CommanderCodyHD I hear you. Tom's eyes are so amazingly expressive. Every scene he had was absolutely breathtaking. I felt my heart stop in this scene in particular.. Stellar performance.
@@Ihavehadmanynames7779 Then I wondered if anyone other than Alfred and probably Blake saw towards Bruce's pain following that experience. But because The Joker isn't mentioned at all in this film, its kind of hard for other characters to see it. Any character who COULD'VE would've been Selina, since she ends up with Bruce towards the end.
@Strigers 800 Naah.. it reeks of overconfidence plot-armour cliché. If he (Bane) really intended on making sure Bruce remained/stayed there. He would've taken his feet. I would have.
Well said. Like Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut. So much emotion and depth is VERY HARD to convey behind a mask. brilliant performances.
He basically admits here he's not the one who escaped the pit as a child. It's also hinted in the first fight when Bane says, "I didn't see the light until I was a man..." I mean, genius writing.
@@ironsoul941 yeah true despair comes cuz there is no hope but here what it meant is that its even worse that you can see the light and you can see your wscape way its just couple of steps away its just that easy but yet you can't do it at the end and people dying everyday so the true despair he is talking about is that yoy can see what you seek but yoy cant reach it no matter what you do is just torture
@@ironsoul941 Two scenarios, think that you are stranded on an island. You have hope that you can be rescued, but rescue never comes. Or you don't have any hope for rescue to arrive. It feels much more miserable to have hope as you think you have a chance, but really you don't. But without hope, you have probably accepted the fact that you will never be rescued.
@@FixedWing82 Two scenarios, think that you are stranded on an island. You have hope that you can be rescued, but rescue never comes. Or you don't have any hope for rescue to arrive. It feels much more miserable to have hope as you think you have a chance, but really you don't. But without hope, you have probably accepted the fact that you will never be rescued.
Gotta appreciate the use of camera angles. (i.e. we're always looking up at Bane in this scene as if we're lying down too) Hardy is 5'9' and Bale is 6'0", so they did a great job the whole film making it appear that Bane was not only jacked but tall too
"Edward's shirtless torso sparkled in the sunlight." "How can you...stand this?" "It was perfect, like a marble statue glistening in the dew." "Ha, after you were excommunicated by The League of Shadows, you joined Team Edward." Slams book shut. ಠψಠ ".....We both know that I have to kill you now."
He toys with him, then breaks him. Then he puts him to shame just by the mere sound of his voice. Bane utterly owned Batman in this film in more aspects than one.
Ryan DeKnoblough Batman isn't a superhero. He's an vigilante. In order for someone to qualify as a superhero, they have to have super powers. He's a hero, but not a superhero
I love this Bane. He is so cold and meticulous in his ability to plot out his actions. And he holds back nothing while also being such a psychological manipulator as well a vicious sadist.
The joker was extremely meticulous also, he was just weirdly modest IMO, like he wanted people to think he was just crazy, but that shit was well thought out.
Nah, people were just scared due to his sheer size and strength. I wouldn't respect him. More like hate his evilness.......... Thats how good Tom Hardy was when potraying Bane.👏👏
+Fiend Matador Me neither. The pain is one of, if not the most, physically debilitating and excruciating experiences one can feel in their lifetime. I never wish to feel such pain ever again, nor anyone else. Basically, it hurts, ALOT.
Been there, done that! I had a slipped disc right where the spinal column meets the hipbone a few years ago. I wanted my wife to shoot me and put me out of my misery it hurt so bad.
Any kind of back injury is the worst thing ever. You can damage so many other parts of the body and still be able to move, but a back injury forget it.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Strange and then I see this comment at that exact moment lol. When I was younger I did a front flip on my bed and landed awkwardly. I'm not sure what I did but was in excruciating pain originating from my spine. I had to spend a month almost entirely in bed because I couldnt even walk. But anyway every time I hear him grunt it immediately reminds me of that pain too.
I love how Bane sounds almost regretful when he tells Bruce that death isn’t a severe enough punishment. Like he sees what kind of broken man Bruce is, how he’s just waiting for death at this point, because Bane himself has been in that exact situation. Had probably wished for death when he was left broken and weak before Talia saved him and gave him a purpose again. Tom Hardy is one helluva an actor.
Watch his eyes when he says "...of your soul." they start not looking directly at Bruce, but are instead looking away staring into the middle distance as if he's lost in memory. Then when he says the words, they are spoken just slightly faster than the rest of his speech. It seems to me as if hes spitting them out quickly and his then his eyes immediately look downwards slightly, as if there is just a hint of sadness or shame. Banes utterly cold, ruthless malice and control flickers for just an instant as he admits the severity of torture hes about to inflict, having experienced that same torture himself. And Hardy does it all with his eyes, a pause, an almost imperceptible change in voice. Brilliant, brilliant acting.
The way Tom Hardy moves his eyes in this was so amazing, i could tell what he was feeling and expressing without having to see his whole face... amazing just amazing. Great casting
+El-Guapo Not really, to be honest. What made his character good was his very limited dialogue. If he has to deliver many lines in a movie, you can forget it.
California Combatives Club 209 sorry no marvel film comes close to dark knoght or this hardy and ledger put on the absolute best performances in a movie ive ever seen.... and if they had made joker the main villain in squad instead of a lame witch ... that movie also would have rocked ... KEEP DC DARK👍
Marvel has scenes that can be emotional but then it gets completely ruined by 5 jokes immediately after. I don’t even know what the DCEU does at this point
The Pit is actually Nolan's interpretation of the Lazarus Pit. A grounded pit. Seeming references to the Lazarus Pit in the film include: 1. Bruce healing from his injured back after being placed there by Bane (albeit over a period of 5 months) 2. A hallucination of Ra's al Ghul telling Bruce that "there are many forms of immortality", hinting that he is "immortal" through the birth of his daughter who was born in the Pit. 3. The death of Ra's al Ghul's wife in the Pit, who lost both of his wives (one of whom was Talia's mother) because of the Lazarus Pit in the comics; 4. The apparent insanity of the prisoners who killed Talia's mother, a common side effect of the Lazarus Pit.
+TheDarkKnight666 And being in The Pit metaphorically restores Bruce's strength and his fear of death and gives him the hope and motivation he needs to escape, go back to Gotham and save it sort of like the Lazarus Pit heals injuries and brings back the dead.
Actually The Pit represents Santa Prisca, the place of birth of Bane in the comics. He was molded by all that violence and paying for a crime he didn't commited.
wagnar obviously. He was saying that aside from being an obvious prison, with Nolan making the trilogy more realistic, that it could also be a metaphorical Lazarus Pit while staying realistic.
This scene epitomizes the Nolan touch on a film -- it's about the message, the allegories, the metaphors amidst the incredible adventure and action. (Even beyond this representing a Lazarus pit from which one can emerge/RISE, reborn.) Bane's explanation about how true despair requires hope, and how he plans to use this to truly terrorize Gotham (and Bruce) -- spectacular. The haters miss these moments and commentaries, or at least don't appreciate them. Love this scene.
The passion in his voice, the calm but deadly nature. So poetic. So evil... Yet so perfectly executed. Hands down,Bane is the greatest villain of all time
"Why didn't you just kill me?" This film doesn't get enough credit for having a depressed seemingly suicidal batman, at least for the first half. One who had just given up hope after hearing that the woman he had mourned for wanted to be with another man and then losing Alfred and his money.
its the only way t escape his true pain..he would rather die.life is worse then death at that moment..he has to find the will to live and be willing to break away batman forever...he needs fear to regain true gory
The most important things he lost was alfred & his money. Rachel should not have meant shit to him. Most hoes saw him as a walking wallet, he was just suppose to be banging them!
I love how Bane calmly and gently tells you what he's going to do. There is no manic craziness or games. The joker is the quintessential villain for Batman but I really feel like joker couldn't be a true criminal leader because he's too unstable. Nolan's interpretationof Bane was perfect for this trilogy.
"... But, as you well know, appearances can be deceiving. Which brings me back to the reason why we're here. We're not here because i'm poetic, we're here because i'm *not* poetic."
+Illya Van Hoof Bane also has hope. He has accomplished most of his dreams which includes taking over Gotham, breaking Batman, and slew of other things. Bane would be the perfect motivational speaker, he would ask what your dreams are. If it were to become an attorney, a nuclear engineer, a Ph.D level theoretical molecular electrodynamics chemist, and so forth... he then would tell you in 5 years, I'll come back and if you haven't accomplished your goal, he would kill you. Chances are you would accomplish those dreams of fear of death. The reality of it, when you have fear or indoctrinate some ideology or belief that makes you push yourself to your limits, you realize what it takes in becoming something that you had no idea you could be, then that dream becomes a reality.
+Nihilist The hell? None of you idiots have any clue what that phrase meant. Him saying that hope is a poison isn't some general term, he's saying it's a poison in relation to despair. "Feed them hope to poison their souls", with the despair being when the people of Gotham learned their true fate. The phrase means nothing without context.
+1czelaya You clearly pulled that line from Fight Club (the gas station scene), and you're using it like you're some kind of internet philosopher, when Durden's entire point wasn't that at all. He was clearly lying to the man; he wasn't going to kill him, or hunt him down in 5 years. Like he said in the movie, the point for the guy to wake up the next day and be grateful to be alive, a basic human emotion that you rarely feel, not what ever the heck you're saying...
This point is very interesting, more so than most people notice. What separates the villains from the truth is the unity of the people of Gotham. The Joker and Bane both believe Gotham’s people are rats and will eat each other to survive. The joker tries to prove this by creating ‘games’ like the boat game, where he says the boats must blow each other up to survive, but in the end neither do. Bane says they will scramble over each other to ‘reach the sun’ but really, the threat of impending doom only unites gothams people to find the bombs. Both villains believe the threat of impending doom will reveal gothams true sinister colours, but it only unites the people further. It’s a really interesting though and I thought the developers delivered it perfect.
The thing to remember is how they got to where they are when he says "but not of your body" Bane already beat the brakes off old Brucey at this point. The point is found in the choices made by Ra's al Ghul: He rejected Bane as his chosen one not because Bane was not qualified or capable of the task, he did so to remove a painful reminder from his world, Talia goes with him and, they are they are the passed over children. Bruce rejects the mission set by the league but, its because the passed over children interpret the events at the end of Batman Begins as Bruce actively or intentionally killing Ra's al Ghul Bane & Talia are compelled to avenge him from a deep sense of injustice rooted in the circumstances of their childhood their eventual escape from the circumstances into the League from which they acquired training and a sense of purpose and identity familial in it's undertones..... and this guy Bruce was taken in and made the chosen one betrayed the league and then through the training he had acquired from the league was able to also bring about the demise of Ra's al Ghul whose approval both these other two characters desperately desired- folks is inconsolably butthurt and took it personal and the concocted a personal response.
What makes this scene all the more terrifying is the tone in Bane’s voice. Unlike a lot of other vilains in that scenario, he doesn’t sound arrogant, overconfident or even hateful in regards to Gotham. No, he speaks to Bruce as if they’re having an everyday conversation over lunch. An everyday chat about how he’s going to drive a city to anarchy, before destroying it with a nuclear bomb.
"Every man who has rotted here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy… So simple… And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying." Damn. That's a cold line
While the Joker used Batmans weak points to break his spirit/soul by throwing him into situations where his physical strength and skills are useless Bane simply overcame Batmans skills by brute Force, broke his body and achieved the same goal. Pretty good in my eyes
"So as I terrorize Gotham, I will feed it's people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe they can survive so that you can watch them clamoring over each other to stay in the ☀. You can watch me torture an entire city. And then when you truly understood the depth of your failure, we will fulfill Ra's Al Ghul's destiny" Such a powerful dialogue. Bane really makes a good point.
Bane respects Bruce so much that he had him specially brought to his prison to make him understand his madness and despair. He is also a former brother of the shadows and trained with Ras… *Bruce also put up a good fight with Bane and probably is the only one who can do so.*
At 0:30 that pause and glance by bane, and then the words 'of your soul'. To me it seems he is thinking back to his time in the pit and how his soul was tortured. I dunno, this may seem really obvious to you lot.
Imagine you are Bane: You save & take care of this girl, she is your only friend and the only thing with any beauty you have ever known and you both know one day she has too leave and it's dangerous- She has to make the climb and you have to buy her the time to do it, you get hurt but she gets away. The doctor fucks up treating you and it leaves you in constant pain...... ......time moves on...... ....so much time..... ...... ..... and then one day a group of armed men storm the prison, your friend found her father and she has come to bring you home! In a sequestered mountain stronghold you receive training, education &, a purpose and as your one friend grew up that friendship grew into love for both of you but her father, the man you admire the most in the world rejects you from his ancient order. His daughter goes with you, though the rift from her father is a great pain to her she cannot abide him doing this to you when you have done nothing wrong. He finds a new disciple, trains him and is betrayed and when her father goes to finish his plan he dies fighting that disciple and Talia is grief stricken that he died before they could be reconciled. She plans a great vengeance against that disciple and needs your help and there is nothing you won't do for her even if it means you will both see very little of each other for years and then die at the end..... ....... But at least there is a part you can enjoy, you get to put the bricks to that disciple, I mean beat the fucking breaks off that fucker and make him watch you destroy his city and if that is only good part of the plan then squeeze all the good out of it you can. I like this interpretation of Bane, he had many very personal reasons to hate Bruce Wayne...... This story was awesome!
"There can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Gotham I will feed its people hope to poison their souls." I remember watching this in the theater and thinking that was one of the most evil things I've ever heard. It's still stuck with me all these years. It's far worse than bombs, murder and fear. What a concept.
This scene actually calls back to the first film. Cause Bruce was convinced at the beginning that it could not possibly get any worse since Rachel died but was proven wrong when he was here in this scene. Kind of how when he confronted the mob boss in Batman Begins he says "you think cause your parents are dead you know about the ugly side of life, well you don't, you've never tasted desperate".
I love how the villains in the dark knight trilogy are not just one dimensional bad guys are just evil just to be evil, there's humanity to them and scary enough some of the things that are said by them ring true
What really impressed me about Bane was that he had Batman in a position where he could have killed him and been done with it. But instead, he insisted that Batman needed his "permission" (watching Gotham collapse). Shows how superior he was to him up to that point.
One of the best scenes in the film. Bane's dialogue is riveting and the true brilliance of Tom Hardy's performance is perfectly portrayed in this scene. I also think his voice sounds he best in this scene. Honestly this movie is underrated. Everyone hates on it but it truly is a brilliant piece of cinema
I feel that the tone of Bane when he is speaking is a bit different as when he is in the city.. It is like he recalls of some terrible memory and past that he had before..
Tom Hardy does more with just his eyes in this scene then all the actors in the Twilight movies combined. 0:29-0:35 Those eyes. That's the sign of a damn good actor right there.
You gotta love how Bane says he's focused on torturing Bruce's soul. But when he leaves he slowly stands up while pressing on Bruce's chest just because he can.
Best scene in any movie ever is the prison scene...I mean come on not only is Nolan a genius director but also a genius writer...seriously though "like shipwrecked men turning to seawater from UNCONTROLLABLE THIRST"....."I learnt here that there can be no true despair without hope, so as i terrorize Gotham, i will feed their people hope to poison their souls...i will let them believe that they can survive so you can watch them clammering over each other to STAY IN THE SUN !!!" just SO EPIC.....I mean come on jeez the joker was amazing and demented but this guy is another level of evil....he is smart sophisticated and brutal all at once not only does he wanna kill the people but make them suffer !!!
*True that & the best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
Film theory. Bane understood as a villain and in general that he was doomed. These moments are him knowingly creating the monster he will have to fight. (Which kinda makes him even more scary) He knows Bruce Wayne was not going to give up. And he didn’t kill him initially because what does that do for him? Just immediately kills the things that makes his path “badass” or “admirable” to his peers. Idk it’s my idea it’s not a script. Don’t judge me.
That is the most geniusly horrendous prison. Escape just beyond your grasp - every day you think 'all I have to do is climb out". It's right there. It's worse than an island because on an island you have nothing. Here the sun shine down into darkness. A mere taste of potential freedom yet it is nearly impossible to grasp. Madness caused by hope. How uniquely evil.
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
It struck me that if this was Bane’s prison then, imagine how unimaginably scared the prisoners were when they realised a changed and more monstrous version of the Bane they knew, came back to claim the pit as his own. Especially with some of them knowing they were the reason he wears the mask.
Yes! It's so subtle. The eye looking down for a split second almost tearing up. The crack in his voice when he says soul. Just masterful. You know Bane has experienced exactly that torture of the soul before.
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
"There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth: hope. Every man who has rotted here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy. So simple. And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst... many have died trying. I learned here there can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Gotham, I will feed its people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe that they can survive so that you can watch them clambering over each other, to stay in the sun... You can watch me torture an entire city. And then when you have truly understood the depth of your failure, we will fulfill Ra's al Ghul's destiny... We will destroy Gotham. And then, when it is done, and Gotham is... ashes... then you have my permission to die." - Bane
Perhaps my favorite Bane moment in the film. He’s looser, relaxed, even a little vulnerable. His voice is the original version from the IMAX prologue before it was redubbed. Hardy’s just free to play with the material. Love it.
It's kind of funny because what Bane says is actually true. There really cannot be true despair without hope. The more you hope, the more desperate and dissapointed you become.
I think this is the best batman film of all time. Heath ledger did a hell of a job,who could be a better Bane? We are watching the rebirth of Bruce wayne/Batman. The joker couldn't get him to break his code,but bane broke everything else and the person who came out of the PIT was unbreakable.
People who ask how he figured out his identity didn't really pay attention during the movie. He used Daggett to turn Wayne broke and let Talia get Access to the fusion reactor Project. Even if anyone argues that he couldn't possibly find out Batman's true identity can't rule out the fact that Talia simply told him since they were working together.
In the animated Batman series Ra's al Ghul simply had considered the money and resources Batman needs to operate in Gothem, and ruled out Bruce Wayne's gotta be him. As for these movies, Leage of Shadows. They knew of Batmans identity obviously, and Bane took over what remained of it, after Ra's death.
In the Nolan series, Batman has to be the easiest identity to figure out. With the first two films, most people could give a benefit of a doubt but by TDKR. I mean, who wouldn't put together the first appearance, disappearance and reemergence of these two people. I'd figured Bane and Talia learned from surviving members of the league as I would expect Ra's Al Ghul to tell all his members of Wayne being involved the organization.
aaaand at what point does talia find out that bruce was batman? it never happens in the movie. it's only alluded to because talia and bane were trained by the league of shadows. which still makes no sense because they were excommunicated before bruce joined. plot hole through and through.
Talia was the daughter of Ra's al Ghul. She was probably even present at his initiation. She probably even met him while he was training. Use your fucking brain.
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
"Why didn't you just......kill me?" "Because you don't fear death, you welcome it" This scene is incredibly sad, Bane's voice sounds oddly sincere here which just adds to this character and the overall scene. I love it.
Bane's little glance to the area around him when he mentions bruces soul will be tortured also seems poignant. Like being down in the pit is already bringing back the most agonizing memories for him
I don't care what anybody says. Christian Bale was the best batman actor besides Michael Keaton. The Dark Knight Rises was the best Batman movie I ever saw.
I agree I loved this trilogy best Batman movies I've ever seen loved the acting and the fight scenes Christian Bale did amazing portraying Batman. I just hope Ben Affleck does good.
+Aaron Nantz Bale did the best emotional and dark performance, he brought the missing elements of batman into the character, he also brings Bruce Wayne's playboy side as well as when he talks to Alfred, they're chemistry is amazing
Bane didn't own batman in the film. Batman simply and unwisely underestimated the force that was being buit in his 8 year absence. Once he got the true taste (first fight scene) it was the beginning of the end for Bane (second fight scene)
Nope, at first he did and later in the fight he went all out attack. You dont understand batman was not holding back at all, he was old tired and out of shape and practice. He went to the pit and rediscovred who he was and became Banes equal.
"Batman simply and unwisely underestimated the force that.......", he got his ass whupped, plain and simple. I don't care that it happened because he didn't carry a decimal, Bane beat dat ass!
He beat his "ass" true. I'm simply stating why he was able to. Again second fight scene Batman not only whooped his ass but also put him into shock as to how he even escaped the pit that Bane never was able to.
You know. Bane is sadistically cruel. But using Bruce as a support to get up while Bruce having a broken back is just a dick power move. It’s the little things that set certain villains apart.
This is what I loved about having Bane as the main antagonist, the fact that his was an iconic turning point for Batman's Legacy. He gave Batman, what most would call, "a career- ending injury. And for those of us blessed enough to have read the comic book storyline this film was based on also know this: The iconic "Breaking of The Bat" came after Bruce had just got done battling a slew of villains and just got home, thoroughly exhausted. Bane, who had deduced Batman's secret identity, shows up and attacks him. Bruce tries his hardest, but in his current state, he just couldn't overcome Bane's overwhelming ferocity. Bane emerges victorious, and delivers the infamous back-breaker that seemingly ends Batman's career forever. .......Or does it? So, there are many who attempt to take on the mantle of The Bat, and there is a s***load of carnage. But in the end, Bruce comes back, Back fully healed through telekinesis from an ally and rigorous physical and mental re-training on Bruce's part, Batman comes back with his resolve stronger than ever, and takes down Bane, restores order to Gotham, and retakes his rightful place, as The g****** Batman! Bane hit Batman with a move that would have ended most superheroes for good, in place of some new person to adopt the name, but not Bruce. He said "F*** that s***!", and he beat Bane down and put that respect right back on his name, like a BOSS!!!
Bane's script was so theatrical and so well acted by Tom Hardy. And emotions shining just through his eyes goes incredibly well together.
I just... his eyes are just idk how to explain
CommanderCodyHD I hear you. Tom's eyes are so amazingly expressive. Every scene he had was absolutely breathtaking. I felt my heart stop in this scene in particular.. Stellar performance.
I was the 1000 like! Gg
@Radhakrishnan B joker did break Batman mentally. He killed Rachel and plenty of other people. That was enough
@@Ihavehadmanynames7779 Then I wondered if anyone other than Alfred and probably Blake saw towards Bruce's pain following that experience. But because The Joker isn't mentioned at all in this film, its kind of hard for other characters to see it. Any character who COULD'VE would've been Selina, since she ends up with Bruce towards the end.
This is basically the "I'm not killing the protagonist when I have the chance" cliche, but done right
I’ve got a gun in my room. I’ll go get it right now.
@KitchensAreHot Austin powers reference
@Strigers 800 Naah.. it reeks of overconfidence plot-armour cliché. If he (Bane) really intended on making sure Bruce remained/stayed there. He would've taken his feet. I would have.
David Μυρμιδόνες Then Bruce never has the moments of failing over and over again and feeling as if he will never succeed
@@TheJeff555 so you would gamble you're own safety on the mere thought of torturing someone without the joy of actually seeing it work? That's odd.
I feel like tom hardy dosnt get enough credit for his role as bane. His perforce has so much emotion despite his face being covered
Well said. Like Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut. So much emotion and depth is VERY HARD to convey behind a mask. brilliant performances.
This is not a smurf account. He will get the praise in Hollywood after overdosing. That’s the only way Hollywood gives a fuck about someone. Sickening
This is not a smurf account. Perforce?
Everybody praised Tom Hardy for this role! Its one of his biggest roles.
Guy's a gem, I like all his roles even in bad movies xD and he's hot as hell.
He basically admits here he's not the one who escaped the pit as a child. It's also hinted in the first fight when Bane says, "I didn't see the light until I was a man..." I mean, genius writing.
Holy crap I didn't even catch that!
Good catch! I didn't even notice.
Never even picked up on that until I read your comment just now🤯🤯🤯
In the first fight i noticed it the first time i watched it. But in this conversation i still dont. Where he admits it?
I noticed he wasnt the child cause I knew ra's kid was a girl and not guy
“There can be no true despair without hope.” Amazing line
@@ironsoul941 I agree. It is the absence of hope that leads to true despair. But whatever, its a Batman movie.
@@ironsoul941 yeah true despair comes cuz there is no hope but here what it meant is that its even worse that you can see the light and you can see your wscape way its just couple of steps away its just that easy but yet you can't do it at the end and people dying everyday so the true despair he is talking about is that yoy can see what you seek but yoy cant reach it no matter what you do is just torture
@@ironsoul941 and what confirms that he said he is a torturer of the soul and not the body
@@ironsoul941
Two scenarios, think that you are stranded on an island.
You have hope that you can be rescued, but rescue never comes. Or you don't have any hope for rescue to arrive.
It feels much more miserable to have hope as you think you have a chance, but really you don't. But without hope, you have probably accepted the fact that you will never be rescued.
@@FixedWing82 Two scenarios, think that you are stranded on an island.
You have hope that you can be rescued, but rescue never comes. Or you don't have any hope for rescue to arrive.
It feels much more miserable to have hope as you think you have a chance, but really you don't. But without hope, you have probably accepted the fact that you will never be rescued.
The Joker and Bane did not look like their actors at all. That was pretty scary how different they looked.
Steroids work wonders
Doxi99 gonna assume you have never heard of a Gym then?
Gotta appreciate the use of camera angles. (i.e. we're always looking up at Bane in this scene as if we're lying down too) Hardy is 5'9' and Bale is 6'0", so they did a great job the whole film making it appear that Bane was not only jacked but tall too
Doxi99 Banes Physique is Easily achievable without steroids.
Jamie Stewart
Not at that rate. He gained like 20 lbs of muscles in less than a year.
"Torture?"
"Yes, but not of your body...of your soul." Opens Twilight and begins reading aloud.
You’re a fucking monster man why would you that?
"Edward's shirtless torso sparkled in the sunlight."
"How can you...stand this?"
"It was perfect, like a marble statue glistening in the dew."
"Ha, after you were excommunicated by The League of Shadows, you joined Team Edward."
Slams book shut. ಠψಠ ".....We both know that I have to kill you now."
This is more cruel than being left in the pit for months
But Bane didn't want to kill bruce.
Joker:Even to a guy like me that's cold
He toys with him, then breaks him. Then he puts him to shame just by the mere sound of his voice. Bane utterly owned Batman in this film in more aspects than one.
Except Bane got owned by Batman at the end of the film in more aspects than one.
Batman is my favorite superhero but it could of been the same result for Batman if he didn't break Bane's mask.
Ryan DeKnoblough And Bane, If Batman was not retired for 8 years...
Ryan DeKnoblough Batman isn't a superhero. He's an vigilante. In order for someone to qualify as a superhero, they have to have super powers. He's a hero, but not a superhero
JohnTheFiscal ConservativeAtheist But he can do what other vigilantes can't.
I love this Bane. He is so cold and meticulous in his ability to plot out his actions. And he holds back nothing while also being such a psychological manipulator as well a vicious sadist.
Just like how Bane should be.
He’s a big guy
The joker was extremely meticulous also, he was just weirdly modest IMO, like he wanted people to think he was just crazy, but that shit was well thought out.
@@Zaneekubo shhhh we’re not talking about the joker rn
why didn't he have guards outside the pit?
I'm glad that after a blistering fight between the two, they can still have a really nice conversation with each other.
+Mat C lol the conversation was about bane torturing Gotham and torturing batman plz tell m how that's a nice conversation
+Farid Damasio no lol not at all
Communication is key!
He's going to torture Gotham and Batman's soul, but you know... let bygones be bygones.
I totally get the joke but that was less of a conversation more of a victory speech
Banes voice is very soothing for some reason...... damn, his presence just demands respect.
for you
somebody get this hothead outta here
Yeah Doritos I have a speaker his voice is one it
Nah, people were just scared due to his sheer size and strength. I wouldn't respect him. More like hate his evilness.......... Thats how good Tom Hardy was when potraying Bane.👏👏
Delta Emerald b thhg bbgb
You don’t fear death… *you welcome it.*
Your punishment must be more severe.
Torture
Yes, but not of your body......... of your soul
I only just get it now. Bane is denying Bruce an easy escape of death. Torturing his soul was the only was Batman could realise his error.
Where am I?
@@zac3194 home
Damn. You can feel the emotion in Bane when he says "so easy. so simple." You can tell that he was broken too until he had Talia to focus on.
Damn right.. the soft tone just gives it away!
yes is amazing!!
I always thought he was just mocking the prisoners.
"And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying" who writes this stuff? very creative
it's a referance to the story ''rime of the ancient mariner". Look it up makes the speech tha much better!
nolan british people are so creative in there words
@Eddie Bacon Perhaps, but if you're shipwrecked you probably aren't going to be able to do that.
@@vincentcisneros1099 Or the Iron Maiden song.
Bone-chilling O.o
Oh dear god... the way he grunts in pain sounds way too fucking real. I know what spinal injuries feel like I don't need a fucking reminder holy shit.
+Fiend Matador Me neither. The pain is one of, if not the most, physically debilitating and excruciating experiences one can feel in their lifetime. I never wish to feel such pain ever again, nor anyone else. Basically, it hurts, ALOT.
Been there, done that! I had a slipped disc right where the spinal column meets the hipbone a few years ago. I wanted my wife to shoot me and put me out of my misery it hurt so bad.
+SERGIO BACA Why shrug 400? That's pointless and doesn't even make traps grow. I've never seen a guy with yoked traps doing those heavy ass shrugs.
Any kind of back injury is the worst thing ever. You can damage so many other parts of the body and still be able to move, but a back injury forget it.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Strange and then I see this comment at that exact moment lol. When I was younger I did a front flip on my bed and landed awkwardly. I'm not sure what I did but was in excruciating pain originating from my spine. I had to spend a month almost entirely in bed because I couldnt even walk. But anyway every time I hear him grunt it immediately reminds me of that pain too.
I hate to admit it but Bane owned my ass that moment.
hahahahahahah, LOL
Yeah he owned your ass literally😭
Why is it always about bottoms with you people?
or owned your back?
Yep
I love how Bane sounds almost regretful when he tells Bruce that death isn’t a severe enough punishment. Like he sees what kind of broken man Bruce is, how he’s just waiting for death at this point, because Bane himself has been in that exact situation. Had probably wished for death when he was left broken and weak before Talia saved him and gave him a purpose again.
Tom Hardy is one helluva an actor.
Very reflective, and I can understand the perspective. 👍
Watch his eyes when he says "...of your soul." they start not looking directly at Bruce, but are instead looking away staring into the middle distance as if he's lost in memory. Then when he says the words, they are spoken just slightly faster than the rest of his speech. It seems to me as if hes spitting them out quickly and his then his eyes immediately look downwards slightly, as if there is just a hint of sadness or shame. Banes utterly cold, ruthless malice and control flickers for just an instant as he admits the severity of torture hes about to inflict, having experienced that same torture himself. And Hardy does it all with his eyes, a pause, an almost imperceptible change in voice. Brilliant, brilliant acting.
It's the nuances, baby
2:21 @@krypton1982
The way Tom Hardy moves his eyes in this was so amazing, i could tell what he was feeling and expressing without having to see his whole face... amazing just amazing. Great casting
Very very good actor. Compared to all the other actors in a superhero or supervillain role who always have their masks off because they can't act
+PermanentHigh i think sebastian stan as the winter soldier was very well acted as well
+DarthPapi071 omg big deal i move my eyes like that when i shit
you see his eye movement and it's more prominent because he doesn't blink. usually people blink when they turn to look somewhere else. watch it again.
+El-Guapo Not really, to be honest. What made his character good was his very limited dialogue. If he has to deliver many lines in a movie, you can forget it.
The MCU and DCEU can't hold a candle to rich dialogue like this film.
best joker can
best joker black panther coems.close
California Combatives Club 209 sorry no marvel film comes close to dark knoght or this hardy and ledger put on the absolute best performances in a movie ive ever seen.... and if they had made joker the main villain in squad instead of a lame witch ... that movie also would have rocked ... KEEP DC DARK👍
Marvel has scenes that can be emotional but then it gets completely ruined by 5 jokes immediately after. I don’t even know what the DCEU does at this point
thanos just did bitches
The Pit is actually Nolan's interpretation of the Lazarus Pit. A grounded pit. Seeming references to the Lazarus Pit in the film include:
1. Bruce healing from his injured back after being placed there by Bane (albeit over a period of 5 months)
2. A hallucination of Ra's al Ghul telling Bruce that "there are many forms of immortality", hinting that he is "immortal" through the birth of his daughter who was born in the Pit.
3. The death of Ra's al Ghul's wife in the Pit, who lost both of his wives (one of whom was Talia's mother) because of the Lazarus Pit in the comics;
4. The apparent insanity of the prisoners who killed Talia's mother, a common side effect of the Lazarus Pit.
+TheDarkKnight666 One last thing: Bane, the successor of Ra's, emerges from the pit and takes Batman down after Ra's is gone.
+TheDarkKnight666 And being in The Pit metaphorically restores Bruce's strength and his fear of death and gives him the hope and motivation he needs to escape, go back to Gotham and save it sort of like the Lazarus Pit heals injuries and brings back the dead.
Actually The Pit represents Santa Prisca, the place of birth of Bane in the comics. He was molded by all that violence and paying for a crime he didn't commited.
Northwestvietkieu Good analysis.
wagnar obviously. He was saying that aside from being an obvious prison, with Nolan making the trilogy more realistic, that it could also be a metaphorical Lazarus Pit while staying realistic.
Best Bane scene. Hell of a monologue.
This scene epitomizes the Nolan touch on a film -- it's about the message, the allegories, the metaphors amidst the incredible adventure and action. (Even beyond this representing a Lazarus pit from which one can emerge/RISE, reborn.) Bane's explanation about how true despair requires hope, and how he plans to use this to truly terrorize Gotham (and Bruce) -- spectacular. The haters miss these moments and commentaries, or at least don't appreciate them. Love this scene.
I can't imagine how or why a lot of people say this movie is not good!
Michael Hall bane vs the orphan knight
People don't appreciate literature much anymore. They want to know technical crap like what happened to the nuke.
***** Couldn't have said it better myself.
***** Very True.
The passion in his voice, the calm but deadly nature. So poetic. So evil... Yet so perfectly executed. Hands down,Bane is the greatest villain of all time
Agreed
None can beat joker....
Sorry
@@Abhijit_Mishra91exactly 😂 OR darth vader, Thanos
"Why didn't you just kill me?"
This film doesn't get enough credit for having a depressed seemingly suicidal batman, at least for the first half. One who had just given up hope after hearing that the woman he had mourned for wanted to be with another man and then losing Alfred and his money.
I broke you...how have you come back??
its the only way t escape his true pain..he would rather die.life is worse then death at that moment..he has to find the will to live and be willing to break away batman forever...he needs fear to regain true gory
The most important things he lost was alfred & his money. Rachel should not have meant shit to him. Most hoes saw him as a walking wallet, he was just suppose to be banging them!
Money means nothing to him
Gold diggers can be strangers or well known to the family. If she gave a shit about Bruce she would not have led him on or curved him
I love how Bane calmly and gently tells you what he's going to do. There is no manic craziness or games. The joker is the quintessential villain for Batman but I really feel like joker couldn't be a true criminal leader because he's too unstable. Nolan's interpretationof Bane was perfect for this trilogy.
The joker in Dark knight was a lone wolf that no one messed with.
Tom hardys bane still has more face expressions with his mask than Kristen Stewart in her whole acting career
I'll humbly accept the award
Funny, but not true. Panic room. PLAY THE TUNES!!
HE'S THAT GUUUUYYY!
She also has Bane's permission to die.
Paranoid Android immensely....She has and will always be GROSSLY OVERRATED!!"
LMAO!!! TRUTH!!!
"Like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst."
"Bane, you're so poetic."
"...thank you."
Jordanime why’d you quote yourself? Lol
I think that was supposed to be Bruce
* for you
"... But, as you well know, appearances can be deceiving. Which brings me back to the reason why we're here. We're not here because i'm poetic, we're here because i'm *not* poetic."
He is amazingly deep- I like that in a villain 👍
"and when you truly understood the depth of your failure" Wow......
Powerful line!
He’s brutal
Underrated dialogue
@@BharatKumar-dc2el ... For you.
Alec Jones Do you feel in charge?
That's a lovely lovely voice
for you
Christopher Rivas I see what you did there
I like Bane's voice in this scene. It's so soothing.
Soothing until "then, you have my permission to die."
AJ King
Are you telling me that bane doesn't turn you on?
Thank you, Bane. I will try harder at life now.
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+Illya Van Hoof Bane also has hope. He has accomplished most of his dreams which includes taking over Gotham, breaking Batman, and slew of other things. Bane would be the perfect motivational speaker, he would ask what your dreams are. If it were to become an attorney, a nuclear engineer, a Ph.D level theoretical molecular electrodynamics chemist, and so forth... he then would tell you in 5 years, I'll come back and if you haven't accomplished your goal, he would kill you. Chances are you would accomplish those dreams of fear of death. The reality of it, when you have fear or indoctrinate some ideology or belief that makes you push yourself to your limits, you realize what it takes in becoming something that you had no idea you could be, then that dream becomes a reality.
+Nihilist The hell? None of you idiots have any clue what that phrase meant. Him saying that hope is a poison isn't some general term, he's saying it's a poison in relation to despair. "Feed them hope to poison their souls", with the despair being when the people of Gotham learned their true fate. The phrase means nothing without context.
+1czelaya You clearly pulled that line from Fight Club (the gas station scene), and you're using it like you're some kind of internet philosopher, when Durden's entire point wasn't that at all. He was clearly lying to the man; he wasn't going to kill him, or hunt him down in 5 years.
Like he said in the movie, the point for the guy to wake up the next day and be grateful to be alive, a basic human emotion that you rarely feel, not what ever the heck you're saying...
+Kitsch Blues ineed, Tyler Durden said that he must begin achieving his dream in 6 weeks or he wil be dead.
Bane sort of proved jokers theory as well. 1:20-1:40
“When all the cards are down, these so called civilized people will eat each other”
I noticed that theme throughout all 3 movies
This point is very interesting, more so than most people notice.
What separates the villains from the truth is the unity of the people of Gotham. The Joker and Bane both believe Gotham’s people are rats and will eat each other to survive. The joker tries to prove this by creating ‘games’ like the boat game, where he says the boats must blow each other up to survive, but in the end neither do. Bane says they will scramble over each other to ‘reach the sun’ but really, the threat of impending doom only unites gothams people to find the bombs. Both villains believe the threat of impending doom will reveal gothams true sinister colours, but it only unites the people further. It’s a really interesting though and I thought the developers delivered it perfect.
"madness as you know is a lot like gravity, all it takes is a little push"
The joker did cause the justice league to war against each other he also did cause superman to freak out and kill lois
@@michaelmyers3278 all the leaguers and even sometimes batman included underestimate the joker
“This prison is the worst hell on earth”, but there’s cable...
It is part of the torture really..."But not of your body...Of your soul."
That’s cute.
There's cable...
For you
There may be cable, but it's only one channel that can't be changed.
Yeah GNN, Gotham news network
The little eye shift he does when he says "of your soul" is amazing. Only a great actor can convey so much emotion through eyes alone.
“Then you have my permission to die.” Gives me chills.
0:29 "but not of your body....."
2:16 puts at least 1/3 of his weight on batman's broken back
Lmao that jackass
+PermanentHigh he does it so casually too, like "oh imma just use you to stand up, thanks bruh"
The thing to remember is how they got to where they are when he says "but not of your body" Bane already beat the brakes off old Brucey at this point.
The point is found in the choices made by Ra's al Ghul: He rejected Bane as his chosen one not because Bane was not qualified or capable of the task, he did so to remove a painful reminder from his world, Talia goes with him and, they are they are the passed over children.
Bruce rejects the mission set by the league but, its because the passed over children interpret the events at the end of Batman Begins as Bruce actively or intentionally killing Ra's al Ghul Bane & Talia are compelled to avenge him from a deep sense of injustice rooted in the circumstances of their childhood their eventual escape from the circumstances into the League from which they acquired training and a sense of purpose and identity familial in it's undertones..... and this guy Bruce was taken in and made the chosen one betrayed the league and then through the training he had acquired from the league was able to also bring about the demise of Ra's al Ghul whose approval both these other two characters desperately desired- folks is inconsolably butthurt and took it personal and the concocted a personal response.
@@robdeskrd Damn son, you went full blown Freud there
@@jaap8232 Freud was a hack and on the blow
What makes this scene all the more terrifying is the tone in Bane’s voice. Unlike a lot of other vilains in that scenario, he doesn’t sound arrogant, overconfident or even hateful in regards to Gotham. No, he speaks to Bruce as if they’re having an everyday conversation over lunch. An everyday chat about how he’s going to drive a city to anarchy, before destroying it with a nuclear bomb.
"Why didn't you just kill me?"
"Because we're only one hour into the movie, and the audience wouldn't be thrilled if that happened."
Hahahaha
I read that in his voice.
And this gives you power over me?
"Because it's all part of the plan."
That actually sounds awesome 😂
"You could watch me torture an entire city...."
The way he says this line is perfect, and hilarious at the same time.
i thought i was the only one hhahahah
How is it hilarious?
Ah dark humor at it's richest
@@guyhaseeb you’re stupid
@@guyhaseeb it’s just how humorously dramatic it would sound irl and it isn’t exactly something you’d hear someone say.
Simply AMAZING storytelling. The Dark Knight Trilogy. Rich dialogue, narrative, action scenes, character development epic. Thank you Cris Nolan.
Tom hardy is incredible
For you
Jacob McMillan MASTERFUL!!"
"Every man who has rotted here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy… So simple… And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying."
Damn. That's a cold line
While the Joker used Batmans weak points to break his spirit/soul by throwing him into situations where his physical strength and skills are useless Bane simply overcame Batmans skills by brute Force, broke his body and achieved the same goal. Pretty good in my eyes
Brilliant acting
This monologue about Hope and Despair chills me to the bone every time I listen to it. Might be one of my favorite villain monologues of all time.
Nagito Komaeda and Junko Enoshima would both be creaming their pants.
The look Bane gives in 0:29 is why i consider hardys performance amazing.
One of the coldest scenes in the trilogy
"So as I terrorize Gotham, I will feed it's people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe they can survive so that you can watch them clamoring over each other to stay in the ☀. You can watch me torture an entire city. And then when you truly understood the depth of your failure, we will fulfill Ra's Al Ghul's destiny"
Such a powerful dialogue. Bane really makes a good point.
I love this kind of cinematography and lighting.
Bane respects Bruce so much that he had him specially brought to his prison to make him understand his madness and despair. He is also a former brother of the shadows and trained with Ras… *Bruce also put up a good fight with Bane and probably is the only one who can do so.*
I love that Bane’s mask is essentially covering the opposite parts of Batman’s mask.
A truly brilliant performance. Hardy gives so much expression just through his eyes, movements and voice. Amazing.
2:15 The pain! Bale’s acting is so great you can feel it!
At 0:30 that pause and glance by bane, and then the words 'of your soul'. To me it seems he is thinking back to his time in the pit and how his soul was tortured.
I dunno, this may seem really obvious to you lot.
Simply masterful indeed...”
Imagine you are Bane:
You save & take care of this girl, she is your only friend and the only thing with any beauty you have ever known and you both know one day she has too leave and it's dangerous-
She has to make the climb and you have to buy her the time to do it, you get hurt but she gets away. The doctor fucks up treating you and it leaves you in constant pain......
......time moves on......
....so much time..... ...... ..... and then one day a group of armed men storm the prison, your friend found her father and she has come to bring you home!
In a sequestered mountain stronghold you receive training, education &, a purpose and as your one friend grew up that friendship grew into love for both of you but her father, the man you admire the most in the world rejects you from his ancient order.
His daughter goes with you, though the rift from her father is a great pain to her she cannot abide him doing this to you when you have done nothing wrong.
He finds a new disciple, trains him and is betrayed and when her father goes to finish his plan he dies fighting that disciple and Talia is grief stricken that he died before they could be reconciled.
She plans a great vengeance against that disciple and needs your help and there is nothing you won't do for her even if it means you will both see very little of each other for years and then die at the end.....
....... But at least there is a part you can enjoy, you get to put the bricks to that disciple, I mean beat the fucking breaks off that fucker and make him watch you destroy his city and if that is only good part of the plan then squeeze all the good out of it you can.
I like this interpretation of Bane, he had many very personal reasons to hate Bruce Wayne...... This story was awesome!
it made him the way he is...so bruce can finally see why he thinks the way he does..he had a soul when he saved talia but the pit took it out of him..
"There can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Gotham I will feed its people hope to poison their souls."
I remember watching this in the theater and thinking that was one of the most evil things I've ever heard. It's still stuck with me all these years. It's far worse than bombs, murder and fear. What a concept.
This scene actually calls back to the first film. Cause Bruce was convinced at the beginning that it could not possibly get any worse since Rachel died but was proven wrong when he was here in this scene. Kind of how when he confronted the mob boss in Batman Begins he says "you think cause your parents are dead you know about the ugly side of life, well you don't, you've never tasted desperate".
And the quote from his father "why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up."
I love how the villains in the dark knight trilogy are not just one dimensional bad guys are just evil just to be evil, there's humanity to them and scary enough some of the things that are said by them ring true
Nicholas Stevenson ehhh I don’t know about Scarecrow haha. Liked his portrayal but I think he just wanted the world fucked up like he was 😂
this is true, because they lived a life without privileges and only received the worst of this life
What really impressed me about Bane was that he had Batman in a position where he could have killed him and been done with it. But instead, he insisted that Batman needed his "permission" (watching Gotham collapse). Shows how superior he was to him up to that point.
"You don't fear death. You welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe "
@@jonjones487 "torture? "
@@martmandred9182 yes. But not of your body. But of your soul
@@jonjones487 Where am I?
@@martmandred9182 Home. Where I learned the truth about despair. As will you. There's a reason why this prison is called the worst Hell on earth
One of the best scenes in the film. Bane's dialogue is riveting and the true brilliance of Tom Hardy's performance is perfectly portrayed in this scene. I also think his voice sounds he best in this scene. Honestly this movie is underrated. Everyone hates on it but it truly is a brilliant piece of cinema
“To stay...in the sun.”
I love how sinister Toms tone is
I feel that the tone of Bane when he is speaking is a bit different as when he is in the city.. It is like he recalls of some terrible memory and past that he had before..
I also feel like bane has alot of respect for batman as well
Tom Hardy does more with just his eyes in this scene then all the actors in the Twilight movies combined.
0:29-0:35 Those eyes. That's the sign of a damn good actor right there.
My eyes are pretty too
@@thebatman4484 you have very sexy eyes, batman
And now Robert Pattinson is the next batman. We hated Twilight so much and compared that shit to Batman trilogy, look where it got us
🙃🙃
@@etpaprika And it's a damn good thing, too
You gotta love how Bane says he's focused on torturing Bruce's soul. But when he leaves he slowly stands up while pressing on Bruce's chest just because he can.
Bane:what!? you really think i would hurt you only phycologically and not physically!?😂
Best scene in any movie ever is the prison scene...I mean come on not only is Nolan a genius director but also a genius writer...seriously though "like shipwrecked men turning to seawater from UNCONTROLLABLE THIRST"....."I learnt here that there can be no true despair without hope, so as i terrorize Gotham, i will feed their people hope to poison their souls...i will let them believe that they can survive so you can watch them clammering over each other to STAY IN THE SUN !!!" just SO EPIC.....I mean come on jeez the joker was amazing and demented but this guy is another level of evil....he is smart sophisticated and brutal all at once not only does he wanna kill the people but make them suffer !!!
The moment when he says 'of your soul', his voice and his eyes........just perfect, powerful stuff!
Out of all 3 movies this movie taught me more about life .
I love how Bruce has to go on the same journey as his enemy by escaping from the pit. A new journey to say the least.
*True that & the best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
Film theory. Bane understood as a villain and in general that he was doomed. These moments are him knowingly creating the monster he will have to fight. (Which kinda makes him even more scary) He knows Bruce Wayne was not going to give up. And he didn’t kill him initially because what does that do for him? Just immediately kills the things that makes his path “badass” or “admirable” to his peers. Idk it’s my idea it’s not a script. Don’t judge me.
That is the most geniusly horrendous prison. Escape just beyond your grasp - every day you think 'all I have to do is climb out". It's right there. It's worse than an island because on an island you have nothing. Here the sun shine down into darkness. A mere taste of potential freedom yet it is nearly impossible to grasp. Madness caused by hope. How uniquely evil.
Agreed
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
It struck me that if this was Bane’s prison then, imagine how unimaginably scared the prisoners were when they realised a changed and more monstrous version of the Bane they knew, came back to claim the pit as his own. Especially with some of them knowing they were the reason he wears the mask.
The expression in bane's eyes are just terrine, amazing.
0:27 to 0:36 - That fucking line! I love how Hardy delivers it
Yes! It's so subtle. The eye looking down for a split second almost tearing up. The crack in his voice when he says soul. Just masterful. You know Bane has experienced exactly that torture of the soul before.
1:05 Love the part where Bane says "A light ship wrecked men turning to seaward, for boncontrotable fast." Gets me everytime.
Don't you mean seawater and uncontrollable thirst? But yes. This quote became my favourite metaphor for desperation and inequal relations.
@@Senate300 whoosh
it really isn’t that hard to understand him, maybe in some scenes but you’re just dragging it
@@Omarboyy It's literally what I hear him say. Sue me.
So easy... So simple. God I love that line.
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
"Than...when you truly have understood the depths of your failure"
Damn man that shit alone would break a mans soul.
"Then you have my permission to die"
Dude f chills...
"There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth: hope. Every man who has rotted here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy. So simple. And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst... many have died trying. I learned here there can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Gotham, I will feed its people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe that they can survive so that you can watch them clambering over each other, to stay in the sun... You can watch me torture an entire city. And then when you have truly understood the depth of your failure, we will fulfill Ra's al Ghul's destiny... We will destroy Gotham. And then, when it is done, and Gotham is... ashes... then you have my permission to die." - Bane
-Tell me where the trigger is, then you have my permission to die - Batman before getting backstabbed.
Thx!
Perhaps my favorite Bane moment in the film. He’s looser, relaxed, even a little vulnerable. His voice is the original version from the IMAX prologue before it was redubbed. Hardy’s just free to play with the material. Love it.
It's kind of funny because what Bane says is actually true. There really cannot be true despair without hope. The more you hope, the more desperate and dissapointed you become.
Bane: "You can watch me torture an entire city."
Joss Whedon: "You can watch me torture an entire fanbase."
PS yes I edited this. #snydercut
+Serial Crepeist The way Snyder handled the political storyline of Superman having to much athority reminded me of Superman 4.
He did pretty much turn Doomsday in Nuclear Man
+Neo Machine Don't forget the 'fight', and the infamous Martha scene
you must have been missinformed. wb is the one torturing fanbases, they cut a ton of scenes out of bvs and suicide squad.
Alec Fisher At least SS worked.
I love how this exchange feels less like a gloating villainous speech and more like an actual conversation.
Two of the greatest actors of our generation in one classic scene
The Dark Knight Bane is on par with MCU Thanos, on how evil, menacing, and perfect lines that they give
0:06 Bruce Wayne waking up after going on a date with Cardi B.
I think this is the best batman film of all time. Heath ledger did a hell of a job,who could be a better Bane? We are watching the rebirth of Bruce wayne/Batman. The joker couldn't get him to break his code,but bane broke everything else and the person who came out of the PIT was unbreakable.
Hardy's work with his eyes is impeccable in this scene.
People who ask how he figured out his identity didn't really pay attention during the movie. He used Daggett to turn Wayne broke and let Talia get Access to the fusion reactor Project. Even if anyone argues that he couldn't possibly find out Batman's true identity can't rule out the fact that Talia simply told him since they were working together.
In the original comics he deducted Batman's identity within a year so perhaps that was a reference to it as well.
In the animated Batman series Ra's al Ghul simply had considered the money and resources Batman needs to operate in Gothem, and ruled out Bruce Wayne's gotta be him.
As for these movies, Leage of Shadows. They knew of Batmans identity obviously, and Bane took over what remained of it, after Ra's death.
In the Nolan series, Batman has to be the easiest identity to figure out. With the first two films, most people could give a benefit of a doubt but by TDKR. I mean, who wouldn't put together the first appearance, disappearance and reemergence of these two people. I'd figured Bane and Talia learned from surviving members of the league as I would expect Ra's Al Ghul to tell all his members of Wayne being involved the organization.
aaaand at what point does talia find out that bruce was batman? it never happens in the movie. it's only alluded to because talia and bane were trained by the league of shadows. which still makes no sense because they were excommunicated before bruce joined. plot hole through and through.
Talia was the daughter of Ra's al Ghul. She was probably even present at his initiation. She probably even met him while he was training. Use your fucking brain.
"There can be no true despair without hope" Bane is so sinister
*The best part of it all is, the only way to escape the "pit" you have to climb up high, etc without any type of safety nets, basically you have to say to yourself 'if you die trying to get out of the Abyss, then you die, many die trying to get out of the pit with their "safety nets" far-less without their safety nets.*
“... We will destroy Gotham. And then, when it is done, and Gotham is - - ashes... then you have my permission to die.”
The writing is so solid :)
Bane's eyes though, so amazing how you can see into his tortured soul. The voice, the eyes. Tom Hardy did an amazing job with this character.
"Why didn't you just......kill me?"
"Because you don't fear death, you welcome it"
This scene is incredibly sad, Bane's voice sounds oddly sincere here which just adds to this character and the overall scene. I love it.
Bane's little glance to the area around him when he mentions bruces soul will be tortured also seems poignant. Like being down in the pit is already bringing back the most agonizing memories for him
Bruce isn’t afraid to die?
The way Bane uses his hand on Bruce to get get up after he breaks him n tells him to sssshh. Haha love it 😁
I don't care what anybody says. Christian Bale was the best batman actor besides Michael Keaton. The Dark Knight Rises was the best Batman movie I ever saw.
I agree I loved this trilogy best Batman movies I've ever seen loved the acting and the fight scenes Christian Bale did amazing portraying Batman. I just hope Ben Affleck does good.
+Aaron Nantz Bale did the best emotional and dark performance, he brought the missing elements of batman into the character, he also brings Bruce Wayne's playboy side as well as when he talks to Alfred, they're chemistry is amazing
True except some parts like the crappy fighting scenes.
So far Bale is still the BEST.
+Ballistic Fingerprints Good everything except fight scenes. I mean they were entertaining, just slow.
Dark Knight Rises showed that you can break Batman's back but never his Spirit.
He's unassailable!
What a great underrated movie.
I don't know how they did it, but damn near every line that comes out of this man's mouth is fucking iconic.
Agreed
Tom Hardy's voice as Bane is like chocolate.
Heath Ledger may have been the best actor but Bane was by far the best villain in the whole trilogy, guy was a straight fuckin demon
Bane didn't own batman in the film. Batman simply and unwisely underestimated the force that was being buit in his 8 year absence. Once he got the true taste (first fight scene) it was the beginning of the end for Bane (second fight scene)
So true.
Nope, at first he did and later in the fight he went all out attack. You dont understand batman was not holding back at all, he was old tired and out of shape and practice. He went to the pit and rediscovred who he was and became Banes equal.
"Batman simply and unwisely underestimated the force that.......", he got his ass whupped, plain and simple. I don't care that it happened because he didn't carry a decimal, Bane beat dat ass!
He beat his "ass" true. I'm simply stating why he was able to. Again second fight scene Batman not only whooped his ass but also put him into shock as to how he even escaped the pit that Bane never was able to.
Selfless01 bane fuck that ass up hahaha I enjoyed it great fight. The second one was better not because of batman winning, But it was a brawl!
You know. Bane is sadistically cruel. But using Bruce as a support to get up while Bruce having a broken back is just a dick power move. It’s the little things that set certain villains apart.
This is what I loved about having Bane as the main antagonist, the fact that his was an iconic turning point for Batman's Legacy.
He gave Batman, what most would call, "a career- ending injury. And for those of us blessed enough to have read the comic book storyline this film was based on also know this:
The iconic "Breaking of The Bat" came after Bruce had just got done battling a slew of villains and just got home, thoroughly exhausted. Bane, who had deduced Batman's secret identity, shows up and attacks him. Bruce tries his hardest, but in his current state, he just couldn't overcome Bane's overwhelming ferocity. Bane emerges victorious, and delivers the infamous back-breaker that seemingly ends Batman's career forever.
.......Or does it?
So, there are many who attempt to take on the mantle of The Bat, and there is a s***load of carnage. But in the end, Bruce comes back, Back fully healed through telekinesis from an ally and rigorous physical and mental re-training on Bruce's part, Batman comes back with his resolve stronger than ever, and takes down Bane, restores order to Gotham, and retakes his rightful place, as The g****** Batman!
Bane hit Batman with a move that would have ended most superheroes for good, in place of some new person to adopt the name, but not Bruce. He said "F*** that s***!", and he beat Bane down and put that respect right back on his name, like a BOSS!!!