The reason the car in front of you had an easier time is because it has pop-up up-and-down headlights. You should install some of those on your E30 and you’ll find drifting much easier and break fewer parts.
@@HatersGarage Great drifting for your first time out bro!!!!! My Brother inlaw drifts and the first thing some people told him on the track was to put way more air pressure in the rears and don't be scared of using the handbrake into drifts he has 17inch rims and put 65-75 psi in them, it could help a bit if you haven't tried that yet but either way keep putting out this great content mate!!! I seriously enjoy it
You drift about as good as me when I'm wearing slippery socks and running to the bathroom for an emergency dump after my strong coffee. Great video, reminded me to go poo this morning. Without it I would have made a mess.
My recommendation is to let go of the wheel so that the tires set straight again. You are strong arming the wheel too much, wearing yourself out, and putting extra strain on your tie rods hahah. Good job though!
Since this an IX e30, the shock towers are different so it has much less caster. The wheel does center itself but very slowly. So I give it a flick to spin it around
Yeah, the towing the car isn't about the wheels so much as the weight distribution. It's front engine, so there's more mass up there. That combined with the driveline drag makes it overall more stable. Though if you had a full trailer, you also wouldn't want to park the car on backward, at least not to the point where the front tires are any amount behind the axles of the trailer. And if you parked two cars on a trailer, you'd do both with the engine side forward.
These are the videos that I would pay to watch, it’s currently 11:14 pm and i would watch these all night long, could making these entertaining videos bro💯🔥!!
Eurobeat song name for those who interested 1:50 Ace Warrior - King Of The Nightmares (I know it Euromach 12 when i hear one 😆) 4:46 Mike Snap - Go Beat Gun
@@piedpiper1172 what? Dude I drive a 2005 doge grand caravan that's leaves rust everywhere it parks, I have to keep the steering wheel at a constant 15 degree to stop from going into the ditch. What you going on about peasants lol
i think trailer sway is from the weight of engine on car being so far back from the hitch/axle lol. very cool makes me want to go blaze around in a beater
Not sure if anyone posted this, but lock the steering wheel when dollying backwards like that. Should prevent the sway. I've been told not to as well, but have dollied many cars backwards with the wheel locked and never had an issue
Nice one! Just add a little bit of negative camber to the rear ( -1.5 or 2° ), thats gonna make the slide way better. And if you can add a toe out to the frontend to get the car more accurate.
Think I met you at a tech car meet. (I had a b swapped 4door civic). Awesome to see that you are getting some traction here on youtube! One day I'm gunna try to do some car content myself not sure if i will create another channel or not for it.
For first time drifting that's fu**in impressive! I already have a few events behind me, and I'm definitely not as good as you... (I drive an E90 330i thou, I don't know if that's a big different.)
Shenandoah speedway is a great spot for these chill events, who was the organizer? I’m thinking about getting back into drifting and turning up to some of these again
As for the rest of the video: Get some orange off-brand thread locker from Advanced auto. It's stronger than blue, but doesn't require heat to remove like red. I used it in the driveshaft of my Ranger and it's held for 2 years, haven't even checked it after the 500 mile re-torque. For the tires, if it's consistently the driver's rear that goes first and it happens going either direction on the track (looked like a balanced track, TBH), then you have a corner balancing issue. And since you're a man who works with a low budget but good craftsmanship, I suggest building your own spring preloading adjuster with some kind of tophat plate, an all-thread rod, and a jam nut setup. Other than that, it looks like it has enough angle and power for you at this level, so work on "supporting mods" like brake pads, lines, fluid, spare wheels and tires, etc. If you wanna get experimental you could rig up a very fine-spray tire mist system which should keep your tires cooler and lasting longer while drifting. I say fine spray so it doesn't make the track wet, after all you don't wanna be responsible for ruining other peoples' lines. BTW the Japanese do this, particularly in their FWD drift cars (yeah really, look them up) and it seems to work well. Imagine tripling the life of a set of tires, haha.
Yeah I should have used thread locker, I will on the new bolts. As far is tire wear on the left I'm not sure yet, I'll try it again on another course and see if it wears faster again. There is too much camber in the rear, I would be able to maintain a lot more speed and my tires would last longer with a better contact patch. Unfortunately there's no easy way to adjust rear camber on a E30, so I'll have to rig something up.
@@Drunken_Hamster I am probably going to do something like that, I also may cut the shock towers out and install ones from a normal e30 since the IX towers are basically straight up and down
@@HatersGarage Oh yeah, they're Macpherson front and semi-trailing arm rear... Damn. Well, this is a far more "out there" mod, but if you can put some modern double ball joint or Revoknucle style Macpherson front on there and E39 M5 rear suspension, you'd be in business for pretty much having the perfect setup as far as better geometries and adjustability goes. But IMO, if you're going to replace the suspension and change the type of suspension, I'd go straight for building a custom De-Dion rear axle with a Satchell Link. I think that'd even be simpler to retrofit than trying to put in another IRS car's rear suspension. As for what settings to go for on the front (and this kinda ties into the retrofit) you wanna keep similar arm angles, but do what you can to get at least 6 degrees of caster, if not 8-10. You also want to reduce KPI to be no more than 3/2 your caster angle, otherwise, the KPI will fight the caster and reduce its effect where you need it most. Once you have enough caster and the right caster/KPI ratio, you shouldn't need a crapload of static camber. Instead, work on reducing Ackerman below 40% so your trailing wheel drags less and your steering angles are closer to the average "true" angle than not.
Blew my 03 crv trans drifting it, on dirt , either the front diff or trans but park makes rock tumbler noises so yeah. Hopefully I can do it with a Buddys das for a couple hundred instead of a shop
I've always wanted to do something like this! Just not sure what kind of car to practice with first, and what if you hit something or crash? Do you own the owners of the property for any potential damages or anything? That's what I'm most concerned about.
The best car to practice with first is a virtual one, get a sim wheel. They expect people to hit stuff at drift events, so no charges if you do. Unless you do something extra stupid then maybe
when towing with a dolly like that you're supposed to take the driveshaft out or else you can burn up your transmission, we had a car come in the shop i work at because the guy did that and we replaced the whole transmission
@@HatersGarage That's right! I was pulling a pos, single jingle, slushbox, 1989 240sx, years ago with a dolly. After about a hour I started hearing a loud noise behind me wasn't sure what the hell it was. The damn auto had decided to lock into gear and was turning the motor over! Ha
I saw the sparks under the wheels, and I was like "Is that the chords from the tire sparking? nah, it's probably just something that happens with drifting." *Sees half the tire ripped apart and chords exposed after he stopped* "oh".
Man, I wish I had a set of coilovers on my first e30. I bought it specifically to drift and the one event I went to, it wouldn't break loose. I had a 4.10lsd and stripped the entire car down to 2400lbs. Was pretty disappointing. I ended up swapping a m30b35 into it and eventually sold it.
Dude, that drone footage is so cool.
That's a skilled pilot
fr makes it look like a video game
The reason the car in front of you had an easier time is because it has pop-up up-and-down headlights. You should install some of those on your E30 and you’ll find drifting much easier and break fewer parts.
Of course, the reason was right in front of me the whole time
@@HatersGarage Great drifting for your first time out bro!!!!! My Brother inlaw drifts and the first thing some people told him on the track was to put way more air pressure in the rears and don't be scared of using the handbrake into drifts he has 17inch rims and put 65-75 psi in them, it could help a bit if you haven't tried that yet but either way keep putting out this great content mate!!! I seriously enjoy it
inb4 bro welds 4 Miata popups to the car to keep the e30 double headlights
can't do that anymore lmao
You drift about as good as me when I'm wearing slippery socks and running to the bathroom for an emergency dump after my strong coffee. Great video, reminded me to go poo this morning. Without it I would have made a mess.
Dude's out there doing Mario Kart turbo boosts in real life, awesome!
I dunno, you killed it for your first time at a formal event, and the drone...chef's kiss.
My recommendation is to let go of the wheel so that the tires set straight again. You are strong arming the wheel too much, wearing yourself out, and putting extra strain on your tie rods hahah. Good job though!
Since this an IX e30, the shock towers are different so it has much less caster. The wheel does center itself but very slowly. So I give it a flick to spin it around
@@HatersGarage oh awesome! Work with what you got, then
Loving the eurobeat, the ORIGINAL drifting music.
Bringing those sparks to the course baby!
These straight to the point videos are where it's at
"Turned into a balloon" with the slap cracked me up. Still best E30 content on the market
This video just drifted into my heart ♥
Sick driving brother and excellent drone work.
Best car channel ive found in a long time
RIP E30…
That's gotta be the best drone operator I've ever seen!
Also excellent drifting
Yeah, the towing the car isn't about the wheels so much as the weight distribution. It's front engine, so there's more mass up there. That combined with the driveline drag makes it overall more stable. Though if you had a full trailer, you also wouldn't want to park the car on backward, at least not to the point where the front tires are any amount behind the axles of the trailer. And if you parked two cars on a trailer, you'd do both with the engine side forward.
Hell yeah pardner
Thank you kindly pardner
The Arby's explosion got me good
These are the videos that I would pay to watch, it’s currently 11:14 pm and i would watch these all night long, could making these entertaining videos bro💯🔥!!
+1 point for eurobeat
This is probably my new favorite automotive channel, keep up the fantastic work.
dayum that drone work and drifting was nice
Drone footage: great, Your drifting: great, The BMW: great. Another video enjoyed. Keep up the great work.
Sick drift, entertaining video.
3:05 will always be remembered
Good work on the drifting and glad to see the expedition in good order
Eurobeat song name for those who interested
1:50 Ace Warrior - King Of The Nightmares (I know it Euromach 12 when i hear one 😆)
4:46 Mike Snap - Go Beat Gun
Hell yeah dude that thing rips! Love me some drift content
i randomly found your channel, your videos are genuinely so entertaining.
Bro this is sick!
Dude what the hell, those drone shots are cool af
You make me wanna start buying old cars and fixing them up, Iv got a welder certification and some car knowledge so i guess nothing is stopping me
Check out Mr 1% with his “formal certification” and “actual knowledge” over here contemplating coming down into the mud with us peasants
@@piedpiper1172 what? Dude I drive a 2005 doge grand caravan that's leaves rust everywhere it parks, I have to keep the steering wheel at a constant 15 degree to stop from going into the ditch. What you going on about peasants lol
@@Bunchiebo Check out Mr Moneybags with his rust printing car that has functional steering.
First to hate this garage.
Quickdraw
Great driving...keep these videos coming!!!
I do not care that’s the best drifting I done ever seen good shit inspiring others👍🐐
This is my favorite channel, right next to PBG, Toms Refurb, and SuperfastMatt, only the best automotive content on youtube.
I always loved drifting and this is very cool. Good job bro.
this was fantastic, looked like such a good time
Normaly i watch jp performance that big german tuner but your Videos gives me the same Joy
Thank you for the content and have a nice day
Rip E30 you were badass
That plate is so absolutely genius I'm speechless
I've never been more physically ill watching a video before, keep it up
Best drone shots ever
glad i found your channel, you're very entertaining
i think trailer sway is from the weight of engine on car being so far back from the hitch/axle lol. very cool makes me want to go blaze around in a beater
nice drifting, looks really good with the drone footage
Dude that was so much fun!
And bonus finding out your bolts were loose and it didn't kill you! Had you used a trailer... 👍
what did those cones ever do to you
They were sitting there and I didn't like it
Not sure if anyone posted this, but lock the steering wheel when dollying backwards like that. Should prevent the sway. I've been told not to as well, but have dollied many cars backwards with the wheel locked and never had an issue
I had the steering lock on, the tow strap was just extra. It was fine until I got up to 65 mph, that's when the swaying started
your wheel alignment is toed out when you tow backwards, its never going to be stable at high speed.
@@Steinerrides That's normally the case but the toe is set negative on this car
@@HatersGarage Probably has to do with the caster being all weird then.
@@Steinerrides that and the bushings are worn out lol
Nice one! Just add a little bit of negative camber to the rear ( -1.5 or 2° ), thats gonna make the slide way better. And if you can add a toe out to the frontend to get the car more accurate.
Sorry about your axel! Looked like you had a blast at the drift event!!
Drone shots so smooth one would think it was a video game, great work!
Think I met you at a tech car meet. (I had a b swapped 4door civic). Awesome to see that you are getting some traction here on youtube! One day I'm gunna try to do some car content myself not sure if i will create another channel or not for it.
We did meet, I remember you. You should definitely go for it, if it were me I would make a second channel for it.
So excited to see what happens next.
Love the drone shots! Amazing video! Next up is drifting a $500 Ford
Amazing footage dawg
love this channel!
For first time drifting that's fu**in impressive!
I already have a few events behind me, and I'm definitely not as good as you... (I drive an E90 330i thou, I don't know if that's a big different.)
You certainly drove that like you stole it, nice work.
7:32 all of the insects when I try and enjoy being outdoors on a hot summer night
the drone footage was so sick
Bro you gotta do more content with the BMW, it's sick
Shenandoah speedway is a great spot for these chill events, who was the organizer? I’m thinking about getting back into drifting and turning up to some of these again
The bimmer is sick.
this guy deserves a lot more subs
shes a ripper you got one there!
Ma boy is doing it gorgeously
Yooo I was there, sick drifting.
Haters garage, yet I never hate the footage, SUBSCRIBE y'all
I was going to use one of those trailers to pick up a c5 off marketplace in a different state. Good thing I didn’t.
That reminds me of the first drift races from NFSU2 😂
Great video 😎
dudes rock
hell yeah
crazy what happened to the brake lines!
As for the rest of the video: Get some orange off-brand thread locker from Advanced auto. It's stronger than blue, but doesn't require heat to remove like red. I used it in the driveshaft of my Ranger and it's held for 2 years, haven't even checked it after the 500 mile re-torque. For the tires, if it's consistently the driver's rear that goes first and it happens going either direction on the track (looked like a balanced track, TBH), then you have a corner balancing issue. And since you're a man who works with a low budget but good craftsmanship, I suggest building your own spring preloading adjuster with some kind of tophat plate, an all-thread rod, and a jam nut setup.
Other than that, it looks like it has enough angle and power for you at this level, so work on "supporting mods" like brake pads, lines, fluid, spare wheels and tires, etc. If you wanna get experimental you could rig up a very fine-spray tire mist system which should keep your tires cooler and lasting longer while drifting. I say fine spray so it doesn't make the track wet, after all you don't wanna be responsible for ruining other peoples' lines. BTW the Japanese do this, particularly in their FWD drift cars (yeah really, look them up) and it seems to work well. Imagine tripling the life of a set of tires, haha.
Yeah I should have used thread locker, I will on the new bolts. As far is tire wear on the left I'm not sure yet, I'll try it again on another course and see if it wears faster again. There is too much camber in the rear, I would be able to maintain a lot more speed and my tires would last longer with a better contact patch. Unfortunately there's no easy way to adjust rear camber on a E30, so I'll have to rig something up.
@@HatersGarage Well, IIRC you already modded your knuckles for angle, so you might as well mod your UCAs with a threaded adjuster kinda like a tierod.
@@Drunken_Hamster I am probably going to do something like that, I also may cut the shock towers out and install ones from a normal e30 since the IX towers are basically straight up and down
Oh yeah and E30s don't have upper control arms
@@HatersGarage Oh yeah, they're Macpherson front and semi-trailing arm rear... Damn. Well, this is a far more "out there" mod, but if you can put some modern double ball joint or Revoknucle style Macpherson front on there and E39 M5 rear suspension, you'd be in business for pretty much having the perfect setup as far as better geometries and adjustability goes.
But IMO, if you're going to replace the suspension and change the type of suspension, I'd go straight for building a custom De-Dion rear axle with a Satchell Link. I think that'd even be simpler to retrofit than trying to put in another IRS car's rear suspension.
As for what settings to go for on the front (and this kinda ties into the retrofit) you wanna keep similar arm angles, but do what you can to get at least 6 degrees of caster, if not 8-10. You also want to reduce KPI to be no more than 3/2 your caster angle, otherwise, the KPI will fight the caster and reduce its effect where you need it most.
Once you have enough caster and the right caster/KPI ratio, you shouldn't need a crapload of static camber. Instead, work on reducing Ackerman below 40% so your trailing wheel drags less and your steering angles are closer to the average "true" angle than not.
yoooooo this is so cool man
The drone footage was awesome
Can't wait for you next video. I want to see you fix that car.
*technobeat intensifies* as he rolled up behind the 240 hahah
😮😮😮 What part of Virginia are you from? I grew up around Spotsylvania/ Orange/ Fredericksburg. Love the content!
The bmw shredds😂😂😂
Well that looked fun
This man about to explode on RUclips. Standby for liftoff
Hell yeah
Hey man, do you think stepped headers would make a noticeable difference in exhaust sound?
Blew my 03 crv trans drifting it, on dirt , either the front diff or trans but park makes rock tumbler noises so yeah. Hopefully I can do it with a Buddys das for a couple hundred instead of a shop
You should do a z3 steering rack swap. Makes the turn ratio a lot smaller
Since my e30 is a 325IX I don't think that swap is as easy for me, I don't mind the loose steering anyway though
The steering ratio is the best part about my m44 z3 lmao.
I've always wanted to do something like this! Just not sure what kind of car to practice with first, and what if you hit something or crash? Do you own the owners of the property for any potential damages or anything? That's what I'm most concerned about.
The best car to practice with first is a virtual one, get a sim wheel. They expect people to hit stuff at drift events, so no charges if you do. Unless you do something extra stupid then maybe
BALLS
Haters garage uploaded🗣️🔥💯‼️
when towing with a dolly like that you're supposed to take the driveshaft out or else you can burn up your transmission, we had a car come in the shop i work at because the guy did that and we replaced the whole transmission
Usually that's just automatics, manuals are splash lubricated and are usually fine
@@HatersGarage yeah i dont know for sure but the one we had in our shop was a t56 and it was locked up
@@HatersGarage That's right! I was pulling a pos, single jingle, slushbox, 1989 240sx, years ago with a dolly. After about a hour I started hearing a loud noise behind me wasn't sure what the hell it was. The damn auto had decided to lock into gear and was turning the motor over! Ha
I've always wanted to fly a drift day
"No airbags we die like real men" what a chad
So thats why you got a mazda after the e30.
I saw the sparks under the wheels, and I was like "Is that the chords from the tire sparking? nah, it's probably just something that happens with drifting." *Sees half the tire ripped apart and chords exposed after he stopped* "oh".
I paid for the whole tire, I'm using the WHOLE tire
@@HatersGarage LMAO your channel is a breath of fresh air
Sick
Thing looks sweet sideways
Man, I wish I had a set of coilovers on my first e30. I bought it specifically to drift and the one event I went to, it wouldn't break loose. I had a 4.10lsd and stripped the entire car down to 2400lbs. Was pretty disappointing. I ended up swapping a m30b35 into it and eventually sold it.
The lsd's in these cars are garbage, they're only 25% lock. you have to weld them to drift
oh that e30 is hot