RATE THE SUPER: DNF Duel
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2022
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Max returns for another Rate the Super, this time with the newly released DNF Duel and rates out everyone's crazy, cinematic super moves on a scale from 1 to 10!
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I want Trouble Shooter's "Have a Good Time" to be the start of every round.
"Round 1! Have a good time!"
'Already on it'
- modders, probably
Someone needs to mod Max's voice into troubleshooter
We really do need more fighting games to have character voice announcer packs.
“Bye, have a good time” 👍
Heaven or Hell!
Duel 1!
Have a good time!
It's remarkable how much impact is lost when you don't get the big "KAY OHH" freeze at the end of the supers.
"Only Juri fans are gonna end up playing her"
...And I took that personally.
Same lol
Yeah, I feel insulted.
Yeah uh. Unsubed.
I saw it as a challenge.
Hey fun fact, it hasn't been a week since this game came out and someone added goku from dbfz into this game
It came out yesterday
@@brendanbyrne5218 *today
Beautiful
No way?!
Arcsys might as well make a One Piece fighter and have a modder add Goku to that one too!
Grappler really hit him with the Hidden Lotus.
We all need more Lotus in our lives.
RATE THE SUPER: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4: Road to Boruto... god, that would be WAY too long... not the title, it's pretty damn long, too, but the video itself... Just the simple Ultimates Compilation videos are long enough, but to squeeze in ratings and stuff as well? There are more characters in that game than there is in BlazBlue, and many of them have more than one ultimate.
glad someone said it
@@GrahamChapman I'd say if they do it, they should only to the hidden techniques and that's it, even the special ones depending on the group of characters. If he goes through everyone it would take 2 hours lmao
@@blyat8832 Yeah... And Max isn't _that_ much into anime fighters anyway...
I think Ranger has the best. If you feel it's missing that "oomph", then I think you get it if you kill with it. The one final bullet into the freeze screen hits so hard.
Not too mention how he finishes it off with an "Adios"
I wish it actually showed the last bullet traveling though, the last hit effectively happens offscreen
This why I tend to not watch these videos because Max can be so contradictory with his ratings. Gives a 10 for Swiftmaster but not a 10 for Ranger which I agree is a 10.
Ranger is definitely a 9 or 10. I think it is just that max has seen that super 100 times already.
honestly, I just love the way he goes "Oooookay!" at the start, makes it seem like he's starting taking things a bit more seriously and is completely done with your shit before he uses Seventh Flow
I feel like a large amount of the impact is lost because you don't see HP bars going down during the attacks. It's not really the same as an instant-kill attack where you know it's going to end the match; you want to see how much each hit does. At least the developers did a good job staying loyal to the source material.
He's already seen most of the supers during the trailers and betas. Of course the surprise will be lost now.
@@Chronuz I really didn't get much of a punchy feel, it feels like the supers start and finish kind of the same even when it's a huge beam, like it's just all too smooth imo. It's like if Ryu did his shinku shoryuken and it just went full speed, the whole impact from build up, the really fast punch and then the opponent's face as Ryu builds up another is just lost if you skip the slower moments and make it all smoother and sped up
Edit: i forgor
Fair point, it would be strange to have the HP bars there though given how cinematic these supers are. I am sure the devs considered it.
@@Chronuz That isn't what he meant. Just that not seeing the HP makes them less impactful, not surprising. As fighting game players HP is the measure of damage, so if you don't see the HP go down, it doesn't feel like damage is being done until after the super.
@@theBrid-gv8je ma man said tatsu shoryuken 💀
"Only Juri fans will end up playing her." That stings Max. Juri will finally be top tier in SF6. You'll see... You'll see....
They'll all see (cue pumped up kicks)
Ok but will you guys play her despite her being hard
@@Zeronigel332 yes
@@Zeronigel332 Yeah but so are we nerd
And guess what, you were right!
2:32
This one made the DMC fan in me go wild
Also 8:11 more for Dante fans and 6:38 for Vergil fans.
I think part of the reason Swiftmaster's super stands out is that most characters super takes place in the same rocky terrain and cloudy skies, while Swiftmaster's super is a lot brighter, taking place mostly in a tornado and then the clear skies.
I WANT to like Swift's. But I feel after realizing it's just Chipp's Zansei Rouga I have to knock off points for laziness.
Same with Striker's. It's just Banki Messai.
“It’s your general LuBu dynasty warriors super,it’s a big swing” 😂😂👍🏽
I have to admit, these supers are kind of of a bit basic but the developers did some good job on making the supers to be what it does like in the original game. Although, I wonder if there will be neo awakening as special skins in Dnf Duel? If so, there supers would be lot cooler alright.
It's an ArkSys game, they don't do skins or costumes
@@ilovemesomevideogame nevermind the fact that they already have in DBFZ
@@WayneRosePeachMilk Dbfz literally just changes colors there isn’t different costumes
these supers are basic? tf are you smoking lmao
@@riyaadh9187 Looking at other games it’s defo basic
Ranger's is definitely my favourite. It totally satisfies the fantasy of a dual-pistol user for me. It's quick, flashy and acrobatic. Great little moment at the start with him peering out from beneath the brim of his hat. Zips towards the opponent, zooms around them, then finishes with an awesome spinning flip into the final shot. The supers overall are pretty decent but not amazing. I can only hope this is the start of a good fighting game series that they'll expand on. They certainly have plenty of characters they could add.
Lost Warrior really did have the most lackluster super of them all. Dude's basic kit is more stylish than his super, what the heck?
I think Swift Master is the best simply because it's not set in the same featureless grey rocky plateau. Would have loved to see these supers but set on the actual stages.
lol, guess where the development saved money at?
Yeah... a few things about this game just give me "unfinished" vibes for some reason. The UI and rocky plateau being the biggest offenders
@@ZeroStrife1396 Considering ArcSystem has both this and GG Strive on their plate, it's not that surprising
@@TheGraveKnight
I mean... There's those two and on top of that they're still supporting Granblue. Game just got a huge patch that actually added mechanics and I think they've hinted to another season of DLC. They also just got done with DBFZ... so at some point they were juggling *at least* 4 games at the same time.
Then there's the rollback ports with Persona 4 being worked on rn. Which tbf, probably falls on team Blue rather than Red, but some employees are involved in both AFAIK.
There's just something about the presentation that feels bland to me personally (And I actually like strive's UI).
@@ZeroStrife1396 Basically they have *alot* of projects and as a result some seem to get priority over others
this game really needs some bass boost on the hit sounds NGL
I agree, glad im not the only one who feels like the audio falls a little short at some points
Yeah i feel the same. Theres another game where their supers wefe like that i forget which one
a lot of the japanese fighting games have piss poor audio honestly. Even Street fighter has bad sound compared to something like MK
@@TBContent24 Only street fighter 5 sounds bad .
I think part of the reason why these supers seem generally unspectacular is the sfx. They often don’t sound as damaging as they appear, with some exceptions
The sounds are rather low but also have this "crunchy" sound to them that seems to be a thing nowadays. Netherrealm seem to be the ones that started this with Injustice onwards you hear the crunchiness especially with gunshots in those games. Can't think of a better way to describe it lol
My favorite is Dragon Knight's. I love the close up shot of her face you get right before she swings, her battle cry during the swing, and the way the sword slices the dragon's tornado attack in half.
These pop so much more when they're KOs, especially the Inquisitor.
"This characters so sick man, i wanna learn how to play them" - Max. Legit me to every single character
I know this isn't related to the vid but i wish max could do a rate the super for pokken tournament, i know its a pretty unconventional fighting game due to its constant switch between 2d-3d but i feel the game deserves to be featured someday.
Same. There are pretty good Supers/Burst Attacks in that game.
Bezerkers is underrated, probably because it was the first one you rated, but it's actually pretty awesome looking.
5:43 "Let's make her so bad that only juri fans will play her."
Me a juri main/fan 😎
looks like I just found a new main.
Please no. I only ran into one online so far but the experience was just me blocking in the corner until I made the mistake of pushing a single button and then dieing, every single round.
@@krodmandoon3479 ah yes this is what I love to see
8:43
You said it's not incredible but its funny because "Incredible" is the name of the super lol
Was hoping to find this comment. XD
Honestly, from the developers of FighterZ, I'd expect cooler supers tbh
Surely most of the supers are just references in FZ but they could have taken notes on what made these moments cool
Question: does lost warrior have legs or is he just a floating torso?
@@_Jay_Maker_ so would that mean there’s also a pair of sentient legs too?
@@fedoraking3611 Future DLC
In DNF, Carloso,the god of creation shattered and lost warrior is a piece of him.
Floating torso he is a shard of a shattered god
It's a beard
2:18 Sir, that's a damn Rider Kick. Shares heavy similarities with Zero One
Troubleshooter is an 8? Max gives himself a good amount of credit I'd say
Ah I was waiting for this
I'm glad the supers are "simple" because we will be watching them A LOT OF TIMES, multiple times during a match/round even. Anything long would get very boring
@ They aren’t invincible either so literally they’re just a big damage ender from how it looks
Not really but okay lol
@ wow thats awesome. no more cheese to win then.
@@magmaspacer1967 Except Grappler, his is fast enough you can try using it as wake-up, unless they changed it from beta.
@@TheKazuma410P meaties exist and he's not invulnerable on super
totally agree with lost warrior here, he literally has the power to stop time on you, why did they not utalize that?! like a good ol' Zasalamel ult from SC VI
i felt like every character that has a blade and can swing fast he easly get the best features in the game , ghostblade is my favorite character in DNF of all time (specialy his cinematic trailer )
the fact that trouble shooter looks like max is awesome to me
I had to come back to Ranger at 2:37 once Max had been through them all, and I really feel like he's got the best super in the game.
It takes his quick, blinding speed and gunplay making it impossible for the opponent to track where he is. Then once they're totally off guard the moment has built up to him being totally still, and just him smugly hanging on to deliver the kill shot. - Not only that, but the impact of that hit carries over back into the gameplay transition way better than any of the others.
It's not a mind-blowing super that makes you want to stand up in awe, but there's something about the delivery that _feels_ super satisfying that matches the tone of the character.
9:24 I can never unsee this now xD
Bro, I think 80% of these supers end in a pillar of flame/light etc. They definitely needed to work on that. So many supers feel the same.
These supers don’t really show much character aside from the funny guy talks shit and blows you up, and maybe the knight lady who burns you like a witch. I think back to Xrd’s supers and instant kills. Baiken’s is cool in such a subdued way, Dizzy’s shows off her kind nature, Faust is a funny man. Even Street Fighter 4 and 5, whose supers can be a bit lackluster, have their characters show off who they are. Juri saying something horny before snapping your neck and G’s Uncle Sam point to camera before blasting your ass, those are iconic. I get nothing from watching character’s I’ve never seen before do a cool move.
Also thank you for the video Max, you’re doing great 👍
Agreed, and a few feel very similar too which doesn't help
In the defense of the characters I don't think they have "character" like they're just what they are. Grappler is a Grappler etc.
Meanwhile as a player of dfo i mark out at these because i actually know what the hell is going on
I think you might just have some sort of bias with these games meaning more to you, can you really not see the difference in Berserker and Vanguard's Furiosity, how Ranger and Hitman look when gunning down their opponent, Striker having a flurry while Grappler has a technique, Troubleshooter being expressive and Launcher being cold, those small things seem to be there even if the characters are just "classes" originally.
... i've said it before back when he rated the supers in CVS2... and i'll say it again.
... these ratings would probably be very different if he saw them the way they SHOULD be seen; as FINISHERS.
... he should have really set the health for the second player to something low so that each Awakening Special killed the enemy, leaving that "finishing touch" effect.
The one I think is best (the one that sold me most on it being a giant, in-character, finishing blow) was
Ranger's and I'd give his a 9/10 with several other 9s and 8s among the roster.
For me here are my rankings:
Berserker: 9/10
Vanguard: 6/10
Striker: 7.5
Grappler: 8/10
Hitman: 7/10
Ranger: 7/10
Launcher: 8/10
Inquisitor: 6.5/10
Crusader: 7/10
Swift Master: 8.5/10
Enchantress: 5/10
Kunoichi: 8/10
Ghost Blade: 10/10
Dragon Knight: 10/10
Troubleshooter: 6.5/10
Lost Warrior: 5/10
wow its like two max vids in one
My favourite is very clearly Strikers. It does everything perfectly. Action right after the trigger hit with a combo attack followed by a fantastic windup with huge cinematic payoff and enough of a delay until return to gameplay to take in what just happened. Pretty much every other super falls short in one of these steps. Ofcourse there is personal preference to consider but for me and my taste this is one of the best supers I have ever seen in any fighting game
Wait till you hear about Chipp's Banki Messai
Although it could be purely opinions, I feel like your ratings have kind of helped me to be non-biased when judging someone's super or ultimate special move. Thanks for that, and thank you for another amazing Rate The Super!!!
imo, compared to arc system's previous title GBVS, these supers lack the "impact" (with the exception of a few, like the inquisitor's super) created from the amazing camera works.
I don't feel any of them is bad but missing that little something to make them truly memorable.
Not to mention, if all characters only have 1 super, they don't feel quite as special compared to landing, and ending a match with an SSBA and getting the special victory pose in GBVS.
I really wanna like them more but I feel most of them fall short just a bit from being amazing.
surprised he gave the giant bear doll super a 7/10. i think its like a 4/10 because its feels obvious, and the build up of the move ends abruptly.
It feels like these supers kind of miss a lot of the impact from how they are so sped up
The weak sound effects don't help either.
I think my only problem with the supers is that the KO screen comes before the full impact of the sound effect. If you're going to make the game freeze for a KO, at least let the full super rock. Otherwise, do it like DBFZ where the action keeps going past the KO screen. Either way works, but they chose the one with the least impact.
woah wtf did us juri fans do to get lumped into playing gothic lolita, i feel attacked
What I liked about Ghostblade's super is the sound profile.
Arc System watching this and takin notes, theyre gonna redo most of the supers for a future patch
I honestly wouldn't mind an update that added a different version of the super if it kills
I'd have to say my top 3 are Striker, Kunoichi and either Dragon Knight or Enchantress. But I think that all the supers are awesome and each super really suits its respective character, they did extremely well imo.
I have never seen a game that goes so well with "All flash, no substance" as this one
Idk if it’s the game or Max edited it out, but there being no music that matches the super really kills the vibe for most of these, they’d be so sick with a rockin BGM but there’s dainty little flutes in the back
Rate the Super with the Capcom Fighting Collection video would be cool. I know Vampire Savior and Super Gem Fighter have great ones.
Exactly what Max said at the outro. Have fun with these because eventually they will get old. These ultimates sell copies and definitely had me buy the game especially after trying both betas too
- Max sees next character's super
Max: This has to be the best super in the game
Personally, I think what was missing in these supers is emphasizing what was happening to the opponent during the super. Like in GGS, some supers showed off reactions from the players being punished, and it was great. Helped to sell the impact that much more. Here, some of the supers feel like you barely see the target character at all.
Just like in DFO but there's usually more shit on the screen and the target has taken the damage or is dead.
@@durntfives8681 Ah, maybe it was intentional, then?
@@Aleckai Very Intentionally designed cause in PvP for DFO not Dnf Duel will never see an awakening. EVER... I will not go into detail why just know that.
"These supers are gonna get old fast" DLC supers are coming, I'm calling it.
Grappler's super is literally Rock Lee's hidden lotus. 10/10
from what we've seen so far..... this is great
Man Arc system works and there fighting games…
Amazingly well done animated supers. ❤️👍💫
This Anime looks almost like a fighting game.
I feel like a lot of these feel really basic, like I was really expecting them to do awakening skills, like grappler punches you in the ground so hard that it spawns an active volcano under you, grabs the boulder you were on then punches you skywards splitting the boulder and erupts the volcano. Or Ranger grabbing and boomaranging 6-8 guns around you grabbing each one and throws them again. launcher grabbing a mech then shoots you and a city to blitz. And Crusader summoning the fucking rapture so bright that it eluminates half the planet.
In summary Give me neos you cowards
Berserker, Ghost Blade, and Dragon have my faves by _far_ , but really, every single one is a cinematic accomplishment.
Except Lost Warrior's, but just his
"I really wanna like this more, but..."
this actually describes my entire experience with this game.
They seem to be in line with arcsys supers dbfz had a lot of one hit supers to flashy cinematics. Looks fun to watch, I want to play but don’t know how long I could grind out these fighters. Hopefully a review of the online mode comes soon
I never noticed the cube affect behind the character before they do a super till now. Cube skills from the MMO. :D
At this point we're desensitized to how awesome all of them are honestly
max is rating these supers way higher than I expected. not many of these would go above a 7 for me
Jesus's super feels like Metatron's Fires of Sinai in SMT V
The tall lanky guy has the best super hands down. He even starts it with engrish
"O. K. "
5:48 nice Pokémon Gigantimax impression :D
2:06 I'm reminded of the MVC2 ship stage
2:30 Nine foot tall dude with legs for days is like Vermillion and Nagisa from Toshinden 3.
I feel a possible issue is only having cinematic supers than also having more normal ones
Lost Warrior is so based that his legs turned into a beard.
Ranger camera work pumps it up to 10/10 for me.
"7 out of 10, a decent starter" The chaarcter you compared it to you gave a 10/10 lol
5:02 A Swift 10 Out Of 10 From The Swift Master!
there is an offness to these supers, but props is still really deserved since they have lots of great camera motion and cinematics, just missing that sound and impact that you need for a good super
The lu bu reference brought me back to childhood for brief moment
Oh how I wish Trouble Shooter said “LET’S GO!”
Max basically gave them one point higher on everything than I did.
I love that he calls it a "general Lu Bu Dynasty Warriors super"
Was just searching for this.
Did you find it?
@@viewtifulnovanorman9059 Yes I have, well worth it.
As a fan of the OG game, the fact that Launcher has F.Mechanic's outfit drives me actually insane.
Bruh ranger’s super is literally one of joon gi han’s supers from yakuza 7
the guys at yakuza might have been inspired.. since DFO is far older than Yakuza 7
More like the opposite
@@samuelsun3560 oh shit you’re right
DFO's skills have tons of references to other video games and anime so it's likely where it was inspired by. Just as another example, the Male Mechanic class in DFO literally has Jin's Blodia Punch super as a skill, Elven Knight has a skill that basically does Giga Drill Breaker from TTGL but with a tree, and Specialist does a double reppuken but with a sword
From what we've seen so far I think what we've seen so far is what we've seen so far.
I wish this game was actual a beat 'em up like the original Dungeon Fighter Online. Imagine an actual, not pay-to-win, beat 'em up game animated by ArcSystems? Specially since the genre is on the Renaissance Era with Streets of Rage 4 and TMNT Shredder's Revenge.
Grappler hitting you with the Makoto SA2 from Street Fighter 3
2:50
"Featuring Dante from the Devi May Cry series!"
My favorite is troubleshooter. He feels like the only character in a game full classes.
He should definitely rate the ninja storm ultimates that would be crazy
The real "cool factor" would be from fans of the DFO itself. Even then I feel like the Awakening attacks in DFO looked a little better.
Karate guy reminds me so much of Sega-san Shiro the OG Dream Cast mascot. LOLZ
Hitman's is easily a 10/10
it should be three jesuses, you max, are one of them
Shocked by Max giving the majority of supers 6 or 7/10, despite them all looking AMAZING. 15, hell, 10 years ago these would all have been 10/10. We've really gotten spoiled....
My only issue with this series is you should be doing supers to KO its so much more epic!!
5:43 "Only Juri fans are going to end up playing her"
As a Juri main/fan I can agree that Enchantress is my main in DNF so he wasn't wrong LOL
Can't wait for Street Fighter 6 rate the super next year
4:28 ... It's "Celestial Star" from Valkyrie Profile. Holy shit
I think it would be cool if they added unlockable super animations. I wanna have like 5 supers and set it to random so it’s a surprise which one plays every time it’s used