You're using Nether Portals Wrong

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Nether Portals let you move at 8x the speed, so doing the fastest travel method in the nether should be the fastest way to travel...right?
    In this video we discuss possible optimizations for traveling in Minecraft that although simple, I haven't seen anyone take advantage of.
    Spreadsheet for compairing distances:
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Комментарии • 103

  • @ntader
    @ntader  Месяц назад +8

    Re: "What about boats on blue ice?"
    In the overworld, blue ice boats only go ~73 m/s, but a maxed dolphin tunnel goes 144 m/s.
    In the nether: with the portal cooldown, blue ice boats are still slower up to a distance of 1500 blocks (which is too long to build a tunnel anyway, past that, just use the nether)
    WITHOUT the portal cooldown - yes, blue ice boats are faster. But you would need to set up a system in which you could seamlessly ride between portals. This was added after the video, hence why its not mentioned.

  • @philippe4106
    @philippe4106 5 месяцев назад +50

    Sorry but dolphin tunnels in the nether are the fastest of all.

    • @hyae
      @hyae Месяц назад +3

      😭

    • @the2bros693
      @the2bros693 Месяц назад +10

      Try making one and come back to me

    • @Diamond_Fox2
      @Diamond_Fox2 День назад +1

      ​@@the2bros693glitch the water, make a tube, bring dolphins. Voila

  • @cskelly3783
    @cskelly3783 Год назад +71

    Isn’t a boat on blue ice in the nether far better than a dolphin tunnel?
    Of course there’s always that ~16 second portal time… but 600m/s (75m/s times 8 due to nether travel) is unmatched over long distances.
    Dolphin tunnels are extremely expensive and one of the most annoying things to build. Nobody’s using “Nether portals wrong”… Blue Ice boat nether hubs are just way better than Dolphin tunnels.

    • @ntader
      @ntader  Год назад +42

      For long distances, yes. Blue ice is better, but only past 1500 blocks. Anything under and dolphin tunnels are still faster. In 1.21, the portal cooldown can be removed, thus making blue ice boats better if you have a seamless portal-boat system.

    • @The_Lelouch
      @The_Lelouch Год назад +2

      @@ntader but what if we made a dolphin tunnel in the nether say to travel 5000 blocks in the nether so 40000 blocks in the over world well how fast would that be?

    • @shreychaudhary4477
      @shreychaudhary4477 Год назад +8

      @@The_Lelouch can you get water into the nether?

    • @poppinlochnesshopster3249
      @poppinlochnesshopster3249 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@shreychaudhary4477 Yes you can. Create your world in 1.12 and do falling block overwriting then update the world to 1.20. You can then move the water wherever you want in the nether using flying machines. Kind of janky but definitely worth doing for a lot of reasons. (not because of this absolutely stupid dolphin tunnel idea, just use an ender pearl stasis chamber, they're super easy to build.)

    • @RogatkaWR
      @RogatkaWR Месяц назад

      @@poppinlochnesshopster3249 at that point just make the stasis in the overworld

  • @larrythepotato
    @larrythepotato 2 года назад +64

    thank you man now i am going to go build a dolphin tunnel that let's me travel 6900 blocks in 20 seconds 👍

  • @moosewhisker8072
    @moosewhisker8072 2 года назад +16

    Nether travel starts to be good when the travel distances get 4 or more digits long.

    • @KirikkSiSq
      @KirikkSiSq Год назад +2

      Especially nether ice subways between the spawn and player bases

  • @elhedran
    @elhedran 3 месяца назад +3

    This video may need an update with 1.21 - in which if you are on an entity portals drop the 4 second wait. Also a minecart is an entity and will keep momentum.

  • @dkim3444
    @dkim3444 2 года назад +11

    6:44 ntader has evolved to be capable of fighting his brother and a chicken at the same time

  • @lossnt557
    @lossnt557 2 года назад +22

    Does anyone use the nether to travel less than like 500-1000 blocks?

    • @trentmora8094
      @trentmora8094 Год назад +4

      I sometimes use it to drop down deep in caves quickly, but it’s a one way trip down

    • @tylercox1875
      @tylercox1875 18 дней назад

      The realm I’m in connects spawn which is around -200 x and 0 z with -1700 x 100 z and -3000 x -200 z using nether portals. It turns a 10 minute walk into a 1 minute walk

  • @itisatharva
    @itisatharva 2 года назад +10

    I was sure this channel had 100k+ subs... but damn....
    well deserved man! Worth a sub!

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад +1

      Welcome to the channel!:)

  • @kornelion6014
    @kornelion6014 2 года назад +11

    As always, another AMAZING video! Thanks so much for all the good content so far!

  • @dirtthrower1998
    @dirtthrower1998 2 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for making this bro!!! I was actually thinking about the in depth details of travel in minecraft and thinking about making the same calculations you did. Thank you so much again!!

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      Glad it helped!

  • @user-nd2tp5yv6l
    @user-nd2tp5yv6l Год назад +7

    IMHO this is unfair, that minecarts is so slow

    • @GSBarlev
      @GSBarlev 27 дней назад

      1.21.2 snapshots teasing a potential top speed of 1 km/s (or 8 km/s effectively in the Nether with no portal cooldown). Probably won't happen, but a man can dream...

    • @user-nd2tp5yv6l
      @user-nd2tp5yv6l 26 дней назад +1

      @@GSBarlev 8 km per second it is like enough to go to orbit :-)

  • @blockofstone3536
    @blockofstone3536 2 года назад +13

    hey nice video, but the same could be said about ice boats or other methods that dont stop your movement, but slow it. its less of an effect, but it still effects shorter distances

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад +1

      Thats true, and a very good point. I should’ve been more general in that section, but it applies to other methods as well

  • @distinguished_
    @distinguished_ 3 месяца назад +3

    With the new snapshot the 8 second load time is now gone.

    • @TomPlugge
      @TomPlugge 2 месяца назад +1

      Yup, now for short distances just pull oud a minecart with a nether portal

    • @enderallygolem
      @enderallygolem Месяц назад

      Getting in a vehicle and then through the portal then out of it then enter the transport method then get in another vehicle then enter the portal then out is probably not very convenient though

  • @jaisehgal1322
    @jaisehgal1322 2 года назад +13

    Amazing calculations done at 4:04!!! Thank you for the calculations, they were extremely helpful!!!

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад +1

      Im glad you were able to follow! That was a tricky one!!!

  • @expathmia
    @expathmia 2 года назад +2

    BROOOO, get this man more consistent viewers. you deserve it. this video was great.

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it:)

  • @hailsatanthetruegod4066
    @hailsatanthetruegod4066 Год назад +2

    I thought everyone knew not to take a flight to visit your local walmart.
    its the same idea.

  • @thesuperrancher9684
    @thesuperrancher9684 6 месяцев назад +1

    I built a dolphin pathway for going 50 block (it's in my storage system). while it will probably never save the amount of time that I spent making it it is really fun.

  • @n085fs
    @n085fs Месяц назад +1

    I argue that setting up a dolphin tunnel to go 2,000 blocks is slower than just running/jumping/walking the distance without having to build the tunnel.

    • @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag
      @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag Месяц назад

      Yeah but it saves you time when you use that road more than 5 times.

    • @n085fs
      @n085fs Месяц назад

      @@What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag Since everything is available anywhere, there's never a need to go back.

    • @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag
      @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag Месяц назад

      @@n085fs if u build a cool base is what I meant

  • @peepeebread
    @peepeebread 2 года назад +4

    Please add more explanation so I can enjoy the video, I'm still confused about the part at 2:00 and how to solve it

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад +4

      No problem, I will be releasing a 43 minute explanation video on that problem soon

  • @andrewkim8127
    @andrewkim8127 2 года назад +1

    warning future viewers: there is infact a post-credits scene after 0:41!! Thank you ntader for the extra content!

  • @thebestrobloxgamer
    @thebestrobloxgamer 2 года назад +2

    i found this when i was searching "join my google meet" on youtube and picked last hour... lol anyways good video

  • @BasicallyBlank
    @BasicallyBlank 2 года назад +2

    I did not expect this to be how your voice would sound, 👍not bad, also thanks for the info

  • @MatthewSi__
    @MatthewSi__ 2 года назад +2

    Amazing video as always! Now i just have to replace the hundreds of nether portals with just a couple of dolphin tunnels...
    This will be a pain, but it's fineee

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      Good luck!

    • @MatthewSi__
      @MatthewSi__ 2 года назад

      @@ntader Thank you lol!

  • @godsunit
    @godsunit 2 года назад +2

    This video is about to blow up. Glad I'm early!

  • @pomidorka_
    @pomidorka_ Месяц назад

    that's some high quality Minecraft content

  • @LukeCunningham
    @LukeCunningham Месяц назад +1

    Now the penalty is gone if you’re riding something

  • @theultimateinsectperson4733
    @theultimateinsectperson4733 4 месяца назад +2

    Bruh who even uses nether portals to travel 100 blocks?

  • @Maelt_
    @Maelt_ 2 года назад +3

    It would have been really helpful for the demonstration if you just made a graph, the sheets and picture works well, it would just have been a bit more clear, but it was still a great video!

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      I thought about it! The problem I had was that some intercepts would be super far out (nether portals at 2000), and I had a hard time making the graph look good and readable for the video:( But youre right, graphs would have worked too, thanks for your comment!

    • @Maelt_
      @Maelt_ 2 года назад +1

      @@ntader Tried to make my own and i see what you mean now

  • @chinkram
    @chinkram 2 года назад +2

    You can easlily make a chunk loader with a portal and minecarts as well

  • @mincraffkoolistgam4557
    @mincraffkoolistgam4557 2 года назад +1

    Just make a dolphin tunnel in the nether and you can have light speed travel

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      No water :(

    • @haph2087
      @haph2087 11 месяцев назад

      @@ntaderWater!

  • @ntader
    @ntader  2 года назад +5

    Follow me on Twitter for more dolphin tunnel propaganda:
    twitter.com/ntader_

    • @BasicallyBlank
      @BasicallyBlank 2 года назад +1

      Weird, I already follow and have yet to see any propaganda

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад +2

      @@BasicallyBlank oh its coming

    • @KirikkSiSq
      @KirikkSiSq Год назад

      @@ntader you kinda forgot you can place ice in the nether, and boats move very fast on ice. Many servers have those nether ice subways

  • @dkim3444
    @dkim3444 2 года назад +2

    2:00 the answer is 2

    • @ptader1798
      @ptader1798 2 года назад +3

      Great, now I can watch the rest of the video

  • @enkvadrat_
    @enkvadrat_ Месяц назад

    Riding pig = fastest travel, (when you apply tnt)

  • @ethanlin6994
    @ethanlin6994 2 года назад +1

    This is the type of research they should be doing in schools 😤

  • @Iceyze
    @Iceyze Месяц назад

    so much hate, it might not be practical but very well put together video and definitely useful for long term servers

    • @ntader
      @ntader  Месяц назад

      @@Iceyze Thanks!

  • @lenosmas463
    @lenosmas463 Год назад +1

    thank you for such useful information, without you, Id still be traveling 32 block via a nether portal 4 blocks away, but now that I know how slow it is I wont do it anymore

  • @donutbedum9837
    @donutbedum9837 Год назад

    you missed a chance to use some linear graphs for the more mathsy viewers but still cool

  • @qwertphobia
    @qwertphobia Год назад

    dolphin tunnels in the nether be like

  • @southmoltondancecentre1401
    @southmoltondancecentre1401 6 месяцев назад

    underrated

  • @princenoreally
    @princenoreally 10 месяцев назад

    I just use nether Portales to get from my base to the neather to the end faster

  • @NotSo8
    @NotSo8 Год назад +1

    So would rails through the nether be faster than rails in the overworld?

    • @ntader
      @ntader  Год назад

      Most likely, yes

  • @dkim3444
    @dkim3444 2 года назад +2

    n00ber portal

  • @demonprincess5634
    @demonprincess5634 Год назад

    what is a dolphin tunnel???

  • @Ugitron217
    @Ugitron217 Месяц назад

    Does any of this apply at all when portal cooldown's turned off ?

    • @ntader
      @ntader  Месяц назад

      Ehh not as much. Much easier to figure out without the cooldown

  • @zhen9527
    @zhen9527 2 года назад +2

    me hit like button. me press subscribe. me SMASH the notification bell

  • @risingeclipseofdawn451
    @risingeclipseofdawn451 Год назад

    This is very good post. Would watch again. (i wont)

  • @user-zi5xg8tg9c
    @user-zi5xg8tg9c 2 месяца назад

    What fool would want to build 6500 block dolphin tunnel??

  • @AlbaderBohamad
    @AlbaderBohamad 9 месяцев назад +1

    You made an 8 minutes long video with lots of shots and editing and voice over to tell us that nether portal is only worth it if you're travelling long distances. Else use elytra with rockets.
    You're welcome everyone.

    • @anrivenn8716
      @anrivenn8716 5 месяцев назад

      For those of us who like explanations, or may be new to the game, videos like this are useful. Its ok to admit something isnt for you, and to walk away, I promise.

  • @Acorniscute
    @Acorniscute 2 года назад +2

    i only liked the video to make it 70 :)

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      :')

    • @Acorniscute
      @Acorniscute 2 года назад

      ​@@ntader ok changed my mind i finished watching and pretty good video 👍

    • @Acorniscute
      @Acorniscute 2 года назад

      @@ntader also how do oyu do the custom emoji thing

    • @ntader
      @ntader  2 года назад

      @@Acorniscute Its part of the channel membership, each channel has its own unique emoji

  • @joana9048
    @joana9048 2 года назад

    That cap

  • @The_Alex_Croft
    @The_Alex_Croft Год назад

    im sorry how do you know we'r using them wrong what give you the right to tell players how to play minecraft?

    • @anrivenn8716
      @anrivenn8716 5 месяцев назад

      You could actually watch the video and find out.. or you could be stuck in your ways 🤷‍♀️

    • @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag
      @What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag Месяц назад

      Nobody would click otherwise.

  • @mattwyd2161
    @mattwyd2161 Год назад

    well produced vid but the thesis is just really obvious to most people and isnt really necessary or entertaining to hear about something that is so self evident

  • @ptader1798
    @ptader1798 2 года назад +3

    I think I won that fight