Huge step in the right direction! Not sure how I feel about the front wing in the road course package but miles better than the last one. Great job Indy.
Sweet! just did a very unscientific and unofficial side by side comparison of this versus the helmet cam from earlier in the season. Seems like almost all of the time lost in the corners is made up on the straights. I'm excited to see how the races go with these new bodykits!
Indycar desperately needs better promotion. I'm sure fans would love to come to the track to see these new cars undergoing testing and learning more about the cars and drivers in person.
Dr. Bananable Lector its 10 x better than nascar but does not have the popularity of nascar . I don't know why people think nascar is better than this.
jerryl davis because NASCAR managed to sell its drivers personalities to the masses and convinced sponsors to use those drivers as promotional tools. It took a lot of investment, and IndyCar does not want to try that kind of investment
Wings are very much part of F1's past, as ground effect is American open wheel racing's past. But F1 should very much cut back on the current aerodynamics. If I ran F1, wings would not consist of more than two elements and cars would feature spec monocoques and crash structures (noses!), both to limit costs, aid competitive and close racing, and create an attractive looking field of cars.
if these cars are successful in bringing more close racing, i can see F1 going in this direction, especially with Ross Brawn being in charge of the technical aspects of F1, he has wanted F1 to simplify aero for a while now. they absolutely need the cars to be able to follow closer if they want to put on a show, and really, ground effect is the only way to do that.
Indycar have had to go spec on the parts so as to save money! They've opened up various parts, one at a time because they can afford it, not everything all at once.
But in the straits it moves like it's using push to pass, also i'm pretty sure that different skilled drivers will take these corners at noticeably different speeds. Can't wait to see how these new aero-kits bring out the best in drivers next season.
Trust me tho--MUCH FASTER on the straightaways!! Waaaaay less drag--Oriol and Juan Pablo were saying 5, 6 mph more at Mid-Ohio--that would get you 8-10 mph at Elkhart.......not to mention Spencer has very few laps in the new simpler car. Trust me--Road and Street Course racing in 2018?!?! Will be Much better than the last 2-3 years....draft and pass...and there's really not been that bad of racing--just not GREAT. I've been following all Formula car racing since the mid-1980's, and now, gaining more and more strength after re-unification, This just might be it.........
This video explains perfectly what 's the problem in current sims (F1 series, Project Cars etc.) "looking forward" cams. When the camera looks into the corner, it always reacts to the movement of the steering wheel, so it only starts to turn when you already started to turn the wheel and stops turning after the wheel returned to its center position. Therefor the cam starts to turn toward the apex when the turning begins and still looks at it in the apex. In this video it is clear that a real driver looks at the apex of the corner BEFORE he turns the wheel and looks straight and checks the exit of the corner when he's at the apex. Totally different! A real driver always looks AHEAD while the games' cam is always late at looking where it should be.
Therius Oktavario From what I’m hearing, the new dashes will be tested next month or around there. They’re sticking with these for now, though so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the new dashes come along in the new season. 😊
For most teams, they're gonna adopt Cosworth's LCD Screen Wheel which is probably cheaper and easier to program than the one we see on Pigot's visor cam. The Cosworth Steering was intended to be used widely last season but only a handful of driver actually used it (forgot who). There will be some teams however that are gonna retain the old steering wheel for the upcoming season as a cost-saving method.
I'd fly to Monaco to see these race there, imagine how cool it'd be to see these over there. F1 cars are far to big while these are small enough for side by side racing throughout the course.
Dr. Bananable Lector F1 cars are smaller and lighter than indycars. Indycars are still amazing though. They also are more physically demanding than an f1 car
easleyrider, The Dallara DW12 dimensions are as follows, Wheelbase 3,073.4 mm (121 in) Width 2,011 mm (79 in) Weight 1,610 lb (730 kg) 2017 F1 cars- Wheelbase 3,545mm-3760mm (139.5 - 148 in) Width 2,000 mm (78.7 in) Weight 1,548 lb (702 kg) minimum So yes Indycars a a bit wider and heavier but F1 cars are a lot longer. Plus next years Indycars are cutting down on overall length and weight which will makes them even smaller and lighter.
I went to Monaco last year just a couple of weeks after the race while they still had many of the barriers and bleachers up. I ran the course a couple of times and drove it as well, and many of those streets are even more narrow than they appear on TV, so I'm not sure about the racing. That said, Monaco is just a stunning place to see in person, and if the IndyCars ever had a chance to race there I would be on that same flight with you.
I could watch entire races in this POV, no commentators + if you could put better mics so we could hear more of the engine and less of the wind.
Alan Kućar it’d be cool if they all had the camera too and you could skip around and pick who you ride with.
All cars will have helmet cams in 2018, also all cars will have a new nose and tail cam on them :)
Alan Kućar its a turbo engine that might explain the lack of sound
Marfran Dema they’re plenty loud in person. It’s more so an issue of positioning the mic somewhere with less wind noise.
Just put the mic by the exhaust pipe and take camera audio off that
Thanks for posting the video. Cool to see Pigot getting some seat time in the new car. Hope you'll keep posting videos throughout the offseason.
Huge step in the right direction! Not sure how I feel about the front wing in the road course package but miles better than the last one. Great job Indy.
This is beconing me even stronger than F1. I'll be watching Indy in 2018. For sure.
fantástic job Indy
Sweet! just did a very unscientific and unofficial side by side comparison of this versus the helmet cam from earlier in the season. Seems like almost all of the time lost in the corners is made up on the straights. I'm excited to see how the races go with these new bodykits!
Is the wind that loud that you can't hear where the car is revving at,or is that just the camera?
Microphones are bad at picking up wind noise. Drivers hear the wind, but also the engine.
A vibração é muito parecida com do Rfactor
I still think you guys can fix the sound. Like plugging a external mic then sync with the video
They've gone for the actual sound, rather than computer game sound. Wind noise is the actual sound.
look in the mirrors and you will see the back end.
That's how you know that they placed the camera right this time :)
love your channel man
Road America looks so beautiful in the fall!
Indycar desperately needs better promotion. I'm sure fans would love to come to the track to see these new cars undergoing testing and learning more about the cars and drivers in person.
Dr. Bananable Lector its 10 x better than nascar but does not have the popularity of nascar . I don't know why people think nascar is better than this.
Dr. Bananable Lector online content is good, maybe better than F1. Sadly, indy just doesn't have the appeal or visibility that NASCAR does
jerryl davis because NASCAR managed to sell its drivers personalities to the masses and convinced sponsors to use those drivers as promotional tools. It took a lot of investment, and IndyCar does not want to try that kind of investment
its a really underrated series
Sweet! Cannot wait for the 2018 Season! Less dirty air, more racing! Awesome! And better looking cars.
Their racing seasons are so short ;_; Please, more venues, Indycar!
ceeam Well, actually, their venue is fine. :) But I do wish the season's don't end at Sonoma.
Its nice to have a car with actual sidepods again
Not a fan of the nose, but as an avid supported of underbody aerodynamics and motorsport's glory history, a step in the right direction!
Wings are very much part of F1's past, as ground effect is American open wheel racing's past.
But F1 should very much cut back on the current aerodynamics. If I ran F1, wings would not consist of more than two elements and cars would feature spec monocoques and crash structures (noses!), both to limit costs, aid competitive and close racing, and create an attractive looking field of cars.
I know man, I don't like that front wing either.
if these cars are successful in bringing more close racing, i can see F1 going in this direction, especially with Ross Brawn being in charge of the technical aspects of F1, he has wanted F1 to simplify aero for a while now. they absolutely need the cars to be able to follow closer if they want to put on a show, and really, ground effect is the only way to do that.
X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Remember that ground effect was first discovered in F1. No reason for it not to return.
I love that we can actually see the side pods now.
Dr. Bananable Lector feels more like the old times right? Next season will be great to watch
I thought the 2018 upgrade included a new wheel with more modern dash? Has that been dropped or was it just not used in this particular case?
proesterchen Probably slated testing at a later date.
Think they're testing the dashes next month.
It took while because they are very expensive to manufacture. And the "old" ones are still functional
Old steering wheel?
Dose not have 2018 Cosworth data acquisition unit (dash)
Driving Road America in the Fall, man what a privilege
Indycar is better than f1 im subscribe to the indycar channel
2012-2014 were legendary. Last couple of years slightly less so, more like F1 style racing. Hopefully the new car will deliver again.
Those are some nice straightway speeds.
Might be watching Indycar more because there’s no stupid F1 halo
What a great onboard view...could watch that all day! Spectacular Love it! quick reaction at 2:45 Good job!
Not a Spencer fan, but he proves he can go out there with the big guys.
Indycar have had to go spec on the parts so as to save money! They've opened up various parts, one at a time because they can afford it, not everything all at once.
Awesome video!! Keep em coming!! Thumbs UP
Is it just or does the car become quieter when it goes faster?
Oh look no halo
MOAR!
Great view!
Looks like about a 1:47 first lap.
A purfect way too do a fall drive over cast skies cooler weather changing trees the best time of year!🏁🏎😎
I haven't lived in Wisconsin for five years, but as soon as I opened the video I got nostalgic. Fall in California sucks.
Road america is beautiful, Nordschleife is Awesome! ;)
i honestly cannot wait for next year. Everyone has a chance of winning which is why I love the sport. So much uncertainty
looks fairly easy to drive and enjoyable, very grippy
No Chance vs a @2018 F1 Car
I'll happily sacrifice absolute pace for some decent racing with overtaking.
This makes me want to fire up iRacing!
BWOAH!
Visibly slower in the corners than the aero kits.
Good!
But in the straits it moves like it's using push to pass, also i'm pretty sure that different skilled drivers will take these corners at noticeably different speeds. Can't wait to see how these new aero-kits bring out the best in drivers next season.
Trust me tho--MUCH FASTER on the straightaways!! Waaaaay less drag--Oriol and Juan Pablo were saying 5, 6 mph more at Mid-Ohio--that would get you 8-10 mph at Elkhart.......not to mention Spencer has very few laps in the new simpler car. Trust me--Road and Street Course racing in 2018?!?! Will be Much better than the last 2-3 years....draft and pass...and there's really not been that bad of racing--just not GREAT. I've been following all Formula car racing since the mid-1980's, and now, gaining more and more strength after re-unification, This just might be it.........
That's a given. Slower sustained cornering speeds, but the exits seem to have improved.
You still have the most punchable face. ;)
This video explains perfectly what 's the problem in current sims (F1 series, Project Cars etc.) "looking forward" cams. When the camera looks into the corner, it always reacts to the movement of the steering wheel, so it only starts to turn when you already started to turn the wheel and stops turning after the wheel returned to its center position. Therefor the cam starts to turn toward the apex when the turning begins and still looks at it in the apex.
In this video it is clear that a real driver looks at the apex of the corner BEFORE he turns the wheel and looks straight and checks the exit of the corner when he's at the apex. Totally different! A real driver always looks AHEAD while the games' cam is always late at looking where it should be.
KMerse1 A well-made point regarding a very fundamental technical aspect of racing.
You can look at the apex yourself. I do it all the time.
VR headset. Problem solved.
Why still old steering dash?
Therius Oktavario From what I’m hearing, the new dashes will be tested next month or around there. They’re sticking with these for now, though so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the new dashes come along in the new season. 😊
the same old steering wheel
The new steering wheels aren't due for testing yet.
What's gonna be new about the newer steering wheels? I read about it before but can't remember
For most teams, they're gonna adopt Cosworth's LCD Screen Wheel which is probably cheaper and easier to program than the one we see on Pigot's visor cam.
The Cosworth Steering was intended to be used widely last season but only a handful of driver actually used it (forgot who).
There will be some teams however that are gonna retain the old steering wheel for the upcoming season as a cost-saving method.
The engine sounds like the 2015 F1 Ferrari one. 🤔
I'd fly to Monaco to see these race there, imagine how cool it'd be to see these over there. F1 cars are far to big while these are small enough for side by side racing throughout the course.
Dr. Bananable Lector F1 cars are smaller and lighter than indycars. Indycars are still amazing though. They also are more physically demanding than an f1 car
easleyrider, The Dallara DW12 dimensions are as follows,
Wheelbase 3,073.4 mm (121 in)
Width 2,011 mm (79 in)
Weight 1,610 lb (730 kg)
2017 F1 cars-
Wheelbase 3,545mm-3760mm (139.5 - 148 in)
Width 2,000 mm (78.7 in)
Weight 1,548 lb (702 kg) minimum
So yes Indycars a a bit wider and heavier but F1 cars are a lot longer. Plus next years Indycars are cutting down on overall length and weight which will makes them even smaller and lighter.
Dr. Bananable Lector thanks for the info
I went to Monaco last year just a couple of weeks after the race while they still had many of the barriers and bleachers up. I ran the course a couple of times and drove it as well, and many of those streets are even more narrow than they appear on TV, so I'm not sure about the racing. That said, Monaco is just a stunning place to see in person, and if the IndyCars ever had a chance to race there I would be on that same flight with you.
The seven people who disliked this video are formula E fans.
it s going to be the best open wheel Championship of the world from 2018.
2011 revival sort of
Are you kidding?!?! VASTLY superior. Just Hurry Up and Wait guys; St. Petersburg will be soon enough :D Patience, young Grasshoppers ;)