RATE THE SUPER: Guilty Gear Strive
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If you land Heavenly Potemkin Buster on Chipp in english, he goes "OH MY GOOOOOOOOD" in abstract horror. It's great.
Chipp knows that his health bar can't handle what pot is about to do to it XD
When i heard it yesterday i was like who jist shit themselves i was so confused bc i thought it was someone in my party
I know he wasn’t out at the time of this (I don’t think) but I love that happy chaos just goes “this is gonna suck”
@@raiyano7436 and gio is just wondering if it's gonna hurt lmao
Abstract horror is the scariest kind.
14:04 I'm not sure if this is official but apparently Faust is trying to help you up here since he knocked you down looking at the clover but accidentally just rams the wheelchair into your shins. Good to know he's still as helpful as ever despite his...makeover
I mean, if you listen to his English voiceover during the super, this is pretty explicit.
Honestly, the English dub makes Faust's Bone Crushing Excitement so much better. Nothing beats Zato just nonchalantly going "yup, that's broken".
From how I understand it Faust is actually still the same guy who wants to help people. His "condition" just doesn´t convey it. I mean when he beats you he hands you a bottle of painkillers and if you beat him he says "you are all better now".
He has a few voice lines, one being "hold up, I'll help you."
Yeah I’d heard about the voice lines, but with the way he talks it’s kinda hard to tell wether he’s being sincere or not
@@webbowser8834 "Yes that did hurt"
Zato's light super was what made me go from "Yeah, this game looks pretty good" to "This is the best cell-shading in the business now".
Took me a bit to realize what he was doing. He was making a harder light source to cast a bigger shadow.
@@Azurada23rd Yeah, really. The first time I used it, Eddie was already doing a splash right in front of me, so I had NO CLUE what it was doing. I thought he was throwing a light ball, which made no sense.
That is such an awesome detail now that you point it out.
@@PissedGrunty he basically just makes a huge hand shadow shark I love it
The shading reminded me a little bit of some scenes by Yutaka Nakamura.
I love how axl’s time stop actually stops the round timer too
I may be getting grabbed from across the screen but I can really appreciate how good Axl's animations look
Best thing about Zatos super is that Eddie is mimicking him with the hand clap/bite
Also I read somewhere that he’s creating a light source in order to make eddies shadow larger which is dope
Is it that hard to understand?
where do you see eddie mimicking the hand bite
@@spellfrfx1124 look at Zatos hands during the beginning of the super and then pay attention to eddies form throughout the entire shark bite
So it's a giant shadow puppet.
Genius
@@user-op2bh7rc9z ahh i see
14:58
It's funny because Max cut off part of the animation here but he left in the rant in which he says "now I know why chat wanted me to look at Giovanna's".
Chat was spamming him to look up Giovanna's cutscene when she gets hit by Faust's super and when Max did, he immediately understood the trap he had fallen into when Giovanna falls on her back with the camera pointing at her massive bouncing cleavage.
Deep in our hearts, we all know the Heavenly Potemkin Buster is the GOAT
With jp dub of course
@@unnamedx2 of course
BUSTAAAAAA
To be honest I prefer his super from Xrd since you get a much better look at his screaming opponent.
@@Renoistic But Strive's Pot.Buster takes enemy to Nirvana. That's pretty cool.
@@unnamedx2 HEAVENRY
“Haha I might die”- Zato when he gets BUSTERD
He says “I’m beginning to think I might die” or “I see… I give up.” There’s another line too, but I forgot what it was.
Well it wouldn't be the first time
not again
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
My headcanon is that one of the dev if not Ishiwatari himself has experienced getting hit in the shin by a wheelchair and then thought, "Yeah, that hurts a friggin lot, it should be a fighting game super"
He hit his ankle with a scooter one day and wanted to incorporate that experience into a game
“This seems like the most ridiculous overpowered thing in THE WORLD”, cause it’s Za Warudo
It literally is! he even does the pose with the snap!
@@lchassefang
They knew
All we need now is for Axl to clap and teleport.
"Za Warudo" sounds stupid.
@@donkeydarko77 It's because it comes from Dio, a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure character who can stop time and he screams at top of his lungs "THE WORLD!!!" while he does it, except it's japanese engrish and it sounds more like "za warudo". It's hilarious and everyone loves it.
8:15 I'd argue that May's Orca is actually small by orca standards.
Yamada, too
@@Iffem Yeah if you look at it Yamada looks more like a baby/juvenile whale
@@hannana.4319 tfw May uses whale child labour
@@mthsdcs like the demon she is
@@mthsdcs May would
Chipp’s supers may not be the strongest, but they are the coolest
HELL YEAH THEY ARE
FIGHT LIKE A TIGER
they aren’t THAT weak though to be fair
@@harrisonlichtenberg3162 WALK IN THE PYRE!
I can't be the only one that wants a rate the super dbz budakai 3
Even though we're hoping for instant kills to arrive, let's just point out the animation and attention to detail on these supers, it's a fantastic treat for the eyes. Especially Ky with the flowing hair!
Strive is gonna be updated and supported for years to come. I wouldn't count out IKs.
I can't wait to see Max do a rate the insta-kills. I feel like they would make up for the lack of cinematic supers in this version.
It's amazing
Yeah but WHEN? I don't wanna wait around the time they announce strive 2 or as season 4 dlc
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 There's gonna be more characters and they're all gonna need flashy cinematic animations. With Japan still in a state of emergency, I don't know how much development's been slowed.
I just don’t understand why the Heavenly Potemkin Buster’s victims screams are so muted this time around, so much of the appeal in Xrd was (most) everyone’s visible and verbal terror, and now it’s just sorta peaceful
They definitely aren't muted in English. Chip screams oh my god at the top of his lungs in sheer terror right before having his spine cracked in half.
In a way they know they are going to Heaven, why would they be anything other than sorta peaceful
I can handle a giant orca,
I can tolerate a multi-slash,
But for the love of God, my shins had NOTHING to do with this. Faust is GOAT.
Sure, the other characters might decimate you with magic, guns and swords but getting hit in the shin is a different kind of brutal. Faust truly is a monster.
The little fella is trying to help
The Aegis reflector goes to 11/10 when used against Ramlethal's laser super.
You're blasting a double blade Hadouken and zhis dude just *s l o w l y* walks though it.
"Why Won't You DIE!?"
*"SHEER WILLPOWER"*
You mean Potemkin's Giganter? (Aka. The wall super)
19:08 "Gio's bored by it". Rei, on the other hand, seems very perturbed.
Which is good, because between them they are displaying both the "oh crap oh crap oh crap!" *and* the "Christ, this again" that the player is simultaneously feeling in that moment.
Without even watching, we all gotta agree Potemkin and Faust’s are GOAT
meh they're lol funni memes but they're not THAT goated
@@chitoo95 Max's curve relies heavily on spectacle, to be fair, and multiple permutations based off opponent helps.
@@chitoo95 That's precisely why they are. Pots is honestly sick, as he brings you all the way up to presumably Heaven, then back down.
While Fausts is unique, in that he's greatly injuring you with something that no one would consider a weapon. The goofy faces are the icing on the cake.
@@KaminariHouse It's made better knowing that Faust accidentally knocks you over because he sees the four leaf clover, then thinks you're having a stroke so tries to pick you up with the wheelchair to help you and hits your shin.
@@chitoo95 You couldn't be cappin more
For the Nago's first super, at the begining when it zoom on the blade, you can see a skeleton. This skeleton is from a piece of art from Utagawa Kuniyoshi, drawn in 1844, called Takiyasha the witch and the ghost's skeleton. Now you can give it a 10 !
That's an amazing observation, thank you for sharing.
I seem to remember it being called a gashadokuro? Gasyadokuro? I think it’s an oni from Japanese myth, I love that little cherry on top
@@roninazaxar Youre right it is in fact Gashadokuro
Not a 10. But it's cool
Nago is a conflicting character to me, the mix of vampire + samurai is freaking awesome (it's like Blade in a way, but more anime)... but at the same time, it feels like Nago tries way too hard to be japanese. There was name for it, right? Weeaboo? Nago is the definition of a weeaboo, but he is cool at the same time
Not sure if this will ever happen, but since you did "Rate the Themes" for ggst but only the short clips, a Rate the Theme for the entire tracks would be amazing, though not sure if he would be up to it sadly.
I'd love a "Rate the Stages" too. For Guilty Gear specifically, because they have some nutty-looking stages.
agreed, the preview does zato’s theme so dirty
@@Hellscrap3r Strive's stages are pretty tame.
I hope he does a Rate the Themes for the other games too, like Umvc3, KI etc
@@VVVaire Zato got it pretty bad by not showing his genre-swap, but Axl's was literally the worst part of his song, I think he got it worse.
Lorewise, it makes sense for Ky's Dragon Install to be centered around his eye and the corresponding half of his body, and not be a full transformation the way Sol's is.
6:35
Milia in GG1 didn’t have her Winger Super. She had a super called Iron Maiden. Daisuke being a rock nerd as usual.
And then she had Senbon Sakura Kagehoushi as her IK in Xrd for all you Bleach fans.
@@ProjectH1980 I was reminded more of Xemnas in Kingdom Hearts II.
was that the one where she launches 3 huge spinning sticks?
@@ProjectH1980 yeah, one of the reasons I liked it.
I know this isn't a comparison between previous versions of the supers, but this is definitely my favorite version of Ride the Lightning, mostly because of the added slash at the end giving it some impact previous versions were missing.
Edit: also, Sols Tyrant Rave looks sick in his Ky skin, with the blue fire
Ik right? Ky looks fly af when he finishes the super
Ride the Lightning is so good in this game, the last slash adds a ton of oomph and the slower zoom in at the start gives it so much more of a sense of rhythm (idk how else to describe it)
@@harb1ng3r82 I think maybe you're referring to how much "momentum" the slow camera pan builds up.
I also love how with Fausts wheelchair, he doesn't even mean to hurt ya. Accidentally knocks ya over looking at the 4 leaf clover then tryna help. Muh boi.
Gio's 2nd super makes me wish the dog had more of a role in her moveset in general.
idk, we already have zato
I love you so much for giving Faust’s wheelchair super a 10/10 :)
I think XX and Xrd ones are better, but it's definitely the best one in this game
16:19 fun fact, that pose he does is a 100% direct reference to Jotaro's pose in the JOJO arcade fighting game.
AN ACTUAL JOJO REFERENCE?
But yeah, I think it's a pose from the manga even, I remember seeing it in other games where Jotaro is playable as well like JUS for the DS
Mmmhm.
Most of these SUPERS are heavily influenced by SNK 90s games
The even the lower rated ones look great visually
This game has a lot of effort, but cuts a lot of corners at the same time. I feel conflicted about how Arc handled this game.
@@protoluigi2047 Cut corners? Like what, for example?
@@protoluigi2047 Well, I just found an interview with the game director which doesn't precisely mentions anything about cut corners or anything like that, i may need to look into it a bit harder. On the other hand, removing insta-kills seems in line with the direction they wanted for the game, i don't think anyone but long time fans would be thrilled about insta kill moves in Strive.
Beautiful in terms of animation, but in terms of substance and creativity, Xrd is way above. This isn't the prettiest GG to me, even if people are going wild with how it sold. That doesn't sit well with me.
@@Canthary There's some technically lacking stuff on Strive compared to other GG games, like for example: No M.O.M. mode, proper Combo mode, Digital Figure mode... just to name a few.
It's pretty clear this game is hella pushed for online with serious lack of singleplayer content to do, which would be fine if one of the trailers didn't try to sell this game as something that both offline and online players can enjoy. Because clearly, that's simply not the case.
Just look at the ammount of content older GG and BB games in general has compared to Strive, now even Instant Kills, a core mechanic of this IP's just gone, what's gonna be next on the chopping list? Dust?
All this lack of stuff in modern FG's is just a big shame, all these games are only meant to be worth playing online only, and when the next GG comes out and rollback netcode could become the norm, you'll probably have no reason to revisit this game ever again.
14:15
You can see Ram's soul just leave her body and go to heaven in that moment
The best one is Potemkin super vs May, she screams very dramatics "Jhonnnyyyyy" or "heeeeelp"
pot vs pot: "HOW DID HE STEAL MY TECHNIQUEEEEEE"
Anji is great on the Japanese dub as well.
She always screams johnny somehow
nago has a pretty great voiceline too where its something along the lines of "so this is the view from up here"
Chipp super is so amazing animated , i love the final part when you can see his eye as he is going down.
Then Potemkin looks super cool with the animation of his armor and the sky.
Potemkin will actually shout out the name of a famous artist every time he gets hit by Fausts super. This is due to him canonically being into art. In this one i think you got "Gogh" but i've also heard "Picasso" and "Davinci"
I-No shouts various brands of electric guitars and the inventor of the electric guitar himself.
In the current state of Axl meta, One Vision is painfully bad. Anything it could lead into is overshadowed by just 1 use of the other super and you really need the meter for defensive RC and wake up super. Only use it to style on the oponent if it's already dead, until someone finds out some janky shit with it.
but... muh super into tbag into dp true combo.
wouldn’t it be burst safe compared to an rc?
@@lowqualitycatjpeg yeah, but you can't use time stop on defense. Most of Axl's meter is reserved for getting people off of him.
I think it stops a Mob Cemetery. But you need it primed first
I've been finding this out myself, and I hate it because I had so much fun with it in the beta.
It's just not worth the meter when RC already does the job pretty well, and has more variety in usage.
I really do hope Insta kills are added in later to this game's lifespan
Same man, I miss em. And they’d look so good
I mean ArcSys has stated they plan to support this game for years to come so I would not be surprised if they end up adding IKs in a future update
Me too... And I have hope, like MK11! NRS added Friendships later.
@@wielderofthetriforce1934 ArcSys history of "supporting" games until DBFZ was release a $60 expansion a year later.
I could see it once all characters are in or something
Waiting for Arc System Works to add in those classic "🔗DESTROYED🔗" moments.
Me too
Zato’s light bending super is definitely my favourite super ever. Hell, it might even just be my favourite thing ever and I’ve never even once used zato
Now we need a "rate the full theme" of GGS, they're all bangers..
I love how on Chipp's 2nd super you get a chorus of Chipps coming from even the controller mic. It sounds really cool in game.
There's some interesting tradeoffs you can tell were made with supers in strive, and i think the more common they expected the super to be the more careful they were trying to avoid going over the top so people weren't frustrated about seeing the move for the 30th time that day. I think arcsys also put a lot of emphasis on the ending pose because of the freeze on wallbreak. There's a lot of subtle stuff in posing and animation that makes even the less showy supers interesting to watch closely (my personal favourite is anji's little smirk that he hides behind a fan during fan super). Overall they're largely a good study in how to make super moves look and feel cool without just making them longer and flashier i think.
Honestly, outside of Potemkin, Chip and Nagoryuki, all of them feels weak, good build up, but such flaccid payoff
The lighting of Zato's Amorphous made it my favourite, it looks so good.
Like the length of the game themselves, I think the supers fit the pace of the game. It's still a shame that most are short and underwhelming. Insta-Kills would have resolved this issue: get fast-paced games AND long finishers that would be hype to land/watch in a tournament when it does happen.
Instant kill combos are what I live for. It is the reason for my existence.
Bro the timing at 10:49 with ino's ult and the music gave me goosebumps
"They were too busy fucking up the lobbies!" Had me dead😂😂😂
Faust's wheelchair super needs its own video rating every opponent's facial reaction.
Faust's super itself feels underwhelming. I miss the cup game one. The faces, on the other hand, are gold.
The only time I've seen Axl stop time was to be cheeky and run under my Yamada to get the kill. Let's just say he didn't quite make it.
Gotta respect the attempt
Was waiting for this to come out. These rate the supers videos are so great to watch. Hope you make a follow up to this once they add every other dlc character they want in Strive.
Too bad they are less over the top than the last game
Chipp’s supers are dope. The first one is 10/10 for just because of the lightning blade reference
It's ridiculous how gorgeous the whole game looks.
Faust is required by law to have the funniest super in whichever Guilty Gear game he ends up in
Lets be honest, all the cinematic supers in this game are great. The quality in animation is absolutely superb. Arcsys are definitely masters at what they do!
dbzf
Wait till you see DBFZ
Dbz is great but the small details on animation are much better
They look great visually and some have good impact, but in my opinion most of them lack creativity and are very anticlimactic. Like some of injustice 2s supers can lack impact but I feel they're super creative for the most part. Especially Flashs.
@@joshuavarghese7166 i love NRS supers but they last a bit too long lol
Everyone else's super: super powered magic attack.
Faust's super: rams you with a wheelchair and breaks your shin.
Yeah, I've been waiting for this!
Yeah, That makes sense!
Gio needed a really hard or defined kick at the end of her air combo to make it a 10/10. She has that wolf kick why not add that? Feels a bit anti climatic
Really nice video to watch after coming from the hospital because I had a seizure. Thanks for your content dood
the best thing about heavenly potemkin buster is not the animation itself. it's the very beggining of the animation where he hoists the enemy up on his shoulders. that's where the endorfin hits. it also tells you that it actually hit and didn't randomly miss for no reason
Chipp's first super looks amazing if it kills, with the "slash" screen and all
In 3 years, we’ll have the Dlc edition of this video.
I'm still recovering from spraining my ankle and Faust's super made me wince every time. 11/10 until I can walk again.
Fun fact:
Nago's multi-hit super has the same amount and speed of strikes as the guitar strikes in the beginning of his theme's guitar solo.
A fun fact : Ram Calvados uses a Zeal battery for the attack . You can see the swords replacing the batteries .
Please do a "rate the full theme" ! The first one was already pretty fun !
If it weren’t for stupid copyright rules, that’d be epic. I’d LOVE for him to do KOF & SamSho too.
Millia, pot, and anji are SSS+ TIER.....I love absolutely every single song in this game.....I guess the only one thats ehh would be rams i guess
You think Max has the attention span for that?
11:50 Guile: SONIC HURRICANE!
17:30 Wolverine: Weapon X!
Most of these SUPERS are heavily influenced by SNK 90s games. At 11:50 Mai had that move more than a decade before Guile
@@h.m.5724 It's super weird getting replies to comments made over half a year ago. Regardless, I haven't played the games that had those movesets. Therefore I made humorous comments likenening them to ones I DO know of.
@@zemratsu doesn't matter the age of your comment if you're wrong you wrong
@@h.m.5724 Okayyyy, and you ignored the rest of the comment explaining the original. Wow.
I've been waiting for this.
Nago's 1st super...is too much of a riff of the supers that Genjuro has on Samurai Shodown
...you know the ones I'm talking about
Most of the supers have really cool looking build-up but the rest if it is so unsatisfying to look at. Reminds me of the early DBFZ roster where most of them have meh looking supers compared to what came later.
Keep in mind the game is still relatively new and arc system has stated that will support the game for a long time and will continue to update the game and add new stuff and I think they will keep to their word and support the game fof a very long time unlike netherrealm which said they will support mortal Kombat 11 for a while but after at least two years they flat out said fuck it were done which pissed off a lot of fans so I hope to God arc will keep their word about the supporting the game for a very long because if they don't and go down the netherrealm route I'll be very upset and I'm sure many will agree with me on that but I think it'll not be the case because I have faith in acr system works their very passionate about their games
I've been waiting for this!
18:56 Giovanna's literally just like 'Well, I'm fucked...'
Meanwhile her dog is panicking.
Axl also seems to do the dio pose when using ZA WARUDO.
The supers for guilty gear strive have the most cinematic starts, then has a kind of underwhelming connection ending.
That's what I like about them though. they go back to gameplay right away. I hate just sitting through cutscenes in the middle of a match.
@@Zangelin I agree, I wouldn't be complaining if they went a little longer either.
@@Zangelin wholeheartedly agree. I'm all for flashy stuff, but I hate when the gameplay's pace gets fucked up due to cinematic supers.
My problem exactly
@@Zangelin then play games without supers?? It sounds like you just want a punch tryhard simulator
Ive been waiting for this!
I’ve been waiting for this
zato's shadowing is legit the best I've ever seen in the medium
15:56 talking about stopping time would you do a “Rate the Super” of one of the jojo fighting games?
The All Star Battle 😎
@@elerrante5991 No way do HFTF
@@triiodide7762 Well, that one is good too.
I feel like a lot of the supers would benefit from like louder impact effects? For example the final hit in nagos super could be louder or have some sort of loud sound, if this makes sense, and like anjis and leos they do damage but the super itself doesn’t look impactful
I think some of them are made so much better with the ending screen thing. For example, chipp's super.
I knew Bone-Crushing Excitement would be a 10/10
They shouldn't have gotten rid of Instant Kills.
This games getting long post-release updates. Plus I dont think theres ever been a Guilty Gear without IKs. So hopefully they'll be adding IKs in the future.
With the slower pace in general and how easy it is to build meter in Strive, if they added instant kills everyone would be spamming them on matches.
If ArcSys adds IKs (which they'll do eventually) they'll be super slow, like 1-3 seconds of startup to truly separate them from the rest of the moves
They absolutely shouldn't have, the super here kinda feel limb personally.
They shoudve been there at launch, now we play the waiting game.
As much as I like Instant kills, it's pretty understandable why they cut them. It's a gargantuan amount of work considering how you almost never used them in Xrd since you couldn't combo into them at all unless you basically already won. And they have to restrict them like that since otherwise it just becomes a bullshit blowup mechanic, but it leads to them basically being fluff. Cool fluff, but fluff nonetheless.
Never noticed the skeleton reflection on Nago's sword at 4:50 that looks pretty dope nice camera work as well .. also does that skeleton have horns?
fun fact! If you rewind 10 seconds at any point during zato's cutscene at 9:29, it segues perfectly
Axl's time stop is a real tragedy because it's heavily telegraphed, doesn't give you long in the charged state to use it, can be blocked, and doesn't even last long enough for him to finish his taunt. Probably for the best that it not be OP, but I don't see any player getting hit by the thing provided they understand how it works.
Just like Max said I wish Gio was introduced in a proper Guilty Gear, they could have gone wild with her moves and design, she's so cool. Strive is fine as it is but I REALLY hope this is not the direction they're going with the series in the future.
Maybe when guilty gear goes back to normal in later games, they'll make her look striking like the others, it's sucks that they gutted the guilty gear aesthetic in strive
@@ratedr7845 What do mean this just like early gg it was pretty serious and less anime and wacky
@@kei7540 but it was cooler, the supers looked cooler
@@ratedr7845 The super were the same. If anything its better here than in the rest. If we were to talk instankills in Xrd then yeah you're right.
@@ratedr7845 They has the same supers they've been doing for over 20 years in strive
Been waiting for this one
this is the first time i seen a stream that becomes a video neat
Axl's super actually my video stop and buffer. Utility super indeed.
14:57
he didnt even show it but we know exactly what hes talking about
Booba?
I'm disappointed in myself that I don't.
I don't know either. Maybe the face?
@@captainmega6310 it's the booba, when she gets knocked down on her back because of her open shirt her double Ds? jiggle! And you can see alot too lmao
@@DANCERcow booba
Anybody else notice during Faust’s super when Ram got hit it changed which legs was wrapped in belts?
Ky’s Dragon install is like that because only some of his cells are gear cells, because Sin’s eye is slowly turning him into a gear.
We all know chipp has the most badass super
I played chipp first, so i was definitely disappointed when I realized his supers where an exception and not the norm.
I’ve waited for so long for this.
Been waiting for this.
Is it just me or when the characters get hit by the wheelchair, they make the face of The Court of the Crimson King album cover?
I see it
Sooooo... can we get a new rating for the now full character themes? :3
Im asking this mainly because of Zato honestly
The old themes were better imo
The Reflector point blank feels real good though. Because they go in for a hit then BAM! They explode off ya. The reflection part is actually the worst bit because that means it might miss.
Been waiting for this
19:00 you don't just watch Potemkin's overdrive. you yell with it. HEAVENLYYYYY-----
POTEMKIIIN
Ky's Dragon Install in the story: Coolest most hype moment in the entire Guilty Gear series, Ky goes from Gear Slayer to GOD SLAYER
Ky's Dragon Install in the game: Meh
Yeah it feels very weak, not really a proper power up
Well I mean Ky's dragon install in the story was meh too he immediately got his ass kicked like no hesitation
you should have done the supers on counter hit or death as the camera angle for some of them on it is fantastic.
When you use Potemkin's utility super while your opponent tries to run away from it you can slowly walk towards them with the wall menacingly.