Redeemed Zoomer I know you'll probably never read this comment but I would like to say this. You made me Christian i'm 14 i'm gonna be 15 in 4 days 1 year ago more or less I was a full blown Richard Dawkins style atheist then I stumbled upon your denominations video I grew facinated then watched your other stuff and you convinced me of God existing. Now i'm reading the bible and soon will start going to church thank you.Without your videos I would have never been Christian.You've made me a better person.
to add to your point on Reformed Baptists, it's important to note that the term Reformed Baptist is also relatively modern. They were historically called Particular Baptist for holding to particular redemption (limited atonement)
Zoomer videos are great for putting my son to bed. Not even joking. I’ll just watch a Kingdom Craft video while rocking him to sleep. This kid is gonna be theologically saturated
Interesting how you stated that dutch reformed theologians tend to be less strict on the sabbath than presbyterians. I myself am dutch reformed and still undecided on the sabbath. Will you ever do a kingdom cract video on whether the sabbath is still mandatory for christians today? I believe John Calvin believed is wasn’t.
I choose to call myself Reformed because I constantly move and sometimes I cannot always find a Presbyterian Church that shares my traditional values that’s close to where I live. Therefore I go by my theology rather than my personal belief in a Presbyterian polity. If there’s a close Anglican Church, I’ll go there, if there’s a close Baptist church, I’ll go there, if there’s a close Presbyterian church, I’ll go there.
15:41 Bl. John Duns Scotus is not called “Scotus” because of Scotland. That is a common misconception. “Scotus” was a medieval term that was applied to all non-Welsh celts in the British Isles. Historians are divided on whether Bl. John Duns Scotus was Irish or Scottish. For example, there is another medieval philosopher named John Scotus Eriugena who was Irish. Also, historians debate whether the name “Duns” refers to Duns, Scotland or Duns the Irish name meaning “fort.” The Catholic Encyclopedia has an excellent article on this.
He is not bashing, he is saying that 'Reformed Baptist' is mistaken. If you think RZ is bad, wait till you read what John Calvin said about opposition to infant baptism.
14:24 So the reason I disagree with the position of "no drums electric guitar etc" in church is the Psalm 100 where we make "a joyful noise unto the Lord". Now I know this has been argued that u shouldnt do that with drums due to the pagan practices that invovle drums. Also psalm 98 as well. I agree its a shame we dont play trad hymns in church anymore but I dont think there's anything wrong with doing a trad version of How great Thou Art with a guitar and drum accompaniment. Ironically there was a YT channel that recently did a video of "Can CCM artists name these hymns?" and they were ALL IN CCM STYLE. It's like "Dude that's not challenging. Give them the trad version and see if they can name it"
There used to be arguments that pipes were too entrancing and a tool of the devil. I think it’s pretty hard to make an absolute case of any exact instrument being one way or another.
@davidfitzpatrick6535 Also Colosseans 3:16 and Ephesians 5:18-19. Both list "psalms and hymns and spiritual songs" next to each other - as distinctint things, so you can't say that _only psalms_ are valid hymns and spiritual songs. Not just psalms, but also other songs. And what's more - Paul affirms that when we partake in those, we can be filled with spirit, the Word of God can dwell in us. So exclusive psalmody is a human teaching trying to be even more strict than the Bible requires you to. Excessive legalism IMHO. But I might be wrong...
Hello redeemed zoomer! I really like your videos even though I am Muslim but the way you give the info is so nice and simple and I've noticed that there's many similarities between both Islam and Christianitys I have a bit of questions tho Is the kingdom craft server open? I really want to play it What's your favorite food (I KNOW ITS RANDOM BUT IM CURIOUS) That's my only questions lol, I really want to tell you that you're a very good RUclipsr and you should keep it up dude
You should look into Christianity more! There are certainly things in common, but the biggest difference is in the view of what Jesus came to do. Anyway, have a great day!
God is truly glorious. I used to be lukewarm and doubting but a year ago He led me to Him. Jesus can save you even though you don’t deserve it! Go to Jesus God is truly good and righteous may the Holy Spirit guide you.
As for Anglicanism, The Church of England, as you said, is historically Calvinist and has always been friends with other reformed denominations. We even had a Dutch Reformed king once, William III. But the Church never dogmatically asserted Calvinism specifically, only protestantism, so has always tolerated Lutheran ideas, especially due to having a long line of Lutheran kings, and also became open to Wesleyan ideas after he broke away. This large variety of ideas is what allowed the Anglo-Catholics to emerge in modern times, though Cranmer and Cromwell probably would have recoiled at their existence
The Dutch also have a rich tradition of practical theology and Sabbath observance. If you look at Ursinus and Olevianus, they were essentially in agreement with the Presbyterians. Read any of the many sermons preached on the Heidelberg Catechism and you'll quickly see that the supposed differences on the Sabbath and practical theology are practically nonexistent. Also, while the Dutch historically don't practice exclusive psalmody, they are so close that the difference is almost negligible. the difference is that Presbyterians historically sing ONLY the psalms whereas the Dutch sing only the psalms and other passages of scripture set to music (typically the Ten Commandments and the songs of Mary, Zechariah, and Simeon). It's the latter view which was held by John Calvin and the church in Geneva. The best defense of this view is in chapter 7 of "Recovering the Reformed Confession: Our Theology, Piety, and Practice" by R. Scott Clark.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v I know that, but the Heidelberg Catechism (written by Ursinus and Olevianus) is an essential piece of the Dutch Reformed tradition (that much was solidified in less than a century after the Reformation). The legacy of their theology lives on in the Dutch churches.
@Redemned Zoomer I need to correct you on something. You said that Reformed baptists weren’t reformed because they don’t believe in the real presence and or pedobaptism and yet you say that the Puritan Congregationalists are reformed because they do accept infant baptism. However, if you read the Savoy Declaration of 1658 which is the first Puritan Congregationalist confession of faith it says nothing about “the presence”. So does that make it truly reformed on your view? I think that there an issue with how you are defining “reformed”. It seems on your view, the defining characteristic of being reformed is infant baptism which cannot work in my view.
Also, anecdotal, but my Dad grew up Dutch Reformed and his community was INCREDIBLY strict on the sabbath. As a child he was once spanked for ASKING to ride a bike for fun on the sabbath.
I’m Anglican and hold to double predestination, I know many others in the Church of England that hold to it as well. It has its basis from St Augustine Predestination is biblical and predates Calvinism. If the 7th ecumenical council were held today I’m sure Anglicans would also agree to that.
Zoomer, I had a dream about you last night where the KingdomCraft texture looked weird and you made an addition to the jungle base by going into creative mode and pasting in an entire structure at once. And there was something (villagers maybe, but I can exactly remember) that had really big surprised eyes that were round instead of square.
I'd love to see you do a video about Hypothetical Universalism and trace its roots from Augustine to Davenant. You've mentioned it before, I just think it would be cool if it had its own video
If the Presbyterians ‘put it into practice’, is that why the Scottish Presbyterians are associated with missions around the world (more than the Dutch Reformed and Swiss Reformed)?
Bruh, that sabbath remark against the Dutch reformed is almost blasphemous. Ill say that the crc is quite loose but any more conservative church will not allow for any lack of obeservance on the sabbath. In our church you put under church discipline if you dont should for both services over a certain period of time. Yes in traditional Dutch reformed churches we have 2 services every Sunday, ive never been to a Presbyterian church that had 2. As well, Dutch reformed believe in 3 church offices, ministers, elders and deacons, where as Presbyterians have 2 offices.
My church, part of the Sovereign Grace Churches denomination, is... 1 - confessional, affirming the Sovereign Grace Statement of Faith and the 1689 confession 2 - Covenantal, affirming the Covenant of Grace spanning all of history and denying dispensationalism, 3 - Calvinist in soteriology, affirming all "5 points" 4 - presbyterian in polity, having a book of church order and inter-congregational governance and ordination 5 - affirms spiritual real presence in the sacraments So, Zoomer, you're telling me, considering all of that, we're not Reformed because we disagree about when and to whom Baptism should be applied? Or can you admit that "Reformed Baptist" while possibly overused, is a legitimate category?
I strongly agree with you that it should be considered as a truly Reformed denomination, just with disagreement on baptism. It's not like RZ makes the rules on it so if you and I want, we can of course consider Reformed Baptists as truly reformed.
@RyderLComics I know RZ doesn't make the rules and I'm not looking to him as the arbiter of all things Reformed haha. I also know "Reformed" is one of the most overused and ambiguous words in the modern Church. I'm simply proposing a thought experiment questioning Zoomer's strict gatekeeping of the "Reformed" label based on paedobaptism as a make-or-break item.
Not only do “reformed baptists” not have a Reformed view of the sacraments, but they don’t have a Reformed view of covenant theology either. The Baptist “covenant” theology separates the old and new covenants in such a way that they are two separate covenants, whereas the Reformed view sees them as two different administrations of the same covenant. You can’t hold to Reformed Covenant theology and be Credo-Baptist. I feel the more appropriate title is Particular Baptist.
@logankolarick1646 The Reformed Baptist perspective on the Covenant, as far as I understand it, is the Covenant of Grace being promised from the time of Adam and fulfilled at the time of Christ, and the Covenant of Works being a lesser Covenant to usher in the Covenant of Grace. The Covenant of Grace is the prevailing theme and purpose of the entire Bible. It is just not established until the coming of Christ. A different (and I would argue more biblical) brand of Covenant Theology than that of Westminster and the like, yes, but still Covenant Theology, and therefore still Reformed.
Hi I know it’s a shot in the dark and you probably won’t see this but I was wondering if you could make a video talking about the supposed “decline” in Christianity that everyone is talking about. I get conflicting views on it and I would love to see your beliefs on the matter. A comment would also be ok.
Love your channel brother. I challenge you to not study any theology for a month, but just lay on your face before the Lord in your devotional time. Pray, meditate, and talk to God like you’re His child. It’s fun to get lost in the weeds, but sometimes you have to simply be a worshipper in spirit and truth. Don’t forget that salvation is knowing God, not simply knowing about God and the history of His church.
Also, side note…Infant baptism isn’t biblical and deep down you know it :) That’s why you hate on baptists so much lol it’s the same reason Arminians hate on Calvinists online 24/7. They’re coping because they won’t submit to scripture.
Hey Redeemed Zoomer, I have a question. You've said before you were a math major before you went into theology. Have you considered discussing on your channel the philosophy of mathematics, especially how it relates to Christian philosophy, and God's perfection?
@@antoniopinheiro8485 If its the one 'Proving God exists using math', I know that one, but I assume as a math major he can explore subject much deeper than he did in the video.
Check out the conversion story of Patty Bonds. James White’s sister….. it’s very interesting. Talks about how tiny their denomination was when they were the pastor’s kids. Offers some insight on probably the most respected RB pastor/debater out there.
Can you please do a video about nostalgia? Is there a Christian way we can approach precious childhood memories, but at the same time not cling onto the past and long to go back? I've been thinking about the TV show Jessie lately and I keep thinking about the untimely death of Cameron Boyce and I keep wishing to go back to the "good ol' times". Same goes for Mr. Young and the fact that I grew a crush on this girl named Echo despite the fact that the actress is 10 years older than me. Additionally, I think making a Kingdomcraft video about nostalgia would be perfect since we have nostalgic memories of Minecraft. So, yeah, I request a video about a Christian way to approach nostalgia. I should also note that I'm currently 17yo in my senior year and I still have some time left to be a teenager and I've simply been looking back on my childhood. And remember to talk about how all ages have their ups and downs and their isn’t really such a thing as a “golden age”, although it is true some eras are objectively better than others. And sin and death are prevalent in every age.
Well, there's a mix, I think. I think it's good to recognize what we've been given, and be thankful. But it's possible to have too much nostalgia-Ecclesiastes 7:10 talks about this. The most important thing is to look towards where we're going: the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21). That's where our inheritance is. (I don't really know what I'm talking about, so treat this more as things to consider than as things to consider than as some authoritative answer.)
Theyre great churches, you'd be welcome at anyone. Grew up going to the Deep River Congregation in Connecticut. People just call themselves Protestants around here. Stop by any time. Have a great day, God bless you.
Also...infant baptism is not explicitly commanded in scripture.....how are we not adhering to the regulative principle??? Even read Sam Waldron's book on the regulative principle??
I find it hard to talk about Polity because (outside of big denominations like Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) many denominations seem to blur the lines between two different types (usually a mix of lowercase-p presbyterian and congregationalist, but very occasionally a mix of presbyterian and episcopalian )
Redeemed Zoomer Please make a video on Christian art that would be cool! Also Christian Churches need big beautiful Clocks again because Christians invented clocks spread the word please! ✝️
I'm Protestant but have been looking into Orthodoxy recently. and honestly Orthodoxy is the most beautiful thing. However I'm a bit confused about the whole "praying to Mother Mary and the saints" thing. it says in John 14:13-14 (NIV): “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” In 1 Timothy 2:5 (NIV): “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” I respect the saints and Mother Mary very much. I think it's very important to look up to and learn from them; to respect them. But I don’t understand why we must pray to them to pray for us. Doesn’t the bible say Jesus ALONE is the mediator between God and man? Shouldn’t we be praying to Jesus because He alone is our advocate? also I don’t get the whole idea of having icons. it is not mentioned in the bible for all i know. someone please explain this to me 😭🙏🏼 i'd love to know
Question, is it impossible for a credo-baptist to ever be reformed in your view? (Assuming all other views align with reformed theology) if so, what should “reformed baptists” call themselves?
@@gavinstroup9261 Baptists will never ne reformed unless they be presbyterian. As much as I like r c sproul I think it was a huge,rather great mistake that he combined dispensational,non baptizing babies,baptists. Huge mistake. Because they think they are reformed just because they believe in calvin's view of predestination.
@@diegocorea4613 RC Sproul was Presbyterian, no? Also my statement about (assuming all other views align with reformed theology) would include covenant theology, real spiritual presence and the like.
@@gavinstroup9261 Yes sir,I'm saying that even though he was presbyterian he make a huge mistake minimizing reformed theology in just 5 point calvinism.
Well, it depends what you mean by free will. If you just mean, "I do what I want," well, I see no reason to think that that's wrong-just what I want is shaped by my own sinful, fallen, nature. If you mean, "my choices aren't determined by anything, not even anything within me," well, I don't think we have that, and am glad I don't have that-my choices are mine because they flow from me. If you mean, "I'm able to turn to God on my own," I don't think we have that (see Ephesians 2, where we're dead in our sins), but then we are made alive, by the grace of God. So in short, I don't really have a problem with God predestining us. Just because God's in control of everything doesn't mean I'm not still doing what I want. If God had predestined me to hell, then I would never have turned to him, because I'd follow my own will, and my own, fallen, will would lead me away from God.
I'd never really heard of them, but I went and looked at their website. Overall, their statement of faith looks pretty decent, but it seems like their main thing is thinking that people should follow the Jewish laws. I think the New Testament is pretty clear that those no longer are required. It talks about this in Acts 15, and Paul talks about it a bunch of times-see especially Galatians, Romans, and Ephesians.
Christ is the image of the invisible God. If images of God are wrong, then the incarnation is wrong. God will be imaged in Christ for all eternity, so get used to seeing an image of God. You also are made in that image. I never understood using Exodus 20:4 for this because it’s not even talking about making images of God, it’s talking about created things (fish, birds, animals, angels), and even then God explicitly commands them to weave angels into the tapestries and beat golden angels and almond blossoms and more.
Baptists come out from the Puritans, who are all Reformed. They are in your family tree even if you don't like it. The Puritans were a catchall term by Anglicans (Who aren't Reformed or *Roman* Catholic, and are not compatible with Calvinism which they rejected, and led to the Great Ejection, which is why large numbers of Calvinists came to America to start with) which covered Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Baptists, and others who are mostly extinct now. They are just as close to you as Congregationalists are. Anglicans never held to Calvinism. One of the Homilies is literally on forfeiting salvation which Reformed Theology denies can happen. The very first prayer book by Thomas Cranmer affirms Baptismal Regeneration of all who are Baptized and the threat of falling from the faith. They were, and are, much closer to Lutherans. The word "Anglican" was literally coined as those who were not Calvinists.
I attend an Anglican church and believe you can (actually) lose your salvation. But nevertheless I can't see too much in that homily that RZ would actually disagree with. If you listen to his take on "losing your salvation", he does think people can be in a state of "evanescent grace" which is initially indistinguishable from actually being saved: you can only tell the difference by your faith withstanding trials. I can't see anything in that homily inconsistent with that view.
@@IamGrimalkin The 39 Articles also say one can commit deadly sin that is unpardonable and fall from grace. The Puritans wanted it rewritten, and it was denied. "evanescent grace" is hogwash, entirely missing from the Bible, which is used to support the Schrödinger's salvation that the Reformed push. God does not trick people into thinking they are saved. It leads to less assurance since you can't ever tell if you have real grace or fake grace, who is to say that God didn't write in the Zoomers story that he converts to Hinduism on his death bed and goes to hell? Whoops, turns out it was fake grace the whole time. On the flip side it also leads to people living in unrepentant sin, but thinking they are fine since they still want to follow God.
Reformed baptist aren't reformed?? 1689 London Baptist Cinfession is historical. And no....we are covenant theologians and aren't in anyway dispensational!!! So...reformed baptists aren't reformed??? Says you!!
With regard to the regulative principle, if tradition is so important to you, why discard the ancient hymns of the Church which have always been sung in the Liturgy, such as the "Gloria," "Sanctus," "Agnus Dei," "Kyrie Eleison," and all of the other ancient hymns? These songs are organic compositions by the living Church, and discarding them is anathematizing the life of the Church itself. I hope that some Protestants (outside of Anglicanism) still profess and sing these hymns. The fact that most Protestants don't recite the Creed in their Liturgy is perhaps the greatest travesty of all.
I think some Lutherans still use some of those as well, but I could be wrong. Reciting the creed is more common-I've been to churches that do it regularly. I will say that it's silly to say that "discarding them is anathematizing the life of the Church itself"-not singing a song is not the same as condemning doing so. And it's wrong to set up a man-made rule like that-consider how Jesus treats the Pharisees.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v Having rules about which hymns should be sung is not pharisaical. If that were the case, then the regulative principle would be pharisaical.
@@WanderingThief I don't understand how you are using 'irrevocably'. I don't think there's any rule against it. I'm not familiar with what the reasoning was for more radical liturgical changes among the reformers. I think the rule I'd go by is that it's wrong to add more than what scripture (plus reason) command. Proponents of the regulative principle think that they get that from scripture. They could be wrong on that, of course-if that's the case, they should stop requiring it. What the pharisees did was add extra commands beyond scripture, of their own making.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v Ok, well you have a problem here, because that would mean that the apostles were pharisaical. There are no real prescriptions in the Bible for how exactly the Christian liturgy is to be officiated. Hence, the liturgies were passed down through extra biblical tradition. If using sources outside the Bible as a rule for worship is pharisaical, then the most ancient Christian liturgies are pharisaical. We know that tradition informed the liturgy because we have liturgical documents (like St. Melito of Sardis’ “On Pascha,” 160-170 AD) from the earliest days. I was using “irrevocable” to mean “changed so that it can’t be changed again.”
RZ, you’d be ashamed of one of the PCA churches by me in Chicago. You’d never know it was Presbyterian unless you dug deep on their website. Generic, lowest-common-denominator, non-denominational garbage lingo on their site and zero liturgy.
Redeemed Zoomer I know you'll probably never read this comment but I would like to say this. You made me Christian i'm 14 i'm gonna be 15 in 4 days 1 year ago more or less I was a full blown Richard Dawkins style atheist then I stumbled upon your denominations video I grew facinated then watched your other stuff and you convinced me of God existing. Now i'm reading the bible and soon will start going to church thank you.Without your videos I would have never been Christian.You've made me a better person.
Praise be to God! God bless you stay strong in your faith!
Yay! Praise God! Glad to have you!
ALL ETERNAL GLORY AND ETERNAL PRAISE TO GOD THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT FOR GUIDING HIM/HER TO JESUS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER AMEN AND HALLELUJAH 🔥🙏✝️❤️🔥
There still time to turn back to the one true Sun God.
@@J4ximus1776 God bless, thank you for telling me. Soli Deo Gloria!
As a Presbyterian, I can confirm that we are in fact stuck
to add to your point on Reformed Baptists, it's important to note that the term Reformed Baptist is also relatively modern. They were historically called Particular Baptist for holding to particular redemption (limited atonement)
This is true
Or Primitive Baptist
@@Agatha1etaI believe Primitive Baptist is a different thing. They have some similarities to Reformed Baptists, but there’s some big differences.
Today I learned that all Presbyterians are stuck
real
They need WD-40.
The real mission of Operation Reconquista -- Getting The Presbyterians Unstuck From Somewhere
Help me step bro
@@jasonpark1556 What the flip
Nothing like a fresh kingdom craft episode to watch while eating my lunch
Me rn:
Exactly
Thank you Redeemed Zoomer for all of your videos!
You helped me secure my faith in Christianity and the Bible!
Zoomer videos are great for putting my son to bed. Not even joking. I’ll just watch a Kingdom Craft video while rocking him to sleep. This kid is gonna be theologically saturated
Interesting how you stated that dutch reformed theologians tend to be less strict on the sabbath than presbyterians.
I myself am dutch reformed and still undecided on the sabbath. Will you ever do a kingdom cract video on whether the sabbath is still mandatory for christians today? I believe John Calvin believed is wasn’t.
I already know this is gonna be a w video based on that intro
I choose to call myself Reformed because I constantly move and sometimes I cannot always find a Presbyterian Church that shares my traditional values that’s close to where I live. Therefore I go by my theology rather than my personal belief in a Presbyterian polity. If there’s a close Anglican Church, I’ll go there, if there’s a close Baptist church, I’ll go there, if there’s a close Presbyterian church, I’ll go there.
15:41 Bl. John Duns Scotus is not called “Scotus” because of Scotland. That is a common misconception. “Scotus” was a medieval term that was applied to all non-Welsh celts in the British Isles. Historians are divided on whether Bl. John Duns Scotus was Irish or Scottish.
For example, there is another medieval philosopher named John Scotus Eriugena who was Irish.
Also, historians debate whether the name “Duns” refers to Duns, Scotland or Duns the Irish name meaning “fort.”
The Catholic Encyclopedia has an excellent article on this.
Last Video of RZ: i was wrong about baptist, i'm sorry dor bashing you.
New vid of RZ: start to bash Reformed baptist
Like a dog returns to its vomit
He is not bashing, he is saying that 'Reformed Baptist' is mistaken. If you think RZ is bad, wait till you read what John Calvin said about opposition to infant baptism.
14:24 So the reason I disagree with the position of "no drums electric guitar etc" in church is the Psalm 100 where we make "a joyful noise unto the Lord". Now I know this has been argued that u shouldnt do that with drums due to the pagan practices that invovle drums. Also psalm 98 as well. I agree its a shame we dont play trad hymns in church anymore but I dont think there's anything wrong with doing a trad version of How great Thou Art with a guitar and drum accompaniment. Ironically there was a YT channel that recently did a video of "Can CCM artists name these hymns?" and they were ALL IN CCM STYLE. It's like "Dude that's not challenging. Give them the trad version and see if they can name it"
There used to be arguments that pipes were too entrancing and a tool of the devil. I think it’s pretty hard to make an absolute case of any exact instrument being one way or another.
Yeah.
@davidfitzpatrick6535
Also Colosseans 3:16 and Ephesians 5:18-19.
Both list "psalms and hymns and spiritual songs" next to each other - as distinctint things, so you can't say that _only psalms_ are valid hymns and spiritual songs. Not just psalms, but also other songs.
And what's more - Paul affirms that when we partake in those, we can be filled with spirit, the Word of God can dwell in us.
So exclusive psalmody is a human teaching trying to be even more strict than the Bible requires you to. Excessive legalism IMHO. But I might be wrong...
10/10 intro.
Redeemed zoomer could you do a video of all great presbyterians theologians in order to us that we search them and studied them?
😂But are all Presbyterians squares?😂
At least on the KingdomCraft server.
Hello redeemed zoomer! I really like your videos even though I am Muslim but the way you give the info is so nice and simple and I've noticed that there's many similarities between both Islam and Christianitys
I have a bit of questions tho
Is the kingdom craft server open? I really want to play it
What's your favorite food (I KNOW ITS RANDOM BUT IM CURIOUS)
That's my only questions lol, I really want to tell you that you're a very good RUclipsr and you should keep it up dude
I think he said sushi previously if he doesnt answer this
You should look into Christianity more! There are certainly things in common, but the biggest difference is in the view of what Jesus came to do. Anyway, have a great day!
God is truly glorious. I used to be lukewarm and doubting but a year ago He led me to Him. Jesus can save you even though you don’t deserve it! Go to Jesus God is truly good and righteous may the Holy Spirit guide you.
As for Anglicanism,
The Church of England, as you said, is historically Calvinist and has always been friends with other reformed denominations. We even had a Dutch Reformed king once, William III. But the Church never dogmatically asserted Calvinism specifically, only protestantism, so has always tolerated Lutheran ideas, especially due to having a long line of Lutheran kings, and also became open to Wesleyan ideas after he broke away. This large variety of ideas is what allowed the Anglo-Catholics to emerge in modern times, though Cranmer and Cromwell probably would have recoiled at their existence
I assume this is Thomas Cromwell, not Oliver Cromwell, that you have in mind here?
@@user-dc7im7cy4v I meant Thomas, but both would be true!
The Dutch also have a rich tradition of practical theology and Sabbath observance. If you look at Ursinus and Olevianus, they were essentially in agreement with the Presbyterians. Read any of the many sermons preached on the Heidelberg Catechism and you'll quickly see that the supposed differences on the Sabbath and practical theology are practically nonexistent. Also, while the Dutch historically don't practice exclusive psalmody, they are so close that the difference is almost negligible. the difference is that Presbyterians historically sing ONLY the psalms whereas the Dutch sing only the psalms and other passages of scripture set to music (typically the Ten Commandments and the songs of Mary, Zechariah, and Simeon). It's the latter view which was held by John Calvin and the church in Geneva. The best defense of this view is in chapter 7 of "Recovering the Reformed Confession: Our Theology, Piety, and Practice" by R. Scott Clark.
Ursinus and Olevianus were German, not Dutch.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v I know that, but the Heidelberg Catechism (written by Ursinus and Olevianus) is an essential piece of the Dutch Reformed tradition (that much was solidified in less than a century after the Reformation). The legacy of their theology lives on in the Dutch churches.
@Redemned Zoomer I need to correct you on something. You said that Reformed baptists weren’t reformed because they don’t believe in the real presence and or pedobaptism and yet you say that the Puritan Congregationalists are reformed because they do accept infant baptism. However, if you read the Savoy Declaration of 1658 which is the first Puritan Congregationalist confession of faith it says nothing about “the presence”. So does that make it truly reformed on your view? I think that there an issue with how you are defining “reformed”. It seems on your view, the defining characteristic of being reformed is infant baptism which cannot work in my view.
Great video brother!!!
Also, anecdotal, but my Dad grew up Dutch Reformed and his community was INCREDIBLY strict on the sabbath. As a child he was once spanked for ASKING to ride a bike for fun on the sabbath.
The ones that vote SGP?
I’m Anglican and hold to double predestination, I know many others in the Church of England that hold to it as well.
It has its basis from St Augustine
Predestination is biblical and predates Calvinism.
If the 7th ecumenical council were held today I’m sure Anglicans would also agree to that.
Another good video. Keep crafting brother ❤
RZ pls never stop making kingdomcraft episodes!!!
Finally he puts the best presbyterian city on the server in the thumbnail.
This is something I really was interested to know. Thank you.
Catholic vs the Pope
It's frightening when the answer to the rhetorical question "Is the Pope Catholic?" suddenly becomes "No."
@@James_Wisniewski it’s frightening isn’t it?
@@James_WisniewskiThe heresy of sedevacantism in a nutshell
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xhHow is it heresy.
@@Sir_Musy It’s a joke.
Zoomer, I had a dream about you last night where the KingdomCraft texture looked weird and you made an addition to the jungle base by going into creative mode and pasting in an entire structure at once. And there was something (villagers maybe, but I can exactly remember) that had really big surprised eyes that were round instead of square.
I'd love to see you do a video about Hypothetical Universalism and trace its roots from Augustine to Davenant. You've mentioned it before, I just think it would be cool if it had its own video
Don’t care Baptists on top 💯
Baptist uprising ☝
If the Presbyterians ‘put it into practice’, is that why the Scottish Presbyterians are associated with missions around the world (more than the Dutch Reformed and Swiss Reformed)?
Yes
The intro was solid gold
Watching you place those planks over coal physically hurt me
Opinion on the Free Presbyterian Church?
You mean the NI one?
I don’t know about you but classical Irish and Scottish music goes hard !🔥
Bruh, that sabbath remark against the Dutch reformed is almost blasphemous. Ill say that the crc is quite loose but any more conservative church will not allow for any lack of obeservance on the sabbath. In our church you put under church discipline if you dont should for both services over a certain period of time. Yes in traditional Dutch reformed churches we have 2 services every Sunday, ive never been to a Presbyterian church that had 2. As well, Dutch reformed believe in 3 church offices, ministers, elders and deacons, where as Presbyterians have 2 offices.
I grew up 90's CRC and we were strict on the Sabbath. It's slipped quite a bit.
nice, if I weren't a confessional baptist I would be Presbyterian
God bless RZ
My church, part of the Sovereign Grace Churches denomination, is...
1 - confessional, affirming the Sovereign Grace Statement of Faith and the 1689 confession
2 - Covenantal, affirming the Covenant of Grace spanning all of history and denying dispensationalism,
3 - Calvinist in soteriology, affirming all "5 points"
4 - presbyterian in polity, having a book of church order and inter-congregational governance and ordination
5 - affirms spiritual real presence in the sacraments
So, Zoomer, you're telling me, considering all of that, we're not Reformed because we disagree about when and to whom Baptism should be applied? Or can you admit that "Reformed Baptist" while possibly overused, is a legitimate category?
I strongly agree with you that it should be considered as a truly Reformed denomination, just with disagreement on baptism. It's not like RZ makes the rules on it so if you and I want, we can of course consider Reformed Baptists as truly reformed.
Does your denomination believe the sacraments are effectual means of salvation? If so can you provide evidence?
@RyderLComics I know RZ doesn't make the rules and I'm not looking to him as the arbiter of all things Reformed haha. I also know "Reformed" is one of the most overused and ambiguous words in the modern Church. I'm simply proposing a thought experiment questioning Zoomer's strict gatekeeping of the "Reformed" label based on paedobaptism as a make-or-break item.
Not only do “reformed baptists” not have a Reformed view of the sacraments, but they don’t have a Reformed view of covenant theology either.
The Baptist “covenant” theology separates the old and new covenants in such a way that they are two separate covenants, whereas the Reformed view sees them as two different administrations of the same covenant. You can’t hold to Reformed Covenant theology and be Credo-Baptist.
I feel the more appropriate title is Particular Baptist.
@logankolarick1646 The Reformed Baptist perspective on the Covenant, as far as I understand it, is the Covenant of Grace being promised from the time of Adam and fulfilled at the time of Christ, and the Covenant of Works being a lesser Covenant to usher in the Covenant of Grace. The Covenant of Grace is the prevailing theme and purpose of the entire Bible. It is just not established until the coming of Christ. A different (and I would argue more biblical) brand of Covenant Theology than that of Westminster and the like, yes, but still Covenant Theology, and therefore still Reformed.
I can't believe the potato router finally made it in a video!
Go Dutch Reform!
So you can believe in all theology and practice on reformation, but not baptize children so then you aren't reformed?
In a sense. But true Reformed are those who Reformed further. So believers Baptism would actually be more Reformed.
Yes
No Baptist are not reformed and there is no such thing as true reformed as you are either reformed or you are not.
@@Gift-ll4nv Yes
@@Gift-ll4nv It's true.
So we're just ignoring the baptist confession of 1689 and John Bunyan.
Hi I know it’s a shot in the dark and you probably won’t see this but I was wondering if you could make a video talking about the supposed “decline” in Christianity that everyone is talking about.
I get conflicting views on it and I would love to see your beliefs on the matter.
A comment would also be ok.
Greetings and blessings from Dutch reformed guy
This was difficult for me to watch. I need the captions, but got kinda dizzy with the Minecraft.😢
Love your channel brother. I challenge you to not study any theology for a month, but just lay on your face before the Lord in your devotional time. Pray, meditate, and talk to God like you’re His child. It’s fun to get lost in the weeds, but sometimes you have to simply be a worshipper in spirit and truth. Don’t forget that salvation is knowing God, not simply knowing about God and the history of His church.
Also, side note…Infant baptism isn’t biblical and deep down you know it :) That’s why you hate on baptists so much lol it’s the same reason Arminians hate on Calvinists online 24/7. They’re coping because they won’t submit to scripture.
Hey can u make a video on understanding denominations on Pentecostal or Methodist?
Hey Redeemed Zoomer, I have a question.
You've said before you were a math major before you went into theology. Have you considered discussing on your channel the philosophy of mathematics, especially how it relates to Christian philosophy, and God's perfection?
He has a vídeo on that
@@antoniopinheiro8485 If its the one 'Proving God exists using math', I know that one, but I assume as a math major he can explore subject much deeper than he did in the video.
Check out the conversion story of Patty Bonds. James White’s sister….. it’s very interesting. Talks about how tiny their denomination was when they were the pastor’s kids. Offers some insight on probably the most respected RB pastor/debater out there.
Can you please do a video about nostalgia? Is there a Christian way we can approach precious childhood memories, but at the same time not cling onto the past and long to go back? I've been thinking about the TV show Jessie lately and I keep thinking about the untimely death of Cameron Boyce and I keep wishing to go back to the "good ol' times". Same goes for Mr. Young and the fact that I grew a crush on this girl named Echo despite the fact that the actress is 10 years older than me.
Additionally, I think making a Kingdomcraft video about nostalgia would be perfect since we have nostalgic memories of Minecraft.
So, yeah, I request a video about a Christian way to approach nostalgia. I should also note that I'm currently 17yo in my senior year and I still have some time left to be a teenager and I've simply been looking back on my childhood. And remember to talk about how all ages have their ups and downs and their isn’t really such a thing as a “golden age”, although it is true some eras are objectively better than others. And sin and death are prevalent in every age.
Well, there's a mix, I think. I think it's good to recognize what we've been given, and be thankful. But it's possible to have too much nostalgia-Ecclesiastes 7:10 talks about this. The most important thing is to look towards where we're going: the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21). That's where our inheritance is. (I don't really know what I'm talking about, so treat this more as things to consider than as things to consider than as some authoritative answer.)
If I lived in New England, I would probably be a Congregationalist.
Theyre great churches, you'd be welcome at anyone. Grew up going to the Deep River Congregation in Connecticut. People just call themselves Protestants around here. Stop by any time. Have a great day, God bless you.
How am I supposed to "praise Him with cymbals" if the church music doesn't include drums 🫠
Also...infant baptism is not explicitly commanded in scripture.....how are we not adhering to the regulative principle??? Even read Sam Waldron's book on the regulative principle??
I find it hard to talk about Polity because (outside of big denominations like Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) many denominations seem to blur the lines between two different types (usually a mix of lowercase-p presbyterian and congregationalist, but very occasionally a mix of presbyterian and episcopalian )
Redeemed Zoomer Please make a video on Christian art that would be cool! Also Christian Churches need big beautiful Clocks again because Christians invented clocks spread the word please! ✝️
I would call myself a Reformed Methodist now.
I am Eastern Evangelical (in the Western Christian theology) now! Lol.
That seems a bit of a contradiction. Aren't Methodists Arminian?
"I'm a protestant catholic" lol
I thought some were Calvinist also.
@@amtc4ihs2005 to be fair, most believers fall somewhere in between the 2 positions. However, I believe Methodists are doctrinally Arminian.
Reformed cat Fr
Indeed Presbyterians preach the best.
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I'm Protestant but have been looking into Orthodoxy recently. and honestly Orthodoxy is the most beautiful thing. However I'm a bit confused about the whole "praying to Mother Mary and the saints" thing.
it says in John 14:13-14 (NIV): “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.”
In 1 Timothy 2:5 (NIV): “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.”
I respect the saints and Mother Mary very much. I think it's very important to look up to and learn from them; to respect them. But I don’t understand why we must pray to them to pray for us. Doesn’t the bible say Jesus ALONE is the mediator between God and man? Shouldn’t we be praying to Jesus because He alone is our advocate?
also I don’t get the whole idea of having icons. it is not mentioned in the bible for all i know.
someone please explain this to me 😭🙏🏼 i'd love to know
Question, is it impossible for a credo-baptist to ever be reformed in your view? (Assuming all other views align with reformed theology) if so, what should “reformed baptists” call themselves?
They used to be called particular baptists so probably that
@@gavinstroup9261 Baptists will never ne reformed unless they be presbyterian. As much as I like r c sproul I think it was a huge,rather great mistake that he combined dispensational,non baptizing babies,baptists. Huge mistake. Because they think they are reformed just because they believe in calvin's view of predestination.
@@Weavileiscool Yes,particular baptists not reformed.
@@diegocorea4613 RC Sproul was Presbyterian, no? Also my statement about (assuming all other views align with reformed theology) would include covenant theology, real spiritual presence and the like.
@@gavinstroup9261 Yes sir,I'm saying that even though he was presbyterian he make a huge mistake minimizing reformed theology in just 5 point calvinism.
how do you maintain the reality of freewill while upholding the notion that God could have predestined you for hell?
Well, it depends what you mean by free will.
If you just mean, "I do what I want," well, I see no reason to think that that's wrong-just what I want is shaped by my own sinful, fallen, nature.
If you mean, "my choices aren't determined by anything, not even anything within me," well, I don't think we have that, and am glad I don't have that-my choices are mine because they flow from me.
If you mean, "I'm able to turn to God on my own," I don't think we have that (see Ephesians 2, where we're dead in our sins), but then we are made alive, by the grace of God.
So in short, I don't really have a problem with God predestining us. Just because God's in control of everything doesn't mean I'm not still doing what I want. If God had predestined me to hell, then I would never have turned to him, because I'd follow my own will, and my own, fallen, will would lead me away from God.
Did he do some off camera mining or did I just ignore the part where he got those diamonds?
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Hey zoomer, i’d love a vid debunking hebrew roots, especially 119 Ministries on RUclips
I'd never really heard of them, but I went and looked at their website. Overall, their statement of faith looks pretty decent, but it seems like their main thing is thinking that people should follow the Jewish laws. I think the New Testament is pretty clear that those no longer are required. It talks about this in Acts 15, and Paul talks about it a bunch of times-see especially Galatians, Romans, and Ephesians.
Christ is the image of the invisible God. If images of God are wrong, then the incarnation is wrong. God will be imaged in Christ for all eternity, so get used to seeing an image of God. You also are made in that image.
I never understood using Exodus 20:4 for this because it’s not even talking about making images of God, it’s talking about created things (fish, birds, animals, angels), and even then God explicitly commands them to weave angels into the tapestries and beat golden angels and almond blossoms and more.
do a video about the Normative and regulative principle of worship Pls!
All Presbyterians are stuck-
Particular Baptist heritage is Congregationalist by and large from my understanding.
7 day timeout for speaking Romanian. Man, your discord moderation is waaaaaaaack
Yes, I said how.
The lag is crazy
Bruoh, do you speed up prerecorded voice, or do you mix your coffee with Red Bull?
Nothing sped up while I’m talking
He is speaking at a normal pace
@@redeemedzoomer6053Recently I've been catching up on the older vids, thus, I might be unused a little😅 Good job and thank you for your work!
Baptists come out from the Puritans, who are all Reformed. They are in your family tree even if you don't like it. The Puritans were a catchall term by Anglicans (Who aren't Reformed or *Roman* Catholic, and are not compatible with Calvinism which they rejected, and led to the Great Ejection, which is why large numbers of Calvinists came to America to start with) which covered Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Baptists, and others who are mostly extinct now. They are just as close to you as Congregationalists are.
Anglicans never held to Calvinism. One of the Homilies is literally on forfeiting salvation which Reformed Theology denies can happen. The very first prayer book by Thomas Cranmer affirms Baptismal Regeneration of all who are Baptized and the threat of falling from the faith. They were, and are, much closer to Lutherans.
The word "Anglican" was literally coined as those who were not Calvinists.
That is false. R. Scott Clark has an excellent series on his blog. Look it up. You are wrong - even if you don't like it.
@@nonameguy4441 Which part are you claiming is false?
I attend an Anglican church and believe you can (actually) lose your salvation.
But nevertheless I can't see too much in that homily that RZ would actually disagree with. If you listen to his take on "losing your salvation", he does think people can be in a state of "evanescent grace" which is initially indistinguishable from actually being saved: you can only tell the difference by your faith withstanding trials.
I can't see anything in that homily inconsistent with that view.
@@IamGrimalkin The 39 Articles also say one can commit deadly sin that is unpardonable and fall from grace. The Puritans wanted it rewritten, and it was denied.
"evanescent grace" is hogwash, entirely missing from the Bible, which is used to support the Schrödinger's salvation that the Reformed push. God does not trick people into thinking they are saved.
It leads to less assurance since you can't ever tell if you have real grace or fake grace, who is to say that God didn't write in the Zoomers story that he converts to Hinduism on his death bed and goes to hell? Whoops, turns out it was fake grace the whole time.
On the flip side it also leads to people living in unrepentant sin, but thinking they are fine since they still want to follow God.
Puritans called themselves Professors (of the word) as well.
Please stop mining dirt with your non-shovel tools. It's maddening
Can we get some more comic sans style videos. kingdom craft is cool too but it’s like most of your videos now.
Dang Zoomer is still making content for us monkeys
Reformed baptist aren't reformed?? 1689 London Baptist Cinfession is historical. And no....we are covenant theologians and aren't in anyway dispensational!!! So...reformed baptists aren't reformed??? Says you!!
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With regard to the regulative principle, if tradition is so important to you, why discard the ancient hymns of the Church which have always been sung in the Liturgy, such as the "Gloria," "Sanctus," "Agnus Dei," "Kyrie Eleison," and all of the other ancient hymns? These songs are organic compositions by the living Church, and discarding them is anathematizing the life of the Church itself. I hope that some Protestants (outside of Anglicanism) still profess and sing these hymns. The fact that most Protestants don't recite the Creed in their Liturgy is perhaps the greatest travesty of all.
I think some Lutherans still use some of those as well, but I could be wrong. Reciting the creed is more common-I've been to churches that do it regularly.
I will say that it's silly to say that "discarding them is anathematizing the life of the Church itself"-not singing a song is not the same as condemning doing so. And it's wrong to set up a man-made rule like that-consider how Jesus treats the Pharisees.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v Perhaps that is hyperbolic, but if you have a liturgical tradition inherited from the Church Fathers, why irrevocably change it?
@@user-dc7im7cy4v Having rules about which hymns should be sung is not pharisaical. If that were the case, then the regulative principle would be pharisaical.
@@WanderingThief I don't understand how you are using 'irrevocably'.
I don't think there's any rule against it. I'm not familiar with what the reasoning was for more radical liturgical changes among the reformers.
I think the rule I'd go by is that it's wrong to add more than what scripture (plus reason) command. Proponents of the regulative principle think that they get that from scripture. They could be wrong on that, of course-if that's the case, they should stop requiring it. What the pharisees did was add extra commands beyond scripture, of their own making.
@@user-dc7im7cy4v Ok, well you have a problem here, because that would mean that the apostles were pharisaical. There are no real prescriptions in the Bible for how exactly the Christian liturgy is to be officiated. Hence, the liturgies were passed down through extra biblical tradition. If using sources outside the Bible as a rule for worship is pharisaical, then the most ancient Christian liturgies are pharisaical. We know that tradition informed the liturgy because we have liturgical documents (like St. Melito of Sardis’ “On Pascha,” 160-170 AD) from the earliest days. I was using “irrevocable” to mean “changed so that it can’t be changed again.”
I try to be in a middle way between Reformed Anglicans and Anglo-Catholics.
Anglo lutheran?
@@JP-rf8rrIts called being High Church Anglican, or just normal Anglican idk
The via media of the via media
I almost became Anglo-Catholic, but I stayed lutheran.
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Do they hold that you eat Christ's actual body orally?
RZ, you’d be ashamed of one of the PCA churches by me in Chicago. You’d never know it was Presbyterian unless you dug deep on their website. Generic, lowest-common-denominator, non-denominational garbage lingo on their site and zero liturgy.
Orthodoxy vs ancient christianity
can we get a 'how to get a boyfriend' 😀
Im releasing a video soon about what Christian guys look for in a girl.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Aah thank you! Also God bless, I'm very happy to hear from you 😁
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