Confronting CAZADOR | Baldur's Gate 3 #15
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Today, we faced Cazador Szarr.
What a powerful moment for Astarion. The Ascendant Ritual was much more henious than we initally thought, with 7000 lives on the line.
Facing Astarion's past victims was such an impactful scene, truly left me speechless.
NEIL NEWBON YOU DESERVE ALL THE AWARDS!!
On a lighter note, the Emperor was trying to get down. HUH?
Sir locate your shirt and leave me alone.
Halsin was the imposter?? How in the WORLD did Orin get him out of camp with no one noticing?
Dame Aylin faced Lorroakan. Not sure what was eating her up, but her and Isobel are departed now.
ACT 3 IS STILL STRESSFUL.
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Getting to watch this part of the game right after Neil won best actor at The Game Awards is such perfect timing.
Right?? I was blown away at the voice acting in this part. Definitely a deserved award
in light of the game awards and neil winning for best performance, i'm so glad you got to this moment. neil (astarion's actor) actually disclosed that the entire scene when he kills cazador was his first take and all in one try. the heart his gives this character is so sincere, especially for those like me and so many others who relates to his story, and i couldn't be prouder of him getting the recognition he deserves
Yeah this moment could’ve have been timed better lol. I’m glad he got recognition for his work, I was up watching and waiting for him to win it
your reaction to the sudden naked emperor made me cackle 🤣 when i got that cutscene, i'd also accidentally made my dragonborn run around without a shirt so it really was just me going "WHY ARE BOTH OUR TITS OUT" over and over again 😅
😂😂😂😂 omg that’s priceless!!! I had a similar reaction Kay did when I got to that scene! It took by surprise so hard 😭😭😭
I really liked your discussion of the characters. Lae'zel's journey from indoctrination and the pain she goes through really mirrors well Astarion's indoctrination of fear that came from being owned and abused for centuries. The writing for most of the characters is so shockingly great.
I defintely feel like Lae'zel is far from evil, whatever people say! (She's lawful neutral for certain lol)
She's rude and stubborn, sure, and sometimes her methods are quite harsh, but... it's like she said after the fight with Cazador, she values doing what benefits the collective/society over what benefits a particular individual. Almost always, when she suggests or approves of you doing something "cruel," it's because she sees it as being a sort of necessary sacrifice for the greater good. Like... wanting a child who stole a druidic idol to be harshly punished? It's not because she would enjoy the child's suffering, it's because in her mind, allowing thieves to go unpunished would lead to more crime and chaos in the future. Better to sacrifice one individual's happiness or even life to protect the greater order
And when you meet her, she has no room for mercy or nuance in that equation because that's the kind of society she grew up in. It's only over the course of the game and her time with the party that she learns a new way of looking at things. She still values the good of the collective over individuals, but she also sees that connection and kindness can be just as useful as violence and cruelty in maintaining a healthy society, if not more so
Yeah I really do like characters like Lae'zel and Astarion for that reason; their nuance is so refreshing. She's not 'nice' but I've always considered her at least kind or honorable. She rarely lies and is very straight forward about her motivations. She goes out of her way to help the group and even shows compassion for her party members throughout their stories
@@CuriouslyKay Yeah! She's actually incredibly supportive of the others, starting much earlier in the game than you might think. And even when she's in conflict with somebody, such as Shadowheart, it's never out of selfish motivations and she's never backstabby about it. She directly states what her problem is, then demands a straightforward, honorable solution. Even if her idea of a solution is to beat the crap out of each other lol
And she still goes along with the party even if you keep doing everything other than going to the creche in Act 1. She just sees no value in being nice about it
The reason why Aylin is sad after killing the mage is quite interesting, and I love how subtly it is hinted at instead of just being said plainly. As a paladin, she's bound by a sacred oath to uphold justice and adhere to a certain level of morality. By displaying unnecessary (albeit understandable) cruelty towards Lorroakan she's broken her oath, and that's the thing she feels she "lost". I think she may have started to take a little too much pleasure in killing people after the hell Ketheric had put her through, even if killing them was the right thing to do.
Woah that’s actually so cool. Do they ever expand on that or is it just something to notice?
@@CuriouslyKay more like speculation. nothing much to expand though. but yes oath breaking is a thing for paladin, and it's not necessarily as an evil thing.
@@CuriouslyKay I'm not sure they do, as I haven't finished the game yet myself, but I doubt they would just say it outright. I am curious if the subject is ever brought up again. It's probably much easier to notice if you've played a paladin yourself, since that exact thing can happen to your character as well and it's a whole big deal, there's even a unique NPC involved!
@@alexwang3282 It is pretty clear that that's what it's about, though. Aylin says "As though I'd lost (...) something. A paladin's fatigue, no doubt." She literally mentions her class right after saying she'd lost something. It's very obviously an intended ploy by the writers for people to go "Oh, she's a paladin...wait, is this about her oath?". If it weren't the case, then it would be an extremely strange and random choice of words. And this game is written way too well for things to just be random.
@@konradstanczyk5158 it could be but without very solid proof I'd still say it's speculation though,just with strong hint.
I love that you're empathetic to the characters that some consider 'evil'. Laezel has been indoctrinated her whole life by a brutal regime so really doesn't know how to be different until she spends time away from all that. Even Astarion wanting to ascend is understandable, if you've had literally no power or freedom at all for 200 years of course the thing you would covet most is power and freedom.
I have such a soft spot for characters that start out irritable or cold and slowly grow warmer throughout a story. They really feel like they portray a part of healing from trauma well; sometimes it makes you an asshole until you work through it.
ik people have said this before but i LOVE how open u are to trusting companions' choices and autonomy. obviously that doesn't always end well, but for characters like astarion and lae'zel i feel like it's so, so valuable
I really love that you were empathetic with the characters here, the writing in this game tho and the possibilities
Fun D&D fact: In the lore of the TTRPG, it is known that there are two types of dragons, Metallic and Chromatic. The first kind (Copper, Brass, Bronze, Silver and Gold) are considered the "good" species. The last kind (White, Green, Blue, Black and Red) are the "bad guys".
Interesting, I’ve been wondering why they were referred to by colors
Aahhh I was really curious to see what you thought of this part of the game! Heavy stuff with Astarion, and I agree what you said about his character. I know d&d functions on stuff like alignments and good vs. evil but people aren't so clear cut. The fact that you get to encourage characters like Astarion and Lae'zel to see the nuances of their situations is really cool
Yeah I was meaning more of like evil in the sense of like bad person- I've gotten an influx of people completely writing off both him and Lae'zel as just bad people and thought it didn't quite match how they are
I don't know a whole lot about how the alignments work, though I think Larian did a pretty good job at making the characters feel like they have real nuances that actual people would also have
Orin’s kidnap victim can actually be other companions! For my run, she kidnapped Lae’zel and I just barely managed to save her lol
She was definitely smart not to take laezel from my playthrough lol
@@CuriouslyKay orin won't kidnap a romanced companion. she kidnapped Laezel, Gale, Halsin(or Minthara) who is not in your current team. if they are all in, she takes Yenna.
It seems that she kidnaps your lowest relationship companion or the one you use in your party least. Lae'zel always ended up body snatched for me
In my first playthrough Orin shapeshiffted into Lae'zel and killed Yenna. Heartbreaking.
She took Gale for me. I actually keep forgetting to go and try to save him tbh 😅😅😅 though I guess she can’t technically kill him with that orb in his chest 😂😂😂
Can't wait to see what you think of Act 3. I laughed when you repeated the githyanki battle cry; I've started doing the same thing in my Lae'zel romance playthrough. Next we'll be reading tir'su lol. Have fun!
Lmao one of these days for sure, at least the most used phrases I can pick up on
Act 3 so far is great!
Sorry I'm a month late but I love watching your playthrough and your commentary. I really appreciate what you said at 1:45:00. I think blanketing Astarion and Lae'zel as "evil" (or really any of the companions as just good vs evil) oversimplifies the complexity of their characters. One of the things I really enjoyed about this game is that ALL of the characters are "flawed" and nuanced but through the relationships that you build with them you can either lean into those "flaws" or help them grow into better people. I think your commentary on the subject was very astute.
Also unrelated but your Tav is really cute!!
I enjoy your playthrough SOOOO much! Your respect and love for the companions is heartwarming.
And almost every decision you made I also made in my first playthrough. Except for the romance with Lae'zel. To be honest... I didn't think much of her in my first playthrough, which may have been because I missed the monastery part of her story...
Astarion will always be my favorite character in every way, but Lae'zel has grown so much on me over the past few playthroughs! She's gorgeous!
And btw... Thanks for not letting Astarion ascend! 😍
Baldur's Gate 3 is game of the year, babyyy! Let's Gooo!
Absolutely deserved
When Astarion broke down, I did as well :(
Orin has 27 strength in slayer form, she can just pick up Halsin and put it in her pocket.
Does slayer form come with a handy kangaroo pouch?
I wish there was a choice for the middle term: free the spawns and and Astarion drink Cazador till the last drop of blood to become a true vampire.
Your empathy is amazing to watch, loving the journey!
Thank you! I did wonder how there could've been a way to help Astarion rather than the ritual (which felt a bit more like enabling than helping) so I wonder if they'll touch on that in the future? I've seen people mention things like the Wish spell could help but I don't know enough to speculate
I need more this playthrough is just the best I saw... And I saw many
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I thought maybe Ailyn realised she could have given Isobel eternal life through Lorroakans magic and by killing him she lost that chance. But I dont know if you can do that in the game.
I really love looking through your comments and seeing the nuance that astarion as a character deserves and rarely gets. Even with people who I’ve seen trying to romance him a lot of the comments are either babying him or just calling him irredeemable when he’s neither. His story is incredibly raw and depending on how you play it out, potentially incredibly empowering to severely traumatized people. It’s refreshing to see a comment section where people don’t brush off his bad actions but also recognize how important stories like his can be. I’ve loved seeing how you interact with all of the characters and have adored the community you’ve fostered around this game and will definitely have to binge a few of your other series!! If I hadn’t already subscribed I definitely would by now. My favorite part about this game is how hard it pushes that every person is just a person and your pre-conceived notions about the parts that make them up (such as them being gith, or a vamp spawn, or even an illithid like Omeluum) tells you nothing about them as a person.
On a side note: a lot of people hate that cazador doesn’t “look intimidating” but honestly I think he looks very much his part. He may not be the stereotypical sadistic abuser you see in media but I actually really appreciate that. Anyone you meet could be an abusive POS. Including the seemingly tiny unassuming rich dude that looks like you could punt him easily. I appreciate that he’s a bit smaller. It really highlights that emotional/psychological abuse is also abuse.
I would say that by the criteria of DND specific alignment, where Evil is thought of as selfish/self-preservation focused, I do think Astarion at least and possibly Lae'zel do start the story as evil-aligned characters, but they can absolutely change as it goes on
Absolutely.
Lae'zel rather classic Lawful Evil
Astarion rather chaotic evil.
Shadowheart might also be considered Evil at the start.
Ah, I don't really know how alignment like that is done. In this, I meant more in like the colloquial sense of being 'evil'
Looking into it more, I do see what you mean!
kay and shadowheart are on the same page about big halsin
Love your play though.❤❤
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55:44, if Rolan made it here and both his brother and sister survived, Rolan would help you in this fight and become the new tower owner.
Yeah, it's easy to have things not turn out in that questline, but Rolan's story arc is really cool if you manage to get everything lined up
I hope your game is updated with patch 5
Outside of the epilogue are there any more major changes to this act?
7000 vampires. You just released a vampire plague on Baldur’s gate in the middle of a mind slayer siege. Not enough chaos?
Everyone wants Tav. I guess that's what we get for spending hours of creation making our characters so beautiful, but the Emperors gotta know that we are way out of his league 😎
Bro I been subscribed for about a week I think and I'm already looking forward to more! Also I like how you've made your armor look like a PlayStation exclusive ❤️
Hell yeah glad to have you! You can most definitely tell blue is my favorite color lol
Youre reactions to everyone wanting to have sex with you are fucking relatable: "UÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄH" Nearly throwing myself of the chair. :D I enjoy your lets plays and i became a fan!
"wanna smash?"
"i'd rather stick to business"
"aight well you should consider getting some better insurance... bye"
Aaaahahaaa.... you remind me so of myself with the Tentacle romance scene. It scares me every time. I just kissed Gale good night and what did i see in my dream? A half naked Mindflayer...yuck! I sure woke up wanting to throw up.
I never even triggered the Mizora romance scene this time. Almost no partner will forgive that. Only Halsin in another playthrough wouldn't mind and Astarion was like "tell me everything!". So funny :D
And no, Astarion didn't ascend for me either, again. He was my best friend after i let him stake Cazador...let it all out dude. I just wish i could have hugged him, even as a friend i felt sorry for Astarion. I also didn't kill the baby vampires. I mean, some of them are still kids turned onto vampires. Can't do that.
But ...since this morning, my playthrough is finished. This weekend i will try to update my agme, with hopefully no problems. Wish me luck ^^
That sounds dope! I assume you haven't gotten to the epilogue part since it wasn't updated?
@@CuriouslyKay Yeah, i haven’t seen the new epilogue yet
@@MoonsongReverb I’m excited to see how it turns out for you, an epilogue feels like just the thing this game needed
@@CuriouslyKay Yeah, I always made up my own so far. But i hope to see soon what they came up with
Question tho. Youve already killed loroacan but have you finished gale's quest? Cause its in loroacan's tower. I hope you wont skip it. It will tell you more about him.
Do you mean finding that book? I did do that, though it seems quite short of a scene for him. Should be in a future video though!
@@CuriouslyKay a lot of Gale's content/information are actually kinda exclusive in his romance routine. so you would know less about him if you didn't romance him. 😬
@@alexwang3282 ah that makes sense. I think astarion is like that too? I feel like I don’t know a lot about him but that might be because he wasn’t in my party as much
@@CuriouslyKay after you read the book. There should be a certain someone showing up that will ask gale to meet another certain someone. I forgot where, but it might be in the camp or outside the sundries where that certain someone will show up.
@@CuriouslyKay pretty much every romancable companion I think. they open up more if you romance them, for Gale it's particular a lot more than the other I think.
it seems like mizora's proposition triggers after mr tentacles decides to make a move on you lol. it happened for me too. 😅
looking forward to see this part of BG3 through your eyes.
Your playthrough has been so interesting and fun to watch and that is mainly due to your personality.
Keep doing what you are doing - it's great.
Thank you so much!
Your reaction to the emperor scene lmao. I admit when I got it I was like, should I save and say yes just to see what would happen? But my characters are too loyal to their partners.
Plus there’s always RUclips lmao
Yeah even outside of cheating on laezel, the voice actor being a man was most definitely throwing me off from wanting a scene like that lol
Absolutely seeing what that scene looks like next run though
@@CuriouslyKay honestly, I’ve got a chaotic evil durge run going that I’ll try that scene if it appears. It’ll take a while since I’m still finishing up my first act 3 clear with my good bard, but it’s something to look forward to.
I wrote my first comment after the scene so I’ll add a second here. About the Astarion story conclusion. It’s so much. My bard is romancing him and the Sebastian scene prompted an interesting conversation. He asked if he would’ve ended up like Sebastian if they’d met before, and Astarion was like, pretty much, with such an upset face. Astarion really is just grasping at power because he thinks power means safety. Having seen some spoilers about how Ascended Astarion acts I knew it would destroy him. People that prefer him after the ritual, I’ll never understand.
I also couldn’t make myself kill all the 7000 spawn ;-; they deserve a chance to try and live a better life. Wild how this video game can grip onto us so hard, but that’s how stories are.
im obsessed with your videos n channel... yr so effortlessly funny and in depth and passionate abt the characters and prioritize the girlies. love love loveeee
1:05:33 that's a quote straight from the original Dracula book 😂 I love that
Your reaction to the naked emperor sent me 😂
YAAAAAY NEW POST!!!!
And if I can be completely honest, your decision is not far from the best. At least, mine cost me my Paladin's Oath been broken.
Oh damn, what oath was broken? I was thinking of playing a paladin for my durge run but the oath part seems stressful
@@CuriouslyKay mine was Oath of the Ancients.
@@Sonyuu can’t even lie, breaking your oath on this choice is kinda cool though. Like that’s some tv show shit
@@Sonyuu oh weird! Mine is Vengeance and I was scared letting the spawn go would break my oath. It didn't, but it would have been worth it. What a cool thing to break your Oath on!
@@CuriouslyKay Personally I find paladins fun to play, roleplay wise. Like sometimes it's possible to break an oath trying to do the good thing, and then have to ponder whether to go back to the old oath or decide it was too restraining to choose the right choice. Or be tempted by some evil power and forsake the oath. So many ways to create a dramatic story.
I respect the choice, I mostly wanted to see what would happen if you let Astarion go through with the ritual, but it's your play through.
I am interested in that too, might do some kind of reaction in the future since idk if I can get myself to make that decision lol