Analysis of Maggie's Side of the Story
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Maggie Haney tells her side of the story, revealing herself to be a true narcissist. Here we talk about her manipulation tactics and the complete lack of responsibility she has for her actions.
Is it possible that some parents turned a blind eye because Maggie had the ability to get them to the olympics or a college scholarships?
I think this is a definite possibility.
@@usagtea8072 - where did you find this video? I’d like to see the whole thing.
m.ruclips.net/video/5YyrN7nZwx0/видео.html
@@usagtea8072 - thanks
It’s not “turning a blind eye”. People know what they saw with their own eyes and won’t be told differently.
Maggie: My gymnasts were never harmed by Larry Nassar because they were too busy being mentally tormented by me. ☺️
Amen !
She was 1000000% a mean girl in middle school and never grew out of it
Omg
Lol
Omg!!!
Mean girls in high school don’t change…I’m 49 and they stay bullies most of their lives
How would Maggie know if her athletes were Nassar victims or not? Just because none of them have come forward doesn't mean it didn't happen to them. Just because she was around them all the time doesn't mean Nassar didn't still manage to abuse them. Nassau got extremely brazen over the decades and would abuse athletes right in front of coaches and parents.
Exactly right, Considering most of the girls thought it was a real thing because their own parents were in the room.
@@lokieec.r.p.swarrior8740 #This so much
Truth and it's total cringe watching her sit there shaming people like that.
Then why aren’t those other coaches banned that their athletes said were victims?
Exactly. In fact, Laurie Hernandez is the ONLY gymnast on the 2016 Olympic team that has not come out that she was abused by Nassar. Given the fact that she was already in an abusive situation with Maggie, it may just be too much for her to talk about (in no way am I assuming or insinuating that she WAS molested by Nassar).
Coaches like Maggie are the reason I remain at the gym during my daughter’s practices. Also, I would smile, like this 😇, in the mugshot if ever a coach attempted to treat my child the way Maggie treated her victims. The lord knows my heart though. 😌
Thats why she didnt have black girls on her team. Black mommas aint going for that shit
@@dahighbar that’s a crappy thing to say and her daughter is half black. She had black athletes for your information.
@Lisa Gayle Bless your sweet loving heart. I assure you, I meant every word in my comment, mmmkay babydoll. 😉
@Lisa Gayle Yes, if it is the truth...and stops others being abused...Marta Karoyli was still running things on the team in 2016. We know that Marta was shamelessly abusive..which made it very easy for Nassar to groom the girls. He got them food when they were being starved, was nice to them when the coaches treated them like crap. They are supposed to smile, they have won a chance to be on a McDonalds' cup. They are trained to smile and ignore their pain, their anxiety if they make a mistake...
LOL!
Maggie just looks mean.
That is not fair to judge on a person’s looks
@@mariaellis2882 - it’s not what I hear
…it’s what I see
@@tracym9763 - true
@Lisa Gayle - you could be right. Maybe it’s not meanness. Just competitive
Thank you for doing these videos. Also, the parents and Maggie are totally ignoring Riley’s existence.
Her bizarre injections and fillers make her look crazy. I usually don’t say such things on the internet and yes, I’d say it to her face. She terrorized her students/athletes: if this was a real world middle or HS classroom she’d NEVER get a teaching job again. That they can even entertain a probationary period after eight years is utterly disgusting to me. What parent (in their right mind) would opt to have their child coached by her henceforth?
arent you translmfao
its so interesting to me that maggie talks about larry in the beginning for no reason and acts as a hero but then acts like it’s weird that there was a culture change in the sport after 2016.
Her girls were on the young side during everything, and she was ignoring their injuries.
Clearly, a heartfelt apology to her victims seems to be worlds beyond what she's capable of. But if she had just a shred of decency, she would admit to herself how awful she's been, the harm she's caused, and simply drop out of the world of gymnastics.
Damn those parents only care about one thing... their 'dream' for their child. They don't care if the child is abused, as long as they see results. Notice how one of them says 'we all have the dream, that your daughter can be an elite'. How about your daughter's wishes and wellbeing, huh?
I'm 60% sure Laurie Hernandez has said she was assulted by Nassar....
Yeah she was you can see in the video of overcoming abuse and healing in gymnastics
Wow! The most scary and intimidating things are, in my opinion, that current MG parents are protecting Maggie Haney and the coaching staff members from all allegations. If there are ongoing allegations in terms of physical and mental abuse of former gymnasts; it has to be taken seriously! Glad if your child was not affected by any abusive behavior or coaching style (yet) - but telling the "good" things and your personal experience about the gym doesn't make it better. Individual cases from former athletes have nothing to do with their own experiences. They really try to neutralize the happenings. That's definitely not the right way to approach this issue! Also, nobody asks the children how they (!) really feel as gymnasts everyday. The most scary thing is that it's actually the parents - especially in this video - who want to live their dreams through their children: Being famous and a potential parent of an olympian athlete.
this is exactly what happened earlier on with so many of the Nassar defenders until they either shut themselves up in the face of the overwhelming evidence or got drowned out. horrible.
💯 the parents are a bigger problem than Maggie. I am not defending Maggie, that’s how bad these parents are. I am ashamed of the human race.
It has nothing to do with “our child’s experience “ it is that we saw that they were not treated as they are saying.
@@fiedledey437 I do understand the point of frustration. Also, I do understand that some MG parents and children might have experienced completely differently . But how do parents know what exactly happened inside and outside of the gym? Especially in regard to former and/or other elite gymnasts. I honestly don't think that they can judge from a neutral perspective - since their perspective is biased on personal experiences regarding their children, training groups, staff members etc. That's the reason why (independent) investigations are necessary that there are no false allegations. A few positive parents' statements about the gyms' atmosphere or the supportive and professional coaching style do not proof all abuse allegations of former athletes to be false. That's the point here.
I think the point you made about 'neutralising' claims is so good. So many times it's like 'well that other gymnast said she's great' but even if someone is great to some people it doesn't mean the abuse they do to another is somehow then okay, or shouldn't be taken seriously.
You know, it’s interesting...
I’ve read all these stories and didn’t even realize that I went through the same thing the entire time. I was not a gymnast, I was a competitive swimmer, albeit a crap one. But if my coach wasn’t satisfied with my kicking in the water he would drag me to a room off the pool and beat me up with my swim fins. If I failed to keep up with my record, he would be waiting at the end of the pool and pushed my head underwater until I couldn’t breathe. Well... I wasn’t and would never be a relevant athlete, and I quit a long time ago, but that’s my story, I guess. It’s scary how normalized it is in Korea. No one even talks about it
The worst thing is, if you ever came out you would have been at fault because of society.
@@iamagirl9938 Yeah, in east asia you get beaten up it’s for your own good... :(
Swimming culture is super toxic too! I’ve not heard any good things honestly...
@@Constantin9va I guess I’ll be the first to tell you something mediocre. It’s good when you find the perfect coach. I had this one coach who used to push us hard but knew when we reached our limits. I was very upset when he had to leave.
On the other end I had this coach who would make us swim for 30 minutes nonstop, like no breathers or water breaks in between. The second we got in the pool it was swimming swimming swimming.
Like I said, when you find the perfect coach it’s all good.
I think Maggie’s daughter is also a gymnast. I wonder how she treats her own child.
I remember back when i was young, i had an abusive coach in gymnastics. He would scream and yell at the girls, including me. He would force us to become more flexible by physically pushing us. And he would work us to the bone even when injured, it would come to a point where we were so overworked at practice that we would become clumsy and get hurt. I ended up quitting because the coach was abusive, parents interfered and confronted him about his behavior. Almost the entire team quit and then he got fired. Abuse comes in many different forms and it is important to realize where to draw the line between “encouragement and repetition” and “overworking with zero regards” because it is traumatic. I feel bad for these girls because i know part of what they have gone through. No one deserves to go through any abuse or manipulation.
Maggie Haney really disgusts me.
I could write a novel on the abuse that is perpetrated on young athletes in the name of being the best. Long story short... there is not a single title, competition or medal worth the damage that is being done to these kids! KIDS!
And I’m talking about all aspects... physical damage, injuries, physical and sexual abuse, the mental pressures, the emotional pressures and abuse and their overall happiness! I want to see the medal that is worth the damage done to these very talented athletes?
If any coach/parent/former athlete can hold up a medal and say, face to face, “this medal was worth my soul”, I want that same person to face the athletes, their family and friends, hold up that same medal, and loudly announce “I’m willing to sacrifice everyone’s spirit and self worth to get one athlete to win this medal”. That’s not an event I’m concerned with penciling in on my calendar, because no one has the nerve to be that transparent with their goals!
her suspension was just dropped to 5 years...
Narcissists that flock together abuse together - 2021
She is now spending her time getting more lip fillers.
I don't understand why the parents who vouch for Maggie are minimized because they say positive things about her as if it can't be true
Why is Olivias mom defending her when Olivia doesn’t even practice there anymore..? Like what was Olivias motive for leaving??
That was before Maggie’s sentencing, so she was supporting. Olivia left because, although Maggie keeps working as a coach even after her sentencing, any gymnast who works with Maggie or MG Elite cannot be a USAG member. She had too much at stake. I’ll be covering this shortly.
I happened onto this channel/vid by accident but I had to take a peek!! OMG, this triggered so much in me!
Maggie was trying to throw shade a different direction by talking about Larry Nassar.
Children are too young to process or know that they're being psychologically abused!!!! Don't blame the child!
The culture was very different in the past but that doesn't give anyone the right to do it.
I can't stand Maggie and I hope she gets permanently banned.
Amazing channel! Love the tea! Keep up the good work 😁
Maggie Haney comes straight out of a horror movie 😣
Honestly, yeah Maggie is bad and all, 10/10 should get a lifetime ban. But stop acting like the parents are victims “in a lose lose situation” bc they prioritize their status as an elite parent over their children NOT BEING ABUSED. Jesus Christ, 🙏🏻 The parents are NOT the victims. The CHILDREN are.
If it was easy for parents to speak up about their children being mistreated/abused without the high possibility that your child will be blocked from all other elite coaches, have their scholarship(s) and their lives ruined. Then I would agree.
However, as I stated in my video, the system is not set up to protect gymnasts. So I will not act like it’s such an easy decision or that parents also aren’t put in a terrible situation.
And as I stated in the video, there is a level of parental responsibility and some parents were aware of what was going on in the gym.
This is all true, but I am still objective enough to realize everything is not one-dimensional for the parents and their decisions.
Jessica McCusker keeping Riley enrolled while working behind the scenes to get Haney investigated is a prime example of that.
I am glad you brought this up, because I am working on a video about parental culpability in gymnastics abuse.
@@usagtea8072 Thank you. However I cannot agree that they would have their “lives ruined” if they didn’t go to college or were blocked from the elite gymnastics world. I also hold a worldview in which I this sport is NOT more important than a life without blatant child abuse. I think that the parents are doing the life ruining by failing to protect their offspring from mistreatment and abuse. I speak from personal experience. It’s my favorite sport to watch for sure, but not worth the abuse.
Riley and Laurie are two of my favorite gymnasts. I don’t know much about Maggie but I get a horrible vibe from her. I wonder if Riley had a different coach if she would have made the Olympics? She was truly a gift and it makes me sad she had an abusive coach that may have ended her Olympic chances
Is there a good coach left in the US?
I think Jordan Wiebers and Aly Raismans former coach, Mihay Breznan, is a good one. I read Alys book, and it sounds like they were a good team.
Does Maggie know how terrified these girls are and therefore won’t speak out?? Well actually, of course she would. She’s a nasty evil person
Just wanna put it out there that Mykayla Skinner seems like a covert narcissist, with her "I'm sorry you feel that way" non-apology for racist actions in 2016.
What did she do? I’m unaware.
@@eeericaa Laundry list of what Mykayla Skinner has done:
- published a self-written tweet that used the N word uncensored
- has said the N word many times out loud on snapchat
- in 2016, retweeted racist tweets about Gabby Douglas (Mykayla was 19 years old at the time)
- has never apologized for the above, despite having many opportunities to do so (all she has said is "I'm sorry you feel that way" and "I wish I could apologize")
- has gone on homophobic rants on twitter before
- is a CONFIRMED Mormon, meaning she has publicly agreed with all Mormon scripture (Mormon scripture is flagrantly homophobic, and until recently, was extremely racist against black people too)
- went out to eat in public places, maskless, while infected with covid
- her husband has said on instagram that he does not believe that systemic racism exists in America
@@mindykoch3340 oh wow... 😳
@@mindykoch3340 OMG I am shocked! :O This is insane, how did she not get cancelled
@@mindykoch3340 and yet despite everything you listed she's still awesome lol
Thank you. The way you covered this was so well done.
I'd like to see the original video of that interview? Is it possible?
Where did you find this video?
ruclips.net/video/5YyrN7nZwx0/видео.html
Everyone is guilty here; the coach, the gymnasts and their parents! They knew what was happening but the lure of glory was too great so they kept quiet. Once they had achieved what they wanted, they turned on each other..
Not the children.
What you’re doing by blaming the gymnasts is called victim blaming and it’s really gross. They were children.
where do I find the original video for the statement?
Fig gymnastic and usag really need to get an better system for the abuse sexual abuse and other type of abuse in gymnastics
I feel ashamed that my name is Maggie now lol, but seriously all of this abusive and inappropriate coaching needs to stop because all of these gymnastics are suffering.
I’m so sorry! I’m also so sorry for any Mary’s, Kelli’s, Kim’s, Chris’s, Val’s, Al’s, Armine’s (I really like this name, so that’s extra depressing), Tom’s, Steve’s...etc ect ect
Obviously you should not feel shame for having the same name as a crap human (I bet I do as well) but I think you were using it as a figure of speech mostly. I’m also super happy to glom on to an opportunity to point out how this is so much bigger than Maggie Haney!
USAG doesn’t and didn’t teach all of their coaches to be abusers. This is the sole reason that I left the USA, to coach in Europe bc Iafter Rio, I knew of the abuse, of the rumors and didn’t want to have anything to do with it. I can speak for so many of us good coaches. We love our sport and our kids. No amount of gold medals and political persuasion could ever make me become a monster like this
im just so curious to see what ari and jazzy have to say and why they havent said anything
maybe they’re waiting until they’re past college
I would really love to hear what they have to say, particularly Ari!
yeah I'm curious what is Jazzy's opinion. I'm sure Ari was abused a lot, and I think she isn't ready to share her story yet
@@anikokoren3417 especially all the crap Maggie talked about her! Jazzy comes across as super resilient. I have no idea if that is actually the case. I think she will become an important voice in the days to come.
any idea where I could find the actual PR video?
where can we find this documentary?
The interview is here: ruclips.net/video/5YyrN7nZwx0/видео.html
I really hope USAG is working to give their talented athletes everything they deserve in the future .
Hold on. How do you think USA gymnastics is so dominant? Meggie was doing what most coaches were and are still doing: pushing athletes beyond limits in order to get those unbeatable results. She is being punished and rightly so, however 90 percent of current coaches apply similar approach. She is just the one who was recorded doing it.
Where did you find this video, I have been looking and I can’t find it
ruclips.net/video/5YyrN7nZwx0/видео.html
Didn’t you attend MG Elite?
@@elizabeth568 yes I did
@@AshleyStrandberg What’s your opinion on the situation? If I may ask. 🥰
She 100% voted for Trump.
God.....
youre clearly a they/them
I can’t find the actual video. I’ve looked it up all over. Where is it?
Here it is: m.ruclips.net/video/5YyrN7nZwx0/видео.html
What abuse did Laurie acuse her of?
POV Maggie teaches at your gym and u see her like 3 times a week
I never really liked her when I first saw her in 2016 Olympics.
"We were producing some great gymnasts" Ex-fucking-scuse me? They aren't products, they aren't goods. They're people, and honestly kids!
That thumbnail 😭😭😭
This is absolutely disgusting this individual seems like a deceptive miserable woman. These are children.. wow 🤬🤬🤬
I really hope Maggie seen this video! I really hope she gets to see someone expose all her BS!! But there is a saying "stupid people dont think of know they are stupid" so does Maggie really know she is crazy???
LMFGAO on the thumbnail pic!!!!!!!
Why did the gymnasts stay with her if she was so bad?? something is just not right!!
If your coach literally dangle your Olympic or World Championships dream above your head and said
"Only I have the power to bestow this to you and no one will believe you,"
People will stick. You gotta stay in abusive and unbalanced relationships for once to understand the psyche on how hard is to just go out from such relationships
Thank you. I don’t have the energy to explain the obvious.
You have got to be kidding. Abused women stay with their partners for YEARS. Abuse victims, due to years of psychological manipulation, are literally beaten down into believing they are nothing without their coach, or in the case of an abused woman no one will love them like their abuser, somehow they are made to feel it's their fault...this is so TEXTBOOK!
do some BASIC research on abuse. it’s TEXTBOOK
I've never even heard of her or this story before but damn she seriously just looks like an evil step mom or villain or something. Sheesh.
um I trust Laurie over maggie
What's wrong with her face?
I went to this place in 2020. They would sit on top of me to make me flexability bettter and it did not work. the coaches there are still really bad to this day and now I go to diffrent place and im not allowed to do any back things off of the beam cause the way my back is now
sounds like a you issue. do you not know how flexibility is increased..... dont pass the blame for your lack of talent
For me this is not right at all.When we are talking about a minor you don't sue only the coach but first on the line are the parents who do anything and everything to get into the team.I won't respect anyone's opinion if it comes to only the coach is wrong for me as a parent I would have been on top of that and I would have addresses everything from the very beginning. It's like I accuse somebody that he is a criminal but I am pushing my kid towards that. That's bullshit .Parents grow up and coaches get psychologically educated about kids/ athletes.
I want my girls to not have to leave home for the training they’ve left home for.
I want you to not work with kids ever again. Get help
I always thought she looked scary, Look at those eyes, so empty….
A true narcissist
Nothing on her face moves except her eyes and mouth. Botox much? 😂 Her saying she hovered around her girls while with Larry sounds like she knew what he was doing. 🤔
Why is she even in a gym
What is wrong with her face?
Solution: those who have a problem with her, leave. Those who like her, stay.
omfg you know NADA about abuse. abusers silence their victims.
kirstie b duh. It’s ok that you don’t get what I’m saying.
It is one family because there is no way in h*** that if Laurie was still at that gym and going for 2020, that any other family would be complaining!!!
Multiple families are complaining and have complained for sometime. And it’s not just the families. Other officials have been concerned and filed complaints on Maggie for how she treated her gymnasts.
@@usagtea8072 as I said it was due to one family’s complaint and if they were still at the gym no one else would be complaining
Fiedle Dey Laurie’s complaints were filed years before the others. But even if what you are saying is true, I’m don’t understand what you are implying?
@OHB Only Zoe Gravier testified? What did she say?
@@usagtea8072 I am saying she was the first one to complain so she was a catalyst for everyone else.
Maggie is a tough coach. Put up with it or leave. It's just that simple why make a huge deal out if it? I could go on and on about abusive PARENTS! At the gym knowing the kid has to live with them. She's tough so what.
🙄 laurie developed and eating disorder and depression with is the worst form of human torture.
Rhabdo is insane she almost killed Riley
@@Whatever45302 then her parents should have taken her away long ago
The end was so inspirational. Glad her sentence was reduced from 8 years to 5. I bet it will soon be reduced from 5 to 3, then to 1, and she will be back in the gym ASAP with her girls who want to be back with her so much. GO MAGGIE!
do you even know what she said to these girls? pulled a girl off the floor by her ponytail? IGNORANCE
Ew 🤢🤢
Not once was her gymnast ever sexually abuse when almost every single elite athlete was. Clearly she was doing her job. Clearly she had these girls best interest. Clearly she would never let anyone abuse them.
Other than herself....
That has nothing to do with Maggie and her abusive behavior that got her suspended.
Mehgann I love this analogy!
@@lydiaparker824 are you kidding me? So it’s better to be molested than yelled at? Because that’s all they’re saying the “-abuse” was and it’s a slap in the face of true abuse survivors
@@fiedledey437 all I said was other than herself you reply makes no sense in what I said so drop it
Such an incredibly wonderful women. Being unfairly screwed over! Team Maggie!!!
Are you serious? She has zero compassion and doesn't even flinch when her athletes in competition fall.
Ewe......poor thing!
@@g.g9158coaches don’t necessarily flinch all the time. Falls is pretty common in our sport. I’ve asked myself why I flinch at some and not others and don’t have an exact answer. Maybe because some mistakes have a more permanent idea in my head of what’s bad and what I know is likely to be ok as gymnasts are trained how to crash. I personally don’t know Maggie but I’m not going to judge it on whether she flinched or not as I see coaches not flinch in competition throughout my 32 years in this sport. Denying a child a wellness check that the athlete is ok or not is where I would draw the line.
This video is disgusting. The fact you can sit here and bash this innocent women is absurd. Maggie doesn't deserve any of this, and is not the women the media shows her as. The problems lie within USAG, and their needs to be a change.
do you know what she did to the girls?
what was said?
you’re clueless.
"Innocent" then why are some of her girls suing her? Or testifying against her? If she were innocent no one would be stepping forward from her ex-team