I've read everything about Mr. Frazier and seen him interviewed a few times, and I find him completely !00% believable. He never embellishes anything, and if he doesn't know some detail, he says so. He was treated terribly by the Dallas PD in their effort to "solve" the crime ASAP. Buell is to be commended. He was a very mature 19 year old man in 1963. God bless him.
@@JG-tt4sz He has stated in other interviews that he never hear Oswald say anything negative about JFK. He also had stated that when he mentioned to Oswald that the Presdient was going to pass by the building that Oswald didn't react one way or the other. There are no statements anywhere that indicate Oswald held any animosity toward JFK.
I believe him when he says he only heard 3 shots. Many others have said 3 shots as well. 3 shots fired from a un silenced rifle but what about the silenced ones. Other Kennedyologists can account for 9 shots so silencers must have been used.
Several witnesses said there was a pause after the first shot and then there were two shots in quick succession. This can't happen with a bolt action rifle.
This is the first time I heard that Wesley didn’t know JFK was coming to Texas. Of all questions asked I wished the interviewer would ask Wesley if he thought Oswald knew about the visit .
I was seven years old in 1963, second grade, we were dismissed from school early that Friday afternoon, teachers were crying but we didn’t know what had happened until we got home. In February of 2020 I was in Dealey Plaza. I had been in Dallas for a couple of months but cringed every time I came near any of the landmarks. Finally I went and walked through the whole areas involved.
I was 12 in 7th grade, me and another kid were putting the auditorium chairs away after practicing for our Thanksgiving Day play. The teacher sent for us, the girl who came to get us wouldn't say what the teacher wanted. We entered our classroom about 2:45 EST, everyone was crying and we learned he was dead, JFK was so loved by the common people, what a brutal time! Everyone old enough except George HW Bush when asked remembers exactly what they were doing when they learned of the assassination! We never did perform that play.
I only learnt of this interview through reading Buell’s book. I have seen other interviews and he is totally consistent. A good honest man, I would love to meet him. God Bless you Buell.
See 26:30. The witness states the package under Oswald's arm was 2 feet/24 inches. He says it was absolutely not a rifle. He has seen a Carcano and measured it. It would have stuck up to Oswald's ear. It did not.
He said that the employees DIDN'T know if they were allowed to see the motorcade. If they didnt know how did Oswald know that no one would be allowed to take a break n that the floors would b empty instead of full of employees walking around working?
Since it was already planned, there were going to no one in that floor.If there were they would of locked the door or put boxes against it so no one would come in remember it didn't take long for shots to go off 11 seconds. Not difficult at all. There is a reason he took that job at that place it wasn't coincidence. So there were probably one or two more hirings not coincidence that helped him a little bit to there were many windows open that day in the building TSBD. Even on the west end that would of been the easier shot. There were people witnesses that said that there were men in those windows to same floor.
It's strange that you see the agents holding the found rifle without gloves. So many people touched it. I don't believe they even tested the gun for his finger prints. How could there be any clear prints left after so many touched it ?
There were NO PRINTS of Lee's on that rifle until after Ruby silenced him and while he was being prepped for burial the FBI took the rifle and a print kit to the Mortuary and asked the mortician to excuse himself, They put Lee's prints on the rifle and when they left, The mortician found fresh print ink on Lee's hands
@@jameskinney9725 -Yes like Everything important in the JFK Case there are 2,3, or 4 possibilities-nothing is cut and dried. Latona the FBI Fingerprint Examiner said there were no identifiable prints on the rifle, then it is shipped back to Dallas and supposedly there is old prints of LHO on the rifle?In the most important Homicide of the 20th century we are supposed to believe the top fingerprint examiner in the FBI could not find any prints and then the rifle magically has a print or prints?
Are you referring to the Mauser or the MC? A lot of people handled both weapons. I don't believe the MC was used in the assassination or tested after the fact. I believe it was a "throw down". I also believe that there is a possibility that the Mauser was fired (not by Oswald) and certainly not tested.
Thank you very much, Mr. Meros, for this very informative interview and a video to help understand better what happened that terrible day in Dallas, or better put, what didn't happen. Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier is totally credible in this interview, and there's no apparent reason to disbelieve his eye witness testimony both of what he saw of Lee Harvey Oswald and how he was treated by the Dallas police. He talked about hearing three shots, and while he mentioned possible difficulties or confusion in locating the direction from which they came because of the echoes in Dealey Plaza and wind, it's fascinating that he NEVER confirms hearing a shot or shots from right above him, from the window of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository - even when asked the direct question. There's no way that he could have confused that source because of an echo or wind - the window was right above him. Mr Buell Wesley Frazier did say he thought the shots came from his front to the right. That would make a lot of sense - but not in terms of the Warren Commission's conclusions.
If you look at the photo where he says that he was standing back in the shadows, He was in the entryway with concrete above him and all of the sound would come from in front of him.
Was the Dallas Book Depository also a secret arms depot? The investigating authorities first picked up and displayed a German Mauser rifle, then changed the weapon to the Italian Carcano carbine.
I've always thought that factions of the Dallas Police were somehow involved with the assassination... Hearing this testimony makes me wonder if Captain Fritz was a part of that . We all know that the Dallas Police did such a bang up job of protecting Lee Harvey Oswald even if though they were aware that many threats had been made on Oswald's life . I still say Oswald's transfer was actually him being led to his execution.
Jim Leavell --Dallas detective handcuffed to Oswald-said later he wanted to transfer Oswald earlier on Sunday morning quietly, but he was overruled -- had the transfer been done his way, Oswald might have survived, too late now
ya you mean like how the Dallas police also called off all the police and told all officers on duty not to give any protection to the president because the secret service was going to handle all of the security. Tho i have a feeling fritz was not actively involved in the plot to kill JFK and might not of even been a very willing participant of the cover up being hes one of the only ones that was still honest and even said later he thinks Oswald did something but did not think there was any evidence he killed the president and would be found innocent if he ever went to trial.
This is the first time I have heard Buell say (29:00 et seq.) that LHO crossed Houston St near the Daltex building corner opposite TSBD after shooting. This is consistent with LHO heading towards the bus that took him back towards his boarding house in Oak Cliff so he wasn't the person seen getting into a Nash Rambler on Elm St near TSBD.
Deputy Roger Craig saw Oswald or a look alike jumping in the Rambler and saw him again during a hearing at the police station. He also stated that the gun found on six floor was indeed a 7.65 Mauser riffle, not a MC. Craig was policeman of the year. After his statements his life turned into tragedies.
Ask me a story I told at 20 and maybe 40 and then interview me at 73 you will probably get a slightly different story because you've had time to recollect the events.
@@josephtobin3347 Partially correct. Mafia was used for the actual hit team. Somewhere between 3 and 5 "shooters" were in Dealey Plaza nad ALL were instructed to ONLY take a shot if they had a clear path for a "kill" shot. They DID NOT want the area to be filled with 10-15 shots all over the place because that would signal a conspiracy.
Buell seems like a very down to earth person that would give his shirt off his back. I get the impression of an honest and sincere fella that was forced into the spotlight because of his acquaintance with Oswald. I always believed his testimony about what he saw and witnessed that day. It does indeed raise serious doubt to the overall conclusions of the warren commission. The 2ft. Bag length, No brown paper bag seen on oswald the day before, the exact route of oswald leaving the tsbd just after the shooting. These details contradict with the official ruling some way or another and we should all be suspicious of the lone nut determination we were forced fed Also with the Capt. Fritz episode of writing out a conspiracy confession and threatening violence if buell didn't sign, Shows me 1 of 2 things. 1) Fritz new the real conspirators and was forcefully trying to blame it on others 2.) Fritz had no idea who did it and was poking at straws to get a signed confession and close the case asap.
But did Oswald return to work? Why wasn't that question asked? Why wasn't Oswald outside with everyone else to watch the President go by? Why did he leave, rather than go ask his coworkers what was going on? He had to hear commotion. I would have to conclude that he did shoot, or he knew he would get blamed. But if law enforcement knew Oswald would be blamed, why did they press Frazier for a confession? Were any curtain rods ever found? Maybe he took a rifle inside on a previous date. Or maybe the rifle was disassembled inside the package. Maybe the package contained ammo. I doubt that it would have contained a scope, because he wouldn't have had an opportunity to dial in the scope on location. I am suspicious of Frazier's answer on where he thought the shots came from. It just didn't sound right.
He said that Oswald was not at work after the shooting because they did a roll call and Oswald was gone. I heard other employees left also because the building was sealed off and flooded with investigators. The way this investigations went, they could have found curtain rods and they could have disappeared like so much of the other evidence did. Found curtain rods could have meant not guilty. That's the problem with all of this, they made evidence disappear, they fabricated evidence, they altered evidence, they pressured witnesses, witnesses disappeared. Loud sounds in a city with all the echoes can be difficult to figure out the exact location of the shots, I understand his answer on that, plus he was tucked in the doorway.
Brad H...I heard an interview of Harold Weisberg quoting Roy Truly from the WC testimony in that there were never any curtain rods found! But Weisberg observed that there was a shed attached to the TSBD that was probably never searched...I recommend the Whitewash video on You Tube...Weisberg is no nonsense and was asking the right questions even in those days
Fascinating, first time I have heard of this guy. I would love to ask him about the details surrounding the fact that the boss granted the employees a paid break( probably 30 mins) off work to watch the parade. I my experience when that happens everyone takes the boss up on the offer, no matter what the reason. If Oswald as a fellow employee carried on working, surely would have been looked on as strange and risked more mockery from co workers! If he was outside watching like the others he couldn't have been upstairs shooting, if he refused the offer to watch the parade wouldn't that have raised the alarm and be a factor in where he was or wasn't at the time?
Wow, amazing interview Mr. Meros. It's so important for these witnesses that are left to record their testimonies for the sake of history before they pass on, as so many others have. One question I would have asked of Mr. Frazier would have been if he knew why Lee was rooming in Dallas when he could have commuted with Mr Frazier every morning.
and another question is if you look at the picture closely you can see the two secret service man looking right at Oswald as if they were wondering why he was standing there
I am sure Buell Wesley Frazier was not knowingly involved but the curtain rods story has a few problems. Were any curtains or curtain rods found in the TSBD on or after Friday 22nd November ? Did anyone see them being removed from the TSBD ? Did Marina Oswald ever acknowledge that she made curtains for Lee's rooming house room ? Did Lee buy the curtain rods or where did he obtain them ? Did the lady at the rooming house discuss putting up curtains with Lee ? Buell Wesley Frazier must have been terrified when he saw Lee Oswald shot by Jack Ruby that he would be rearrested or worse. He would have found it hard to admit that the package might have been the rifle broken down. There are a few other possibilities than the package contained Lee's rifle. Lee may have wanted to post something he kept in Ruth Paine's house that he didn't want to explain to Buell about. He may have been asked to do so at the last minute. He was planning a trip to Cuba and Russia for several weeks. It is unlikely that moving the rifle into place would be left to last minute chance. The package seems more likely to have been part of the "patsy" setup as a last minute request during the previous week. The packaged rifle was probably moved into the TSBD on Thursday night or very early Friday morning (to avoid discovery) having been taken from Ruth Paine's house much (even 2 weeks) earlier.
Excellent interview. Oddly , Mr Frazier worked previously at a curtain manufacturer where his job was wrapping and packaging curtain rods. This , i haven't seen anyone press him on this as it is a strange coincidence.
I'm guessing he was not planning on getting a ride home that day. He was living in a boarding house in Dallas and said he was taking the curtain rods to the boarding house. No need to walk all the way back to the car if he was not going back to Irving later that day.
Back in the 60's America was TRYING to convert to the Metric System like the rest of the World. I remember vividly our Metric System courses when I was in School in the Mid 50's. As you know that attempt failed Miserably! Lol!
In the 1986 mock trial he was shown a pic of a man standing on that step in front of the TSBD and was asked who was it and he said it resemble Lee harvey oswald,
Frazier was arrested when the Dallas Police found a high powered rifle and tons of ammo. Frazier told the police chief that Oswald did not have anything that he put in the car when Frazier drove him to work. The police chief told Frazier they would put him in the electric chair if he didn't change his story to fit the narrative that Oswald was the shooter. After they released Frazier he disappeared for years, joining the Army and staying away from Dallas.
12pm everyone went to watch the parade, truly gave permission. The guy outside with the fake seasure allowed everyone to get in position, including Wallace and rosella in the 6th floor dressed as construction guys, there was construction on that floor tha day. The lunch was purchased down the street so seeing a workman with lunch at lunchtime would not be unusual.
Dave Zeiss- If your talking about the bag containing a chicken bone and a bottle of soda it belonged to another tsbd employee that was eating lunch in the 6th floor shortly before jfk was assassinated. I can't remember his name but he testified that he was there untill 1215-1220?? And that he did not observe anyone on that floor during that time. He later went down to the 5th floor to watch the motorcade with fellow co-workers and must of been kinda lazy to not throw away his food scraps & trash, IMHO.
Read WC testimony of Bonnie Ray Williams who ate his lunch in 6th floor window near snipers nest until 12.20 pm & left his lunch sack & pop bottle there.
I question what Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier claims he saw. I have gone shopping at home depot-Target-And Walmart at various times in my 55 years. And Ive purchased and seen countless others in those 55 years buy curtain rods. I NEVER-EVER saw anyone carry curtain rods like the way he described. Under the armpit..? Really Really.........?
What happened to the remains of the chicken bag lunch found by the "snipers nest"? Is it possible there was some DNA left on it? When did oswald eat it? Wasn't he working all morning? He obviously wasn't there the night before and he wasn't there after the shooting. Not much was/has ever been said about that. When did oswald have time to make "the snipers nest"? During coffee break? Did anyone see oswald building it or even acting suspiciously that day or the day before? What was the earliest that it was public knowledge that Kennedy would be going by the book depository? If oswald did it someone told him in advance or he had some sort of previous knowledge somehow, from someone.
That would be interesting if they could test for DNA. The chicken bag lunch was not Oswald's and he did not eat it there at the window. There is another TSBD employee who acknowledged that he had eaten there (Williams is his name, I think). He did state that while he was eating his lunch that he did not hear anyone in the location of the snipers nest window. Oswald was seen in the lunch room approximately 15 mins before the motorcade passed and he was seen approximately 90 secs after the shooting in the lunch room. And no one inside the TSBD saw Oswald carry anything into the building that morning.
There's something that bothers me... The route of the motorcade was changed at the last moment, I am sure Oswald did not know that. There's something inside me that tells me he never shot the president and that package really contained curtains. There could not be any rifle... Also because the police found a Mauser 7,65 not a manlicher carcano...
I am curious to know if Frazier was threatened by the Dallas Police or others concerning the British Enfield rifle that was found on the roof of the TSBD. Frazier owned that exact brand rifle. I'm not saying it was his rifle just that the an Enfield rifle was found on the roof that day. It's been verified. Mauser and Carcano found on the 6th floor. The report of this is that the Dallas Police use to frame suspects and DA Wade practice this often. Dallas District Attorney Wade had hundreds of his cases overturned because of it. Frazier was forced into the story of Oswald and the curtain rods or be charged himself with the murder of JFK. Loading dock foreman and others saw Oswald that morning entering the building empty handed. If anyone has the chance to ask the question please do.
Unfortunately, no it won't since the people involved have mostly died off already. However, we have already heard the truth in one of the theories about what happened but just don't know what to believe as the actual truth.
The truth is out and their and they still think oswald did it. Rfk murder is just as bad as is 9-11 . They all have the same circumstances missing testimony , missing or destroyed photos and murdering witnesses
it's unclear at the end when he's saying he saw Lee one more time after the shooting, did he say he saw him come out by the dock? So was Wesley in the back of the building at that point? He mentions being at the bottom of the steps, was that the front steps where he saw the President or the back steps where the dock is? He doesn't say anything about his own movements after the shooting.
I have the film showing it was a Mauser first found..a real video that you see taken inside the floor as the police looked around...they said flat out on the barrel it said 7.65 Mauser and it's in all the FBI documents and the Dallas Police Dept..once they(who controlled the news media)made them change it to the other rifle.. I spent 5 years on this and I've come to the end of the rabbit hole and 1,000 of things I've read and pictures I saw and video and Roger Craig i know how it all happened..and remember LBJ didn't know till the night before about the Event, And in LBJ's last interview said he knew who did it..he died 10 days later...then Roger Craig the real hero of this said if any other great proof came out he would be dead and after Geraldo Riveria showed the Z film in 75 again 10day ater Craig was shot in his driveway his dad watched(later told the story) and they ruled it suicide in the chest from a shit gun lol cum on..12 of the deaths were done by suicide from getting shot in the back of the head in a downward angle an "execution death" and those were ruled suicide even though it was impossible to shoot yourself in the back of the head straight down..gezz us...people need to learn the facts theres alot and move on with trying who ever is still alive and putting names on those deaths
There's a woman, I'm sorry i can't remember her name, she gathered and analyzed every known statement LHO muttered after his arrest. Not once did he give even a hint that he shot anyone. He specifically denied it several times and stated he felt he was being set up as a patsy.
Great Interview Tom. I have a question and comment. When Buell said that the police brought in a statement to sign that he refused to sign, do you think that Buell was supposed to be part of the setup without his knowledge? Do you think that once they had their patsy in Oswald, they needed one more innocent patsy and they chose Buell to sign a confession that said he knew about Oswald being involved in the murder of the President? Also, do you think if Buell at 19 years old had been bullied into signing this document, that history would be different in that now it would include Buell and if so, do you think Buell would have been killed shortly after the assassination also to silence him?
If the Paine house was so close to Frazier's home, why wouldn't Oswald ride home with him every night? Why the need to have a room in Oak Cliff to stay at during the week? It sounds like Oswald could arrange a ride with Frazier very easily, as he did on Thursday, Nov 21, so why not go home every night?
@@keriwilliams8980 Oh no. The Warren Commission said it was the Mannlicher Carcan rifle that was in the paper sack. Not curtain rods. But, it was most certainly NOT the rifle. Was too long to cup in his hands and put under his arm pit. Could Not have bee the rifle.
The Altgens 6 photo (that you show in this video) is not the only photo or film captured of the TSBD steps that day during the motorcade. While it's true Frazier is not visible in the Altgens 6 photo - because, indeed, he was back in the shadows - he can be plainly seen in the DARNELL FILM near the middle of the entry, up on the top step/landing, just to the west of the handrail (NB: the Darnell film is sometimes called the "Couch film" in error! As I understand it, Groden spliced together a bit of the Darnell film with the Couch film, to show Baker's complete sprint to the steps, and called it the "Couch film"). You can't see the handrail but he has said in testimony he was to the west of the handrail. In the Wiegman film, which also briefly captures the TSBD entry/steps partially, he can't be seen since the camera doesn't pan far enough right - he's likely just barely off screen to the right.
Picture of Oswald's room at the time shows curtains hanging, so curtain rods were already there. Did the woman who rented Oswald the room ever verify his story? If not, than Oswald did not have curtain rods in that package
The package could have been either. Curtain rods, which were never found; or a disassembled rifle. But the rifle had been oiled and no stains were found on the paper covering. Doubt therefore over both objects
I had known that Mr Frazier had lived in Huntsville, TX, but I was not aware that he was born in Highlands, TX, east of Houston, near Baytown, TX. Apparently, although not of his choosing, he is part of one of the most historic events of U S History.
So did they EVER find the bag containing curtain rods???? And WHY would you need to bring curtain rods into your place of work instead of simply leaving them in the car????
Always wondered about the curtains in the rental. I could be wrong but usually rented furnished rooms have blinds, shades, curtains already?? However this has not been emphasized very much. I feel the investigation on a whole has lots of loose ends that aren’t explained.
Buell please tell me if you think there wasn’t a rifle in lee’s package and we know that lee Oswald lied about the curtain rods?what do you really think was in that package?it wasn’t his lunch!you only knew lee Oswald for a month!so really You didn’t know him on a personal level!
Tom, you do great work, but next time you interview Buell, If you want to see him sweat and break out in nervous tics...you need to ask Buell who was standing to his RIGHT, in the corner (and one step down from him) - it's not Bill Shelly, or Billy Lovelady! AND ask him who was taking his (Buell's) photo there on the TSBD steps. We'll never see that film, for sure! Here's a frame from the Couch film that captures him (the Darnell film is sometimes called the "Couch film" in error): i57.servimg.com/u/f57/18/50/79/06/195_pm10.jpg
Sounds like the Agency Spooks got to him good. They always tell people that they are "Confused" and didn't hear or see what they initially knew that they did.
Oswald is just easily the unluckiest man that ever lived. Bet he wishes he hadn't carried those 'curtain rods' to work and left for good 4 minutes after JFK was shot now. I'm sure he knew he didn't need to be questioned about this at all, President's dead = free day off work, better sneak into a movie.
Where did the chicken come from If Oswald brought it to work with him, I'm sure that Buell would have noticed it, or had smelt it? He made no mention of lunch being carried in! A bag with chicken bones was found at the scene. Who ate those?
Have seen him interviewed a few times, he tells a slightly different story every time. Never heard him say he invited Lee in for a cup of coffee that morning before.
I think buell is lying a about the curtain rod, I believe the curtain rod story came from the FBI, a deal made under hours of interrogation. In another video buell says candidly " they sure knew what they were doing " in reference to picking curtain rods in the package. I don't know what Oswald brought in that day , if he brought anything at all. The mystery is why did he go to Irving Thursday night ? Buell is sticking to this story, I really don't think he remembers or he's afraid still.
Buell told the DPD around 3pm on the day of the assassination that Lee carried a package into work that morning. He said Lee said it was curtain rods and that Mrs Paine had a spare set. Mrs Paine said Oswald NEVER mentioned curtain rods at anytime and Marina said the same. Ruth DID have a spare curtain rod in the garage, but it was STILL there on Friday 22nd. Oswald already had curtains in his room. Buell asked Lee what was in the bag and he said remember, curtain rods. Buell asked Lee what about lunch and Lee said he would buy his lunch. Oswald told the DPD he took his lunch to work. So Oswald lied...... It is possible that Buell felt bad that he did not quiz Lee on the package and so lied about thinking it was about 26 inches long. Lee never took curtain rods to work that day, he took the rifle.
@@patrickcollins7407 yeah maybe, but I don't think so. Too many things about the whole story don't add up. Buell was just a kid back in 63, not too bright and very scared during interrogation that lasted hours. No real documented questioning exists, Oswald gets wacked going to county jail where he'll inevitably get council. Imo, Lee probably just brought his lunch. Buell is lying ! 50 years later buell says he saw Lee leave the building shortly after the assassination, he has never mentioned this before. Like Oswald said, I'm just a patsy ! Why would he even say that ? makes no sense unless others are involved.
I'm sorry I think this man is lying the guy standing in front of The Book Depository is Lee Harvey Oswald even his mother seen that picture and said that's my Lee Who would know one better than one's mother
so let me get this straight this man Road oswal to and from work and the day that the president is coming they all get permission to watch the president go by and this man who Road oswal to and from work didn't go say to him are you coming to watch the president something don't seem right about that
So - no rifle in the bag is the entire thesis of this video. Okay. Now what? What happened to the "curtain rods?" Nobody seems to care about this exculpatory resource.
Jeff Stewart, in the TV miniseries 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' it was shown that there was enough doubt about taking in the rifle in a covered paper bag as the package was too short unless the gun was disassembled and even then, wouldn't have fitted under the arm. Also had it been in parts there should have been oil stains on the brown paper covering, but there weren't. The curtain rods would have fitted in a package and fitted under the arm. But as you say they were never found. So both items in doubt. However in that TV miniseries, the point was simply that there was reasonable doubt, and had LHO lived and gone to trial, it would have been very hard to prove that LHO brought that rifle to work with him.
Lee oswald wait for lift from Wisley and few hours to shoot president of united state. From building he started working 5 weeks ago. He drinks coke Chillin in canteen. Makes absolutely zero sense.
This guy said he saw lee harvey Oswald walking out the back of the texas school depository(after the assassination) and then there people who say they saw him walk out in the front the texas school depository (a reporter saw Oswald after the assassination and asked for a telephone and met up with Oswald in the front of the texas school depository). There were two Oswalds and one of them shot at the president (along with the other gunmen that all surrounded the plaza, behind the knoll, at railway lines, in the storm drain and in the buildings near the texas school depository )and the other(the one that went Russia) Oswald was set up as a patsy.
There are questions I would like to ask Mr. Frazier that I have never heard asked and I have watched many of his interviews. I feel its important because many of the witnesses are no longer with us and soon there will be none. We may never get the truth. Mr. Frazier seems very honest and trustworthy. Thanks for the upload
+Lee Hill What are your questions? Could you please list them here? My friend, Gayle Nix Jackson (whose gf shot the Nix Film), lives in the area and speaks with Buell regularly and could ask him. I'd be glad to pass you questions on to Gayle. She's awesome, btw!
i would like to ask Mr Frazier what were the thoughts of his co workers, Supervisor and Boss a few weeks after that weekend. How many believed Oswald was guilty and did Mr Frazier end up believing Oswald was the assassin of JFK ??
Who were the people working on the 6th floor...was it a construction company or the TSBD employees...were they accounted for after the assassination...were they questioned...
One issue, the main issue I have with the single shooter theory is why did one bullet go through "cleanly" into Pres. Kennedy's neck area yet the next bullet, from the same gun, had the capacity to wreak horribly massive destruction to the President's head?
The murder weapon was obviously not the Mannlicher-Carcano - that was simply the set-up prop used to incriminate Oswald. What if Oswald, fulfilling his role as co-conspirator, was smuggling into the Depository building another type of rifle, the actual murder weapon, for another shooter? A superior and sophisticated rifle of incalculably greater accuracy and reliability, one that can be broken down to a portable length (24"?) and then quickly and easily reassembled.
Someone would have seen the stranger in the building - its not that big, and everybody knew everybody else. On the other hand its obvious that they gave Oswald the job in the book depository with some made-up intelligence assignment story. Oswald, whom the CIA picked as an agent at age 20, among these folks who have to learn how to order books - its like putting Einstein among high school teachers. Pretty sure Oswald also was suspicious that something doesn't add up about his "assignment", but he never guessed what will be his final role - the designated patsy.
Buell saw Oswald walking towards the TSBD with the package under his arm pit. Buell wouldn't have watched him pull out the package from the back seat, as he was busy with checking out whether he had enough charge in his battery. Buell then followed Oswald at quite a distance, therefore he wouldn't have been able to tell how long the package was, all he saw was Oswald holding the package under his arm pit with his right hand. The gun was wrapped, Oswald basically tucked it under his arm pit, gun stock first, grabbed the rest with his right hand, it's only brown paper, about halfway down the barrel and walked away. In fact, had he handled it any differently, like carrying it like one would carry a gun, it would have looked very suspicious; there's no mystery here. Had it been curtain rods, Oswald would likely have waited for Buell to finish and walk to work together but he was anxious to get his package inside asap, so he didn't stick around. In fact, I would have asked Buell that question "Did you find it unusual or odd that Oswald didn't wait for you before walking to the TSDB, after all, it's common courtesy to wait"? Furthermore, it was noon, lunch, so it was normal for Oswald to leave the building, except he didn't come back, why, because he had just shot the President. Hadn't he been the shooter, he would have returned, he was a good employee, hard worker, therefore not a slacker. Oswald knew the route of the motorcade and decided to act on it, a crime of opportunity by a deranged man. He was a good shooter too, a trained sniper. The two shots that hit JFK were easy shots for him. There's no conspiracy, no LBJ involvement, it's an assassination by a lone gunman.
Even if Oswald had the old Italian rifle instead of curtain roads in paper or a box , There is no way Lee Harvey could have hit JFK with that old Italian rifle . The Italians called it the rifle that never hit anything on purpose . At the very most Oswald could have been recruited by cia to be one of the assassins . But no way , even if Oswald was one of the Assassins , even if he was not in that room but very close behind the hedges on the grassy knoll , none of Oswald's shots would have hit JFK . Oswald was a terrible marxman , even with a decent fire arm .
Very good interview his story sounds 100% but I believe he wasn't really paying attention to that package and that package might have been a rifle in there.... And why did the lady identify Oswald as the man that shot the police officer if he didn't shoot the president why was he acting so guilty...
I've read everything about Mr. Frazier and seen him interviewed a few times, and I find him completely !00% believable. He never embellishes anything, and if he doesn't know some detail, he says so. He was treated terribly by the Dallas PD in their effort to "solve" the crime ASAP. Buell is to be commended. He was a very mature 19 year old man in 1963. God bless him.
Did he ever say anything about conversations he may have had where Oswald would talk about politics?
@@JG-tt4sz He has stated in other interviews that he never hear Oswald say anything negative about JFK. He also had stated that when he mentioned to Oswald that the Presdient was going to pass by the building that Oswald didn't react one way or the other. There are no statements anywhere that indicate Oswald held any animosity toward JFK.
I believe him when he says he only heard 3 shots. Many others have said 3 shots as well. 3 shots fired from a un silenced rifle but what about the silenced ones. Other Kennedyologists can account for 9 shots so silencers must have been used.
Several witnesses said there was a pause after the first shot and then there were two shots in quick succession. This can't happen with a bolt action rifle.
The enormous evil of that day still hangs in this country.
It hangs all over the world, baby. It was a shock for the whole planet 🌍
@@ElSmusso And it will 'till all who lived are gone
Glad to see someone finally ask questions that matter.
An honest man and he wouldn’t change his statement to suit the police.
This is the first time I heard that Wesley didn’t know JFK was coming to Texas. Of all questions asked I wished the interviewer would ask Wesley if he thought Oswald knew about the visit .
I was seven years old in 1963, second grade, we were dismissed from school early that Friday afternoon, teachers were crying but we didn’t know what had happened until we got home. In February of 2020 I was in Dealey Plaza. I had been in Dallas for a couple of months but cringed every time I came near any of the landmarks. Finally I went and walked through the whole areas involved.
I was 12 in 7th grade, me and another kid were putting the auditorium chairs away after practicing for our Thanksgiving Day play. The teacher sent for us, the girl who came to get us wouldn't say what the teacher wanted. We entered our classroom about 2:45 EST, everyone was crying and we learned he was dead, JFK was so loved by the common people, what a brutal time! Everyone old enough except George HW Bush when asked remembers exactly what they were doing when they learned of the assassination! We never did perform that play.
I only learnt of this interview through reading Buell’s book. I have seen other interviews and he is totally consistent. A good honest man, I would love to meet him. God Bless you Buell.
See 26:30. The witness states the package under Oswald's arm was 2 feet/24 inches. He says it was absolutely not a rifle. He has seen a Carcano and measured it. It would have stuck up to Oswald's ear. It did not.
so where are the curtain rods? nobody ever found them
From everything I have read over the years no curtain rods were ever found. So many answers we still dont know.
A hardwood butt rifle is so much heavier itwould have been very awkward and would draw immediate attention carrying it that way.
R.I.P.
Lee Harvey Oswald.
He said that the employees DIDN'T know if they were allowed to see the motorcade. If they didnt know how did Oswald know that no one would be allowed to take a break n that the floors would b empty instead of full of employees walking around working?
Excellent point. That makes Oswald look less guilty.
he may have been tricked into bringing the gun for someone else
Since it was already planned, there were going to no one in that floor.If there were they would of locked the door or put boxes against it so no one would come in remember it didn't take long for shots to go off 11 seconds. Not difficult at all. There is a reason he took that job at that place it wasn't coincidence. So there were probably one or two more hirings not coincidence that helped him a little bit to there were many windows open that day in the building TSBD. Even on the west end that would of been the easier shot. There were people witnesses that said that there were men in those windows to same floor.
Good question
thank you so much for telling the truth!!! long live the republic and honest good folks like you man!!!
If you are from texas , remember your words.....Long live the Republic!....Get rid of Ted Cruz...who went on vacation when Texans were freezing!
Dude even remembers the size of the rain drops on his windshield that day...Great memory.
And yet he doesnt remember who was standing directly to his right in the doorway. Hint: It wasnt Billy Lovelady.
It's strange that you see the agents holding the found rifle without gloves. So many people touched it. I don't believe they even tested the gun for his finger prints. How could there be any clear prints left after so many touched it ?
There were NO PRINTS of Lee's on that rifle until after Ruby silenced him and while he was being prepped for burial the FBI took the rifle and a print kit to the Mortuary and asked the mortician to excuse himself, They put Lee's prints on the rifle and when they left, The mortician found fresh print ink on Lee's hands
@@jameskinney9725 -Yes like Everything important in the JFK Case there are 2,3, or 4 possibilities-nothing is cut and dried. Latona the FBI Fingerprint Examiner said there were no identifiable prints on the rifle, then it is shipped back to Dallas and supposedly there is old prints of LHO on the rifle?In the most important Homicide of the 20th century we are supposed to believe the top fingerprint examiner in the FBI could not find any prints and then the rifle magically has a print or prints?
Are you referring to the Mauser or the MC? A lot of people handled both weapons. I don't believe the MC was used in the assassination or tested after the fact. I believe it was a "throw down". I also believe that there is a possibility that the Mauser was fired (not by Oswald) and certainly not tested.
If you think that today police would do it any different in Texas, you never been to Texas.
THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE HE EVEN PURCHSED THE RIFLE. TH ALLEGED MONEY ORDER USED TO PURCHASE WAS NEVER CASHED. nEVR ENDORSED BY A BANK.
Thank you very much, Mr. Meros, for this very informative interview and a video to help understand better what happened that terrible day in Dallas, or better put, what didn't happen. Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier is totally credible in this interview, and there's no apparent reason to disbelieve his eye witness testimony both of what he saw of Lee Harvey Oswald and how he was treated by the Dallas police. He talked about hearing three shots, and while he mentioned possible difficulties or confusion in locating the direction from which they came because of the echoes in Dealey Plaza and wind, it's fascinating that he NEVER confirms hearing a shot or shots from right above him, from the window of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository - even when asked the direct question. There's no way that he could have confused that source because of an echo or wind - the window was right above him. Mr Buell Wesley Frazier did say he thought the shots came from his front to the right. That would make a lot of sense - but not in terms of the Warren Commission's conclusions.
If you look at the photo where he says that he was standing back in the shadows, He was in the entryway with concrete above him and all of the sound would come from in front of him.
I wonder if anyone ever asked Mr. Wesley if he had ever known Oswald to carry a pistol.
Oswald returned home after the shooting , changed, and then grabbed his pistol .
Bubba always tells his story the exact same way even after 50 years. There was no package in the back seat of his car.
Was the Dallas Book Depository also a secret arms depot? The investigating authorities first picked up and displayed a German Mauser rifle, then changed the weapon to the Italian Carcano carbine.
Clarc King good one 👍
I like Wesley..He's a good old country boy that got caught up in a terrible event.
HONEST MAN....God Bless. Him'......Great Video!
Man better be glad he's not been in some kind of accident.
I've always thought that factions of the Dallas Police were somehow involved with the assassination... Hearing this testimony makes me wonder if Captain Fritz was a part of that . We all know that the Dallas Police did such a bang up job of protecting Lee Harvey Oswald even if though they were aware that many threats had been made on Oswald's life . I still say Oswald's transfer was actually him being led to his execution.
Jim Leavell --Dallas detective handcuffed to Oswald-said later he wanted to transfer Oswald earlier on Sunday morning quietly, but he was overruled -- had the transfer been done his way, Oswald might have survived, too late now
ya you mean like how the Dallas police also called off all the police and told all officers on duty not to give any protection to the president because the secret service was going to handle all of the security. Tho i have a feeling fritz was not actively involved in the plot to kill JFK and might not of even been a very willing participant of the cover up being hes one of the only ones that was still honest and even said later he thinks Oswald did something but did not think there was any evidence he killed the president and would be found innocent if he ever went to trial.
This is the first time I have heard Buell say (29:00 et seq.) that LHO crossed Houston St near the Daltex building corner opposite TSBD after shooting. This is consistent with LHO heading towards the bus that took him back towards his boarding house in Oak Cliff so he wasn't the person seen getting into a Nash Rambler on Elm St near TSBD.
There were doubles. Robert this was a CIA operation.
Check out Armstrong's research.(LEE AND HARVEY]
Deputy Roger Craig saw Oswald or a look alike jumping in the Rambler and saw him again during a hearing at the police station.
He also stated that the gun found on six floor was indeed a 7.65 Mauser riffle, not a MC.
Craig was policeman of the year.
After his statements his life turned into tragedies.
Ask me a story I told at 20 and maybe 40 and then interview me at 73 you will probably get a slightly different story because you've had time to recollect the events.
@@josephtobin3347 Partially correct. Mafia was used for the actual hit team. Somewhere between 3 and 5 "shooters" were in Dealey Plaza nad ALL were instructed to ONLY take a shot if they had a clear path for a "kill" shot. They DID NOT want the area to be filled with 10-15 shots all over the place because that would signal a conspiracy.
Buell seems like a very down to earth person that would give his shirt off his back. I get the impression of an honest and sincere fella that was forced into the spotlight because of his acquaintance with Oswald.
I always believed his testimony about what he saw and witnessed that day. It does indeed raise serious doubt to the overall conclusions of the warren commission.
The 2ft. Bag length, No brown paper bag seen on oswald the day before, the exact route of oswald leaving the tsbd just after the shooting. These details contradict with the official ruling some way or another and we should all be suspicious of the lone nut determination we were forced fed
Also with the Capt. Fritz episode of writing out a conspiracy confession and threatening violence if buell didn't sign, Shows me 1 of 2 things.
1) Fritz new the real conspirators and was forcefully trying to blame it on others
2.) Fritz had no idea who did it and was poking at straws to get a signed confession and close the case asap.
But did Oswald return to work? Why wasn't that question asked? Why wasn't Oswald outside with everyone else to watch the President go by? Why did he leave, rather than go ask his coworkers what was going on? He had to hear commotion. I would have to conclude that he did shoot, or he knew he would get blamed. But if law enforcement knew Oswald would be blamed, why did they press Frazier for a confession? Were any curtain rods ever found? Maybe he took a rifle inside on a previous date. Or maybe the rifle was disassembled inside the package. Maybe the package contained ammo. I doubt that it would have contained a scope, because he wouldn't have had an opportunity to dial in the scope on location. I am suspicious of Frazier's answer on where he thought the shots came from. It just didn't sound right.
He said that Oswald was not at work after the shooting because they did a roll call and Oswald was gone. I heard other employees left also because the building was sealed off and flooded with investigators. The way this investigations went, they could have found curtain rods and they could have disappeared like so much of the other evidence did. Found curtain rods could have meant not guilty. That's the problem with all of this, they made evidence disappear, they fabricated evidence, they altered evidence, they pressured witnesses, witnesses disappeared. Loud sounds in a city with all the echoes can be difficult to figure out the exact location of the shots, I understand his answer on that, plus he was tucked in the doorway.
The scope? I've wondered about hat? How was it dialed in? And. when?
Brad H...I heard an interview of Harold Weisberg quoting Roy Truly from the WC testimony in that there were never any curtain rods found! But Weisberg observed that there was a shed attached to the TSBD that was probably never searched...I recommend the Whitewash video on You Tube...Weisberg is no nonsense and was asking the right questions even in those days
And you just proved that Oswald didn’t fire a shot that day. It would’ve been impossible to properly sight in the scope on a disassembled rifle.
Fascinating, first time I have heard of this guy. I would love to ask him about the details surrounding the fact that the boss granted the employees a paid break( probably 30 mins) off work to watch the parade.
I my experience when that happens everyone takes the boss up on the offer, no matter what the reason. If Oswald as a fellow employee carried on working, surely would have been looked on as strange and risked more mockery from co workers!
If he was outside watching like the others he couldn't have been upstairs shooting, if he refused the offer to watch the parade wouldn't that have raised the alarm and be a factor in where he was or wasn't at the time?
Thank you. The day America changed for the worst.
Kevin Bacon's character Willie O'Keefe in JFK, "Fascism is coming back!"
Wow, amazing interview Mr. Meros. It's so important for these witnesses that are left to record their testimonies for the sake of history before they pass on, as so many others have. One question I would have asked of Mr. Frazier would have been if he knew why Lee was rooming in Dallas when he could have commuted with Mr Frazier every morning.
Pretty simple, Ruth Paine wasn’t that fond of Oswald. She was helping Marina not Lee.
Stewart J You are absolutely right. Ruth allowed Lee to visit Marina but she neither had room nor did she want Lee to live at her house
Thank you, Mr. Meros.
and another question is if you look at the picture closely you can see the two secret service man looking right at Oswald as if they were wondering why he was standing there
I am sure Buell Wesley Frazier was not knowingly involved but the curtain rods story has a few problems. Were any curtains or curtain rods found in the TSBD on or after Friday 22nd November ? Did anyone see them being removed from the TSBD ? Did Marina Oswald ever acknowledge that she made curtains for Lee's rooming house room ? Did Lee buy the curtain rods or where did he obtain them ? Did the lady at the rooming house discuss putting up curtains with Lee ? Buell Wesley Frazier must have been terrified when he saw Lee Oswald shot by Jack Ruby that he would be rearrested or worse. He would have found it hard to admit that the package might have been the rifle broken down. There are a few other possibilities than the package contained Lee's rifle. Lee may have wanted to post something he kept in Ruth Paine's house that he didn't want to explain to Buell about. He may have been asked to do so at the last minute. He was planning a trip to Cuba and Russia for several weeks. It is unlikely that moving the rifle into place would be left to last minute chance. The package seems more likely to have been part of the "patsy" setup as a last minute request during the previous week. The packaged rifle was probably moved into the TSBD on Thursday night or very early Friday morning (to avoid discovery) having been taken from Ruth Paine's house much (even 2 weeks) earlier.
Excellent interview. Oddly , Mr Frazier worked previously at a curtain manufacturer where his job was wrapping and packaging curtain rods. This , i haven't seen anyone press him on this as it is a strange coincidence.
Ok so if it wasn’t a rifle and in fact curtain rods why did he bring them into his job number 1 . Number two what ever happened to the curtain rods ?
I'm guessing he was not planning on getting a ride home that day. He was living in a boarding house in Dallas and said he was taking the curtain rods to the boarding house. No need to walk all the way back to the car if he was not going back to Irving later that day.
@@alf51175 ...and that would be a very long walk to the employee parking lot asthey described it.
Will never forget that day. I was 12 and just coming of age.
I wonder why Wesley used meters instead of yards in describing the distance from his parking spot to the TSBD?
Back in the 60's America was TRYING to convert to the Metric System like the rest of the World. I remember vividly our Metric System courses when I was in School in the Mid 50's. As you know that attempt failed Miserably! Lol!
@@thespy7795 The metric system didn’t pass Congress until 1975, not the 60s not even close.
In the 1986 mock trial he was shown a pic of a man standing on that step in front of the TSBD and was asked who was it and he said it resemble Lee harvey oswald,
Some "leading questions" but still a nice video. Thanks.
Frazier was arrested when the Dallas Police found a high powered rifle and tons of ammo. Frazier told the police chief that Oswald did not have anything that he put in the car when Frazier drove him to work. The police chief told Frazier they would put him in the electric chair if he didn't change his story to fit the narrative that Oswald was the shooter. After they released Frazier he disappeared for years, joining the Army and staying away from Dallas.
Not true he was still living with his sister and working at the Depository in 64, he absolutely did not disappear after he was released.
Buell Wesley Frazier, is a good man. Thanks. THEY NEED A PATSY, if the first one got away.
Who had the bag lunch that was found on the 6th floor if oswald didn't carry a bag lunch that day ?
It was Wallace eating the lunch
12pm everyone went to watch the parade, truly gave permission. The guy outside with the fake seasure allowed everyone to get in position, including Wallace and rosella in the 6th floor dressed as construction guys, there was construction on that floor tha day. The lunch was purchased down the street so seeing a workman with lunch at lunchtime would not be unusual.
Dave Zeiss- If your talking about the bag containing a chicken bone and a bottle of soda it belonged to another tsbd employee that was eating lunch in the 6th floor shortly before jfk was assassinated. I can't remember his name but he testified that he was there untill 1215-1220?? And that he did not observe anyone on that floor during that time. He later went down to the 5th floor to watch the motorcade with fellow co-workers and must of been kinda lazy to not throw away his food scraps & trash, IMHO.
Read WC testimony of Bonnie Ray Williams who ate his lunch in 6th floor window near snipers nest until 12.20 pm & left his lunch sack & pop bottle there.
See my answer directly above.
Are 24'' curtain rods a bit short for curtains? Just asking.
They expand inside out
@@randywatts7085 Up to 32 or 36"
I question what Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier claims he saw. I have gone shopping at home depot-Target-And Walmart at various times in my 55 years. And Ive purchased and seen countless others in those 55 years buy curtain rods. I NEVER-EVER saw anyone carry curtain rods like the way he described. Under the armpit..? Really Really.........?
Do you suspect Oswald was able to make those shots with a 24" rifle ?
Wayne Williams a riffle that had to have shims added by the police to make the thing fire straight.
Yes it's unusual. They covered this carrying style of the curtain rods (if that was what was in the package) in 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald'
What happened to the remains of the chicken bag lunch found by the "snipers nest"? Is it possible there was some DNA left on it? When did oswald eat it? Wasn't he working all morning? He obviously wasn't there the night before and he wasn't there after the shooting. Not much was/has ever been said about that. When did oswald have time to make "the snipers nest"? During coffee break? Did anyone see oswald building it or even acting suspiciously that day or the day before? What was the earliest that it was public knowledge that Kennedy would be going by the book depository? If oswald did it someone told him in advance or he had some sort of previous knowledge somehow, from someone.
That would be interesting if they could test for DNA. The chicken bag lunch was not Oswald's and he did not eat it there at the window. There is another TSBD employee who acknowledged that he had eaten there (Williams is his name, I think). He did state that while he was eating his lunch that he did not hear anyone in the location of the snipers nest window. Oswald was seen in the lunch room approximately 15 mins before the motorcade passed and he was seen approximately 90 secs after the shooting in the lunch room. And no one inside the TSBD saw Oswald carry anything into the building that morning.
There's something that bothers me... The route of the motorcade was changed at the last moment, I am sure Oswald did not know that. There's something inside me that tells me he never shot the president and that package really contained curtains. There could not be any rifle... Also because the police found a Mauser 7,65 not a manlicher carcano...
50th anniversary of the US becoming a bananna republic ruled by the military.
I am curious to know if Frazier was threatened by the Dallas Police or others concerning the British Enfield rifle that was found on the roof of the TSBD. Frazier owned that exact brand rifle. I'm not saying it was his rifle just that the an Enfield rifle was found on the roof that day. It's been verified. Mauser and Carcano found on the 6th floor. The report of this is that the Dallas Police use to frame suspects and DA Wade practice this often. Dallas District Attorney Wade had hundreds of his cases overturned because of it. Frazier was forced into the story of Oswald and the curtain rods or be charged himself with the murder of JFK. Loading dock foreman and others saw Oswald that morning entering the building empty handed. If anyone has the chance to ask the question please do.
Wow, what an awesome story.
One day the truth will come out and when it does the SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN ..
Unfortunately, no it won't since the people involved have mostly died off already. However, we have already heard the truth in one of the theories about what happened but just don't know what to believe as the actual truth.
The truth is out and their and they still think oswald did it. Rfk murder is just as bad as is 9-11 . They all have the same circumstances missing testimony , missing or destroyed photos and murdering witnesses
yes, where are the curtain rods? why did lee run away and hide in the theatre... ?
it's unclear at the end when he's saying he saw Lee one more time after the shooting, did he say he saw him come out by the dock? So was Wesley in the back of the building at that point? He mentions being at the bottom of the steps, was that the front steps where he saw the President or the back steps where the dock is? He doesn't say anything about his own movements after the shooting.
Yeah, I was confused by that too. Why would Frazier go to the back?
I have the film showing it was a Mauser first found..a real video that you see taken inside the floor as the police looked around...they said flat out on the barrel it said 7.65 Mauser and it's in all the FBI documents and the Dallas Police Dept..once they(who controlled the news media)made them change it to the other rifle.. I spent 5 years on this and I've come to the end of the rabbit hole and 1,000 of things I've read and pictures I saw and video and Roger Craig i know how it all happened..and remember LBJ didn't know till the night before about the Event, And in LBJ's last interview said he knew who did it..he died 10 days later...then Roger Craig the real hero of this said if any other great proof came out he would be dead and after Geraldo Riveria showed the Z film in 75 again 10day ater Craig was shot in his driveway his dad watched(later told the story) and they ruled it suicide in the chest from a shit gun lol cum on..12 of the deaths were done by suicide from getting shot in the back of the head in a downward angle an "execution death" and those were ruled suicide even though it was impossible to shoot yourself in the back of the head straight down..gezz us...people need to learn the facts theres alot and move on with trying who ever is still alive and putting names on those deaths
Did LBJ really say he knew who did it? I thought he only said he didn’t believe in the WR’s conclusions.
There's a woman, I'm sorry i can't remember her name, she gathered and analyzed every known statement LHO muttered after his arrest. Not once did he give even a hint that he shot anyone. He specifically denied it several times and stated he felt he was being set up as a patsy.
Great Interview Tom. I have a question and comment. When Buell said that the police brought in a statement to sign that he refused to sign, do you think that Buell was supposed to be part of the setup without his knowledge? Do you think that once they had their patsy in Oswald, they needed one more innocent patsy and they chose Buell to sign a confession that said he knew about Oswald being involved in the murder of the President? Also, do you think if Buell at 19 years old had been bullied into signing this document, that history would be different in that now it would include Buell and if so, do you think Buell would have been killed shortly after the assassination also to silence him?
Great interview..........
Do I think the package was a rifle? No.
Do I think the package was curtain rods? Also no.
If the Paine house was so close to Frazier's home, why wouldn't Oswald ride home with him every night? Why the need to have a room in Oak Cliff to stay at during the week? It sounds like Oswald could arrange a ride with Frazier very easily, as he did on Thursday, Nov 21, so why not go home every night?
Because Oswald lived alone in a rooming house and only visited Marina at the weekends - because they were separated.
Credible Story Oswald Brought The Curtin Rods Into The Book Depository And It Was Final Curtins For The Patsy Amazing Story Dana Rowe
Were the curtain rods ever found/verified? They should have been there somewhere
@@keriwilliams8980 Oh no. The Warren Commission said it was the Mannlicher Carcan rifle that was in the paper sack. Not curtain rods. But, it was most certainly NOT the rifle. Was too long to cup in his hands and put under his arm pit. Could Not have bee the rifle.
Did anyone find the curtain rods David Vornholt
The Altgens 6 photo (that you show in this video) is not the only photo or film captured of the TSBD steps that day during the motorcade. While it's true Frazier is not visible in the Altgens 6 photo - because, indeed, he was back in the shadows - he can be plainly seen in the DARNELL FILM near the middle of the entry, up on the top step/landing, just to the west of the handrail (NB: the Darnell film is sometimes called the "Couch film" in error! As I understand it, Groden spliced together a bit of the Darnell film with the Couch film, to show Baker's complete sprint to the steps, and called it the "Couch film"). You can't see the handrail but he has said in testimony he was to the west of the handrail. In the Wiegman film, which also briefly captures the TSBD entry/steps partially, he can't be seen since the camera doesn't pan far enough right - he's likely just barely off screen to the right.
Picture of Oswald's room at the time shows curtains hanging, so curtain rods were already there.
Did the woman who rented Oswald the room ever verify his story? If not, than Oswald did not have curtain rods in that package
Mark Spitzok nor a riffle. Hopefully the book Me & Lee might throw some light on what Lee might have carried to work that day. Just ordered it.
The package could have been either. Curtain rods, which were never found; or a disassembled rifle. But the rifle had been oiled and no stains were found on the paper covering. Doubt therefore over both objects
I had known that Mr Frazier had lived in Huntsville, TX, but I was not aware that he was born in Highlands, TX, east of Houston, near Baytown, TX. Apparently, although not of his choosing, he is part of one of the most historic events of U S History.
wow they tried to Make him sign thee papers, very interesting NO PUN INTENDED
So did they EVER find the bag containing curtain rods???? And WHY would you need to bring curtain rods into your place of work instead of simply leaving them in the car????
Had he made arrangements to get a ride home with Buell after work?
Always wondered about the curtains in the rental. I could be wrong but usually rented furnished rooms have blinds, shades, curtains already?? However this has not been emphasized very much. I feel the investigation on a whole has lots of loose ends that aren’t explained.
Buell please tell me if you think there wasn’t a rifle in lee’s package and we know that lee Oswald lied about the curtain rods?what do you really think was in that package?it wasn’t his lunch!you only knew lee Oswald for a month!so really You didn’t know him on a personal level!
If there was it in no way precludes conspiracy.
thankghaud! for the press !!!
Tom, you do great work, but next time you interview Buell, If you want to see him sweat and break out in nervous tics...you need to ask Buell who was standing to his RIGHT, in the corner (and one step down from him) - it's not Bill Shelly, or Billy Lovelady! AND ask him who was taking his (Buell's) photo there on the TSBD steps. We'll never see that film, for sure! Here's a frame from the Couch film that captures him (the Darnell film is sometimes called the "Couch film" in error): i57.servimg.com/u/f57/18/50/79/06/195_pm10.jpg
Thanks for sharing the pic. But are you saying that’s Jack Ruby to the right of Frazier? Kind of looks like him.
Sounds like the Agency Spooks got to him good. They always tell people that they are "Confused" and didn't hear or see what they initially knew that they did.
Anybody know what the music is during the opening footage?
Abraham, Martin and John - 1968 by Dion. ruclips.net/video/yZfRyWPZAII/видео.html
the song is about the killings of Lincoln, JFK, and RFK.
Another interesting take is Kris Kristofferson’s. “They killed him” song.
Did anyone look for or find curtain rods? If he wasn't carrying the rifle what happened to the package?
Others in here have said they were never mentioned nor recovered, like so much else fron that day.
Please watch the RUclips video "Two Men in Dallas."
Oswald is just easily the unluckiest man that ever lived. Bet he wishes he hadn't carried those 'curtain rods' to work and left for good 4 minutes after JFK was shot now. I'm sure he knew he didn't need to be questioned about this at all, President's dead = free day off work, better sneak into a movie.
Where did the chicken come from If Oswald brought it to work with him, I'm sure that Buell would have noticed it, or had smelt it? He made no mention of lunch being carried in! A bag with chicken bones was found at the scene. Who ate those?
Bonnie Ray Williams
It was the remnants of another employee's lunch. A black fellow who was later interviewed.
Have seen him interviewed a few times, he tells a slightly different story every time. Never heard him say he invited Lee in for a cup of coffee that morning before.
what difference does it make ?
Tell..us..what..you..did..on..a..certain..day???......the..man..at..this..time..is..73yrs..old
Not true. He answers the questions he is asked at the time.
I think buell is lying a about the curtain rod, I believe the curtain rod story came from the FBI, a deal made under hours of interrogation.
In another video buell says candidly " they sure knew what they were doing " in reference to picking curtain rods in the package.
I don't know what Oswald brought in that day , if he brought anything at all.
The mystery is why did he go to Irving Thursday night ?
Buell is sticking to this story, I really don't think he remembers or he's afraid still.
Buell told the DPD around 3pm on the day of the assassination that Lee carried a package into work that morning.
He said Lee said it was curtain rods and that Mrs Paine had a spare set.
Mrs Paine said Oswald NEVER mentioned curtain rods at anytime and Marina said the same.
Ruth DID have a spare curtain rod in the garage, but it was STILL there on Friday 22nd.
Oswald already had curtains in his room.
Buell asked Lee what was in the bag and he said remember, curtain rods.
Buell asked Lee what about lunch and Lee said he would buy his lunch.
Oswald told the DPD he took his lunch to work.
So Oswald lied......
It is possible that Buell felt bad that he did not quiz Lee on the package and so lied about thinking it was about 26 inches long.
Lee never took curtain rods to work that day, he took the rifle.
@@patrickcollins7407 yeah maybe, but I don't think so.
Too many things about the whole story don't add up.
Buell was just a kid back in 63, not too bright and very scared during interrogation that lasted hours.
No real documented questioning exists, Oswald gets wacked going to county jail where he'll inevitably get council.
Imo, Lee probably just brought his lunch.
Buell is lying ! 50 years later buell says he saw Lee leave the building shortly after the assassination, he has never mentioned this before.
Like Oswald said, I'm just a patsy ! Why would he even say that ? makes no sense unless others are involved.
@@patrickcollins7407 Buell's sister also testified that she saw the package and it was too short to be the gun even if it were disassembled.
I'm sorry I think this man is lying the guy standing in front of The Book Depository is Lee Harvey Oswald even his mother seen that picture and said that's my Lee Who would know one better than one's mother
Dave Trump at that point Lee was getting change & getting himself a coke on the second floor , 3 wittiness attested to that.
so let me get this straight this man Road oswal to and from work and the day that the president is coming they all get permission to watch the president go by and this man who Road oswal to and from work didn't go say to him are you coming to watch the president something don't seem right about that
Dave. I am curious. What country are you from.??
What happened to the curtain rods? Did the Dallas PD take possession of them?
Edward Norton that’s still an answered mystery whatever was in the package.
Oswald was a patsy
So - no rifle in the bag is the entire thesis of this video. Okay. Now what? What happened to the "curtain rods?" Nobody seems to care about this exculpatory resource.
Jeff Stewart, in the TV miniseries 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' it was shown that there was enough doubt about taking in the rifle in a covered paper bag as the package was too short unless the gun was disassembled and even then, wouldn't have fitted under the arm. Also had it been in parts there should have been oil stains on the brown paper covering, but there weren't. The curtain rods would have fitted in a package and fitted under the arm. But as you say they were never found. So both items in doubt. However in that TV miniseries, the point was simply that there was reasonable doubt, and had LHO lived and gone to trial, it would have been very hard to prove that LHO brought that rifle to work with him.
Did he have a chicken dinner with him or not? Along with his curtain rods. It's the only only question.
I'm just a patsie.
Lee oswald wait for lift from Wisley and few hours to shoot president of united state. From building he started working 5 weeks ago. He drinks coke Chillin in canteen. Makes absolutely zero sense.
This guy said he saw lee harvey Oswald walking out the back of the texas school depository(after the assassination) and then there people who say they saw him walk out in the front the texas school depository (a reporter saw Oswald after the assassination and asked for a telephone and met up with Oswald in the front of the texas school depository). There were two Oswalds and one of them shot at the president (along with the other gunmen that all surrounded the plaza, behind the knoll, at railway lines, in the storm drain and in the buildings near the texas school depository )and the other(the one that went Russia) Oswald was set up as a patsy.
Great honest interview. Funny how police will try to force a confession without investigating the evidence. Glad he never signed or changed his story.
There are questions I would like to ask Mr. Frazier that I have never heard asked and I have watched many of his interviews. I feel its important because many of the witnesses are no longer with us and soon there will be none. We may never get the truth. Mr. Frazier seems very honest and trustworthy.
Thanks for the upload
+Lee Hill What questions?
+Lee Hill
What are your questions? Could you please list them here? My friend, Gayle Nix Jackson (whose gf shot the Nix Film), lives in the area and speaks with Buell regularly and could ask him. I'd be glad to pass you questions on to Gayle. She's awesome, btw!
i would like to ask Mr Frazier what were the thoughts of his co workers, Supervisor and Boss a few weeks after that weekend.
How many believed Oswald was guilty and did Mr Frazier end up believing Oswald was the assassin of JFK ??
+Lee Hill Google shows 4 comments to my post. I would like to respond but when I get here the comments are gone. Why are they being deleted?
Who were the people working on the 6th floor...was it a construction company or the TSBD employees...were they accounted for after the assassination...were they questioned...
Can anyone say CIA operation? Reminds me of the Vegas Massacre!
I though he would finally the tell lthe truth. I guess not.
One issue, the main issue I have with the single shooter theory is why did one bullet go through "cleanly" into Pres. Kennedy's neck area yet the next bullet, from the same gun, had the capacity to wreak horribly massive destruction to the President's head?
The murder weapon was obviously not the Mannlicher-Carcano - that was simply the set-up prop used to incriminate Oswald. What if Oswald, fulfilling his role as co-conspirator, was smuggling into the Depository building another type of rifle, the actual murder weapon, for another shooter? A superior and sophisticated rifle of incalculably greater accuracy and reliability, one that can be broken down to a portable length (24"?) and then quickly and easily reassembled.
Someone would have seen the stranger in the building - its not that big, and everybody knew everybody else. On the other hand its obvious that they gave Oswald the job in the book depository with some made-up intelligence assignment story. Oswald, whom the CIA picked as an agent at age 20, among these folks who have to learn how to order books - its like putting Einstein among high school teachers. Pretty sure Oswald also was suspicious that something doesn't add up about his "assignment", but he never guessed what will be his final role - the designated patsy.
@@NorceCodine The flooring on one of the floors was being replaced. There were multiple non-TSBD employees moving around and in and out building.
Buell saw Oswald walking towards the TSBD with the package under his arm pit. Buell wouldn't have watched him pull out the package from the back seat, as he was busy with checking out whether he had enough charge in his battery. Buell then followed Oswald at quite a distance, therefore he wouldn't have been able to tell how long the package was, all he saw was Oswald holding the package under his arm pit with his right hand. The gun was wrapped, Oswald basically tucked it under his arm pit, gun stock first, grabbed the rest with his right hand, it's only brown paper, about halfway down the barrel and walked away. In fact, had he handled it any differently, like carrying it like one would carry a gun, it would have looked very suspicious; there's no mystery here.
Had it been curtain rods, Oswald would likely have waited for Buell to finish and walk to work together but he was anxious to get his package inside asap, so he didn't stick around. In fact, I would have asked Buell that question "Did you find it unusual or odd that Oswald didn't wait for you before walking to the TSDB, after all, it's common courtesy to wait"?
Furthermore, it was noon, lunch, so it was normal for Oswald to leave the building, except he didn't come back, why, because he had just shot the President. Hadn't he been the shooter, he would have returned, he was a good employee, hard worker, therefore not a slacker. Oswald knew the route of the motorcade and decided to act on it, a crime of opportunity by a deranged man. He was a good shooter too, a trained sniper. The two shots that hit JFK were easy shots for him.
There's no conspiracy, no LBJ involvement, it's an assassination by a lone gunman.
Even if Oswald had the old Italian rifle instead of curtain roads in paper or a box , There is no way Lee Harvey could have hit JFK with that old Italian rifle . The Italians called it the rifle that never hit anything on purpose . At the very most Oswald could have been recruited by cia to be one of the assassins . But no way , even if Oswald was one of the Assassins , even if he was not in that room but very close behind the hedges on the grassy knoll , none of Oswald's shots would have hit JFK . Oswald was a terrible marxman , even with a decent fire arm .
Patsy
Very good interview his story sounds 100% but I believe he wasn't really paying attention to that package and that package might have been a rifle in there.... And why did the lady identify Oswald as the man that shot the police officer if he didn't shoot the president why was he acting so guilty...
Evidence was miss handle no gloves
Why would the Police turning their bikes on and off...thats shady and creepy...LBJ ducked