮
What's a problem with Redemptor?
Lord of skulls be like..."AM I A JOKE TO YOU IMPERIAL SCUM!"
I have seen the numbers for the Imperator vary between 25 meters to up to 1025(!) meters tall
Which--and I did the math on this--if that last one was cast as a mini to scale with an ~8 foot Astartes, would result in a MINIATURE that's over fifty feet tall. The mini would be larger than full-size Imperial Knights.
Official Imperator height has been pretty damn consistent at 45 to 55 meters, depending on the shoulder superstructure, if it has spires or not, etc.
I would love to see a human always on screen so that way you see how small he gets
damn mindq got his voice snatched by ai
Correction, the Warmaster is 134 feet in height, not 234 feet. Great video though!
@ 4:56 - Typo on the Warmaster scale in Feet. They are 41m which is 134ft not 234ft.
0:52 ah so that's what the excindio looks like, interesting.
But l'm quite sure the scale here is off, it's rules for horus heresy imply that it should be at least leviathan sized
Often incorrect names :/ However, many new things I wasn't aware of, so overall... kinda good video I guess?
Soundtrack sounds great at 2x speed!
Where's the psi-titan at?
[REDACTED]
arent they just modified psyker warlord class or something?
Imperial Psi-Titans? Those are just Warlords with modified shoulder waepons. Eldar Psi-Titans are usually one weight class taller than their direct imperial chassis equivalents, though still lighter than them duento material and construction.
5-6 meter tall tanks would be actually a disadvantage in war.
So are walker botos or dumping planets' worth of resources into breeding super soldiers that can and will be killed by 3 or 4 regular dudes in a shootout, but 40K has always been rule of cool first (and only).
were are the primaries space marines?!
Hilarious that he forgot the rhino as the most basic bitch vehicle in space marine arsenal
Why are the Armiger and Scout Sentinel so big in the thumbnail lmao
One but of tau vehicles
my question is where was the ballistus pattern dread same with the venerable pattern dread
Please do one with xenos
Hahaha a walking city, like why?! 😂😂😂
Just realized there is a walking city.
Assuming a Grey Knight is about the same height as a space marine, the height of a Grey Dreadknight looks like 6m at most.
Are Grey Knights larger or something?
All grey knights generally wear terminator armor so yea.
@@kyodairikerthat's only marginally bigger, though.
take me to the war game!
Why mosaic effect in video?
Me, a Gundam fan, looking at the knights and smaller titans: Cute
Gundams can be 15-23 meters tall depending on the series
Btw, it's one automaton, multiple automata.
Ah yes the imperial guard's sentinel, larger than a titan
(A joke going off the thumbnail)
Everything seems to be... a lot shorter than the good descriptions
Why was some of the names blurd
This is all fucked up,.. on the tabletop, my predator is puny compared to the size and stature of my Land raider,… this must by some seriously skewed lore references.
Other than that, excellent work, and very entertaining video.
the land raider is supposed to be way bigger, he just messed up
@@squiblebobble cool man
Why are some of the names blurred out?
Should have kept the space marine on the entire time
Why are some of the names covered up? :(
Marines have 7 feets , primaris maybe 8 feets
3 mins in oh not too bad so far
3:25 zoom in: oh...
Why the dragnought redemptor class Is sensored?
I couldn't find any info on a 'Rare Emperor' the last time I looked for it. Is it canon?
Where are the Terminators, and Penitence Machines?
Hahaha why is that ultramarine exo-mech name blurred out??
What is the walking city of terra
It's a walking city on Terra, a hive city with legs
33ft is a bit short for a Questoris Knight, isn't it? Aren't these guys, like Castellan's, supposed to be walking churches?
Nah, you can even see ladders on the model for the pilot to use, 33 feet is pretty much bang on. That whole bulbous area abovebthe head if the cockpit for the pilot. It really isn't that big.
Why the hell you putted Atlant from Batle of Titans above the biggest Titan in entire universe imaginable?
Lol I love the atlas titan from B.O.T