GTA San Andreas Ps2 vs Definitive Edition GAMEPLAY COMPARISON | Ultimate In-Dept Analysis

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  • @folev_333
    @folev_333  Месяц назад +3

    Which game do you prefer, and why?
    For Graphics Comparison watch the following video - ruclips.net/video/byc2kQtbC3I/видео.html
    GTA Vice City PS2 vs DE - ruclips.net/video/_nfQjSfFrm4/видео.html
    GTA 3 Ps2 vs DE - SOON!

    • @s4mmy3
      @s4mmy3 Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 PS2 version of GTA SA!

  • @balmundsm
    @balmundsm Месяц назад +45

    Controls are so bad because the game was ported from the mobile version. In that version changing the controls made sense because it's, well, a mobile game. But they also ported controls to the pc version, and although original pc port was downgraded from the ps2 version, it was further downgraded to the mobile, and then ported again back to the pc. I still get mad to this day when thinking about this.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +5

      Yes, exactly. It is a mobile game ported to pc, its awful

    • @solidparas1925
      @solidparas1925 Месяц назад +1

      Actually it’s not the games fault it’s the RUclipsrs he choose at the options to sprint by tapping the button instead of holding it this option was added to make the gameplay stimulus to IV/V where you not running as fast as when your tapping the button you can change this option at the settings

    • @Yngdady
      @Yngdady Месяц назад +1

      What's worse is the mobile controls are stacked on top of pc controls which are stacked on top of the original ps2 controls

    • @Nafiur13
      @Nafiur13 Месяц назад +1

      as a gta sa mobile player, I can confirm there had been so many big changes that made that game worse looking.

    • @trapez77
      @trapez77 Месяц назад

      Tell us something we don’t know

  • @ChloeLovelocks
    @ChloeLovelocks Месяц назад +19

    San Andreas certainly still needs a lot of work before we can call it "Definitive" but the last update was certainly a huge step

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +3

      Yes, at least the lighting is now better and doesn't look like a cheap mobile game

  • @GrumpyCat97
    @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад +3

    18:54 they should have added feature from GTA VCS where you can buy back all lost weapons, which make sense

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      @@GrumpyCat97 yes I think only VCS have this

  • @AnthonCast
    @AnthonCast Месяц назад +6

    Finally someone points out the issue of sprinting in The Definitive Edition!

    • @chrislynl.9395
      @chrislynl.9395 Месяц назад

      I noticed it when trying to do the valet missions.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Yes, it is annoying issue, as well as the camera Y axis on PC

    • @AnthonCast
      @AnthonCast Месяц назад +1

      @ If you ever do a video on GTA3, oh please, point it out too because is worse! Claude sprints not only slower by holding the button, but his sprint duration before paramedic mission is the worst!

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @ I'm currently working on tbe GTA 3 video, now I'm trying to run Gta 3 on my ps2 and when I succeed I will start recording and editing the video

  • @iceage9347
    @iceage9347 Месяц назад +4

    Ps2 version of this game is the GOAT. They should add L1 as the secondary fire for the classic controls in the definitive edition.

  • @Nafiur13
    @Nafiur13 Месяц назад +4

    10:30 crazy how the crappy mobile port even has lock aim where you can see the health of your opponent

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Does it really? I didn't noticed that when I played on mobile

  • @GrumpyCat97
    @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

    24:15 PS2/PC has checkpoint too, but only in final mission, for example when you fail to chase Tenpenny, the game will start at the chase when re-launch the mission

  • @GrumpyCat97
    @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

    19:13 the DE based on mobile port which has compressed audio

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Yes, which is very annoying

  • @martinlagos9609
    @martinlagos9609 Месяц назад +3

    00:59 when you run in a dream

  • @iitsmythxc
    @iitsmythxc Месяц назад +1

    As someone who has never played the original PS2 version, I think that overall the DE is a solid and fun experience. It may not be perfect, thats for damn sure, but its fun.
    My biggest gripe with the DE (besides the graphics) has always been the aircrafts. The controls always felt extremely wonky to me, especially with how solid the flight controls are in GTA 4, 5 and Online. And now seeing the PS2 gameplay, it seems like the original SA had controls very similar to what we have now. Its a shame GSG butchered them so bad in the DE.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@iitsmythxc Yes, San Andreas had the greatest controls on Ps2 and old PC port. DE ruined all controls aspects

  • @s4mmy3
    @s4mmy3 Месяц назад +3

    The video turned out amazing! GTA San Andreas was designed and developed with the PS2 in mind. I believe there could have been more features for the console, as I saw a "Store" mode similar to the PS3 or even an online mode within the PS2 for GTA San Andreas (based on what I've seen online, including "leaked" screenshots).
    Although the hardware struggles with certain aspects, the game is incredible and perfect. I wouldn't ask Rockstar for anything more except to create a San Andreas 2 or simply a GTA San Andreas with the removed content (dialogues, missions, items, weapons, and so on). I believe the removed content could make for an amazing and grand game.
    Your channel is great! I love watching comparisons, but what truly stands out is the fact that the PS2 version of GTA San Andreas manages to be superior in some aspects, though the remaster has its own strengths.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@s4mmy3 Yep, I agree with what you say. And btw you are right, GTA 3 also had a beta multiplayer and some scripts can still be found in the PC version files. I'm not sure about San Andreas but as far as I remember Rockstar initially planed the game to be with 3 protagonists exactly like gta 5. Ceaser, Sweet and CJ but Ps2 couldn't handle it so it was scrapped. And about the definitive edition, I think it's a shame for Rockstar to have such a product, it has a great potential but needs a loot of work

    • @s4mmy3
      @s4mmy3 Месяц назад

      @@folev_333
      Yeah, that's it, my friend! After all, there are things that were removed that would be incredible today, even with powerful hardware like the PS3, PS4, or even PCs at the time they were released. (And also, for the '10-year anniversary,' they could at least launch some things to celebrate).
      And it was because of piracy that a few Brazilians got to know this masterpiece called San Andreas!
      Here in Brazil, unfortunately, the PS2 only arrived almost 10 years later, around 2009. Only people with money to import it from abroad (USA, Europe, China, etc.) had the console.
      Well, today, it’s more about the 'PS5 or Nintendo consoles,' for example. The taxation in Brazil under the president is really tough!

  • @Tortillas_
    @Tortillas_ Месяц назад +2

    18:30 In the original version also you have to pay for medical bills, this doesn't exists in the "definitive edition".
    21:30 Also in the original version there is a hierarchy when scrolling weapons which goes from the lightest weapon (katana, micro smg, etc...) to the heaviest weapon (ak47, minigun, etc...), this is broken and messed up in the "definitive edition".
    And let's not forget that in the original version there is a replay system which doesn't exist in the "definitive edition". Great video btw 👍👍
    --
    28:00 This happened because you activated the cheat to lock the time, it's a bug present in the PC version, too...

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@Tortillas_ Yes I forgot to show that in the video. I'm mad about the broken weapon hierarchy, and also the scroll is broken and it works like a button which means you dont scroll through your weapons but you move the scroll once at a time to change weapons

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@Tortillas_ about the 28:00 no, I didn't activate any cheats then. Notice how buildings can't load properly, sometimes it glitches like this

    • @Tortillas_
      @Tortillas_ Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 maybe you did it accidentally because the time was moving...

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@Tortillas_ ohh, yes you are right, I didn't even noticed that 😂 looks like I used the cheat to set the time to 21:00. So, yes the glitch might be caused by the cheat, it's possible

  • @madzmedia2
    @madzmedia2 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for this! I also feel like the DE SA car handling is really different. I couldn't find anything online about this. The weird thing is VC and 3 DE are exactly the same as the originals but SA is different. Tbf I quite like the DE handling though. The cars feel heavier.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      Yep, also cars are faster in DE but the only problem for me is that they tend to slip of more easily. But maybe its just me

    • @madzmedia2
      @madzmedia2 Месяц назад +1

      @folev_333 yeah they don't turn as much and slide easier but they're faster. I genuinely like it though. Feels like they improved it. It's just so weird how no ones noticed and they didn't mention it.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@madzmedia2 also nobody seems to noticed that cars are literally bigger in DE which can be the reason why they are faster. One guy pointed out that the original San Andreas had a positions on the map where cars were programed to be slower and he turned out to be right. On some parts of the map like The Strip in LV the air resistance is set higher than the rest of the map which means cars go slower there and maybe that feature is missing from DE, making cars go to their default fast top speed everywhere

  • @GrumpyCat97
    @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

    13:15 these extra objects also in og xbox

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@GrumpyCat97 really? I didn't know that

  • @kingdomross8974
    @kingdomross8974 Месяц назад +3

    I did not know you can do that with the cement truck. San andreas just keep on surprising me.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      I just randomly discovered it too. I knew about it years ago but I forgot about it because I rarely played with the cement truck, and now I just randomly rediscovered it

    • @kingdomross8974
      @kingdomross8974 Месяц назад +1

      @folev_333 I knew about all other vehicles, but man, Gta San Andreas was way ahead of its time. I hope Gta 6 will surpass Gta San Andreas.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@kingdomross8974 Yes me too, I really hope that GTA 6 will push the current limits like San Andreas did years ago

  • @CropDudia480p
    @CropDudia480p Месяц назад +1

    you have to disable "tap to sprint" in the menu in DE. that's why he's running slow.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@CropDudia480p I think there is no such option on the PC version when using a controller. At least I didn't see it in the settings. But even if there is this option, CJ is still running incorrectly because on ps2 when you hold the button, you sprint normally and when you tap you sprint even faster. On DE the way CJ sprints when tapping is the way CJ sprints normally on Ps2 if you understand

    • @CropDudia480p
      @CropDudia480p Месяц назад +3

      @@folev_333 yeah im aware, i still dont know what happened to the "super sprint" when you tap on the original versions. very strange.

  • @SarahWestCrazyTaxiQueen
    @SarahWestCrazyTaxiQueen Месяц назад

    The definitive edition is a nice revision of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. The technology has been a 17 year gap between the original and the Definitive Edition.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Yet, the Ps2 version is the superior in gameplay aspect. It's literally sad

  • @attilaszamosfalvi5749
    @attilaszamosfalvi5749 Месяц назад

    PS2 version is still the closest to perfect. I never had an actual PS2, so I grew up on PC games, but now I'm (re)playing plenty of PS2 titles via emulator, and I'm blown away how good they are. Despite its obvoius weaknesses (like resolution and draw distance) most games of their time are the best experience on the PS2. GTA SA is one of the good examples of PS2 version being the best one in terms of atmosphere, controls and the overall feel of playing through the game.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@attilaszamosfalvi5749 Yes I completely agree. That's because games then were pushing the limits of the ps2, developers and companies gave their best while now it's not like that for most of the time

    • @GrumpyCat97
      @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

      try Godhand, Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks, Urban Reign, Drakan The Ancients Gates. it's one of the best ps2 titles

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@GrumpyCat97 Good idea, I think I have some of the mortal kombat games and I might also look in to the others that you recommended

  • @hilo2498
    @hilo2498 Месяц назад +1

    6:21 I think because 60fps in DE and 30fps in ps2

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      @@hilo2498 I tried on 30 its still the same. The ps2 version had zones with limited top speed of cars and cars were literally smaller in size compared to the map. That's the reason I think

  • @CropDudia480p
    @CropDudia480p Месяц назад +1

    very good indepth video

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@CropDudia480p Thank you! I tried my best

  • @GrumpyCat97
    @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

    in DE, have you seen fire from top view? they're just animated cardboard

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@GrumpyCat97 no wonder. I personally like the old fire more

  • @FemboyTrain
    @FemboyTrain Месяц назад

    19:00 I still lose all my weapons when I die in DE

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      That's weird because I still have them

    • @FemboyTrain
      @FemboyTrain Месяц назад +1

      @@folev_333 I guess you have used a 100% save because look at your money :P

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @ yes I did, but I also have a save in tbe beginning and when I die I still respawn with my weapons which is inreresting.it bight be a glitch that old savefiles keep your weapons but new savefiles dont

    • @FemboyTrain
      @FemboyTrain Месяц назад +1

      @@folev_333 Interesting

  • @nitrosodium
    @nitrosodium Месяц назад

    6:06 idk if you know, but in SA some streets have their own speed limits. For example, on The Strip in LV you can't go faster than a certain speed, even if your car/bike is faster. Cars in DE just reach that top speed fsster than cars in OG afaik
    5:42 comes from the 2013 mobile versions, to make steering less heavy for who plays on phones

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@nitrosodium really? I didn't know about these limits?? Idk, it seems possible but cars really accelerate faster in DE. And about the steering yes, the DE on pc is basically reworked mobile port which is awful

    • @nitrosodium
      @nitrosodium Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 Search up the Garver Bridge - in the mission Highjack with Cesar you reach the truck faster by driving on the bridge sidewalk than on the street. Becsuse the sidewalk has no limit (except the top speed of your vehicle). Made probably to render zones easier on a PS2, it's on PC too.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@nitrosodium I quickly looked it up and you are right indeed. I read that there are many zones on the map like The Strip and Garver Bridge where cars are always slower, because the developers increased the Air Resistance in these places, which affects cars speed, making them slower probably to optimize rendering. I never knew that!
      So, maybe this thing is not present in DE and cars just have the same top speed everywhere which explains why they are faster in the place I tested it

    • @nitrosodium
      @nitrosodium Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 i don't know if these are present in DE, i'd try the "Highjack" sidewalk and see if i get to the truck faster or not. If these aren't removed, acceleration is simply increaeed in DE meaning you REACH top speed fsster. Which is possible since it runs at higher frames.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @nitrosodium yes, try it and tell me, because I started to wonder too! Btw I noticed that the latest DE patch fixed most of the framerate issues which is very interesting

  • @bristleback3614
    @bristleback3614 Месяц назад +1

    Proof that increasing fps on old game doesn't make it better

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      True. It needs work, not just lazy porting

  • @ExistentiallyCryin
    @ExistentiallyCryin Месяц назад

    In DE when you die you still lose all your weapons, I'm playing through the game for the first time right now as I picked it up on sale.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Looks like it is something to do with old savefiles because I have an old savefile in the beginning and when I die I still respawn with my weapons

  • @PicolloRun
    @PicolloRun Месяц назад +3

    planes and heli are way harder to control on DE

    • @Nafiur13
      @Nafiur13 Месяц назад +1

      true, same for mobile.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      And glitchy

  • @Toguro45
    @Toguro45 Месяц назад +4

    If SA DE didn't have those slow and mobile like controls it would easily win tbh. But man the game feels too slow, stealing a car is slow and you can't do the "hold space" trick to kill the driver and get inside car faster while also leaving the door open, a great speedrun strat that makes the game flow so smooth.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +3

      @@Toguro45 exactly. My biggest problem is the controls, not the other things. For me, the most important thing is the gameplay, graphics and other things come after that and I'm happy that there are a lot of people like us who are not that shallow

  • @theLonelyLemnn
    @theLonelyLemnn Месяц назад +1

    Personally think you should do comparison of the PS2 version using PCSX2 or straight up using the PC ports.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Why pcsx2?

    • @somedumbchannel6838
      @somedumbchannel6838 Месяц назад +1

      @@folev_333he can’t stand the resolution I assume. There is no other plausible reason

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      @@somedumbchannel6838 well, me neither, but the video is about the original ps2 vs de, not about modded Ps2 vs modded DE, so I will always use my Ps2 to record gameplay in these scenarios. I might use PCSX2 for funny videos or other things but not for comparisons, because here is important to see the original games in their original state, in order to be a fair comparison

    • @victorfadel06
      @victorfadel06 Месяц назад

      ​@@folev_333you did the right thing using the original Ps2. The old Pc port has it's own share of issues.

  • @HiThere619
    @HiThere619 28 дней назад +3

    The music is extremely annoying

  • @TheJuniorqmpb
    @TheJuniorqmpb Месяц назад

    Can I have full control on Hydra?

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      You can't for now, sadly. I'm mad too

  • @NotBorno
    @NotBorno Месяц назад

    idk which version of sa de you're playing but at least om the latest version, the cycle tap to go faster and the lose all weapons are fixed. I'm not defending de but i think these were fixed in the latest versions. also the controls are better optimized for controller than mkb. i mostly play with an xbox controller so i can see the health indication as well. i guess playing with a mkb is really a downgrade. didn't really check tbh

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@NotBorno Hi, I'm using the latest version of DE in this video, I recorded the footage a few days ago. For Ps2 I use the first PAL version of the game

  • @We1bert
    @We1bert Месяц назад +2

    PS2 tge BEST version🎉🎉💯

  • @theoverwhelmer
    @theoverwhelmer Месяц назад

    For whatever reason in the newest update they decided to make cars and bikes turn like crap everything feels heavily understeerish

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, something is changed as you can see comparing with the ps2 version

  • @Dave_Albright
    @Dave_Albright Месяц назад +1

    PS2 has more parked cars. PC removed alot of parked cars.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      On DE also they removed the suicidal photographer

    • @aaronsmith3484
      @aaronsmith3484 28 дней назад

      Yeah I noticed this too, also there’s no paramedics.

  • @thesoldier8290
    @thesoldier8290 Месяц назад

    14:51 LMAOOO

  • @marzeilliyaaj8816
    @marzeilliyaaj8816 28 дней назад

    Actually you can pedal a bicycle slowly, just use a controller

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  28 дней назад +1

      @@marzeilliyaaj8816 but this is PC edition, I use keyboard and mouse

  • @nitrosodium
    @nitrosodium Месяц назад

    10:39 i REALLY HATE this. Even worse than gta 5 where peds die from one mouse click. Sucks out all the fun of melee combat.

  • @mada_faka
    @mada_faka Месяц назад

    PS2 ALWAYS BEST CONSOLE IN HUMAN HISTORY

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      Yep, the best games came out in this era

  • @aldilasagaprabu5318
    @aldilasagaprabu5318 Месяц назад

    7:28 Wow, personally i never face an issue like that. I playing GTA SA DE on iOS and CJ easily can jump or exit from moving vehicles without any issues at all.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +2

      Try holding the button when driving slowly

  • @Lordicus21
    @Lordicus21 Месяц назад +1

    Lowride dance is ruined actually.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@Lordicus21 I like it now better, because the old one was too hard and buggy

    • @Lordicus21
      @Lordicus21 Месяц назад

      @@folev_333They could have reduced the difficulty, but what they did now is disrespectful to our intellect. It's so easy that it's almost tedious.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @ yes,im going to agdee here with you. But not just the lowrider dance, the whole game controls are dumbed down

    • @Lordicus21
      @Lordicus21 Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 Great video btw, we need more people showing how not so "definitive" these versions are

  • @abdulrahmanal-ashmori3928
    @abdulrahmanal-ashmori3928 Месяц назад

    GTA SA DE is GTA SA with Mods

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@abdulrahmanal-ashmori3928 Might be a good idea

  • @МихаилНовохоров
    @МихаилНовохоров Месяц назад +3

    def still sucks 🤮

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      @@МихаилНовохоров yes

  • @duca31
    @duca31 Месяц назад +2

    Definitive edition is pure crap, even they fixed some things. PS2 version is the best, just needs a higher resolution and its perfect.

    • @lordemon4735
      @lordemon4735 Месяц назад +3

      The PS4 version is just the classic game with higher res

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад +1

      I agree

  • @patrikkrywult
    @patrikkrywult Месяц назад

    Stop with this old crap :D San Andreas is good but GTA 4 is miles ahead. San andreas only has value today because of nostalgia.

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @@patrikkrywult are you sure you are commenting under the right video? This video is not about GTA 4

    • @patrikkrywult
      @patrikkrywult Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 I'm reacting because many here are taking SA to the skies. It's an old game already outdone by many and the only thing here is nostalgia. And it's pointless to buy it...

    • @GrumpyCat97
      @GrumpyCat97 Месяц назад

      @@patrikkrywult it's because SA is an legendary game, and beats other GTA games in terms of content. GTA5 is pointless to buy

    • @folev_333
      @folev_333  Месяц назад

      @patrikkrywult I don't think so. In GTA 4 & 5 Can you drive trucks with trailers and do truck missions? Can you train your muscles by lifting weights? Can you run in the gym? Can you be fat, mascular or skinny? Can you learn different martial arts? Can you play around in 3 big cities and countryside from forest to desert? Can you go to driving, boat, motorbike and aircraft schools? Can you run territory wars and recruit gangs to have fun? Can you use nitro on cars? Can you play with cranes and do quarry missions where you work there? Can you drive the train and do freight missions? Can you do different tournament competitions in different stadiums? Can you do lowrider dancing duels? Is there a fully functioning hunger system with multiple restaurants and multiple menus? Can you buy many savehouses? Are there different bicycle challenges? I don't think you can do any of these things and many others neither in GTA 4 nor 5. That's why people still play san andreas because IT IS THE GAME. I can do much things and it is dynamic. My favorite game is GTA 4 because of its aura and story, but hands down gta san andreas is the most advanced and gameplay wise and fun wise it's my favorite.

    • @patrikkrywult
      @patrikkrywult Месяц назад

      @@folev_333 As a gangster simulation, it's probably fine. But in terms of story graphics physics shooting controls, it's already surpassed in everything. For example, the story in GTA 4 is the best in all of GTA 4.