RATE THE REDESIGNS: Mega Man Battle Network Collection

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  • Опубликовано: 17 апр 2023
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    Max is back to rate the redesigns for classic good guys and bad in the Mega Man Battle Network Collection! With characters returning in new forms from the original series, it's Max's job to decide whether these takes are heroes or zeroes.
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  • @emne5750
    @emne5750 Год назад +1298

    Im biased. I'm a huge battle network fan and i absolutely love how they adapted and changed many of the designs to fit the internet theme. In short, I'm offended.

    • @VioTUmbra
      @VioTUmbra Год назад +86

      I’m biased as hell too as BN and Zero are the games that got me into MegaMan

    • @zeroshadeslayer3000
      @zeroshadeslayer3000 Год назад +13

      For me X was first then the rest

    • @rainofkhandaq6678
      @rainofkhandaq6678 Год назад +49

      Don't worry, you're not the biased one, lmao

    • @WasabiTurtle
      @WasabiTurtle Год назад +2

      Time to grow up

    • @aristo2978
      @aristo2978 Год назад +7

      In short I’m offended.

  • @asaka616
    @asaka616 Год назад +914

    Max: It doesn't try anything new with the design.
    Also Max: It tried too much new with the design.

    • @UltimaKeyMaster
      @UltimaKeyMaster Год назад +91

      His ratings with that are so all over the place, it's not a thing I'm remotely taking seriously.

    • @brandonsclips7741
      @brandonsclips7741 Год назад +112

      @@UltimaKeyMaster yeah max is just spit balling his takes, it never really mattered.
      .
      I'm 'offended' but I'm not OFFENDED, ya know?

    • @ZariLutus
      @ZariLutus Год назад +5

      yeah I noticed this. It felt really strange

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 Год назад +48

      Same thing with references. He's rather strict when something is a direct reference, unless it's a reference he likes, then it's the greatest thing ever.

    • @roxtechs
      @roxtechs Год назад +6

      Can’t wait for SF6 redesigns review

  • @yamatoko219
    @yamatoko219 Год назад +77

    The fact that these designs seem modern 20 freaking years later speaks to the quality of battlenetwork.

  • @CountofBleck
    @CountofBleck Год назад +309

    I like how Max talks about how the modernized them, despite the fact these came out like 20 years ago. its the new retro modern era of designs!

    • @trigs7127
      @trigs7127 Год назад +52

      Just goes to show how well these designs holds up.
      Heck, I'm even surprised he bothered checking the game out when his reaction to the announcement was so muted.

    • @darrylaz3570
      @darrylaz3570 Год назад +15

      ​@@trigs7127 He was sponsored by Capcom to play the game, and even then he played BN3 and hasn't reached the first boss yet when he called it a day lol

  • @MergedWarriors
    @MergedWarriors Год назад +383

    This is the Mega Man era I grew up with. I wouldn't mind rewatching the anime again.

    • @Flamelance_Accendo
      @Flamelance_Accendo Год назад +12

      I still hate how the rest of it isn't dubbed..

    • @danthefool21
      @danthefool21 Год назад

      Is it streaming anywhere?

    • @unnamedx2
      @unnamedx2 Год назад

      Same

    • @vstpnv
      @vstpnv Год назад +5

      it's currently going live on capcom's twitch

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 Год назад +27

      @@danthefool21 the entire dub is available on Capcom’s official RUclips channel until September.

  • @kai_824
    @kai_824 Год назад +215

    I think one needs to consider these aren't robots. They're Netnavis, they're designed so different to better emphasize thier power and less of the MAN aspect. Like half the early robot masters all looked the same anyways. Im always for different designs. The npcs in BN already almost all look the same now imagine if all the Netnavis had the same body type as the robot masters. The games designs would be infinitely worse
    Its kinda unfair to judge them like that

  • @Guile_The_Exile
    @Guile_The_Exile Год назад +249

    Max woke up today and drank a gallon of *HaterAid* ☠️

    • @DavidZakuzaRyutashi
      @DavidZakuzaRyutashi Год назад +28

      Fr tho, rare max L

    • @d3athscythe575
      @d3athscythe575 Год назад +1

      You do know it's his opinion right

    • @LTDLetsPlays
      @LTDLetsPlays Год назад +7

      @@d3athscythe575 we can always argue the reasoning behind the opinion

    • @samuraibeluga3749
      @samuraibeluga3749 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@LTDLetsPlays there is no reasoning, its subjective tastes in character design...damn yall are so overly defensive over this. good to know to stay away from this fanbase.

    • @loreleiofthemist
      @loreleiofthemist 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@samuraibeluga3749 opinions can be trash. get over it.

  • @thecookiegolem
    @thecookiegolem Год назад +49

    I don't understand why he just dismissed Roll like that... she looks cool?!

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic Год назад +7

      Guess he thinks her place is in the kitchen. /obviousjoke

    • @EpicSubmarines
      @EpicSubmarines Год назад +2

      @@HenshinFanatic yeah because she's a dinner roll.

    • @Sonicfalcon16
      @Sonicfalcon16 Год назад +1

      massive upgrade IMO the exe version

    • @goji3755
      @goji3755 Год назад +3

      Battle Network Roll is best Roll. I can't imagine seeing Roll's redesign and having such an intensely negative reaction to it when the classic Roll was just a little girl with the classic series' trademark of fat boots.

    • @andrewstephenson5825
      @andrewstephenson5825 4 месяца назад

      Not only does Roll look cool, she IS cool! I mean, somewhat unsurprisingly, the actual story never lets her be cool (at least as far as I've gotten, which is partway through BN3 White), but her Navi battle chips have always had a place in my folder!

  • @KinglyRed
    @KinglyRed Год назад +154

    For those who are unaware: Battle Network is essentially an AU where internet technology is what blew up instead of robotics in the Classic timeline. Dr. Light is the main character Lan's grandfather and Wily is the main antagonist of the series

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +18

      So it's basically the irl timeline

    • @phantasosxgames8488
      @phantasosxgames8488 Год назад +52

      @@priestesslucy3299 it's even better: Dr.Light only decided to research internet over robotics , because he acquired a girlfriend during his years in university.
      And overall , Battle Networkd -> Star Force Timeline is almost an utopia in comparisson to Classic Timeline.

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 Год назад +26

      ​​@@phantasosxgames8488 The implication of this, seeing he eventually had a family in BN, while he didn't in the mainline and seemingly needed robots to have companionship, is quite a realization now, with very drastic futures for both.

    • @roldanmarcelo1636
      @roldanmarcelo1636 Год назад

      @@phantasosxgames8488 Dr. Light getting pussy = more peaceful future

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog Год назад +41

      @@zjzr08 The fate of humanity in Megaman rests entirely on wether or not Light scored.

  • @bean-charlieartz3138
    @bean-charlieartz3138 Год назад +140

    I think most of these designs are pretty good especially HEATMAN I like the way the fingers were created and the way the face is on fire.

    • @Ziggaton
      @Ziggaton Год назад +40

      Yeah Max is falling heavy into "They changed it too much so it sucks". But I guess critical character design isn't his forte

    • @ZariLutus
      @ZariLutus Год назад +23

      @@Ziggaton "they changed it too much so it sucks" then the very next one: "too traditional"

    • @RegurkAbas
      @RegurkAbas Год назад +15

      @@Ziggaton But he also says "They didn't change Fire Man enough" so like...what does he want lol

    • @fernandotredinnick7443
      @fernandotredinnick7443 Год назад +13

      Yeah! Heatman.EXE has one of the best designs.

    • @LTDLetsPlays
      @LTDLetsPlays Год назад +1

      @@Ziggaton he is bad at giving good reasons behind his opinions

  • @Hakudan2
    @Hakudan2 Год назад +90

    Skullman looks SICK what the hell are you smoking

    • @MossoDaBanana
      @MossoDaBanana Год назад +1

      @@Feroce the original official art, not the battle network (which imho, is too childish)

    • @an0n-1o1
      @an0n-1o1 Год назад +5

      ngl he looks like papyrus

    • @DavidZakuzaRyutashi
      @DavidZakuzaRyutashi Год назад +19

      @@an0n-1o1 Papyrus looks like him, you mean.

    • @MossoDaBanana
      @MossoDaBanana Год назад

      @@DavidZakuzaRyutashi they both look like generic skeletons lol

    • @cirocustodio
      @cirocustodio Год назад

      BECAUSE HE IS A FUKIN SKULL? DEAR GOD

  • @TheMoonman4
    @TheMoonman4 Год назад +125

    I honestly appreciated they went a bit wild with some of these designs even if they're hit-or-miss, I always liked the variety. Heatman.EXE is rad to me

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah Год назад +12

      Heatman.exe for life

    • @Lunatic89097
      @Lunatic89097 Год назад +16

      Like a Zippo gremlin. Looks great!

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. Год назад +6

      Most of them are pretty much a homerun. Like Heatman? Thats fucking 10/10. Sick ass opened vintage lighter with flames for eyes and fingers???? Thats peak design.

  • @MegaManXPoweredUp
    @MegaManXPoweredUp Год назад +402

    I'm shocked at how negative Max is about these designs. Seems his criteria is that they have to be upgrades to their original designs, and not too radically different.

    • @TheMoonman4
      @TheMoonman4 Год назад +80

      he's not too keen on the goofier/cuter designs neither

    • @onirush9338
      @onirush9338 Год назад +127

      He was pretty negative about the entire game tbh. Personally, I love this series and I think it’s the dopest form of MegaMan and pals.

    • @haoxinlinying5278
      @haoxinlinying5278 Год назад +36

      @@TheMoonman4 yeah the entire point is to introduce Megaman to a new young audience.

    • @lazybacon7520
      @lazybacon7520 Год назад +43

      He's mentioned before he never got into this series back when it came out, so I kind of expected this.

    • @rainofkhandaq6678
      @rainofkhandaq6678 Год назад +73

      Most of the time Max' opinions are based on rose tinted nostalgia goggles, it's all good.

  • @enriquevaldesmedina
    @enriquevaldesmedina Год назад +43

    Yikes. That’s crazy, EXE designs are amazing. Especially in the context of the games.

  • @PeskyFiend
    @PeskyFiend Год назад +33

    Max seems confused on these redesigns being a separate universe doing something different with making its own style while nodding at some of the old robot masters. Weird he interpreted these as the same exact characters with “rebooted” 2000’s designs they both can exist at the same time. This is why old fans didn’t get it when it came out.

  • @XenogearsEXE
    @XenogearsEXE Год назад +146

    Can't disagree harder with most of the ratings. I love that Battle Network went out its way to give a lot of the robot masters more inspired designs based of the characters motifs. Makes them so much more memorable for me.

  • @meteor22
    @meteor22 Год назад +23

    Max giving Protoman a "ok" rating was sucha hot take. That's the best Protoman has ever looked and they gave him a sword to boot to try to appease the Zero fans a bit. But then they just added Zero in at the end of the games series anyway and that design...idk man.

    • @AmartharDrakestone
      @AmartharDrakestone 9 дней назад

      Nah, it would look much better if they did his hair yellow instead of gray, and the red is a bit overpowering the rest of the design. Original Proto Man had a nice red/gray/yellow balance. This is just red and gray.
      And the spike on top of his head looks stupid.

  • @IkeSan
    @IkeSan Год назад +25

    I never disagreed so much with a Max Video haha.
    Also you have to understand the context of their looks. They are personal Navis like your own personal pet to use on the Internet.

  • @Knightmare1212
    @Knightmare1212 Год назад +410

    I feel like Max is evaluating these designs like they were made for a remake of the Mega Man classic games and not the alternate timeline reimagining that Battle Network is.

    • @rainofkhandaq6678
      @rainofkhandaq6678 Год назад +70

      Pretty much, unfortunate.

    • @MrRedguy321
      @MrRedguy321 Год назад +13

      This.

    • @dantefromdevilmaycry9857
      @dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Год назад +12

      I'm straight up confused wth his criteria's were.

    • @hiiambarney4489
      @hiiambarney4489 Год назад +1

      Pshhhht, he doesn't know!

    • @Vexal50
      @Vexal50 Год назад +12

      To be fair, some of the designs were altered to the point of being unrecognizable, such as Roll. And then there's weird choices like having Protoman being more inspired by Zero than the actual Protoman.....which was rather silly in hindsight, since they *did* make Zero eventually in Network Transmission

  • @ghostcities6742
    @ghostcities6742 Год назад +147

    Max: They didn't change it enough
    Also Max: Egh, they changed it too much, its bad.

    • @Sonicfalcon16
      @Sonicfalcon16 Год назад +5

      Chat was the best this video. Everyone had good takes

    • @hype5456
      @hype5456 4 месяца назад

      There are designs that drastically too different from one another and those that do the bare minimum

  • @RegurkAbas
    @RegurkAbas Год назад +10

    "Wood Man what did they do to you?"
    You mean the Wood Man that was basically some dude inside a tree trunk? That Wood Man?

    • @GamerTowerDX
      @GamerTowerDX Год назад

      Yes, funny how that looks better right?

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Год назад +199

    love how max's knowledge of persona is that they shoot themselves lol

    • @UltimaKeyMaster
      @UltimaKeyMaster Год назад +37

      Well, he's correct for...exactly *one* game. It's the one I have the most familiarity with, at least. ;P

    • @denickart
      @denickart Год назад +16

      ​@@UltimaKeyMaster and it's not even the one game he played

    • @53Spawn
      @53Spawn Год назад +1

      I mean, that was mine too lmao.

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. Год назад +1

      @@UltimaKeyMaster Well it's the most memorable one after all.

    • @UltimaKeyMaster
      @UltimaKeyMaster Год назад +1

      @@JayceCH. We stan Door-kun.

  • @LhLeo
    @LhLeo Год назад +46

    The mmbn designs are so solid it’s hard to go back

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois Год назад +107

    I’m really happy the Battle Network redesigns of the robot master go so hard and definitely Shadow man and Metal man’s redesigns are my favorite

    • @BROXBasher
      @BROXBasher Год назад +1

      My blocky robot character was originally based off of Guts Soul, and my racer robot initially was Gyroman.exe, but later became half Gyroman.exe and half Turbo Man.

  • @therealcannon711
    @therealcannon711 Год назад +59

    BASS.EXE needs to be in a MVC!!!

    • @SeBzBon
      @SeBzBon Год назад +8

      Been pushing for this since forever

    • @KyuubiDragon4
      @KyuubiDragon4 Год назад +7

      YES. YES. FUCKING. YES.

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope Год назад +3

      Yeah

    • @darkrai436
      @darkrai436 Год назад +5

      Fun fact: Bass.exe actually ranked pretty high in several MvC3 polls at the time, and iirc, he was actually in the top 10 of that one Capcom-Unity poll that the devs took into account for Ultimate's newcomers.

  • @syrelian
    @syrelian Год назад +13

    The idea that ElecMan was too far is wild to me, he has a Single Design Element, the coils on his back, meanwhile MM1 ElecMan has... nothing, he's literally just a Dude in a Black-Yellow suit

  • @jexusdomel5194
    @jexusdomel5194 Год назад +36

    I feel like max is too closed off from changes here, but given that these guys are purely digital, they can get a bit more away from purely humanoid designs. I absolutely adore how heatman looks, I think it's sick. I wish they had more out there designs like it (it's not like heatman was amazing before ya know?)

  • @YamiAtomsk
    @YamiAtomsk Год назад +27

    Max: this design is too close to the original
    Also Max: this design isn't enough like the original

  • @miki1177
    @miki1177 Год назад +149

    Glad he's checking out the Battle Network series, but it's very flat-out obvious that Max has very little understanding on the design sensibilities when it comes to Battle Network designs given how abstract they tend to play with a lot of the themes (Heat, Snake, etc)

    • @Ziggaton
      @Ziggaton Год назад +56

      Lol yeah. Not all of them are bangers but some are quite objectively better at conveying theme than og. Wood man and Heatman being big examples. Og designs are literally just "little guy wearing a wood suit or zippo lighter".

    • @jumpfold
      @jumpfold Год назад +2

      They look awful amd the game sucks

    • @gdadder
      @gdadder Год назад +53

      @@jumpfold obvious troll is obvious

    • @rommieyay4444
      @rommieyay4444 Год назад +12

      @@Ziggaton I just said the same thing lol! The original designs of the first few games looked like guys wearing a costume

    • @BROXBasher
      @BROXBasher Год назад

      Well, he’s a fighting gamer at heart, not a Mega Man fan.

  • @griffnuts
    @griffnuts Год назад +303

    Christ you know you’ve been watching Max’s “Rate The” for too long when you can call all his ratings based on his first reactions.

    • @Dasaltwarrior
      @Dasaltwarrior Год назад +48

      If its red and sleek, then he'll like it
      Max likes his hot rods lol

    • @SPACECOWBOY705
      @SPACECOWBOY705 Год назад +22

      I don't fellow Mega man at all.... But when I saw that shadow man design I knew it would be a 10

    • @pyroronnie2473
      @pyroronnie2473 Год назад +2

      @@Dasaltwarrior true

    • @MattBlackstone
      @MattBlackstone Год назад +1

      🤣😂🤣😂

    • @V..v..V
      @V..v..V Год назад +5

      ​@@Dasaltwarrior Don't forget blonde.

  • @Busterman64
    @Busterman64 Год назад +17

    So regardless of our opinions on the redesigns for each Navi...are we all gonna agree on Bass having a great redesign?

  • @KinglyRed
    @KinglyRed Год назад +28

    Watching the NT Warrior anime as a kid and seeing MegaMan.EXE with the mask up and the cybersword out is what got me into Mega Man as a whole. SUCH a cool design

  • @brandonsclips7741
    @brandonsclips7741 Год назад +107

    It's so funny hearing him call them "modernized" versions of characters when these designs are basically the basis of how I KNOW these characters haha.
    Major L for that Roll rating though. BN Roll is adorable.

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt Год назад +10

      I personally love classic roll but bn roll is ok max was pretty harsh on that one lol

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 Год назад +1

      ​@@Feroce Isn't Roll really just a blonde girl android so not really have anything to come of it?

    • @brandonsclips7741
      @brandonsclips7741 Год назад

      @@Feroce I think the Partial reason for that is because in the mainline stuff he's kind of like her brother, right?
      Roll in this AU kinda has a bit of a crush on Megaman

    • @gustavocardenasmontalvo1266
      @gustavocardenasmontalvo1266 Год назад

      BN Roll is peak

    • @MattManDX1
      @MattManDX1 Год назад +1

      @@brandonsclips7741 Mainline Roll is only Megaman's sister in the American localization of those games. She was always Megaman's love interest in the Japanese version.

  • @KhaosKontroller
    @KhaosKontroller Год назад +8

    Hot take
    Most of these designs are better than the classic ones.

  • @ariloulei814
    @ariloulei814 Год назад +7

    Max sees anything remotely not human shaped: "Garbage, somewhere bellow 5/10"
    Max sees anything human shaped: "Anywhere above 5/10"
    Max sees a human shape with some edgy parts to the design: "Peak Megaman Design above 8/10"
    These weren't robots so they got to go way more abstract with the designs. While there are a few that miss the mark a bit, I think most of the designs have more personality than the old ones. Granted more personality isn't better if it goes outside the scope of what you enjoy.

    • @Sonicfalcon16
      @Sonicfalcon16 9 месяцев назад

      Max likes the man of the megamans, dude like men

  • @dragonman011
    @dragonman011 Год назад +28

    It does feel like Max was missing the aim for these designs being more like digital personifications of their themes rather than being actual functioning robots. A lot of these designs are way different from the original Megaman designs, but considering how kinda same-y a lot of the previous robot masters were before .EXE dropped, it brings way more personality to most of them. Some obviously don't hit, Rush is a good example, but eeeeeh... Probably bias and childhood talking but most of these are solid re-imaginings.

  • @haoujudai
    @haoujudai Год назад +20

    The designs from Battle Network hit that nice middle ground between the simplicity of the original Mega Man and the detailed designs from the X series and onward. Not too much to make it convoluted, but not too little to deprive itself of the nuances of each character.

  • @micshork
    @micshork Год назад +16

    This is definitely a generational thing. It’s like having OG TMNT fans react to the 2003 series or OG Transformers fans react to Transformers Cybertron designs. Sometimes you can be too biased to give a fair assessment.

  • @captainfirefeet
    @captainfirefeet Год назад +43

    I was salty for that Protoman score but Max brought it back with Metal-Man 10/10. Love to see it.

    • @Lunatic89097
      @Lunatic89097 Год назад +13

      I thought the Zero influence would bring him to at least a 9.

    • @X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya
      @X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya Год назад

      @@Lunatic89097 Max isn't a fan of Zero. He calls him green tits mcgee lol.

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt Год назад +4

      Yeah what’s wrong with protoman? I would give it a 8/10

    • @captainfirefeet
      @captainfirefeet Год назад +4

      @@Ronin-kk4bt Idk. Protoman is my favorite character. Easy 10/10 for me.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Год назад +9

      It's a little weird how Protoman is both Protoman and Zero.
      But it works

  • @Dementia55372
    @Dementia55372 Год назад +6

    There are some nuclear takes in this video. I feel like Max's rating boils down to "Is this new design incredibly badass? If not, then I will rate it on a scale of how far it deviates from the original regardless of whether or not it's an improvement."

  • @BeastGamerKuma
    @BeastGamerKuma Год назад +17

    The designs for Battle Network are not bad at all and I did enjoy how they made Gutsman a good guy in the Anime.

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope Год назад +1

      A good guy in the anime indeed. It was Gilligan's Island all over again with him and MegaMan... Lol. Love it. I'm gonna binge watch now

    • @53Spawn
      @53Spawn Год назад +2

      Honestly I love that alot of them are good guys, added so much more character to them.
      Like, NapalmMan is a total bro.
      And the Bass n Treble rendition (Bass n Gospel) is absolutely insane.

    • @BeastGamerKuma
      @BeastGamerKuma Год назад

      @@aroperdope same I loved it, I just wish I kept the figures.

    • @BeastGamerKuma
      @BeastGamerKuma Год назад

      @@53Spawn That is true they were just corrupted and made evil but actually are good. Definitely enjoy the battle system that they had against other players. It was a nice evolution to Megaman like MedaBots.

    • @basurama555
      @basurama555 Год назад +1

      SharkMan's a total bro in the anime

  • @777MrTibbs
    @777MrTibbs Год назад +25

    Gyroman looks like Bumblebee redesigned into a helicopter and I kinda love it.

    • @TornaitSuperBird
      @TornaitSuperBird Год назад +3

      Gyroman looks like he could have been a background character in Transformers Armada.

    • @53Spawn
      @53Spawn Год назад +2

      He's a literal transformar, which makes it even better lol.

  • @587DeathKing
    @587DeathKing Год назад +15

    Bass EXE is a 10/10 redesign.

  • @hydra09minecrafteer
    @hydra09minecrafteer Год назад +54

    Such hot takes. Wood man redesign was way better than ice man’s. Idk about this one, Max

    • @Ziggaton
      @Ziggaton Год назад +23

      Yeah he's relying heavy on the nostalgia informing him and subsequently the kneejerk "they changed it too much so it sucks"

    • @narwhalgamingvariety
      @narwhalgamingvariety Год назад +8

      @@Ziggaton It's funny to react to designs made over 20 years ago and pretend to be shocked about it lol

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope Год назад +2

      He woke me up with the "Wood man what did they do to you!" Bruh I was half asleep. Lol

    • @SamoanSnorlax684
      @SamoanSnorlax684 Год назад

      It's his opinion lol what do you mean "idk about this one"?

    • @53Spawn
      @53Spawn Год назад

      I mean, it is HIS opinion lol. Not need to get all razzle dazzled

  • @aeon3valefore
    @aeon3valefore Год назад +41

    Was hoping to see his reaction to the Zero redesign.

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei Год назад +9

      Watched it live, he thought it was cool, but he didn't pog.

    • @trise2033
      @trise2033 Год назад +3

      No, he already saw Protoman.

    • @aeon3valefore
      @aeon3valefore Год назад +3

      @@StriderZessei Thanks for the heads up. :)

    • @aeon3valefore
      @aeon3valefore Год назад +2

      @Trise There is a legit Zero.exe design.

    • @53Spawn
      @53Spawn Год назад

      He saw it a LONG time ago (before he moved to his new house) with the group. And he absolutely loved Zero.EXE.
      He still does and peeped it again during this stream.

  • @BIGREDXXXL
    @BIGREDXXXL Год назад +5

    man... this gotta be the HOTTEST fucking take-video max has ever made imo LOL
    god damn.. manz rated ElecMan.EXE a 4💀

  • @Vyhox2000
    @Vyhox2000 Год назад +16

    Max just likes edgy designs

    • @LTDLetsPlays
      @LTDLetsPlays Год назад

      And his man in suits (skull man for example)

    • @mermidion7552
      @mermidion7552 Год назад +1

      Then he should have rated the Protoman design higher.

  • @risel56
    @risel56 Год назад +23

    *_"They did my man-wood dirty"_*
    ~ Maximilian Christiansen, 2023

    • @LTDLetsPlays
      @LTDLetsPlays Год назад

      Looking forward to reading his Lolcow page on kiwi farms

  • @ShintaTakama
    @ShintaTakama Год назад +10

    Shadowman.EXE got a 10/10 probably because he looks like Strider Hiryu.

  • @MetalJrock2299
    @MetalJrock2299 Год назад +7

    At least he recognizes Bass.EXE is peak character design

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 Год назад

      It looks very similar to mainline Bass so I get it hehe...still looks pretty great as a NetNavi.

  • @mattjayce2339
    @mattjayce2339 Год назад +4

    The reason for Proto Man, Roll, and Bass's drastic redesigns were that they take elements from X characters. ProtoMan.EXE is a combination of Proto Man and Zero. Roll.EXE is a combination of Roll and Alia. Bass.EXE is a combination of Bass and Sigma.

    • @Megamanlanprime
      @Megamanlanprime 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t really see much of anything of Sigma in Bass’ design. The cloak was more of a general common “dark mysterious” design concept. His actual body is actually fairly similar to Classic Bass but the dark energy and the cloak make him look so much cooler.

  • @wood1066
    @wood1066 Год назад +13

    I really wish Capcom would make a Megaman legends collection and with legends 3 announcement for current gen consoles.

    • @JakeTylenol
      @JakeTylenol Год назад

      It would be the hardest to make I think which is probably why they skipped it for now to get the other projects out the way

    • @MagumoKawasaki
      @MagumoKawasaki Год назад

      and it would skip xbox just like battle network. I bought the 3 previous collections for my xbox to. I was so bummed out they skipped xbox.

  • @dilflordsupreme9051
    @dilflordsupreme9051 Год назад +60

    Max referencing Persona is probably the closest we’ll get to him playing the series

    • @FutureMangaka2011
      @FutureMangaka2011 Год назад +9

      The closet we got to him playing Persona was in Smash Ultimate. And I don’t think he ever played Joker only the stage lol

    • @knickknack675
      @knickknack675 Год назад

      LMAO maybe one day

    • @dilflordsupreme9051
      @dilflordsupreme9051 Год назад +1

      @@FutureMangaka2011 I feel like Max would dig the style of P5 a lot if he tried it. Persona and Yakuza are the two games I'm surprised Max hasn't delved into yet.

    • @dilflordsupreme9051
      @dilflordsupreme9051 Год назад +2

      @@knickknack675 It's ok, he's playing Metroid. That alone is a good timeline

    • @Lunatic89097
      @Lunatic89097 Год назад

      He did play Persona 4 Arena back in the day

  • @MrMTJensen
    @MrMTJensen Год назад +7

    Max yet again proving he doesn't know exactly what he's talking about

  • @superlocke
    @superlocke Год назад +8

    I know this is all subjective but I couldn't disagree with the majority of this video more. The BN designs go SO hard in almost every capacity especially considering how well they're adapted to this theme of being computer AIs. They seriously nailed the aesthetic .

  • @dragonraizen
    @dragonraizen Год назад +26

    Because someone has to:
    "They did my man Wood dirty!" - Max, 2023

    • @tonberryhater2286
      @tonberryhater2286 Год назад

      Huh,could this be considered a dad joke? Lol

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@tonberryhater2286 Woodman is so derpy, words can not describe it.

  • @delipradoness
    @delipradoness Год назад +9

    Max! The design of the characters matched the aesthetic they were going for. I think it was spot on! Lol

  • @YTDaimera
    @YTDaimera Год назад +7

    Went into this knowing exactly what most of the ratings would be, especially Shadow EXE, hahaha. A little sad he didn't hit up the 7ths aside Shade, but it's understandable.

  • @5h0ckblock
    @5h0ckblock Год назад +17

    Yeah a lot of these are extremely cool. Would love to see a couple appear in one of the crossover fighting games.

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog Год назад +6

      Battle Ntwork and Star force in general need to show up in more Capcom crossover material, they always pick X and Legends characters but never these

  • @Cosmic-Turtle
    @Cosmic-Turtle Год назад +4

    These designs are actually perfect. Looking at the original boss characters' designs, most of them have the same body structure, making them too samey, but those limits aren't present with these redesigns, giving them all a unique look. Plus you can tell they had a lot of fun making some of these, like Snakeman.

  • @vankilsing
    @vankilsing Год назад +4

    shouldve had a side by side with the original characters

  • @vermillion8827
    @vermillion8827 Год назад +10

    although not every design is a hit for me the art style itself is beautiful, vibrant colors and easy to read. this is what real megaman is in my eyes, this collection is a treat that brings back good memories 😄

    • @Lunchbillion
      @Lunchbillion Год назад +1

      yeah i feel like even the designs i didn't love had wonderful artwork

  • @SiblingRivalryZX
    @SiblingRivalryZX Год назад +11

    BATTLE NETWORKKK
    despite the ratings being total heresy this shit was my childhood. I hope you have an amazing time with the games!

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 Год назад +4

    Given a lot of these had expanded roles resulting in wildly different personalities, I feel like a lot of the designs are way better in context. Especially TopMan. He's custom made by an old man who who likes tops but wants to impress his kid who gravitates more towards netnavis.

  • @h0m3st4r
    @h0m3st4r Год назад +13

    One of the redesigns Max looked at that's not in this video is, of course, Zero.EXE, which he loved. See it for yourself to get what I mean.

    • @Prosecutor_red
      @Prosecutor_red Год назад +2

      Ah man, wish it was in the video

    • @heardofrvb
      @heardofrvb Год назад

      Zero is in the series?

    • @robochek9475
      @robochek9475 Год назад

      @Just another ghost yeah he was a virus i think and he wanted you to destroy him. He appears in transmission network gcn

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog Год назад +5

      @@heardofrvb In the Gamecube side story, which isnt included in the Legacy collection but is still a canon part of the story.
      I think what they did with him is kinda clever, since the Maverick virus is you know, a computer virus which is what Megaman.EXE fights all the time that's how Zero was born in this timeline, the virus gaining sentience

  • @TheOscuras
    @TheOscuras Год назад +3

    I love Max but I feel like every once in a blue moon he'll talk about a game outside of the fighting game genre and share an opinion I COULDN'T disagree more with😂

  • @humbiglio
    @humbiglio Год назад +4

    i usually agree with max on most of these kinds of videos but i kept being like "this guys is sick!" then max says "they ruined him 2/10" lmaoi

  • @CJKenjii
    @CJKenjii Год назад +5

    Bass.EXE is one of the coolest design in the series, so i'm glad he agrees *whew*

  • @zachataxxii7126
    @zachataxxii7126 Год назад +4

    Taste is subjective and all that, but slandering Roll's 2nd best design (before Legends), Elecman, Heatman, Topman, Snakeman, & Toadman's best designs, Skullman's pretty good design (although I prefer the original), no mentions of Desertman, Groundman, Swordman, or Zero (I know he skipped over the ones he didn't know, but still), ranking Iceman's worst design as one of the best when Aquaman & Blizzardman are right there?
    why am i still here? just to suffer?

  • @GameAlicornLuna
    @GameAlicornLuna Год назад +5

    I always prefered these designs over the original because a lot of the original designs can be summed up as 'Guy in jumpsuit'. It wasn't until they got to the later games that they were able to expand it and give the robot masters a bit more distinct designs.
    Here, everyone is unique in their own way. They all vary in size from the towering Knightman.exe to the tiny Iceman.exe and many of them retained some of their original attacks. Not every NetNavi is an antagonist as well. Gutsman.exe goes the entire series as a rival to Megaman.exe but generally helps. The most colorful character of the series, Match, constantly changes his NetNavi and sides. He appears in every game except for 5 operates Fireman.exe, Heatman.exe and Flamman.exe and will either be a random NPC, a villain or just some guy trying to find his way.

  • @peternguyen7530
    @peternguyen7530 Год назад +6

    @Maximilian Dood You just skipped Tenguman.EXE Tengu Man is from Megaman 8, and Battle Network made an emphasis on the tengu design here.

    • @Linkaro2
      @Linkaro2 Месяц назад +1

      He did mention that is is only familiar with the NES games so he rating just those and not 7/8.

  • @2sallads
    @2sallads Год назад +1

    I think reviewing these designs while not understanding their story importance and reason for looking the way they do kinda undermines the effort put into the designs. Love a lot of them and they make complete sense in their respective games.

  • @drewstar8611
    @drewstar8611 Год назад +5

    Give half these character a scarf and a sabre and the ratings would jump 10 fold

  • @gamerkingdom1442
    @gamerkingdom1442 Год назад +8

    I actually loved the designs of Battle Network. There are some misses, but overall good designs…
    Although I do admit, some a really out there. 😅

  • @starbutter2730
    @starbutter2730 Год назад +3

    Ive never played this series before nor did I ever grow up around it all but i fucking LOVE these designs, theyre all suuuper imaganitive and charming. I really need to grab a copy of the collection and finally dive in

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 Год назад +3

    My personal favourite redesign is the Gospel virus from 2. Don't recognize him? It's Treble!

  • @the1niddo
    @the1niddo Год назад +4

    I'm the opposite: I grew up on MMBN so when I see the old Classic designs most of the time I go "wow that's boring".
    Like I get it, its not my era. But its amusing to see someone from that era react to the MMBN designs.

  • @ViKatamari
    @ViKatamari Год назад +4

    Bass looks SO GOOD in this

  • @fapuloes
    @fapuloes Год назад +2

    I really liked how crazy they went with some of the designs and how much character it gives them compared to their original NES counterparts which for the most parts were just simple tokusatsu villains. But some of them are a bit overdesigned and jaring like Metal Man for example

  • @animagamer2
    @animagamer2 Год назад +2

    Loved this. I hope Max does more videos like this! Even if the die-hards can't take anyone having negative feelings towards something they like. I grew up playing BN too guys, I get it- but let the man say his piece! Of course, he will be based on his own aesthetic preferences. Isn't that the whole point of a video like this?

  • @ivanjm2707
    @ivanjm2707 Год назад +3

    Never would've expected this video but as Palpatine once said, "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one"

  • @TheNegronomicon
    @TheNegronomicon Год назад +3

    Based on the amount of dislikes and comments, I was expecting Max to trash on everything. He liked most of them and only really dumped on the weird ones. What we have here are a bunch of people too hung up on his personal tastes and a few things he said. He should've given his usual disclaimer about his opinions and people not looking too much into his reasoning. And here I was expecting the second coming of that Jump Force video. Now that was a fun video to watch.

  • @ranwilliams1117
    @ranwilliams1117 Год назад +2

    What is killin this review for me is Max's lack of understanding that their not robot masters or reploids their netnavi's. Virtual bodies in the net which is why they are slimmer and some more human looking. I did enjoy his banter though as well as the video 😂

  • @vstpnv
    @vstpnv Год назад +2

    What I personally find cool about those designs is that they are basically handled by the team, that does design for mainline series now. So looking at them we can kinda grasp what Mega Man character designs would look like in 12 and further games, or in that one leaked "big budget Mega Man title" that they've been working on for years.
    Even if I don't quite love Battle Network or Star Force series, they surely were made with a lot of love for classics and that's what matters.

  • @MichaelManning15
    @MichaelManning15 Год назад +5

    I can die happily once Legends Legacy Collection is released

    • @Lunatic89097
      @Lunatic89097 Год назад +5

      Throw in Starforce as well. Those fans need their shine!

    • @MegaManXPoweredUp
      @MegaManXPoweredUp Год назад

      I want a Collection of all the weird spinoffs. Mega Man Soccor, Command Mission, Network Transmission, The Misadventures Of Tron Bonne, Operation Shooting Star, etc.

  • @KyriosJones
    @KyriosJones Год назад +9

    PharaohMan.EXE is so sick. Max is on dust

  • @ChaossX77
    @ChaossX77 Год назад +1

    I haven't seen your channel in ages and holy shit your intro animation is unbelievable!

  • @Gamesmarts194
    @Gamesmarts194 Год назад +2

    Anyone else think these ratings were more based off nostalgia than just general design? Like yes most of them weren’t closer to the original, but they’re not really TRYING to.

  • @Eibon
    @Eibon Год назад +10

    When you compared Elec Man to a Persona I couldn't help but feel that's...actually what they kinda are for MMBN. They aren't robots anymore.

  • @Bandit_Llanura
    @Bandit_Llanura Год назад +7

    Talking as someone with no experience with the mega man Battle Network side. some of the desings are cool as hell maybe is MAx being a grampa but something like Heatman is an 10/10 for me. I love the wacky shit

    • @Darkslayer289
      @Darkslayer289 Год назад

      ​@@Feroce I personally liked Protoman's design. Battle Network was my introduction to these characters. To each their own, I guess.

  • @thewinterprince1731
    @thewinterprince1731 Год назад +1

    In the anime, Metalman was called Heavymetalman. It's more of a mouthful, but I think it's also kinda badass, especially since the saws on his shoulders are actually his weapons and they are literally just GIANT SAWBLADES.

  • @shadowmaksim
    @shadowmaksim Год назад +2

    The fact that Max disliked most of these redesigns, or at least thought they were worse than the originals, doesn't really surprise me. This very much is that era of Japanese animation that he generally doesn't like. And as another commenter put it, these designs had a much different focus, more on powers and transformations than the actual "man" part. So it can create that feeling of something being too traditional yet too different at the same time, which Max seemed to keep flipping back and forth on.
    Though, it also doesn't help that Max doesn't really have any nostalgia for the series. As awesome as Max can be, he tends to be the "stay in your lane" type of person. Kind of a trend that stuff he's unfamiliar with or hadn't grown up with usually doesn't go too well in his perspective...to put it nicely.

  • @soulsofdeath2569
    @soulsofdeath2569 Год назад +3

    I think max needs to see the designs in action and then re-react to how he feels about them after. Lot of these designs don't work on their own. You got to see them while their in action to fully understand why they changed the designs in the way they did.

  • @KogashiwaKai
    @KogashiwaKai Год назад +4

    Man Max's tastes are horrible.
    Like really hating the HEAT MAN?

  • @ShahroozSmith
    @ShahroozSmith Год назад +2

    They straight up turned Shadow Man into Strider.EXE.

  • @rus.t
    @rus.t Год назад +2

    I love these game collections Capcom is releasing lately. You can just scroll through the menu jamming to each game’s themes or thumb through the artworks & concept art.

  • @91shawny
    @91shawny Год назад +3

    I clicked on the video so fast when I saw MMBN and I already knew what to expect with the ratings but even just doing a video on it giving it a spotlight is a win in my book. Also, CRAZY NOT GIVING PROTOMAN 10/10

  • @AStandsForFrench
    @AStandsForFrench Год назад +6

    Unfortunately max has transitioned from dad to boomer with this video

  • @joelraynor15
    @joelraynor15 Год назад +1

    Summoning Elec Man as a Persona
    "PERSONA!" shoots self with a stun gun

  • @sbktdreed
    @sbktdreed Год назад +1

    There was a boss design contest for Mega Man 2-8 rosters, Battle Network 2 (GateMan), 3 Navis each in BN 3-6, and Kung Foo Kid & Moon Destroyer for Star Force 2 & 3 respectively.