@@zbudda apparently you did, as did the rest of us. If multiplication of force failed, subtraction of assailants most definitely would have. Simple math, yes? 😉
@@Theonetruegod-hw2ei Compare Jan 6th to the summer of love 2020 when BLM and Antifa were burning down Cities !! This requires an open mind, the ability to think independently and remain unbiased !!
@@alhorn2664 @5:23 you can see the grip of the guys pistol in his pocket, along with always carrying with one in the chamber people should be very aware of their surroundings and the details within said surroundings. (Edit) didn't know he was the victim.
Try racking a slide under serious stress and being rushed, even if you are really good with your gun you will still short stroke it, or somehow won’t chamber a round at least 1 out of 5 tries. That’s a 20% failure rate. Would you carry a gun that malfunctioned 20% of the time. People not well trained the rate drops to chambering a round less than half the time.
@@charlesprice7608 you should carry with one on the chamber, however if you can’t perform every function of your gun smoothly you shouldn’t be carrying it at all
I actually have talked to a few guys that really think they could put their seatbelt on DURING an accident. They also don’t chamber a round when carrying. I wish I was kidding
The youngest Vietnam vet was Dan Bullock, falsified his birth certificate at 14 years old, was killed in action at 15. My friend "Red" also falsified his birth certificate to get into the fighting at 17, so when I was 17 goofing off in study hall he was in a fox hole fighting for his life being over run by the NVA. I guess it really isn't the age but probably how fast you have to grow up. Regards, Denis Berte' USMC (Nam 70-71).
I used to carry without one in the chamber until ine of my work associates, who isn't a upstanding part of society, he's a convicted felon and has been to prison many times, told me that I wasn't fast enough to carry the way I was carrying. He laughed at me and said boy, you better carry that thing hot or somebody gonna send you back home. I took that to heart.
@@pauliexcluded1 he's good because he likes me. I've seen what he's capable of if someone crosses him the wrong way, the reason he has been in prison. He's going through some therapy now so maybe it will help. He's 6'3 and weighs 210 and mostly muscle so I do my best not to get him riled up..lol
Rittenhouse already taught us this lesson very well. He showed that legally this is true, and that if you do things right and are justified then even defending yourself against a whole crowd is legally acceptable.
@@thekamotodragonWrong, as everything he did in that situation was illegal. He was across state lines with a weapon he legally could not possess and was “defending” property that isn’t his nor did he have any connection to. He also, as you people seem to love to forget…. ANTAGONIZED the people. He also realistically wasn’t rushed by a “mob” it was the guy he killed and a few people who were near, but no one else actually attempted to touch him until after he aimed the gun. So the entire thing was his fault, and he got off simply due to incompetence and legal bias. So maybe try a different argument
People need to stop thinking that they need to fire the weapon to practice. There is lots of practice that needs to be done on the mechanics of your pistol draw. Empty your weapon. Practice drawing your pistol. Over and over again. Hours of practice. Watch for mistakes and areas where you can improve.
@WeedMan-u6n You misquoted him and took it out of context. He is saying that people need to stop thinking that live fire training is the only way to practice. So, you're saying he's wrong but then saying the exact same thing he said, just wording it differently because you failed to understand what he actually said, which wasn't to stop live practicing but to stop thinking it's the only way. I dry fire, mag swap, etc. while sitting in my lazboy chair in my living room with my pistol and my rifle. Learn reading comprehension and perhaps, just a thought, stop smoking weed.
@@James_Bee HEY HEY HEY NOW !!!!!! Don’t blame it on the weed. It’s the weekend been smoking all day. And I completely understood what he was saying. That crutch won’t hold weight . 🤣
@marcustalley7987 you think people should shoot less? It doesn't really matter how smooth your draw is if you can't hit the broadside of a barn door. People need to KEEP thinking that they need to fire their gun to practice. Saying that they don't is like saying you don't actually need to drive the car to practice driving you can just sit in your driveway and start it and put it in gear but you don't need to actually DRIVE
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His 1st mistake was going outside & allowing multiple blind spots & a mob to surround him. He should have locked the doors, if possible, after they cleared the store. Situational Awareness
Yeah he put himself in a bad situation, I wonder if his decision to go outside towards the danger would have been held against him legally had he fired a round and killed someone? I've survived a long time without finding myself caught up in a rapidly deteriorating situation like that because nothing is important enough to go arguing back and forth with a hostile crowd on the verge of violence. That probably would have been considered had this played out differently.
@@jellyrollthunder3625 it very well could end up catching him an aggravated-assault charge, or two, or three...w/o having fired it. He goes all the way out into the street, into the middle of the group, waving it around and pointing at people with finger on trigger. Then says really dumb stuff to the press. Prosecutor knows political winds, and might not charge him. But very well could. And arguably, should.
@@ShastaBean Looked like he pulled it out AFTER the attack began. I'm sure he won't have too much trouble arguing that he felt like his life was in imminent danger at that specific moment. I think that is the main consideration by the prosecutor. That is usually the make or break factor of any questionable deadly force self-defense case
I had a dream years ago and in the dream, I was in the situation where there was two guys in the room with me. BOTH (2) bad guys ---- THE one sitting on my left, already with his gun in his hand, intimidating me ---- I'm carrying, THEY don't know yet ---- BUT I don't dare move, or draw, because I didn't have a round in the chamber. ----- IMAGINE THAT, a dream caused me to be vigilant to carry a round in the chamber.
I live in Canada and a week after my house got broke into I had a dream where someone broke into my house and the only thing I had was a break action double barrel. It either malfunctioned or I didn't have it loaded because as soon as I pulled the trigger I was ripped out of my dream without a boom going off. The dream is even more funny because we can't defend ourselves with firearms in Canada.
8:00 I think he was probably unsure if he needed to draw or not, so he figured be ready, then wait and see. Good tactic, eliminates any mishaps that can result from try to fast draw.
We do not have qualified immunity like soldiers or LEOs so you better make your shots count and be accurate to hit vitals and stop the threat or you will be answering to a prosecutor and jury why you spent all those extra rounds. If you don't hit vitals you don't stop the threat no matter how many rounds you have. Capacity should never be used as an excuse for poor marksmanship.
When I first started to carry, I never had a round in the chamber. More training and practicing got me more confident in my ability to holster and draw efficiency. After a few months I started to carry with one in the chamber. Get you confidence up, be prepared with a round in the pipe!
@@sixate I served so have had plenty of training. Thank you for being smart....but, remember that all the training in the world doesn't stop accidents. Continue training and when you think you have done enough do it a million times more. Most accidents happen from complaisant people.
Do you also keep the hammer cocked? Or use double action to fire? The former seems a bit excessive to me outside of things like military combat. I don't really know though, maybe there are really good safeties or other factors? I'm just wondering what people consider to be best practice.
@@derkevevin Sam Colt designed his masterpiece 1911 to be carried with a round in the chamber, hammer fully cocked and safety on ("condition one"). Who am I to argue with the designer? The thumb disengages the safety as the weapon clears the holster (excellent ergonomic placement of said safety), then the shootin' finger goes inside the trigger guard, so by the time you're pointing, it's ready to go.
@@jd12420 DId you research this case? No one who runs up and punches someone in the face unprovoked is going to be given a pass. I guarantee you that store owner wasn't charged with aggrevated assault and I don't even need to look it up. I'm just not cynical enough to entertain such an emotional reframing of what is clearly a cut and dry case. Unless you can provide a citation of that court case. The vast majority of cases where similar outrage baiting ideological platitudes that conveniently omit crucial nuance that doesn't serve their "all the criminals are given medals for heroic deeds while the righteous patriots are sentenced to prison for flying an American flag and lovin Jesus"-narrative that I'm sure feels ideologically cathartic to repeat for a very distinct demographic. Id be willing to bet your "good guys are punished" claims are actually referring to conveniently distorted misrepresentations of unjustified shootings cases minus all of the mitigating nuances that make this a non-story and embellished with claims that the ones who were actually killed most likely out of punitive frustration were actually awarded medals for some unspecified explanation. Sometimes the victim of a crime shoots even when they had one or multiple opportunity to retreat indicating they weren't as fearful for their life as they were trying to claim. Or perhaps they shot and killed a fleeing thief simply to retrieve property or shooting someone who was running away who was no longer an imminent threat. In all of those scenarios, the criminals didn't "go free" as you put it, they paid with their life over a theft of property, or when they otherwise were not deemed an imminent threat to the shooter's life by the time they were gunned down. The victim went to prison for an unjustified shooting. Sometimes it's difficult to analyze the threat level when your adrenaline is going and you accidentally shoot therm as they are fleeing in which case they would actually have a better case to beat the charge if it was just a difference of a few seconds between imminent threat and their decision to flee Its usually illegal to use deadly force in a situation where you life wasn't in imminent danger even if it had been 60-seconds prior. That's plenty of time to realize the complexion of the altercation has shifted. That doesn't entitle someone to take a life out of frustration or to teach the attacker a lesson after the fact. Some times it might seems messed up if the person killed initiated the situation, but the bottom line is, you can't just take a life by chasing them down and executing them. It doesn't matter what they did or how many times you had felt in imminent danger prior to your decision to chase down a fleeing suspect. I'm pretty sure cops don't even get away with that any more.
That's why anyone who has some type of store in California should close it and leave, there is no reason to stay in a place where you can't defend yourself.
@@Jameskenomis3 believe it was Chesty Puller USMC said when told they were surrounded in Pacific Island campaign, outstanding, now we can fire in any direction. Pew pow Pew pow 🤬🎅🤠🙏
I 100 percent agree with this. I carry a revolver most of the time, so I don’t need to worry about a round in the chamber. But whenever I carry a semi auto, I always have one in the chamber.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju you must be living in call of duty land if you not only think that you will be fighting 10 people, but also win that fight. 😂🤡 But just in case that does happen, I have my ar with 2 spare mags as my truck gun. 👍
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju then don’t go to gang infested areas. I don’t care how much ammo you carry, you’re not winning that fight. I carry extra ammo all the time, but I actively try to avoid shit like that.
@jimc4267 So you're telling me, you seriously think your 6 rounds will work against several gang members, all with glocks that have extended mags. Ok guy.
To get comfortable with a round in the chamber, I followed what Colion Noir said, which is to do good practice with no round in the chamber for 6 months and then assess whether the trigger was ever pulled. Obviously with the right holster and the right handling of the Glock, I never saw the trigger get pulled. Then I accepted it was safe.
@@Adam_Wilde same for me. But it only took a couple of weeks for me. G17. Also be sure your holster completely covers your trigger. You can check this by trying to pull the trigger when you’ve clear3d it and it’s in your holster.
I understand a new gun owner / carrier might be hesitant in the beginning to carry one in the head , being new to firearms is intimidating, but after a few weeks, you will see, the trigger never gets pressed while in the holster, it has a drop saftey . When you are ignorant too the way the gun functions and and saftey rules, an accident will happen !
Never carry empty. You may only have one hand pull your gun out with. Do not handicap yourself. If you dont trust your firearm with one in the chamber.......you better find one you do trust. Or dont carry one at all.
I've heard this many times. An extension of this argument is that you shouldn't carry anything in your hands - especially your shooting hand. Thoughts?
Not a terrible idea to always be ready to draw. Practically, that's not always possibly boe, but learning to be a bit ambidextrous to keep your draw hand free might not be terrible practice.
@@iceman9678 You are correct. Walking out the corner store with my 12 pack. Its always carried in my left hand. Im right handed. And I do practice shooting with my left hand cause my right might be injured some how. You never know how things go down.
"Or dont carry one at all" pretty sure this is the dumbest advice, or direction, or instruction or whatever - that one could possibly offer. Right along with the word "never". Hopefully nobody reads your comment and thinks their situational variables & circumstances shouldn't be considered.
@@iceman9678This is a good point, and it’s why all of us who carry a firearm need to practice dropping what’s in your hands to draw your firearm. When I practice drawing and dry firing I put my phone in my hand and practice dropping it on the bed so I don’t damage it, but it’s training my brain that “if I ever need a gun I don’t need anything else in the world in that moment”.
I had coffee with a buddy, he was armed with a .45, I asked is one in the chamber, he said "no." I immediately said you would be dead if someone attacked you with a gun or knife. By the time he racked the slide he would already be taking bullets or stabs. Its a .45, has a thumb safety, has a grip safety, its in a holster, you have to pull the trigger to make it fire. WTH is the guy thinking?
From someone who frequently practices drawing from the holster I completely understand why the homie pulled out slowly. The only thing louder than the sound of a gun leaving a kydex holster in a situation like that is hearing “click” when you’re hoping to hear “bang.” That situation is also why I am a huge proponent of strong side open carry. Imagine the time it would take and conspicuousness of lifting your shirt and drawing with one hand from the appendix in that situation.
Concealed carry is the way to go in normal day to day. As for drawing you should be able to thumb the shirt out of the way in the process of drawing. General open carry makes one the general first target.
I carry appendix it’s faster I can draw while sitting it also doesn’t agitate my lower back like carrying strong side does. Despite being a smaller guy with an athletic build 5’5” 190 lbs I really don’t print I did carrying strong side though “squats down or bends over and stands up 50/50 the grip would be exposed”. I’m also carrying a full sized semi auto pistol 4.5” barrel and 18+1 with two spare magazines. Sometimes it’s uncomfortable at first but so are new boots.
Watch Garand Thumb's recent drop test on pistols. They don't go off unless you pull that trigger or own a 1911. Don't use a holster if it doesn't completely cover the trigger gaurd.
I am never sure about the empty chamber idea. If you 'think' you have time to chamber a round in an emergency, then you also probably have a flat spare tire, just enough food on hand for ONE more meal, and if a fire happens in your kitchen, THEN you will run out to get a fire extinguisher. Nope, not me, I carry with a LIVE pistol, I don't ass-u-me that I will have time to chamber a round while someone is assaulting me or others, or whatever other situation requires the use of a handgun.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084 Iv seen way more videos of people having an accidental discharge than videos where a person defending themselves successfully because there was one in the chamber.
@@milestonowheres Gee, could that be because when an emergency happens, typically no one is ALREADY recording? But on the fumbled gun stuff that are? And if proper gun etiquette is followed, finger off the trigger, don't point the muzzle kinds of stuff, then there are no accidents. Guns can't just go off on their own, anymore than cars drive themselves drunk.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084 how are more people ready to film with the accent more than emergencies? Mostly these are surveillance videos , dash cams etc . People reaching into their pockets for change or something catches the trigger. If you are around guns at all I’m sure you know a few buddies that accidentally shot their guns and less buddies that gave had to draw and shoot an attacker . The first video shows the defender not needing to shoot quickly . We don’t know if he was chambered. It might be what stopped him from shooting these kids . Respectfully the idea of “ to do or no to do “ is on each gun user I believe. I don’t think it’s something you can say it is 100% across the board is best for everyone.
@@milestonowheres I never said anything about 100%. This is an individual decision, I just don't understand an effectively unloaded pistol for self defense.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084 I don't understand everyone thinking they are a cop or else stupid enough to put themselves into a "one handed situation". Cops are literally the only ones who ever have to put themselves into dangerous situations. Everyone else has other options if "you are practicing good situational awareness". Which all gun owners should be practicing good situational awareness simply because they are introducing a firearm into every situation around them.
When I was in the streets.. I NEVER carried with one in the pipe.. I carried in my waistband (no holster) and growing up around a lot of criminals and gangsters back in the 70's, I have known more than a few people who blew off toes, shot themselves in the leg, or shot off one of their nuts accidentally. Once I gave up that lifestyle and became a LEGAL LAW ABIDING gun owner since the 80's.. I got licensed and started carrying with holsters, and started training the right way.. and I now believe in carrying with one in the chamber.. but still.. not all firearms are the same. There are some specific firearms that I would NOT carry with one in the chamber. If your firearm is not a "drop safe" firearm.. you probably should consider carrying something else too. Know what you carry.. and why you choose to carry it over another - some people prefer a micro or compact.. while others like myself prefer a large frame handgun.. some like pistols, some like revolvers, some like exposed hammers, some like striker fire, and some want a pistol with a de-cocker, and some go for high capacity, while others go for man stopping power.. we all have our preferences.. but your choices should always make sense! I still do NOT like to put all of my faith and trust in a SAFETY - mechanical devices can FAIL - and I have personally witnessed a safety fail on a firearm.. and on a crossbow.. so never ever stand in front of a loaded weapon of any kind and think that YOU are SAFE.. just because the weapon is on SAFE.
You shouldn't be carrying a gun loose... if you can afford a gun you can afford a holster. Time to draw and consistency of action are a thing you will not get with a loose carry. A revolver and a pistol are the same thing unless you mean a revolver rifle... it seems like youre mixing up bad habbits and good tactics as linked issues.
How do you feel about guns like the 226 which has a 'decocker'? I have one and have always felt kind of enh about that but I suppose drop safe tests have been done on them since there are millions of them out there.
@@jerrymayo2586 if sigs arent drop safe why the fk are the so expensive compared to other drop safe models? Sigs are pretty high end i cant image they arent drop safe but i dont carry them, dont like em personally.
@@justaguylaughing probably cuz they won the bid for military.. their price was the lowest, people think if it passed military specs its the best option, then they jack up the price... i dunno i get annoyed by sig and glock as the only options for pistols
Any State or municipality that bans, prevents, delays, or abridges a non-incarcerated, and free, United States Citizen from protecting themselves; in a manner that is adequate and equal in effectiveness to that which is current and present on Earth: Is in direct violation of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 14th Amendments, respectively. Any State or municipality that requires a free citizen give up their right to keep & bear arms, by transmuting such right into a privilege, by means of testing, permitting, and licensing, ignores the fundamental definitions of "Rights", "Freedoms" and "Liberty" that have remained unchanged for hundreds of years, and in parallel, violate all of the aforementioned amendments. It is important to note that the 5th Amendment applies specifically to free but *previously incarcerated citizens who have been stripped of their 2nd amendment right. **Proof:** **2nd Amendment:** "...the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." **Violation:** Prohibiting or limiting an individual's ability to possess arms violates this amendment. Any weapon that can be kept or carried qualifies. A Test, Quiz, Course, Permit, or License, if required, transmute the individual right into a state earned privilege; also violating this amendment **4th Amendment:** “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...." **Violation:** Seizing a firearm without suspicion that a crime has been, is about to be, or is being committed, and without confidence that the nature of this crime requires apprehension of a weapon, is unreasonable and illegal. The 2nd Amendment necessitates the right to bear arms, making such seizures unrelated or unreasonable; unnecessary. **5th Amendment:** "No person....nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." **Violation:** For a citizen who has been incarcerated and released, taking away their right to self-defense after serving their sentence violates the "Double Jeopardy" clause, as their punishment for their crime was the time served. **8th Amendment:** "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." **Violation:** Seizing a firearm simply for possession is cruel and unusual, leaving a person defenseless. It is inhumane to deny someone the right to defend themselves. A Test, Quiz, Course, Permit, or License, if required, transmute the individual right into a state earned privilege; and the concept that any free person in society earn the privilege to adequately defend themselves is cruel, and unusual to say the least. **9th Amendment:** "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." **Violation:** The right to defend ones self, in a manner that is adequate to succeed against the common dangers of a given time, and place, and within the borders of one's nation; is a common-sense human right that does not need to be explicitly stated in the Constitution to be protected. **10th Amendment:** "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution...are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." **Violation:** States nor other cannot challenge the federal Constitution's clear rights, including the right to bear arms, or any of the other amendments or law expressed in that document. **14th Amendment:** "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens...nor deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...." **Violation:** Even if the 2nd Amendment were considered a privilege rather than a right, the 14th Amendment prohibits any state from abridging (shortening or minimizing) any immunities (shall not be infringed) or privileges (the "rights" our governments have transmuted). It also prohibits depriving life or property (self-defense, owned or carried weapons) without due process. Given that the rights of citizens have been ignored in the instances of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments regarding weapons and self defense, it can be reasonably said that due process wasn't even attempted, if not the entire Constitution considered. Therefore, all State and Federal laws that abridge the right to bear arms in regards to a lack of due process violate the 14th Amendment (As was the case in the Bruen decision). **Other Considerations:** The 13th Amendment implies that those "unfree" are those actively incarcerated. The Supreme Court has ruled that "The People" refers to individual citizens. We the People, in order to form a more perfect Union, must provide for the common defense. Any Supreme Court rulings, state laws, federal rulings, or municipal rulings that have not considered the entire Constitution when making these laws violate due process, and therefore are unconstitutional. **Exceptions:** - Actively in prison - Actively in jail - Actively apprehended based on reasonable, articulable suspicion that a crime has, is, or is about to be committed by you alone. **Crime Statistics:** - There are approximately 16,000 murders annually in the United States. - Firearms are used for self-defense up to 2.5 million times per year. - Defensive gun use (DGU) occurs in about 70,040 instances per year, including both violent and property crimes. - States with higher rates of gun ownership tend to have lower rates of violent crime. In Thomas Jeffersons letter to Peter Car In 1785, quote "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun." Although, many people carried swords, and knives, as guns were expensive. The Thompson (Sub)Machine gun, invented in 1918 (After WW1 and after the 1903 Militia Act) was avaliable to purchase by the general public all the way until 1934 under the unconstitutional NFA act, signed into law by 3 term president FDR, in his first term. Many machine guns other than this had already existed in civilian hands for years, including the Maxim Gun which was almost 20 years old by then, and could be legally owned by US citizens. This also applied to silencers, which apparently could be shipped through the USPS at $5 USD 1928 ($91.97 circa 2024) At the time of the founding, "Arms" generally included body armor (like that of a soldiers helmet, to deflect Muskets, or chest plates) and before the New World was discovered, "Arms" usually referred to any item related to fighting, whether that be a shield or ammunition, as may be necessary in self defense. Supreme Court Support: Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016) ☆The U.S. Supreme Court vacated Jaime Caetano's conviction in regards to owning a stun gun, ruling that the Second Amendment protects the right to own more than just firearms☆ People v. Aguilar (2013) ☆The Illinois Supreme Court found the state's Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Weapon statute unconstitutional under the Second Amendment☆ McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010) ☆The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment applies to state and local governments, striking down Chicago's handgun ban☆ District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) ☆The U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess firearms for self-defense within the home, and is an individual right of each, free citizen☆ New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen (2022) ☆The U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home. The Court struck down New York's "proper cause" requirement for obtaining a concealed carry license, ruling it unconstitutional as it prevented law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms☆ In regards to the security of We People in the face of such prevalent weapon ownership: One might feel exposed if a journalist peers into their buisness or home from a public way; and they merely must shut their blinds as the onus is on them to do so. And in the same manner: One might feel un-prepared, under-equipped, and overwhelmed in a downtown where all citizens have rifles; And they merely match the situation via the same or greater means, by obtaining, bearing, carrying, keeping, and presumably training with arms the same or more powerful, efficient, and capable for the situation at hand. We must do all we can to ensure our right to defend ourselves no matter our ideas or opinions, type, or past, as without this, we may not defend our speech, or property, or our freedom.
According to Darwin's original theory, they are the missing link. The reason the link is missing is obvious. No one would accept it in today's world if they came out and said that blacks are the link between apes and man. The Nazis believed that.
My carry rotation includes a DA/SA with a decocker, 1911-style pistols, and the deep-conceal pistols are striker-fired with external safeties. I've carried 1911-style pistols for so long that disengaging the external safety is not only part of the draw but where my thumb stays during shooting, and it helps me to not accidentally engage the slide stop. I practice under both dry fire conditions and on the range, and haven't missed disengaging the external safety yet on any of my pistols.
Not really - we practised drawing the gun and shooting on a target right from our hips - round in chamber vs empty chamber and times were almost identical - the difference was something like 0.15s if I remember correctly. The only noticeable difference was when we simulated being shot in one hand. Drawing and racking the slide one-handed took more time - but still not that bad - half a second max (although racking a slide one-handed isn't reliable).
@@martin5561 under ideal range conditions …. Go look at Active Self Protections info on the subject …..or ask any force on force instructor ….. it fails far more often than not in active situations ….
Agreed. Round in chamber should be the default/norm for defensive carry, outside of home base. Some exceptions include: Anyone new to carrying, ok to start with empty chamber, during the first/initial period, so as to have chance to get used to the other aspects of actually carrying in public. But try to transition to chambered soon as comfortable to do so. When carrying at home or on someone's private/personal property. When children are around who might get very near or if you actually need to handling/playing with/taking care of children.
Won’t catch me lacking.🤷♂️ You can’t make not having one in the pipe make sense to me. My sister who knows nothing about firearms asked me the other day “why do you carry a loaded gun?” 😂🤷♂️ I told her because an unloaded one doesn’t go bang ❗️
I'm a newer owner, not new to firearms or firearm culture, and I've always thought that the best and safest way to carry was cocked and locked, which is what I've been practicing since I bought my desantis holster and started EDC
It took me a year after getting my ccw to feel comfortable carrying with one in the pipe once I learned about the internal safety’s I felt way more comfortable and confident
No, I don’t believe in external safeties. I carry only Glocks. there’s a safety inside the trigger in case it’s dropped, my holster covers the trigger, and the other safety is between my ears. I don’t want to be dicking around with an external safety when I need to draw and shoot in much less than 1.5 seconds.
because some people understand that unintended discharge only happens on a loaded chamber and never on an empty one. And have weighed their percentages of an attack, vs. an ND. If being chambered were w/o risk, then it's no brainer and not a question. But being chambered means some (with kids, especially) need to consider storage vs. staging and possibly creating far more danger & risk than that .75 seconds it takes to rack the slide.
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leaving aside ALL of the valid points about trigger guard, finger discipline, holster quality etc...I carry appendix and I'm just not comfortable having my barrel pointed at my femoral or my junk most of the time as it sits in the holster. That's why I carry without one in the chamber. On top of that, when I loosen my belt and zipper to take a leak, the pants flap+belt+noise maker folds down like a triangle leaving the barrel pointed almost directly at my face. I try to catch it before it naturally moves in that direction but sometimes it still happens. Again, I feel better knowing there is NOT one in the chamber in that instance.
I am too old to fight, and too fat to run, so I carry a firearm to give myself an advantage in a fight. Why on earth would I then put myself at a DIS-advantage by carrying with an empty chamber?
My brother doesn't think it wise to carry with one in the chamber, even though I have tried to talk him into it via different scenarios, real and hypothetical. He also carries a Beretta 92 (I may have the model wrong) with a manual safety. That's two extra steps to get his weapon in the fight, racking a slide and disengaging the safety. Two extra steps that have a high chance of leaving you a sitting duck when the adrenaline hits. I carry a Glock 19. I also carry more often than he does since I'm licensed and he isn't. If you carry a gun, have it chambered, because the less time you have to spend getting ready is more time you can spend in the fight. Be safe folks!!
I’ve always like your channel but lately your content has been awesome. These real world situations really help to make people aware of what can happen and how to prepare. Keep up the good work God Bless
Not everything that comes to firearm is black and white. There are pros and cons when it comes to carrying with a round in the chamber. I have trained with individuals that "israeli carry" and are capable of placing the first shot on an "A" zone at 7 yards in 1.3 seconds drawing from concealment. I have trained with people that cannot accomplish the same drawing time from an OWB holster and one in the chamber. Since the vast majority of gun owners do not train, this conversation is pointless anyway. For those that are highly trained, the difference is maybe 0.3-0.4 seconds. In my mind the safety concern about carrying with one in the chamber has nothing to do with EDC but rather with training. If you train like you carry (and you should), a good training session will involve dozens of repetitions drawing and re-holstering the firearm. This will create multiple opportunities for a negligent discharge as you are pushing the envelope to gain speed and accuracy (as you should). A gun owner should be capable to perform a risk assessment to determine if gaining 0.3 second on a draw is more likely to save his/her life versus a self inflicted discharge. The assessment should take into account the environment, level of proficiency, commitment to training, etc. Watching a video of a pre-selected event and someone else's opinion is definitely not the best way to go about this decision.
The bad guy will determine how the interaction begins. You are assuming he will choose to begin the situation in a way that best suits your preconceived idea how the situation will develop ( i.e. you will have space and time to draw and rack the slide). There are so many different scenarios that would guarantee you don’t have space or time and also that your off hand is free and not grappling with the bad guy.
@@iceman9678 I do get it and I can do math too! Who has more capacity, 20+0 or 10+1? 😂🤣😂 Your "+1" argument is very weak in relation to the size of the magazine.
For me, definitely one in the chamber. With a Beretta 92 it’s got a safety which can be switched off on the draw. For my Glocks they have trigger guard switches,just have to be pressed in to draw. Good to spend money on a holster. Thx
not comfortable ? go double action/single or single action only with safety .. problem solved no reason get bullied into just buying a striker fired pistol there are so many options...
One can even question if you need the safety, depending on the design of the firearm, and whether there is a firing pin block, and the trigger is 4+ lbs in single action. A P938 is SAO, in its cocked position its really no different than a striker fired P320... and a P320 can have a lighter trigger pull than the P938. While yhe P938 is often referred to a mini 1911, it has a firing pin block where most 1911s don't.
They would have kept hitting him. The moment he fought back, they would jump him. The moment he went down, they would kill him. That's what that crowd was there for. To follow the leader. That's what crowds do
I have many new polymers that have no safety as the holster is the safety, however I’m a long-time 1911 driver, so my thumb just instinctively “works the safety” when there is none, so yeah, I carry 100% “cocked-n-locked” as to do otherwise is pointless and defies the logic of personal defense all together
It used to be illegal in California to move around in a group of more than 5 people. They called it the mob law. Where are the cops? They shouldn't be allowing this mob to form especially in an adult area such as liquor stores and such
I hate to be the one to rain on everyone's parade, but unless you are practicing your draw, which the vast majority don't, one in the chamber won't matter. You either have a split second to get your gun or you have that feeling a few moments before the need arises. In my experience the people who don't want to carry hot are people who are aware of their own lack of training and would rather not take the chance of shooting themselves or they don't trust the gun they have. The best way to defend yourself will always be your ability to walk away from a bad situation. Protect lives, not ego.
Sad part about most people with firearms is that they just buy the firearm but they never practice with it. They think just having it is enough to protect them but in reality it makes them more vulnerable and dangerous situation if somebody takes that gun from you and you don’t know how to use it you just put everybody else around you in harm. Learn to protect yourself the correct way Don’t think by having a weapon. It’s going to do the work for you.
He drew his weapon indiscriminately? I believe the word you're looking for is, discretely. With that said, the debate is not over. The debate will never be over. Personally, I keep one in the chamber, decocked, and I believe that's the only rational way to go. I understand the hesitation to keep one in the chamber when carrying a striker fired weapon with no safety, but if you're bothered by that, then you're carrying the wrong firearm. Get something that's DA/SA with a decocker, and the problem is solved.
That is where I draw the line as well. I'm not sure how we became comfortable carrying the equivalent of a 1911, cocked, chambered and often with no manual safety at all. It is no wonder people are shooting themselves and bystanders. Ultimately, I carry a DA/SA with a round chambered. Sometimes, I carry a SA striker pistol UN-chambered. I am slightly less ready for action in the second mode, but hardly unarmed as some would suggest. Do your own thinking and make your own decision. If it goes bad, none of the internet "high speed operators" are going to be around to take the blame. They will take a dump on you and throw you under the bus, saying that "Your trigger discipline must have been less than perfect". In the first video, chambered or un-chambered was completely irrelevant as merely presenting the gun ended the threat as often happens.
@@Sherman62and in your last statement, what if it doesn't. What if, you pull unchambered, and wave it around, and instead of scaring the 💩 away, one of them pulls and let's you have one? So much for your "it scares them away."
Exactly. All the nonsense that says otherwise is like meeting a tiger in the jungle and saying "Not all tigers!" 😂 The only difference is that tigers are still beautiful creatures in their natural environment, unlike you know... 😄
Retired LEO, always carry with 1 in the pipe. Buy Quality JHP rounds so you don’t over penetrate. When you’re being attacked that’s not the time to get a rack failure to feed from junk ammo.
Carry 80% waist locked in chamber. Muzzle is pointing down and in control through the draw. Other 20% carry on Motorcycle in chest holster and muzzle points back under arm in cross draw configuration. Muzzle is pointing behind me and not under direct control until removed from holster. Empty chamber in this situation because of muzzle orientation in holster. But really there is no wrong way for you. Just carrying is the biggest advantage. Negligent discharges happen all the time. Only you can decide what you are comfortable with doing.
Too many tough guy dude bros in here.... Yes if I'm in the city or in the woods, I'm chambered, but if I'm in my rural safe town, unchambered. No matter what these guys say, chambered is a higher risk than unchambered, that risk is only worth it if I'm in a riskier situation or area.
Craft holsters makes a shoulder rig with barrel in vertical orientation. then after unsnapping it allows a swivelling to let you draw your weapon out in a more horizontal manner. Check them out!
@@rayhynson8223 I have and the problem is when in a seated position the muzzle end pokes out and exposes the carry. Maybe with a 3in barrel but I carry a Commander 4.24in. In Florida you can get in trouble for exposing your carry. Compromise is the current configuration. Back seater is carrying locked and loaded. I would rather die than be responsible for accidentally shooting my wife or an innocent person in a vehicle behind me. Not every situation is equal and I have been carrying for 3 decades +. If I shoot myself that’s a thing I am willing to do.
I agree with you 100% !! I carry a double/single pistol that allows me to carry with one in the chamber, de-cocked and the safety off with that first shot heavy trigger pull acting as a secondary safety yet not needing to rack the slide for that first shot !! Carry on brother !! I carry IWB...
yes. The people that say "always" & "never" & other absolutes as if every person has exact same risks, circumstances & other variables. Mom taking the kids to swim class is totally identical to a security guard at a precious metals warehouse. Totally identical. Always.
@@ShastaBean it breaks my heart to see all the chaff you've gotten from your reasonable views. I carried an M9 in condition 1 for a decade on duty, and carry personally on the regular. I carry condition 3 because of 2 things. I've seen 3 NDs in my life all from competent, trained men I've trusted with my life with their weapons. They can and do happen. The second reason is because I have seen how rapid situations can develop. Unexpected combat takes about half a second to register from the more vigilant deployed service members on mission. Walking through a fair with my children isn't anything like being back there, keyed up. For me, I understand that sometimes the best hand I can play won't be good enough, I've lived long enough to have seen that lesson in practice. I've had my personal carry leave the holster inadvertently at the john 10 times more often than I've ever cleared leather with intent. On the other side of the coin, my best friend has carried condition 1 for 25 years, daily, with no incident. He doesn't have any kids and his civilian work deals with more high risks.
Im a lady who rarely gets to practice. I dont carry because of my job. I would love to purchase the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 but afraid of the 2-3lb trigger pull. My all time fav gun is the Kel-tec P32 which is the smallest, thinnest, lightest gun that holds 7+1 or 10+1 with ext magazine. It has a heavy double action trigger pull. It is reliable w/fmj ammo. I own 2 of these, and would buy another, but they are hard to find now😢.
When I first started carrying I carried with an empty chamber. I wasnt afraid to carrying with a chambered round, my concern was when I got home. My daughter and 5 year old grandson were living with us. My concern was that I would come home and maybe go to the bathroom and take the gun and holster off. My concern was that I might forget that I left the gun on the counter and my grandson might get to it. I felt that the risk to me of carrying with an empty chamber was worth it to be sure that I didnt cause a problem with my grandson. Now during that time I did practice drawing and racking in one motion. Once I was positive that I had a rock solid routine of securing my gun as soon as I walked into the house I switched to a loaded chamber carry.
I'm in a conceal only carry state, always 1 in the chamber safety off, all day every day! Although I was taught and trained that way from the start. Hit the range every 2 weeks drawing from the hip! Tulster Contour Holster OWB.
Excellent excellent video! I agree the guy at the door was being discreet about drawing his firearm. A smart move in my opinion. I have several different firearms, Single action/DAO, etc. Bottom line is you must be intimately familiar with all of them whether you’re going to carry with a round in the chamber or not. My home defense weapon is a pump action Mossberg. I purposely don’t have around in the chamber because I want an intruder to hear me rack the slide as a deterrent. All of my other weapons I carry safety off hammer down except the DAO of course. Get familiar with your weapons people and PRACTICE! Anyway, I’m now subscribed because I love this content! 👍🏻😁👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It is a personal choice. Obviously only showing videos requiring a quick draw presents one side. All the accidental discharges would present a different side.
There is no such thing as a “accidental discharge“. It’s called a “ND”, which stands for NEGLIGENT discharge”. You did something wrong by not following the four simple principal rules of gun safety. You quite possibly maybe had break two of those rules to cause any harm.
Since I began to carrying, I pocket carry or apendex carry with a holster, always ready with the chamber hot. Spare magazines for both too. Keeping them prepared for use by cleaning and inspecting them at home on a normal frequency. Shoot those rounds while training. Lint is a 🤬...😊
Mike Glover of field craft survival.. dorsnt always carry with one in the chamber? I believe it depends on the environment. The argument for not having one in the chamber revolves around the presence of children.. I have a 5 year old boy.. he is a wild monkey that climbs all over us all the time.. If im at my nieces bday party, not going to set the gun down somewhere obviously.. So in this situation. Not having it hot might be best option.. If im in a shady situation or neighborhood then have 1 in the chamber.. Most ccw holders run a higher risk percentage wise of accidental discharge by them or a child then they do of ever having to shoot someone.. Just some other viewpoints for the debate
@@redpill7088I carry a Sig 320 with a chambered round never had one go off on me. But I guess in our society when a "trained" officer throws an unholstered pistol in their gym bag they should get money for stupidity.
The question I like to ask someone who is against carrying one in the pipe is “do you have enough time to put on your seatbelt before you get into a car accident? Or is it better to have it on just in case you don’t see it coming?” These encounters are violent and fast everything you can do to have time on your side is the best move for self defense.
In your second clip, it was a home invasion. The perp was permanently put to sleep. It was ruled justifiable use of force. The slow draw was crucial as the assailant was ready for a quick response. This save this mans life!
Depends on training and situation. There's no one size fits all. There is a training regiment that involves chambering a round as a part of the draw. It's not perfect but with training it can be effective. There are advantages and disadvantages to most techniques, tactics, and procedures. Your head will keep you out of trouble most of the time. The scenario can be really bad for the bad guy when the armed good guy is in fear of their life and has no where to retreat to.
very much situational & nuanced. This "ends the debate" claim, and then shows a guy that probably should not be carrying chambered, based on what was seen - who never fires (means plenty of time to chamber) and never actually needed that extra .75 seconds....but did manage to point his chambered gun at several people that he was simply trying to intimidate by that time and no longer imminent threat of death or great bodily harm...with his finger on the trigger, of course.
@@GloryOnHigh you mean the video with the guy that never had to fire? That's what we're using as an example of "ending the debate" about carrying chambered? That clown was a prime example of someone who should not carry chambered. Waving it at people with his finger on the trigger. .75 seconds to rack a slide is the difference between having a 0% chance of ND vs all of the considerations of carrying, handling, and storing/staging that come along with it. All NDs involved a round in the chamber. All of them. None of them were on an empty chamber
I totally misread the title and thought this video was about keeping your weapon on safe…I reckon if you think one shouldn’t bi chambered, you’ve never been in a gun fight Also, and this is a fun bonus…make sure all of your magazines fit and lock easily..as well as drop smoothly when time to reload..trust me
It will also be our world if Donald Trump is elected, or even if Chase Oliver or Jill Stein get elected. It's the United States of America, it's not suddenly going to lose all crime overnight.
Q: Why do you need a semiautomatic weapon with a high-capacity magazine?
A: The modern savages enjoying attacking in packs.
Bravo!
Yup. I see a lot more than 10+1 people assaulting that store owner.
Who knew a force multiplier would peacefully solve the problem immediately
@@zbudda apparently you did, as did the rest of us. If multiplication of force failed, subtraction of assailants most definitely would have. Simple math, yes? 😉
Just call it standard capacity,
'Just kids on bikes' - No, you're an angry mob assaulting a shop keeper. FAFO.
Like jan 6th?
Mostly Peaceful Criminal's according to the Left.
@@Theonetruegod-hw2eiF all the way off. 🤡
Remember it's not their fault because they are oppressed. According to them it's everyone fault but theirs.
@@Theonetruegod-hw2ei Compare Jan 6th to the summer of love 2020 when BLM and Antifa were burning down Cities !! This requires an open mind, the ability to think independently and remain unbiased !!
Carrying without one in the chamber gives the bad guy an advantage they should never have.
@@alhorn2664 @5:23 you can see the grip of the guys pistol in his pocket, along with always carrying with one in the chamber people should be very aware of their surroundings and the details within said surroundings. (Edit) didn't know he was the victim.
Try racking a slide under serious stress and being rushed, even if you are really good with your gun you will still short stroke it, or somehow won’t chamber a round at least 1 out of 5 tries. That’s a 20% failure rate. Would you carry a gun that malfunctioned 20% of the time. People not well trained the rate drops to chambering a round less than half the time.
I agree, it's like driving your car with no gas in it.
Hell I met a guy that carries a 1911 with a round in the chamber………but with the freaking hammer down!
@@charlesprice7608 you should carry with one on the chamber, however if you can’t perform every function of your gun smoothly you shouldn’t be carrying it at all
not having a round in the chamber is like trying to put your seatbelt on during an accident
Someone on another video said exactly that same thing.
Hah, that's a perfect analogy I'm using that.
That's a great way of putting it.
Well said.
I actually have talked to a few guys that really think they could put their seatbelt on DURING an accident. They also don’t chamber a round when carrying. I wish I was kidding
16-17 y/o boys are not kids. I joined the Army at 17 so I was capable of being a deadly force
The youngest Vietnam vet was Dan Bullock, falsified his birth certificate at 14 years old, was killed in action at 15. My friend "Red" also falsified his birth certificate to get into the fighting at 17, so when I was 17 goofing off in study hall he was in a fox hole fighting for his life being over run by the NVA. I guess it really isn't the age but probably how fast you have to grow up. Regards, Denis Berte' USMC (Nam 70-71).
@@denisberte778 Welcome home, thank you for your service.
Fighting age males are any one from 12 to 65.
@@stevent5571 exactly why the drinking age should be dropped to 18 like in Australia
@@stevent5571 ty for your service..but you're still a kid at 17-18-19-even 20...which is why you'll only go to juvy and can't buy a beer
I used to carry without one in the chamber until ine of my work associates, who isn't a upstanding part of society, he's a convicted felon and has been to prison many times, told me that I wasn't fast enough to carry the way I was carrying. He laughed at me and said boy, you better carry that thing hot or somebody gonna send you back home. I took that to heart.
Probably shouldn’t have let that one know you have a gun…since we are discussing tactics. That doesn’t make him wrong though. 😅
@@pauliexcluded1 he's good because he likes me. I've seen what he's capable of if someone crosses him the wrong way, the reason he has been in prison. He's going through some therapy now so maybe it will help. He's 6'3 and weighs 210 and mostly muscle so I do my best not to get him riled up..lol
@@Brett235 there are good people with bad pasts. Sometimes they are the best people.
@BRETT235
Afraid get him riled up?
Already screwed pooch twice by your comments
Never ever trust some silver tongued stranger
@@SIERRA-dx9wm what's that mean? I speak English.
A mop of people attacking you is a deadly threat
Chimpanzees are troupe or mob? Whichever, equivalent or greater force to stop deadly attacks frequent enough and the attacks will stop 🤬🎅🤠🙏
*mob
Rittenhouse already taught us this lesson very well. He showed that legally this is true, and that if you do things right and are justified then even defending yourself against a whole crowd is legally acceptable.
What about a broom?….
@@thekamotodragonWrong, as everything he did in that situation was illegal. He was across state lines with a weapon he legally could not possess and was “defending” property that isn’t his nor did he have any connection to. He also, as you people seem to love to forget…. ANTAGONIZED the people. He also realistically wasn’t rushed by a “mob” it was the guy he killed and a few people who were near, but no one else actually attempted to touch him until after he aimed the gun. So the entire thing was his fault, and he got off simply due to incompetence and legal bias. So maybe try a different argument
People need to stop thinking that they need to fire the weapon to practice. There is lots of practice that needs to be done on the mechanics of your pistol draw. Empty your weapon. Practice drawing your pistol. Over and over again. Hours of practice. Watch for mistakes and areas where you can improve.
Exactly! And especially those guys who cry about their striker fired handgun not producing 1" groups at 25 yards. That is NOT their purpose.
Agreed !!!!! They had some dummy laser rounds you could buy for indoor draw and fire practice. But for some strange reason the Gov. outlawed them. 🤔🤔
@WeedMan-u6n You misquoted him and took it out of context. He is saying that people need to stop thinking that live fire training is the only way to practice.
So, you're saying he's wrong but then saying the exact same thing he said, just wording it differently because you failed to understand what he actually said, which wasn't to stop live practicing but to stop thinking it's the only way.
I dry fire, mag swap, etc. while sitting in my lazboy chair in my living room with my pistol and my rifle.
Learn reading comprehension and perhaps, just a thought, stop smoking weed.
@@James_Bee
HEY HEY HEY NOW !!!!!!
Don’t blame it on the weed. It’s the weekend been smoking all day. And I completely understood what he was saying. That crutch won’t hold weight . 🤣
@marcustalley7987 you think people should shoot less?
It doesn't really matter how smooth your draw is if you can't hit the broadside of a barn door.
People need to KEEP thinking that they need to fire their gun to practice.
Saying that they don't is like saying you don't actually need to drive the car to practice driving you can just sit in your driveway and start it and put it in gear but you don't need to actually DRIVE
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His 1st mistake was going outside & allowing multiple blind spots & a mob to surround him.
He should have locked the doors, if possible, after they cleared the store.
Situational Awareness
Back to a wall if possible.
Glass door? Yup! Mob mentality? Certainly. Door won't hold back mob.
There goes your THEORY.
Yeah he put himself in a bad situation, I wonder if his decision to go outside towards the danger would have been held against him legally had he fired a round and killed someone? I've survived a long time without finding myself caught up in a rapidly deteriorating situation like that because nothing is important enough to go arguing back and forth with a hostile crowd on the verge of violence. That probably would have been considered had this played out differently.
@@jellyrollthunder3625 it very well could end up catching him an aggravated-assault charge, or two, or three...w/o having fired it.
He goes all the way out into the street, into the middle of the group, waving it around and pointing at people with finger on trigger.
Then says really dumb stuff to the press.
Prosecutor knows political winds, and might not charge him. But very well could. And arguably, should.
@@ShastaBean Looked like he pulled it out AFTER the attack began. I'm sure he won't have too much trouble arguing that he felt like his life was in imminent danger at that specific moment. I think that is the main consideration by the prosecutor. That is usually the make or break factor of any questionable deadly force self-defense case
John Wayne: "You can't fix stupid, stupid is forever."
@@artgordon7290 i love john wayne gacy
I had a dream years ago and in the dream, I was in the situation where there was two guys in the room with me.
BOTH (2) bad guys
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THE one sitting on my left, already with his gun in his hand, intimidating me
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I'm carrying, THEY don't know yet
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BUT I don't dare move, or draw, because I didn't have a round in the chamber.
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IMAGINE THAT, a dream caused me to be vigilant to carry a round in the chamber.
I’ve had similar dreams and yes those dreams taught me the same lesson 😂 it just makes sense to carry w one in chamber.
I live in Canada and a week after my house got broke into I had a dream where someone broke into my house and the only thing I had was a break action double barrel. It either malfunctioned or I didn't have it loaded because as soon as I pulled the trigger I was ripped out of my dream without a boom going off. The dream is even more funny because we can't defend ourselves with firearms in Canada.
@@shaetteb1272oof 😅 that is depressing
8:00 I think he was probably unsure if he needed to draw or not, so he figured be ready, then wait and see. Good tactic, eliminates any mishaps that can result from try to fast draw.
Came here to say basically the same thing. In my eyes the "slow" draw was him thinking do I really need to use this
This is where the “nobody needs more than 10 rounds” argument dies
That dude clearly needed more than 17 rounds per mag, 3 mags minimum
Home invasions usually involve 2 to 5 perps. Never one.
We do not have qualified immunity like soldiers or LEOs so you better make your shots count and be accurate to hit vitals and stop the threat or you will be answering to a prosecutor and jury why you spent all those extra rounds. If you don't hit vitals you don't stop the threat no matter how many rounds you have. Capacity should never be used as an excuse for poor marksmanship.
Home invooodar zims are usually two to five man groups.
@@rbm6184 Gotta protect those future engineers, careers.
Even if you are cleared criminally, you will be sued by the family
Carrying empty is like saying you'll have time to put your seat belt on right before a car accident. I personally don't like to gamble with my life.
When I first started to carry, I never had a round in the chamber. More training and practicing got me more confident in my ability to holster and draw efficiency. After a few months I started to carry with one in the chamber. Get you confidence up, be prepared with a round in the pipe!
Do you carry appendix?
Occasionally, but mostly on my hip, about 4 o'clock. My favorite holster is a Crossbreed Supertuck for that.
@@sixate I served so have had plenty of training. Thank you for being smart....but, remember that all the training in the world doesn't stop accidents. Continue training and when you think you have done enough do it a million times more. Most accidents happen from complaisant people.
Do you also keep the hammer cocked? Or use double action to fire? The former seems a bit excessive to me outside of things like military combat.
I don't really know though, maybe there are really good safeties or other factors? I'm just wondering what people consider to be best practice.
@@derkevevin Sam Colt designed his masterpiece 1911 to be carried with a round in the chamber, hammer fully cocked and safety on ("condition one"). Who am I to argue with the designer? The thumb disengages the safety as the weapon clears the holster (excellent ergonomic placement of said safety), then the shootin' finger goes inside the trigger guard, so by the time you're pointing, it's ready to go.
Meanwhile the store owner gets 15 years for aggravated assault and the kids all get a Medal. .
@@jd12420 usually yes. However with all the video footage, the store clerk (unsure if worker owner) would be clearly in self defense
@@travisdillon1264 nope were in America only criminals go free. Law abiding citizens go 2 jail.
@@jd12420false
Especially in SF/Oakland where this assault took place.
@@jd12420 DId you research this case? No one who runs up and punches someone in the face unprovoked is going to be given a pass. I guarantee you that store owner wasn't charged with aggrevated assault and I don't even need to look it up. I'm just not cynical enough to entertain such an emotional reframing of what is clearly a cut and dry case. Unless you can provide a citation of that court case. The vast majority of cases where similar outrage baiting ideological platitudes that conveniently omit crucial nuance that doesn't serve their "all the criminals are given medals for heroic deeds while the righteous patriots are sentenced to prison for flying an American flag and lovin Jesus"-narrative that I'm sure feels ideologically cathartic to repeat for a very distinct demographic. Id be willing to bet your "good guys are punished" claims are actually referring to conveniently distorted misrepresentations of unjustified shootings cases minus all of the mitigating nuances that make this a non-story and embellished with claims that the ones who were actually killed most likely out of punitive frustration were actually awarded medals for some unspecified explanation. Sometimes the victim of a crime shoots even when they had one or multiple opportunity to retreat indicating they weren't as fearful for their life as they were trying to claim. Or perhaps they shot and killed a fleeing thief simply to retrieve property or shooting someone who was running away who was no longer an imminent threat. In all of those scenarios, the criminals didn't "go free" as you put it, they paid with their life over a theft of property, or when they otherwise were not deemed an imminent threat to the shooter's life by the time they were gunned down. The victim went to prison for an unjustified shooting. Sometimes it's difficult to analyze the threat level when your adrenaline is going and you accidentally shoot therm as they are fleeing in which case they would actually have a better case to beat the charge if it was just a difference of a few seconds between imminent threat and their decision to flee
Its usually illegal to use deadly force in a situation where you life wasn't in imminent danger even if it had been 60-seconds prior. That's plenty of time to realize the complexion of the altercation has shifted. That doesn't entitle someone to take a life out of frustration or to teach the attacker a lesson after the fact. Some times it might seems messed up if the person killed initiated the situation, but the bottom line is, you can't just take a life by chasing them down and executing them. It doesn't matter what they did or how many times you had felt in imminent danger prior to your decision to chase down a fleeing suspect. I'm pretty sure cops don't even get away with that any more.
Oakland power trippers came out and said the liquor store owner had no right to pull his equalizer, and last I heard, charges are pending.
That's why anyone who has some type of store in California should close it and leave, there is no reason to stay in a place where you can't defend yourself.
They voted for it most likely
California, that says it all.
@@dannyb9140 that all I needed to know for context
Commiefornia smh..
Like chimpanzees attacking all at once.
Baboons!!
Hyenas…all these metaphors are applicable.
Bonobos
@@Jameskenomis3 believe it was Chesty Puller USMC said when told they were surrounded in Pacific Island campaign, outstanding, now we can fire in any direction. Pew pow Pew pow 🤬🎅🤠🙏
Planet of the apes is a documentary now..
Carrying without one in the chamber is like not wearing your seatbelt and saying you’ll have enough time to put it on before an accident.
Awesome content, thanks for saying it! Get comfortable with your firearms, be aware of your surroundings!
Thanks man
I 100 percent agree with this. I carry a revolver most of the time, so I don’t need to worry about a round in the chamber. But whenever I carry a semi auto, I always have one in the chamber.
@@jimc4267 enjoy your 6 rounds against 10 people.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju you must be living in call of duty land if you not only think that you will be fighting 10 people, but also win that fight. 😂🤡 But just in case that does happen, I have my ar with 2 spare mags as my truck gun. 👍
@@jimc4267 It's called gangs. And also the usual suspects rarely attack solo.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju then don’t go to gang infested areas. I don’t care how much ammo you carry, you’re not winning that fight. I carry extra ammo all the time, but I actively try to avoid shit like that.
@jimc4267 So you're telling me, you seriously think your 6 rounds will work against several gang members, all with glocks that have extended mags. Ok guy.
To get comfortable with a round in the chamber, I followed what Colion Noir said, which is to do good practice with no round in the chamber for 6 months and then assess whether the trigger was ever pulled. Obviously with the right holster and the right handling of the Glock, I never saw the trigger get pulled. Then I accepted it was safe.
@@Adam_Wilde same for me. But it only took a couple of weeks for me. G17. Also be sure your holster completely covers your trigger. You can check this by trying to pull the trigger when you’ve clear3d it and it’s in your holster.
@@clwomble A proper holster is key. Some people don't like them, but I got the T.Rex Arms kydex holster and it is adequate for the task.
I understand a new gun owner / carrier might be hesitant in the beginning to carry one in the head , being new to firearms is intimidating, but after a few weeks, you will see, the trigger never gets pressed while in the holster, it has a drop saftey . When you are ignorant too the way the gun functions and and saftey rules, an accident will happen !
Never carry empty. You may only have one hand pull your gun out with. Do not handicap yourself.
If you dont trust your firearm with one in the chamber.......you better find one you do trust. Or dont carry one at all.
I've heard this many times. An extension of this argument is that you shouldn't carry anything in your hands - especially your shooting hand. Thoughts?
Not a terrible idea to always be ready to draw. Practically, that's not always possibly boe, but learning to be a bit ambidextrous to keep your draw hand free might not be terrible practice.
@@iceman9678 You are correct. Walking out the corner store with my 12 pack. Its always carried in my left hand. Im right handed. And I do practice shooting with my left hand cause my right might be injured some how. You never know how things go down.
"Or dont carry one at all"
pretty sure this is the dumbest advice, or direction, or instruction or whatever - that one could possibly offer.
Right along with the word "never".
Hopefully nobody reads your comment and thinks their situational variables & circumstances shouldn't be considered.
@@iceman9678This is a good point, and it’s why all of us who carry a firearm need to practice dropping what’s in your hands to draw your firearm.
When I practice drawing and dry firing I put my phone in my hand and practice dropping it on the bed so I don’t damage it, but it’s training my brain that “if I ever need a gun I don’t need anything else in the world in that moment”.
I had coffee with a buddy, he was armed with a .45, I asked is one in the chamber, he said "no." I immediately said you would be dead if someone attacked you with a gun or knife. By the time he racked the slide he would already be taking bullets or stabs. Its a .45, has a thumb safety, has a grip safety, its in a holster, you have to pull the trigger to make it fire. WTH is the guy thinking?
It's like they are embarrassed to be able to defend everyone in his area. Take responsibility, be prepared to do what must be done.
The 1911 was not designed to be cocked and locked 100% of the time, on base pistols are not chambered.
@@thomasward00 you do you, but my 1911 always is cocked and locked.
@@thomasward00 That's completely irrelevant, a 1911 should be cocked and locked.
My brother is the same way with his Beretta 92. He thinks it's dumb and unsafe to carry with a round chambered.
From someone who frequently practices drawing from the holster I completely understand why the homie pulled out slowly. The only thing louder than the sound of a gun leaving a kydex holster in a situation like that is hearing “click” when you’re hoping to hear “bang.”
That situation is also why I am a huge proponent of strong side open carry. Imagine the time it would take and conspicuousness of lifting your shirt and drawing with one hand from the appendix in that situation.
Open carry is for fools who are looking for attention, I carry for protection not so people can see me with a gun
@@rouchenelvann i have a bit of mobility issues in my right shoulder, which necessitates the need to carry further forward than strong side carry.
Concealed carry is the way to go in normal day to day. As for drawing you should be able to thumb the shirt out of the way in the process of drawing. General open carry makes one the general first target.
I can draw and fire center mass in 1.5s from appendix. Just practice.
I carry appendix it’s faster I can draw while sitting it also doesn’t agitate my lower back like carrying strong side does. Despite being a smaller guy with an athletic build 5’5” 190 lbs I really don’t print I did carrying strong side though “squats down or bends over and stands up 50/50 the grip would be exposed”. I’m also carrying a full sized semi auto pistol 4.5” barrel and 18+1 with two spare magazines. Sometimes it’s uncomfortable at first but so are new boots.
The store owner said one grabbed at his gun under his shirt and another one pulled a knife out before he drew his weapon.
Watch Garand Thumb's recent drop test on pistols. They don't go off unless you pull that trigger or own a 1911. Don't use a holster if it doesn't completely cover the trigger gaurd.
I am never sure about the empty chamber idea.
If you 'think' you have time to chamber a round in an emergency, then you also probably have a flat spare tire, just enough food on hand for ONE more meal, and if a fire happens in your kitchen, THEN you will run out to get a fire extinguisher.
Nope, not me, I carry with a LIVE pistol, I don't ass-u-me that I will have time to chamber a round while someone is assaulting me or others, or whatever other situation requires the use of a handgun.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084 Iv seen way more videos of people having an accidental discharge than videos where a person defending themselves successfully because there was one in the chamber.
@@milestonowheres Gee, could that be because when an emergency happens, typically no one is ALREADY recording? But on the fumbled gun stuff that are?
And if proper gun etiquette is followed, finger off the trigger, don't point the muzzle kinds of stuff, then there are no accidents. Guns can't just go off on their own, anymore than cars drive themselves drunk.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084 how are more people ready to film with the accent more than emergencies? Mostly these are surveillance videos , dash cams etc . People reaching into their pockets for change or something catches the trigger.
If you are around guns at all I’m sure you know a few buddies that accidentally shot their guns and less buddies that gave had to draw and shoot an attacker .
The first video shows the defender not needing to shoot quickly . We don’t know if he was chambered. It might be what stopped him from shooting these kids .
Respectfully the idea of “ to do or no to do “ is on each gun user I believe. I don’t think it’s something you can say it is 100% across the board is best for everyone.
@@milestonowheres I never said anything about 100%. This is an individual decision, I just don't understand an effectively unloaded pistol for self defense.
@@theincredibleshrunkenbeegu7084
I don't understand everyone thinking they are a cop or else stupid enough to put themselves into a "one handed situation". Cops are literally the only ones who ever have to put themselves into dangerous situations. Everyone else has other options if "you are practicing good situational awareness". Which all gun owners should be practicing good situational awareness simply because they are introducing a firearm into every situation around them.
When I was in the streets.. I NEVER carried with one in the pipe.. I carried in my waistband (no holster) and growing up around a lot of criminals and gangsters back in the 70's, I have known more than a few people who blew off toes, shot themselves in the leg, or shot off one of their nuts accidentally.
Once I gave up that lifestyle and became a LEGAL LAW ABIDING gun owner since the 80's.. I got licensed and started carrying with holsters, and started training the right way.. and I now believe in carrying with one in the chamber.. but still.. not all firearms are the same.
There are some specific firearms that I would NOT carry with one in the chamber.
If your firearm is not a "drop safe" firearm.. you probably should consider carrying something else too.
Know what you carry.. and why you choose to carry it over another - some people prefer a micro or compact.. while others like myself prefer a large frame handgun.. some like pistols, some like revolvers, some like exposed hammers, some like striker fire, and some want a pistol with a de-cocker, and some go for high capacity, while others go for man stopping power.. we all have our preferences.. but your choices should always make sense!
I still do NOT like to put all of my faith and trust in a SAFETY - mechanical devices can FAIL - and I have personally witnessed a safety fail on a firearm.. and on a crossbow.. so never ever stand in front of a loaded weapon of any kind and think that YOU are SAFE.. just because the weapon is on SAFE.
You shouldn't be carrying a gun loose... if you can afford a gun you can afford a holster. Time to draw and consistency of action are a thing you will not get with a loose carry.
A revolver and a pistol are the same thing unless you mean a revolver rifle... it seems like youre mixing up bad habbits and good tactics as linked issues.
How do you feel about guns like the 226 which has a 'decocker'? I have one and have always felt kind of enh about that but I suppose drop safe tests have been done on them since there are millions of them out there.
So don't chamber a Sig 😂 lol
@@jerrymayo2586 if sigs arent drop safe why the fk are the so expensive compared to other drop safe models? Sigs are pretty high end i cant image they arent drop safe but i dont carry them, dont like em personally.
@@justaguylaughing probably cuz they won the bid for military.. their price was the lowest, people think if it passed military specs its the best option, then they jack up the price... i dunno i get annoyed by sig and glock as the only options for pistols
Any State or municipality that bans, prevents, delays, or abridges a non-incarcerated, and free, United States Citizen from protecting themselves; in a manner that is adequate and equal in effectiveness to that which is current and present on Earth: Is in direct violation of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 14th Amendments, respectively.
Any State or municipality that requires a free citizen give up their right to keep & bear arms, by transmuting such right into a privilege, by means of testing, permitting, and licensing, ignores the fundamental definitions of "Rights", "Freedoms" and "Liberty" that have remained unchanged for hundreds of years, and in parallel, violate all of the aforementioned amendments.
It is important to note that the 5th Amendment applies specifically to free but *previously incarcerated citizens who have been stripped of their 2nd amendment right.
**Proof:**
**2nd Amendment:** "...the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
**Violation:** Prohibiting or limiting an individual's ability to possess arms violates this amendment. Any weapon that can be kept or carried qualifies. A Test, Quiz, Course, Permit, or License, if required, transmute the individual right into a state earned privilege; also violating this amendment
**4th Amendment:** “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...."
**Violation:** Seizing a firearm without suspicion that a crime has been, is about to be, or is being committed, and without confidence that the nature of this crime requires apprehension of a weapon, is unreasonable and illegal. The 2nd Amendment necessitates the right to bear arms, making such seizures unrelated or unreasonable; unnecessary.
**5th Amendment:** "No person....nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
**Violation:** For a citizen who has been incarcerated and released, taking away their right to self-defense after serving their sentence violates the "Double Jeopardy" clause, as their punishment for their crime was the time served.
**8th Amendment:** "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
**Violation:** Seizing a firearm simply for possession is cruel and unusual, leaving a person defenseless. It is inhumane to deny someone the right to defend themselves. A Test, Quiz, Course, Permit, or License, if required, transmute the individual right into a state earned privilege; and the concept that any free person in society earn the privilege to adequately defend themselves is cruel, and unusual to say the least.
**9th Amendment:** "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
**Violation:** The right to defend ones self, in a manner that is adequate to succeed against the common dangers of a given time, and place, and within the borders of one's nation; is a common-sense human right that does not need to be explicitly stated in the Constitution to be protected.
**10th Amendment:** "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution...are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
**Violation:** States nor other cannot challenge the federal Constitution's clear rights, including the right to bear arms, or any of the other amendments or law expressed in that document.
**14th Amendment:** "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens...nor deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...."
**Violation:** Even if the 2nd Amendment were considered a privilege rather than a right, the 14th Amendment prohibits any state from abridging (shortening or minimizing) any immunities (shall not be infringed) or privileges (the "rights" our governments have transmuted). It also prohibits depriving life or property (self-defense, owned or carried weapons) without due process. Given that the rights of citizens have been ignored in the instances of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments regarding weapons and self defense, it can be reasonably said that due process wasn't even attempted, if not the entire Constitution considered. Therefore, all State and Federal laws that abridge the right to bear arms in regards to a lack of due process violate the 14th Amendment (As was the case in the Bruen decision).
**Other Considerations:** The 13th Amendment implies that those "unfree" are those actively incarcerated. The Supreme Court has ruled that "The People" refers to individual citizens. We the People, in order to form a more perfect Union, must provide for the common defense. Any Supreme Court rulings, state laws, federal rulings, or municipal rulings that have not considered the entire Constitution when making these laws violate due process, and therefore are unconstitutional.
**Exceptions:**
- Actively in prison
- Actively in jail
- Actively apprehended based on reasonable, articulable suspicion that a crime has, is, or is about to be committed by you alone.
**Crime Statistics:**
- There are approximately 16,000 murders annually in the United States.
- Firearms are used for self-defense up to 2.5 million times per year.
- Defensive gun use (DGU) occurs in about 70,040 instances per year, including both violent and property crimes.
- States with higher rates of gun ownership tend to have lower rates of violent crime.
In Thomas Jeffersons letter to Peter Car In 1785, quote "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun." Although, many people carried swords, and knives, as guns were expensive.
The Thompson (Sub)Machine gun, invented in 1918 (After WW1 and after the 1903 Militia Act) was avaliable to purchase by the general public all the way until 1934 under the unconstitutional NFA act, signed into law by 3 term president FDR, in his first term. Many machine guns other than this had already existed in civilian hands for years, including the Maxim Gun which was almost 20 years old by then, and could be legally owned by US citizens. This also applied to silencers, which apparently could be shipped through the USPS at $5 USD 1928 ($91.97 circa 2024)
At the time of the founding, "Arms" generally included body armor (like that of a soldiers helmet, to deflect Muskets, or chest plates) and before the New World was discovered, "Arms" usually referred to any item related to fighting, whether that be a shield or ammunition, as may be necessary in self defense.
Supreme Court Support:
Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016)
☆The U.S. Supreme Court vacated Jaime Caetano's conviction in regards to owning a stun gun, ruling that the Second Amendment protects the right to own more than just firearms☆
People v. Aguilar (2013)
☆The Illinois Supreme Court found the state's Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Weapon statute unconstitutional under the Second Amendment☆
McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)
☆The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment applies to state and local governments, striking down Chicago's handgun ban☆
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)
☆The U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess firearms for self-defense within the home, and is an individual right of each, free citizen☆
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen (2022)
☆The U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home. The Court struck down New York's "proper cause" requirement for obtaining a concealed carry license, ruling it unconstitutional as it prevented law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms☆
In regards to the security of We People in the face of such prevalent weapon ownership: One might feel exposed if a journalist peers into their buisness or home from a public way; and they merely must shut their blinds as the onus is on them to do so.
And in the same manner: One might feel un-prepared, under-equipped, and overwhelmed in a downtown where all citizens have rifles; And they merely match the situation via the same or greater means, by obtaining, bearing, carrying, keeping, and presumably training with arms the same or more powerful, efficient, and capable for the situation at hand.
We must do all we can to ensure our right to defend ourselves no matter our ideas or opinions, type, or past, as without this, we may not defend our speech, or property, or our freedom.
Very underrated comment. Thanks for the info!
@@JayG1911 yes of course
This is great, saving it to my computer!
Usual suspects act like pack animals.
Usual race baiters can't watch a single video of a situation without expressing racism. I bet it's all you think about when you wake up every morning.
According to Darwin's original theory, they are the missing link. The reason the link is missing is obvious. No one would accept it in today's world if they came out and said that blacks are the link between apes and man. The Nazis believed that.
They are
Because they are.
Regardless of race or ethnicity a mob is a mob,a bunch of angry kids or a bunch of tiki torch wielders both are dangerous if they outnumber you
My carry rotation includes a DA/SA with a decocker, 1911-style pistols, and the deep-conceal pistols are striker-fired with external safeties. I've carried 1911-style pistols for so long that disengaging the external safety is not only part of the draw but where my thumb stays during shooting, and it helps me to not accidentally engage the slide stop. I practice under both dry fire conditions and on the range, and haven't missed disengaging the external safety yet on any of my pistols.
I can't believe this is even an argument. The guy trying to kill me damn sure has one in the chamber.
great video thanks. I carry in my truck and haven't gotten comfortable with a round in the chamber yet. Your video gave me some more piece of mind.
A gun without a round in the chamber is called a “dead man’s gun”
Not really - we practised drawing the gun and shooting on a target right from our hips - round in chamber vs empty chamber and times were almost identical - the difference was something like 0.15s if I remember correctly. The only noticeable difference was when we simulated being shot in one hand. Drawing and racking the slide one-handed took more time - but still not that bad - half a second max (although racking a slide one-handed isn't reliable).
@@martin5561 under ideal range conditions …. Go look at Active Self Protections info on the subject …..or ask any force on force instructor ….. it fails far more often than not in active situations ….
I’m not spending the rest of my life trying to rack a slide.
Agreed. Round in chamber should be the default/norm for defensive carry, outside of home base.
Some exceptions include:
Anyone new to carrying, ok to start with empty chamber, during the first/initial period, so as to have chance to get used to the other aspects of actually carrying in public. But try to transition to chambered soon as comfortable to do so.
When carrying at home or on someone's private/personal property.
When children are around who might get very near or if you actually need to handling/playing with/taking care of children.
Won’t catch me lacking.🤷♂️ You can’t make not having one in the pipe make sense to me.
My sister who knows nothing about firearms asked me the other day “why do you carry a loaded gun?” 😂🤷♂️ I told her because an unloaded one doesn’t go bang ❗️
Abd if you gonna carry unloaded you may as well leave it home.
I'm a newer owner, not new to firearms or firearm culture, and I've always thought that the best and safest way to carry was cocked and locked, which is what I've been practicing since I bought my desantis holster and started EDC
I use a thumb over safety grip on my 1911, which I feel gives me more control when shooting and it immediately deactivates the safety
It took me a year after getting my ccw to feel comfortable carrying with one in the pipe once I learned about the internal safety’s I felt way more comfortable and confident
FYI you do believe in safeties. Your holster is your safety.
Says many people that have a ND in their pants
Remember the “ I’m the only person professional enough …. “ KABLAM !
@@truthboomertruthbomber5125😂 I remember that. He gave a prime example of what not to do in a very professional manner 😂
No, I don’t believe in external safeties. I carry only Glocks. there’s a safety inside the trigger in case it’s dropped, my holster covers the trigger, and the other safety is between my ears. I don’t want to be dicking around with an external safety when I need to draw and shoot in much less than 1.5 seconds.
Attacking 1 person as a group might be the ultimate form of cowardice!
The suspects here in both instances are usual
Usual race baiters can't watch a single video of a situation without expressing racism. I bet it's all you think about when you wake up every morning.
I personally can't understand why it was EVER a question!
Let me explain~~In the internet age personal choice is scary to many on the internet, they believe everybody must follow the cult.
because some people understand that unintended discharge only happens on a loaded chamber and never on an empty one.
And have weighed their percentages of an attack, vs. an ND.
If being chambered were w/o risk, then it's no brainer and not a question.
But being chambered means some (with kids, especially) need to consider storage vs. staging and possibly creating far more danger & risk than that .75 seconds it takes to rack the slide.
Two years ago to guys tried to rob me. You always have to be prepared at all times.
Well, how did it end? Let's hear the whole story 😂
@@josiahhein6036 I think we know
Heg your channel has seriously always been fantastic brother and always getting better. I’ve been watching your videos for a long time. One of my favorite things to see come across my RUclips is one of your videos.
leaving aside ALL of the valid points about trigger guard, finger discipline, holster quality etc...I carry appendix and I'm just not comfortable having my barrel pointed at my femoral or my junk most of the time as it sits in the holster. That's why I carry without one in the chamber. On top of that, when I loosen my belt and zipper to take a leak, the pants flap+belt+noise maker folds down like a triangle leaving the barrel pointed almost directly at my face. I try to catch it before it naturally moves in that direction but sometimes it still happens. Again, I feel better knowing there is NOT one in the chamber in that instance.
Your demonstration really highlights why this practice can be crucial for self-defense.
I am too old to fight, and too fat to run, so I carry a firearm to give myself an advantage in a fight. Why on earth would I then put myself at a DIS-advantage by carrying with an empty chamber?
Man I been looking all over for that second video. I seen the version where he shot. It was so quick
My brother doesn't think it wise to carry with one in the chamber, even though I have tried to talk him into it via different scenarios, real and hypothetical. He also carries a Beretta 92 (I may have the model wrong) with a manual safety. That's two extra steps to get his weapon in the fight, racking a slide and disengaging the safety. Two extra steps that have a high chance of leaving you a sitting duck when the adrenaline hits. I carry a Glock 19. I also carry more often than he does since I'm licensed and he isn't. If you carry a gun, have it chambered, because the less time you have to spend getting ready is more time you can spend in the fight. Be safe folks!!
I’ve always like your channel but lately your content has been awesome. These real world situations really help to make people aware of what can happen and how to prepare. Keep up the good work God Bless
Not everything that comes to firearm is black and white. There are pros and cons when it comes to carrying with a round in the chamber. I have trained with individuals that "israeli carry" and are capable of placing the first shot on an "A" zone at 7 yards in 1.3 seconds drawing from concealment. I have trained with people that cannot accomplish the same drawing time from an OWB holster and one in the chamber. Since the vast majority of gun owners do not train, this conversation is pointless anyway. For those that are highly trained, the difference is maybe 0.3-0.4 seconds. In my mind the safety concern about carrying with one in the chamber has nothing to do with EDC but rather with training. If you train like you carry (and you should), a good training session will involve dozens of repetitions drawing and re-holstering the firearm. This will create multiple opportunities for a negligent discharge as you are pushing the envelope to gain speed and accuracy (as you should). A gun owner should be capable to perform a risk assessment to determine if gaining 0.3 second on a draw is more likely to save his/her life versus a self inflicted discharge. The assessment should take into account the environment, level of proficiency, commitment to training, etc. Watching a video of a pre-selected event and someone else's opinion is definitely not the best way to go about this decision.
+1 you get it
@@iceman9678 +1 is only like 8% capacity increase nowadays with the new micro nines.
The bad guy will determine how the interaction begins. You are assuming he will choose to begin the situation in a way that best suits your preconceived idea how the situation will develop ( i.e. you will have space and time to draw and rack the slide). There are so many different scenarios that would guarantee you don’t have space or time and also that your off hand is free and not grappling with the bad guy.
@@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Luck also plays a huge factor, if you are dealing with experienced criminals, you don’t get to draw anyway.
@@iceman9678 I do get it and I can do math too! Who has more capacity, 20+0 or 10+1? 😂🤣😂 Your "+1" argument is very weak in relation to the size of the magazine.
For me, definitely one in the chamber. With a Beretta 92 it’s got a safety which can be switched off on the draw. For my Glocks they have trigger guard switches,just have to be pressed in to draw. Good to spend money on a holster. Thx
not comfortable ? go double action/single or single action only with safety .. problem solved no reason get bullied into just buying a striker fired pistol there are so many options...
Always appreciate your videos
Thanks brother
Cocked and locked condition 1 manual thumb safety.
If only my Beretta's safety wasn't also a decocker. 😔
@Poser_Metal_Records my H&K USP has a decocker but only full throw of the safety. So safe, fire, and down decock.
One can even question if you need the safety, depending on the design of the firearm, and whether there is a firing pin block, and the trigger is 4+ lbs in single action.
A P938 is SAO, in its cocked position its really no different than a striker fired P320... and a P320 can have a lighter trigger pull than the P938.
While yhe P938 is often referred to a mini 1911, it has a firing pin block where most 1911s don't.
The World is a Hot Range!
Around muds, always be ready to fight for your life.
They would have kept hitting him. The moment he fought back, they would jump him. The moment he went down, they would kill him.
That's what that crowd was there for. To follow the leader. That's what crowds do
Never relax around bleks
What are we 7 years old? Just say the word... If you are a real man just say it. Stop with the code words and dog whistles. Grow a pair.
@@Soulsaint1215 Why? So RUclips can censor it?
I think you meant that the second scenario man’s slow draw was to be discreet, not discriminate.
I alway carry chambered in an XDs with no manual safety. Never been an issue, and unreasonable to do it any other way.
I have really learned a ton from your videos. I’m a new gun owner at 65, and have much to learn.🇺🇸
I completely agree. I honestly can't think of anything in your videos that I've seen, that I don't agree with.
Thanks brother
I have many new polymers that have no safety as the holster is the safety, however I’m a long-time 1911 driver, so my thumb just instinctively “works the safety” when there is none, so yeah, I carry 100% “cocked-n-locked” as to do otherwise is pointless and defies the logic of personal defense all together
It used to be illegal in California to move around in a group of more than 5 people. They called it the mob law. Where are the cops? They shouldn't be allowing this mob to form especially in an adult area such as liquor stores and such
@@danb6172 it's the wild west out here
Laws only apply to certain people. The protected class is above the law.
The usual suspects imagine that..
They think they own everything.
It’s the typical suspects
Reggins
Not carrying is the wrong way.
The Debate was over before it began
I actually practice hiding my draw. It happens more than you think, plus obscuring the gun may let you manage the escalation better.
I hate to be the one to rain on everyone's parade, but unless you are practicing your draw, which the vast majority don't, one in the chamber won't matter. You either have a split second to get your gun or you have that feeling a few moments before the need arises. In my experience the people who don't want to carry hot are people who are aware of their own lack of training and would rather not take the chance of shooting themselves or they don't trust the gun they have. The best way to defend yourself will always be your ability to walk away from a bad situation. Protect lives, not ego.
You do not always get the opportunity to walk away. Assume the worst, anything less than that is a plus..
Sad part about most people with firearms is that they just buy the firearm but they never practice with it. They think just having it is enough to protect them but in reality it makes them more vulnerable and dangerous situation if somebody takes that gun from you and you don’t know how to use it you just put everybody else around you in harm. Learn to protect yourself the correct way Don’t think by having a weapon. It’s going to do the work for you.
Carry how you feel comfortable, train how you carry
@@jayrock2288 Exactly. Best comment in the thread.
Wish my country allowed me to carry... :)
Welcome to your future. Best regards, from South Africa.
He drew his weapon indiscriminately? I believe the word you're looking for is, discretely. With that said, the debate is not over. The debate will never be over. Personally, I keep one in the chamber, decocked, and I believe that's the only rational way to go. I understand the hesitation to keep one in the chamber when carrying a striker fired weapon with no safety, but if you're bothered by that, then you're carrying the wrong firearm. Get something that's DA/SA with a decocker, and the problem is solved.
That is where I draw the line as well. I'm not sure how we became comfortable carrying the equivalent of a 1911, cocked, chambered and often with no manual safety at all. It is no wonder people are shooting themselves and bystanders. Ultimately, I carry a DA/SA with a round chambered. Sometimes, I carry a SA striker pistol UN-chambered. I am slightly less ready for action in the second mode, but hardly unarmed as some would suggest. Do your own thinking and make your own decision. If it goes bad, none of the internet "high speed operators" are going to be around to take the blame. They will take a dump on you and throw you under the bus, saying that "Your trigger discipline must have been less than perfect".
In the first video, chambered or un-chambered was completely irrelevant as merely presenting the gun ended the threat as often happens.
@@Sherman62and in your last statement, what if it doesn't. What if, you pull unchambered, and wave it around, and instead of scaring the 💩 away, one of them pulls and let's you have one? So much for your "it scares them away."
@@krabysniper Then the other guy was defending himself, I guess?
I don't believe he was in the wrong.
He was surrounded by a group that could have kept attacking him.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Don’t be a victim.
Yep, they can save your life. That's why Leo's, and the alphabet agency bois do as well.
Exactly. All the nonsense that says otherwise is like meeting a tiger in the jungle and saying "Not all tigers!" 😂
The only difference is that tigers are still beautiful creatures in their natural environment, unlike you know... 😄
Retired LEO, always carry with 1 in the pipe. Buy Quality JHP rounds so you don’t over penetrate. When you’re being attacked that’s not the time to get a rack failure to feed from junk ammo.
Carry 80% waist locked in chamber. Muzzle is pointing down and in control through the draw. Other 20% carry on Motorcycle in chest holster and muzzle points back under arm in cross draw configuration. Muzzle is pointing behind me and not under direct control until removed from holster. Empty chamber in this situation because of muzzle orientation in holster. But really there is no wrong way for you. Just carrying is the biggest advantage. Negligent discharges happen all the time. Only you can decide what you are comfortable with doing.
Too many tough guy dude bros in here.... Yes if I'm in the city or in the woods, I'm chambered, but if I'm in my rural safe town, unchambered.
No matter what these guys say, chambered is a higher risk than unchambered, that risk is only worth it if I'm in a riskier situation or area.
@@thomasward00 , Same here I carry with a round chambered only in certain situations/locations.
Craft holsters makes a shoulder rig with barrel in vertical orientation. then after unsnapping it allows a swivelling to let you draw your weapon out in a more horizontal manner. Check them out!
@@rayhynson8223 I have and the problem is when in a seated position the muzzle end pokes out and exposes the carry. Maybe with a 3in barrel but I carry a Commander 4.24in. In Florida you can get in trouble for exposing your carry. Compromise is the current configuration. Back seater is carrying locked and loaded. I would rather die than be responsible for accidentally shooting my wife or an innocent person in a vehicle behind me. Not every situation is equal and I have been carrying for 3 decades +. If I shoot myself that’s a thing I am willing to do.
I agree with you 100% !! I carry a double/single pistol that allows me to carry with one in the chamber, de-cocked and the safety off with that first shot heavy trigger pull acting as a secondary safety yet not needing to rack the slide for that first shot !! Carry on brother !! I carry IWB...
It’s not a hot button topic. It’s a topic that outs stupid people.
yes. The people that say "always" & "never" & other absolutes as if every person has exact same risks, circumstances & other variables.
Mom taking the kids to swim class is totally identical to a security guard at a precious metals warehouse. Totally identical. Always.
@@ShastaBean it breaks my heart to see all the chaff you've gotten from your reasonable views. I carried an M9 in condition 1 for a decade on duty, and carry personally on the regular. I carry condition 3 because of 2 things. I've seen 3 NDs in my life all from competent, trained men I've trusted with my life with their weapons. They can and do happen. The second reason is because I have seen how rapid situations can develop. Unexpected combat takes about half a second to register from the more vigilant deployed service members on mission. Walking through a fair with my children isn't anything like being back there, keyed up. For me, I understand that sometimes the best hand I can play won't be good enough, I've lived long enough to have seen that lesson in practice. I've had my personal carry leave the holster inadvertently at the john 10 times more often than I've ever cleared leather with intent. On the other side of the coin, my best friend has carried condition 1 for 25 years, daily, with no incident. He doesn't have any kids and his civilian work deals with more high risks.
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Im a lady who rarely gets to practice. I dont carry because of my job. I would love to purchase the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 but afraid of the 2-3lb trigger pull. My all time fav gun is the Kel-tec P32 which is the smallest, thinnest, lightest gun that holds 7+1 or 10+1 with ext magazine. It has a heavy double action trigger pull. It is reliable w/fmj ammo. I own 2 of these, and would buy another, but they are hard to find now😢.
KY Gun company has them in stock right now, fyi
@@richard9436 thanks so much!
When I first started carrying I carried with an empty chamber. I wasnt afraid to carrying with a chambered round, my concern was when I got home. My daughter and 5 year old grandson were living with us. My concern was that I would come home and maybe go to the bathroom and take the gun and holster off. My concern was that I might forget that I left the gun on the counter and my grandson might get to it. I felt that the risk to me of carrying with an empty chamber was worth it to be sure that I didnt cause a problem with my grandson. Now during that time I did practice drawing and racking in one motion. Once I was positive that I had a rock solid routine of securing my gun as soon as I walked into the house I switched to a loaded chamber carry.
I'm in a conceal only carry state, always 1 in the chamber safety off, all day every day! Although I was taught and trained that way from the start. Hit the range every 2 weeks drawing from the hip! Tulster Contour Holster OWB.
Crazy… I wasn’t considered a kid at 17 with my first deployment in the Marines carrying a m240b…
I was in the Army, at 18, with the Bravo....got out when they switched to the Lima, never got to shoot the Lima but I heard it wasn't as good.
Excellent excellent video! I agree the guy at the door was being discreet about drawing his firearm. A smart move in my opinion. I have several different firearms, Single action/DAO, etc. Bottom line is you must be intimately familiar with all of them whether you’re going to carry with a round in the chamber or not. My home defense weapon is a pump action Mossberg. I purposely don’t have around in the chamber because I want an intruder to hear me rack the slide as a deterrent. All of my other weapons I carry safety off hammer down except the DAO of course. Get familiar with your weapons people and PRACTICE!
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It is a personal choice. Obviously only showing videos requiring a quick draw presents one side. All the accidental discharges would present a different side.
Booo
@@jerrys5764 I know I know. You are all badasses who train constantly and live in Fallujah and only vacation in Chicago.
There is no such thing as a “accidental discharge“. It’s called a “ND”, which stands for NEGLIGENT discharge”. You did something wrong by not following the four simple principal rules of gun safety. You quite possibly maybe had break two of those rules to cause any harm.
Since I began to carrying, I pocket carry or apendex carry with a holster, always ready with the chamber hot. Spare magazines for both too. Keeping them prepared for use by cleaning and inspecting them at home on a normal frequency. Shoot those rounds while training. Lint is a 🤬...😊
Mike Glover of field craft survival.. dorsnt always carry with one in the chamber? I believe it depends on the environment. The argument for not having one in the chamber revolves around the presence of children.. I have a 5 year old boy.. he is a wild monkey that climbs all over us all the time.. If im at my nieces bday party, not going to set the gun down somewhere obviously.. So in this situation. Not having it hot might be best option.. If im in a shady situation or neighborhood then have 1 in the chamber.. Most ccw holders run a higher risk percentage wise of accidental discharge by them or a child then they do of ever having to shoot someone.. Just some other viewpoints for the debate
@@redpill7088 carrying in a proper holster for the firearm you carry will stop a gun from going off if kids are climbing all over you.
@@Tazer120 tell that to the people that got settlements from sig
@@redpill7088I carry a Sig 320 with a chambered round never had one go off on me. But I guess in our society when a "trained" officer throws an unholstered pistol in their gym bag they should get money for stupidity.
The question I like to ask someone who is against carrying one in the pipe is “do you have enough time to put on your seatbelt before you get into a car accident? Or is it better to have it on just in case you don’t see it coming?” These encounters are violent and fast everything you can do to have time on your side is the best move for self defense.
Your car don't run on a empty tank
Makes a lot of sense.
Crapofornia thinks electric cars run on air, so why wouldn't they think Pew pews just fire air. 🤡s.
It also doesn't run until you insert the key and turn it or push the button (with foot on the brake pedal).
Telsa's do...
@@walkingwolf8072 But someone still has to plug it in.
In your second clip, it was a home invasion. The perp was permanently put to sleep. It was ruled justifiable use of force. The slow draw was crucial as the assailant was ready for a quick response. This save this mans life!
This video did nothing for the debate...how is it over.
Depends on training and situation. There's no one size fits all. There is a training regiment that involves chambering a round as a part of the draw. It's not perfect but with training it can be effective. There are advantages and disadvantages to most techniques, tactics, and procedures.
Your head will keep you out of trouble most of the time.
The scenario can be really bad for the bad guy when the armed good guy is in fear of their life and has no where to retreat to.
very much situational & nuanced.
This "ends the debate" claim, and then shows a guy that probably should not be carrying chambered, based on what was seen - who never fires (means plenty of time to chamber) and never actually needed that extra .75 seconds....but did manage to point his chambered gun at several people that he was simply trying to intimidate by that time and no longer imminent threat of death or great bodily harm...with his finger on the trigger, of course.
@@ShastaBean I agree. Never leave a "safe" place to put yourself in danger.
If your weapons isn't hot when carrying, then you are carrying a paper weight.
Paperweight that is capable of becoming a firearm with a simple rack.
@@skyblue1122 did you just watch the same video I did?
@@GloryOnHigh Just stating fact, better than not carrying at all.
@@GloryOnHigh you mean the video with the guy that never had to fire? That's what we're using as an example of "ending the debate" about carrying chambered?
That clown was a prime example of someone who should not carry chambered.
Waving it at people with his finger on the trigger.
.75 seconds to rack a slide is the difference between having a 0% chance of ND vs all of the considerations of carrying, handling, and storing/staging that come along with it.
All NDs involved a round in the chamber. All of them. None of them were on an empty chamber
I totally misread the title and thought this video was about keeping your weapon on safe…I reckon if you think one shouldn’t bi chambered, you’ve never been in a gun fight
Also, and this is a fun bonus…make sure all of your magazines fit and lock easily..as well as drop smoothly when time to reload..trust me
This will be our world if Kamala Harris is elected.
She was a prosecutor…
It will also be our world if Donald Trump is elected, or even if Chase Oliver or Jill Stein get elected. It's the United States of America, it's not suddenly going to lose all crime overnight.
Literally a cop vs a felon.
My CZ-9mm has a de-cocker, so I can have a round in chamber but the 1st trigger pull is DA=safer. My pocket pistol in 380 is DA only so it's safe too.