All I’ll say about Kratos and Ratchet: if PlayStation treated this like the MCU, Kratos would be Thor, and Ratchet would be Rocket Raccoon. That would be their dynamic, in my head.
This fight is like putting Superman against Ironman, no traps or gadgets could fuck with Kratos in any meaningful way. Plus Spartan Rage would completely cancel out Ratchet trying to make Kratos dance, Bless is insane
Playing as Atreus would be really interesting, if there's a time skip and he is the one going after the Norse Gods, having bow options as well as kratos' weapons, i feel like Atreus would be a more tactically brutal then Kratos
I think Ragnorok is more metaphorical keeping the “father” focus story going. I think it means Atreus gets kidnapped by Freya and Kratos’s world is over. Atreus is Kratos’s world. And the brainwashing into Loki begins. We met Loki for the new God of War 3.
I wonder if they will follow some of the stories in the Ragnarok. I mean Balder’s death triggers Ragnarok which in some ways they did show, Except ofcourse Hodr killing Balder with an mistletoe projectile. However In some ways Loki or Atreus had a hand in the killing which was true to the story. Pretty cool twist of the story. So deaths like Odin being swallowed by Fenrir, Vidar killing Fenrir in vengeance, Garm and Tyr dying from each other, Thor also dying from each other to Jormungandr, and also Heimdall vs Loki. I would like to see some interpretation of those with a twist ofcourse that Kratos had a hand in those fight.
Check it out, Atreus' mom was Fey, which was short for Laufey. We know that traditionally Oden fought the giants and took Loki as his own. So what if you have it backward? Say thor shows up and fights kratos, then when kratos inevitably kills thor near the beginning of the game Oden shows up, flips out and takes Atreus as punishment for killing his son. So then the game becomes pissed off kratos making his way to asgard and killing oden himself so as to save his son, and much like in older GoW games, because kratos defeated thor in one on one combat he then has mjolnir and a whole new skill tree to work his way down. But when you finally kill oden, it turns out that Atreus has been poisoned toward Kratos and is set up to be the bad guy for the next game. That way you get your star wars episode 6 dark ending that sets up the 3rd game. A thematically appropriate twist on the original mythology that also solves the power reset problem. After all, it's called ragnarok which is essentially the end of the world, and for a parent is losing one's only child not the end of the world?
Fun fact, while in helheim mimir tells Kratos that time flows differently across the 9 realms. Jhotenheim's time-flow is much faster than that of midgard (we know this because when returning to midgard, mimir states that more time has passed than they realize and filmbelwinter has begun, therefore, ragnorok has likely already taken place in jhotenheim (and this would explain how the giant's knew about Kratos and Atreaus's advetures and why the giants are all already dead). Excuse my spelling on some of this norse stuff, didn't feel like looking all of it up! Also, my personal prediction for the next game is that Kratos will die by Thor in the beginning and be sent to helheim (where we will finally get to fight that giant bird!) and then have to make our way to Asgard to rescue Atreaus - who is the last of the giants (except for the giant snake and Sotr, the giant with the flaming sword destined to blow up the Asgard wall and injur Odin in Ragnorok - that's known from a mimir tale).
My ultimate hope for the God of War trilogy, is that Ragnarok brings the end to the Norse pantheon, only for Kratos to discover other pantheons, like the Egyptian gods, teased in Tyr's vault. I can't imagine them staying in the Norse pantheon after a game called "Ragnarok"
It's not confirmed to be called Ragnarok though. Personally I think the game will be about trying to prevent Ragnarok, and the game will end with Ragnarok seemingly prevented only to still happen in some unexpected way (maybe Atreus causes it) and then the third game is full blown Ragnarok.
Keep in mind that it’s not confirmed the game is called Ragnarok. The teaser just said “Ragnarok is coming”. So as far as we know this whole 2nd game is the build up to Ragnarok.
I think the set up is for Freya. Queen of the Valkyries, got her wings back and she has a bone to pick with Kratos and swore vengeance. So game 2 is Thor, game 3 is Freya as antagonist.
I think it would be interesting to have gameplay as both kratos and atreus and you can issue commands to the other if you're playing as one .it would make puzzles more interesting and combat go even further into there father son relationship
Atreus turns Kratos into the World Serpent in order to save his life after Thor mortally wounds him after jumping in front of his hammer that was intended for Atreus.
I would've never thought of that omg. Also isn't Loki the world serpent's father? That would be a very interesting interpretation of that, since the World Serpent at that could be considered to be born from Atreus.
There's no way in hell they'll do the "Kratos dies at the beginning and Atreus goes on a revenge quest" thing. It's too similar to The Last of Us Part II and I doubt Santa Monica Studios would want to copy that plot-point, considering the fact that God of War (2018) was heavily compared to the first The Last of Us as well, so they'll want to do something completely different.
Guys I hope that the first thing we do when the game starts is walk down a nice hallway in either jotunheim or asgard, as Tyr, but we don't know it's Tyr bc his back is to the camera. We get a portrait of just a really kind, caring, worldly man and then at the end of the hallway he says something eluding to helping the giants and then the camera pans around and we see his eyes and we're like OH SHIT. Then atreus wakes up and it's like a few days before Thor shows up or something and he reminisce about his mother and maybe we find out that was mother was instrumental in the giants escape or something.
I want the most cinematic boss battle of all time with Thor. Also I expect a time skip and I can see playing as maybe a teenage Atreus. I also see going to Asgard and maybe Odin being a boss as well
I feel that. Have you seen Sunny Suljic lately? He's huge compared to how he was in Mid-90s and the first game. I definitely think that unless this game is actually coming this year (meaning that they'd been making it since like 2018) we can expect a time-skip.
For the external HDD issues, I reformatted it and had to redownload the games again but it's been 2 months no issues. Where previously everyday I had issues
In GOW2018 Mimir mentions that at Ragnarok, Thor and the World Serpent battle, and the clash is so epic that it causes a rift and sends the World Serpent back through time. While trying to cure Atreus near the middle of the story, we hear the horn, and Mimir mentions that someone called the Serpent off-screen. '''So who called the serpent?''' What if... the fight between Kratos and Thor at the start of the next game sends Kratos and/or Atreus back in time! And that was them calling the serpent! I added a bit more to this on the KF subreddit if you want more details: www.reddit.com/r/kindafunny/comments/lqmow5/interesting_god_of_war_ragnarok_theories_and_facts/
This is a great convo. Blessing touched on it, but I think the underlying theme of patricide wasn't discussed enough. My guess is that either Thor kills Kratos or Atreas/Loki kills Kratos by accident. As Kratos is dying he reveals that he's not really his father, but in fact ODIN is his real dad. Setting off Atreas/Loki's quest to kill his dad, Odin and leaving that theme of murdering your parents across all the games.
What if kratos dies at the start by the hands of thor which triggers the equivalent of spartan rage in atreus enabling atreus to survive until thor retreats (for now) then atreus finds Freya who shows him a way to time travel into the future (probably using the world serpent ) so older atreus can kill thor which in turn cancels out thor murder of kratos. The catch is atreus can't then travel back to the past leaving the set up for the third game where kratos has to find a way to reunite with his lost son. Not sure where and how ragnorok happens but it's just a possible theory I thought of.
A way to keep another God of War reboot/continuation after a Kratos death would be to introduce Tyr and have him befriend Atreus. There's a mural in God of War (2018) hinting that Tyr has traveled all over the world where he encountered gods and goddesses from various mythologies, one of which being Egyptian mythology (which I know nothing about). But perhaps after the death of Kratos, Tyr being a friend of Atreus, tells him about an ancient practice he learned from another part of the world. Atreus, not wanting his father to spend his afterlife in Niflheim, proceeds to mummify Kratos... ~ Then years later, an explorer named Drathan Nake discovers the mummified Kratos and the movie with Brendan Fraser ensues ~
Loki is meant to be chained up in the underworld during Fimblewinter with a snake dripping venom on his face & his wife catching the venom in a cup to protect him (it's his punishment for killing Baldur). Loki's also meant to have had his kid's by now (World Serpent, Fenrir & Hel) - I think the first game has already hinted towards some time travel elements with the World Serpent being around when Loki is still a child - Fenrir is also meant to be chained up by now (costing Tyr his hand - so things are clearly going to be very different as Tyr is meant to be dead in the first game). But could see the next game ending with Kratos taking Loki's place & being chained up (maybe not right at the end but a swapped protagonist like in Last Of Us?) - then God of War 3 Kratos breaks his chain's & goes apeshit on the God's - maybe Atreus rescues him near the start of the 3rd game? There's a few ways this could go.
Ratchet and Kratos are both in PlayStation All-Stars, we should have them go against each other in that as bots to see who wins or maybe Blessing and Greg could go head to head.
Has anyone put any thought into it - that God of War Ragnarok is just DLC from the 2018 game that got big enough for its own game.. much similar to Uncharted Lost Legacy.
I'm 100% with Greg. Ratchet might put up a decent fight from range, but eventually Kratos will get his hands on Ratchet, and when he does, Kratos is tearing him to pieces.
All the loot on GoW was unique and had to be acquired in special ways, what are you talking about? That was the best thing, it was the only game I felt like has ever done loot totally right.
The prep time stipulation gets so nebulous. How much time do they have? Do they gain knowledge of each other or do they just know they're about to go into a death battle? If they do gain knowledge of each other, how much? Do they just see each other or do they get to do meta research on each other? Prep time makes death battles way more complicated and harder to figure out the average outcome of. You gotta do it with them starting blind with no prep or knowledge of each other, and typical arsenal on them. And in that scenario, I'm giving it to Kratos since hes way more durable and probably has more cumulative fighting experience. Also ratches has a lot of wacky guns, but he still has to hit kratos with them.
It’s a nice full circle if Kratos is stopping the world from washing over and being destroyed in GOW 5 (or 2?) as he is the one who destroyed it in the Greek World, some nice opposing sides.
I really hope Ragnarok brings back the incredible screen filling boss battles from the original GOW games. The story and direction of the reboot were incredible, but man were the enemies and bosses boring. I would also love to see the same level of weapon options from GOW 3.
Prediction: Kratos will "die", Valkyries bring him to Valhalla (which as a reminder, is in Asgard) since they owe him for setting them free. Now Kratos is suddenly in the same realm as all the Aesir Gods and he'll go absolutely ham.
Since Helheim is a realm that can be accessed at anytime provided you have the means to get there, is that how his death would work? Obviously we don't know, but what do you think happens? I think his soul would go to the Greek underworld for the reason I mentioned earlier, although it could all be based on where you are in the world even though it seems like The World Tree granting access to other pantheons might mean that it's the one true religion or something. Even though looking at Kratos and Mimir you could just physically travel to other locations ruled by other gods
Let’s not forget the fact that Faye foreshadowed Kratos’ death. And right after the protagonists killed Baldur Kratos admitted that he would allow Atreus to kill him if needed for him to be saved. So I think that’s gonna be a great way to take control of Atreus afterwards realizing the mistake he’ll probably make
I’m surprised no one has brought up that Ratchet vs. Kratos is somewhat similar to Batman vs. Superman. My vote goes to Ratchet but before he kills Kratos, Kratos yells out Martha and Ratchet and Kratos become Kinda Funny best friends.
I'd like if Kratos dies and Atreus decides at the end of Ragnarok to kind of discover himself in a new place, which brings in the travel stone and the different mythologies teased in the first game.
1) Blessing is getting thumped by Chicken-Kratos no matter what he does. 2) Didn’t Cory Barlog say in the spolier-cast that the initial written story for the new God of War was so vast they had enough story for 3 games. Maybe it was a bit of an exaggeration but if it’s true it could make sense as to how the game will be out by 2021. 3) Ragnarok basically is the end of Asgard and the gods that inhabit it. So it could very possibly be that Kratos and Atreus have to go fight Thor and Odin due to events that happened in the first game and inadvertently is fulfilling those prophecies. While fighting one of the last big-bads(Odin) Kratos dies leaving Atreus in a fit of rage which is the final nail in the coffin for the gods and brings about their end as depicted in the end of GoW(2018) as something coming out of Atreus’s mouth which he holds on to his fathers dead body.
Kratos wins all day. Kratos can both dish out and take more damage than Ratchet event though Ratchet has a wider range of weaponry. And I agree with Greg that as soon as Kratos gets his hands on Ratchet its light out
I just wanna say that, the next GOW, it'll happen in this second timeline that we are playing in the first game, and the Leviathan Axe has the poison that kills thor, which is eitr, the poison of jormungandr. Thor Already killed Farbauti, that came back in time and he is the world serpent. Ps: I think cory barlog should tell about fibulwinter, Fey and Freya, and Ragnarok should happen in the third game or maybe in the final of the second one.
There's a few loose plot threads the game drops near the end, clearly setting up Ragnarok. First, the Dwarf brothers even say that it feels like something Kratos did has set Ragnarok in motion. This could be a red herring, I think Kratos is being manipulated (just like in the original trilogy ... imagine that) into starting Ragnarok for Odin. But remember that right at the end of the game, we're shown not only Kratos lying in repose, but further along the fresco, Loki walking off with his wolves (consistent with Norse myth). The game also leaned heavily on the "son kills the parent" themes from both the first trilogy and as they also happen in the new game. Atreus has impulse issues, and even mentions getting angry at Kratos. I think it would make it more likely that Thor and Odin are the chief antagonists in GOW2, with ATREUS being the big bad of the third game. Will they pull a TLOU2 and have you play as Atreus and have him kill Kratos at the end of GOW3? I think it's entirely possible.
the 3rd person combat was an issue for me. It was hard to tell when enemies were behind you. Felt stiff. Also, more enemy variety. Other than that, the original was great.
I've experienced stick drift and everything associated with controller degradation so much more with the ds4 over the ds3. For the life of my PS3 I only ever had 2 controllers. I'm currently on my 7th ds4. I think a big reason blessing and Greg haven't noticed it as bad is because they don't play much in terms of competitive shooters. Having logged about 4k hours in destiny 1 and 2 and over 1k in Apex, I assure you these sticks have major drift problems lol
I find it funny when the discussion here is they are leaving shit out just for a third game. These are the dumbest discussions honestly because maybe just maybe, Cory has a plan for 3 games guys. Just like how they were always setting up more to come in this game why the hell dont you think they will do more setup in the second game? Sometimes I find the over theorizing is why people are left disappointed these days. Either they paint their own picture and cant let it go and enjoy the experience for what it is (literally what happened with TLOU2 for a lot of you out there who couldnt get over your own ideas rather than appreciate how good the story presented actually was) or you get angry that you guessed everything right. Like there is no way to win so I just root for the creatives to make what they wanted and hope that what they make is what they are proud of than just making a story to cater to fans.
I would normally agree with you bc that is genuinely what happens most of the time on the internet. But there's one thing I've learned about these guys over the years, and that's that they very seldom fall into the negativity traps that most of the internet fall into. In fact a lot of times they make a concerted effort to do just the opposite.
I think there wasn't enough mention of Atreus' latent arrogance and rage. I think before all this is over, Atreus is going to retrace his father's steps and do a lot of morally questionable things. Imagine that Kratos is kidnapped and Atreus has to fend for himself and grows resentful of the world that has taken everything away from him. Atreus grows more powerful and bolder throughout his journey and starts to become more and more similar to old Kratos, wrecking everything in his path, good or bad, ever seeking to become like his dad, mighty and unstoppable. At the end of the game, Kratos is saved and confronts Atreus, telling him he is wrong and has to stop otherwise he'll destroy everything. Expecting to receive his father's praise for "becoming a man", Atreus feels desperate and betrayed and kills him in a fit of rage. This breaks him from his path of destruction and he starts his journey to fix what he broke.
everyone keeps thinking that Kratos is gonna be the one to be kidnapped or killed by Thor at the start of the next game, but what if Atreus is taken since he will be the key to Ragnarok or maybe some hidden giants. Honestly, i just want to play as Kratos and not another bow character when probably Horizon will be launched close to GoW.
Ratchet vs. Kratos: During the opening few hours of GoW 2018, Kratos fights a small group of human men. I believe that if you don’t fight back, you can die during that fight. If Kratos can die to regular men, Ratchet’s guns **cough cough The Rhino cough cough** can ABSOLUTELY kill him. THAT SAID, Kratos has died before and he literally punched his way out of Hell. So Ratchet would win the fight, but Kratos will keep coming back for revenge.
What the hell? Kratos made a life for himself by hunting down and killing literal gods. Now I'm no big city scientist, but it seems to me like whatever the hell a lombax is is likely roughly the size of a raccoon. So let me ask you this, who would win in a one on one fight between rocket raccoon and thor? Stupid question right? Thor would fucking vaporize rocket by the time he could cock his fancy gun. And what does the leviathan axe do that the omni wrench don't? Um, let's see... cut, sever, dismember, freeze, and all manner of magical AOE attacks. C'mon.. and who says a chicken gun would even work on a being like kratos?
That's NOT what I said. Tim wanted next-gen predictions, and I said if I had to make one, it'd be that. And an announcement is far different than you holding it in your hands, my friend. - Greg
Also I really think that Kratos is being used again. His wife foresaw it all so I don't think it's an accident that she found him. It'd be fucked up but i'm very interested to see if they go down the path of Kratos coming to terms with the fact that he has once again been a pawn of powerful beings. I think that if they don't go down that path, then either Freya, Thor, or Odin will try to gaslight him with that notion at some point in the game. They went through such great lengths to portray Atreus' mother as perfect and it would be good to see that not be the case or at least see that notion played with. I think it'd be a great way to make her a super complex character, or they could do the same thing but instead of the mother using Kratos, it's Tyr who used the mother (sorry I can't remember her name, I think it's Faye but i'm not sure).
I believe Atreus will at some point fake his death (which may or may not be a staple of Loki) and make Kratos lose his mind going full blast Ultra Spartan Instinct and fold Odin and Thor like paper.
So the entire pantheon of Greek gods and Blade of Olympus couldn't even kill Kratos, and you're adding prep for Kratos as well. There's no way Kratos goes out without taking out every living thing along with him lol.
If I had to go off the wall crazy: Atreus is a teen in the next one. He falls in love with one of the gods daughters (no idea who this would be). Kratos main thing is not trusting gods so this leads to a rift where they ended up fighting. Kratos dies. Atreus carries on for him blah blah blah fight Thor. IN THE THIRD GAME Atreus struggles between his father's teachings of distrust and his love for this god person. Something something something Kill the past. Game ends with Atreus having a child and wondering if the cycle of child killing parent continues
I honestly think the next God Of War is just going to lead up to what will be Ragnorak in the third installment of this trilogy. In the announcement trailer, it just says Ragnorak is coming, which doesnt necessarily mean the second installment will be about ragnorak. Plus everyone calls it God Of War: Ragnorak but really neither Playstation nor Sony Santa Monica has actually given the actual title.
So that's where those tweets came from lol
All I’ll say about Kratos and Ratchet: if PlayStation treated this like the MCU, Kratos would be Thor, and Ratchet would be Rocket Raccoon. That would be their dynamic, in my head.
This fight is like putting Superman against Ironman, no traps or gadgets could fuck with Kratos in any meaningful way. Plus Spartan Rage would completely cancel out Ratchet trying to make Kratos dance, Bless is insane
100% here for the Kratos Ratchet debate. It's Kratos in a landslide, but I gotta see where this goes hahahha
Dude I would love some fan art of kratos holding ratchet ripped in two pieces at the end of a crazy battle
Playing as Atreus would be really interesting, if there's a time skip and he is the one going after the Norse Gods, having bow options as well as kratos' weapons, i feel like Atreus would be a more tactically brutal then Kratos
I think Ragnorok is more metaphorical keeping the “father” focus story going. I think it means Atreus gets kidnapped by Freya and Kratos’s world is over. Atreus is Kratos’s world. And the brainwashing into Loki begins. We met Loki for the new God of War 3.
Freya's beef is with Kratos, considering how caring she was in the first game I doubt she'd go after the kid.
@@knightofastora916 I can easily see her taking the "an eye for an eye" route and going after Kratos son.
That makes sense O__o
I think most important feature we need in GOW Ragarok is that Brok and Sindri come back! And we need more interactions with them!
The real question noone has asked: will we fight that huge ass birdperson in Helheim?!
No he killed that bird already 😳
@@WillOnCode when??
Been waiting all week for this, thank you!
I wonder if they will follow some of the stories in the Ragnarok. I mean Balder’s death triggers Ragnarok which in some ways they did show, Except ofcourse Hodr killing Balder with an mistletoe projectile. However In some ways Loki or Atreus had a hand in the killing which was true to the story. Pretty cool twist of the story. So deaths like Odin being swallowed by Fenrir, Vidar killing Fenrir in vengeance, Garm and Tyr dying from each other, Thor also dying from each other to Jormungandr, and also Heimdall vs Loki. I would like to see some interpretation of those with a twist ofcourse that Kratos had a hand in those fight.
Check it out, Atreus' mom was Fey, which was short for Laufey. We know that traditionally Oden fought the giants and took Loki as his own.
So what if you have it backward?
Say thor shows up and fights kratos, then when kratos inevitably kills thor near the beginning of the game Oden shows up, flips out and takes Atreus as punishment for killing his son.
So then the game becomes pissed off kratos making his way to asgard and killing oden himself so as to save his son, and much like in older GoW games, because kratos defeated thor in one on one combat he then has mjolnir and a whole new skill tree to work his way down.
But when you finally kill oden, it turns out that Atreus has been poisoned toward Kratos and is set up to be the bad guy for the next game.
That way you get your star wars episode 6 dark ending that sets up the 3rd game.
A thematically appropriate twist on the original mythology that also solves the power reset problem.
After all, it's called ragnarok which is essentially the end of the world, and for a parent is losing one's only child not the end of the world?
the thing is tho.... i want to play as Kratos
Fun fact, while in helheim mimir tells Kratos that time flows differently across the 9 realms. Jhotenheim's time-flow is much faster than that of midgard (we know this because when returning to midgard, mimir states that more time has passed than they realize and filmbelwinter has begun, therefore, ragnorok has likely already taken place in jhotenheim (and this would explain how the giant's knew about Kratos and Atreaus's advetures and why the giants are all already dead). Excuse my spelling on some of this norse stuff, didn't feel like looking all of it up!
Also, my personal prediction for the next game is that Kratos will die by Thor in the beginning and be sent to helheim (where we will finally get to fight that giant bird!) and then have to make our way to Asgard to rescue Atreaus - who is the last of the giants (except for the giant snake and Sotr, the giant with the flaming sword destined to blow up the Asgard wall and injur Odin in Ragnorok - that's known from a mimir tale).
I believe tyr has a big part to play in this. Some ppl think kratos is tyr
I am still convinced Atreus is Tyr in this world and he goes through out time to help people.
Kratos is the God of War, he can fight in any form.
Loki killing Baldur is the event that sets Fimbulwinter and Ragnarok into motion.
I'm happy with whatever God of War content is pushed my way. Definitely rooting against you Greg, we want a 2021 release!
My ultimate hope for the God of War trilogy, is that Ragnarok brings the end to the Norse pantheon, only for Kratos to discover other pantheons, like the Egyptian gods, teased in Tyr's vault. I can't imagine them staying in the Norse pantheon after a game called "Ragnarok"
It's not confirmed to be called Ragnarok though. Personally I think the game will be about trying to prevent Ragnarok, and the game will end with Ragnarok seemingly prevented only to still happen in some unexpected way (maybe Atreus causes it) and then the third game is full blown Ragnarok.
Keep in mind that it’s not confirmed the game is called Ragnarok. The teaser just said “Ragnarok is coming”. So as far as we know this whole 2nd game is the build up to Ragnarok.
I think the set up is for Freya. Queen of the Valkyries, got her wings back and she has a bone to pick with Kratos and swore vengeance. So game 2 is Thor, game 3 is Freya as antagonist.
I think it would be interesting to have gameplay as both kratos and atreus and you can issue commands to the other if you're playing as one .it would make puzzles more interesting and combat go even further into there father son relationship
Atreus turns Kratos into the World Serpent in order to save his life after Thor mortally wounds him after jumping in front of his hammer that was intended for Atreus.
I would've never thought of that omg. Also isn't Loki the world serpent's father? That would be a very interesting interpretation of that, since the World Serpent at that could be considered to be born from Atreus.
There's no way in hell they'll do the "Kratos dies at the beginning and Atreus goes on a revenge quest" thing. It's too similar to The Last of Us Part II and I doubt Santa Monica Studios would want to copy that plot-point, considering the fact that God of War (2018) was heavily compared to the first The Last of Us as well, so they'll want to do something completely different.
I would be pleasantly surprised if Kratos survives. Give him a Solid Snake ending. "Snake had a hard life..." 😭😭
Guys I hope that the first thing we do when the game starts is walk down a nice hallway in either jotunheim or asgard, as Tyr, but we don't know it's Tyr bc his back is to the camera. We get a portrait of just a really kind, caring, worldly man and then at the end of the hallway he says something eluding to helping the giants and then the camera pans around and we see his eyes and we're like OH SHIT. Then atreus wakes up and it's like a few days before Thor shows up or something and he reminisce about his mother and maybe we find out that was mother was instrumental in the giants escape or something.
The two wildcards for me: 1) Ratchet can freeze Kratos and change weapons on the fly 2) I'm not sure Kratos wants that Mr Zurkon smoke.
I want the most cinematic boss battle of all time with Thor. Also I expect a time skip and I can see playing as maybe a teenage Atreus. I also see going to Asgard and maybe Odin being a boss as well
I feel that. Have you seen Sunny Suljic lately? He's huge compared to how he was in Mid-90s and the first game. I definitely think that unless this game is actually coming this year (meaning that they'd been making it since like 2018) we can expect a time-skip.
For the external HDD issues, I reformatted it and had to redownload the games again but it's been 2 months no issues. Where previously everyday I had issues
In GOW2018 Mimir mentions that at Ragnarok, Thor and the World Serpent battle, and the clash is so epic that it causes a rift and sends the World Serpent back through time. While trying to cure Atreus near the middle of the story, we hear the horn, and Mimir mentions that someone called the Serpent off-screen. '''So who called the serpent?'''
What if... the fight between Kratos and Thor at the start of the next game sends Kratos and/or Atreus back in time! And that was them calling the serpent! I added a bit more to this on the KF subreddit if you want more details: www.reddit.com/r/kindafunny/comments/lqmow5/interesting_god_of_war_ragnarok_theories_and_facts/
Even till today I'm not sure how Cole MacGrath takes a shower? And if he can't take a shower, ever, is it still worth it to have that power?
Cory Barlog listening to the Chicken Kratos conversation is either rolling his eyes or on the floor laughing his ass off.
How does Atreus become the new God of War if he is Loki?
This is a great convo. Blessing touched on it, but I think the underlying theme of patricide wasn't discussed enough. My guess is that either Thor kills Kratos or Atreas/Loki kills Kratos by accident. As Kratos is dying he reveals that he's not really his father, but in fact ODIN is his real dad. Setting off Atreas/Loki's quest to kill his dad, Odin and leaving that theme of murdering your parents across all the games.
What if kratos dies at the start by the hands of thor which triggers the equivalent of spartan rage in atreus enabling atreus to survive until thor retreats (for now) then atreus finds Freya who shows him a way to time travel into the future (probably using the world serpent ) so older atreus can kill thor which in turn cancels out thor murder of kratos. The catch is atreus can't then travel back to the past leaving the set up for the third game where kratos has to find a way to reunite with his lost son. Not sure where and how ragnorok happens but it's just a possible theory I thought of.
A way to keep another God of War reboot/continuation after a Kratos death would be to introduce Tyr and have him befriend Atreus. There's a mural in God of War (2018) hinting that Tyr has traveled all over the world where he encountered gods and goddesses from various mythologies, one of which being Egyptian mythology (which I know nothing about). But perhaps after the death of Kratos, Tyr being a friend of Atreus, tells him about an ancient practice he learned from another part of the world. Atreus, not wanting his father to spend his afterlife in Niflheim, proceeds to mummify Kratos...
~ Then years later, an explorer named Drathan Nake discovers the mummified Kratos and the movie with Brendan Fraser ensues ~
The Omniwrench being equivalent to the Leviathan Axe is a historically bad take, sorry Bless 😂😂
Blessing can't even finish off a chick-fil-a sandwich , let alone a Kratos chicken
I bet a Kratos chicken sandwich would buuurrrrnnnnn like a mfer
Kratos will sacrifice himself to save Atreus and that will be the catalyst for ragnarok. Just a thought XD
Then it will be another Last of Us 2
I could see that in a third game, but then again wouldn’t be surprised if Kratos has to escape Helheim or something similarly epic
Loki is meant to be chained up in the underworld during Fimblewinter with a snake dripping venom on his face & his wife catching the venom in a cup to protect him (it's his punishment for killing Baldur).
Loki's also meant to have had his kid's by now (World Serpent, Fenrir & Hel) - I think the first game has already hinted towards some time travel elements with the World Serpent being around when Loki is still a child - Fenrir is also meant to be chained up by now (costing Tyr his hand - so things are clearly going to be very different as Tyr is meant to be dead in the first game).
But could see the next game ending with Kratos taking Loki's place & being chained up (maybe not right at the end but a swapped protagonist like in Last Of Us?) - then God of War 3 Kratos breaks his chain's & goes apeshit on the God's - maybe Atreus rescues him near the start of the 3rd game?
There's a few ways this could go.
What about the war with the other realms.
Ratchet and Kratos are both in PlayStation All-Stars, we should have them go against each other in that as bots to see who wins or maybe Blessing and Greg could go head to head.
Has anyone put any thought into it - that God of War Ragnarok is just DLC from the 2018 game that got big enough for its own game.. much similar to Uncharted Lost Legacy.
Thanks, going back to platinum God of War now!
I'm 100% with Greg. Ratchet might put up a decent fight from range, but eventually Kratos will get his hands on Ratchet, and when he does, Kratos is tearing him to pieces.
I think Atreus is getting a wolf ally at one point, maybe two to match the lore of the two wolves chasing the sun and moon.
i gotta check out some of those Dreams that Blessing mentioned. I just bought it on sale for $10 but haven't jumped in yet
Kratos literally has the Infinity gauntlet
All the loot on GoW was unique and had to be acquired in special ways, what are you talking about? That was the best thing, it was the only game I felt like has ever done loot totally right.
I think my problem is that literally 90 percent of it is useless, there’s like 5 sets that you should think about using and the rest are garbage.
@@larrymccarthy5409 no?
The prep time stipulation gets so nebulous. How much time do they have? Do they gain knowledge of each other or do they just know they're about to go into a death battle? If they do gain knowledge of each other, how much? Do they just see each other or do they get to do meta research on each other? Prep time makes death battles way more complicated and harder to figure out the average outcome of. You gotta do it with them starting blind with no prep or knowledge of each other, and typical arsenal on them. And in that scenario, I'm giving it to Kratos since hes way more durable and probably has more cumulative fighting experience. Also ratches has a lot of wacky guns, but he still has to hit kratos with them.
How about we play as Thor for a small section thus leading to a god of thunder spin-off game!
Blessing hanging out with Nick too much... 😂 what a take
It’s a nice full circle if Kratos is stopping the world from washing over and being destroyed in GOW 5 (or 2?) as he is the one who destroyed it in the Greek World, some nice opposing sides.
the beginning of this episode was just a big teaser for playstation all stars battle royale 2
Sony's response to the Dualsense drift: "I fix it."
Must be nice most of the time you want to play a game you just reach out for a code !
I have played the game already and the final boss is Greg
I really hope Ragnarok brings back the incredible screen filling boss battles from the original GOW games. The story and direction of the reboot were incredible, but man were the enemies and bosses boring. I would also love to see the same level of weapon options from GOW 3.
Horde mode/battles would fit God of War very nicely
Prediction: Kratos will "die", Valkyries bring him to Valhalla (which as a reminder, is in Asgard) since they owe him for setting them free. Now Kratos is suddenly in the same realm as all the Aesir Gods and he'll go absolutely ham.
Since Helheim is a realm that can be accessed at anytime provided you have the means to get there, is that how his death would work? Obviously we don't know, but what do you think happens? I think his soul would go to the Greek underworld for the reason I mentioned earlier, although it could all be based on where you are in the world even though it seems like The World Tree granting access to other pantheons might mean that it's the one true religion or something. Even though looking at Kratos and Mimir you could just physically travel to other locations ruled by other gods
Bless...you couldn’t even catch a real live chicken stop kidding yourself bruh
Let’s not forget the fact that Faye foreshadowed Kratos’ death. And right after the protagonists killed Baldur Kratos admitted that he would allow Atreus to kill him if needed for him to be saved. So I think that’s gonna be a great way to take control of Atreus afterwards realizing the mistake he’ll probably make
I’m surprised no one has brought up that Ratchet vs. Kratos is somewhat similar to Batman vs. Superman. My vote goes to Ratchet but before he kills Kratos, Kratos yells out Martha and Ratchet and Kratos become Kinda Funny best friends.
Also another thing will we see a war with the other Pantheons? Weren't they kinda alluding to that in GoW wasn't that Odin's plan.
Kratos would totally own Ratchet
Yeah it's not close...
Greg, play Dark Souls III. It sounds like what you're looking for at the moment.
I'd like if Kratos dies and Atreus decides at the end of Ragnarok to kind of discover himself in a new place, which brings in the travel stone and the different mythologies teased in the first game.
Blessing as Ratchet will still have glasses. Chicken plucks those glasses off and Blessing is done for. RIP
Beyond!
BEYOND! - Greg
1) Blessing is getting thumped by Chicken-Kratos no matter what he does.
2) Didn’t Cory Barlog say in the spolier-cast that the initial written story for the new God of War was so vast they had enough story for 3 games. Maybe it was a bit of an exaggeration but if it’s true it could make sense as to how the game will be out by 2021.
3) Ragnarok basically is the end of Asgard and the gods that inhabit it. So it could very possibly be that Kratos and Atreus have to go fight Thor and Odin due to events that happened in the first game and inadvertently is fulfilling those prophecies. While fighting one of the last big-bads(Odin) Kratos dies leaving Atreus in a fit of rage which is the final nail in the coffin for the gods and brings about their end as depicted in the end of GoW(2018) as something coming out of Atreus’s mouth which he holds on to his fathers dead body.
Ragnarok + better fov is a start
Kratos wins all day. Kratos can both dish out and take more damage than Ratchet event though Ratchet has a wider range of weaponry. And I agree with Greg that as soon as Kratos gets his hands on Ratchet its light out
I just wanna say that, the next GOW, it'll happen in this second timeline that we are playing in the first game, and the Leviathan Axe has the poison that kills thor, which is eitr, the poison of jormungandr. Thor Already killed Farbauti, that came back in time and he is the world serpent.
Ps: I think cory barlog should tell about fibulwinter, Fey and Freya, and Ragnarok should happen in the third game or maybe in the final of the second one.
There's a few loose plot threads the game drops near the end, clearly setting up Ragnarok. First, the Dwarf brothers even say that it feels like something Kratos did has set Ragnarok in motion. This could be a red herring, I think Kratos is being manipulated (just like in the original trilogy ... imagine that) into starting Ragnarok for Odin. But remember that right at the end of the game, we're shown not only Kratos lying in repose, but further along the fresco, Loki walking off with his wolves (consistent with Norse myth).
The game also leaned heavily on the "son kills the parent" themes from both the first trilogy and as they also happen in the new game. Atreus has impulse issues, and even mentions getting angry at Kratos. I think it would make it more likely that Thor and Odin are the chief antagonists in GOW2, with ATREUS being the big bad of the third game. Will they pull a TLOU2 and have you play as Atreus and have him kill Kratos at the end of GOW3? I think it's entirely possible.
Blessing clearly hasn't play Guacamelee if he doesn't think its possible for Kratos to do work as a chicken
iOS 14.5 will support next gen controllers for remote play. It's in beta right now but should be ready in a month or two.
New ps vr announced this morning an gran turismo 7 delayed till 2022
the 3rd person combat was an issue for me. It was hard to tell when enemies were behind you. Felt stiff. Also, more enemy variety. Other than that, the original was great.
Atreus is too young (and weak) to be the protagonist in a GoW game, I absolutely don't see it happening with the next one.
Give me a Guillermo del Toro Shadow of the Colossus movie
Aloy and Atreus end up together at the end XP
I've experienced stick drift and everything associated with controller degradation so much more with the ds4 over the ds3. For the life of my PS3 I only ever had 2 controllers. I'm currently on my 7th ds4. I think a big reason blessing and Greg haven't noticed it as bad is because they don't play much in terms of competitive shooters. Having logged about 4k hours in destiny 1 and 2 and over 1k in Apex, I assure you these sticks have major drift problems lol
Well my controller must be close to death after spending 140 hours in acv and all the other launch titles 🙃
I find it funny when the discussion here is they are leaving shit out just for a third game. These are the dumbest discussions honestly because maybe just maybe, Cory has a plan for 3 games guys. Just like how they were always setting up more to come in this game why the hell dont you think they will do more setup in the second game? Sometimes I find the over theorizing is why people are left disappointed these days. Either they paint their own picture and cant let it go and enjoy the experience for what it is (literally what happened with TLOU2 for a lot of you out there who couldnt get over your own ideas rather than appreciate how good the story presented actually was) or you get angry that you guessed everything right. Like there is no way to win so I just root for the creatives to make what they wanted and hope that what they make is what they are proud of than just making a story to cater to fans.
I would normally agree with you bc that is genuinely what happens most of the time on the internet. But there's one thing I've learned about these guys over the years, and that's that they very seldom fall into the negativity traps that most of the internet fall into. In fact a lot of times they make a concerted effort to do just the opposite.
Didn’t Cory in the documentary say he basically came up with the second game first?
Who listens to that guy?! - Greg
Impossible! Cory has still never even heard of the second game!
I think there wasn't enough mention of Atreus' latent arrogance and rage. I think before all this is over, Atreus is going to retrace his father's steps and do a lot of morally questionable things. Imagine that Kratos is kidnapped and Atreus has to fend for himself and grows resentful of the world that has taken everything away from him. Atreus grows more powerful and bolder throughout his journey and starts to become more and more similar to old Kratos, wrecking everything in his path, good or bad, ever seeking to become like his dad, mighty and unstoppable. At the end of the game, Kratos is saved and confronts Atreus, telling him he is wrong and has to stop otherwise he'll destroy everything. Expecting to receive his father's praise for "becoming a man", Atreus feels desperate and betrayed and kills him in a fit of rage. This breaks him from his path of destruction and he starts his journey to fix what he broke.
everyone keeps thinking that Kratos is gonna be the one to be kidnapped or killed by Thor at the start of the next game, but what if Atreus is taken since he will be the key to Ragnarok or maybe some hidden giants. Honestly, i just want to play as Kratos and not another bow character when probably Horizon will be launched close to GoW.
I can't be the only person who didn't realize the monster hunter movie is out😅😂
Ratchet vs. Kratos: During the opening few hours of GoW 2018, Kratos fights a small group of human men. I believe that if you don’t fight back, you can die during that fight. If Kratos can die to regular men, Ratchet’s guns **cough cough The Rhino cough cough** can ABSOLUTELY kill him. THAT SAID, Kratos has died before and he literally punched his way out of Hell. So Ratchet would win the fight, but Kratos will keep coming back for revenge.
What the hell? Kratos made a life for himself by hunting down and killing literal gods.
Now I'm no big city scientist, but it seems to me like whatever the hell a lombax is is likely roughly the size of a raccoon. So let me ask you this, who would win in a one on one fight between rocket raccoon and thor?
Stupid question right? Thor would fucking vaporize rocket by the time he could cock his fancy gun.
And what does the leviathan axe do that the omni wrench don't? Um, let's see... cut, sever, dismember, freeze, and all manner of magical AOE attacks. C'mon.. and who says a chicken gun would even work on a being like kratos?
PS VR2 confirmed and I remember Greg saying it wasn't going to happen lol
That's NOT what I said. Tim wanted next-gen predictions, and I said if I had to make one, it'd be that. And an announcement is far different than you holding it in your hands, my friend. - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames thanks for replying Greg, that is awesome!
@@Snyder89 it's only because you're finally releasing the Snyder cut.
All this talk of Kratos chicken vs Blessing or Kratos chicken vs Ratchet makes me want PlayStation All Stars 2 even more.
I think we might get to play as Atreus simply bc sunny is so much bigger now that they could reasonably go in that direction
Also I really think that Kratos is being used again. His wife foresaw it all so I don't think it's an accident that she found him. It'd be fucked up but i'm very interested to see if they go down the path of Kratos coming to terms with the fact that he has once again been a pawn of powerful beings. I think that if they don't go down that path, then either Freya, Thor, or Odin will try to gaslight him with that notion at some point in the game. They went through such great lengths to portray Atreus' mother as perfect and it would be good to see that not be the case or at least see that notion played with. I think it'd be a great way to make her a super complex character, or they could do the same thing but instead of the mother using Kratos, it's Tyr who used the mother (sorry I can't remember her name, I think it's Faye but i'm not sure).
If only there were some sort of PlayStation fighting game where characters from several franchises could be pitted against each other
GoW pulling a LoU2 and playing as Atreus would be insane
I believe Atreus will at some point fake his death (which may or may not be a staple of Loki) and make Kratos lose his mind going full blast Ultra Spartan Instinct and fold Odin and Thor like paper.
So the entire pantheon of Greek gods and Blade of Olympus couldn't even kill Kratos, and you're adding prep for Kratos as well. There's no way Kratos goes out without taking out every living thing along with him lol.
Wait til Ratchet breaks out the Groovitron... Kratos will be hopeless
If I had to go off the wall crazy:
Atreus is a teen in the next one. He falls in love with one of the gods daughters (no idea who this would be). Kratos main thing is not trusting gods so this leads to a rift where they ended up fighting. Kratos dies. Atreus carries on for him blah blah blah fight Thor. IN THE THIRD GAME Atreus struggles between his father's teachings of distrust and his love for this god person. Something something something Kill the past. Game ends with Atreus having a child and wondering if the cycle of child killing parent continues
I honestly think the next God Of War is just going to lead up to what will be Ragnorak in the third installment of this trilogy. In the announcement trailer, it just says Ragnorak is coming, which doesnt necessarily mean the second installment will be about ragnorak. Plus everyone calls it God Of War: Ragnorak but really neither Playstation nor Sony Santa Monica has actually given the actual title.