Springfield Hellcat Review...Plus One Step Above The P365?
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I give it a 10, it's a perfect CCW handgun with very little to snag on clothing and love the sights. Easy to pick up with the eyes and plenty of rounds not to mention it just passed a 10,000 round test and still kept going....Springfield hit the mark on this one. 👍✌
They put that same 10.000 rnd gun thru 10.000 more so 20.000 ends not a single hicup
I would give it a 5! Hokey sights, blade on trigger. Looked at it and Sig P365 closely, bought the Sig P365! No regrets. My Dog came with 3 - 12 round mags. If I need more than 13 shots, one more probably won't save me! I pray to God I NEVER have to fire it at another human being. But if I have to, I can and will!! 😬😖😭🤒
It passed the 20k test as well lol
Someone else put 10k +P ammo through one too. Good pistol.
I just bought a Hellcat, I can't believe how much I love it. I have never really been able to carry concealed comfortably, but this weapon makes it all possible. I forget I have it on me. I carry it appendix with a crucial concealment holster. I love my set up, thank you for the review and thanks Springfield for hitting a home run with this.
This is one of the best Hellcat reviews that I have seen. Many of the others are obviously bias towards the Springfield as soon as the video begins, therefore they do not an equal comparison of the Hellcat to the Sig. 365. The Hellcat is slightly wider than the 365 and it is lighter than the 365 when both guns are empty, and that Is why I think so many comment about how snappy the Hellcat is to shoot. With the extended mag in both guns, I can get 3 fingers on the 365 but I get more like 2.5 on the Hellcat. My little finger is not completely on the mag with the Hellcat, but even with that the Hellcat holds one more round than the 365.
I have the Hellcat, the 365, 365 XL and a Smith and Wesson Shield. The Shield is a fantastic gun for the money since you can now find one for $250 NIB but I like the shape of the grip better on the Sig and the Springfield and both hold more rounds than the Shield. I like all of them but chose the 365 as my daily carry gun.
You realize people give you their opinion, which is subjective right? it doesn't mean they're biased. One could just claim this guy is biased against them. Which is a retarded stance. He has his own valid view, and take it for what it's worth along with others.
You see, I don’t care about bias. Everybody is biased but people seem to have this stupid need to be unbiased so they aren’t truthful with where their bias is. I love H&K and so if I were to make a video on their products o would say so. It doesn’t mean that I hate Sig or Glock or Springfield or S&W. Those are all great products as well. It’s just that I am biased towards H&K and to pretend otherwise is stupid.
I like H&K guns also
P365 SAS with the finger groove mag is a full grip for me. Hellcat is a 2 ish finger grip like a Glock 26. Both the Glock and Hellcat are fatter and taller at the point of trigger pull. The SIG has a closer bore axis to trigger pull. ruclips.net/video/ucA9jcBwx-8/видео.html
What do you prefer about the Hellcat over the 365? Other than it has an extra round
Just received mine and it came with 1 11 round mag and 2 13 round mags....I don’t know if it was a mistake but I’m not complaining🤷♂️
Lucky duck!
It was , only comes with 2 mags
The Grumman F6F Hellcat, WW-II Fighter, was one impressive airplane!! It’s an awesome tribute Springfield has done naming this great gun after an airplane like the Hellcat!! Love the gun too!!
...jst bought the Hellcat ...zero issues with slide groves and trigger ....in fact I had my mind set on the Sig ....but the Hellcat came out on top , ultimately....btw Autreys Armory in Fayetteville , Ga ...they have close to 10 of the Hellcats in stock ...no I don't work there etc ...jst saying , they have them... cheers
I like this gun so much I just purchased my 2nd hellcat in fde color. I want to say I compared this gun to a fully loaded car. It’s the whole package. A perfect concealed carry pistol. As always, great video and thank you. 👍🏻👍🏻
Until a better one comes out and y'all point out all it's flaws that were never discussed before. Just like when the 365 first came out.
I rented both the Sig P365 and the Hellcat and shot them side by side. I bought the Sig. The P365 has a much softer recoil and a better trigger. Best advice? Rent both and shoot them and see what works best for you.
Dqalex did the same and I’m glad I did. I really wanted to like the hellcat however overall lack luster experience with it over 90 rounds. On the other hand, only 2 rounds into firing the P365 I knew I was going to buy one.
Wish that was an option. There are no ranges anywhere near me.
excellent point and advice.
@Ricky Ricardo I got burned with the Glock 43. I read the reviews and bought it. I shot it twice. Hated it. After that I swore I would try to rent the gun I wanted to buy and shoot it before I bought it. I traded in the Glock 43 towards the Sig P365. I got burned on the trade but I learned a lesson
@Ricky Ricardo how much you want for it?
I have the p365 and as soon as I got it, i knew it was a great carry gun. Unfortunately I live in a 10 round max capacity, which is one of the reasons I went with the p365, but no regrets what so ever. With all that being said, I also like this gun
I'm sold on this. Just a few more weeks until I have my cc license woooooh!!!
I love my P365 it's my church gun, I carry it when I wear a suit and tie to church on Sunday it will disappear in my waist, down the line I might add a Hellcat.
@J C yes, I would never in all of my life would have thought that, never. I have been in the church since 1979 and now you is not safe in the house of God. It goes to show you that times is getting worse and worse but I still carry hoping I never have to use it.
Good review. I understand the concept behind these small pistols. I know it is not always convenient or possible, depending on the circumstance to carry a larger pistol. However, there is a trade off with these guns in terms of grip and recoil. I know 9mm is not that stout of a round, but having something you can hold properly and not jump as much in your hand does have its advantage. I try to carry my Glock 19 everyday. I find it is not that hard to conceal, and in the very unlikely chance I need it, I want to have the pistol on me that I shoot best and not just the one that was easiest to carry. Plus, it transitions easily from holster to the night stand without having difficulty finding weapon light that will fit it. To each their own, and it is not a Glock vs Springfield issue for me. I would take any number of guns in the same class as the 19 over this. Smaller is not always better, despite the trend to design guns that fit in your pocket and hold as many rounds as a full size pistol. If you can hit your target, fine, but if you can’t, no amount of capacity is going to bail you out of a bad situation, and you are doing yourself and others a disservice by carrying solely on convenience.
I could not agree with you more. Good comment. I have a P365 and It took me more rounds down range to get used to shooting it accurately. Recoil wasn't a thing just my hand adjusting to it. Same thing happened with my Walther PPSM2..300 to 500 rounds got me where I wanted to be for a carry gun. The Hellcat seems great but I will wait a year and see.
Steve Garis Haven’t carried a gun in over 25 years but if I ever felt the need I still have my Glock 19 that I have pushed several thousand rounds through. And you’re right these new super compacts are a little easier to carry but I don’t know if you are going to look forward to going to the range with one of them once or twice a week
@@warrengaskin3863 I could shoot the hellcat and the sig p238 all day. The smaller sight length helps me get on target quicker and I just prefer to have a rifle as opposed to a full size pistol. Its just my preference but its about time these smaller high capacity options were available. Thanks sig for the p365 and HS for making it better
OH my, she is my new EDC, sent my G42 to the rocking chair.
Found it funny that they have the American flag in the inside of the box when the pistol is made in Croatia.
Most of our flags and americana shwag is made in china, so it's part for the course.
What a great review! I have 2- P365s that I use for off-duty use, but I do like the feel of the Hellcat as well. I’ll probably buy one just to have one, but your assessment of the finer features of the gun are probably correct. Sig is a hard act to beat for sure. I believe most professionals tend to lean toward the Sig, but it will be interesting to see what other aftermarket features come out to make the Hellcat better- trigger spring kits, grips, sights, etc
I have not yet actually fired the Hellcat but it looks and feels well made. I own a P365 and really like it. I had Sig send me the 5/19 version striker which seems to have reduced the striker drag on the primer. It is still there, but much less severe. I am not going to rush out and buy the Hellcat for one additional round just like I did not rush out to buy the P365 for 3 additional rounds over my Ruger LC9s Pro or my S&W Shield.
I, like you was not real impressed with the trigger. I like the Sig trigger better even with the curvature. I will be able to tell better after I have an opportunity to fire the Hellcat. I am also partial to the sights on the Sig. The blacked out rear sight with tritium inserts works exceptionally well for me when paired with the highly visible front sight with tritium insert.
Another excellent and unbiased review. I appreciate your candid reviews. I do look forward to getting some range time with the Hellcat, but to actually purchase one, I will wait about a year, unless it just blows me away.
For off duty carry and standard sights it looks like a good gun, I'm a slender build so the being a compact firearm I'm seriously considering getting one. I carried a Springfield 45 XD duty for armed security and it was great, thanks for the review.
I have a Hellcat . I also have a Tulster and Vedder holster and the Vedder holster is better for IW carry.
I've tried a Glock 43x and SIG 365. Then I tried a hellcat and fell in love with this firearm. By the far the CCW for me.
I have the Hellcat with optic and a 365XL. I will say that I am much more accurate with the XL without optics than the HC with. I appreciate the size of the HC and it is my EDC. I fit that group of older shooters that appreciate the value of optics, All my pistols have them the HC has a RMSc and the 365XL has a Sig Romeo Zero. Like I said having both, each has its place in my arsenal.
Parrot cam.
I think that if it had a lighter trigger pull and different rear sight that it would go from a ok gun to a more superb one. I have on my GL19 tritium front and rear sights with rear sight also being a u notch sight. The front sight also has that day glow looking circle around the tritium insert. This setup makes for accurate fun target shooting as i can nail anything i aim at. (POA&POI 15 yards)But of course on a gun with a shorter barrel/sight radius one would have to aim more accurately than a gun with a longer sight radius.
The Camera Angle Is Great..
But, ... Taking Down The Plate Rack Was...
AWESOME.!!
Someone please explain this whole safety on trigger thing to me. Seems like the only thing it's good for is drop proofing it. Anything that snags the trigger will probably hit the safety too.
Think you answered your own dumb question
@@skellington2000 So don't drop the dam thing. Didn't your momma teach you anything?
I didn't really like red dots on handguns at first either. I have to say, not all red dots are created equal. I had a Vortex Razor and it was just very mediocre and had very little to offer for something carrying their flagship "Razor" name. Once I got a Holosun though it was an absolute game changer. Holosun really is putting out next level technology that other companies just aren't keeping up with. Shake awake, auto-shutoff, solar backups, smart lighting adjustment, side loading battery, multiple reticles, 6MOA training halo, RMR footprint, etc.
The one negative if you can even call it that is the magazine wiggles around to much when in gun and while gripping/shooting, it has not yet affected funtion buy they could have made the mags even wider if they wanted to to stop some of the play.
Love my hellcat, 365 didn't do it for me. People just need to try both. Pick which one they prefer
PS. the trigger does lighten up the more you shoot. Mines at 5.
This is the favorite easy to conceal gun of choice for Chuck's High School age son. Chuck is very proud of what a good shooter his son is.
I have a Glock 43X -with 700.00 in upgrades-No lights or RMR. trigger, steel pins, green laser, sights. I am not thrilled. I love the Sig P365 line up, from the origional to the "Custom Works" P365 XL-1,200.00 model. With Wilson Combat grips. I am really wanting to check out the "Hellcat".- I have heard they are good -Except for the trigger-100.00 to upgrade. I do not fix anything until I have tried it. The measurments suit me-everything looks good. I am having a hard time buying another pistol, as I have to many. I may try to "Trade in"- the problem is these gun shops love to take your money. When it comes to selling/trading, everything I bought from them that was great then, now sucks. That is the general mantallity of gun shops. I was in the concert biz for decades. I understand sleaze ball thinking. Trust me.
I have the XD mod 2 it's 1 of my EDCs and I love it so I'm sure I'd like the hellcat. Great review 👍
I have the mod 2 as well. Considering this for appendix carry.
I went with the Sig p365 over the Hellcat. Just because of the sights!! Not a fan of the U shape on the cat! I absolutely love my Sig!!
They now have 15 RD mags. And gives you room for your pinky
I have the hellcat pro and just love it .
Thanks for mentioning the pinky extension on the 11 round magazine I haven't seen that on any of the video. Gives a little extra real estate for your pinky finger
I bought my first handgun October 2. Walther PPQ, malfunctions, sent it back they did a bunch of stuff, now it’s great, next bought used p365 from Feb 2019, failure to feed, sent back they polished feed ramp, replaced springs, now it’s great. 3rd one on new Friday. Ruger lcp 2 shot Monday 5 failure to eject, send back today, they said it’s known issue. WTF ?? The only thing that works so far without fix was my used 357 gp 100 match champion
Ben Jammin buy a Glock and never worry about that again.
Well, I love my Sig P365 with a 12 round mag and one in the breach. 13 rounds of self defense. I carry in a pocket hostler and completely concealed. What I like is that half the time if cannot feel that I am carrying a firearm which is great if you need one. It is their and no body know I am carrying. Completely concealed... and little or no print..
trigger kit and i was doing head shots at 25yrds n an idpa match. can’t make everyone happy but for the right experienced shooter it’s a fantastic tool
Amazing pistol. The Hellcat is a huge improvement over the 365
The Hellcat is indeed awesome. But it doesn't have a removable chassis. Less customization options. Still a great gun, but I'm sticking with my p365.
I love my hellcat. But still carry my 365 and 365xl.
CENTER MASS do you prefer to carry the 365 or the xl?
@@karmyscrudge the xl.
Have you experienced any failure to return to battery with your 365xl?
@@kylefreemason no i havent with mine but i have seen that as a problem with some peoples.
@JusticeAA i did that also with my dads 365. He ordered the xl grip module and i put his standard 365 slide on it.
Thank you for another well done and informative review. I was looking forward to this video. In my review of the Hellcat I came to many of the same conclusions. Cheers!
Nice! Thanks for watching brother
The M18 Hellcat also was an American tank destroyer of World War II, also used in the Korean War.
I now have the Hellcat and it is a fine EDC..however IMO it's a bit snappy compared to the P365. I am going to put more rounds down range to see how much more I can dial it in but I certainly plan to carry it from time to time. For now my EDC remains P365. The adaptive grip texture is a great feature for a beginner to understand proper engagement and purchase. When I held it, I said "Oh damn...really?"..it felt that good. Had to buy it!
12:12 my exact reaction as well after the first shot! Kind of a shocker eh? ha!
The Hell Cat Navy fighter in WWII was a Grumman made aircraft.
It had a 50 to 1 kill ratio against all Japanese aircraft. It was responsible for the analiation of the Japanese air power in the pacific. (Responsible for the Great Marianas turkey shoot in WWII)
No other plane has then or since have a record even close to it.
The pistol was well made and well named.
Great review. Funny that you compared the Hellcat and 365. My wife is looking to replace her XDS and has been looking at both of these pistols. She wants a little more capacity. She has been leaning more toward the Hellcat. I will be showing her this video when she gets home this evening.
Fantastic gun. Out of box I was surprised by how easy it was to shoot and accurate.
I will stick to the Taurus g2c.
We can start a go fund me for ya
Happy Days hi there not try to argue but I have heard nothing but great things about the g2c. For the money you spend on some of the big names out there you can buy a g2c and 500 rounds of ammo
@@happydays6570 its obvious u haven't used a Taurus g2c or g3 I have glock sig and beretta and my Taurus are ever bit as reliable.
@@brizzle897 I have glocks sig and beretta and my Taurus has proven to be every bit as reliable as them.
Hellcat is a solid reliable firearm excellent
Great presentation, definitively a interesting hand gun. Just a fyi.... Hellcat was also a tank destroyer - M10 Hellcat. I do angry as to the rear sight. It would kill them to add a tritium rear sight. This XD Croation Brotherhood member is not impressed....
For deep concealment the Springfield and Sig do the job well. However, if you can carry a larger pistol successfully and comfortably . . most will be happier.
I'm considering between the Glock 26 gen5 and CZ P10S if I cant find one or Gen5 Glock 19 What do you think?
@@skittykitty1000 Either is a choice that you must decide based on how it feels for you. Between the two, I prefer the CZ.
@@skittykitty1000 I prefer the Sig P365! Tried the Glocks, Hellcats, everything the dealer had, choose the Sig P365! No regrets, love it, highly recommend it!! 😀🥰😁
@@davidpelton1885 I won't buy another polymer Sig. Had problems with my 290RS and the rest have all had major problems. Great shooters but I don't trust them.
@@davidpelton1885 I love my P238 though.
Shooter didn't blink until last round... nice bro
Man I love my 365 the one I got was made in 2019 I put 50 rounds through it when I first got it and no striker drag at all great hand gun might pick up a hell cat later..... psych
I hate when people complain about boxes. Not you, but other reviewers. Like who cares? I have No idea where my boxes or cases even are.
My xdm has been flawless.ran cheap to expensive. No issues.just picked up the hellcat with the lazer viridian. Never tried a lazer.should be interesting. Came with 5 15 round mags and a bag from sportsmans.
I have both the Sig P365 and XL versions and compared them to the Hellcat, I like the sights on the Hellcat as well as the mag release better than the Sig's, but overall, shooting experience, especially the triggers, were far superior in the Sig's than the Hellcat in my opinion.
I agree exactly
I think I like modular design also. Down the road I should be able to change grip colors cheaply. The are selling coyote ones now for 26.00 which gives you the black and tan look like Springfields have.
I agree as well although the Hellcat does feel more solidly made and I like how well I can grip the Hellcat but like you said the 365's trigger is much better so it's easier to shoot very accurately, don't get me wrong I can shoot just as well with the Hellcat it just does not come as easy as it does with the 365.
@@justhere8149 Put a Hogue grip on your 365 and you will
be amazed
I shot both Hellcat and P365 side by side. The Hellcat was the far superior pistol to me. Ergos, trigger, sights, capacity, RELIABILITY, everything felt better on the Hellcat.
And the Hellcat actually WORKS!
Have you had a chance to look at the new M&P 2.0 Subcompact?
Comparing the Hellcat with the P365, the Hellcat has a larger beaver tail. Have big hands and got slide bite with the 365. Hope the Hellcat beaver tail is enough for me. Have held the Hellcat, but haven't had a chance to shoot one. The other option will be the P365XL, which also has a larger beavertail.
The grip handle was actually smaller in my hand with the Hellcat. My medium size hands could get 2 and only 2 fingers on the Hellcat, with flush mount, and 2.75 on the Sig.
@@justmehere6094 Luckily the mags come with pinky extensions.
@@IcarsisTV Well, they both do. That wasn't the point. NCtrail4R was talking about Hellcat's bigger Beavertail. Just pointing out that imho The Hellcat actually has less room for larger hands.
I'm better with the hellcat , like the feel of it better hell hikkok45 says several times he likes the grip better and you can tell he shoots the hellcat better and he has huge hands lol but , to each his own
@@ritathomas5076 And I like the feel of ,and it fits better for me, with the P365. I also shoot the P365 better (and faster with accuracy). THe Hellcat was a lot snappier in my hand from kick.
The sig just feels better in my hand .
So, they provide you for an optic which assumes you're older - but the slide is difficult to rack for an older person with weaker hands or less dexterity? I also think the Hellcat has more snap the Sig P365. How long will it be before S&W does a 9EZ that holds 11+1? Until then, Sig wins.
big fan of the hellcat, with the extended mags it fits me perfectly and i prefer to carry it over my glock
Great video as always thanks!
Man I love those Tulster holsters I got the Blood Red for the Hellcat and gray for the 365. The Tulster for the Hellcat is so awesome especially the cut under the trigger guard I think it's their best mold yet.
I got the carbon fiber black one with matching mag holder.also have one for my shield. Love Tulster holsters
I got the carbon fiber OATH for my Hellcat OSP and it’s the most comfortable IWB holster I’ve ever had. Tulster has incredible customer service and makes quality products they will be my first choice , when I’m in the market for a holster
Thanks, appreciate the effort. I first got into CCW, oh, must be 15 years ago now and in that time, I chased a few “latest and greatest”, did some trades etc only to find myself in front of a new wave of latest/greatest (small, slim, increased capacity)! If I were new-ish to the market, I’d probably be tempted by this or the Sig but I found that the right holster and belt allows me to carry quite a bit. I like the Vedder holsters w/ the claw. I can carry my H&K VP9 SK (and full size sibling) easily and shoot it well so I’ll be sticking with what I’ve got and passing on these latest options.
I would like to see the Hellcat compared to the M&P 9c. Is it a worthy EDC upgrade?
I'm doing it with my 9c, probably light-years ahead of it.
I bought this pistol at Christmas for my wife. She picked out a real winner here. Win, win, I get to shoot it any time I want.
$300 caniks come in TSA approved hardshell cases. For me, the fact that this comes in cardboard is a deal breaker.
How often are you flying with your gun? A carry gun goes in a holster and most people don't even use a case.
Lol.... the silliness....
MrKimber Oh, and guess what comes WITH every single Canik? A holster! They are disrupting in the best way possible. You should try one!
It is very subjective. I have a p365x and 2 standard 365's, and 2 Hellcats.
I have become obsessed with the Hellcat. I love the sights and have shot more bullseye's with the cat than any other handgun I have owned. As for the trigger, I dropped $59.95 on a MCARBO spring kit for the Cat. The trigger is now very much better than my sig triggers. I like my P365X but love the Hellcat. I personally don't find the hellcat snappy, I am a sturdy guy so it doesn't feel snappy. If Springfield Armory would have put a great trigger in from the factory they would have taken over the micro compact world.
Have the Hellcat and the 365X, there are things I like about both, but I'll take the 365X over the Hellcat every time, to me the 365X shoots smoother, like the feel in my hand more, like the trigger more, it's not as snappy as the Hellcat, with that said, I like the Hellcat's sights especially the front one, very easy to focus on.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND VIDEO CONTENT, KEEP DOING WHAT YA DOING!!!!
It's funny 11 round mags make's the gun unavailable in California Sig was using their heads with 10
Good point
Sorry, Cali no new toys for you.
Springfield has indicated they are going to be releasing 10 round mags for restricted states after the new year sometime.
@@joeschnapps1712 Seems like a brain lapse doesn't it? I guess having 11 for the most was more important.
@ D LAW - No, Sig just couldn't fit more rounds, why else would they create a 12 and 15 round mag? If the P365 could fit 12 rounds flush they would have and just make a mag that carries 10 rounds for the Commies. Sig just got beat at their own game, lol!
After all this years, i still not understand why everybody call HS Pistols "Springfield"
It is HS Hellcat and not Springfield Hellcat.
I couldn't decide between the 365 and the Hellcat......so I bought both.
I'm just going to stick with my P365,but I do wish it was optics ready like the Hellcat.
Well everybody springfield has apologized children when they give us the HELLCAT they said here I'm sorry
Word. S&W and Ruger pulled even more egregious sh*t against the gun community back in the 90's and it's as if it never even happened... Springfield made a serious (and stupid) mistake but they acknowledged it and have been trying to atone for it since then. I own a few of their products and couldn't be happier (XD40 mod 2, XDM elite and hellcat).
Does the 17 round mag fits the hellcat osp? I have one but its not pro
Thick heavy slide on a short barrel gun is never enjoyable.. I wont be looking to trade my PPS M2 in for one but the extra ammo would be nice.. The lil Walther is small enough I can carry with the 8rd extended mag. and I believe in most situations is enough.. and the pistol width being single stack makes it a breeze to carry IWB or ankle as a back up. Great vid! Thanks!
Great review Heg, I like it but i'm not sure I really need it.
Probably not knowing you lol 👊
Trust me youll love it
tried a hallcat at the range; did not care for that crescent moon rear sight either; it thru me off; took a while longer to be laser focused on that front sight because of it
did feel a bit snappy just like the shield 2.0;
I honestly shot better with the shield 2.0 apples to apples right side by side at the range;
But THEN i tried the SIG P365 XL and I knew this was the one! Felt better in my hand; the sights were also amazing; It just was so much easier for ME at least to start shooting well with it; vs the Hellcat
so ya, did not fall in love with the Hellcat either; Wish I did bc SA makes great stuff
The box is great if you didn't have to pay for the weapon but if you shelled out $500++ maybe not??
So I like the camera angle.
It's also a WWII tank destroyer name, but I doubt either have anything to do with why it was named a Hellcat.
I just ordered mine today 519.00 can’t wait to get it 😅
Hey, may I ask where you found for that price? I’m shopping for one now. Haven’t seen any that low.
It seems every firearm company has these types of sub-compact pistols since the M&P Shield first came out.
garageguy879 What in the world are you talking about? The Glock 26 predates the Shield by 18 years and it is double stack just like the Hellcat and the P365.
Yes,,you're right about the G26.But what I was talking about is the sudden appearence of many sub compact pistols since the Shield.When the Glock 26 came out,there wasn't near as much competition in that size back then as there is since the Shield first came out.
The new SCCY DVG1 looks very promising. American made w/ a red dot for$389!
They actually wasn't trying to one up sig on rd count. They fully intended on making a 10&12 rd mag just like sig. It just so happened that in making the mags they could get an extra rd in. I think it's due to the mag not having that angle sig put on theirs.
11+1 is incredible for such a smaller gun.
Think this gun might be it for my next. Wanted a 365 but after seeing the problems from before and the rusting issues a few people have had on both the original and the xl, I’ll probably just pick up the hellcat for the same price. Love the fact it comes with the longer mag as well. Sig should think about shipping theirs with a 10 and a 12 from the factory
If you have a HELLCAT keep it!
The precision/accuracy, capacity and upgrades are Phenomenal!
Next GENS will have nothing on it.
How much more can you do to get a better quality and durable self defense handgun for EDC?
The 9.5 evaluation is correct for the HELLCAT.
Just got one this past Wednesday
If I had to choose one now I'd go with the Sig. But, since I don't, I'll wait for Smith to get in the game in this category of carry gun before I make up my mind.
Red dot should make it rock..
1 tritium dot vs 3? USA vs Croatia? Is one more round worth the trade offs? Are you willing to spend money with Springfield after their questionable decisions? I'm sticking with the Sig.
Marty Bugg, are you willing to stake your life on a gun that has proven unreliable? It’s made by a company that pushes guns out that aren’t ready. Their first customers are the test subjects. I’ll go with Springfield and Glock, I choose life.
@@Glockguy1987 I've been carrying Sigs since the 80s when the P220s hit our shores and was their only gun. I run my guns, work at Saddle River Range and the 365 is the most rented gun in our rental case. They're very reliable and mine has been no exception.
GlockGuy87 look up glock failure.
The hands drive me crazy!
I have an important update. Mag Gut +2 make you p365 12 rounds magazine +2. Now you have the best micropistol(P365) with 14 rounds. Better than hellcat.
Hellcat is best. Nothing could be better
@@youngboyharless9769 You just a young boy. You will never understand😂😂😂😂😂
I am left handed and I am able to lift the slide lock on both sides of my Springfield XDM Elite 4.5 but not sure I will be able to with this gun due to it not sticking out like my gun does. what do you think?
Is this a good deep concealment CCW for a woman? And is the slide easier to handle, more difficult, or the same as a SCCY CPX-1?
Nice review, thanks
So everyone is saying that HC is more snappier. Has any owner try to remedy this issue with after market part (just carious)
big64dave i have owned both, recoil wise there is no noticeable difference. The sig has failed numerous times on me, hellcat has been flawless so far
@@trevorhonis4505 thx Trevor, i tried handling both of them out at gun shop and found HC is fit my hand better then Sig. didn't shoot them though since they won't rent them out. i'm going with HC and waiting for it
Just bought a hellcat that came with the smsc red dot and love it. I'm a bit of a springfield fan boy as I've never bought more guns from a manufacturer than them. I've owned thoer xd in .357 sig, regret getting rid of my xdm in .45 but I honestly like my sig 220 more. Best full sized conceal carry I've ever owned. But I feel like I must get the xdm elite 9mm lol they've been shit heads in the recent past but if I were to hold grudges I really wouldn't be buying guns lol
I'm in between the hellcat and a p320. What do you guys think?
Im not a fan… stalls… im not a fan… stalls…. Im not a fan…. Stalls. You get the picture
Bro stop trying to make cons. Your just bias with the shield.
I love my hellcat its fully equipped no malfunctions yet.
Amberide makes a great holster for this pistol $26.99 lots of these holster companies are way over priced.