Vortex Viper vs Venom
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Vortex Viper vs Venom| Red Dots | My Thoughts
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Today I'm taking a look at my main two red dots, the Vortex Venom, and the Vortex Viper. I love both of these red dots and they have treated me very well but neither is without flaw. This is my truth about them and just my own personal track record/experience (your mileage may vary).
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Dude I LOVE this review. You have a way with being critical while keeping a cool, respectful demeanor.
Phenomenal job explaining intricacies that many people just simply care about. This is my favorite Venom vs. Viper review I have seen. Hands down. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Alot of knowledge in this video. You deserve some more credit and views here!
Thanks Jay, I really appreciate it, sharing and liking the video is the only thing that helps nowadays 😫. RUclips doesn't really push gun-related stuff anymore, a lot of us can't even get monetized. So at this point just doing it for the love of guns.😫👊
@@KingDOMCollective would you recommend venom for EDC gun or what red dot would be good for EDC? my priority is reliability in any conditions and RMR is too expensive so I am looking for something cheaper.
Yes he deserves more views are you sharing this video? How many people have you sent this to or recommend?
Nice review. Organized, covered the differences between the two. I liked your comments re the 3 MOA vs the 6 MOA. At 25 yds the 6 MOA covers about a 1.5" circle (approx, if my math is correct) which isn't too shabby. I see your points about the Venom but I do like the shorter height of the Viper. It does seem like it'd be nicely compact on a Glock 19 MOS. Thank you for a calm, non-shouting review.
Looking at both of these for my CZ P-10S OR, this definitely helped clarify some things, especially size/height and MOA differences. I think the Viper may win out simply because I should be able to cowitness with factory sights.
I have to say, I really appreciate your style of videos. No clickbait, no stupid faces, cringey jokes, or tacticool gimmicks. You are knowledgeable, well-spoken, and concise. I really hope this channel gets as big as it deserves to be!
This popped up as a "Recommended" and now I have subbed. Great stuff and as I own both of those red dots (Viper on my Scorpion and Venom on my Mini-14), I agreed with everything you said. Especially about the frustration of the battery for the Viper. I used a little piece of clear packing tape and all is well. :)
LOL AWESOME!!! Thanks for the sub Merlin. Yea we need a Viper v2 I'd buy it no hesitation!
I agree with you ! 1 I love the sleek look of the viper over venom and 2 how snug it fits on the slide + the higher view its so much easier and fast to find the target . Performance wise the VIPER! Great video and informative information thank you and by the way your a real cool cat!
Right on, appreciate the kind comments THOR... Vortex if you're listening... "An updated viper" maybe? 2.0? 😅
I've had my TP9sfx for about a month now and have been down many rabbit holes (some people are just crazy) with regard to firearms in general. I appreciate your perspective and straight forward objective observations. This video helped me make my decision, thank you.
You're welcome Marcus. Thanks for the comment.
Best review I've seen on Vortex Viper vs. Vortex Venom. You explanation of 3 MOA and 6 MOA were concise and practical. I have a Venom, but you've convinced me to also try the Viper. Thank YOU, KingDOM Collective!
Glad I could be of help to you Ron, thanks for the kind words! 🙏
I just ordered the venom . I hope I like it
Instant sub we need more brothers with gun knowledge ✊🏾
Appreciate that man!
And it's nice to see LGBTQ+POC embracing the 2A.
Father's...
Hell yeah brother ✊🏻
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Subbed. Enjoyed the calm, straightforward engineering perspective, calm demeanor (lack of hype), and 6-MOA preference, LOL.
The comparison is great, but when I heard the background music from my country I just got extra excited.. haha. Very nice! "Azul da cor do mar"
Hey!!! Good ear!!! 👍😁
I love the amount of chill you bring to your video’s.
Appreciate that.
The best, most honest, review I've seen of these two red dots. Thanks!
Appreciate that Mark! Yw
Thanks! The good, the not so good, and a great explanation of your personal preferences.
I'm now a subscriber!!!
Your welcome, thanks so much for the sub Logan!
Finally a great comparison between the two. Thank you.👍
This is the first of your videos I've seen and you just got a subscribe only because I appreciate the opening verification clear, alot of gun channels are more geared towards people who carry or own so safety is implied, but to see that so proper on social media was very nice to see, thanks.
Outstanding review and really appreciate how you articulated the 3 moa vs 6 moa differences.
Ty Samuel
Excellent review.
Just added the Venom to my cart to put on the new PDP. I also watched your Holosun comparison. In the end it came to aesthetics and price. Going with Vortex Venom.
Now I need to watch some of your light videos
Lol appreciate you Scott
Really like how you present the information on topics and let the viewer decide what they like....great videos!
I appreciate that!
I just found your channel. Very useful comparison between the Venom and the Viper. Subscribed! Looking forward to seeing more from you!
Awesome, thank you!
Such an informative comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this. I just recently purchased the venom and I’m extremely satisfied with it.
Very welcome!
Thanks for this. You really hit the finer points on both of these optics. I've got a Venom and a Viper on hold at Cabelas, and I'm taking 1 of them home in 4 hours. I've been back and forth so many times over which to choose, because It's a birthday gift for my GF to put on her Ruger Mark 4 Tactical, and all in all, the points that you brought up helped a lot. She's a beginner, so I'm going with the Viper, because she'll pick up and point that 6 MOA dot faster and easier.
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Appreciate your subtlety on how you deliver info. Cool calm and collective vs some vids that seems like they are forcefully yelling biase info. Appreciate this ! Subbed
I appreciate that Owen, thanks! 👏 Just trying as transparent as possible, definitely a goal to be as neutral but honest as possible.
This was the deciding video for me to purchase my first red dot, which is the Venom. I like how you gave your opinions, observations, and you didn’t come off arrogant. Many thanks!
Glad I could help
Wonderful comparison review of the two Vortex Red Dot sights.
Ironically you have red dots on your shirt!
Hahaha, I promise you it's not that obvious in person!
Thanks for the honest comparison, including good AND bad of both sights from your personal use perspective. Good breakdown of what you like and don't. Thanks for posting!
This is my first comment on any videos I've ever watched online. Excellent job on previewing these two red dots. Great video, it was perfect for me. Thank you!!!
That's awesome, Thank you. That's much appreciated Paul. Glad you enjoyed it! 👏💯
@@KingDOMCollective Again, thank you so much. That was a great video, I really mean it. And thank you for your reply.
Just found your channel I’ve had my eye on the venom and you humble and non biased opinion of both really help me know that the venom is a good choice although if I had twice the money you know I’d be all over that rmr 2 but hope wishing and hoping never bought me anything 😂
LOL, thanks for the comment Smitty. You should definitely feel confident about the venom. I've tried just about every red dot under the sun and I get it RMR's are the business. The one thing that they have over most red dots is their ruggedness (hence the name..) However, if you're not going to war or running over your red dot with a truck then you'll be fine getting something else. Also not sure if you know but if your venom does brake for whatever reason Vortex literally has the best Warranty I've ever seen in my life. no question no hassle they are sending you a new one. So yea feel confident in the venom. 😉
Dude, you are killin it, keep making video's, I think you will blow up, you make quality for sure, dont stop. Thanks
I appreciate that!💪👊
Why am I just finding this channel after years of being on RUclips? 🤦♂️ Great video bro 💪🏽
Best discussion of 3moa vs 6moa dots I've heard. Great review.
Just stumbled upon your channel. Thumbs up , I like what you have to offer so far. I’m going to sub. Hope to see more content from you.
This was honestly the best red dot comparison video I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your video! You’ve helped me with my decision. Subscribed and liked!
Thanks Zach! 💯
Thanks for the video man! This was precisely the kind of video I was looking for to help me make my final decision.
Congratulations for this excellent video, very clear showing important features and... very friendly. I appreciate this review and fully agree with David C. comment. All the best.
FYI. You talked me into the Venom. So far I love it. Thanks.
HAHAHaha, that's awesome... Sorry for making you spend money 😂
@@KingDOMCollective Its all good. I think i made the right choice.
What’d you put it on
@@GBall_VisionI have a Canik TP9 SFX.
Good video, production and content were all very well done. I’ve never heard of your channel before how many subs do you have? Anyways I’m glad YT put it in my feed and that I watched. Keep up the good work I subbed you and will watch last vids too
Thanks brother means a lot. I'm small time LOL
Very nice review! No tacticool BS, mellow presentation and subject knowledge! Thank you.
Much appreciated!
Very informative comparison. Thx for the extra details between the two optics.
Great video and what I was looking for in comparison. On the fence with going either way with preference towards the Venom. Thank you sir.
Glad I could help
I knew i’d like this video when i saw that intro, good stuff man.
Appreciat that.
Great job on the review and comparisons. Definitely helped me make my mind up for my XDM Elite. Thank you sir.
Great content. Subbed. I agree with other commenters, you deserve more recognition. Well done, sir.
Thanks so much Justin and welcome
Intro alone…you got a homie my bro
#bigups🤙🏾
Thank you for this comparison my dude. Yours is the best I've found
I know this was about particular red dots but this had the best comparison between 3moa and 6moa that I've been able to find, thank you!
Based on your review, I just orders the Vortex Venom 3 moa and a six pack of batteries ! Thanks for a well informed review. I’m going to install it on my Walter Q5 SF Match!
Nice, glad I could help
Thank you! Excellent comparison. I think I am going to go with the venom because of your review.
You're welcome Tyler, you will definitely enjoy it.
Very nice and thoughtful review. No tacticool bluster, what a relief! Excellent job and I’ll be sure to check back in future. 👍
Appreciate it!
First time on your channel. I like your presentation style and content. It’s very well done.
Thank you kindly!
Great video! Don’t know how I never found your channel before but I’m subscribed now🤝! I just got the Viper from PSA for $149 shipped
Thanks Saul and Thanks for the sub! 👊
Man, you get an Auto LIKE for Starting your video 100% the CORRECT Way ! CLEAR ! Good Job. Great Video.
7:22 IF Someone is seeing your sight from the FRONT point of view - they are about to have a very, very bad day ! :-O
Thanks and lol at 7:22, I agree 😂
Thank you for outlying the differences between the two sights. Not new to firearms, but this will be my first red dot.
Excellent analysis. Your comments / criticisms / admitted (and unapologetic) bias all make sense. However, after 45 years of 1911, I'm fairly OK with iron. But for my son who is about to embark on 3Gun, the Viper (on a Glock) gets the nod. Kudos also for the safety check. I'm old school - every gun is loaded until I unload it.
Good info. And thank you for posting. I've been shooting IDPA with the Venom 6 MOA. I like it but one time as you stated the dot glare. At the indoor range (zeroing at 15 yards even at its lowest number it glares to much). Thanks again for the comparison.
You're welcome
Totally agree with you on dot size. This was a very helpful video.
Awesome, glad you liked it man.
Great video and excellent production quality, just subbed :)
Thanks James! I'll try to make it even better in the future.
Subscribed! Loved the videos, so informative....make more please!
Thanks for the Sub and I will for sure.
Good job. I enjoyed your opinion. I found your comparison helpful. Now, I want to try both.
Thanks!, Lol if you can you definitely should!
Thank you for your perspective on the two. I'm new to the MOS platform and I've been looking to purchase one of the two.
No problem 👍
PSA had too good of a deal on the venom and I got a smoking good deal on a glock slide cut for the venom. So I kinda painted myself into the venom corner before I did any research. Great video though. I'm feeling better about the 3moa venom
Awesome, yea the venom is a great choice.
The ANGLING that you were talking about, where it was too "right angle" looking, that's called an angle without a "fillet" or "chamfer". When you smooth out a corner or "fill it in", that's called a fillet.
Great video!
Sold me on the venom and instantly feel better about buying a rock slide that has the venom cut lol! Awesome vid, keep it up brother!
Thanks for your two cents. I’m still tossed up for my Ruger Mark IV.
I purchased a Venom about a year ago for one of my Ruger Mark IV pistols and I really like it. Quick target acquisition and for me, it's great for hunting squirrels. After watching this review, I'm going to purchase the Viper for my other Mark IV.
@@gronthomson I own both; Viper 6moa & Venom 3moa. I placed the Viper on my Mark IV and the Venom is currently on my Scorpion Evo Micro.
I put a Venom on my 22/45 MK IV Lite. Shoots great and looks slick. Highly recommend!
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Awesome Gerry!
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How did you mount the RMR to your PPQ ??
I’m actually looking into a RMR for my Canik TP9SFX ??
I probably should have bought it with a optic, But I got such a good deal without the optic !!!!
Thanks for the video bro, a great breakdown of these sights. I don’t have any red dots on any of my handguns and I have been trying to decide which of these to get for my M&P 9. Glad to have input from someone who owns and uses both.
Best review on this for all the little things I was looking for
Great review. Thanks. Unfortunately I liked the taller window on the Viper but I like the 3 moa and battery in top on the Venom. I guess I’ll have to flip a coin.
man your voice is so pleasant to listen to
👊 So I've been told, lol I appreciate it thanks!
Thanks man, really well done. Answered a lot of my questions.
Great review, great production work
I'm gonna go with the viper. Namely because the FMK Elite Pro Plus comes with it attached!
The Canik that i want comes with one also 😎😎
Very honest review. Helped immensely.
Many thanks. You are a must subscribe channel in my opinion.
I really appreciate that comment Rich, Thank You
That 90 degree angle on the Venom kills it for me too.
Thanks for the review, you bring up some excellent points!
Great comparison video, thanks dude💪🏼
Great video. I just picked up a Viper today for my AR. Thinking I might move it over to my M&P instead.
Thanks Gary, yea that would make more sense with a 6 MOA
KingDOM Collective I was looking to use it as a 45 degree side mount on the AR, since my primary is a Vortex Crossfire II with a 50mm objective, so it’s pretty large. Still researching options and exploring ideas. Great channel BTW. I subscribed. 👍🏻
I've had the 3 MOA Viper for over a year now on my PPQ Q5 Match. I really like it for all the reasons you mentioned. Indoors it is great. I've noticed that outdoors on a sunny day the dot isn't big enough. So I'm thinking about moving the Viper back to my Taurus TX22C and buying a 6 MOA Venom for the Walther. Thanks for the great review
The Venom has an auto off feature but no auto on. I assume the Viper is the same? This is really important! If you have to remember to manually turn it on before use, that could get you killed when fractions of a second count.
I just ordered the Vortex Viper 6 MOA for $150 new through OP. If I don’t like it, its not like I spent a fortune. Most pistol engagements are going to be 7-10 yards. The 6 MOA will allow faster red dot target sight picture acquisition. I really wanted to get the Trijicon Type 2 red dot in 3 MOA but I couldn’t pass up this price. I’ll see how this one performs first and if it doesn’t meet my needs, I can always upgrade later.
Great video brother... I have had both of these red dots and I have to say most, if not all of what you covered in this I have to agree with. These are great sight options, awesome price points. But, the one thing, and I never noticed it till it happened not once but, twice. Was the durability of the Venom over the Viper! While dry firing I had dropped my Glock with the Viper and cracked the housing right along the side where the two little screws are. The glass was fine and it still held zero. But, that real tiked me off, more at myself than anything. I then replaced it with the Venom and I have banged it up dropped it a few times (during dry fire) a couple of times, and never had an issue like that. I then came across a great deal on another Viper and put it on a Glock 45 mos and while I was cleaning the slide after a long range day it fell from my lap and the same thing happened again🤦. So I would have to say in my opinion, the Venom is the better of the two. Especially if it is going to take any type of abuse...
With your criteria I completely agree.👊
Thanks for the comparison. You helped me make my decision on my purchase.
Wow, what a great review! I was having difficulty deciding between the two, but your video helped explain the differences on a very practical level. I haven't used any optics on a pistol yet, so I am going to take your advice and go with the newer Venom. However, I am still a little torn. You make a great point about the Viper's additional vertical view, but that open battery space makes me a bit uneasy.
Side note: I totally agree with your opinion on the Venom's angular design. It sticks out as unrefined, whereas the rest of the design features on the optic seem well thought out.
Thanks Thad , you can learn to work with either though. They both have their limitations and strong points. 👍
Thank you. You answered all my questions. I appreciate that.
Why have I not seen this video before. I just purchased my first red dot yesterday. Got the Venom over the viper. Hope I made the right call. Great video, well made, I'm going to subscribe. Well done sir.
Appreciate that Michael, you can't really go wrong with the venom 👊.
Okay, that.... what awesome! Love the way you started the video lol shut up all the Monday night qb's lol
LMBO! 😂😂😂 Thanks Andrew.
Excellent video! You helped me decide. I will be putting the viper on my pdp. Subscribed.
YW
Spot on! Just what I was looking for. Nicely done. Thank you.
whatever camera settings and camera you are using are absolutely fantastic. thanks for the great review
Thanks, and thank you for the comment as well.
Subbed. I really enjoy your perspective. This helped me make my decision. Thank you.
SORRY I HAD TO DELETE MY OTHER COMMENT, I WAS LOGGED INTO MY TEACHER ACOUNT AND WHOOPS LOL wow a great video as I am looking to upgrade from my burris fastfire II and this video shows me that I would prefer the Viper over the venom since it sits lower and I have no trouble finding the dot left to right but I am always up high due to the fastfire feeling like it is 2 feet above the slide lol. Thank you for a very informative video
You're Welcome again Dave and thanks for taking the time to repost it. Means a lot! 👊
I very much enjoyed the vibe of your video. Well done
Thanks, getting the venom; Engineers sticks together. Lol
Awesome, happy shooting
I thank you for the video! I first seen this video about a year ago and I’m glad I did as I got the viper and when I went to rewatch the video I remembered why I chose the viper?
Just the info I was looking for. Thanks.
You're Welcome Travis
Thank you for proving the firearm was clear and safe for California.
Great comparison. Thank you, you helped me make a decision between these two!
Glad I could help!👊
What’d you go with