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Jack Ruby's timely time-stamped visit to Western Union
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2014
- On Sunday, November 24, 1963 Dallas Police Det. James Leavelle wore a white suit. Wearing a white suit in Dallas 48 hours after JFK's assassination was as meaningful as wearing a clown costume to a funeral. It was an insult that made no sense. Leavelle was the only man who wore a full white business suit in Dallas during that entire weekend. And, it was on the day that he was escorting Oswald the "patsy" to his death in the police station. Was Leavelle ordered to wear the white suit? Was he told what to do, unknowingly playing a pivotal role in Ruby's mission to murder Oswald. Or, was he intentionally sending a signal to Ruby as part of a well choreographed maneuver to allow Ruby to be in the optimum position at the proper time? You can decide after viewing this video.
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It’s amazing under mass confusion and chaos, the Dallas police department solved two murders, one being the assassination of the President is a matter of a few hours. 6 hours after the assassination countries around the world were already printing Oswald’s photo into their newspapers.
When was the last time a murder was solved this quickly? As we could hear him say, Fritz I believe correct me if I’m wrong, “without giving detail as to the evidence before I speak to the District Attorney, we have this cinched.”
That’s really impressive work boys. It’s almost as if someone handed you a fully developed investigation of two highly publicized public murders in one nice neat package. Weird!
The skill, coordination, and genius of the Dallas PD in 1963 was off the charts.
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Since when do detectives parade around with a murder weapon held up high for all to see?
Great footage! Really appreciate this fascinating approach, using original film. Every tiny bit of detail concerning the JFK case is important. I'm 80 and lived through this horror. Thanks for your effort.
At his midnight press conference, when Oswald says, "reporters in the hall" - his voice quivers. He was scared to death and knew at that moment, that he was doomed...
The killing of JFK has left tremors around the world until this day. It was a coup of the American government by Americans. The single most criminal act against our citizenry that has ever been undertaken and will never be solved or brought to justice. Just seeing the man carry the murder weapon through a crowd makes me sick. I was a homicide investigator and also protected dignitaries in my career. The lax security over the entire three days is mind boggling. Some can be chalked up to people wanting their 15 minutes of fame, which I have seen at many murder scenes, but others astound me with the blatant incompetence. Some has to be placed at the feet of a cover up.I watched Ruby shoot Oswald live on TV as a kid. I will never forget it. My heart breaks at the injustice of it all to this day.
William Adamy sr I,completely,agree with you,Mr.Adamy,Sr.I,was a young person,when I saw Ruby shoot Oswald,and my first response was out loud" do they really expect people,to believe this?" The whole situation was as phony as a three dollar bill.My parents were in the room,when I verbalized that statement about the shooting of Oswald by Ruby,and stared at me,with a puzzled look on their faces.
@@nancysanders2398 And yet...there isn't a damn thing the people can do about it. Our leaders just get more brazen about it now. The 2008/09 mortgage crisis in which not one of the criminals that destroyed our economy were brought to justice, and the recent 'suicide' of Jeffrey Epstein. Collectively we all said, Do they really expect anyone to believe this? They got away with it in '63, the murder of a President, they can get away with anything now.
William, it does make one's soul ache to see the level of controlled chaos and incompetence at work here to prevent us from ever knowing the truth. Watching this, much of it I've never seen before, it's obvious it was orchestrated that way, all of it, from the body being taken away illegally before an autopsy could be performed in Dallas, to the murder of Oswald. It was a coup d'état from which this country never recovered, and unfortunately never will. And collectively we know it at our deepest core.
Really interesting your comments and disturbing
Agreed. The way they paraded Oswalt down that hallway in front of reports 11 times was unbelievable . Reporters could never get inside a police station these days. Somehow the international media had a full bio life story of Oswalds printed in newspapers around the world the next morning before Oswalt had ever been “convicted” in Dallas. This was the beginning of broadcast journalism and now in 2020 by looking at back at all of the avavliable media from the day (hundreds of hours) you can conclude that the infancy of broadcast journalism contributed to the overall conspiracy. This day was the day the rouge cia seized the control and the future direction of broadcast journalism.
They had an armored truck waiting to transfer him but jack ruby walked into a building with 65 police officers and shot Oswald who had no protection in front of him
They knew ruby..,it was a different time and place people and the lights were so bright they couldnt see him right away
Those were the days that criminals were also dressed-up same as regular people & cops so he could slip right-in under their noses, pretty much like nowadays, coupled with purposely 'laxed' presidently secret-service agents which made it easier to get to both the president and the escapegoat?!🐒
Assume for a second that Oswalsd did kill President Kennedy, what was the real reason Ruby killed Oswald I do not buy it was because Ruby was a patriot. One crazed gunman, perhaps, but two??
@@johnlushisjr8569 - Either to keep Oswald quiet or make it look like Oswald needed to be kept quiet. Those are two distinctly different purposes.
Oswald's motive is never discussed in the official version of the events. Mainly because he didn't have one. WC and it's supporters usually mention his need to make a name for himself, to have his moment. Did we hear, "Long live Cuba!" of "JFK had to die because of ..." or anything along those lines? NO. Instead, we hear "no sir I didn't shoot anyone". So much for taking advantage of the opportunity to make a name for himself or to be known for doing something significant.
Oswald apparently didn't have it in for JFK, and maybe even liked him. I too was troubled by lack of motive. Then James Reston Jr. wrote a book that for me explains it all. He argues that Oswald had a dishonorable discharge (that was done, unjustly, after his service ended because he defected to Russian). That kept him from getting jobs. He was obsessed about it and felt it kept him in poverty. So Reston thinks Oswald's real target was Connally. Connally had been Secretary of the Navy at the time (Oswald had been a Marine). Oswald appealed to Connally to remove the stigma of the dishonorable discharge but Connally refused. So Oswald may have had a motive to kill Connally and JFK was simply in the way.
I'm sure he made one statement...'I'M A PATSY!!!'
@@penrythajanitor1977 Yes, that's all we needed to know and hear.
oswald was in the lunch room as a motorcycle officer, upon realizing shots came from the building, rode his bike up to the steps and jumped off, and started up the stairs, he looked in the second floor door window and saw oswald calmly walking across the floor with a can of soda, realizing he couldn't be involved , ran up to the 6th floor. oswald didn't have time to do the shooting, rearrange the boxes and be 4 floors down in that amount of time. regardless of re-enactments that supposedly show he could have. they can twist the facts to prove all kinds of things when it favors their storyline
Jay Jackson Wrong .Researchers got from 6 th floor window to 2 Nd floor within the time frame Baker saw him .
@@barryirvin2417 Did the "reseachers" shoot at a human being before they ran down 6 floors? All the so-called reenactments performed by the people who said Lee Oswald was guilty were done based on theory. In other words, how Oswald COULD have killed J. Kennedy. Computers and physic labs. Btw, in physic labs, the improbable is proven. I was in a physics lab where they "proved" that you could place an infant on one end of a lever, (in this particular lab, the lever looked like a see-saw) and the earth on the opposite end of the lever and the infant could "lift" the earth in the up position.
@@barryirvin2417 Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles were on the stairs right after the shuts rung out. She didn't see or hear anybody. Her testimony was altered in the Warren report.
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Never thought about him wearing a white suit when no one else did. My mother even said at the time of Oswald's arrest that she didn't think he'd get out alive
The rifle that Walter Cronkite first reported as the weapon that shot JFK was a Mauser 7.65 Argentinian make and not the improperly sighted Italian job that Oswald owned!
Haha... the real Italian job... a worn piece of small calibre el cheapo low-end knock-off $13 Italian Car....cano junk that takes ages to re-load (in two bolt motions not just one) then to re-position hands, aim and fire. What a "smoking gun" if there ever was one, but hey they had the order receipt for it, so they stupidly decided to use it to go with their half-baked narrative. This was not a very good cover-up. Sorry.
Why didn't the chief say "way to go Leavelle,,,, why not just wear a neon sign"!
Leavelle has always overstated his actions at the time of shooting. He stated he saw Ruby with a gun down by his side. He stated as Ruby reached out with his hand, Leavelle pulled on LHO causing him to twist which resulted in LHO being shot more on the left side than straight on. Look at the well known photos of the shooting. As Ruby reaches out, Leavelle is looking FORWARD! Done of the images show Leavelle looking in Ruby's direction. Also, Ruby shows up approximately 1 hour and 20 mins after the scheduled transfer time and it just happens to be right on time to see LHO being brought out. Broadcasted comments that day state that extreme security measures had been taken. Measures never before seen in Dallas. And yet a member of the public, carrying a gun was able to walk down the ramp just moments before the transfer? Just use common sense.
Autshot20: Things happen. People overlook gaps in coverage, in whatever form. From what I've read, Ruby was a sort of jailhouse character, who the police were used to seeing there and so he wasn't focused on, at least to the extent that he SHOULD have been. Things fall the through the cracks!!
@@JimInTally When you totally suck at your job, like the Dallas Sucking Police,,,, yes, things fall thru the cracks. Dumbass Curry, Fritz, what total morons !!
You say Ruby showed up an hour and twenty minutes after the scheduled transfer? I've never heard that before. Can you cite a source for me please?
@@_Thoughtful_Aquarius_ "What time do you think you will be ready tomorrow?" And he didn't know exactly and I said, "Do you think about 10 o'clock," and he said, "I believe so," and then is when I went out and told the newspaper people ... "I believe if you are back here by 10 o'clock you will be back in time to observe anything you care to observe." Jesse Curry (from the National Archive)
Rubenstein gave Oswald a Dallas police uniform at 02:45 .on 22 Nov 1963.....told oswald That he would escape in that uniform.
Well several things. The very word patsy would seem to imply others. No legal representation. Jim boy does seem to stand out like no other. This was the best film footage that I have seen on oswald. I am not sure of this but I can't remember seeing any police parading of an accused in front of cameras and reporters since that day. Lastly, it doesn't take a psychologist to see that Mr. Lee's tone his mannerisms his body lanquage all appear to be one of an innocent victim. Too bad he didn't yell out at the parading about Jack Ruby being involved...if he would have known that he was going to be killed ...he probably would have.
Rubenstein gave Oswald a Dallas police uniform at a 2:45 am meeting on 22 nov 1963...black pants were taken from the Paine garage to go along with the escape outfit!
Most younger people do not know nor do they understand because since this assassination, our culture is being systematically destroyed. But, it was considered improper for a man to wear a light colored suit in winter. And, I can tell you without a doubt, a police detectives wife in those days would never lay out a light colored suit for her husband period, not in November. It was to make Oswald easy to find and kill in the crowd. It makes me sick to my stomach when I go into department stores these days and find that half the neck ties for sale are already tied. The last few generations of what we call men are so damn dumbed down that they can't even dress themselves and they should be ashamed.
Excellent point about the suit color. Back in the day, NO one ever wore white after Labor Day. It wasn’t socially acceptable. People would have scoffed. He wouldn’t have shown up for work in a white suit except for during the Summer.
A white suit as far as i know , was only worn in the tropics or sub tropical regions. Dallas in november was neither . I was eleven when kennedy was murdered , i have seen the basement clip probably over a hundred times , but the white suit was always the elephant in the room , hidden in plain sight .
Yep, nor does a billionaire's wife set his dermatology appointments in 2001
Great Footage. I lived just around the corner. A child who grew up with this story....
You still live in the area ?
What did / do local people think really happened? Thanks
This is something I have never seen. In all of the JFK documentaries I have watched and all the research I have done on the assassination I have never seen most of this footage.
This all was on the news. Everyone was watching, they made sure of that! Cut off everything to show this. So much on the news facts given by police, interviews, all changed by the whim of the Warren Commission.
Very interesting theory! Leavelle actually said that he interviewed Oswald only once and it happened that Sunday morning on the 3rd floor of the police station...that's strange. He also knew Jack Ruby and he lied when he said that he saw Ruby rushing towards Oswald. The video clearly shows he was looking in another direction. The attitude of Captain Fritz is also strange. He is walking in front of them and does not even react when the shot is fired just behind him. He then gently turned as if he was expecting it. Imagine the noise of this shot in a basement!
For sure Ruby received a signal to enter just before the transfer. The original timing agreed by the DPD was 10:00 am (Warren Report). I also found an audio of Ruby where he said that he knew the time was 10:00am, not 11:21am.
Rather than Ruby waiting for Oswald, it was most likely the other way around. Officials stalled with the interrogation upstairs until it could be seen from the window that Ruby was leaving the Western Union office across the parking lot where he had conveniently established a time stamp. Once they knew Ruby was downstairs in the garage waiting, they moved Oswald. The conspicuous car horn sounds like a signal just moments before Oswald appears. We now know that Oswald was trained by Navy Intelligence and had several CIA "handlers" including George de Mohrenshield, Ruth Paine and husband Michael (who looked enough like Oswald to be his double) and Pricilla Johnson McMillan. A wax gunpowder residue test showed Oswald had not fired a rifle, but was discarded. Witnesses like Carolyn Arnold that corroborated Oswald's alibi that he was downstairs in or near the lunchroom were either ignored or their affidavits were altered. Oswald was exactly what he said he was: "a patsy," set-up to take the fall and publicly shot down by Ruby, a known associate of organized crime, before he could be put on trial.
Does anyone find it excessively peculiar that Dallas Police would discuss so much information on a prisoner during a homicide investigation revealing alleged evidence against Oswald, Oswald's alleged background, Oswald's alleged statements and telling newsmen exactly when they should be in the basement tomorrow morning at 10:00am to witness Lee Harvey Oswald's transfer?
I think Oswald was an intelligence asset. He kept saying Legal Representation ...or LEgal Assistance and emphasizing it. That was a message to get him out of there. I believe Clay Shaw contacted a lawyer in New Orleans to do just that. It could not be just any lawyer but one that would keep their mouth shut about anything Oswald might say about the government etc. Ruby in his Warren Commission testimony tells you why he shot Oswald. He kept talking about his sister ...whom he was living with ..who just got out of the hospital. Now why would you do that? He kept saying she was a good woman or things to that affect. For sure if Ruby did not shoot Oswald he and his sister would have been killed. Motivation. Oswald also gave out tips to who was involved among other things. He said they were charging him because he had been to Russia. To Roger Craig he mentioned the Rambler and then said do not bring Ruth Paine into this. Obviously that was a clue to do just that. He hated her and I think he knew her and her husband were Intelligence assets too. I believe Oswald was never to have made it as far as he did into the weekend. He was to have been killed at the book depository or the movie theatre. The extra time has now allowed us to view the assassination in a more skeptical light because of that.
James, I understand Oswald gave officers the name of a lawyer he wanted to represent him. That attorney was apparently one who had defended communists in the past, but the call was not made. Isn't this the case?
In an interview Ruth Paine said she was learning Russian from Oswald wife,but she also said she took 2 courses to learn Rissian.After all the time she and Oswalds wife spent together and Marina never did speak a bit of english, very odd,even the FBI hired an interpreter.
If you watch Lee's reactions, he seems most upset coming out of the lineup. I think that is right after he was told he was being charged for the murder. Previous interviews he calmly states he has not been charged and knows nothing about it. His change of attitude makes me believe that in earlier questions, he did not know what they were doing with him. I believe there were corrupt people involved from the lowest power points at the Dallas police station all the way through the Secret service, cia, fbi, mafia and on into the whitehouse possibly. There almost has to be cooperation from all these agencies. Not the agencies themselves but from people in authorities positions within them. I once saw a video of the ss guy shrugging his shoulders at someone who ordered him off of Kennedy's car right before they started in Dallas as if to say "wtf". There should have been agents riding on the back of that limo. Thank you for sharing this footage. I have never seen it before. Rip JFK, LHO, and America.
Well said... key MAJOR questions conveniently remain unanswered. An obviate cover-up by those at a high level.
Notice the horn blares at the exact second Oswald enters to basement. A second signal
This is a compelling bit of research. Also, the Dallas PD was in mourning, not for Kennedy, but for JD Tippett, one of their own. If the rest of the department was wearing black suits out of respect, why did Leavelle choose to wear white (actually, tan)? And I think we might be able to assume another long unsolved mystery of this case. Why did Jack Ruby leave his beloved dog in his car? Because he thought he would shoot Oswald, get a pat on the back from the police and drive home.
I think Ruby as been used as the second patsy rushed to kill Oswald.
Similar how Larry Silverstein and his kids conveniently all missed work at the Twin Towers on 9-11.
Or how he had that insurance policy on the towers for millions but if taken down by terrorist attacks he'd get in the billions. 3 days before it happened, coincidence,maybe, but highly fn doubtful
Did Ruby get treated by the Dallas PD in the same unprofessional way that Oswald did ? Any footage of him being paraded up and down before journalists for them to question at their will like a piece of meat?
A frame-up if there ever were one.
I'll say. Lee Oswald was set up as a patsy from day one.
I am a patsy .Not i am innocent , not , it wasn t me , not , i wasn t there , not , they have the wrong man . I am just a patsy . Hmmm .
He clearly states"I did not kill anyone",saying I'm a patsy was after all the bullshit intriguing.
THAT MY FRIEND IS ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!! PATSY MEANS SET-UP... CASE CLOSED
I thoroughly agree with the conclusion that Oswald was a patsy, the question remains... what are we, as responsible citizens who going to do about it?
Wow!! I had never seen this in slow motion, Oswald looks at at Jack Ruby with recognition on his face. Almost like...now what?
They were seen together in a vehicle by several witnesses in the days leading up to the shooting. They 100% knew each other.
Tom, if you're still checking this page, LHO's autopsy states an exit wound not much higher than the entrance wound, but there's a line of officers behind him so why weren't any of them hit?
Derek, actually the bullet did not exit the body; it traversed the body from left to right, lodging just under the skin on the right side. See the following:
(1.) Authorized Permit for Autopsy (p. 430): "bullet entered in front of left side, going through body & lodging just under skin on right side."
jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Post%20Mortem%20Appendix%20Pages/Pages%20O-11%20To%20O-17.pdf
(2.) Video (0:51) ruclips.net/video/lyRi509OyU0/видео.html. There it is mentioned that a single gun shot entered Oswald's left side and did not exit. Also 16:26; there it is reaffirmed that the bullet did not exit the body.
(3.) Complete Autopsy Report: page 6 notes 2 wounds, one a gunshot wound to the left front chest, the second an incised wound to the right chest.
www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/oswald,%20lee%20harvey_report.pdf
(4.) Page 3 of the above Autopsy Report: "The eleventh rib to the right of the midline is irregularly fractured and an exit type of wound in this region and in the soft tissue along the posterior axillary line right side there is an incised wound and fragmentation of the rib." The exit type wound described here is internal and perhaps has led to the misunderstanding that the bullet exited the body which it clearly did not.
I remember reading of one guy in law enforcement (I don't remember his name or affiliation) who walked into the room where Oswald was being "interrogated." He thought it was curious that nobody was taking notes. Imagine that! They seemed to be waiting for an appropriate moment to take Oswald downstairs. Someone in charge asked the writer if he had any questions for Oswald. As-in "golly gee shucks, we've got a little time here." It didn't occur to the writer that they were obviously waiting for an appointed time for Ruby to get into position, and information and notes were not needed.
Why would occur to Oswald that he was a "patsy"? Why wouldn't he just say either it was him or it was somebody else? What a stench.
Captian Fritz Notes were found in 1997
This is very interesting. As a researcher who has looked at every available piece of film evidence in this case in the last 50 years or so, it amazes me how the Leavelle suit was ignored. It may be that it was just what he had available to wear that day--but maybe not. Oswald points out to police that he was the only one in a t-shirt going into the lineup-- that seems hardly fair. The sling mounts on the rifle is a problem for sure. Oswald does appear to recognize Ruby in the press show-up and again in the jail basement--coincidence? Ruby later wrote in a letter from jail to someone named Joe, to "Stay away from P.T. Dean he is in the conspiracy." Patrick Dean was the DPD officer in charge of security in the Dallas Jail basement on 11/24/63.
Not to mention that DEAN was one of the officers that took Ruby to the Ground Ruby said Im sorry Dean Im Sorry and Dean said well Im in a heap of mess now Jack God Damn!
@@BrYStJohn Detective Archer also said in a filmed interview that after he was caught and arrested Ruby was very agitated, nervous and panicky and remained so for the next few hours. Then as soon as the report came in that Oswald had died in hospital Ruby calmed down and exhibited a sense of great relief.
"The necessary precautions will be taken, of course."
Of course..... didn't you see the armoured truck that prevented any incidence. Now don't you go looking for any weak links in the chain now... move along now like a good citizen.
Thank you for the video, I feel heart sorry for Lee Harvey Oswald. When he realised what they were accusing him of, he knew his death was inevitable. Such a tragedy so many lives lost, after JFK and to this day “they” still won’t tell the truth!
Wow finally someone else finally catches what I've been seeing for so long! When that reporter says "you have been charged" Lee's head whips right back to him & is in disbelief!!! He does it one more time than looks right to Ruby....ugh! Feel so horrible seeing that. There really is a good chance he was trying to save JFK. A memo Fromm a LEON prevented an attempt prior to this & the same warning went out the night before the assassination but they were all destroyed.. so so sad!
What intrigues me the most is the that the camera kept a perfect shot when ruby stepped forward and shot Oswald!
Everybody else panicked but not a flinch from the “camera man”.
Perfect ... from behind. No photo or video of Ruby's face.
@@lr8607 that's right... was it even Ruby?... or a look alike.
Did not know that the Western Union office was so close (and the sight-line) to the third floor office at DPD where Lee was being questioned that morning. There is much about DPD's actions and omissions that weekend that defies rational police procedure and practices.
It was real strange that Jack Ruby was at the Friday night press conference AND during Lee Oswald's transfer. He was also seen at Parkland Hospital on the day JFK was murdered by reporter Seth Kantor, although Mr. Kantor stated that the Warren Commission stated he was mistaken due to "stress".
MrAmbassador11 The Warren Commission had NO business telling witnesses what they saw,or did Not see.Commission Members had No right to " put words in someone's mouth."
Jr-Rubinstein said he was the one who knew all (central role).
First time seeing some of this footage,, Thank you
Well it's well-known that Jack Ruby knew a lot of the Dallas Police Department officers, as well as other law enforcement and governmental figures there in Dallas, because they were patrons at his nightclub,.? it seems to me like a lot of people were getting their knobs polished on a regular basis?
tlg tlg Dallas police department was quite corrupt and" influenced" by the Mafia.
the old carousel club, police work in dallas is hard work.
He was also a Chicago mobster named Jacob Rubenstein who worked for Frank Nitti.
Nancy Hamilton who was in charge of the bar at Ruby's Carousel Club said in a filmed interview that Ruby knew at least 600 of the 1200 Dallas police officers and also that he told her to bend over backwards to be nice to every police officer who came into the club and to never charge them for any drinks.
Just read Jim Garrisons book called on the trail of the assassin’s. I wore out the original copy that I bought and so I bought another copy. It is a book that I can read over and over and over and it fascinates me inceccently. Never trust governments.
They made it look like just a lucky break that Ruby arrived exactly as Oswald was to be moved but it was a carefully planned and coordinated assassination. They were watching for Ruby to come out of the Western Union office across the street and, apparently, Ruby was watching for Leavelle's white suit. They tried to claim that Oswald's motive was his hope of fame and yet he totally denies he did it.
You got it in one.
Oswald's recognizing glance at Ruby, before the shooting, shows up clearly in certain videos. But they are increasingly hard to find as the years go by.
LHO was looking into bright camera lights and he probably never saw Ruby until a second or two before he got shot!
Tried and convicted in the precinct and given a death sentence....without due process. Purposefully inciting public opinion with unprecedented and invasive coverage.
In 1988, I first had a chance to see all these clips. I remembered one of the first things I noticed was that guy wearing that white suit amongst everyone else wearing black suits. I remembered thinking, "what's with the white suit?"
Few years later I went, " ahhh! Got it." I remembered hearing they had a survey a week later and like, 65% or more people , at that time, believe there was a conspiracy of some sort....when you lie, it shows.
loads of police station footage you don't see in the JFK docs...and i've seen a lot. Thanks so much for this post
Try The LBJ library also. There is a lot on the the Jfk killing and the Oswald shooting .
Yes. The PM is very substantial on LHO but not so on JFK.
Tom, You have done such great work on these videos, you should make a playlist of the JFK related ones so they're easier to find.
Thank you for this video
! It’s also so crazy to me that they were completely protecting him the other days from everyone, but when he is being brought out there is such a substantial gap between the detectives that said “precautions will be taken” .
I think Fritz meant that precautions will be taken to keep Oswald in full custody, so nobody will help him escape.
For the other part, Remember that Ruby killed Oswald INSIDE a police station FULL of police officers and detectives so Ruby KNEW he would be captured-booked-charged. He was inside the police station with the reporters on friday and saturday to see if Oswald have talked.
The mystery to me is if Ruby knew he had to killed Oswald to silence him, why he did not do it on friday or saturday risking Oswald to talk on those two days.
And ANYBODY could have killed Oswald on friday-saturday-sunday. More people at that police station than at the mall...
Stupid Yankees protesting about the Vietnam war but would quickly vote for political candidates whose resumes include serving tours of duty for their military industrial complex.
look at all the police at the end, that’s exactly what should’ve been there as Oswald was being taken out.
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It's been awhile, but I am so glad I watched this video again!! Astoundingly eerie and mindblowing revelations here!! I never thought about that suit until now!! Just like they stuck the Limo out by itself in front and reduced Jfk's security! Also, if you've seen any of the Secret Copies of the Z Film, they backed off the Limo as the Limo turned the corner onto Elm (yeah it's really in there!!) Greer almost hit's the Center Median that divides Elm and the little side street in front of the Depository. There's a lot in those films that show without a question that the current Z Film has been fabricated and is an act of Treason! The lie and the Conspiracy are beyond belief, folks.. Poor Oswald, that look and what's going on in his head when he sees Ruby, who he knows is a killer, paying hard attention to him in the Press Conference.. I just had a thought that they may have purposely been showing Ruby to him at the DPD to send the message "Keep your mouth Shut"! And YES those Officers who were supposed to be protecting Oswald appear to be purposely looking away until AFTER HE GOT SHOT!! These people like to say others are sick but they are the lowest form of life as far as I am concerned.. I'm sharing this on my channel in the JFK Section! Great Job!!!
Oswald appears to glance up at Ruby just after he says “A policeman hit me.” Watch his eyes. The angle is consistent with his earlier look at Ruby.
That closing statement was spot on. Thank You, Mr.Meros.
Nobody in their right mind would have transferred a prisoner like Oswald at 10:00 AM in a near public setting....He could have been easily transferred at midnight with only police at the scene....The whole matter stinks to high heaven!
Also why were the police doing the transfer? The proper procedure is for the County Sheriff to be informed that a prisoner is to be transferred to the County Jail, then it is his duty to send his men up to Police Headquarters to collect the prisoner.
It always sseemed oswald was not brought out till ruby was ready and waiting. This is truly scary
Jack Ruby said in his final interview that he went down the ramp entering from main Street. Great video. This story is so multifaceted
Police officer Roy Vaughan was detailed to guard the car ramp entry to police headquarters with instructions not to let anyone in except police officers and reporters. The Dallas P.D official story is that Vaughan was distracted by a police car driving out via the ramp and Ruby took that opportunity to sneak past him to enter the building. However Vaughan has adamantly insisted that he kept his eyes directly at the ramp entrance at all times and no one could possibly have entered without his knowledge. Now I can understand him saying this at the time as he would have been concerned that to say otherwise might have affected his career and promotion prospects. But he carried on sticking to his story even after he had become a police chief and after he had retired which is a strong indication that it was the whole truth.
Thank You Tom! Do you know the name of the other officer holding Oswald opposite Leavelle,holding Oswald left arm??
This is an incredible video. What a damn cover up the government did to all of us.
And the media.
If you watch the original full video,there is a car horn blown just before Oswald came into view..always seemed weird to me a .Signal? ..Coincidence?
Oswald knew they were gonna wack him
laserlight007 Hmm .Maybe not .He joked with Leavelle minutes before he was shot that no one was going to shoot him .🤷♂️
This is a very interesting concept, that I have not heard or seen before. I have always thought of Leville to be a scoundrel, in the JFK assassination.
Ruby states "I'm the only person in the background". Does this imply more involvement by others?
Wow! Ruby always claimed he came down the ramp on Main St where the armored car that was to transfer Oswald was parked. Always wondered how Ruby got in when the Dallas police supposedly had all the entrances blocked. Very thought provoking video...
He was at every press conference, he was stalking 'Oswald', Ruby bought sandwiches to take in for the cops they all knew him..
And the size of the gun... Nobody saw (prior) .
The armoured car was parked on the Commerce Street Ramp.
Something just hit me, don't know why I haven't thought of this before. That is, how did they happen to have an ambulance at such short notice? It seemed to have been pulled in just seconds after the shooting. I was 18 at the time and was so focused on watching Oswald be brought down that I didn't notice that detail.
And people jumped in with him who?
Agree
It was WELL SET-UP, STAGED.
TOM You have done some top notch work ,about some top notch subjects ,yet I have always had a curiosity about the J.F.K murder and this presentation is top notch and I hope you are proud of this presentation, it certainly is different and gets to key points that have never quite been looked at in the minds -eye you show them in.We Thank You .
RUBY statement, "...I'm The only person in the background who knows the truth...."
that statement..................... ruby said we are going to see a new ( new world order) form of government emerging.
I would say the suit was a light grey not white. However it does stand out in the crowd on dark suits. Thankyou for the video I never realized the difference in suit colors.
EXTREMELY interesting thesis- WHO KNOWS how many of these so-called peripheral players were in on this nightmare as well.....
Thanks for the great video! Why did Oswald look straight at Ruby on two separate occasions - first in the press conference, and then as he was being led to the waiting car? Presumably they knew each other. How and what was the connection?
Yes that’s definitely what happened Ruby waited till he saw Lavelle with that hat move away from the window it was all planned because Ruby couldn’t have known the time Oswald would be moved
if they had wanted to protect him that would have been easy to do you would have cleared all those people out of the police station it was all staged choreographed right down to the second
Possibly, but I think the explanation is much simpler: They didn't want the news media complaining that they were somehow covering up something such as bruises from intense interrogation.
The ambulance was idling just out of view of the police building.😂😂😂
There were too many people in the area. Way too many police officers, also. All it would have taken was a few cops and a couple of reporters. I always thought it was strange that Mr. Leavelle wore that particular suit on that day but a case could be made that since he knew the transfer would be televised, he bought a new suit or already had the suit and it was his favorite.
Scott Dorsey Yes I agree! The whole point of transferring Oswald was suppose to be so that he'd be in a" more secure" place,then What were ALL those reporters doing there?? ALL of those people should Not have been there,while Oswald was being taken to the car,to take him to a more" secure" place within the jail system in Dallas.Jack Ruby had NO business being there at any time,while Lee Harvey Oswald was there in that jail-PERIOD!
If they wanted to protect him then don't announce when, where and what time.
Oswald recognizes Ruby in that room, I don't care what anyone says. When he hears Ruby's voice, he looks up at him and the look on Oswald's face is, "Oh Shit, this is not Good". check the 11:21 time line. There was a clock on the wall in the Department. It was not 11:21 am.
Oswald being brought before cameras to make a statement is the oddest part of the whole affair. Why would law enforcement have a defendant talk to the media. All pre-arranged? You bet ya
Really feel the mention of and details on the white suit Leavelle worn has merit. It makes a lot of sense.
And then wore a blue suit in '93 to normalize it during questioning about it . He changed from white to black to white suit again it says .
1960's JFK president's killer "Escapegoat", nicely planned & done so-no questions asked, "take it as 'we' give it"?!
They all Played their part , Oswald was never shown the script
OSWALD SHOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN CHARGED FOR FAILING TO PAY FOR A MOVIE TICKET, WHICH AINT A CAPITAL CRIME
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No he paid for the ticket!
Note: LHO is wearing all black; he never had that sweater on prior to the transfer. Why were there no blood stains on the floor, the gurney, the people around LHO or on LHO? Didn't anyone apply pressure on the wound?
I heard that LHO was hit in the liver. When pressure was applied to his chest to help him breathe it caused massive bleeding from his damaged liver.
Most telling part of the video is at 10:35, the look on Oswald's face when he's told that he IS being charged with the murder of the President. It's the moment he realizes that he's been setup for the assassination - and his whole demeanor just collapses...
Oswald seems abnormally calm for a person talking to reporters about being arrested for murder - let alone for murdering the President. Innocent or guilty, not one person in a hundred million could appear to be so calm, unless he had been medicated (I’m not suggesting that he had been). However, when he’s shown entering the sheriff’s office, he appears slightly agitated. Not sure why the difference in the two appearances.
I agree. There are certain methods to evade interrogation Oswald leaned those through spy training in the Army. Oswald appears well trained in those methods.
Oswald was set up long before 22nd November 1963.
"I'm Just A Patsy" was a phrase used by Oswald more than once that weekend. After being arrested at the Texas Theater, that was the ONLY thing he said while being transported to police HQ in police car. And he said it several times.
When has a person claim to be a patsy in history 🤔
Regarding the actual shooting scene, I noticed from the first famous photo, that Det. Levelle was clearly trying to distance himself from the shooter. Whether that it was simply fear and cowardice or trying to allow the shooter sufficient time to do his job, I cannot say.
I would also suggest that, being the closest man to escort Oswald, his suit colour could have made him easier to differentiate him from Oswald, and easier for the shooter to avoid him in the mad second of the event.
@@bobgillis1137It's also ironic that they made Oswald wear a black sweater. Oswald always wore white, except in the fake backyard photos where he is holding a rifle and commie magazines. I think they had Oswald wearing a black pullover in the backyard photos because black is the color of death? Right?
😲 Thanks YOU TUBE for disrupting the audio of yet another valuable video the contradicts your narrative... After 3 minutes into the video the audio completely drops
Think of it. In the days before computers they had the gun traced to Oswald within 24 hours. Nothing short of a psychic could have legitimately done that.
Look at this picture on the heading, I seen this on slow motion, this is a second before the shot , he is looking at Ruby through the crowd.
Great video !!!
The actual color of the suit was a very light tan or light beige.
I find it very odd that in the middle of November for Jim Lavelle to be wearing such a color.
Jim was not only cuffed to Oswald he was also to the right of him so Ruby could easily see him.
How would Ruby know that Oswald's transfer would almost be an hour late unless someone told him the news ?
Why did the transfer of Oswald from the city jail to the county needed to be televised ?
Why wasn't the armored truck properly measured to see if it could be taken down into the basement ?
Why did the police car that was brought in honking just second's before Oswald was shot ?
So many unanswered questions !!!
Lee Oswald was set up from day one, if I remember right from what I had read or seen in videos some time ago someone helped Lee get a job at School Book Depository, as for sending for a rifle he may have or even if he didn't someone could have used Lee's name to show he sent for the rifle so all this could be used against him while real killers got away. Seemed anyone with connection or witnesses to what somebody saw in Dallas above the grassy knoll behind the picket fence their story may have been fabricated or killed such as Lee Bowers which he was killed on a highway when his car left the highway which is suspicious to me. That's how I see it even if nobody agrees.
Corrupt, incompetent, naive, vain and stupid.. ladies and gentlemen.. I give you.. the Dallas PD. No right to a lawyer, total joke with the line-ups.. announce to the public when they're moving the prisoner.. realise at the last minute that the vehicle is too tall to pull up to the door so they have to walk out to it instead.. stop questioning the prisoner because the DA says they've got their man (after no investigation).. seemingly let anyone walk around their Police Station (including that guy who looks like gestapo with the glasses and long coat wtf).. they were giving in to the media demands when they should have been doing their jobs.. the fact that ANY prisoner was shot on the premises while under their guard is appalling. Absolute joke, the lot of 'em
Excerpt from Why the CIA Assigned Ruth Paine to the Oswalds: Ruth Paine did not own a light green Nash Rambler. She owned a light Blue Chevy station wagon. The car that Craig thought he saw [the] Oswald [double] get into was a Rambler driven by Lawrence Howard, an anti Castro Cuban with out of state plates.
James Richards
from The Gold Coast, Australia
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Posted December 13, 2009
Kathy,
The whole Lee and Harvey thing I have yet to make my mind up about but I do believe Lee Oswald was impersonated several times leading up to the assassination, and then again on the day itself.
The 1959 Rambler is also a curious issue given the several prominent folk who owned one including George Wing, Rip Robertson, Howard Davis and a member of the Dallas chapter of Alpha 66. It must also be considered that this was a common vehicle for the day.
I also think that particular Jim Murray photograph is a very important one. Somewhat of a story being told with lots of detail. Many years ago, I created these comparisons with people present in that image. I post them here more as a curiosity than anything else.
Cheers,
James
I'm interested in learning where the information of the whole white suit shooting set up and questioning of Oswald interruption was learned
Good observation! I think it was a signal that Oswald had been briefed (and rehearsed?) and the "shooter" had the go-ahead to fire the blank round at Oswald so they could then get him out of there to parts unknown. I don't think it was Ruby at all...you never really see his face.
This was a real media circus and no transcript or recording of the hours of interrogation of Oswald..Great videos
I never knew the western union was right next to the building. It makes sense what he's saying.
That is an interesting theory. His suit did seem incongruous in the crowd. Just ANOTHER fascinating detail in this aggravating case
It's been established also that strip club owner/ mafia member Jack Ruby had a relationship with the Dallas PD so it's not hard to conclude the assassination of Oswald was deliberately made easy by the cops
Who’s the guy in the dark trench coat and hat? Walks in with a younger man and stands at a wall.
Half a century later no interrogations notes of Oswald available.Why?
How convenient for the Dallas PD.
If it was Oswald that killed
officer JD Tippit I feel that he was there to kill Oswald and finish the conspiracy. Oswald realized he was going to die and killed him first . At this time the conspirators regrouped and drew straws to see who would Oswald and Jack Ruby drew the short straw . If you watch THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY SERIES ( I think it is an 8 part series ) you will see the interview with Oswalds mistress , she seems like she has the most believable story . I think she is interviewed in part 8 .
That series Part 3 has two of the "star" witnesses of the Tippit shooting, Markham and Callaway. They gave different descriptions a man leaving the scene. Different height and weight, different clothing and most importantly different escape paths. How can that be? Yet they are referenced as witnesses who identified Oswald.
Key words from reporters after Ruby shoots Oswald are - UNREAL and UNBELIEVABLE !!
Isn't it so that the rifle they claimed that they found in the library actually is a single shot weapon and that it therefore would not even be possible to fire several shots with it in quick succession as actually happened, be cause you would have to load it each time before you could shoot it again?
I think it a magazine rife but a cheap one, military surplus. Also I have hear and read that the shots were not hard at all from about 80 yards. Even Joe Rogan sain he could have made that kill as he is an avid hunter and the gun had a scope. Why didn't Oswalt shot when the car was facing him and in the hairpin turn slowing down, because they had other and better marksmen in different positions.
I don't think Ruby was ever transferred from the Dallas police jail to County jail all during his trial and appeals.
Yes he was, he was transferred a couple of days after the shooting, he remained in Dallas County Jail (which is the red brick building on Dealey Plaza) and remained there for the next three years until he was discovered to have cancer.
Just a patsy,he was involved,but not a shooter