The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
The attempts to predict its date have always been wild to me. Brother, what part of "like a thief in the night" did you not understand? Live as he has commanded you to. He will come when he is supposed to.
As another Evangelical I'm indifferent about it, wether it happens or not, or wether the Second Coming of Jesus Christ happens now, or in 100 years, we must be ready.
As a former Premil I really appreciate this. I used to lose so much sleep over the End Times but realizing that the Left Behind version of events is unbiblical has given me an immeasurable amount of peace.
I realized that the premil mindset, combined with Southern Baptist presuppositions about retreat from institutional, is precisely why I was irrationally skeptical of all institutions. This was not healthy, helpful, or even biblical, and thus I have changed my ways. Redeemed Zoomer is doing a great service by bringing these points to our attention ✝
@@titus_philemon it's my understanding that that is something that, like a lot of things in the Baptist circles, isn't codified by the organization one way or the other.
@@LTDLimiTeD1995 Every Baptist church will have it written on their "what we believe in" page because every Baptist believe in the rapture. Everyone is free to make their own branch of Christianity, but that's what we Baptists believe in (If you don't, then you are not a Baptist).
I was speaking with an older Christian, who came to Christ during the Jesus Revolution. He describe both himself and others he knew delaying things like getting married and having children because of the many dire eschatological predictions of the time. He really felt that the doomsday obsession killed a lot of the momentum from the Jesus Revolution.
That only makes me want to hurry up .. I don’t wanna be 35 when doomsday happens and I just miss out on that part of life, which is fine since we’ll unite with the greatest buttt I still want a wife and kids and grandkids haha
This is unfortunately a pervasive idea in the boomer generation particularly. It's pop culture Christianity. My parents and their siblings are obsessed with the book of Revelation in a very negative and unhealthy way. They are very focused on the negative, scary stuff, and totally ignore the point of the book: Jesus wins.
I still remember Billy Graham's words about "Time is short." "Time for studying, do it now. Time for evangelizing, do it now. Time for witnessing to someone, do it now." Sometimes, people believing in Rapture affected me thinking that it is not possible to build Kingdom of God and that Kingdom of God are only true, loyal churches that are like God's outposts or bases. Thank you Redeemed Zoomer for inspiring me. May God bless your channel and work. P.s. if it be possible, can you do a video on biblical view of self defense, military and fighting for God and country in the military.
Billy Graham taught subtle works salvation. Repent doesn't mean turning from sin it means changing your mind. God repented in the bible and he without sin, and God views turning from sin as works.
@@reignellwalker9755 I respect your view my brother in Christ, but I disagree with you on what you have said and believe that way of thinking will only divide other brethren in Christ. I invite you to be filled with the Holy Ghost and read this comment with love and patience. May you be blessed by the Holy Ghost. Amen. _______________________________ If you believe that salvation is by faith alone, good. Do not call others false Christians for not believing that, because that belief did not exist till Reformation. As Paul had wrote in his epistles, that we must love each other and not be stumbling block to each other, lest we start war among each other because of things like Sola Fide and Rapture. Please brother, I invite you in good faith in Christ, to think about this. "17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." (James 2:17-24 KJV) It's true that we are saved by faith and that it is a gift from God, the grace from God, but it's not by faith alone. There are two types of deeds: 1)physical -> feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, visit the sick, visit the imprisoned or ransom the captive and bury the dead. 2) spiritual -> instruct the ignorant, counsel the doubtful, admonish the sinners, bear patiently those who wrong us, forgive offenses, comfort the afflicted and pray for the living. These deeds come directly from the Holy Scriptures. I encourage you to take a look for yourself brother. God bless and have a nice day. P.s. I really hope you made it this far, and if you did, that you will comment this peacefully and respectfully as Paul the Apostle had begged us. Our Lord Jesus Christ told us to love each other as He had loved us and still does. Love you brother and pray for me.
@@silvio1894I am not trying to start an argument just challenging you to think. If salvation is not by faith alone that would mean it is partially dependent on ourselves. Which is not the case, salvation is all about Jesus what he has done. He lived the perfect life we could never. Saying that salvation is partly on our works takes away from what Jesus has done. It would also mean that there is a line of amount of works to do to be saved. Which the thief on the cross would have to have crossed the line. A man who did no works was saved on the cross. Salvation is by faith alone so we do not boast. If we are to boast it is only about the Lord and what he has done. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 I wholeheartedly believe if you are saved you will have a desire to go and serve and tell people the gospel and do works. For salvation to be based any our works would be saying what Jesus did on the cross is not enough. Our actions reflect our faith in Christ they affirm it.
@@cadedenton9892 Didn't I paste above the KJV verse that we are not justified by faith alone, but by works? We are saved by faith, but we are justified by works and Paul wrote in his epistle that we should "work for our salvation." From my experience, I know that it is not simply salvation by faith alone. The only situation where it can be by faith alone is that the person who does not have a lot of time on earth left, the only thing he/she could do is to put solely their faith in Christ alone, regarding their situation (old age, medical condition, etc...). God will judge that person for his/her work. We Christian did go from judgement to life by accepting Christ Jesus. But would you say that we are not to be judged for our works because of our faith being justified by work or purely faith alone? I ask because they are two separate concepts. If you say that salvation is purely by faith alone, then what about works? I say: >>We are saved by faith, in Christ Jesus alone and justified by our good works, commanded by our Lord, before our Lord at the Judgement Day.>We are saved by faith, in Christ Jesus alone, and justified by our good works, commanded by our Lord, before our Lord at the Judgement Day.
My general opinion on the matter is that if someone says that the end will be at a certain day/time/week/etc. you can bet it’s not going to be when they say.
My fear is that many might lose faith in times of hardship. They'll expect to be raptured away before persecution. If the Church were to face it, many will fall away.
@@kriegjaeger "And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way (KJV.)" Ok. And... what does this mean?
I believe in the rapture (nondenominational). Couple things I want to clarify from the video is I don’t know anyone that thinks the rapture is a secret or private event. Secondly, the apostle Paul believed in the rapture in 2 Thesolonians. Thirdly, I don’t know anyone that hides because of the rapture but rather they see it as an urgent situation and use it to evangelize more.
Where in 2 Thessalonians does it say he believes in the rapture? I read it all but don’t really see it definitely confirming the rapture specifically vs just talking about the second coming of Christ.
I've heard my pastor preach on the world denying the rapture during the tribulation. But I do agree that not all rapture teaching discourages ignoring the world. Still, this video gets me thinking.
Couldn't have been stated more clearly myself. Thank you Zoomer for outlining the importance of Eschatology and the potential for the misinterpretation thereof to lead to idle hands. Us Christians have the message this world desperately needs and our goal is not to escape this world! We are called to disciple it.
I heard of a guy who fell asleep in church, and then the congregation decided to prank him by leaving a bunch of clothes around where they were sitting and then leave.
As a non denominational, growing up in nd and baptist circles, I appreciate you talking about this. I like that you mention our focus about the second coming should be on christ, not the antichrist; that happens so often, especially online.
I appreciate your style of videos. The Minecraft gameplay keeps my ADHD scatterbrained mind focused and engaged while I absorb the lessons that I actually want in my life. Your explanations are detailed and clear, and if I've ever found a case of fault in your reasoning, it doesn't come to mind. Thanks for these wonderful videos, and keep it coming!
In Time, It Will Be Said About Jacob And Israel, ‘Oh, What ELoHIM Has Done!’ Behold, This People Will Come Out Like A Lion, And Rise Up Like A Lion; It Shall Not Lie Down Until It Devours The Prey, And Drinks The Blood Of The Slain. ~ Numbers 23:23-24 They Go From STrength To StrengTH; Every One Of Them In ZION Appeareth Before ELoHIM. O YEHOVA ELoHIM Of HOSTS, HEAR My PRAYER: GIVE EAR, O ELoHIM Of JACOB. ~ Psalm 84:7-8 The Righteous Is Lost, And There Is No One Who Pays Attention: Good People Are Taken From The World, Without Anyone Knowing, The Righteous Is Taken From The Face Of The Evil. ~ Isaiah 57:1 #RaptureVerse But you children of the witch, the offspring of the adulterer and the harlot, come near to HIM. Who are you mocking, At Whom are you opening your mouth and sticking out your tongue? Are you not a brood of rebels, the offspring of liars? ~ Isaiah 57:3-4 #TheGreatTribulationVerse ‘The Mystery Of The Rapture’ “As In The Days When I Brought You Out Of Egypt, I Will Show Them Miracles.” When The Nations See Those Miracles, They Will No Longer Brag About Their Power. They Will Put Their Hands Over Their Mouths; Their Ears Shall Be Deaf. ~ Micah 7:15-16 Praise YAH, YEHOVA, HalleluYAH;
My thoughts exactly. I believe in the rapture but the fact that we aren't supposed to know the time and date means we have to live our Christian lives as best we can, not to be riddled with anxiety and obsess over when it'll happen
The rapture is our Blessed Hope! The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
i cant speak to them without them going off saying "bu bu but she she is the whore of babylon, bu but the bible says the catholic church is the whore, it says right there!"
Attempt 1 of asking RZ for an analyzation of the top 10 or 15 versions of the Bible, including what versions include or omit what books. (Please include CSB and ESV, those are what I read and I'd like to know how they compare to other versions. I haven't done much research, but I like them because they retain the poetic nature of the Bible, while being worded in a way that makes them easy to understand and, more importantly, smooth to read. I imagine this topic has been covered by others, but I'd like to hear your perspective, since the way you explain things is so clear and you do your research well. Your coverage of denominations has impressed me, and I'm looking forward to more videos from you. Thank you!)
As someone raised Methodist (Salvation Army,) and Presbyterian, and now closest to Baptist, thanks a ton! I came across the infamous "Left Behind" books as a young teen and was taken in by the idea presented. I do feel like sometimes the biggest vocals supporters of it don't know what it is to actually suffer and for it to be incurable (for reference I'm visually impaired,( because it's gets tiring hearing about when I know as a genuine Christian that my earthly disability will be gone the instant I take my last breathe. They also seem to not understand how grief works for nonbelievers, since the authors behind those books acted like the "left behind" loved ones finding thier family member gone would somehow lead them to ask God to forgiveness. Not saying it's impossible, just really unlikely.
> the authors behind those books acted like the "left behind" loved ones finding thier family member gone would somehow lead them to ask God to forgiveness Among a multitude of other reasons, this is perhaps #1 why I don't think the Left Behind series is even a little bit biblical. It demonstrates misunderstanding about the condition of the soul in the context of eschatology / final judgement. People like to think that everyone will turn to Christ once they realize salvation and damnation are real, but we know from scripture that's not true.
3:28 My grandparents fall into this category. They say it’s very important to take God’s promises to Israel in the Old Testament literally, but I’m not sure. I would really appreciate if you made a video about Biblical literalism relating to God’s promises to Israel.
I believe some promises to Israel really are for the nation of Israel and not the church. What does Jesus refer to when He says “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.”? Also isn’t the Antichrist going to rule in Jerusalem?
I’m fairly skeptical of dispensationalism, but I’m not very knowledgeable of the different theological views of Israel and the Jewish people. I think that the promises toward Israel should be taken seriously, particularly because many of those promises were fulfilled in Christ. I also believe that the Church is the spiritual extension of Israel, God’s chosen people including Jews and Gentiles alike. The question is whether non-believing Jews and the State of Israel are part of the spiritual Israel. I suspect the answer is more nuanced than a simple no, and not yes either. I’m inclined to believe that the Jews as a people, including unbelieving Jews, are still blessed by God as descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And I also think the State of Israel still has a big part to play in God’s plan. But I don’t believe that the State of Israel is part of the spiritual Israel, and it is very diseased culturally and politically. It is the Holy Land, but I think the Land of Israel still has a long way to go before it is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord. Still, I think it’s evident in recent history that God has blessed and supported the rise of the Jewish state, despite its immense troubles and afflictions. For whatever reason. And I can’t claim to know that reason.
@@lukeporras1288 You can't claim that God has blessed and supported the rise of the Jewish state. It may be that he has allowed it to occur, or that it is irrelevant.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 Consider the simple fact that He has finally allowed the Jewish people to return to their homeland. That the Jews were essentially given the land. And do I need any other example than the 6 Day War in 1967 when Israel defeated Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, and captured the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza, and the entire Sinai Peninsula, all in 6 days flat? I see it as a clear indication of the hand of God.
Thank you so much for this. The Christians in my family seem to be talking about how the rapture is coming in their lifetime and I’m thinking I must be crazy because I don’t recall ever reading about this in scripture..
Man, this is brilliant. I am inspired to do a similar work in Telugu( a language in south India) after listening to this. Much of church here is disengaged because of rapture theology.
@@eliegbert8121 Church in India is as old as christianity itself. Apostle Thomas entered India via Malabar coast in AD 54.There is a strong Syrian Christian presence ever since but largely muted due to syncretism. And then catholics did a tremendous Job in 14,15 th centuries followed by Danish Lutherans. So, there is a very strong presence of main line denominations which in fact is Modern India's DNA. But American Evangelicalism came around 1960's which introduced word of faith,dispensational theology,..among many others.Indian church then started inward looking and became individualistic. I am a Lutheran myself who tried different churches. Now, I am realising the need for age old whole gospel which can transform India. Persecution is much in North India which is highly illeterate and casteist. It's getting intense with hindu rightwing government and elections around the corner.
A Roman general’s victory parade is a great image of Jesus’ return and our being raptured up to meet Him. Another image and even direct type of this is His triumphal entry. When Jewish people flocked out of Jerusalem to meet Him as He came down from the mountain and then went back into the city with Him. Which is also what you see in Zechariah 14. Personally I am compelled by Scripture to hold the historic premillennial position. Pretrib dispensationalism concerns me, especially in its more extreme forms.
I hate aguing about eschatology, so i refuse to label myself anything, but i generally agree with amillennialism. But historic pre-millennialism is very respectable in my opinion, and really is totally different from dispensational pr-millennialism.
Watch the entire video first before laying down criticisms! Former dispensationalist now Positive Amillennialist, ever since exploring different views and traditions I have now reformed my theology and world views. Redeemed Zoomer doing a great job at showing Borthers and Sisters different views and traditions. God bless
My church (southern baptist) did a 9-month series on Revelation, and throughout they kept an updated "end times timeline" in which the rapture was just assumed to be on there, even though there is nothing in Revelation that suggests a rapture at all.
Cathoilic here, I was pretty surprised that Presbyterians don't believe in raputre. I thought that most of the prostestant churches teach this - but I like to be educated.
Oh my goodness. This is amazing. What you're saying agrees with a completely different youtuber who was talking about this exact issue recently. This view makes so much sense when you actually read the bible. I used to be so confused about the rapture. I vaguely believed it of course but I was too confused to look into it and didn't know where to start. Now I know. Halleluyah!
If anything the rapture theology should encourage us to take creation of churches and education seriously, feels like a mindset of selfishness and fear when in reality the second coming is a final redemption, everything in excess is bad, I like the video. keeping Christ first not the anti christ
Even though I believe in the rapture, the complacency criticism is 100% valid. Everyone at my church is just on pins and needles for it to happen, and there's still work to do. 😢
The problem is that if you believe it or not is that we can’t put the time what’s gonna happen my dad does that He says we have only 10 years…. And I’m like “how do you know that? Did you had a revelation?” So our issue is to add a time and start to do things….i get so pissed when he talks to people about the “10 year time frame” we do not know!!!!
I think you're one of the best theological teachers here. Please keep up the good work and especially thank you for making this video. NGL, I grew up in a church that was rapture and flat earth obsessed. Everything you're saying is absolutely true.
This is an interesting timing for this video to say the least... I'm not as certain about rapture theology as I once was after hearing R C Sproul say that the rapture imagery that I have taken literally may be figurative which would explain why the details of the 1 Thess passage seem different. However evangelicals have also said things about how the national of Israel today is a miracle, so I really don't have a firm opinion anymore.
I have always thought of being a Christian as doing God's work on earth, while we're here in our short lives, as opposed to spreading the word just to "get into" heaven. Also I believe we're all coming back to this earth after the second coming and evil is destroyed. Why would this world be left to burn when it's been our job for 2000 years to prepare the earth?
sorta jw belief but ok. this earth will be purged from its sin (made anew) (gn 3:17-18) and it will be united with a new heaven in new jerusalem (rv 21).
Same. I'm a semi-preterist post tribulation amillenial. When Christ comes back, that's it. Christians will be taken up to heaven with Jesus and those left behind will burn in hell and sin is defeated.
19:50 Lutherans still have a strong passion for influencing the culture. LCMS schools are the second biggest organization of private schools in the US (behind catholics)
You should do a video about postmil and amil. A lot of “postmil” guys like inspiring philosophy really sound more like optimistic amils. The difference between the two can seem pretty murky.
Wow the timing is impeccable here Zoomer! I thought I was going crazy for being the only person at my church who didn't believe in the Rapture... always thought it was very sensationalist and unnecessary. The church my parents attend teaches The Rapture like its fundamental doctrine so I assumed that it was Biblically sound. Until I read the Bible myself lol.
I think it's important to differentiate between the event of the rapture and the timing of the rapture. The word "rapture" comes from the Latin word for the Greek word for caught up (ἁρπάζω (harpazō)), which is rapiemur in the Latin Vulgate in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, so while the word doesn't show up in the Greek, it's certainly a biblical concept. With that said, the timing of the rapture is the issue. I'm not so sure that it is pre-trib, like I used to believe. With that said, I am Premillennial in my Eschatology. Many in the early Church held to Premillennialism, such as Papias of Hierapolis, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyons, Methodius, Lactantius, Commodianus, Theophilus, Tertullian, Melito, Hippolytus of Rome and Victorinus of Pettau, so if anyone tells that you that none of the early Church or the fathers believed in a thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth, then that is straight-up false.
Everyone believes in a thousand year reign of christ on earth, be it physically or spiritually. Historic pre-mill is very different from what modern pre-mills believe, and especially problematic for the pre-trib sect; Irenaeus believed the fiery purge (great tribulation) would purify believers
You are right about the different views on Premillennialism and the fact that the Church fathers did see the tribulation period being applicable to the church.@@ayobithedark2772
it seems that those who are angry either didnt watch the video, or are unhappy that Zoomer didnt specifically say pre-trib rapture in the title and just used the word Rapture. otherwise, mostly tame
@@bushbladesnbows.2378 If people titled a conference; "Christ isn't Lord" but actually meant Christ is the Son distinct from the Father though didn't specify it until 20 minutes later that's a failure to communicate.
@@kriegjaeger sure, except that in lots of circles the term rapture is only used by people who believe in a pre-trib rapture, it's not like there is a ton of nuance to the word "Lord". People know what you mean when you say "Christ is Lord", but if you say "I believe in the rapture" in most places i have been, people will assume you are a pre-trib dispensationalist, cuz that is the only people they have heard use the term Rapture. Literally didn't know until I read through this comment section that people use the term Rapture to mean anything other than a secret coming of Christ in a pre-trib or mid-trib sense. So ya, Zoomer definitely could have clarified his title in the first few minutes of the vid, and so he definitely didn't communicate as well as he could have, but it's not near as egregious as you are making it sound, and is actually a very understandable mistake in my opinion.
@@bushbladesnbows.2378 If it seems I'm more irked by it than I aught to be it's for 2 reasons; It's clickbaity and zoomer has a repeated issue of not understanding or respecting his brother's views on what God is trying to teach us. Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept My command to endure, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come over the whole world to test those who live on the earth. Along with the dialog before the destruction of Sodom and Gamorrah with Abraham where God argued that he would not destroy it if there were at least 10 good people, then the angels had to remove Lot (The only righteous person) before its destruction showing he would not cast his wrath on even ONE good person, it seems likely if the revelation is his wrath, those sanctified in the blood of the Lamb would be taken out. Thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders, 10 and with every unrighteous deception among those who are perishing. They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe what is false, 12 so that all will be condemned-those who did not believe the truth but enjoyed unrighteousness. Some take this passage to mean, and reasonably enough, that WHEN the church is taken up people who would reject God will be SENT a strong deception so they accept a lie that explains the rapture.
@@chickenpie4402 the rapture? Yes its a more protestant belief. with baptists being big believers of this and a major denomination in america. I could be wrong about baptist belief in this but catholics and orthodox dont believe in it
So I go to an Assembly of God church, very big on use of spiritual gift from an early age I’ve spoken in tongue whether be privately or under my breath in church or while praying for others but not in an intent to be interpreted. I feel your views described in this video are correct, I’ve recently spoke out of just perception of others words and actions that people focus too much on whether or not the end times are coming and that it’s is irrelevant to our daily lives as in how we plan because it cause us to villianize/demonize others and I’m going to ask my pastor about this but I definitely think you’re right. It cause us to drift to fear before we choose to love others and share the gospel when opportunity is appropriate. You are very well educated, from your understanding is the idea of Pre trib a common belief in the assemblies of God denomination. I realize this is hyper specific. I really appreciate your video btw I identify to a lot of your views and interpretations. Great content very enlightening 🙏🏻 thank you
The World Wars take alot of the blame for ppl thinking the end is close. Makes sense ppl would think a third would break out any day, Revelations being interpreted as WWII on steroids
Ok after watching this I talked with my husband, and our question is what about when Enoch and Elijah are taken up? Do you not think that counts for scriptural basis for the rapture? And my husband asked what about 1 Corinthians 15:52? I’m genuinely curious what you think. Love your channel brother!
@@danvinsontrailor2339 I still think there is scriptural basis for it as to the verses I cited. And also in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 when it says “caught up”. It’s my understanding the context of Thessalonians was to encourage those there because there were Christian’s who died and they were worried about them and Christ’s second coming. But I think this is a secondary issue no matter what Christ is King and I do love that redeemed zoomer pointed out how we should focus on making things better in our world not just so focused on the rapture I agree that Christian’s can get caught up in that, I wasn’t even trying to make a joke but you get my point 🤣
It would be cool if whenever you mention a city on the server, you edit in the map point to it on the map of the world. Would be cool to trace the continuing progress with each video!
Many Christians I know believe in the rapture and do not hold these opinions. In fact they take it as a challenge to invite as many people to Christ as they can because we never know when He will return. Great video with some things for other believers to chew on
I’d love to see you do a full video on a critique of CS Lewis. He’s one of my favorite writers of apologetics. All your videos are entertaining. As someone in seminary for an evangelical church, I find much more in common with your beliefs than some of my peers. For someone who has never went to seminary or school for theology, your love for Jesus Christ is apparent which makes your content that much more relatable. Thanks for the content.
9:06 This is true! My dad always says that to me That i shouldn’t set goals because the rapture is near and I wouldn’t finish college and get married I see a lot of Christians wanting to do their things before Jesus comes back and I feel the sadness and terror But when I was younger I used to feel less encouraged to do things because I thought the end would come any day,I had nightmares about that.
Okay I’m not a rapture believer but I think there’s a problem with using the “no one know the day or the hour” quote to disprove it because it seems to be more in reference to a Jewish wedding than a serious promise because it also implies that The Holy Spirit does not know the day or the hour, but he does
So few people realize this. It's a very important concept. The comparison of Christ's second coming to that of a wedding. The church is His bride and the wedding feast being our future physical communion together with Him
My biggest issue was trying to find where the rapture happens in Revelation. All the interpretations were so forced. Then I found Amillennialism, thought it made sense and haven't left since :)
@@dannyboy7237 I’m also a partial preterist. I believe the majority of events in Revelation have already taken place, as this is something Jesus hints towards in Matthew 24:34. With that in mind, I also believe Jesus has started His reign in Heaven. A constant theme throughout the Gospels and Epistles is the coming of Christ kingdom. It is not a future thing but something that has already taken place. He now reigns in Heaven as we await His return
@@Dave_OGG Gotcha. What do you think in history could relate to the events of Revelation though? The events of revelation lead to a global cataclysm of of most of the world dying.
@@dannyboy7237If you read revelation as a 21st century American, yes, it may seem like that. Revelation was written 2,000 years ago by a Jew to other Jews. You must read the book according to the literary genre, not how you read a letter from the IRS. Ask yourself if the insane imagery is actually taken to be literal.
For most my time i upheld to the theology of amillenialism, but recently my view changed because of a chapter in 2 thessalonicans 2:1-7. It talkes about the lawless one, and in verse 7 it says he will not be revealed until the one who keeps him back will be taken away. And i feel that what would make modt sense regarding the context of the verse would be that thr one keeping the lawless one away would be the Holy Ghost, and thus the church. Though if anyone has a different interperetation please tell me. I would love to hear your arguments😃 In Christ love, Samuel✝️
He's just an ass who doesn't believe in free will and thinks God specifically called him to be a Christian. He ignores most of the new testament and has zero answers for the distinction between the rules to salvation for those pre Christ and those who live on the earth alongside Christ. So due to his theological laziness he just assumes everyone follows the exact same rules and that's that. His understanding of salvation is incredibly limited, but that's a common theme with Presbyterians.
I’m a pan-millennial. Whatever happens it will pan out in the end because Jesus wins. Strive to further the kingdom wether you are going to heaven tomorrow or years from now. shouldn’t change how you act.
Amen. I'm an amillenial, but if the rapture does turn out to be true, you better be ready for it. Regardless Christ is coming back. Treat every second like He could come back right now. Follow His commands and spread the gospel.
I'm a Baptist and I tried to talk to my Pastor about how the rapture wasn't real but he just brushed. it off and was like no I don't believe that and just ignored me. It's weird how ingrained it is in Baptist churches
SBC attender here, when interviewed by members before being put in place, our current pastor said, among other things that he "does not expect it", which surprised me, but that I really appreciate.
Come to my Baptist church, first of all the pastor would love to discuss your questions about anything, second you probably won't ever hear the rapture preached (at least I have not)
1 John 2:18 Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and *already many such antichrists have appeared*. From this we know that the last hour has come.
@@kriegjaegerWhat you call the antichrist is from the church. 1 John 2:18-19 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. *They went out from us*, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. The Antichrist thing denies that Jesus is the messiah and he denies the Father. So only the Spirit or rather a spirit. The antichrist is therefore a spiritualist. 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. This idea fits perfectly. 1 John 4:2-3 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that *spirit of antichrist*, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Antichristians therefore have an evil spirit. 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Mind you, that was all 2000 years ago. Big amount of time for prophecy to not be fulfilled in. Unless prophecy was fulfilled. But what prophecy would take up 1000 years + ?... The millennium. And that is near the end of the book of Revelation. So guess where we are in the timeline.
I'll be honest, as a baptist this is an interesting perspective. I will say that I feel very blessed that I feel that my church teaches nearly a reformed theology. Besides the rapture, they do emphasize involvement in communities and are pretty consistent with your views. We even do sacraments even though we believe the only thing necessary for salvation is accepting Jesus as your savior. But I have likewise heard evangelist who preach a bit too hard on the rapture and end times. Only about a year back with my walk with Christ, but I relate to alot of your work. It's interesting to listen to and ponder your views. I might even be a calvinist, but I'm still wrestling with that.
What would be the best arguments in support of interpreting 1 Thessalonians 4:17 caught up ie harpazo as being caught up with Christ immidiately pretrib?
Same. This is why I prefer to call it the “exit-resurrection” rather than “rapture” due to its connotation. And “Left Behind” sure has done the most damage in wrecking the doctrinal purpose behind this concept.
A 2-letter change would solve a lot of people's misunderstanding of this: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (ESV, slightly edited): 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to GReet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Please don't go into the evil Apocrypha, it's all man made stuff! The rapture is 100% biblical: t 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
@@albertafarmer8638 I wouldn't say it isn't inspired by God but it really has no importance. The main reason it was left out was due to how late it was written compared to everything else. I personally haven't read much of it but I don't think I remember seeing anything blasphemous or contradictory to the actual New Testament.
My mentor and I talked about the rapture some time ago and the rapture does indeed not sound quite biblical. Nice video, you explain it well. By the way, have you got any Christian media (novels, music, etc.) that would be worth looking at? Can you make a video about it? :D
nice video mr zoomer i just found it really stressful seeing you run around the nether lost so just fyi pls dont let us share in your pain next video lol
Hey question, I’m someone who has quite a passion for arts. For the past few years I’ve been working on music and have been contemplating writing a book and/or coding a game however recently I have been working on my relationship with God which I have seemed to have strayed away from. My question would be: How should I as a Christian write a story? I’m aware of concepts of the dangers of writing secular/fantasy/fiction stories however there is also the “controversy” of depictions of God in media. How should I tackle this scenario? Also, Awesome Server
Ah yes, another theological discussion with my fellow brother in Christ,me a non denominational (I’m just trying to follow Jesus😞) I agree. I believe Christians as a whole need to stop having an apocalyptic mindset. I’m in Texas, And it really does frustrate me.
my girlfriend from another school actually got raptured just before I could show her to my friends, tru story
Yeah, it do be like that
Happens to the best of us
😂
RIP
Man I hate it when this happens 😔
Loved the phrase at the end
"The christian vision of the future is supposed to be christ-centered, not antichrist-centered."
Came down here to comment this.
the issue is, he can comment fancy sayings that sound cool, but it doesn't change the truth of scripture.
As a reformed Baptist, I agree completely
Though I believe in the Rapture, I think this is a good line.
The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
Actually, my dad was raptured when he left to go get the milk. Take that
Oh no 🤣
Crazy 😭😭
The attempts to predict its date have always been wild to me. Brother, what part of "like a thief in the night" did you not understand? Live as he has commanded you to. He will come when he is supposed to.
Okay, that intro was genius.
I’m an Evangelical, and I’m sure I’m in the minority in my church, but I also don’t believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.
As another Evangelical I'm indifferent about it, wether it happens or not, or wether the Second Coming of Jesus Christ happens now, or in 100 years, we must be ready.
You're not the only one!
@tugalord so you're Amillenial, just like me :)
@@soupeverywhere9565 yup
Gen 18:16
As a former Premil I really appreciate this. I used to lose so much sleep over the End Times but realizing that the Left Behind version of events is unbiblical has given me an immeasurable amount of peace.
Same here. Now I'm optimistic amil, and believe we should make a difference in the world.
@@marchedgie6838 Amen
facts @@marchedgie6838
I realized that the premil mindset, combined with Southern Baptist presuppositions about retreat from institutional, is precisely why I was irrationally skeptical of all institutions. This was not healthy, helpful, or even biblical, and thus I have changed my ways. Redeemed Zoomer is doing a great service by bringing these points to our attention ✝
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I'm a Southern Baptist and I believe in the Reconquista
I attend a southern baptist church and it's frustrating how ingrained the rapture is to so many people.
I understand you brother my wife firmly believes that 🤧
If u don't believe in the rapture, then you're not Baptist... Therefore, you are the one going to the wrong church! They are not the lost ones.
Just fyi... Not all SBC people believe in a rapture and not all Baptists believe in a rapture.
@@titus_philemon it's my understanding that that is something that, like a lot of things in the Baptist circles, isn't codified by the organization one way or the other.
@@LTDLimiTeD1995 Every Baptist church will have it written on their "what we believe in" page because every Baptist believe in the rapture. Everyone is free to make their own branch of Christianity, but that's what we Baptists believe in (If you don't, then you are not a Baptist).
I don't understand all the complex details of the end of the world, but what I DO know is that JESUS WINS and we're on his side!
Amen!
I was speaking with an older Christian, who came to Christ during the Jesus Revolution. He describe both himself and others he knew delaying things like getting married and having children because of the many dire eschatological predictions of the time. He really felt that the doomsday obsession killed a lot of the momentum from the Jesus Revolution.
That only makes me want to hurry up .. I don’t wanna be 35 when doomsday happens and I just miss out on that part of life, which is fine since we’ll unite with the greatest buttt I still want a wife and kids and grandkids haha
I was just thinking of renting the Jesus revolution the movie. Then I scrolled down two comments snd ssw your comment. God giving me a little nudge
This is unfortunately a pervasive idea in the boomer generation particularly. It's pop culture Christianity. My parents and their siblings are obsessed with the book of Revelation in a very negative and unhealthy way. They are very focused on the negative, scary stuff, and totally ignore the point of the book: Jesus wins.
I agree, pop culture Christianity is a good way to describe it.
Amen
I still remember Billy Graham's words about "Time is short."
"Time for studying, do it now. Time for evangelizing, do it now. Time for witnessing to someone, do it now."
Sometimes, people believing in Rapture affected me thinking that it is not possible to build Kingdom of God and that Kingdom of God are only true, loyal churches that are like God's outposts or bases.
Thank you Redeemed Zoomer for inspiring me.
May God bless your channel and work.
P.s. if it be possible, can you do a video on biblical view of self defense, military and fighting for God and country in the military.
Billy Graham taught subtle works salvation. Repent doesn't mean turning from sin it means changing your mind. God repented in the bible and he without sin, and God views turning from sin as works.
@@reignellwalker9755 I respect your view my brother in Christ, but I disagree with you on what you have said and believe that way of thinking will only divide other brethren in Christ.
I invite you to be filled with the Holy Ghost and read this comment with love and patience. May you be blessed by the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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If you believe that salvation is by faith alone, good. Do not call others false Christians for not believing that, because that belief did not exist till Reformation.
As Paul had wrote in his epistles, that we must love each other and not be stumbling block to each other, lest we start war among each other because of things like Sola Fide and Rapture.
Please brother, I invite you in good faith in Christ, to think about this.
"17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." (James 2:17-24 KJV)
It's true that we are saved by faith and that it is a gift from God, the grace from God, but it's not by faith alone.
There are two types of deeds:
1)physical -> feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, visit the sick, visit the imprisoned or ransom the captive and bury the dead.
2) spiritual -> instruct the ignorant, counsel the doubtful, admonish the sinners, bear patiently those who wrong us, forgive offenses, comfort the afflicted and pray for the living.
These deeds come directly from the Holy Scriptures. I encourage you to take a look for yourself brother.
God bless and have a nice day.
P.s. I really hope you made it this far, and if you did, that you will comment this peacefully and respectfully as Paul the Apostle had begged us. Our Lord Jesus Christ told us to love each other as He had loved us and still does. Love you brother and pray for me.
@@silvio1894I am not trying to start an argument just challenging you to think. If salvation is not by faith alone that would mean it is partially dependent on ourselves. Which is not the case, salvation is all about Jesus what he has done. He lived the perfect life we could never. Saying that salvation is partly on our works takes away from what Jesus has done. It would also mean that there is a line of amount of works to do to be saved. Which the thief on the cross would have to have crossed the line. A man who did no works was saved on the cross. Salvation is by faith alone so we do not boast. If we are to boast it is only about the Lord and what he has done. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9
I wholeheartedly believe if you are saved you will have a desire to go and serve and tell people the gospel and do works. For salvation to be based any our works would be saying what Jesus did on the cross is not enough. Our actions reflect our faith in Christ they affirm it.
@@cadedenton9892 Didn't I paste above the KJV verse that we are not justified by faith alone, but by works?
We are saved by faith, but we are justified by works and Paul wrote in his epistle that we should "work for our salvation."
From my experience, I know that it is not simply salvation by faith alone. The only situation where it can be by faith alone is that the person who does not have a lot of time on earth left, the only thing he/she could do is to put solely their faith in Christ alone, regarding their situation (old age, medical condition, etc...).
God will judge that person for his/her work.
We Christian did go from judgement to life by accepting Christ Jesus.
But would you say that we are not to be judged for our works because of our faith being justified by work or purely faith alone?
I ask because they are two separate concepts.
If you say that salvation is purely by faith alone, then what about works?
I say: >>We are saved by faith, in Christ Jesus alone and justified by our good works, commanded by our Lord, before our Lord at the Judgement Day.>We are saved by faith, in Christ Jesus alone, and justified by our good works, commanded by our Lord, before our Lord at the Judgement Day.
@@silvio1894your works won’t save you. When you are saved by faith your works will show. By their fruit you will know them.
My general opinion on the matter is that if someone says that the end will be at a certain day/time/week/etc. you can bet it’s not going to be when they say.
My fear is that many might lose faith in times of hardship. They'll expect to be raptured away before persecution. If the Church were to face it, many will fall away.
that’s what the bible teaches though. there’s a great culmination of evil and apostasy due to hardship in the last days
@@amirsmith9269 I'm flexible with my beliefs. I won't lose faith that easily.
All they'd need not to is actually read scripture. Gen 18:16
@@kriegjaeger "And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way (KJV.)" Ok. And... what does this mean?
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Read the dialogue between Abraham and God, then what happens in Sodom with Lot.
I believe in the rapture (nondenominational). Couple things I want to clarify from the video is I don’t know anyone that thinks the rapture is a secret or private event. Secondly, the apostle Paul believed in the rapture in 2 Thesolonians. Thirdly, I don’t know anyone that hides because of the rapture but rather they see it as an urgent situation and use it to evangelize more.
I'm a pentacostals and what you are saying aplies to what I've seen aswell!👍
Most people I know believe the same and I don't appreciate the generalization by Redeemed Zoomer
Amen!
Where in 2 Thessalonians does it say he believes in the rapture? I read it all but don’t really see it definitely confirming the rapture specifically vs just talking about the second coming of Christ.
I've heard my pastor preach on the world denying the rapture during the tribulation.
But I do agree that not all rapture teaching discourages ignoring the world.
Still, this video gets me thinking.
Couldn't have been stated more clearly myself. Thank you Zoomer for outlining the importance of Eschatology and the potential for the misinterpretation thereof to lead to idle hands. Us Christians have the message this world desperately needs and our goal is not to escape this world! We are called to disciple it.
The gates of hades will not prevail against the church.
In fact the idea of escaping the world is a gnostic view, not a Christian view, so I agree with you
Guys it’s been 15 minutes it is not physically possible that you have watched the entire video just watch it first
2x speed goes brrrrr
As a rapture believer, your intro was brilliant. Gave me a good laugh.
I've heard pastors make rapture jokes when DST ends as well.
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I heard of a guy who fell asleep in church, and then the congregation decided to prank him by leaving a bunch of clothes around where they were sitting and then leave.
@@elijahcandage HAHA. Unfortunately that would never work in my church of 1,000 or so people per service.
It’s not biblical
As a non denominational, growing up in nd and baptist circles, I appreciate you talking about this. I like that you mention our focus about the second coming should be on christ, not the antichrist; that happens so often, especially online.
I appreciate your style of videos. The Minecraft gameplay keeps my ADHD scatterbrained mind focused and engaged while I absorb the lessons that I actually want in my life. Your explanations are detailed and clear, and if I've ever found a case of fault in your reasoning, it doesn't come to mind. Thanks for these wonderful videos, and keep it coming!
Biggest problem with it is that many use rapture theology and turn it into an anxiety riddled doomsday cult.
Even though a warning is placed at the end regarding the information within Revelation
In Time, It Will Be Said About Jacob And Israel,
‘Oh, What ELoHIM Has Done!’
Behold, This People Will Come Out Like A Lion, And Rise Up Like A Lion;
It Shall Not Lie Down Until It Devours The Prey,
And Drinks The Blood Of The Slain.
~ Numbers 23:23-24
They Go From STrength To StrengTH;
Every One Of Them In ZION Appeareth Before ELoHIM.
O YEHOVA ELoHIM Of HOSTS, HEAR My PRAYER:
GIVE EAR, O ELoHIM Of JACOB.
~ Psalm 84:7-8
The Righteous Is Lost,
And There Is No One Who Pays Attention:
Good People Are Taken From The World,
Without Anyone Knowing,
The Righteous Is Taken From The Face Of The Evil.
~ Isaiah 57:1
#RaptureVerse
But you children of the witch,
the offspring of the adulterer and the harlot,
come near to HIM.
Who are you mocking,
At Whom are you opening your mouth and sticking out your tongue?
Are you not a brood of rebels,
the offspring of liars?
~ Isaiah 57:3-4
#TheGreatTribulationVerse
‘The Mystery Of The Rapture’
“As In The Days When I Brought You Out Of Egypt,
I Will Show Them Miracles.”
When The Nations See Those Miracles,
They Will No Longer Brag About Their Power.
They Will Put Their Hands Over Their Mouths; Their Ears Shall Be Deaf.
~ Micah 7:15-16
Praise YAH, YEHOVA, HalleluYAH;
My thoughts exactly. I believe in the rapture but the fact that we aren't supposed to know the time and date means we have to live our Christian lives as best we can, not to be riddled with anxiety and obsess over when it'll happen
No Doomsday with our governments?
The rapture is our Blessed Hope! The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
99% of “THE RAPTURE IS COMING” preachers quit one year before it really happens for real this time
What's even more hilarious/depressing is when my fellow Baptists say that the Babylon woman in revelation is the Catholic Church. 😭
i cant speak to them without them going off saying "bu bu but she she is the whore of babylon, bu but the bible says the catholic church is the whore, it says right there!"
The Catholic Church is satanic
Yo what??? That's pretty wild.
May i know whats your interpretation for it?
They are Partially correct. The Babylonian women is the Novus Ordo Catholic Church, not the true Catholic Church.
"88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Happen in 1988"
Attempt 1 of asking RZ for an analyzation of the top 10 or 15 versions of the Bible, including what versions include or omit what books. (Please include CSB and ESV, those are what I read and I'd like to know how they compare to other versions. I haven't done much research, but I like them because they retain the poetic nature of the Bible, while being worded in a way that makes them easy to understand and, more importantly, smooth to read. I imagine this topic has been covered by others, but I'd like to hear your perspective, since the way you explain things is so clear and you do your research well. Your coverage of denominations has impressed me, and I'm looking forward to more videos from you. Thank you!)
1:27 but every courtroom, media outlet and gov't office will remain full to capacity 😂
As someone raised Methodist (Salvation Army,) and Presbyterian, and now closest to Baptist, thanks a ton! I came across the infamous "Left Behind" books as a young teen and was taken in by the idea presented. I do feel like sometimes the biggest vocals supporters of it don't know what it is to actually suffer and for it to be incurable (for reference I'm visually impaired,( because it's gets tiring hearing about when I know as a genuine Christian that my earthly disability will be gone the instant I take my last breathe. They also seem to not understand how grief works for nonbelievers, since the authors behind those books acted like the "left behind" loved ones finding thier family member gone would somehow lead them to ask God to forgiveness. Not saying it's impossible, just really unlikely.
> the authors behind those books acted like the "left behind" loved ones finding thier family member gone would somehow lead them to ask God to forgiveness
Among a multitude of other reasons, this is perhaps #1 why I don't think the Left Behind series is even a little bit biblical. It demonstrates misunderstanding about the condition of the soul in the context of eschatology / final judgement. People like to think that everyone will turn to Christ once they realize salvation and damnation are real, but we know from scripture that's not true.
3:28 My grandparents fall into this category. They say it’s very important to take God’s promises to Israel in the Old Testament literally, but I’m not sure. I would really appreciate if you made a video about Biblical literalism relating to God’s promises to Israel.
I believe some promises to Israel really are for the nation of Israel and not the church. What does Jesus refer to when He says “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.”? Also isn’t the Antichrist going to rule in Jerusalem?
I’m fairly skeptical of dispensationalism, but I’m not very knowledgeable of the different theological views of Israel and the Jewish people. I think that the promises toward Israel should be taken seriously, particularly because many of those promises were fulfilled in Christ. I also believe that the Church is the spiritual extension of Israel, God’s chosen people including Jews and Gentiles alike.
The question is whether non-believing Jews and the State of Israel are part of the spiritual Israel. I suspect the answer is more nuanced than a simple no, and not yes either. I’m inclined to believe that the Jews as a people, including unbelieving Jews, are still blessed by God as descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And I also think the State of Israel still has a big part to play in God’s plan. But I don’t believe that the State of Israel is part of the spiritual Israel, and it is very diseased culturally and politically. It is the Holy Land, but I think the Land of Israel still has a long way to go before it is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord.
Still, I think it’s evident in recent history that God has blessed and supported the rise of the Jewish state, despite its immense troubles and afflictions. For whatever reason. And I can’t claim to know that reason.
@@lukeporras1288 You can't claim that God has blessed and supported the rise of the Jewish state. It may be that he has allowed it to occur, or that it is irrelevant.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 Consider the simple fact that He has finally allowed the Jewish people to return to their homeland. That the Jews were essentially given the land.
And do I need any other example than the 6 Day War in 1967 when Israel defeated Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, and captured the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza, and the entire Sinai Peninsula, all in 6 days flat? I see it as a clear indication of the hand of God.
@@lukeporras1288The Jews hated Christ.
Thank you so much for this. The Christians in my family seem to be talking about how the rapture is coming in their lifetime and I’m thinking I must be crazy because I don’t recall ever reading about this in scripture..
Man, this is brilliant. I am inspired to do a similar work in Telugu( a language in south India) after listening to this. Much of church here is disengaged because of rapture theology.
@@eliegbert8121 Church in India is as old as christianity itself. Apostle Thomas entered India via Malabar coast in AD 54.There is a strong Syrian Christian presence ever since but largely muted due to syncretism. And then catholics did a tremendous Job in 14,15 th centuries followed by Danish Lutherans. So, there is a very strong presence of main line denominations which in fact is Modern India's DNA. But American Evangelicalism came around 1960's which introduced word of faith,dispensational theology,..among many others.Indian church then started inward looking and became individualistic. I am a Lutheran myself who tried different churches. Now, I am realising the need for age old whole gospel which can transform India. Persecution is much in North India which is highly illeterate and casteist. It's getting intense with hindu rightwing government and elections around the corner.
A Roman general’s victory parade is a great image of Jesus’ return and our being raptured up to meet Him.
Another image and even direct type of this is His triumphal entry. When Jewish people flocked out of Jerusalem to meet Him as He came down from the mountain and then went back into the city with Him.
Which is also what you see in Zechariah 14.
Personally I am compelled by Scripture to hold the historic premillennial position. Pretrib dispensationalism concerns me, especially in its more extreme forms.
I hate aguing about eschatology, so i refuse to label myself anything, but i generally agree with amillennialism. But historic pre-millennialism is very respectable in my opinion, and really is totally different from dispensational pr-millennialism.
I'm a historic premillenialist myself
Thank you. I just came down here to point out the connection between the Second Coming and Palm Sunday.
Watch the entire video first before laying down criticisms!
Former dispensationalist now Positive Amillennialist, ever since exploring different views and traditions I have now reformed my theology and world views. Redeemed Zoomer doing a great job at showing Borthers and Sisters different views and traditions. God bless
My church (southern baptist) did a 9-month series on Revelation, and throughout they kept an updated "end times timeline" in which the rapture was just assumed to be on there, even though there is nothing in Revelation that suggests a rapture at all.
Cathoilic here, I was pretty surprised that Presbyterians don't believe in raputre. I thought that most of the prostestant churches teach this - but I like to be educated.
Lutherans don't teach it either. It's mainly Pentacostal and some Baptist. It's mainly those groups that were influenced by JN Darby.
THANK YOU! sending this to all my fellow SBC Baptist friends.
Oh my goodness. This is amazing. What you're saying agrees with a completely different youtuber who was talking about this exact issue recently. This view makes so much sense when you actually read the bible. I used to be so confused about the rapture. I vaguely believed it of course but I was too confused to look into it and didn't know where to start. Now I know. Halleluyah!
If anything the rapture theology should encourage us to take creation of churches and education seriously, feels like a mindset of selfishness and fear when in reality the second coming is a final redemption, everything in excess is bad, I like the video. keeping Christ first not the anti christ
Oh, boy, i feel like the comment section will be as long as the whole Bible.
Baptist here, what I've been taught about the end times and the millennium is SUPER confusing
I've never believed in a single religion in my life and yet that intro (combined with the fact the series is called KINGDOM CRAFT) has me hooked.
This video arrived at just the exact time, thank you so much for the good work man
Even though I believe in the rapture, the complacency criticism is 100% valid. Everyone at my church is just on pins and needles for it to happen, and there's still work to do. 😢
Still work to do? Bro we’ve just started lol.
The problem is that if you believe it or not is that we can’t put the time what’s gonna happen my dad does that
He says we have only 10 years…. And I’m like “how do you know that? Did you had a revelation?”
So our issue is to add a time and start to do things….i get so pissed when he talks to people about the “10 year time frame” we do not know!!!!
I think you're one of the best theological teachers here. Please keep up the good work and especially thank you for making this video.
NGL, I grew up in a church that was rapture and flat earth obsessed. Everything you're saying is absolutely true.
Your intros are amazing and this is the best one yet
"I'm going shopping in Minecraft while talking about the end of the world" , zoomer said softly
This is an interesting timing for this video to say the least...
I'm not as certain about rapture theology as I once was after hearing R C Sproul say that the rapture imagery that I have taken literally may be figurative which would explain why the details of the 1 Thess passage seem different. However evangelicals have also said things about how the national of Israel today is a miracle, so I really don't have a firm opinion anymore.
Lutheran here. Yes, when I first heard about the rapture, I couldn't belive Christians believed it! It was so strange to me.
I have always thought of being a Christian as doing God's work on earth, while we're here in our short lives, as opposed to spreading the word just to "get into" heaven. Also I believe we're all coming back to this earth after the second coming and evil is destroyed. Why would this world be left to burn when it's been our job for 2000 years to prepare the earth?
sorta jw belief but ok. this earth will be purged from its sin (made anew) (gn 3:17-18) and it will be united with a new heaven in new jerusalem (rv 21).
Great episode. Love the format, funny and excellent insight!
Great content (and timely)! :)
Never heard of you, but I really like this format- keep it up
I’m a Lutheran, and even I don’t believe in the rapture
Same. I'm a semi-preterist post tribulation amillenial. When Christ comes back, that's it. Christians will be taken up to heaven with Jesus and those left behind will burn in hell and sin is defeated.
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Lutherans still have a strong passion for influencing the culture. LCMS schools are the second biggest organization of private schools in the US (behind catholics)
You should do a video about postmil and amil. A lot of “postmil” guys like inspiring philosophy really sound more like optimistic amils. The difference between the two can seem pretty murky.
Wow the timing is impeccable here Zoomer!
I thought I was going crazy for being the only person at my church who didn't believe in the Rapture... always thought it was very sensationalist and unnecessary. The church my parents attend teaches The Rapture like its fundamental doctrine so I assumed that it was Biblically sound. Until I read the Bible myself lol.
I think it's important to differentiate between the event of the rapture and the timing of the rapture. The word "rapture" comes from the Latin word for the Greek word for caught up (ἁρπάζω (harpazō)), which is rapiemur in the Latin Vulgate in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, so while the word doesn't show up in the Greek, it's certainly a biblical concept. With that said, the timing of the rapture is the issue. I'm not so sure that it is pre-trib, like I used to believe.
With that said, I am Premillennial in my Eschatology. Many in the early Church held to Premillennialism, such as Papias of Hierapolis, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyons, Methodius, Lactantius, Commodianus, Theophilus, Tertullian, Melito, Hippolytus of Rome and Victorinus of Pettau, so if anyone tells that you that none of the early Church or the fathers believed in a thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth, then that is straight-up false.
Everyone believes in a thousand year reign of christ on earth, be it physically or spiritually. Historic pre-mill is very different from what modern pre-mills believe, and especially problematic for the pre-trib sect; Irenaeus believed the fiery purge (great tribulation) would purify believers
You are right about the different views on Premillennialism and the fact that the Church fathers did see the tribulation period being applicable to the church.@@ayobithedark2772
This is gonna be a fun comment section 🙂
Most everyone agrees, but I know my disagreement never seems to be commented on so I wonder if it gets de-ranked or something.
it seems that those who are angry either didnt watch the video, or are unhappy that Zoomer didnt specifically say pre-trib rapture in the title and just used the word Rapture. otherwise, mostly tame
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If people titled a conference; "Christ isn't Lord" but actually meant Christ is the Son distinct from the Father though didn't specify it until 20 minutes later that's a failure to communicate.
@@kriegjaeger sure, except that in lots of circles the term rapture is only used by people who believe in a pre-trib rapture, it's not like there is a ton of nuance to the word "Lord". People know what you mean when you say "Christ is Lord", but if you say "I believe in the rapture" in most places i have been, people will assume you are a pre-trib dispensationalist, cuz that is the only people they have heard use the term Rapture. Literally didn't know until I read through this comment section that people use the term Rapture to mean anything other than a secret coming of Christ in a pre-trib or mid-trib sense. So ya, Zoomer definitely could have clarified his title in the first few minutes of the vid, and so he definitely didn't communicate as well as he could have, but it's not near as egregious as you are making it sound, and is actually a very understandable mistake in my opinion.
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If it seems I'm more irked by it than I aught to be it's for 2 reasons; It's clickbaity and zoomer has a repeated issue of not understanding or respecting his brother's views on what God is trying to teach us.
Revelation 3:10
Because you have kept My command to endure, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come over the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
Along with the dialog before the destruction of Sodom and Gamorrah with Abraham where God argued that he would not destroy it if there were at least 10 good people, then the angels had to remove Lot (The only righteous person) before its destruction showing he would not cast his wrath on even ONE good person, it seems likely if the revelation is his wrath, those sanctified in the blood of the Lamb would be taken out.
Thessalonians 2:9
The coming of the lawless one is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders, 10 and with every unrighteous deception among those who are perishing. They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe what is false, 12 so that all will be condemned-those who did not believe the truth but enjoyed unrighteousness.
Some take this passage to mean, and reasonably enough, that WHEN the church is taken up people who would reject God will be SENT a strong deception so they accept a lie that explains the rapture.
I am catholic and like your mother i just thought it was a thing. Thank you for helping me out :)
Is this a USA thing? I'm from Europe and never ever heard of it
@@chickenpie4402 the rapture? Yes its a more protestant belief. with baptists being big believers of this and a major denomination in america. I could be wrong about baptist belief in this but catholics and orthodox dont believe in it
So I go to an Assembly of God church, very big on use of spiritual gift from an early age I’ve spoken in tongue whether be privately or under my breath in church or while praying for others but not in an intent to be interpreted. I feel your views described in this video are correct, I’ve recently spoke out of just perception of others words and actions that people focus too much on whether or not the end times are coming and that it’s is irrelevant to our daily lives as in how we plan because it cause us to villianize/demonize others and I’m going to ask my pastor about this but I definitely think you’re right. It cause us to drift to fear before we choose to love others and share the gospel when opportunity is appropriate.
You are very well educated, from your understanding is the idea of Pre trib a common belief in the assemblies of God denomination.
I realize this is hyper specific. I really appreciate your video btw I identify to a lot of your views and interpretations. Great content very enlightening 🙏🏻 thank you
from my understanding, pre-trib is the go-to eschatology among AOG churches. Don't know if it is an officially held doctrine tho.
@@bushbladesnbows.2378 it is official.
The World Wars take alot of the blame for ppl thinking the end is close. Makes sense ppl would think a third would break out any day, Revelations being interpreted as WWII on steroids
Ok after watching this I talked with my husband, and our question is what about when Enoch and Elijah are taken up? Do you not think that counts for scriptural basis for the rapture? And my husband asked what about 1 Corinthians 15:52? I’m genuinely curious what you think. Love your channel brother!
@@danvinsontrailor2339 I would love it if you explained more of your position. And give your biblical support for it!
@@danvinsontrailor2339 I still think there is scriptural basis for it as to the verses I cited. And also in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 when it says “caught up”. It’s my understanding the context of Thessalonians was to encourage those there because there were Christian’s who died and they were worried about them and Christ’s second coming. But I think this is a secondary issue no matter what Christ is King and I do love that redeemed zoomer pointed out how we should focus on making things better in our world not just so focused on the rapture I agree that Christian’s can get caught up in that, I wasn’t even trying to make a joke but you get my point 🤣
@@danvinsontrailor2339 will do!
It would be cool if whenever you mention a city on the server, you edit in the map point to it on the map of the world. Would be cool to trace the continuing progress with each video!
@shleepz nice pfp! Did you draw it?
@@longiusaescius2537 no haha. It's clown Yui Yuigahama
Many Christians I know believe in the rapture and do not hold these opinions. In fact they take it as a challenge to invite as many people to Christ as they can because we never know when He will return.
Great video with some things for other believers to chew on
Some days I feel as if I'm the only pre-millennialist who doesn't think the rapture is scriptural lol
dude… i have so much anxiety regarding this topic. thank you redeemed zoomer
amazing video, couldn't have come at a better time bc ive been debating this with my friends the past couple days lol
I’d love to see you do a full video on a critique of CS Lewis. He’s one of my favorite writers of apologetics. All your videos are entertaining. As someone in seminary for an evangelical church, I find much more in common with your beliefs than some of my peers. For someone who has never went to seminary or school for theology, your love for Jesus Christ is apparent which makes your content that much more relatable. Thanks for the content.
This is so important, thank you for posting this. Many people believe in the rapture since it's all they've ever been taught
Well this is good news. I was worried about who was gonna feed my dog when i got raptured. I wouldn't want him to starve to death.
I would like to watch a video of your interpretation of revelation, if it does not already exsists
20:50 it's pronounced "Dough-set-ist". And no mention of Cyrus Scofield?
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This is true! My dad always says that to me
That i shouldn’t set goals because the rapture is near and I wouldn’t finish college and get married
I see a lot of Christians wanting to do their things before Jesus comes back and I feel the sadness and terror
But when I was younger I used to feel less encouraged to do things because I thought the end would come any day,I had nightmares about that.
Funnyaly enough my pastor was talking about the rapture today, so it was intresting this came up.
thanks for there videos God bless
I would like to hear more of your ideas on CS Lewis.
I’ve been waiting for this one 🔥🔥
Okay I’m not a rapture believer but I think there’s a problem with using the “no one know the day or the hour” quote to disprove it because it seems to be more in reference to a Jewish wedding than a serious promise because it also implies that The Holy Spirit does not know the day or the hour, but he does
So few people realize this. It's a very important concept. The comparison of Christ's second coming to that of a wedding. The church is His bride and the wedding feast being our future physical communion together with Him
My biggest issue was trying to find where the rapture happens in Revelation. All the interpretations were so forced. Then I found Amillennialism, thought it made sense and haven't left since :)
If I may ask, what is it about amillenialism? I'm personally pre-trib, but I'd like to hear your reasoning and compare it to the Bible
@@dannyboy7237 I’m also a partial preterist. I believe the majority of events in Revelation have already taken place, as this is something Jesus hints towards in Matthew 24:34. With that in mind, I also believe Jesus has started His reign in Heaven. A constant theme throughout the Gospels and Epistles is the coming of Christ kingdom. It is not a future thing but something that has already taken place. He now reigns in Heaven as we await His return
@@Dave_OGG Gotcha. What do you think in history could relate to the events of Revelation though? The events of revelation lead to a global cataclysm of of most of the world dying.
@@dannyboy7237If you read revelation as a 21st century American, yes, it may seem like that. Revelation was written 2,000 years ago by a Jew to other Jews. You must read the book according to the literary genre, not how you read a letter from the IRS. Ask yourself if the insane imagery is actually taken to be literal.
For most my time i upheld to the theology of amillenialism, but recently my view changed because of a chapter in 2 thessalonicans 2:1-7. It talkes about the lawless one, and in verse 7 it says he will not be revealed until the one who keeps him back will be taken away. And i feel that what would make modt sense regarding the context of the verse would be that thr one keeping the lawless one away would be the Holy Ghost, and thus the church. Though if anyone has a different interperetation please tell me. I would love to hear your arguments😃 In Christ love, Samuel✝️
There had to be a better way to describe the rapture than getting “sucked off the earth”
He's just an ass who doesn't believe in free will and thinks God specifically called him to be a Christian. He ignores most of the new testament and has zero answers for the distinction between the rules to salvation for those pre Christ and those who live on the earth alongside Christ. So due to his theological laziness he just assumes everyone follows the exact same rules and that's that. His understanding of salvation is incredibly limited, but that's a common theme with Presbyterians.
@@renaldoawes2210well thats just rude
I’m a pan-millennial. Whatever happens it will pan out in the end because Jesus wins.
Strive to further the kingdom wether you are going to heaven tomorrow or years from now. shouldn’t change how you act.
Amen. I'm an amillenial, but if the rapture does turn out to be true, you better be ready for it. Regardless Christ is coming back. Treat every second like He could come back right now. Follow His commands and spread the gospel.
I'm a Baptist and I tried to talk to my Pastor about how the rapture wasn't real but he just brushed. it off and was like no I don't believe that and just ignored me. It's weird how ingrained it is in Baptist churches
Become Presbyterian and you'll never hear about the rapture again!
SBC attender here, when interviewed by members before being put in place, our current pastor said, among other things that he "does not expect it", which surprised me, but that I really appreciate.
Come to my Baptist church, first of all the pastor would love to discuss your questions about anything, second you probably won't ever hear the rapture preached (at least I have not)
There’s always the Catholic Church. We tend to be more reasonable about our theology
Same
"Pin the tail on the antichrist" 😆
1 John 2:18
Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and *already many such antichrists have appeared*. From this we know that the last hour has come.
@@kriegjaegerWhat you call the antichrist is from the church.
1 John 2:18-19 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
*They went out from us*, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
The Antichrist thing denies that Jesus is the messiah and he denies the Father. So only the Spirit or rather a spirit. The antichrist is therefore a spiritualist.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
This idea fits perfectly.
1 John 4:2-3 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that *spirit of antichrist*, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Antichristians therefore have an evil spirit.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Mind you, that was all 2000 years ago. Big amount of time for prophecy to not be fulfilled in. Unless prophecy was fulfilled. But what prophecy would take up 1000 years + ?...
The millennium. And that is near the end of the book of Revelation. So guess where we are in the timeline.
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People who get raptured won't even see the anti-christ.
So there isn't really a reason to be freaked out
I think we should question everything anyways regardless as my old manager used to say "trust but verify"
@dakotajones8010 👀Paranoia engaged.
Man lives not by bread but by every word of God.
@@DakotaJones-nn2oi it's not paranoia it's knowing that man is corrupted and blindly trusting man is ignorant
@@dakotajones8010 I was actually just referring to seeing someone else with my name. 😅
@@DakotaJones-nn2oi oh lmao I didn't even notice 🤣
Nice conquering music at the end
It took me way to long to figure out what you were getting at in the beginning 😂
I'll be honest, as a baptist this is an interesting perspective.
I will say that I feel very blessed that I feel that my church teaches nearly a reformed theology. Besides the rapture, they do emphasize involvement in communities and are pretty consistent with your views. We even do sacraments even though we believe the only thing necessary for salvation is accepting Jesus as your savior.
But I have likewise heard evangelist who preach a bit too hard on the rapture and end times.
Only about a year back with my walk with Christ, but I relate to alot of your work. It's interesting to listen to and ponder your views. I might even be a calvinist, but I'm still wrestling with that.
What would be the best arguments in support of interpreting 1 Thessalonians 4:17 caught up ie harpazo as being caught up with Christ immidiately pretrib?
I believe in the rapture and, yet, I don't really operate in the manners described.
sure. lots of people are just like you and i totally respect that. but lots of others really get doomsday cult-ish with it.
Same. This is why I prefer to call it the “exit-resurrection” rather than “rapture” due to its connotation. And “Left Behind” sure has done the most damage in wrecking the doctrinal purpose behind this concept.
A 2-letter change would solve a lot of people's misunderstanding of this:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 (ESV, slightly edited): 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to GReet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
I'm Protestant but I would love to see a video on the Apocrypha and why it is rejected by Protestants as it is something a bit confusing to me.
Please don't go into the evil Apocrypha, it's all man made stuff!
The rapture is 100% biblical: t 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler, Dr. Ron Rhodes and their guests! Maranathaaaaa!
It is rejected because it really doesn't add anything important to the Bible and it's authenticity is questionable. Hope I helped brother!
@@NealBrownsFavoriteNaysayer Apocrypha is not from GOD!
@@albertafarmer8638 I wouldn't say it isn't inspired by God but it really has no importance. The main reason it was left out was due to how late it was written compared to everything else. I personally haven't read much of it but I don't think I remember seeing anything blasphemous or contradictory to the actual New Testament.
@@NealBrownsFavoriteNaysayer You can be sure that GOD made sure all the Book we need are in the Bible and that they are from HIM.
My mentor and I talked about the rapture some time ago and the rapture does indeed not sound quite biblical. Nice video, you explain it well. By the way, have you got any Christian media (novels, music, etc.) that would be worth looking at? Can you make a video about it? :D
Is it breaking the 4th commandment if i'm building on a sunday?
“I’m not a seminary student, I’m literally just a minecraft RUclipsr”
nice video mr zoomer
i just found it really stressful seeing you run around the nether lost so just fyi pls dont let us share in your pain next video lol
“I’m going shopping but in mine craft wile talking about the end of the world “😂😂😂
drinking game every time RZ says the phrase "sucked off".
Hey question, I’m someone who has quite a passion for arts. For the past few years I’ve been working on music and have been contemplating writing a book and/or coding a game however recently I have been working on my relationship with God which I have seemed to have strayed away from. My question would be: How should I as a Christian write a story? I’m aware of concepts of the dangers of writing secular/fantasy/fiction stories however there is also the “controversy” of depictions of God in media. How should I tackle this scenario?
Also, Awesome Server
Ah yes, another theological discussion with my fellow brother in Christ,me a non denominational (I’m just trying to follow Jesus😞) I agree. I believe Christians as a whole need to stop having an apocalyptic mindset. I’m in Texas, And it really does frustrate me.