9:14 I guess weird sub-pixel layouts are just going to be the norm for OLED monitors. Microsoft REALLY needs to update Cleartype to account for all of them.
I love how you brakedown every single value,downfalls and specs. I don’t know if anyone do it better. Your channel is my go to every time when I’m interested in staff like this. Great work! 🏆
so stoked to see OLED breaking into the mainstream gaming monitor market, will be excited to pick one up sometime later this year. great review as always man!
I’ve had the Alienware QDOLED for almost 5 months now and I couldn’t imagine going back to an IPS display. It completely changed the gaming experience.
@@triniplayer6172 there are some people who have burn in with this monitor but they all have the brightness maxed out or use the monitor in hdr for desktop use. There is just no getting around this fact and I own 3 OLEDs including the Alienware - any OLED panel must be used carefully to maintain longevity- in desktop hide icons and taskbar, use black background and keep brightness under 50% and only use HDR when watching Fullscreen movie or gaming and use the window settings to lower brightness of desktop graphics when in hdr. If you don't want to do this then don't buy an OLED get MiniLED or wait for MicroLED
honestly IPS glow and backlight unformity issues added onto the dogshit contrast is what makes the jump SO big. OLED panels are so much more consistent in their presentation and dark scenes actually are pleasant to look at.
OLED is just OLED. If you've ever owned or used OLED, you know what I mean. The sheer snappiness of them is crazy, along with the mind-blowing blacks and just the overall superior visual experience. I remember when my girlfriend first saw it, she was blown away by the quality and to this day she's now so spoiled by our 77" OLED that any time she sees pretty much any other TV it's "meh".
They are using that awful 8500K whitepoint to get more brightness, it's a scam. Because once you use the correct 6500K white point the max brightness also decreases.
@@ThisIsExile91 That's literally why they do it, try it on your own monitor. Change the whitepoint to something low like 2500K and use 100% brightness.
@@scufnino9153 if you’re asking if this monitor is good for ps5 then I’d say no it’s a bit overkill and would be better if you saved your money for something better suited.
Hey Ali, I think you forgot to leave the settings you're using in the description. As far as I can tell, you need to turn energy saving off, enable gamer profile 1 and set colour profile to C1? Were there any other settings you changed that you didn't go over in the video?
I just went from 1 month use of the Zowie and switched to this OLED today and immediately I noticed how bad the perceived motion blur on this OLED is compared to the 360hz Dyac. The difference is night and day. I feel like every FPS game has motion blur on but it’s just the absence of Dyac on this OLED that makes me feel that way.
I think 240Hz OLED is clearer. 360Hz 2566 is smoother. right? and I have a Q.I have a pg27aqdm. And I feel that 240hz is not enough. In that case, do you think I should give up the response speed and move to DYAC 360hz?@@mosesbrambila
I have this monitor, my only complaint is indeed the subpixel layout causing general text reading to feel odd. I've been using Windows ClearType to mitigate it, but it still isn't perfect.
Maybe you've meant something else? ClearType is exactly what causes that and it's enabled by default already (but disabling it probably isn't an option either -- pixel density is too low).
@@califorupha1574 No it's not. Most people just misunderstand eye tracking motion blur. Eye tracking motion blur is only reduced by shorter persistence = displaying the image for shorter time, which happens either by strobing the image or increasing refresh rate. Even if the 360hz LCD transitions more slowly and has more overshoot artifacts, it still reduces persistence by changing the image more often.
The time and effort that you put into each video and review is like no other. I do wonder how these two monitors compare to the Samsung Odyssey Neo G8? Keep up the great work!!
I was waiting for OLED 27" panel for 1440p res for years ! ! I'm so happy this comes out. Can't wait to see the market comes with ASUS alternative and Viewsonic !
@@califorupha1574 I own 3 OLED tv's and I've had 0 issues with burn-in the past 6 years. 1 of them is my LG C9 which is running the same news channel all day long in my office .. There is NOTHING to see at all. Same goes for my CX and C1.
Seeing stuff clearly with that OLED panel is way more of an advantage than gettin 1ms of response time. Diminishing return from 240 to 360hz refresh rate isn't as good as the upgrade from IPS (or other panels) to OLED. I will be buying that LG monitor in the future for sure.
@@anuzahyder7185 Yeah, pity they are all going to be bullshit curved ultrawide as Samsung doesn't plan other monitor screen sizes for this year. Nothing to wait for then.
The HUGE problem of OLED displays is flickering. They use PWM to control the light brightness and not DC dimming so many people will feel nausea, headaches, and migraines and more. Even thoose that deal better with that will have their health affected in other ways.
I got one of these exact OLED ultragears for $300 Cad as it was used as a BestBuy demo model and has bad burn in that I was going to just live with but after checking the warranty it is still covered and so I got it replaced for free essentially getting a brand new one for $300
What scaling mode in the LG monitor OSD did you use when testing monitor delay? (full wide/original/just scan), full wide felt more responsive for me GPU or display scaling in NVCPL? Was VRR/adaptive sync enabled or disabled? Are you using HDMI 2.1 or DisplayPort? Is DSC enabled, and what colour depth are you using in NVCPL? Thank you
just got this monitor and man what a difference. Gaming looks so crisp and clean on it, and i know this is gonna be a weird thing to throw out, but anime look absolutely amazing with it.
I've been reading some negatives about anime on oled, where the quick responsetime will cause stutter on low fps content. I should get the refresh on this monitor later today and I'm a bit worried, did you change any settings for better viewing experience in the past three months?
200 nits full fill brightness doesn't sound great, but trust me on LG OLEDs. If you use HDR, it is STUNNING. The reason for this is because you're only lighting small sections of the screen, so those sections are much brighter than 200 nits. It's jaw dropping.
Leider wird der Asus keinen HDMI2.1 Anschluss haben und das finde ich total unverschämt für 1200€! Ich als ps5 Besitzer benötige hdmi2.1 ansonsten brauch ich keine ps5. Und deshalb freue ich mich auf den LG Monitor wo für mich günstiger und deutlich bessere Anschlussstellen bietet!
Are image retention something you need to worry about on OLEDs for gaming? so many games have fairly static UI-elements and that always has me worried.
Really appreciate how much effort you put on every single video like after watching the video do i have any questions no not at all, all the points you make and explain is just so perfect, it's been around 2 years now since i am following you.. and every single video is just so knowledgeable and high quality, it just satisfying to watch for me.. thank you for sharing the passion with us
I picked up the XG27AQM about 2 months ago and it's been unbelievable so far compared to my old 1080p 120 Hz xbox graphics. Haven't been able to fully utilize the 270 Hz overclock yet because RDNA 3 drivers are kinda mid still, but this OLED looks unbelievable side by side with the IPS. OLED for gaming scares me because of the constant HUD potentially being burned in, but if they can really hammer down on it to keep that from happening, I might make the jump next year and sell my IPS...
I mean with things like pixel shift and pixel cleaning and dimming; I can't see how there will be much burn in unless you just play games all the time and always the same ones.
I have the older non oled version of this monitor (32” 1440p 240hz), and it’s hands down the best monitor I’ve ever owned. Can’t even imagine how good this oled version is
I received mine today, but I just saw that you didn't put the Settings you used on the LG into the description, would you mind telling us the settings you've used?
Finally the no.1 video I’ve been waiting for since CES
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9:14 I guess weird sub-pixel layouts are just going to be the norm for OLED monitors. Microsoft REALLY needs to update Cleartype to account for all of them.
Microshit will never update it
@@GewelReal very funny
@@GewelReal ofc they will. Microsoft love doing useless shit in os to make it run even worse.
Yes even the Alienware oled 21:9 that HW Unboxed reviewed had the same layout, and it wasn't optimal for text clarity.
the weird thing is, LG uses normal RGB OLED panels for their professional monitors but opted to use their wrgb tv panel tech for this one
The grade of detail is just gold! Please never stop to make videos!
this review sucks... this china monitor reviewer " @user-cl4bf9cn2f " much pro than him...
i don't even see the monitor in his link.
The quality of this video was incredible. Thank you for spending your time on this.
Dude, I love how you put both monitor on different desk.. and still manage the color harmony.
good for ps5 only ? help pls
@@scufnino9153 overkill but if you can afford it why not
I noticed that too, I hope that someday I can color grade like that haha
I love how you brakedown every single value,downfalls and specs. I don’t know if anyone do it better. Your channel is my go to every time when I’m interested in staff like this. Great work! 🏆
good for ps5 only ? help pls
breakdown buddy, keep that English in check!
@@scufnino9153 Overkill for ps5. Ps5 can get you only to 120 fps this one have double that. More for PC enthusiasts
the effort you put in this video can be seen by everbody, its crazy
yeah, i only buy things Optimum approves lmao
so stoked to see OLED breaking into the mainstream gaming monitor market, will be excited to pick one up sometime later this year. great review as always man!
dont this one is garbage. wait until others are released
@@Blox117 Agreed. This is the first wave. I would definitely wait till end of year and re-evaluate.
Agreed. , personally ill wait for black friday sales, way too expensive atm at least here in Northern Europe
@@Blox117 this is for competitive fps, not for content creators
@@rarinth it fails at that too
I’ve had the Alienware QDOLED for almost 5 months now and I couldn’t imagine going back to an IPS display. It completely changed the gaming experience.
Any burn-in?
@@ou1814 Burn-in takes YEARS to develop.
@@triniplayer6172 there are some people who have burn in with this monitor but they all have the brightness maxed out or use the monitor in hdr for desktop use. There is just no getting around this fact and I own 3 OLEDs including the Alienware - any OLED panel must be used carefully to maintain longevity- in desktop hide icons and taskbar, use black background and keep brightness under 50% and only use HDR when watching Fullscreen movie or gaming and use the window settings to lower brightness of desktop graphics when in hdr. If you don't want to do this then don't buy an OLED get MiniLED or wait for MicroLED
@@ms3862 bro that sounds like torture
honestly IPS glow and backlight unformity issues added onto the dogshit contrast is what makes the jump SO big. OLED panels are so much more consistent in their presentation and dark scenes actually are pleasant to look at.
If you're coming from a +5 years old 26", 1080p LCD Panel the jump is mind blowing!
Update: the overshoot is no longer anything above 0.4% average, they put a firmware update about 7-8~ish months ago! Cheers!
With every new vid of you I'm always amazed by the increasing volume of your hair and you never disappointed me even once.
haha I ctrl+f for "hair" and sure enough someone already commented on it
Most anticipated video for sure, thank you so much for these.
OLED is just OLED. If you've ever owned or used OLED, you know what I mean. The sheer snappiness of them is crazy, along with the mind-blowing blacks and just the overall superior visual experience.
I remember when my girlfriend first saw it, she was blown away by the quality and to this day she's now so spoiled by our 77" OLED that any time she sees pretty much any other TV it's "meh".
This is the review I've been waiting for on this monitor! I'll definitely be using your link!
OLED is harking back to crt roots almost where you get this 'natural' depth in the picture.
Bro you are so smart I just realized this
@@rashadvsyou gamers understand you see lol
They are using that awful 8500K whitepoint to get more brightness, it's a scam. Because once you use the correct 6500K white point the max brightness also decreases.
😂😂 good one bud
@@ThisIsExile91 That's literally why they do it, try it on your own monitor. Change the whitepoint to something low like 2500K and use 100% brightness.
good for ps5 only ? help pls
@@scufnino9153 if you’re asking if this monitor is good for ps5 then I’d say no it’s a bit overkill and would be better if you saved your money for something better suited.
@@scufnino9153 maybe an asus rog XG438Q ? It’s 4k and 120hz
Amazes me how monitors and technology in general gets so thin but manages to look so good
Hey Ali, I think you forgot to leave the settings you're using in the description. As far as I can tell, you need to turn energy saving off, enable gamer profile 1 and set colour profile to C1? Were there any other settings you changed that you didn't go over in the video?
did you figure it out?
Another amazing video! Can never go wrong with an Optimum review!
I've been waiting for you to review this for so long. Amazing video!
Finally the godfather of panels! Thanks Optimum for finally posting! As always well done and much appreciated!
really liked the shots where you color matched the lighting of the map with the light bar 3:41
This guy puts every tech reviewer to shame amazing content
Youre by far the top gaming monitor reviewer on the internet. Its not even close.
You should do more monitor reviews. Love them!
Top tier production on these videos every time.
Man, that Zowie is still really something.
I just went from 1 month use of the Zowie and switched to this OLED today and immediately I noticed how bad the perceived motion blur on this OLED is compared to the 360hz Dyac. The difference is night and day. I feel like every FPS game has motion blur on but it’s just the absence of Dyac on this OLED that makes me feel that way.
I think 240Hz OLED is clearer.
360Hz 2566 is smoother. right?
and I have a Q.I have a pg27aqdm. And I feel that 240hz is not enough. In that case, do you think I should give up the response speed and move to DYAC 360hz?@@mosesbrambila
7:24 look at his biceps that make me want to the gym 🔥
Dude i was thinking in morning when you going to upload video?
4k 240hz oled will be my next screen, i want to be able to play in 1440p 240hz esports but also 4k variable refresh RPG
Only 240Hz??
Crying at 60 hz and full hd 😭😂
Wht game was he playing
I have this monitor, my only complaint is indeed the subpixel layout causing general text reading to feel odd. I've been using Windows ClearType to mitigate it, but it still isn't perfect.
Oh, also, where are the monitor settings in the description?
For me text hasn't been an issue really...
Yep, sent my aw3423dwf back due to this. It sucks.
Maybe you've meant something else? ClearType is exactly what causes that and it's enabled by default already (but disabling it probably isn't an option either -- pixel density is too low).
Thanks for your Info. Is it More noticeable in Microsoft word? I usually do lots of writing stuff.
Always super high quality content from you, nice work.
Been waiting for this! Great review as always.
i was desapointed about the montion blur, but all the other things look flawless.
That’s just beyond crazy to me. Especially coming from an Oled panel
@@califorupha1574 No it's not. Most people just misunderstand eye tracking motion blur. Eye tracking motion blur is only reduced by shorter persistence = displaying the image for shorter time, which happens either by strobing the image or increasing refresh rate. Even if the 360hz LCD transitions more slowly and has more overshoot artifacts, it still reduces persistence by changing the image more often.
I love how you have all this different sensors to test precisely 🔥
Great review! Im waiting for the ASUS version to come out but also curious if we'll see 4k 27" and 32" OLEDs this year. Hopefully not friggin curved.
It will be the 2nd half of 2024. 4k brightness at 27, 32 pixel density is not at an acceptable level as of now.
@@5ean5ean22 1440p on 32"+ is perfectly acceptable
Whats the asus model?
@@mitsuracer87Haha, no.
Ali always dropping the prettiest and most colorful tech videos !! keep em coming !! thank you :)
Where’s the setting you said you would leave in the description?
I’ve been waiting for this video from you for literally years
The time and effort that you put into each video and review is like no other. I do wonder how these two monitors compare to the Samsung Odyssey Neo G8? Keep up the great work!!
I have both. Just depends Neo g8 is better when it comes to brightness colors look better sometimes. Playing at night lg is the goat there.
Damn your monitor reviews have become SO GOOD!
Thanks for pointing out color mode C1. I was just using HDR mode for everything since it has better colors.
You said you were going to put your monitor settings in the description, looks like they are missing 😢
Nice review as always! Looking forward the 500Hz reviews, the IPS Dell Alienware AW2524H vs the TN Asus ROG Swift Pro PG248QP
The level of quality in your videos is on another level. You are my go to for tech info on new stuff
9:25 It's actually an RWBG sub pixel layout(same as the LG 42 C2 OLED), meaning Red, White, Blue then Green.
wow bro all these tests blowed my mind great job
10:10 ...I like how the OLED crosshair actually stands out against the background while the IPS crosshair just seems to blend in.
I was waiting for OLED 27" panel for 1440p res for years ! ! I'm so happy this comes out. Can't wait to see the market comes with ASUS alternative and Viewsonic !
what are the setting for the monitor ??
I enjoyed this video so much. There was so much depth. I simply love to learn from this man. He's knowledgeable.
you said you'd leave your monitor settings below. Where are they?
he never leaves anything in description so dont expect it lol
You forgot to post the settings you were using for the monitor!
Really looking forward to your long time use update. The risk of burn in is pretty much the only reason I am holding out on buying an OLED monitor.
Bro there is hardly any risk. It’s super super rare
@@guy5140 Trust there are still risk. I own an oled myself..
@@guy5140 well bout monitor i donno but on mobile the screen burns and get yellower day by day as material is organic
Especially if you use this monitor at 100% brightness like him, you'll have burnnjn in no time
@@califorupha1574 I own 3 OLED tv's and I've had 0 issues with burn-in the past 6 years.
1 of them is my LG C9 which is running the same news channel all day long in my office .. There is NOTHING to see at all.
Same goes for my CX and C1.
Amazing video, loved the tests and graphs. Top quality and extremely informative :)
you can try fixing the subpixel layout problem by tweaking cleartype
no u cant
It doesn't help much
how would you go about fixing it?
Been waiting for this so much!
man i hope they start making better 4k monitors
there are already excellent 4K monitors
@@GewelReal yeah but better ones
first world problems
like 27" 4K oled 240Hz MONITOR
@@zet7914 this >>>
Glad you mentioned the text - I hope the improves soon.
Seeing stuff clearly with that OLED panel is way more of an advantage than gettin 1ms of response time.
Diminishing return from 240 to 360hz refresh rate isn't as good as the upgrade from IPS (or other panels) to OLED.
I will be buying that LG monitor in the future for sure.
Wait. Expecting more qd oleds to come this year
@@anuzahyder7185 Yeah, pity they are all going to be bullshit curved ultrawide as Samsung doesn't plan other monitor screen sizes for this year. Nothing to wait for then.
@@RJ-vy4yd I want 27 inches MAX, not curved and minimum 240hz.
Let's see what the market will offer this year.
for 1080 yes, its wiser to aim for more specs, but bigger means more reso that also different experience in gaming and video playback
The OLED has 0.28ms of response time…what are you talking about? 🤣
your testing are next level!
If you play an eSports title with uncapped frames, would the LG OLED still beat out the 360Hz IPS in terms of overall responsiveness?
Nah. The image response for the 360hz Zowie is king but the LG is definitely incredible in quality.
I pre-ordered back in December hoping because the white sheet was amazing! I was not disappointed, super happy.
The HUGE problem of OLED displays is flickering. They use PWM to control the light brightness and not DC dimming so many people will feel nausea, headaches, and migraines and more. Even thoose that deal better with that will have their health affected in other ways.
I got one of these exact OLED ultragears for $300 Cad as it was used as a BestBuy demo model and has bad burn in that I was going to just live with but after checking the warranty it is still covered and so I got it replaced for free essentially getting a brand new one for $300
yay new episode
great review as always optimum
Well I can't complain about my LG OLED C1 with under 1ms response time! Could keep that my whole life time.
Solid review. Pretty much covered all the important bits of information all the stuf i wanted to know. Thx!
What scaling mode in the LG monitor OSD did you use when testing monitor delay? (full wide/original/just scan), full wide felt more responsive for me
GPU or display scaling in NVCPL?
Was VRR/adaptive sync enabled or disabled?
Are you using HDMI 2.1 or DisplayPort? Is DSC enabled, and what colour depth are you using in NVCPL?
Thank you
Wow I’m exactly where you were, full wide favor as well. Did you ever figure out the perfect combination?
Best review of this monitor ive seen thus far. Cant wait till my local Microcenter gets it in stock
just got this monitor and man what a difference. Gaming looks so crisp and clean on it, and i know this is gonna be a weird thing to throw out, but anime look absolutely amazing with it.
I've been reading some negatives about anime on oled, where the quick responsetime will cause stutter on low fps content. I should get the refresh on this monitor later today and I'm a bit worried, did you change any settings for better viewing experience in the past three months?
@@renegeeder i havent noticed any of the issues.
What are your display settings?
@Reyeston007 sorry swap it out for the MSI 4k OLED so I can't remember. Try looking at Rtings, that's where I normal go for monitor settings.
Ali, Solid camera work as usual. Appreciate the dedication for our well earned currency
Insanely high quality video, thanks for the testing work!
the way you just appeared at 7:23 lol
The CRT's are back in the Modern way.😍
wish the ultrawide was higher res but man OLEDs are finally making an appearance in high refresh desktop monitors
In SDR I have like 25% brightness on my LG C2 OLED, 100% burns my eyes.
In HDR its 80%
Gaming OLED monitor was my dream monitor, finally is available
Damn this is promising. Can’t wait till the 4K version comes
You know, funny thing is I just watched your video of you being excited about testing this out😊
200 nits full fill brightness doesn't sound great, but trust me on LG OLEDs. If you use HDR, it is STUNNING. The reason for this is because you're only lighting small sections of the screen, so those sections are much brighter than 200 nits. It's jaw dropping.
200 nits is 200 nits, who you wanna cheat?
yeah I was like bro just turn on HDR, OLEDs are designed to use it
200 nits is only the limit when the whole screen is fully lit. Individual pixels can peak at 1000 nits
Ah I see, thanks for the info.
My display got brighter over the first 2 weeks now it’s very usable during the day and I keep it 90% max and I’m happy with Cato
The review that I've been waiting for. Now will wait for the review and comparison between this LG and the Asus PG27AQDM. As always, great video!
Leider wird der Asus keinen HDMI2.1 Anschluss haben und das finde ich total unverschämt für 1200€! Ich als ps5 Besitzer benötige hdmi2.1 ansonsten brauch ich keine ps5. Und deshalb freue ich mich auf den LG Monitor wo für mich günstiger und deutlich bessere Anschlussstellen bietet!
@@babopalabo7897the ASUS is only better for brightness which PC users will prefer over HDMI 2.1
What would you consider more important for competitive FPS. Faster response times or faster input latency times?
both are important
7:25 Ali exhibiting high resolution bicep gains.
Hopefully some 32in options come out, as I'm looking to get an upgrade from the 32gp850
samsung neo g8 oled will be 32'' 240hz.
however dunno bout the quality and I don't go above 27'' at all
Could be that the Brightness is purposely toned down so that their bigger screens sell better or they are using old OLED panels here.
Are image retention something you need to worry about on OLEDs for gaming? so many games have fairly static UI-elements and that always has me worried.
Probably best to pay for warranty
I didn’t see your setting details in the description. Or I am missing it. Can you provide or show please
LG OLED is really good and next year it will be better especially the brightness and pixel layout.
just bought it, its so great! A game changer for gaming. The pixel arangement rarely bothers me during browsing and the gaming experience is amazing!
Hell yeah I just bought too!
@@deadboyayep8188you play on console ?
@@deadboyayep8188oled burn ins easy? Or nah
Really appreciate how much effort you put on every single video like after watching the video do i have any questions no not at all, all the points you make and explain is just so perfect, it's been around 2 years now since i am following you.. and every single video is just so knowledgeable and high quality, it just satisfying to watch for me.. thank you for sharing the passion with us
Hey could you share the monitor settings your using? Thanks
ikr. He said it was in the description but I can't find anything there
11:52 Hey it seems you forgot to put the settings you have been using in the description can you please tell me what settings you have been using?
i wish one day i can update my 60hz monitor to smth like that, amazing
5:24 Then do you recommend 2566k with Dyac+ when it comes to better motion clarity? Great content as always btw.
@elcactuar3354 "ZOWIE XL2566K TN 360Hz DyAc⁺™ 24.5 Inch Gaming Monitor For Esports"
I picked up the XG27AQM about 2 months ago and it's been unbelievable so far compared to my old 1080p 120 Hz xbox graphics. Haven't been able to fully utilize the 270 Hz overclock yet because RDNA 3 drivers are kinda mid still, but this OLED looks unbelievable side by side with the IPS. OLED for gaming scares me because of the constant HUD potentially being burned in, but if they can really hammer down on it to keep that from happening, I might make the jump next year and sell my IPS...
I mean with things like pixel shift and pixel cleaning and dimming; I can't see how there will be much burn in unless you just play games all the time and always the same ones.
@@Jimster481 Kovaaks for 3 hours haha
very good objective review with lots of details
I have the older non oled version of this monitor (32” 1440p 240hz), and it’s hands down the best monitor I’ve ever owned. Can’t even imagine how good this oled version is
I received mine today, but I just saw that you didn't put the Settings you used on the LG into the description, would you mind telling us the settings you've used?