How Pakistani women are taking the internet back | Nighat Dad
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2018
- TED Fellow Nighat Dad studies online harassment, especially as it relates to patriarchal cultures like the one in her small village in Pakistan. She tells the story of how she set up Pakistan's first cyber harassment helpline, offering support to women who face serious threats online. "Safe access to the internet is access to knowledge, and knowledge is freedom," she says. "When I fight for a woman's digital rights, I am fighting for equality."
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Why only 700 likes. . . And moreover why 599 dislikes. . . ?
Does this somewhere indicate the our resistance to the kind of thoughts provoked in our kinds by Nighat Dad?
Is this how resistant we are to the idea of granting equality and freedom to women. . ?
The presence of 599 dislikes to this talk is disturbing to me. . .
I am from India but what Nighat Dad spoke about here is a grim and chilling reminder of the plight of many women in India, Pakistan and the world over. . .
Thank you, Ms Nighat Dad for this talk. 👏🏻
Good
Who's from Pakistan? Can you tell me please, whether Salman and Mudasir are best friends again or not?
The real problems in the world.
This made my day 😂
Who are they?
Hahaha
Things are changing... hope in future things will be better for all....
Pakistan ought to clean it's own house before expecting the global internet to.
They never had it in the first place
Yousef A RIP your knowledge im using 4g rightnow 🙄
Who never had it??? Are you high or something??
E.o.T “It” is the control part. Aren’t we striving for a neutral internet, for them to have access to it? It would’ve been okay if they were gaining back control of their life
Yousef A Oh bro. I am a girl and using it right now, but the speaker is right that most of the people don't allow their daughters or sisters to use internet but my father isn't like that Allhamdulliallah.
😊
Chaudhary Zohaib didn't know you were a woman. Thanks for confirming
Should not have read the comments
depressing isnt it?
KrazyKain KrazyKain Yeah, some people don't seem to understand the situation of women in Pakistan. I can smell the ignorance!
it's not just that, it's this general mentality that simply pointing out "hey, you know how women in some parts of the world (to say nothing of women in general) don't have it easy?" just summons ridiculous amounts of vitriol from so many people.
Since when was wanting people to have a decent life a political stance and not just human decency?
KrazyKain yess! exactly.
Women in the west have it easy. Women in other parts, less so. Then again the left will defend those cultures who are actually oppressing women and complain that they themselves are victims. People who pretend to care are the worst.
0:43
WTFFFFFF
Yeah can't believe people actually said that
I'm usually against talks heavily focused on the female agenda but if there's one part of the world where women really go through oppression and struggle it's Pakistan. To all those who are disliking this video because of your personal bias formed by 3rd wave feminism in the west, disassociate those biases from this video and you may find something worth watching (plus, it's so short). Otherwise, just ignore my comment or whatever.
S B yeah and your research is based on what exactly?
S B thank you. Women are 100% oppressed in the Middle East
S B Well said dude. But is online harassment really their most pressing issue then?
James Bond digital equality demand doesnt mean they are demanding that at the sacrifice of other freedoms. its just part pf a bigger picture
James Bond There are other things too, but digital equality is a thing which has to be here as using internet can also be beneficial to girls bc they can get education at home if they can not go to school or tusion classes.
I was honestley suprised The States werent attacked in thes video. That being said, this should be a wake up call for the democratic peoples in America. This issue, along with multiple other civil rights issues that are striped away from Islamic women, (which the left support whole heartedly over Israel) is a bad culture. The extremist Islam culture. which this woman is from, and is also is sooo much worse than the Jewish/Westernized equivalent.
Its not racism/xeonism (or hpwever you call it) its a human rights issue. You don't see this anywhere else man. This are my 2 cents.
Correction, Pakistan has 17.6% internet penetration rate, 2018.. Why isn't there any statistics about her organization (Like how much cases they have resolved, how much voices of women have they forwarded to the supreme court or any other concern departments). there are hundreds of organizations who do remarkable work for women empowerment, couldn't she atleast mention them..
What a fantastic example of a Pakistani person. Thanks for all your work and support, Nighat!
im just here for the comments *grabs popcorn*
*steals your popcorn and eats it*
Tbh I’m not sure why there are so many dislikes... maybe people assumed this was some feminism video but it’s not. Sure the title is off... they never had it in the first place but outside of that I mean.
"taking back the Internet" and demanding a "safe" Internet free from harassment is basically ignoring the existence of the ability to block people so that you don't see the things you don't like. There will always be people that harass you and it is your choice which one to block and move on or don't block and scream for a safe internet.
Words are only as bad as you let them be...
The treatment of women in Pakistan and the rest of the Middle East is also not a tech problem but a cultural one which is especially there spearheaded by a certain religion that isn't exactly a fan of equal rights.
Thank-you for doing what you can to help people! You support and encourage women who have been made to feel afraid. Thank-you again.
How can they take it back when it was never just theres! And ive still got it!
You go, girl!
Why I read it “ bikini “ 🙄
"Cyber Harassment"?
Hugs n love from Australia ❤ for all women and your free access to real freedom. I have heard the men tell me they keep their sisters esp younger sisters
"off the internet." Props to you achieving a Law degree. Congrats for you darling. You are an exciting trail blazer.
Great & Stay blessed
ah we have An FIA helpline for all that 😒
اس نے گوروں کو رام کہانی سنائی ہے ہمدردی اور ڈالر کے لیے
This makes me so sad. Good for you for standing up and letting your voice be heard!
She is exaggerating, reality is it is very rare .
Come to pakistan ,i am myself from a house of educated people.
My mother is a gynecologist and myself an E.R specialist.
This is just plain sympathy stunt
Wish you more success to explore your investigations to fight against inequality.
The comment section is the prove of what she is talking about ...
can you explain that logic?
busTedOaS The comments in any article about feminism justify feminism.
The existence of contrary opinions doesn't make you right.
Okay.. Maybe I'm wrong here, but wouldn't it be better to adress the physical violence first and then other things?
pinegulf Are you not capable of doing more than one thing at once? Does everyone have to be talking about the same thing?
Great stuff .
Thank you 💜
Thank you 💜
Thank you 💜 Namaste
What kind of honor is that? I thought honor was gained by improving the lives of those around you, not controlling some punk's dreams to fit your fantasies.
I find the message here to be convoluted.
The title, begining and ending of the speech are about cyber bullying, while in-between she talks about women there not being allowed to use a phone, other technology, nor get a higher education. These are different things.
The second seems to be an important issue, but the useful conversation on the topic can not happen, as the way it is presented (with e.g. a talk about "the awful people online") reminds too much about current western SJWs and does not allow the audience to take seriously the message about the underlying issue.
Essentially, she is piggibacking a narrative about meen comments online, on top of stories of Pakistani women being killed.
This, in my opinion, is doing much more harm than good and making me question her motives.
The talk was about "taking back the Internet" which beings with access to the internet in the first place. I think the narrative was just fine.
😚😚😚💓💓💓YOU ARE VERY GREAT I LOVE YOUR SPEEKING👼👼💋🎀💗💗
The comments by Pakistani men prove her point smh.. Support the topic but the talk is not at the level I expect from Ted
Could you tell me what her point was? Cause I don't hear her do anything but lament the problem.
Benazir Bhutto was a privileged lady. She had to flee from the country and was assassinated when she returned. Tell me one self made woman who reached that level of power.
Im pretty sure pakistani men cant even speak english
👏👏👏👍👍👍 Keep up the work.
Let me guess before I dive into the cesspool that is RUclips's comment section. This is another 'feminist' video judging from the dislikes and the title.
Note: I am not saying that feminists are bad or good, or that this is a feminist talk, I'm just stating my guess. Pls don't get offended or try to give me hate, I don't have the time nor effort to reply.
Poor internet :/
Very true. Respect and love from Pakistan occupied Balochistan.
Woah man. As a Punjabi Pakistani I feel sorry for you if something wrong is happening in Balochistan by the state😢
these issues are very where not just in Pakistan and India. Laws are here. But crime can't be stopped, Just low down. And thanks to almighty cyber crimes are in very low count in Pakistan 2022.
I do not understand why pakistan women arent equal with the men..why they do not have the same right ..😠😡😢
Chaudhary Zohaib pahahaha no
Trailers ‘N’ gameplay i live in Pakistan search about it 🙄 better know what you are talking about before speculating
Chaudhary Zohaib im sure in the coutryside the women are like that ..i was talking with some young girls and they dosent have right to school just right to be married
Because of religion and culture...
Aegle so this is not a healty culture and religion
Is someone going to say it? No?
Ok, here we go: Islam.
Um extremism and illiteracy. Not Islam.
My dream is learn English
Because I don't understand what she says
abbas iraq I'm Indian and have new Muslim neighbours. They are giving me so much paranoia.
Mukesh Kumar I don't understand you what do you mean
abbas iraq my Muslim neighbours are behaving very unfriendly towards me
Mukesh Kumar run
Mukesh Kumar This woman says so
WHERE'S THE SCIENCE!!!?!??!
night dad.
safe internet wat
Very good my prayers and spirit are with you and the women you are rising
but then again, not all women want to be professional carriers
pellui millen So? All women should have the choice and opportunity.
Okay yeah, don't read the comments...
Wow! Inspiring!
Pillow Strength why?
a - muse - me Why does it matter? I'm inspired...
@haqeeqattv y fitna b h ak #NighatDad wala
Are they starting to use Computers?
I hope you know how amazing you are! I look up to you as do many others! Thankyou. I have been a victim of such threats and all. I'm glad you've made ways for coming generation of girls to feel a little safer knowing no one has the right to blackmail them or cyber harass them. 💕
140million use internet?
512 dislikes huh!!! 😥 ignorance
@navid ahmad i think body searching is not a disrespectful behavior. Things that are done on men should be equal to women. So body search should be done if it is needed to both men and women unless the officer uses his/her rights for their other purposes.
amazing as a man of integrity we should promote women in every field of development
MOIZ MUGHAL as long as they deserve it & earn it without any extra help.
Shaun Riley earn it i dont think so we men have to now or other way accomadate them in our society to prosper liberal country what i am trying to say it's time we all should be accountable
MOIZ MUGHAL fucking beta male 😂
MOIZ MUGHAL well. No. I'm not accountable for anyone's short comings. Who cares if someone has to work a bit harder than the next, wouldn't that make the accomplishment that much sweeter in the end??? Or is it always more enjoyable when you hand things out and make paths smoother for one over the other?
MOIZ MUGHAL may I ask why? It's just that your comment could be interpreted as sexist, as it sounds like you think women can't achieve without the help of men.
On another note, quite the humble-brag you pulled off there 😁
Test
Very funny speech ever seen in my life😂
Please i wanna to know she speaks American accent or British accent???
Opening with saying how women in pakistan recieve harassment online makes it sound so silly, as if that doesn't happen anywhere else in the worlds. Like to Boogie2988 for example... Sure things might be different and I'm not saying it's a bad talk but I find myself having completely lost interest in this less than a minute into the video.
Morthenex You lost interest because you've never experienced it and so therefore it must not exist. Or these silly women are just exaggerating. Boring, am I right?
Taking the internet back to medieval times with their shitposts on Instagram.
"I can't take meanies on the internet"
Doom Maker There's a difference between being mean and throwing slurs, rape and death threats, and doxxing. Be grateful that you're ignorant enough to not know it.
There is none. Very few people would actually make these threats come true and when this does happen, the media won't forget about it for like a month
Remember when TED talks had cool stuff like technology and science
Night Dad
Omg wth is that
feel threatened online ?
use nord vpn.
nah, she chose to display herself online in certain way and then whines about it.
This made me laught so hard :D I read it as if it was an ad.
Second thought, maybe they have this exact ad in pakistan.
Saw this video few months ago when I didn't know who she was and I was a bit inspired but now that I know who she is this video makes me angry
Now this is real feminism.
Ted talks have lost their oomph ya know
For everyone saying "this isn't standard SJW feminist crap, women in Pakistan are genuinely oppressed", keep in mind that they're oppressed by their culture, not online comments, and conflating the actual oppression of Pakistani women with western feminist talking points to smuggle them in, serves to benefit the feminist agenda at the expense of awareness of real women's suffering, and should be resisted.
After watching this
Proud citizen of
INDIA
Jai hind
Pagal insaan she is muslim
PAKISTAN in the title *instant click*
Sadly it is not about grooming gangs, as it is TED - the other side.
#ushadahussla
This is the problem with some people. they think that the world owes them something that they didn't work for or develop... Here is a prime example of self-centred enlightenment.
It was mostly a small number of men who developed the internet and then the www and then they gave it to the world and here is an example of someone who is the antithesis of the speaker.
Winderful Night dad, I am proud to say that we are friends on Facebook!
first ;D
I read her name as Night Dad
Wow this is a powerful message and great delivery
this is the true story of Pakistan
That’s not everywhere in Pakistan it’s only the ones that are uneducated and live in villages. I feel bad for her that they were that strict and unfortunately she was from that minority
Muaz Nabil She's not a minority.
cherynoimout if you aren’t a Pakistani you have no idea what you are talking about. Trust me. I’m Pakistani and also from Punjab. Not even my far cousins who actually live in villages do that. So sorry to say I don’t agree with you. And don’t just say anything without research.
Muaz Nabil I'm also Pakistani. She's not a minority. Don't just "say anything" without your own research when you're not a woman and you don't have any experience to speak of.
cherynoimout sister , I am not a woman but I have sisters , phophos, mamys and they have different backgrounds and none of them suffered from what she did. I have many Pakistani friends and they never ever talked about not giving cellphones to their daughters. And may Allah ease your troubles and hers if any. Thanks.
hahaha this is fucking hilarious 🤣
but what about non Pakistani women?
what about Pakistani women who didnt take back the internet? they have a story to tell too! this is sexist.
Make your own talk? As a Pakistani woman she's more experienced with the harassment Pakistani women face and is equipped to talk about that.
BBW
Humans are such wonderful beings one can be fat and ugly and mindless at the same time and i love how she volunteered to demonstrate that fact here thanks nighat btw that's my phopo's name so that tells something already
Apparently, social media equals the whole Internet.
The Chidds more like towards Snapcjat thots rather than regular people...
I dont think so...
I'll grant you that social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are instrumental in the advertisement of groups, organisations and businesses. Google is still the biggest search engine on the Internet with RUclips (where you can happily browse and interact with content anonymously) coming in second.
What a strange title! Looks like you are implying ownership of the internet. If anyone should be taking it back it would be Tim Berners Lee.
She is a scam and had a cyber-security officer removed (in 2020) after he identified group involved in online vilification campaigns.
Great job at taking the internet back ladies!!!! Don't mind the gays being thrown off roofs or the adulterers being stoned, though, keep fighting the good fight for E Q U A L I T Y
Sarcasm?
I mean youre right, she needs a reality check on what the real issues are
Pakistan give the best rights to the women. There is no any example in the world. Women in pakistan feel so safe and they have the world best families. proudly they take education and knowledge and also take place in politics, in all activities and take part a good roles in society because of Islam.
fazal r LOL Talk to any of your female relatives or friends and get back to me on that.
cherynoimout lala come to pak and see with your self with bright eyes and then you say.... I m here from 23 years ok.
fazal r I live here, smarty. Maybe put away the assumptions before you speak next time? :)
cherynoimout this is very important your surrounding which you think and what about your family and than your society behavior.
fazal r What are you replying to? Living in Pakistan? So you think if I'm critical of Pakistani society I must not be Pakistani?
A controversial view:
I grew up in Europe, with the values and norms from middle east AND the West. I agree that honour killing is NOT the way. However, if a woman is in a country where there are consequences to certain actions, she consiencely chooses to keep talking to strange men, she should not act surprised. HOW GOOD or BAD the norms and values are in those countries, those are the current (unwritten) rules, abiding is the best way (although as a westerner those rules may be extreme, it is how it is in those countries, it is 'their household', I suppose you dont get to meddle with it).
Also, the ted talk makes it seem that Pakistan is ALL ABOUT honour killing and how bad Pakistan is. This is NOT true!
disclaimer: I AM NO pakistani, but i see simmilarities with my own culture and living in Europe provides me the insight from both worlds
This is an international problem, not a pakistani problem.
It manifests in real life in Pakistan..There are so many examples don't try to save Pakistan's face by denying reality.
This is wamen problem. People being mean online - or at least according to title and description.
See india we give equal rights to women
Uh they never had it they never invented it what is this title even talking abou ?
Idiot
Brenda Rua triggered feminist ?
Vidu you wish. Your stupid comment has no bearing on the presentation. Now go back to your mama's basement.
Vidura that is not the message here.
Why is cyber harassment being presented as a femal issue? Men get harassed online too.
Cuz it's Marxist feminist propaganda. That is why.
Pretend to be female online for a bit and make any number of even slightly controversial statements for the fastest results. People become vicious over the slightest things.
It happens even more often with women and over non-aggressive stuff. Plus men don't have any harsh gendered slurs, or get as many rape threats
Huh, men don't have any harsh gender slurs? There are far more for men than there are for women. And statistically men receive more abuse than women online. And most "rape threats" are trolls, and not to be taken seriously at all, and in fact, are often made by other women.
jeff milligan Nope, none! Congratulations. And do you have any stats on those? I don't believe you.
ted how about uploading something good once?
1:22 when u make ur avatar on purpose out of porpotion lmao
It's sad that there are men disliking this purely because a woman is speaking about her rights in her own country. These dudes are absolutely pathetic...
The dislikes are for the clickbait title. I hate the title because it doesn't tell you a thing about what Nighat is here to say.
That said, I would've actually liked to hear specifics about her service. She gives the mission but no success stories.
what exactly does having a website to report alleged internet "abusers"? Do you actually believe the state or the police force will take her seriously? This website is hardly a step forward for a country that does not value individual freedom or secularism. Second she is espousing a typical Rad Fem. talking point; that women are the only victims of internet vitriol.
pepe mypepe Mostly
I agree with you.
Red Mage not because it’s a woman but a very radical feminist
'How Pakistani women are taking the internet back" = people are mean to you online?
You do you. Noone on the internet knows I am a dog.
TED talks...
99% SJW, Feminist bs
1% actually intelligent conversation
You do realize that the number 1 watched TED video (on YT at-least) is of a comedian replying to spam emails, with really not too much to learn from it.
Relax dude, there's a whole sort of videos TED does, and if this isn't to your liking, go back and watch the others or wait until the next one.
Well ... i learned that replying to the constant stream of spam-mails can indeed be fun ... which is the opposite what spam in my experience is normally...
In this vid i learned: "....mememe woman ... issues .... mememe harrasment"
Suggesting that it's 1% is being extremely generous.
"Pa kis thaawn"
a - muse - me That's how you pronounce it lol
a - muse - me that means???
She now has been charged with misappropriating funds
She's speaking non sense, there are negativity in every where in the world you can't point out only in پاکستان for money and visa
Well yiu showed just 1 side of picture, you must Doscuss about Benazir, arfa kareem and so many ither women's of Pakistan you must not discuss just the negativity for your own cause.
Ali raza I wasn't aware that time you address a negative aspect of society you had to plaster ten pictures of something good, as if the ratio is even that equal (especially for women) in Pakistan.
If you feel that insecure about the flaws in your country that you have to say this, how about working to fix those and make it so there's only positives and talks like this aren't needed?
Ummmm. I don't think the internet knows if you're a Pakistani women unless you post that you are?
Yara kabhi tw Pakistan ki positive side bhi dikhaya karo
Muzammil Ahmad Gen1 Yaar
bhai status do video dislike krao bc kia anab shnab bakwas kr gai
She is a great side of Pakistan. What she's done for women in Pakistan is profound.
Roxy456 and you know Pakistani's how? 🙄 for God's sake Pakistan is not a conservative state as you think it is
Chaudhary Zohaib I'm Pakistani, man.