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The hot start led to complacency: a feeling of quiet pleasure or security, often while unaware of some potential danger, defect, or the like; self-satisfaction or smug satisfaction with an existing situation, condition, etc.
Braves fan here, Phils had an outstanding season. I'm not a fan of sitting for 5 days then going back out there expecting the bats to be hot. This likely was part of the issue. Not every team is impacted by the layoff the same way but some teams just come out flat after being idle for 5 days. It's happened to us 2 years as well in my opinion. This year we had too many injuries to overcome and the Padres were just better than us with what we out out on the field. Phils will be solid next year as well. Mets have had a nice season too. 2025 division race should be a dandy to watch down to the wire!
I agree but won’t use that as an excuse. That can easily be mitigated by playing a legit all in scrimmage against one of the minor league teams to stay fresh. The Phillies even played a mock game at the stadium prior to the implosion in the nlds
@BKDBut They are not the only team since this seeding method was used 2 years ago. Go educate yourself and look at other teams put out 1st round after 5 days off. No other time during the year does a team sit that long except the all star break. If you can't comprehend that it will hurt some teams, then I can't help you. If you read what I put above, I clearly stated it has not impacted ALL teams that way but it's stupid to sit for 5 days that damn long. Period
@@jb4054 Yeah, which means you're looking at a correlation and assuming it's causation. Your brain seems to not be able to comprehend the idea of a top seed losing to a low seed in baseball I assume this helps you with your Braves choking
@BKDBut No, it's happened multiple times, actually, and common sense says it's worth the conversation. Braves had historic offense 2023 and you think they forgot how to hit in 1st round vs a team they won the season series from in addition? The Phils had a very good offense this year also and not much hitting overall. Don't sit here and tell me sitting for 5 days has nothing to do with it. All teams should be playing within 2 to 3 days of season ending at the most period. A longer break than the all star break gives is asinine. Period
Zach Wheeler said it best right after the London series: "not sure what it was, but something changed in the clubhouse". I have always been an opponent of MLB teams playing outside of North America, and we really seen a decline with our Phils, when they went to London. We were *fucking* absolutely dominating baseball before that series, and basically became a .500 team after that series. While I don't think we were going to play .680 ball all year long, something changed drastically from that series, and it did not go in our favor.
To our beloved Phillies and to all Philly fans; far and wide, paid and unpaid, A humbling experience(s) and starting over is not necessarily a bad thing. WE have the wherewithal to go all the way! WE can do this! A shout-out is well deserved to all of the most marvelous hometown commentators this side of the Mississippi! You are a valuable team, as well. Thank you sooooo very much! These games would not be half as enjoyable without your expertise, insight and loyalty to the thrilling game of baseball and for our beloved Phillies, of that I am certain. I am one with a fresh set of eyes. Quite frankly, I could never understand the zeal fans possess in rooting for their favorite sports' team. Now within the past few months, I have become one of those fascinated fans; i.e., yelling at the TV and at the same time reassuring my 'kids' that they didn't do anything wrong. I'm simply watching the Phillies play. Please forgive my naivete. I haven't been around long enough to develop a tainted view of the whole picture. All I see is the ENORMOUS TALENT and the GENUINE CAMARADERIE within the Phillies team which is not to be taken for granted. Let's take heed of the lessons learned, and let go of the past in order to move forward to be victorious; one game at a time. WE can do this!! Thank you for reading to the end. Actually, this is not the end but the BEGINNING of a NEW ERA for our beloved Phillies! Love you! Thank you to each and everyone of you in whatever capacity you may hold or wish to hold; for all of your hard work and/or dedication in experiencing the wonderful, exciting world of baseball. The following is an excerpt from 'Daily Prayers for Strength': Dear God, Thank You for bringing us a new day filled with hope, potential and ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES. Please help us to overcome the negative thoughts or behaviors that hinder our progress. Did I mention that WE can do this?!! P.P.S. As previously stated, I am a novice. Casty is my favorite player. Don't boo him again! And, the Phillies don't suck. Like what's wrong witchyou. Like Kody Clemens says... LET'S GO!!!
Awful, awful ending to the season - this was THE chance. Next year, the Braves will have their studs back from the IL and the Mets will have Soto (and perhaps more). The divisional crown was a GIFT this year and they pissed it away.
@@gregoryfarshtey6856 Mets have a richer owner and $170mm+ coming off the books. The biggest offer is coming from Queens. Only question is whether he takes it.
@@gregoryfarshtey6856 It's funny that you think that. Soto isn't taking 95% of his money deferred. The Yankees are the competition. But between Judge and Cole, that's what, over $70 mil for 2 players. Judge is also an OF, their top prospect, Jasson Dominguez, is an OF, and if Spencer Jones was rated as a top 5 tool prospect last year, also an OF. Does it make sense to spend another 45+/ year on an OF when they have options, but have no 2B, no 3B, no 1B, and will need to retool the SP?
Your comments are brutally honest which is why I appreciate this post. As a Philly fan who was invested in all 162 games regular season, plus the post season few before their collapse, I am worried about their future. Rob Thomson is NOT to blame; all blame rests on the sluggers for swinging at balls outside of the strike zone. What happened to this team that actually made it to their goal of the NLDS? It is very disappointing.
He absolutely shares some of the blame. These bums looked unmotivated for most of the series, outside of Harper and Casty. Bohm was especially disgusting.
Stay away from overpaid stars, and build from within. Our only championships have come with homegrown players. Stars don't guarantee championships, and definitely, not long-term.
That locker room is fractured. There was a turning point. Maybe the London Series. My theory is the Seranthony/Pache trade upset a lot of guys in the lockerroom. Not only are you trading away a key veteran loved by the team from the WS run, we're getting scraps in return. Just a terrible trade, terrible decision, none of the players liked it. Trading away a solid bullpen guy like that put doubts in the rest of the pen and considering we're talking about freaking JEFF HOFFMAN and MATT STRAHAM, I'm not surprised they went back down to Earth. This team SUCKS.
Braves fan here - seems all of the NL east got off to a great start and faded away except the Mets who got hot at the right time. The Phillies are good, the Braves are good getting out of the NL east is only going to get harder. It is all about being hot at the right time. Its hard losing when you are expected to win. It was a helluva season
Wish the first half Phillies played the second half Mets….Phils need to get a shrewd manager that doesn’t panic after the first inning…and get more contact hitters and not big swing and miss hitters
Look at rhe calender it's not the 1st half Phillies vs. the 2nd half Mets. It's the 1st QUARTER Phillies vs.the 2nd QUARTER Mets. What happened to the Phillies you ask.A better team. THE NEW YORK METS.
Soto would balance out that lineup very well. I think he is exactly what they need, someone who doesn't chase and strikeout, and gets on base. But the only problem is the pricetag and if Middleton wants to dish out that kinda cash
But I will tell you this also especially in baseball what I think is starting to mean more than talent is team chemistry. If you look at the Texas Rangers last year or even the Arizona Diamondbacks there’s no way that those two teams were in the top five or six most talented but yet they both made it to the World Series And I look at the Mets right now and I just see a ton of chemistry. It’s like everyone is on the same page in the same chapter and in the same book and whether you like them or not, it’s awesome that comes together for any team, but obviously it’s better if it happens for your team, but I’m beginning to think that talent alone will not get you there.
I agree with you. Team chemistry is undervalued. In the Phillies case I think there are too many individual egos in the club house. To succeed in the post season you need your non-star players to come through and star players to sacrifice their egos to be situational.
I think it’s a mistake to get rid of Bohm because of his NLDS performance. Other star players suffer too. However if he goes I think they can move Castellanos back to 3B, move Harper back to RF and sign Christian Walker to play 1B. Strengthen the BP and I think they’ll be in the mix again in 2025.
Phillies fan since the 60s. the same thing happened to the Phillies that happened to the braves. a week off from playing games. braves got the week off 2 years in a row and the Phillies beat them both times. the plays lose their timing at the plate by the time they get it back. it's too late.
The biggest problem with the Phillies hitters is their absolute inability to adjust their approach. They got off to a red hot start. Major league teams are pretty good. Other team around the league watched video and starting pitching the Phillies out of the zone. Phillies hitters kept swinging at bad pitches for 3 months and were eliminated from the playoffs. They never adjusted to the leagues adjustments. That’s both on the hitting coach and the players. You can be overly aggressive at the plate and the other teams around the league took notice.
Bro that’s ALL I kept thinking! U can argue that on paper their roster bla bla bla…. But at the end of the day it’s what’s on the field not on paper what counts. And the Mets took 3 of 4 games TWICE in 2 weeks!!
That team won 95 games. The only losses here are the fanatic fans. Get over it and be glad you have a team that can win 90 or more games. The playoffs are a corporate scam in sports!
Lol. Love how losers always have an excuse. Phillies suck even when they win 95 games. They just suck. The city sucks. The mayor sucks. The Flyers. The subway. They all suck
Add three low k rate hitters. When you put the ball in play something good can happen. Learn how to draw a BB. Steal a base etc etc. Stop over paying for players.
Something happened after that blown second game of the London Series. It's crazy to think that ONE of 162 games could've changed the entire outcome of a season but there was some bad, bad juju after that loss. We basically played .500 ball for the rest of the year and if we had won a SINGLE series during that rough stretch against the Athletics D-bags, and Pirates, the Mets don't make the postseason. Given our cupcake schedule over the last half of the season after the ASB we should've finished with at LEAST 102-105 wins, if not more. We may never know what has happened in that clubhouse over the last few months but I really feel like these guys just don't like each other, and this team is honestly very unlikable. Once Rhys left it felt like clubhouse chemistry plummeted and it was only being held together because this team was on an unreal tear. But once the losing started and they couldn't get back into it, it looks like they just got complacent and gave up. Had they just won a SINGLE series over that awful stretch of July 12-21 or August 8-11, the NL playoffs are looking a LOT different this year, and we possibly even see a second NL Central club in the mix, like the Cubs. This year proved how a single series in the middle of the summer can make or break a season by the end.
It absolutely is one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, because they were expected to win it all before the season started. They led the division basically since day 1, and played well. They just fell apart.
calling their season just a disappointment is an understatement. it was an embarrassing, gargantuan, monumental flailing of the arms let down. no crowd was more behind their team than phils fans. we had the stadium on the freakin richter scale all season. just for them to be this emotionless bottomless pit of misery at the end. thompson should have turned into the tazmanian devil choke slamming chairs and dugout equipment. instead, he was this passive weasel neutered of any type of masculine energy. he is a high school softball coach, doesnt belong in majors.
The Phillies had a very early strength of schedule that fit in their favor very well. They got out to a quick hot lead in the division. And once they went over to London and came back against the Mets they lost their Mojo. They no longer knew who they were at the plate after that trip to London. I'm also not blaming London this team is fundamentally not a strong baseball team . They don't have the bullpen to be able to go 5 or 6 Innings and in my opinion they don't have the starters who can go truly 5 or 6 Innings outside of Chris wheeler. The Phillies will continue to give us the same thing every single year. As long as all of those dudes are under contract. And we will all eat it up and we'll all show up to the ballpark. What else are we going to do. We love them so much hahaha laughing at My Pain.
If you think this year was a complete failure for the Phillies I wonder what you think about the Chicago White Sox season. I’m not a Phillies fan but to sit here and say that the season was a complete failure. I can’t agree with that and trust me. I hate the Yankees more than anyone else and I do understand with the high payroll these days if you don’t win the World Series, yeah you fell short, but I wouldn’t say it’s a complete failure. The key to success, especially in baseball is to peak at the right time. Unfortunately no one seems to have the right formula for doing that sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn’t.
Maybe Phillies have to go back to basic baseball such as cohesive offensive work including bunts and more stolen bases. It seems that they depend more on homers rather than teamwork.
Dombrowski needs to go . The best moves he has made is trading away some of the garbage he traded for(i.e.Soto). Should of went all in at the deadline.
Not letting Wheeler start the 8th in game one, was a mistake. Hoffman was awful all series. He looked very out of place and uncomfortable. Weird, really.
The Phillies were the 2023 Braves, and the Mets were the 2023 Phillies. Those series were basically the same exact outcomes. Think about what was the same in each of those scenarios. #PlayoffFormat
Lemme help you out: It's a long season. Y'all were a .500 team after the break. So, throw out 95 wins and the division title. They mean nothing. There, expectations are now what they should be. The Mets however have been in 5th gear for the past 4.5 months. Though they barely made the playoffs, and expectations were low, they were clearly the better team of the two.
I told a,y one who would listen this team was flawed. Defense,depth were major holes. Tre needs to learn to play the OF plus add another. Start grooming a catcher and let Realmuto play only 4 games a week. I’m keeping Bohm fire the hitting coach. Do,t want Bergman Soto won’t happen
What happened to the Fighten' Phil's?? Simple: THEIR NOT THE 2008PHILLIES!!!! In the beginning of the season they were on Fire, after the all-star break they fell Apart!!! SMH 😞😞 And I'm die-hard Philly!!!!! 😢
Here's a great Joke on why the Phillies lose in the playoffs year after year, WHY WERE THE PHILLES ALWAYS SO TIRED IN THE PLAYS---- THEY WERE HITTING THE WRONG BALLS!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Coach Thompson has to learn how to rest these guys.
This is what happens when you meet the Met's on there home field and you think your better then they are! And you can forget about Soto. He'll most likely be a Met or a Yankee
why not go after soto ? kinda short sighted comment. big money is coming off the books in the next year or two. casty has 2 years left and schwarber is up after this next season, as well as realmuto finishing up his contract. we can absolutely go after soto. let ownership sit in the luxury tax for a year maybe 2 at the most. soto is 26 years old. you bring him in now during his hall of fame prime years. he helps this roster not age so fast with harper and turner. with promising young talents like crawford and aiden miller, we can let bohm walk after next season and crawford fixes our centerfield position finally. both players are on the cheap for a while. we better go after soto. players like him don't grow on trees.
I’d say signing a guy to a 14-year, $500M+ deal is shortsighted. By 2028 they’ll already have $80M tied up between Harper, Turner, & Nola who will all be 35 yrs old. I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s wise to continue to hand out decade plus long, couple hundred million dollar contracts
Typical Phillies fans style; giving zero credit to what the Mets have done since June 3, or what they did against Atlanta in the final innings to make it into the postseason, or what they did in Milwaukee in that 9th inning, or what they did with their comebacks, or the fact that they beat Philly in less than five games both in the postseason and also won 3/4 in their last regular season series. Keep blaming your team, and giving zero credit to the Mets magical season. I’ve read so many comments from the Braves/Brewers/etc and many give credit to the Mets success; but Phillies fans are always so angry…your team is loaded; u just got beat by the team that was playing hotter than you, for about, ya know, the last FOUR MONTHS!! Is it really that surprising?
The Phillies have the worst team history in all of baseball let alone the rest of the teams in shittydelphia Phillies , Eagles , Sixers , Flyers all horrible. Where Pittsburgh has much more success. LGFM the new 2022 Phillies
Their lineup is an absolute mess. They live and die by the long ball. This happened in 2022, 2023, and now. Stop with the nonsensical Schwarber leadoff.
you missed the cause it’s poor coaching and worse off the learned excuse of it’s just baseball in sports you never allow a team to learn to lose or allow an era of no accountability. collectively this enabled an environment where hitting coach failed to prepare players for what to expect and allowed scouting reports against his team to define his team. horrific and if you come to work and are allowed to fail repeatedly and aren’t given directions to fix the problem you can’t be held accountable for what occurs. large problem there train your hitters and manage and hold players accountable. you can’t allow a losing environment into your clubhouse. on the pitching side again bull pen coach destructive to every reliever in the pen. emphasis on swing and miss wears the pen down ruins the strike zone increases pitch counts. proof is every reliever moves forward and then falters away and eventually off the team time to change the coach. and as a manager surrounded by talent don’t give out superlatives until they earn it
I disagree as I’m always of the mindset that these are grown men being played millions of dollars. They’re the best in the world at what they do. If they need to be coddled in order to perform, they don’t belong in the MLB
@@barreldelphia with all respect you have a job of preparing your hitters. what to expect clearly prep not happening when every player has the same accountability problem chase rate and being behind in counts when there is no accountability you make the entire team at a disadvantage. the facts are they allowed them to lose. the stats say coach them marsh barrel rate rojas and scott defense rate the coaching saying it’s baseball is a cop out and the bull pen is a joke post all star break and definitely last 40 days blew 15 quality starts wheeler nola and sanchez. everything every reliever ruined its coaching period u have to manage period
Topper lost the clubhouse due to the inmates being allowed to run the asylum! Plane and simple, they don’t respect him. Harper being allowed to call the shots, I.e. 6:30 , Jt’s extension, pushing for Trey Turner to be signed, etc. if he wants to be a manager, then retire.
@eddiecam- Wrong!! What about 2007 to 2024?? Your too young apparently to Remember Utley's Corner, when he single-handedly Ruled the Mets!!! 🥎⚾🥎 Hear You tell it!!!!! 😆😆😆☝️
Topper lost the clubhouse due to the inmates being allowed to run the asylum! Plane and simple, they don’t respect him. Harper being allowed to call the shots, I.e. 6:30 , Jt’s extension, pushing for Trey Turner to be signed, etc. if he wants to be a manager, then retire.
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The hot start led to complacency: a feeling of quiet pleasure or security, often while unaware of some potential danger, defect, or the like; self-satisfaction or smug satisfaction with an existing situation, condition, etc.
I don’t think the Phils’ pen blew two leads in a single game all year. Then they imploded in the NLDS. Wild, I never would have suspected it.
Kimbrel may be gone, but you can’t get rid of a gas can like that so easily. Takes some time for the residual to go away.
Braves fan here, Phils had an outstanding season. I'm not a fan of sitting for 5 days then going back out there expecting the bats to be hot. This likely was part of the issue. Not every team is impacted by the layoff the same way but some teams just come out flat after being idle for 5 days. It's happened to us 2 years as well in my opinion. This year we had too many injuries to overcome and the Padres were just better than us with what we out out on the field. Phils will be solid next year as well. Mets have had a nice season too. 2025 division race should be a dandy to watch down to the wire!
I agree but won’t use that as an excuse. That can easily be mitigated by playing a legit all in scrimmage against one of the minor league teams to stay fresh. The Phillies even played a mock game at the stadium prior to the implosion in the nlds
@@jb4054 Phillies are the only team that had a bye and lost. This excuse is so tiring.
@BKDBut They are not the only team since this seeding method was used 2 years ago. Go educate yourself and look at other teams put out 1st round after 5 days off. No other time during the year does a team sit that long except the all star break. If you can't comprehend that it will hurt some teams, then I can't help you. If you read what I put above, I clearly stated it has not impacted ALL teams that way but it's stupid to sit for 5 days that damn long. Period
@@jb4054 Yeah, which means you're looking at a correlation and assuming it's causation. Your brain seems to not be able to comprehend the idea of a top seed losing to a low seed in baseball
I assume this helps you with your Braves choking
@BKDBut No, it's happened multiple times, actually, and common sense says it's worth the conversation. Braves had historic offense 2023 and you think they forgot how to hit in 1st round vs a team they won the season series from in addition? The Phils had a very good offense this year also and not much hitting overall. Don't sit here and tell me sitting for 5 days has nothing to do with it. All teams should be playing within 2 to 3 days of season ending at the most period. A longer break than the all star break gives is asinine. Period
Zach Wheeler said it best right after the London series: "not sure what it was, but something changed in the clubhouse".
I have always been an opponent of MLB teams playing outside of North America, and we really seen a decline with our Phils, when they went to London.
We were *fucking* absolutely dominating baseball before that series, and basically became a .500 team after that series. While I don't think we were going to play .680 ball all year long, something changed drastically from that series, and it did not go in our favor.
The Mets did the opposite after London. Dont know how both teams changed course. I'm also not a fan of these games not played in NA.
@@RSKindredI agree, both teams went in opposite directions and that series can definitely be pointed to those reasons.
To our beloved Phillies and to all Philly fans; far and wide, paid and unpaid,
A humbling experience(s) and starting over is not necessarily a bad thing. WE have the wherewithal to go all the way! WE can do this!
A shout-out is well deserved to all of the most marvelous hometown commentators this side of the Mississippi! You are a valuable team, as well. Thank you sooooo very much! These games would not be half as enjoyable without your expertise, insight and loyalty to the thrilling game of baseball and for our beloved Phillies, of that I am certain.
I am one with a fresh set of eyes. Quite frankly, I could never understand the zeal fans possess in rooting for their favorite sports' team. Now within the past few months, I have become one of those fascinated fans; i.e., yelling at the TV and at the same time reassuring my 'kids' that they didn't do anything wrong. I'm simply watching the Phillies play.
Please forgive my naivete. I haven't been around long enough to develop a tainted view of the whole picture. All I see is the ENORMOUS TALENT and the GENUINE CAMARADERIE within the Phillies team which is not to be taken for granted. Let's take heed of the lessons learned, and let go of the past in order to move forward to be victorious; one game at a time. WE can do this!!
Thank you for reading to the end. Actually, this is not the end but the BEGINNING of a NEW ERA for our beloved Phillies!
Love you! Thank you to each and everyone of you in whatever capacity you may hold or wish to hold; for all of your hard work and/or dedication in experiencing the wonderful, exciting world of baseball.
The following is an excerpt from 'Daily Prayers for Strength':
Dear God,
Thank You for bringing us a new day filled with hope, potential and ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES.
Please help us to overcome the negative thoughts or behaviors that hinder our progress. Did I mention that WE can do this?!!
P.P.S. As previously stated, I am a novice. Casty is my favorite player. Don't boo him again! And, the Phillies don't suck. Like what's wrong witchyou.
Like Kody Clemens says...
LET'S GO!!!
You did not take this loss very well
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Awful, awful ending to the season - this was THE chance. Next year, the Braves will have their studs back from the IL and the Mets will have Soto (and perhaps more). The divisional crown was a GIFT this year and they pissed it away.
If Soto leaves the Yankees, he goes to the Dodgers.
@@gregoryfarshtey6856 Mets have a richer owner and $170mm+ coming off the books. The biggest offer is coming from Queens. Only question is whether he takes it.
@@gregoryfarshtey6856 It's funny that you think that. Soto isn't taking 95% of his money deferred. The Yankees are the competition. But between Judge and Cole, that's what, over $70 mil for 2 players. Judge is also an OF, their top prospect, Jasson Dominguez, is an OF, and if Spencer Jones was rated as a top 5 tool prospect last year, also an OF. Does it make sense to spend another 45+/ year on an OF when they have options, but have no 2B, no 3B, no 1B, and will need to retool the SP?
@@gregoryfarshtey6856Meanwhile for the Mets, RF and SP are THE places to spend over $100 mil, and that's just to stay under the tax
I disagree. 2022 was the chance and they blew it.
the mets is what happend
That’s fair - the Mets definitely deserve credit
HELL YEAH
Should of started with that vid over 😂😂
Your comments are brutally honest which is why I appreciate this post. As a Philly fan who was invested in all 162 games regular season, plus the post season few before their collapse, I am worried about their future.
Rob Thomson is NOT to blame; all blame rests on the sluggers for swinging at balls outside of the strike zone.
What happened to this team that actually made it to their goal of the NLDS?
It is very disappointing.
Read my comment above☝️☝️☝️ after all-star break they fell apart!! And I've been diehard Fan since 1976!!!!! 😢
He absolutely shares some of the blame. These bums looked unmotivated for most of the series, outside of Harper and Casty. Bohm was especially disgusting.
Stay away from overpaid stars, and build from within. Our only championships have come with homegrown players. Stars don't guarantee championships, and definitely, not long-term.
What happened? The uppity PHILLIES and their uppity fans had to be humbled, and the METS humbled them. THE GOOD LORD SURE WORKS IN MISTERIOUS WAYS!!!
Team is old, they are in the process of a slow death.
That locker room is fractured. There was a turning point. Maybe the London Series. My theory is the Seranthony/Pache trade upset a lot of guys in the lockerroom. Not only are you trading away a key veteran loved by the team from the WS run, we're getting scraps in return. Just a terrible trade, terrible decision, none of the players liked it. Trading away a solid bullpen guy like that put doubts in the rest of the pen and considering we're talking about freaking JEFF HOFFMAN and MATT STRAHAM, I'm not surprised they went back down to Earth. This team SUCKS.
Too many frat boy/MAGA types on the team. They gotta bring in a black dude w swag, look what Chisholm has done for the Yankees since joining
They need a real leadoff hitter. Preferably a centerfielder who hits. Having a centerfielder who's an automatic out at the plate is a waste of a spot.
2 titles in 140 years is crazyyyyy
Same as the "lolMets"
@@JoseReyes-wn2ul That was my point
@@acelm8437 the Mets haven't been around for 140 years jack
World Series has only existed for 121 years.
@@acelm8437 Yes, the Mets have 2 in 62 years.
The problem was Dombrowski made bad trades and Thompson didn’t manage the team, also he never held the players accountable for not producing.
Maybe they just got fed up with the bipolar fans booing them even when they were scoring 😂😂😂😂
i don't think that was the issue
Braves fan here - seems all of the NL east got off to a great start and faded away except the Mets who got hot at the right time. The Phillies are good, the Braves are good getting out of the NL east is only going to get harder.
It is all about being hot at the right time. Its hard losing when you are expected to win. It was a helluva season
Lol. That's the Braves Mantra every year. Hot. Hot. Cold. It's was a helluva season.
A good team will get you to the postseason and the hottest team will win the postseason. The Phillies are a great team and will be there every year.
Wish the first half Phillies played the second half Mets….Phils need to get a shrewd manager that doesn’t panic after the first inning…and get more contact hitters and not big swing and miss hitters
Look at rhe calender it's not the 1st half Phillies vs. the 2nd half Mets. It's the 1st QUARTER Phillies vs.the 2nd QUARTER Mets. What happened to the Phillies you ask.A better team. THE NEW YORK METS.
Soto would balance out that lineup very well. I think he is exactly what they need, someone who doesn't chase and strikeout, and gets on base. But the only problem is the pricetag and if Middleton wants to dish out that kinda cash
@@parkerkubatov2893 Well said,perfect…We let Chisholm get away…
Phillies found out what Braves fans have dealt w/ the last two years-getting bounced early from the playoffs
At least the braves main core is still young unlike the phillies 😪
But I will tell you this also especially in baseball what I think is starting to mean more than talent is team chemistry. If you look at the Texas Rangers last year or even the Arizona Diamondbacks there’s no way that those two teams were in the top five or six most talented but yet they both made it to the World Series And I look at the Mets right now and I just see a ton of chemistry. It’s like everyone is on the same page in the same chapter and in the same book and whether you like them or not, it’s awesome that comes together for any team, but obviously it’s better if it happens for your team, but I’m beginning to think that talent alone will not get you there.
I agree with you. Team chemistry is undervalued. In the Phillies case I think there are too many individual egos in the club house. To succeed in the post season you need your non-star players to come through and star players to sacrifice their egos to be situational.
I think it’s a mistake to get rid of Bohm because of his NLDS performance. Other star players suffer too. However if he goes I think they can move Castellanos back to 3B, move Harper back to RF and sign Christian Walker to play 1B. Strengthen the BP and I think they’ll be in the mix again in 2025.
Phillies fan since the 60s. the same thing happened to the Phillies that happened to the braves. a week off from playing games. braves got the week off 2 years in a row and the Phillies beat them both times. the plays lose their timing at the plate by the time they get it back. it's too late.
The biggest problem with the Phillies hitters is their absolute inability to adjust their approach. They got off to a red hot start. Major league teams are pretty good. Other team around the league watched video and starting pitching the Phillies out of the zone. Phillies hitters kept swinging at bad pitches for 3 months and were eliminated from the playoffs. They never adjusted to the leagues adjustments. That’s both on the hitting coach and the players. You can be overly aggressive at the plate and the other teams around the league took notice.
They got owned by the Mets. That’s what happened period
Bro that’s ALL I kept thinking! U can argue that on paper their roster bla bla bla…. But at the end of the day it’s what’s on the field not on paper what counts. And the Mets took 3 of 4 games TWICE in 2 weeks!!
That team won 95 games. The only losses here are the fanatic fans. Get over it and be glad you have a team that can win 90 or more games. The playoffs are a corporate scam in sports!
Lol. Love how losers always have an excuse. Phillies suck even when they win 95 games. They just suck. The city sucks. The mayor sucks. The Flyers. The subway. They all suck
Stott had a off season because he wasn't playing every game. look at the difference of him playing. he needs to play every game
Mets and Phillies fans-Stop with this owning business. Of there's any owning being done in the NL East over the last 30 years, it would be the braves.
please see 2007-2011
Add three low k rate hitters. When you put the ball in play something good can happen. Learn how to draw a BB. Steal a base etc etc. Stop over paying for players.
Something happened after that blown second game of the London Series. It's crazy to think that ONE of 162 games could've changed the entire outcome of a season but there was some bad, bad juju after that loss. We basically played .500 ball for the rest of the year and if we had won a SINGLE series during that rough stretch against the Athletics D-bags, and Pirates, the Mets don't make the postseason. Given our cupcake schedule over the last half of the season after the ASB we should've finished with at LEAST 102-105 wins, if not more.
We may never know what has happened in that clubhouse over the last few months but I really feel like these guys just don't like each other, and this team is honestly very unlikable. Once Rhys left it felt like clubhouse chemistry plummeted and it was only being held together because this team was on an unreal tear. But once the losing started and they couldn't get back into it, it looks like they just got complacent and gave up.
Had they just won a SINGLE series over that awful stretch of July 12-21 or August 8-11, the NL playoffs are looking a LOT different this year, and we possibly even see a second NL Central club in the mix, like the Cubs. This year proved how a single series in the middle of the summer can make or break a season by the end.
Phillies depend on power so much. They need to work in better contact.
The Mets happened
And now the Dodgers are happening to the Mets.
@@TSD4027 Clever, question though, did the Mets begin the season as one of the favorites expected to win it all?
@@TSD4027 the series is tied 1-1 at this moment so…
@@MikeN31-yn6os Mets crushed again.
It absolutely is one of the most disappointing seasons in team history, because they were expected to win it all before the season started. They led the division basically since day 1, and played well. They just fell apart.
calling their season just a disappointment is an understatement. it was an embarrassing, gargantuan, monumental flailing of the arms let down. no crowd was more behind their team than phils fans. we had the stadium on the freakin richter scale all season. just for them to be this emotionless bottomless pit of misery at the end. thompson should have turned into the tazmanian devil choke slamming chairs and dugout equipment. instead, he was this passive weasel neutered of any type of masculine energy. he is a high school softball coach, doesnt belong in majors.
The Phillies had a very early strength of schedule that fit in their favor very well. They got out to a quick hot lead in the division. And once they went over to London and came back against the Mets they lost their Mojo. They no longer knew who they were at the plate after that trip to London. I'm also not blaming London this team is fundamentally not a strong baseball team . They don't have the bullpen to be able to go 5 or 6 Innings and in my opinion they don't have the starters who can go truly 5 or 6 Innings outside of Chris wheeler. The Phillies will continue to give us the same thing every single year. As long as all of those dudes are under contract. And we will all eat it up and we'll all show up to the ballpark. What else are we going to do. We love them so much hahaha laughing at My Pain.
If you think this year was a complete failure for the Phillies I wonder what you think about the Chicago White Sox season. I’m not a Phillies fan but to sit here and say that the season was a complete failure. I can’t agree with that and trust me. I hate the Yankees more than anyone else and I do understand with the high payroll these days if you don’t win the World Series, yeah you fell short, but I wouldn’t say it’s a complete failure. The key to success, especially in baseball is to peak at the right time. Unfortunately no one seems to have the right formula for doing that sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn’t.
it dont mean a thing if you dont win that ring.
Maybe Phillies have to go back to basic baseball such as cohesive offensive work including bunts and more stolen bases. It seems that they depend more on homers rather than teamwork.
I think the great first half of the season was a product of a easy schedule.
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The Phillies played well against good teams for the most part though, so that doesn’t really seem to be it
The same thing that happens to all Philadelphia sports teams during the playoffs. They disappear.
Phillies have a cpl players who cost more than Cleveland's entire roster, and look where they are....
Lets Go Mets!!! 🔵🟠⚾️🔵🟠⚾️
OMG!
Dombrowski needs to go . The best moves he has made is trading away some of the garbage he traded for(i.e.Soto). Should of went all in at the deadline.
Not letting Wheeler start the 8th in game one, was a mistake. Hoffman was awful all series. He looked very out of place and uncomfortable. Weird, really.
The Phillies were the 2023 Braves, and the Mets were the 2023 Phillies.
Those series were basically the same exact outcomes. Think about what was the same in each of those scenarios.
#PlayoffFormat
Lemme help you out: It's a long season. Y'all were a .500 team after the break. So, throw out 95 wins and the division title. They mean nothing. There, expectations are now what they should be. The Mets however have been in 5th gear for the past 4.5 months. Though they barely made the playoffs, and expectations were low, they were clearly the better team of the two.
Let’s go Mets
Bryce Harper has a curse when it comes to World Series championships that’s why
Winning the division and winning in the playoffs with that extra time off isn’t so easy is it? :D
I told a,y one who would listen this team was flawed. Defense,depth were major holes. Tre needs to learn to play the OF plus add another. Start grooming a catcher and let Realmuto play only 4 games a week. I’m keeping Bohm fire the hitting coach. Do,t want Bergman Soto won’t happen
Braves will beat them next year 💙
but no WS ring
The Phillies lose in 4 despite Nick Castellanos driving in the winning RBI in the bottom of the 9th in GM 2.
They got off to a great start but ended weak the Mets were the better team
The team the Mets got now has more energy , enthusiasm & are more hungry to win it than the Phillies .
0:33: A ridiculous statement.
What happened to the Fighten' Phil's?? Simple: THEIR NOT THE 2008PHILLIES!!!! In the beginning of the season they were on Fire, after the all-star break they fell Apart!!! SMH 😞😞 And I'm die-hard Philly!!!!! 😢
Here's a great Joke on why the Phillies lose in the playoffs year after year, WHY WERE THE PHILLES ALWAYS SO TIRED IN THE PLAYS---- THEY WERE HITTING THE WRONG BALLS!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Coach Thompson has to learn how to rest these guys.
This is what happens when you meet the Met's on there home field and you think your better then they are! And you can forget about Soto. He'll most likely be a Met or a Yankee
The Phillies and Mets are 269-269 against each other all time when the Mets are the home team.
I can't wait to see the Mets lose. Imagine a fanbase that has to rely on soulless corporate slop like Grimace because their own official mascot sucks.
@@TSD4027 Boy are you not understanding. I'm so glad we eliminated the trash Phillies so we don't need to hear their trash fans at CBP anymore
I feel like them rallying around Grimace is confirmation that they know Mr. Met can't hang with the Phanatic
Those grapes are mighty sour
why not go after soto ? kinda short sighted comment. big money is coming off the books in the next year or two. casty has 2 years left and schwarber is up after this next season, as well as realmuto finishing up his contract. we can absolutely go after soto. let ownership sit in the luxury tax for a year maybe 2 at the most. soto is 26 years old. you bring him in now during his hall of fame prime years. he helps this roster not age so fast with harper and turner. with promising young talents like crawford and aiden miller, we can let bohm walk after next season and crawford fixes our centerfield position finally. both players are on the cheap for a while. we better go after soto. players like him don't grow on trees.
I’d say signing a guy to a 14-year, $500M+ deal is shortsighted. By 2028 they’ll already have $80M tied up between Harper, Turner, & Nola who will all be 35 yrs old. I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s wise to continue to hand out decade plus long, couple hundred million dollar contracts
Weren't they 50-48 in the last 98 games? Hardly a juggernaut.
that's right
I've said all year, the. Phil's need a no
1 closer,it came home to roost in playoffs😅
That’s true and it’s something they’ll have to add this offseason
This is a vibes problem. Not sure what is happening but there's a cancer in the clubhouse
Break up the team.
Typical Phillies fans style; giving zero credit to what the Mets have done since June 3, or what they did against Atlanta in the final innings to make it into the postseason, or what they did in Milwaukee in that 9th inning, or what they did with their comebacks, or the fact that they beat Philly in less than five games both in the postseason and also won 3/4 in their last regular season series. Keep blaming your team, and giving zero credit to the Mets magical season. I’ve read so many comments from the Braves/Brewers/etc and many give credit to the Mets success; but Phillies fans are always so angry…your team is loaded; u just got beat by the team that was playing hotter than you, for about, ya know, the last FOUR MONTHS!! Is it really that surprising?
payback for 2007, but still owe u for 2008, that's next
The Phillies have the worst team history in all of baseball let alone the rest of the teams in shittydelphia
Phillies , Eagles , Sixers , Flyers all horrible.
Where Pittsburgh has much more success.
LGFM the new 2022 Phillies
The METS happened 😂😅😊
Well at least you won't be tortured watching them swing at bad pitches in the dirt and go 4 for 40 again 🤣??
As a Mets fan the division is up for grabs next year
Marlins might win it
I would really disappointed to see Bohm go but I guess I’m in the minority there.
I, for one, would prefer if he was still on the team
Their lineup is an absolute mess. They live and die by the long ball. This happened in 2022, 2023, and now. Stop with the nonsensical Schwarber leadoff.
I don't think Schwarber will get up from the bench if they tell him he's not leading off
you missed the cause it’s poor coaching and worse off the learned excuse of it’s just baseball in sports you never allow a team to learn to lose or allow an era of no accountability. collectively this enabled an environment where hitting coach failed to prepare players for what to expect and allowed scouting reports against his team to define his team. horrific and if you come to work and are allowed to fail repeatedly and aren’t given directions to fix the problem you can’t be held accountable for what occurs. large problem there train your hitters and manage and hold players accountable. you can’t allow a losing environment into your clubhouse. on the pitching side again bull pen coach destructive to every reliever in the pen. emphasis on swing and miss wears the pen down ruins the strike zone increases pitch counts. proof is every reliever moves forward and then falters away and eventually off the team time to change the coach. and as a manager surrounded by talent don’t give out superlatives until they earn it
I disagree as I’m always of the mindset that these are grown men being played millions of dollars. They’re the best in the world at what they do. If they need to be coddled in order to perform, they don’t belong in the MLB
@@barreldelphia with all respect you have a job of preparing your hitters. what to expect clearly prep not happening when every player has the same accountability problem chase rate and being behind in counts when there is no accountability you make the entire team at a disadvantage. the facts are they allowed them to lose. the stats say coach them marsh barrel rate rojas and scott defense rate the coaching saying it’s baseball is a cop out and the bull pen is a joke post all star break and definitely last 40 days blew 15 quality starts wheeler nola and sanchez. everything every reliever ruined its coaching period u have to manage period
90% of both the Mets and Phillies fans here are delusional 😭
That’s how it usually goes
Well the channel creator is delusional, so he kind of attracts them
@@BKDBut i'm delusional but you're the one hawking my comment section
@@barreldelphia And you're the one deleting my comments because I laugh at your team and your terrible fellow fans. Trash
@@barreldelphia Ahahaha you are such a loser. Exactly why you root for the Phillies. Reflection of you. SLAPPED
Alec Bohm saying he won't change after his piss poor performance in that last playoff game IS WILD. Mans was looking all kinds of lost.
The Main problem the Fighten' Phils, had was they partied too much after winning pennant & division!! They Simply lost their Focus!! SMH 😢 😢
The MAGA Phillies😂
They suck that's what happened
The problem ain't the team, ,its the Fans, , the Fans don't deserve a world series,, we're obnoxious and Rude for the most part
ha-ha
Bohm sucks!!!!!!!!
They cant beat the bad a$$ mets thats what happened
Topper lost the clubhouse due to the inmates being allowed to run the asylum!
Plane and simple, they don’t respect him.
Harper being allowed to call the shots, I.e. 6:30 , Jt’s extension, pushing for Trey Turner to be signed, etc. if he wants to be a manager, then retire.
Topper lost the clubhouse due to the inmates being allowed to run the asylum!
Plane and simple, they don’t respect him.
@eddiecam- Wrong!! What about 2007 to 2024?? Your too young apparently to Remember Utley's Corner, when he single-handedly Ruled the Mets!!! 🥎⚾🥎 Hear You tell it!!!!! 😆😆😆☝️
Topper lost the clubhouse due to the inmates being allowed to run the asylum!
Plane and simple, they don’t respect him.
Harper being allowed to call the shots, I.e. 6:30 , Jt’s extension, pushing for Trey Turner to be signed, etc. if he wants to be a manager, then retire.