Texas Dreams: Racism, Battery and Fear
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- This is the second segment looking into the allegations of racism, abuse and mistreatment taking place at Texas Dreams. Given everything that has been alleged from so many gymnasts, one has to wonder why Kim Zmeskal and Chris Burdette haven't been held accountable for their actions and are held to a different standard than Maggie Haney?
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The dismissiveness of injuries and normalizing training and competition with injuries seems nearly universal. So many gymnasts from so many nations speak of thid.
This trainer is creepy. An adult man messing and diminishing children. That's not teaching, it is abuse. Fear is not respect, is just that fear.
Kim learned well from the Karolyi's. A lot of the abuse you're talking about in these videos is eerily similar to what I've heard on other videos from what many other gymnasts experienced at their ranch. Watch videos where gymnasts talk about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the Karolyi's as well as other coaches.
Maggie doesn't have the clout that Kim has which is why I believe USAG is trying to ban her for life
The Zmeskals are responsible for their own actions. Neither Kim nor Chris grew up in the communist Eastern Bloc, nor have they ever lived or worked there.
They are both fully grown adults and fully aware that there are other methods they can use for training without burning out every athlete with potential that is under their supervision.
People need to leave the Karolyis out of this and let the Zmeskals bear the consequences of their actions just like Maggie Haney had to. Because what people don't realise is that the Karolyis are being used an excuse when they are not.
Wow , I'm shocked and hurt by this. Being a formal black male gymnastics coach. I would not dare make any racial comments or abuse my gymnast .No, I did not coach Elite Gymnastics, but I did coach recreational gymnastics which we competed in competition and I treated them all the same. Kim Zmeskal was one of my favorite gymnast that I followed her career. After seeing this I am totally disappointed and upset !!! I hope they get what they deserve this needs to be pushed through and heard !!! This type of coaching must stop !!!!
That "heavyweight" comment in the beginning from the creep on the right picture bothered me so much. Don't. M'fing. Talk. About. Someone's. Weight. It's not her fault you look like a poorly-created, wannabe 90s boy band member, and you don't see her commenting on that. God I wish they'd lose their credentials so no more gymnasts have to suffer at their hands.
Do you remember when he told Regan Smith, a girl who appears to weigh under 100 pounds, that she looked like Free Willy in the air. After being caught saying it he had the nerve to say "I wasn't talking about her weight I meant she looked like a dead fish in the air". I have no answers on why he thinks that free willy died in the movie. It's also a whale not a fish but whatever.
I think Kim gets away with most of this due to her being an Olympian and world team member plus I think she is in the hall of fame. She probably also had a problem with some of her teammates being rude to her when she was at competitions.
She was America's first ever World All Around Champion.
they get away with it because the other coaches and gymnasts who aren’t coached by them see them as perfect. everyone in that gym puts kim and chris on a pedestal and sees them as untouchable….
(i trained there under a different coach for a few years after my gym closed and our whole team moved to TD)
Don't forget, Kim won the US their first World All Around title in 1991. But that is not an excuse to get a way with crap like this.
Whenever I read about these increasing cases of abuse that is being exposed, I can't help thinking that Simone was VERY fortunate to have landed at a gym with Aimee Borman and that Aimee herself after having a coach whose coaching style was not the best in her view, vowed to do differently. Today we see what that different approach has yielded, the BEST female gymnast the world has ever seen. I want to SALUTE Aimee for this because she made the CONSIOUS decision to coach differently than what she had experienced as a young gymnast. Sadly, Kim and others who went through the "Karoyli System' all looked at producing results and paid no attention to the damage they were causing along the way. SAD!
My thought about Maggie is that nothing would have been done if Riley had not been abused. The case sat until she came forward. She was a current, top gymnast complaining so it couldn't go away.
I think the only reason Riley complained was because of the pandemic and the Olympics being canceled she saw she might not have a spot especially when they said the juniors would be eligible for the 2021 Olympics. She also saw Olivia coming up as a contender.
Kennedy’s experience was so heartbreaking and disturbing.
I mean, how many promising gymnasts from Texas don't get injured or burned out at one point (usually during the junior to senior transition)? And people still think Texas is one of the "good" gym. ?_?
Why is chris even a coach? Was he a gymnast? Can anyone who ever did gymnastics just call themselves a coach? Because coaching is different than doing and you should be trained to do that and also have training in child development.
Bela and Marta never did gymnastics and were THE coaches for decades… no one question it.
I don’t think that’s the point.
Valorie Kondos of UCLA also never did gymnastics
@@mathildewesendonck7225 Actually, Marta was a gymnast, and Bela learned gymnastics at University.
Unfortunately Kim has had major pull at USAG because of her relationship with the Karolyi's. They were abusive coaches that NBC would always spin as just the toughest coaches in Romania that lead Nadia to olympic gold... IDK why NBC would almost glorify the ranch, when in reality that place was filled with monsters verbally and physically abusing hundreds of gymnasts. IMO I think Maggie Haney is most definitely being made the scape goat. She 100 deserves to be suspended and face legal consequences, but so do many big name coaches that just get a free pass because of politics in the sport. Laurie Hernandez is a celebrity status athletes, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that USAG is being so harsh on Haney. They don't want to make their name any worse. Lastly, Kim's husband looks like a fucking creep and a half. Any parent that would let their child be coached by Chris must be blind, cause I sensed pedo from the moment I saw him.
I agree with your comments about Chris being creepy.
@@thecatspajamas8918 I agree just looking at him I thought the same thing.
I always thought Kim was a closeted mean girl. Also...her husband is creepy.
Yup, just a bitter nasty woman who can’t get over the fact that she choked at the Olympics.
@@stephaniemc9948 - you have a point. Dominique M has Olympic gold. Kim has Olympic bronze. She blocked Dominique from returning to the Olympics. I think it was pure jealousy.
@@JustMe-px9qy When did she block Dominique from returning to the Olympics? In 2000 she wasn't making the team anyway, she was out of the top 10 at Nationals and pulled out of the Trials injured.
He makes my skin crawl and Kim is a clone of the Karolyi's.
This duo never fooled me ..
I appreciate you taking the time to post these stories it's really important for people to understand what happens behind the scenes.
Clearly these coaches aren't as perfect as they look.
It's really sad because these coaches use psychological manipulation that these young girls aren't even old enough to understand... all they know is that they just feel horrible inside and at this age they should be feeling good about themselves, confident!
Very sad!
After seeing Athlete after Athlete get injured & not reach their full potential, I knew something was up
I think that what Haney did was deserving of the repercussions she has received but I do think that there are those politically connected that get away with being just as bad or worse. They deserve to be investigated at the very least.
In any case what I have noticed is that gymnasts that want to get to the olympics need a certain level of coaching and it's not available everywhere, and to the gymnasts (who see other coaches at training camps and meets) won't take the risk to switch gyms even when it's bad, shows this culture is throughout many gyms. It seems obvious to me that the fact that Haney 'fit in' amoungst other coaches, ie gymnasts hesitated to leave her cause the alternative didn't seem better shows there are others like her and they should also be investigated like she was.
The videos I've been watching are called "Defying Gravity." Very heartbreaking, but enlightening interviews with many gymnasts from multiple generations
My god Kim cutting Kennedy’s HAIR/Braids!!!!And then the fat shaming&racism!! This is disgraceful and disgusting! They should have no place in gymnastics ever again. Period.
I don't know wether Kim is taking over the coaching methods she learned from the karolys when she was a gymnast herself, and thinks that's the normal way of coaching, or if she is totally aware of her abusive and racist behaviour. Both is absolutely wrong and she should be banned for her actions.
She sounds so manipulating, I think shes aware of it.
She's a fully grown woman in her 40s, she's aware.
An elite gymnast knows the difference between discomfort and PAIN. It sounds as if Texas "Dreams" doesn't trust their athletes to tell one from the other, or be honest with the coaches about how they're feeling. A little bit of self reflection on that ALONE should make them question their coaching methods!
My 2 cents: cut my kid's hair and you are gonna have to deal with me, and it ain't gonna be pretty. I had a coach comment about my kid's hair as being too long and I told him then he needed to pay for her hair appointments. He shut up. Seems elite coaches have forgotten who is paying the gym fees. Maybe elite parents need to organize.
Kim Z was trained by the Karolis and they are still not answering to all that they have done, knew, etc so there is that. It is all in who you know and who you align yourself with most likely. Maybe Haney was never really appreciated by the Karolis; thus not protected. John Geddert is described as 'the devil' by his past gymnasts and he he has escaped real trouble also.
Non-minority folks...don't make any type racists jokes. just as simple as that. now, if you are racist....go ahead and tell your jokes, but don't whine when you are called out for what you are. If you truly are not...then you already know not to make racist jokes.
I read somewhere that Bela has dementia now. Not sure if it's true or not of course. Either way, I don't think they'll ever be held accountable for their actions.
I read that too and I believe Mattie Larson said that she heard Marta had gone back to Romania?
@@usagtea8072 Oh, yeah. That's what I read too but didn't realize it was Mattie who'd said it. I couldn't find any other references online at the time but that doesn't mean much tbh. Also, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Marta abandoned her sick husband in his final years. Totally sounds like something she'd do.
@@belindapaul9828 Damn that's cold. Who would be taking care of Bela? Their adult daughter?
@@anisaromano5352 I actually can't remember if there was any mention of the details tbh but could be. Cold af though (if it's true).
At the end of each practice, here’s what I do as a coach:
1. Go over what went well and what didn’t
2. Ask them what they’re proud of and then agree with them. No matter what it is that they did that they were proud of.
3. Give them some ‘homework’ so they improve at home (nothing crazy).
4. Let them give me a high five or a hug. Their choice. It’s never my pick.
I’ve always had a bad feeling Chris by the way he has touched his athletes during competitions. He’s just gross and creepy.
Yes, he's always being so overly touchy.
@@alana5518 Mihai Brestyan was that way too though, and no one ever talks about him.
Obviously this isn’t the main focus of this post. But the fact that Kim has any input on someone’s hair blows my mind. Pull up each and everyone of her videos of her career and I think it’s obviously she shouldn’t have input on the matter. Lol
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t know exactly what you’re talking about. 😅
I don’t get it.
Maybe she should cut her husband's hair..
This is a beautiful and appropriate level of snark and I love it.💞
Cans someone please explain?
You often hear, that children which get abused in their childhood, do the same when they are grown up, it's a really high number. So I think that's why it's happening so often in gymnastic, because those trainers experienced similiar things,of course this is no excuse, they made up their on mind of how to train
'She doesn't know what she did is wrong . . .[by cutting a gymnast's hair].'
Cutting someone's hair is assault. And the law doesn't care if you didn't know.
ugh that face on the right will continue to give me nightmares
So sadly true...if i go back ages ago when Kim was my idol, i couldn't get my head around the fact she married that creep. Now we are confronted with the harsh truth, and i still find it hard to accept Kim would be so cruel too. Sometimes it's intuition, which didn't let me down on witch Maggie Haney as well...sad...
Ooo that cut in the beginning! A work of Art! I’m wondering how many people caught that the first time around?
I’d really love an in-depth investigation into the Rybeckis. Sorry for the miss spelling. But from what I’ve heard about them they were very abusibe and should be held accountable for that too. Look how many top gymnasts left them and they have all mentioned how cruel and abusive the coaches were. Please can someone look further into them?
Absolutely. Vanessa Atler developed an eating disorder because according to her, they started weighing her and other gymnasts out of nowhere. Then there’s the damn Comaneci release of the bars, which has been her Achilles heel for so long. During the 1999 US championships, she missed the release again and Steve was pissed and yelled at her…on National TV! According to Vanessa, he didn’t talk to her at all after the meet and that was when she decided to leave for WOGA. Needless to say, things didn’t get better for her there.
Also can you talk about Parkettes? All the coaches there are horrible to their gymnasts. They would weigh their athletes, berate them, yell at them and blaming them for poor performance. Look at Jennifer Sey’s book “Chalked Up” about her experience with Parkettes and look up “Searching for the Perfect Ten: Parkettes” on RUclips and you’ll see what I mean.
I'd like to see a video on Valeri Liukin. I've heard "problematic" things about him but nothing extreme and he's at least acknowledged the accusations and seems to be okay now. Not sure how much info there is out there
Yes, this.
I think he used to make fat comments to gymnasts and he's changed his ways since being told how abusive it is. He seems to have mellowed in his older age.
@@anisaromano5352 That was my impression too tbh but he did resign from his position with USAG when there was a lot of media attention happening over the Nassar stuff and that made me wonder about him a bit more. Didn't one of his coaches go down for sexual abuse? I'll have to look it up but I think there was some shade thrown at Luikin over a few things because Nastia did a total denial statement.
@@belindapaul9828 I will look into this. I do remember he resigned after Mattie Larson directed criticism towards him in her victim statement.
I think the job wasn’t worth the criticism for him and USAG as a whole.
There is an article on him from the perspective of Vanessa Atler.. Google it ? Hope you can find it .
While I realize Kim and Chris are adults, Kim was coached by extremely abusive coaches. And its not that far fetched to say the apple didn't land far from the tree.....
Why do parents keep taking their kids to this gym and paying the bill?
This is devastating to hear but I don’t understand why the Asian girl was so mad and “hated her own name” because Chris said she is smart is wants to become a doctor at Stanford.
Because he implied that she was smart because she is of Asian descent. It is stereotyping 👀👀👀
@@trisanatandler Huh? How is it a stereotype to call someone smart? If you said the same thing to a black or white person no one would care, so why is it different that he says it to an Asian person? And even if it’s a stereotype that your smart, how is that offensive? Stereotypes for other races are extremely offensive and rude but calling someone smart? That’s a compliment.
@@brodypenn It's called 'model minority syndrome'. White supremacy/American society holds up Asians and Jewish people as proof that racism doesn't exist because those particular groups do well. I obviously don't know your race, but in general if someone feels as though they were discriminated against or that something was offensive against their race, it's better to air on the side of believing them. If you're not asian you don't necessarily know what they go through. Also being in texas and being one of the only asian girls in the group getting singled out for characteristics associated with your race isn't a fun thing, even if it's mostly positive characteristics.
@@bethanymclean2136 Thanks for telling me what model minority syndrome was I haven’t heard of that. I’m from Germany and don’t understand how things like this make people so angry, especially when it sounds like a good thing. America is way too obsessed with race and sexual orientation and gender. I’m also the only Caucasian person at my gym (smaller groups because of coronavirus), the rest are Asian or black and I’ve been the butt of many white jokes and I’ve learned to laugh it off because what’re you going to do? It’s not a big deal and I don’t really care so I’m confused as to why she’s so mad she was called smart. Tbh I still don’t get it but thanks for the explanation.
@@brodypenn because just it seems positive it does not mean it is not stereotyping. Typical stereotypes: Asians are smart, blondes are dumb etc...
That guy looks disgusting 🤢🤢🤢
These sound like some really awful people - criminals. Why are these "coaches" not in prison?
More like Texas Nightmares!
Again you can't hold the coaches accountable if you don't hold the parents accountable because it should have never happened in the first place. It all starts with the parents and teaching about boundaries and what those boundaries are. To be fair I'm not about hanging everything on the coaches either. I've seen coaches lives ruined for nothing and there's no protection for them and that's sad.
They should absolutely be punished. Very disappointing, enjoyed watching Kim back in the day and her gymnastics.
This sounds exactly like Bella’s gym environment.
This is really eye-opening thanks for this. I remember watching the 2016/17 quad with Ragan Smith and thinking her coaches seemed SO cool, and they look completely opposite of other coaches with mad faces. Really disappointing.
I saw a short documentary on this gym and it is not okay to tell a girl barely 100 pounds that she looks like free willy in the air after doing her vault. She grew up in that environment so you'd think she'd tell her husband that's not okay. Trying to say he didn't mean it as a jab at her weight but more she looked like a dead fish in the air. It would of been far less insulting if he'd said that. Also the gymnast he said that too was Regan Smith. A girl who appears to weigh under 100 pounds. I honestly believe he forgot he was being recorded because he immediately back tracked
First, Kim’s status as an Olympian and world champion gives her a lot of clout and “wiggle room” in the US gymnastics community. Second, they “play” the nice, positive coaches when the cameras are in them - very similar to MLT who is of course satan. It’s all about image and reputation. As others have mentioned in the comments, TD has a horrible record in terms of actually getting gymnasts to the highest level and completely breaking so many incredibly talented athletes. USAG is spineless and only reacts when they have no other choice.
Mary Lee T shot up red flags over twenty years ago with her mandatory bible study to say the least...
„She ended up dislocating her shoulder for the 3rd time, with Chris showing no concern. This may not sound like a big deal…“
Excuse me?!? 🤨😳
How cruel is this. Her dreams and future plans are shattered, and the coach doesn’t care, probably because the girl is no longer of any use for him. 😡🤬
Are there any elite gymnastics coaches out there that DON'T abuse their athletes? ☹
Aimee? Simone's old coach. And Madison K's, I think.
Coach Chow, maybe? He was Shawn and Gabby’s coach.
@@unknownuser_99 I miss Chow being in the US 😥 but I'm excited for what he's going to do for the Chinese program. I'd also add Sarah Jantzi (Maggie Nichols and Grace Mccallum's coach). She was the one that encouraged Maggie to report Nassar when she overheard Maggie and Aly talking about it, so that's a good sign.
Kyla always spoke highly of her time at gym max and Laurie seems much happier there now
Andy Memmel! (Chellsie’s dad & coach)
I also wonder why they haven't been investigated? Maggie did the same things as they have yet they are unscathed.
This kind of treatment is unbelievable and unacceptable!!
I have been watching a lot of old gymnastics videos...so disturbing..you watch how coaches react, not to when their gymnasts do well, but when they don’t. I see so many instances when (ie) the gymnast falls on the bars, and the coach turns and walks away in disgust..their is no concern there. The one that was scariest was a gymnast who fell on her routine-she was coached by Geddert. The look on his face was fury, not concern, not care...not surprising to hear he abused his gymnasts mentally and physically. So many horrible people in positions of power over the years. I really hope it’s changed.
Where are the parents??? Where were the parents???
I have heard stories about KimZ's coaching style for over 10 years. Abuse gets passed on. The Karolyis abused Kim. Kim abuses her gymnasts. Time to break the cycle.
Smh. Meanwhile people look so harmless.
Ugh, the husband always gave me the creeps. The haircut was a major red flag.
He is so gross
I agree with a lot of the posters here. I also believe that Kim herself is confused and upset that she has never had an Olympic gymnast. In the back of her mind, she is remembering the 1992 Olympics and how Shannon Miller got the accolades that she was expecting to get herself. Beth Rybacki suffered from this too - she was a 1980 Olympian who used her gymnasts to fulfill the dreams that she had to give up. I bet that Vanessa and Jamie have some stories that they could tell too. Steve was part of Marta's inner circle for years. Are there any good coaches? Is it a lack of training? Anyone can open up a gym, it seems.
They seem rude but this is kind if blown out if proportion. The entire state of Texas is full if passive aggressive 'culture of fear' behavior and values. But I feel like Texans think that's normal life.
You would think that Kim understands what's involved with young athletes who have the passion and desire to become much like her, a renown champion! Where did all of her expertise training go when training our next generation of superstar athletes? Hopefully, she'll learn the trust the process with compassion, love and respect first. Not results!
On a gut level I feel these behaviors stem more from ignorance than maliciousness. I think Chris legitimately believed he was being funny and some of his actions seem to be more in bad taste than truly abusive. Still concerning, but IMO most of this could be resolved by education. Versus Maggie is just a psychopath.
A grown man using racial slurs, making racist “jokes” or slave and master “jokes” to young black girls is not ignorance.
Let’s not play games here by dismissing deliberate racism as something coming from a place of ignorance and not malice.
The history of slavery is not funny. The emotional and psychological abuse from racism is not funny and never has been.
People have lost their jobs for saying less and not even to children.
He legitimately believed he was funny and he thought having no respect for black children as opposed to white children, was funny, regardless of they didn’t like it or made them feel inferior.
This is not resolved by education, even the most uneducated know better than to vocalize their racism publicly. He said these things to these young black girls because he knew he could get away with it.
This is resolved by enacting punishment.
I appreciate these videos. Kim was a fave of mine growing up so this is sad. But it’s true that abuse is a cycle and bullying is a learned behavior. I think that is a big problem in gymnastics right now. I would like to know about other gyms with problems.
While I agree it is a bit unfair that Maggie Haney is the only one being suspended I don’t think her claim of “scapegoating” is quite accurate (yes this is a dumb word choice comment, sorry). But that is when you are blamed for the actions of others. Haney is being punished for her own actions, but the punishment is not being given out evenly.
I would like to see all these coaches held accountable.
This is why parents need to attend these gym
What makes this gym even more deceptive and that the viewing area is huge. You can see the entire gym from where the parents can sit. The "humor" and sarcasm tricks parents into believing everything is alright. They see the hugs, but they don't see the abuse their child goes through. It's extremely manipulative
I'm a white gymnast, and in MY eyes, it's very sad to see racism entering our beautiful sport. I'm not racist & I see all races as equal, even if they may be different from each other. Ironically, I've seen many caucasian racists putting Asians up on a pedestal, while treating blacks like subhumans
I'm unable to see the tweets because they are protected.
How are they still coaching ?
When are you going to make another video about this?
Do these girls not have parents? Show these girls parents. Perhaps parental involvement should be addressed too?
I address this in the Anna Li case and I am now working on a Maggie video in which I talk about it. I'm thinking that I may need to do a separate video on it altogether, because you are 100% correct.
I remember Kim's own parents being super creepy. I'm sure that didn't help.
The hair cutting was enough for me. 🤮
I don't know what the issue is with Chris but Kim really needs to seek treatment for the abuse she received at the ranch. I'm not sure she is able to coach the way athletes deserve to be treated with the background she thought was normal.
Does anyone know how official USAG investigations into coach abuse works? Does there have to be official claims made with them or with law officials to instigate an investigation or can the USAG simply investigate based on suspicion? There is a lack of USAG or organizational supervision in member gyms - are there watch groups that exist to aid families and athletes in a sport where coaches and clubs have so much power physically, financially, and with knowledge/expertise?
You are WRONG about only Haney; you have NOT been paying attention!!
The WOGA gym out of Dallas, Tx.;
Have you NOTICED at ALL; Valeri Liuken who was LOADED with elite gymnasts, MORE than Haney!
1) he quietly resigned his position as the head of womens national coordinator!
2) U.S.A. has TRIED HARD to MINIMIZE any REAL issues with him--- saying the move was to "spare him from stress and uncertanity" --here is the important part-of the statement
------- "CREATED BY THE SCANDAL"
NOTE---- NOT CREATED by ------ HIM! NOT created by the RUSSIAN , TYPICAL way of TRAINING that he SEES as "acceptable"!! that HE ONLY knows, that he grew up with, that
HE thinks is the --- "only way"!
3) Did you NOTICE-- he had ZERO gymnasts at his OWN daughters invite! NOT ONE gymnast QUALIFY for -- Olympic trials!
It is like his WHOLE ELITE program --- just disappeared ! The MANY gymnasts that he had -- for YEARS!
Some people WILL TRY to say; he just "didn't have any athletes at that level"--- this is TOTAL GARBAGE!
He is covering himself-- period, any elites he had are now somewhere else!
The U.S.A,. gymnastics NEW board of directors, ALL the NEW leadership ( ALL!!!) are NO better than before!
They WILL DO ANYTHING for -- NASTIA, they DON'T want this to AFFECT -- her IMAGE , no bad PR that WOULD --- DEFINITELY affect her image !!
The WHOLE Chinese and Russian LARGE group of former gymnasts WHO ALL( yes --- ALL!!) OWN gyms and ARE getting WEALTHY--- are out there, TRYING to lay LOW!
Their WAY of training and treatment of athletes is---- ALL they -- KNOW, all they UNDERSTAND!
Haney -- is just the scapegoat, yes, she is very wrong, but she is NOTHING compared the Chinese and Russians who are NOT be targeted ----- VERY PURPOSELY.
Albert Azarian of So Cal has done a good job at KEEPING himself at arms distance from the abuse, even as he KNOWS- what goes on, but - he makes SURE there is NO DIRECT connection to him!
Zmeskal and the Karoli’s gymnastics were overrated. Remember it was the Karoli’s who brought this new gymnastics with young girls who are easily manipulated mentally and physically.
I was a Miller fan but couldn’t stand the Nunno.
What will become of “women’s” gymnastics? it’s a bit boring now 🙄
What about football when they are cursed at?
It also seems there are a lot less colored skin girls there..... wonder why
“Colored skin” girls? What is this 1968?
i also dont think the “heavy lifting” joke with payton ernst was necessarily about her weight i think it was about how well she could do the skill
That's how I took it too. Not in great taste maybe but not abusive.
The beginning of this video is to show the “fun” side often depicted in the media from Texas Dreams. The rest of the video details the abuse allegations.
@@usagtea8072 ohhh ok thanks for clarifying
The coach really needs to be quiet. There is no need to banter with children when you don't do it well, and children don't understand adult jokes. He clearly has a communication problem. When certain people think they're funny, but are always offending people, I suspect undeveloped social skills. This is magnified by his work all day with children. They are not his peers or friends, but his clients. He needs to stick to the training and only directly instruct as to what needs to be done and what he wants his clients to do.
I think Kim and Maggie will be banned
I found you, I love you channel....
This is so sad if true.
This is a fine example of whataboutism. It would be one thing if you were saying they all deserve the level of punishment, but you are using different cases of abuse to downplay the about of maggje and present her as a victim in her own way. The best way to finish this is just to remind everyone some things that were witnessed and revealed that Maggie Haney and Victoria Levine were up too while coaching. Just because Kim and her husband are pieces of shit doesn't mean maggie haney is being set to take the fall.
The girl asked the coaches to spot her. They would not, Levine citing a recent medical procedure she had undergone.
The gymnast tried the trick, fell, hitting her head on the equipment and then again on exposed cement before landing in a foam pit. Haney and Levine laughed at the girl in the pit until they realized she was having seizures, according to the mother and two other parents.
The girl had suffered two skull fractures. Her mother arrived at the hospital to find a chaplain near her daughter’s unconscious and lifeless-appearing body.
Oh no she was one of my favorites. I hope this is not true
Both girls said she and Chris reached out them to “apologize” and “heal”.
So I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s true.
I remember her whip backs. Always felt sad for her Olympic experience. Yuck if true. No more abusive anyone...coaches etc
My god
Never trust a coach who was trained by the Karolyi’s and who refuses to condemn their methods.
I love you channel omg I got to follow you on my gymnastics channel
What is Kim's last name?
Zmeskal Burdette
@@usagtea8072 OMG Kim Zmeskal! Hate to think she passed down how she was maybe treated by the Karolyis
I don’t like Kim but I CAN’T imagine she’d cut someone’s hair without permission. That’s very hard to believe.
I think it’s also fair for someone to think that.
However, I can’t imagine what Kennedy would have to gain by lying about this. She didn’t give general stories, she gave a series of detailed events that took place. I don’t see why she would specifically lie about this but tell the truth about Chris?
I always appreciate differing opinions, so thank you for sharing!
@@usagtea8072 - I don’t know enough about the situation or Kim and Kennedy to have an education opinion. It’s just extremely hard to believe Kim would think it’s OK to cut a young girl’s hair. But stranger things have happened.
Don’t be a liberal.
Ok but how is Chris going to make fun of Ashton’s name (Kim) when his wife’s name is *KIM* ZMESKAL. It just shows how racist he is😒
racism and body shaming are never ok but some of the jokes between ragan and emma i think had to do with ragan and emma’s friendship... i think part of the issue is people are taking the jokes between emma and ragan too seriously
Just a bunch of cry babies.