DO NOT GET HONEY NUT - IT TASTE LIKE OLDSCHOOL PROTIEN POWDER. The rest are good so far. Fruity ones taste the best. Basically like modern protein shakes.
Eh I dunno. There is still a shit load of other pretty big stuff. I'd rather they don't completely scuff everything else up if they need a little more time to let elevators cook.
Honestly ive been in EPTU the past few days and i cant imagine going back to Live until 3.23 releases to Live. The Servers and performance are arguably worse and everything is more buggy but 3.23 is just miles upon miles better than 3.23. The only thing i dont love is MM, but thats because i have yet to get used to it. The rest is just way too MMM
I stopped getting excited about SC announcements and ships about a year ago. I still find announcements interesting and I want the game to succeed and be a juggernaut of space gaming, but I serve myself better mentally by not getting _excited_ over the half-baked mechanics and far-too-regular instability that we currently get. Keep fightin' the good fight, Mike.
SC is the perfect game for Pessimists it makes us feel like we can see into the future when everything turns into the dumpster fire we know it will. And the best part is we are never let down.
Yea man I feel ya, it’s also embarrassing when my family has to hear me say out loud from the office “why do I still play this gameeeeeeeee” or “just stop playing it’s easy”. It’s like a drug you can’t put down, maybe it’s the weevil babies corroding my brain who knows lol
@@danhtown1 Likely a mix of sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome. Star Citizens want the game to succeed no matter how long it takes, and can't drop the project because they invested heavily/financially into it. It's okay to admit there's a problem. We're all in the same boat.
We all knew that CIG was being overly ambitious with 3.23 and things were inevitably going to get bumped/cut. No cargo lift and personal hangars is a HUGE bummer for me.
Legit, if I can't put my carrier ship in dead space and hop in a fighter and quantum to and from it with either a default ship location marker or one I have to put down then I can't live out of a ship
they didn't increase the inferno ammo, it went from 3800 down to 2100. when they say greatly increased it meant from the 900 that was originally on a build, then got doubled to 1800, then hotfixed to 2100.
@@BGIANAKy need DCs and base building really bad, and more depth to the settlements would be nice too, give you a reason to actually go to those places
One unannounced thing to keep an eye on is that they are rebalancing fuel tanks and efficiency across all ships it seems. Some of the changes are... interesting.
@@SaltEMike Yeah looks like they’re changing main vs mav thrusters and using archetypes to adjust it. LFs going from 583 qt fuel to 671, and most ships overall efficiency going down. Some “exploration” ships not getting much extra fuel though and some none at all… check out spviewer they got the data mined.
I have to agree with your doubts. I've been saying since the beginning that they'll never get all those things into 3.23.. even a month after originally planned. We hope for the best, but know the history.
its not a month after initially planned, they always shoot for a mid april release on q1 due to holiday bleed into January. a month late would be damn near invictus
I'm concerned master modes is going to be a major problem. And if there is nothing else but HUD and master modes and maybe a new location in the game that kinda sucks for a patch after all this hype. Oh and the character creator which is mid.
Character creator is pointless without in-game cutscenes/video calls to use them in. I'd rather they fix the 5 server fps that fucks with all gameplay and server-wide events.
Sinks? Yes. But even more important is to stop giving us so much money all the time for everything. Move a decimal left on every payout and commodity so instead of everyone making millions upon millions we make thousands upon thousands.
For those of us that don't do significant group play and/or illegal missions, the answer isn't so simple. The word economy means complicated. Simplistic takes like this are insensible.
@@TheGavric It's perfectly sensible. More sensible than painstaking line-by-line intentional arbitrary inflation anyway. Group and criminal play are supposed to pay more. It makes sense. Simple but effective... for the short term, as a stopgap, which is all we can hope for with SC.
3.23 is going to be a really great content-filled patch that we can't enjoy to it's fullest because of the server tick rates. None of this matters until they can break up the game into smaller chunks to alleviate the pressure on the server.
Fuck new ships with no fleshed out gameplay loops for them. Even the Reclaimer is still very barebones to what it's supposed to be able to do. Worse still, they removed the Claw and replaced it with a 1 button vacuum head that only looks like a Claw. Some backers tolerate it, because it's still relatively easy to print millions of aUEC with it. I bet once CIG "balances" it with other industry game loops, more backers would realize how shitty it actually is. There's a reason Mike still calls the game a tech demo. It's multiple v.0.1 features duck-taped together in a sandbox solar system.
@@SaltEMike I don't understand why creators always play the devil's advocate like this. SC players have invested probably in average a couple hundred of dollars for this game, and when you play apologetics like this it does nothing except embolden companies and encourage them to keep up the same anti consumer practices, particularly when hangers p much come with every ship you buy explicitly.
I'd manage expectations around cargo. They not-so-long-ago clarified that when they say X will be in patch 2.23, that includes sub-patches. That means 2.23.k is a valid target to them.
It is not their current target, and yes I am 100% fine waiting longer as we have waited FOREVER at this point right? But I gotta say I had some high expectations for them, even if they were simple and them not being in the first patch at all when they have been worked on techinically since 2018...and the subject of MULTIPLE ISC's at this point...I can be sad, or frustrated that I have to continue to play without the gameplay I enjoy.
Great update! I've been testing the 3.23 patch since wave 1. I love the new EVA. I'm finding some odd phasing through ships and hangars. I'm really looking forward to the new cargo system and elevators-it would be great to see them not get delayed. The instanced hangars and economic changes are exciting (we need big money sinks). It's a bit disappointing to think that some features might be pushed to later updates, but given where we are, I think we should prepare for it. o7
They said they're doing preproduction for base building, which means exactly that: *pre-* production. That means designs, metrics, concept art, plans, planning, meetings, more meetings, planning production schedules, syncing with other teams involved in those production schedules, revising schedules and having more meetings, realizing some metrics don't work and some new concept art is commissioned, etc, etc. It means they'll be doing other preproduction stuff, and you shouldn't expect any of what laypeople would rudely (and reductively) refer to as "real work" happening anytime soon, giving preproduction is itself a very non-trivial and altogether very complex and very necessary phase of development. It is arguably the most important phase, too, given it is, y'know, *literally the planning and concepting and designing phase.* It means they're in the middle *of designing and revising and refining and discussing* the game design around base building, they're not doing much if any "real" coding for it yet. (Again, this is all very important and the fact that it isn't a few dozen guys doing coding shouldn't detract, but my point is this: developing that shit's going to take a while, and the fact they're doing preproduction now does not mean that their work on base building is advanced in any way. *Quite the opposite,* the work has by definition only just begun to be planned in any real, specific detail.) PS: You can probably safely assume, though, that the Economy team producing full (internal) graphs for their planned economy generators/transformers/sinks is work that was required by the base building preproduction planners, and Economy designers/producers will definitely be involved heavily in the preproduction for base building (far more than they will in actual production, until it's done and enters post-production and enters their jurisdiction to control the final economy design lol).
I don't plan on playing again until the end of the year. I know if I jump in now I'll be frustrated by the state of the game, so it's better to wait. I do worry that Star Citizen focuses too much on "realism" and misses making things fun.
@@SpaceDad42 haha, it can be realistic and fun. But Star citizen has a history of being clunky and having overly complicated systems for simple tasks. I’ve been playing PC games since the early 90’s so I think I’ll continue thanks. But if you feel the need to be a fanboy and defend Star Citizens honour then go ahead.
Idk if they've stated otherwise but I think the instanced elevators are only the home location. I think this first implementation will only be seen by most people once - when they leave the planet to change their spawn to stations.
You can't play 3.23 for enjoyment. SC is a game that is primarily about space flight, it's about _flying space ships._ *_For fun._* And if you are flying an S3-S4 ships, Master Mode fucks you and makes your ships *un-fun* to fly. The 600i now has the same flight characteristics as the Hull-C. The fucking Hull-C? And the 400i has the same flight characteristics as the Corsair? Bullshit. As far as I can see from looking at the numbers, light fighters are the only class of ship that _didn't_ get fucked. And the Freelancers, because they're apparently too old to notice. 🤣 So when 3.23 launches, I'll be ignoring the last decade of ships and just flying my Kickstarter Freelancer MIS and my 325a.
Cargo or bust. What else do I have to look forward to? EVA? Haven't seen a mission for animals yet in PTU/EPTU, but I've been trying forever. Never engaged with overdrive because the rewards were buyable only till what... wave 3? It's pretty pitiful. This company has a long way to go until it's an "MMO" as much as I really want that.
Cargo Elevators 3.23.0? I'd like to be positively surprised if it _does_ get dropped into 3.23.0 sometime during EPTU / PTU ... but ... ... based on _who_ in CIG is working on this, history suggests it's going to be late. Initial Cargo Refactor delivery kept getting delayed. Same team. - Doubtless, with initial Cargo Refactor they hit sticky technical issues with PES implementation and the underlying rework of just about everything - Maybe the team have hit similar technical hurdles with the Cargo Elevators; If/when persistent hangars does get released, it will be interesting to see how new workpieces done by members of the dearly departed USPU team track whilst under their new overlords in the NAPU team.
I’m very unhappy with master modes. It’s awful! It feels broken. The EPTU is unplayable atm. If we lose cargo and hangers for 3.23, it’ll be a big letdown for me.
Didn’t they say base building by Q1 during citizencon? Lol starcitizen is so boring and buggy terrible combo! Haven’t played in months and all the missions are the same boring loops even the overdrive mission! I’d probably play again if they’d make a single piloted mining ship … not the prospector… and the size of the mole! Size 2 or 3 anything!
Always enjoyed your videos as I feel they reflect the reality of how this project is actually progressing. Basically putting a comment here as I can't believe no one has been honest about how the Xeno threat missions have really been. According to ISC the missions were a great success, c'mon who is kidding who - the missions were pretty buggy, especially the box mission that took me several attempts and 6 hours to complete. Whilst the first set of missions were fun it's only on a server running at 15fps or higher that gives you a real experience. In AUS servers we are lucky to see between 5 and 10 fps. If you could do a reaction video of ISC with the actual in game footage showing the difference I'd send a like hehe
Due to it size and the significant changes, I've always been of the opinion that 3.23.0 should be an ILW patch. Unfortunately they may cut something big like hangars or cargo to get it out sooner, which is rather unfortunate because that's what I'm looking forward to the most. It'll be what it'll be though of course.
Everyones hyping this patch but for me its been ass, log in issues , unable to hop servers and join friends, cannot ROC mine , contracts seemto bug out on servers after a while, getting blown up randomly, getting trespassing when i have a mission at a bunker , alongside the usual bugs as well. Most the “new” features are just ports from SQ42 , again again and again CIG always fail to meet expectations . Missions are shocking and all they give us are new. “depo buildings” that are just huge buildings with not alot gong on inside and are bug infestations .
1week for XT final fight, 1week for XT phase5. which means they only have exact one month before 3.23 release, unless they decided to delay Invictus but i look forward to ship building progress. hope to see galaxy come true this year so i can finally have my all in one ship and try to live alone in the wild
Super keen for 3.23. I really hope they get personal hangers in. Currently can't play due to 30ks every login 2 mins in, hopefully a few stability fixes sprinkled amongst the features 😂
Honestly, as a primarily combat pilot who fresh starts every time with nothing but my fighter, hearing that every other ship I want to add to my hangar will now cost me millions more kinda sucks. Like how many hundreds of VHRT’s does it take to buy a vanguard now?
As far as the EPTU it is obvious that the master modes had no consideration for the industrial ship game play, seems “ok” for committed combat like PvP were you’re not going to run away, but any situation that you might need to try and run, say a reclaimer crew wanting to leave a salvage op because they see pirates coming in might as well get use to the idea of either being boarded or destroyed since it will take nearly a minute, with no shields, to switch, spool, and jump. That is more then enough time for a ship already in SCM to target and disable the ship before it can get away since precision targeting allows you to aim at the QD and take it out
Im very concerned about the basic functions being operational in 3.23, especially since something as basic as a shuttle to the space port has a 10% success rate. It really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence with the instability of the build when I can't test the things they want tested because basic functions don't work.
I really want the cargo in too, but honestly would prfer them to wait untill they have updated ships like the Cat to a gold standard. why are we implimenting features with ships in game that wont be able to enjoy the features 100%. they should be working on these two things together. sorry just a salty cat owner
over promise and under deliver as usual. Maybe wait end of this year before dipping in again. Havent played proper since 3.14 and see CIG doing the usual again.
Happy with the new features overall and we still have some time to go, but the lack of communication regarding cargo is a bit concerning especially with how much CIG has talked about it leading up to 3.23. Now it seems they have gone radio silent on cargo. If it gets pushed to a .1 patch then so be it but some communication on it would go a long way.
All i need to see if the bloody starmap and ability to put wp down i can quantum to with stability then i would be happy.....but as usual its going to probably be a very buggy year with very little new.....but hey hopefully im wrong
I honestly trust your judgement on what info to share in WiR. It's the only thing I follow regularly because it's neither too much nor too little since the beginning. And since then it only got better in value and quality so keep doing what you do ❤
i like most of the stuff in 3.23 but flying not as fun anymore i really dont like that when you put landing gear down drops your speed to 30 so you can't slide and more and now easy kill for any one this might make me leave could change but right now might put it down for good
Great video! In my opinion, I don't think 3.23 will make it to its "Q1 Patch" if they still plan to have everything they said that was going to be in 3.23. To me, its either a delay or they are cutting features to make it "on time." I hope I'm wrong...
I wont play the entirety of 3.23 if cargo elevators arent in. The rest of the game is the same ole same ole. And the star map should be a priority. The inability to set routes in most cases is just out of this world. A space game that you cant navigate space.
i hope that the cargo missions also include prisoner transport for dedicated ships that can support it like the cuttly blue/hawk (and later the Zeus). it will be cool to give the cages some purpose.
they need to set something up so players can pick up other players Cargo as a contract for money there is nothing an no plans we hear aboudt pls ask aboudt it. it will helps miners out an so on so you can try a prober game play for miners an epople that want to move stuff from A to B but they dont own a transport craft so they can hire players for this.
The one time I saw the last mission for Xeno doing the delivery, the person that got the mission then shared it out to everyone who asked and it cleared out a large portion of the server pop that had been waiting a long time for the mission to show up again.
1:25 "only 140calories per serving" - with 35g serving size it means 420calories per 100g which is slightly more calories than in 100g of pure sugar - 387cal ))
Can they finally increase ballistic ammo for ships ffs. I want to run ballistic guns so badly bad the amount of ammo is WAY to low, add more ammo and the option to reload or something. Its ridicolous.
900 years into the future and they can't figure out reloading of ammo from the ship's cargo grid. It's like we got stuck with California/NY rifle magazine laws but for all ship combat. lol
Honestly, I didn't expect the Zeus until next October. As for the Legionnaire, I know they were talking once about boarding derelict space stations and stuff like that with it too - at the end of the day, it's also a drop ship. Sure the hacking computer and nose-bridge are the marquis features, but dropping a squad into a battlezone is still viable with it too so I think it will find some use. I'm a bit surprised though; I thought we'd have a lot more stuff in by now - for example, weren't the G12s supposed to be in last Christmas? Anyway, don't stress too much Mike, it will be ready when it's ready. Thanks for the video o7
I'll be very disappointed if cargo/hangars does not make it to 3.23. It feels like that was originally the main reason for 3.23, now it's just a UI update patch :(
I haven't played a patch in over a year. Probably not going to play this one now that cargo isn't in it. Hopefully 3.24 will have it and I'll try it out..... or maybe I'll just keep waiting till 4.0 or a better rep system.
There are two versions of the new launcher, the RC, which installs separately to the old launcher, and a direct replacement official release version of the new launcher, which does replace the old launcher. Most folks should be installing the latter.
As it has been for the last 12 years... No, SC does not live up to the hype, they have never lived up to the hype, they likely never will live up to the hype. Stop giving them money
Feeling quite worried too. I was also super hyped for the cargo and hanger stuff. But I also expected more from the distribution zones. Quite disappointed that there is like no content there. The best things about the patch are now quality of life things, which dont get me wrong, is sorely needed and super excited for them, but there is basically nothing new to do at this stage
Yeah I. Still worried about the phase 3 completion, have sent a ticket in yeaterday but cig has not replied as of 20.30 today.... Worried as bought into the MK2 as had a super H.
It tanked when they brought in PES, like every game that's brought in persistence. It will again. They should make PU the PPTU, because PU will always be a different beast and a test in itself. Imagine how empty it would be if we only had stuff that worked 100%. I just want it delivered roughly on time, and the features and additions working by 3.30 ( as they'll be broke by 3.40 =P ). But I'm really exited for engineering, knowing it's going to annoy me how buggy it will be as we are all fail to curb our enthusiasm at times.
@@SaltEMike lol, bro I’m close to 60 and just have a different perspective. I appreciate your passion but do you spend as much time with your wife as you do with Star Citizen? I’m not a priest or a therapist but she needs you more than us. Just an old man sharing because I can. Ban me if you want. I’ve been listening to you for 7 years dude. You’re achieving great things especially after the LevelCap stream. Love him too. Im sincerely happy for your growth and you don’t need me to lecture you but as someone who’s put career over family I’m admonishing you to take a step back and love that which is most important. I see you taking the time for family and that’s great but you say it with some form of regret and apology. Please don’t do that. You have skill as an entertainer and your opinions have won you fame. I’m just the sorry old man warning you to maintain the main thing. No shade meant but obviously I touched a nerve. You have a huge influence on this community and I want you to thrive but not at the expense of your wife and family. Sermon over. I hope no hard feelings.
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IMHO no cargo elevators would kill the momentum 3.23 has garnered thus far. o7
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Eh I dunno. There is still a shit load of other pretty big stuff. I'd rather they don't completely scuff everything else up if they need a little more time to let elevators cook.
Your opinion is objectively correct.
Honestly ive been in EPTU the past few days
and i cant imagine going back to Live until 3.23 releases to Live. The Servers and performance are arguably worse and everything is more buggy but 3.23 is just miles upon miles better than 3.23. The only thing i dont love is MM, but thats because i have yet to get used to it. The rest is just way too MMM
I dunno, sounds like Master Modes is killing that momentum all by itself just fine.
I stopped getting excited about SC announcements and ships about a year ago. I still find announcements interesting and I want the game to succeed and be a juggernaut of space gaming, but I serve myself better mentally by not getting _excited_ over the half-baked mechanics and far-too-regular instability that we currently get. Keep fightin' the good fight, Mike.
SC is the perfect game for Pessimists it makes us feel like we can see into the future when everything turns into the dumpster fire we know it will. And the best part is we are never let down.
Yea man I feel ya, it’s also embarrassing when my family has to hear me say out loud from the office “why do I still play this gameeeeeeeee” or “just stop playing it’s easy”. It’s like a drug you can’t put down, maybe it’s the weevil babies corroding my brain who knows lol
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@@danhtown1 Likely a mix of sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome. Star Citizens want the game to succeed no matter how long it takes, and can't drop the project because they invested heavily/financially into it. It's okay to admit there's a problem. We're all in the same boat.
We all knew that CIG was being overly ambitious with 3.23 and things were inevitably going to get bumped/cut. No cargo lift and personal hangars is a HUGE bummer for me.
Comparing it to past patches, it's still pretty impressive what's already in Wave 1 though! But I agree, no hangars sucks :(
Cargo elevators, and STARMAP markers were my most anticipated part of 3.23... different year same story :(
Legit, if I can't put my carrier ship in dead space and hop in a fighter and quantum to and from it with either a default ship location marker or one I have to put down then I can't live out of a ship
Instanced hangars was the #1 thing I was looking forward to, Im scared :(
they didn't increase the inferno ammo, it went from 3800 down to 2100. when they say greatly increased it meant from the 900 that was originally on a build, then got doubled to 1800, then hotfixed to 2100.
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All the current game loops are boring now and have no depth. We need a major update soon
Features come in. Depth comes later. Then polish.
Problem with SC is that the open devoplemnt forces CIG to polish in between all of it. 😊
@@BGIANAKy need DCs and base building really bad, and more depth to the settlements would be nice too, give you a reason to actually go to those places
Its bc we are still a tech demo not an true alpha
Yeah it’s so stale and boring, I can’t play for more than like an hour before I’m bored outta my mind 😂
@@Nitrox_909 distribution center
Yea economy changes and cargo / hauling mission will be a gamechanger for many fellow traders
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We will be lucky to have a stable playable 3.23 before they stop working for Christmas break. Prove me wrong! o7 ☹
If we do it will have like one feature lol
One unannounced thing to keep an eye on is that they are rebalancing fuel tanks and efficiency across all ships it seems. Some of the changes are... interesting.
Oh for real? Tell me more!
@@SaltEMike Yeah looks like they’re changing main vs mav thrusters and using archetypes to adjust it. LFs going from 583 qt fuel to 671, and most ships overall efficiency going down. Some “exploration” ships not getting much extra fuel though and some none at all… check out spviewer they got the data mined.
I have to agree with your doubts. I've been saying since the beginning that they'll never get all those things into 3.23.. even a month after originally planned. We hope for the best, but know the history.
its not a month after initially planned, they always shoot for a mid april release on q1 due to holiday bleed into January. a month late would be damn near invictus
I'm concerned master modes is going to be a major problem. And if there is nothing else but HUD and master modes and maybe a new location in the game that kinda sucks for a patch after all this hype. Oh and the character creator which is mid.
Character creator is pointless without in-game cutscenes/video calls to use them in. I'd rather they fix the 5 server fps that fucks with all gameplay and server-wide events.
All I want is the star map and DLSS
Sinks? Yes. But even more important is to stop giving us so much money all the time for everything. Move a decimal left on every payout and commodity so instead of everyone making millions upon millions we make thousands upon thousands.
For those of us that don't do significant group play and/or illegal missions, the answer isn't so simple. The word economy means complicated. Simplistic takes like this are insensible.
@@TheGavric It's perfectly sensible. More sensible than painstaking line-by-line intentional arbitrary inflation anyway. Group and criminal play are supposed to pay more. It makes sense. Simple but effective... for the short term, as a stopgap, which is all we can hope for with SC.
3.23 is going to be a really great content-filled patch that we can't enjoy to it's fullest because of the server tick rates. None of this matters until they can break up the game into smaller chunks to alleviate the pressure on the server.
Doesn't the game already have server meshing or is the server meshing on a separate testing branch?
@@kajmak64bit76 not until 4.0 which will include pyro
@@XxZombie6PackXx so not for a LOMG TIME.
I must say i could care less about new ships . . . they just don't matter anymore.
Fuck new ships with no fleshed out gameplay loops for them. Even the Reclaimer is still very barebones to what it's supposed to be able to do. Worse still, they removed the Claw and replaced it with a 1 button vacuum head that only looks like a Claw. Some backers tolerate it, because it's still relatively easy to print millions of aUEC with it. I bet once CIG "balances" it with other industry game loops, more backers would realize how shitty it actually is. There's a reason Mike still calls the game a tech demo. It's multiple v.0.1 features duck-taped together in a sandbox solar system.
CIG has gotten way too comfortable lionizing incremental updates. We didn't back 3.23, we backed 1.0
Mostly looks good, but I’m very concerned about cargo elevators that features importance can’t be understated.
Yes, but because they are so important...we want them good.
@@SaltEMike I don't understand why creators always play the devil's advocate like this. SC players have invested probably in average a couple hundred of dollars for this game, and when you play apologetics like this it does nothing except embolden companies and encourage them to keep up the same anti consumer practices, particularly when hangers p much come with every ship you buy explicitly.
What if cig had put the Cargo elevators in 1st? No one would be doing testing of anything else for months :)
I start worrying if hangers aren't in by the end of April, still plenty of time for them to add it in my opinion.
bro alwyays complaining
Performance is the biggest PROBLEM rn. Its a real issue
economy is pointless, we need dynamic economy not little and useless changes for an alpha game.
I like the quality of your vids. Looking good!
I'd manage expectations around cargo. They not-so-long-ago clarified that when they say X will be in patch 2.23, that includes sub-patches. That means 2.23.k is a valid target to them.
It is not their current target, and yes I am 100% fine waiting longer as we have waited FOREVER at this point right? But I gotta say I had some high expectations for them, even if they were simple and them not being in the first patch at all when they have been worked on techinically since 2018...and the subject of MULTIPLE ISC's at this point...I can be sad, or frustrated that I have to continue to play without the gameplay I enjoy.
Great update! I've been testing the 3.23 patch since wave 1. I love the new EVA. I'm finding some odd phasing through ships and hangars. I'm really looking forward to the new cargo system and elevators-it would be great to see them not get delayed. The instanced hangars and economic changes are exciting (we need big money sinks). It's a bit disappointing to think that some features might be pushed to later updates, but given where we are, I think we should prepare for it. o7
For days of trying and still supply mission on the list to do.
They said they're doing preproduction for base building, which means exactly that: *pre-* production. That means designs, metrics, concept art, plans, planning, meetings, more meetings, planning production schedules, syncing with other teams involved in those production schedules, revising schedules and having more meetings, realizing some metrics don't work and some new concept art is commissioned, etc, etc. It means they'll be doing other preproduction stuff, and you shouldn't expect any of what laypeople would rudely (and reductively) refer to as "real work" happening anytime soon, giving preproduction is itself a very non-trivial and altogether very complex and very necessary phase of development. It is arguably the most important phase, too, given it is, y'know, *literally the planning and concepting and designing phase.* It means they're in the middle *of designing and revising and refining and discussing* the game design around base building, they're not doing much if any "real" coding for it yet. (Again, this is all very important and the fact that it isn't a few dozen guys doing coding shouldn't detract, but my point is this: developing that shit's going to take a while, and the fact they're doing preproduction now does not mean that their work on base building is advanced in any way. *Quite the opposite,* the work has by definition only just begun to be planned in any real, specific detail.)
PS: You can probably safely assume, though, that the Economy team producing full (internal) graphs for their planned economy generators/transformers/sinks is work that was required by the base building preproduction planners, and Economy designers/producers will definitely be involved heavily in the preproduction for base building (far more than they will in actual production, until it's done and enters post-production and enters their jurisdiction to control the final economy design lol).
I don't plan on playing again until the end of the year. I know if I jump in now I'll be frustrated by the state of the game, so it's better to wait. I do worry that Star Citizen focuses too much on "realism" and misses making things fun.
Stay on your console, kiddo. It isn’t real enough.
@@SpaceDad42 haha, it can be realistic and fun. But Star citizen has a history of being clunky and having overly complicated systems for simple tasks.
I’ve been playing PC games since the early 90’s so I think I’ll continue thanks. But if you feel the need to be a fanboy and defend Star Citizens honour then go ahead.
Idk if they've stated otherwise but I think the instanced elevators are only the home location. I think this first implementation will only be seen by most people once - when they leave the planet to change their spawn to stations.
You can't play 3.23 for enjoyment. SC is a game that is primarily about space flight, it's about _flying space ships._ *_For fun._* And if you are flying an S3-S4 ships, Master Mode fucks you and makes your ships *un-fun* to fly. The 600i now has the same flight characteristics as the Hull-C. The fucking Hull-C? And the 400i has the same flight characteristics as the Corsair? Bullshit. As far as I can see from looking at the numbers, light fighters are the only class of ship that _didn't_ get fucked. And the Freelancers, because they're apparently too old to notice. 🤣 So when 3.23 launches, I'll be ignoring the last decade of ships and just flying my Kickstarter Freelancer MIS and my 325a.
Cargo or bust. What else do I have to look forward to? EVA? Haven't seen a mission for animals yet in PTU/EPTU, but I've been trying forever. Never engaged with overdrive because the rewards were buyable only till what... wave 3?
It's pretty pitiful.
This company has a long way to go until it's an "MMO" as much as I really want that.
Cargo Elevators 3.23.0? I'd like to be positively surprised if it _does_ get dropped into 3.23.0 sometime during EPTU / PTU ... but ...
... based on _who_ in CIG is working on this, history suggests it's going to be late.
Initial Cargo Refactor delivery kept getting delayed. Same team.
- Doubtless, with initial Cargo Refactor they hit sticky technical issues with PES implementation and the underlying rework of just about everything
- Maybe the team have hit similar technical hurdles with the Cargo Elevators;
If/when persistent hangars does get released, it will be interesting to see how new workpieces done by members of the dearly departed USPU team track whilst under their new overlords in the NAPU team.
I’m very unhappy with master modes. It’s awful! It feels broken. The EPTU is unplayable atm. If we lose cargo and hangers for 3.23, it’ll be a big letdown for me.
Didn’t they say base building by Q1 during citizencon? Lol starcitizen is so boring and buggy terrible combo! Haven’t played in months and all the missions are the same boring loops even the overdrive mission! I’d probably play again if they’d make a single piloted mining ship
… not the prospector…
and the size of the mole! Size 2 or 3 anything!
Always enjoyed your videos as I feel they reflect the reality of how this project is actually progressing. Basically putting a comment here as I can't believe no one has been honest about how the Xeno threat missions have really been. According to ISC the missions were a great success, c'mon who is kidding who - the missions were pretty buggy, especially the box mission that took me several attempts and 6 hours to complete. Whilst the first set of missions were fun it's only on a server running at 15fps or higher that gives you a real experience. In AUS servers we are lucky to see between 5 and 10 fps. If you could do a reaction video of ISC with the actual in game footage showing the difference I'd send a like hehe
Due to it size and the significant changes, I've always been of the opinion that 3.23.0 should be an ILW patch. Unfortunately they may cut something big like hangars or cargo to get it out sooner, which is rather unfortunate because that's what I'm looking forward to the most. It'll be what it'll be though of course.
Everyones hyping this patch but for me its been ass, log in issues , unable to hop servers and join friends, cannot ROC mine , contracts seemto bug out on servers after a while, getting blown up randomly, getting trespassing when i have a mission at a bunker , alongside the usual bugs as well. Most the “new” features are just ports from SQ42 , again again and again CIG always fail to meet expectations . Missions are shocking and all they give us are new. “depo buildings” that are just huge buildings with not alot gong on inside and are bug infestations .
1week for XT final fight, 1week for XT phase5. which means they only have exact one month before 3.23 release, unless they decided to delay Invictus
but i look forward to ship building progress. hope to see galaxy come true this year so i can finally have my all in one ship and try to live alone in the wild
Super keen for 3.23. I really hope they get personal hangers in. Currently can't play due to 30ks every login 2 mins in, hopefully a few stability fixes sprinkled amongst the features 😂
OH come on,k it's not like they haven't clubbed every player into submission already. The Star Citizen community is the "Excuse Community"
Honestly, as a primarily combat pilot who fresh starts every time with nothing but my fighter, hearing that every other ship I want to add to my hangar will now cost me millions more kinda sucks. Like how many hundreds of VHRT’s does it take to buy a vanguard now?
As far as the EPTU it is obvious that the master modes had no consideration for the industrial ship game play, seems “ok” for committed combat like PvP were you’re not going to run away, but any situation that you might need to try and run, say a reclaimer crew wanting to leave a salvage op because they see pirates coming in might as well get use to the idea of either being boarded or destroyed since it will take nearly a minute, with no shields, to switch, spool, and jump. That is more then enough time for a ship already in SCM to target and disable the ship before it can get away since precision targeting allows you to aim at the QD and take it out
Im very concerned about the basic functions being operational in 3.23, especially since something as basic as a shuttle to the space port has a 10% success rate. It really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence with the instability of the build when I can't test the things they want tested because basic functions don't work.
I think ship development is too slow, at least for medium to small ships. Why it takes a year plus time for a ship the size of the Zeus is beyond me.
I really want the cargo in too, but honestly would prfer them to wait untill they have updated ships like the Cat to a gold standard. why are we implimenting features with ships in game that wont be able to enjoy the features 100%. they should be working on these two things together.
sorry just a salty cat owner
un playable pos right now. gonna be so broken on release, and missing most the cheese, it will have melted all off
over promise and under deliver as usual. Maybe wait end of this year before dipping in again. Havent played proper since 3.14 and see CIG doing the usual again.
Happy with the new features overall and we still have some time to go, but the lack of communication regarding cargo is a bit concerning especially with how much CIG has talked about it leading up to 3.23. Now it seems they have gone radio silent on cargo. If it gets pushed to a .1 patch then so be it but some communication on it would go a long way.
All i need to see if the bloody starmap and ability to put wp down i can quantum to with stability then i would be happy.....but as usual its going to probably be a very buggy year with very little new.....but hey hopefully im wrong
I honestly trust your judgement on what info to share in WiR. It's the only thing I follow regularly because it's neither too much nor too little since the beginning. And since then it only got better in value and quality so keep doing what you do ❤
i like most of the stuff in 3.23 but flying not as fun anymore i really dont like that when you put landing gear down drops your speed to 30 so you can't slide and more and now easy kill for any one this might make me leave could change but right now might put it down for good
Great video! In my opinion, I don't think 3.23 will make it to its "Q1 Patch" if they still plan to have everything they said that was going to be in 3.23. To me, its either a delay or they are cutting features to make it "on time." I hope I'm wrong...
They scrapped that a long time ago im pretty sure. Supposed to be q2.
Seems most larger ships fly like dumpsters now…another bad decision by CIG.
I wont play the entirety of 3.23 if cargo elevators arent in. The rest of the game is the same ole same ole. And the star map should be a priority. The inability to set routes in most cases is just out of this world. A space game that you cant navigate space.
i hope that the cargo missions also include prisoner transport for dedicated ships that can support it like the cuttly blue/hawk (and later the Zeus). it will be cool to give the cages some purpose.
Calling it now, 3.23.0 will not contain instanced hangars or any of the features therein.
I really hope you're wrong citizen. lol
@@MILSPECMOM Me too....
Low hanging fruit though. Next you're gonna tell me Trump wins another election. Cue the shocked Pikachu face. /s
they need to set something up so players can pick up other players Cargo as a contract for money
there is nothing an no plans we hear aboudt pls ask aboudt it.
it will helps miners out an so on so you can try a prober game play for miners an epople that want to move stuff from A to B but they dont own a transport craft so they can hire players for this.
Cig- we won’t release ships without gameplay…. Continues to release ships without gameplay
Ugh i didnt buy this for MM.. i dont want space call of duty i want star citizen...😢
The one time I saw the last mission for Xeno doing the delivery, the person that got the mission then shared it out to everyone who asked and it cleared out a large portion of the server pop that had been waiting a long time for the mission to show up again.
Of they dont get hamgers in this will be yhe biggest f up in s long time break invontory and don't nt give us hangers big steps back
hoping we find out about the cargo status on wednesday with the roadmap update
IMO this channel delivers the most balanced and reasonable takes on the state of the game, with none of the bullshit.
ngl, seeing my gamertag pop up in a SaltEMike video made my fanny flutter a bit!
1:25 "only 140calories per serving" - with 35g serving size it means 420calories per 100g which is slightly more calories than in 100g of pure sugar - 387cal ))
yeah, allowing for serving sizes as a measurement of calories is how the corpo lobbies managed to get back to scammin ya
That launcher is bug to hell I had to go back to the old one immediately because it wouldn't even let me play
thanks Mike for your content, all my best wishs for the comming weeks
It'll be fine Mike, just don't play the game till it gets good like the rest of us.
Constant ”commodity price alerts” better not be in 3.23…
Not sure why do you need freight elevators to make a proper event to deliver cargo
Can they finally increase ballistic ammo for ships ffs.
I want to run ballistic guns so badly bad the amount of ammo is WAY to low, add more ammo and the option to reload or something.
Its ridicolous.
900 years into the future and they can't figure out reloading of ammo from the ship's cargo grid. It's like we got stuck with California/NY rifle magazine laws but for all ship combat. lol
is 3.23 living up to the hype? no dumpster fire, as is OD 5.. since when have box missions worked?
Who even does box missions? Those were a proof of concept test.
i tell you.. a lot of features will be pushed back :D
you cant hype 💩 engine performance and 💩 server
RUclipsrs always over-hype sc patches
Honestly, I didn't expect the Zeus until next October. As for the Legionnaire, I know they were talking once about boarding derelict space stations and stuff like that with it too - at the end of the day, it's also a drop ship. Sure the hacking computer and nose-bridge are the marquis features, but dropping a squad into a battlezone is still viable with it too so I think it will find some use. I'm a bit surprised though; I thought we'd have a lot more stuff in by now - for example, weren't the G12s supposed to be in last Christmas? Anyway, don't stress too much Mike, it will be ready when it's ready. Thanks for the video o7
With no hangars, the patch is a failure.
I'll be very disappointed if cargo/hangars does not make it to 3.23. It feels like that was originally the main reason for 3.23, now it's just a UI update patch :(
I haven't played a patch in over a year. Probably not going to play this one now that cargo isn't in it.
Hopefully 3.24 will have it and I'll try it out..... or maybe I'll just keep waiting till 4.0 or a better rep system.
Wave 1 of EPTU or PTU? I get the red box of log in error for the PTU, but I been told it's not in the PTU.
There are two versions of the new launcher, the RC, which installs separately to the old launcher, and a direct replacement official release version of the new launcher, which does replace the old launcher. Most folks should be installing the latter.
Hopefully they're working on the Legionnaire because its "hacking" function is tied in with the ship permissions necessary for Engineering.
As it has been for the last 12 years... No, SC does not live up to the hype, they have never lived up to the hype, they likely never will live up to the hype. Stop giving them money
at least the UI changes and the map will make it. finally some QoL stuff
It’s been a big ‘carrot 🥕 on a stick’ for over 2 decades with SC bs… I feel bad for those that poured cash on this bs.
Need a new copium inhailer!
Feeling quite worried too. I was also super hyped for the cargo and hanger stuff.
But I also expected more from the distribution zones. Quite disappointed that there is like no content there.
The best things about the patch are now quality of life things, which dont get me wrong, is sorely needed and super excited for them, but there is basically nothing new to do at this stage
I can't stand the change to how you fly ships now it sucks
It sucked before too.
Anytime I hear or see anything about base building now, all I can think is RIP Todd Pappy
He died?
@@fffx2 Worse: Laid off by the man, CR, himself
@@b34k97 Got any proof he was laid off?
I would rather Invictis be with the current build instead of rushing out 3.23
Yeah I. Still worried about the phase 3 completion, have sent a ticket in yeaterday but cig has not replied as of 20.30 today.... Worried as bought into the MK2 as had a super H.
Overpromised, it is what it is
We don't even have ship to ship docking with the big docking ports right? So that should arrive with the Legionnaire or it's completely useless.
It tanked when they brought in PES, like every game that's brought in persistence. It will again. They should make PU the PPTU, because PU will always be a different beast and a test in itself. Imagine how empty it would be if we only had stuff that worked 100%. I just want it delivered roughly on time, and the features and additions working by 3.30 ( as they'll be broke by 3.40 =P ). But I'm really exited for engineering, knowing it's going to annoy me how buggy it will be as we are all fail to curb our enthusiasm at times.
ok cynic
one month (minimum) before 3.23 and... no cargo? omg everything is gone!!!
I’m not freaking out, because I’m an adult, but I do hope to see the personalized hangars and updates to cargo soon.
So I’m a child…ok dude.
@@SaltEMike lol, bro I’m close to 60 and just have a different perspective. I appreciate your passion but do you spend as much time with your wife as you do with Star Citizen? I’m not a priest or a therapist but she needs you more than us. Just an old man sharing because I can. Ban me if you want. I’ve been listening to you for 7 years dude. You’re achieving great things especially after the LevelCap stream. Love him too. Im sincerely happy for your growth and you don’t need me to lecture you but as someone who’s put career over family I’m admonishing you to take a step back and love that which is most important. I see you taking the time for family and that’s great but you say it with some form of regret and apology. Please don’t do that. You have skill as an entertainer and your opinions have won you fame. I’m just the sorry old man warning you to maintain the main thing. No shade meant but obviously I touched a nerve. You have a huge influence on this community and I want you to thrive but not at the expense of your wife and family. Sermon over. I hope no hard feelings.
Salty you're funny if you use the new launcher and you get the error code 2000, the old launcher doesn't work either and then you can't even redirect the game let alone verify your files
Just letting you know....i skip every single ad i see or hear.....except yours....keep it up.