That's what makes this channel so great. He gives you the digestible content similar to Linus but provides the tech like Gamer's Nexus or Hardware Unboxed does in an aesthetic similar to Dave2D. It's like the best of all 4 channels combined into 1.
@@georgepierre3594 Tn have huge ghosting vs oled... by x8 times. That is why BFI Dyac OR mbr you need to use it reduces ghosting for 50% Buy TC oled 120hz and tes tn 240hz... u will see oled is clear.
@@Dionyzos You could also learn how to use Google if you really wanted to know the difference and you felt like that information was withheld from you. Just saying.
OLED manufacturers really need to pay Microsoft to implement ClearType for their sub pixel layouts. I always notice how text isn’t rendered nicely with sub pixel layouts that aren’t supported by ClearType, so I don’t really want to get an OLED monitor (even though I love OLED and have one for my TV)
@@VladK-1 Yes, it does look better with ClearType disabled, but it's just not as good as an something with ClearType. Could I live without ClearType? Yeah, probably. But it's just really disappointing that ClearType exists yet it can't be used with the incredible new display types that are on the market.
I can't get past the possibility of burn in on the OLED, its a deal breaker for me at the moment until OLED's become standard in the next 2 to 3 years and they improve the technology, for the moment OLED is the breakthrough technology and imo its better to wait for it! IPS has its issues but its largely dependable and LG offers great IPS choices, im sticking wth that for now.
You can prevent burn in just requires a lot of effort on your side like doing all the possible counter measures to prevent it. There are also select monitors that do offer burn in warranty, MSI's 360hz qd-oled they offer a 3 year burn in warranty.
@@ollypearce7532 A typical monitor user has been sitting at it for more than 5 years. or even 7-10 (why change if it works great?) he works, plays or sits on the Internet for 4-12 hours a day.and often leaves it on at night or when it goes off, and sometimes the monitor does not go off. I have this often on win 10 and win 11. there is no pattern. Therefore, ice is for the rich or those who will blow away dust particles from it and take care of it as a child, and not as another monitor. I see this as a fear of burnout.
People are scared but look at the testing Rtings is doing. It takes a really long time to have a noticeable effect. With that in mind, Rtings is also TRYING to cause burn-in. The likelihood you will experience burn-in in any meaningful amount is unlikely.
So nice that you bring up this about perceived motion blur even if the OLED has near instantaneous pixel respons time! I remember comparing an OLED TV from 2017 with my Plasma TV from 2010 (both at 60 Hz) and thinknig motion blur must be so much better on the OLED with its short pixel response time. Oh, my what a surpsise when motion in games looked so much blurrier on the OLED!
Plasma has actual ghosting, it allows for smoother low frame rate playback than OLED. The blurrier OLED as you describe it is a human problem, as it’s perceived vs actual. Objectively plasma is blurrier, but apparently not the case subjectively.
Just can't jump on the oled bandwagon with the potential burn-in problem. My monitor is on probably 14 hours a day, and I've been using my current monitor for 7 years now (and my second screen monitor is 12 years old). Not worth buying something that potentially will have burn-in within a couple years and need to be replaced. I want my hardware to last.
Having just made the switch from ASUS PG35VQ to the Corsair Xeneon the visuals are NOTICEABLE, beyond the 40-60hz increase, the colors.... oh my. Ony complaint is pixel density since I game and productivity. That said, so far I am pleased.
Looks to me like a lot of people who are on the OLED monitor bandwagon don't realize the sacrifice they are making with (poor) text clarity - due to OLED's lower pixel density. My Asus IPS monitor does 140 PPI. I'm sure as shit not gonna drop down to 96 or even 106 PPI with OLED just to get darker blacks, much as I would love to have darker blacks. My guess is most people don't realize how good text can look at 140 PPI and so don't realize what they are missing with OLED.
@dap777754 are you using your monitor as Ebook reader? I will never go back to IPS in a million years. I hate how black is grey on IPS and how most IPS monitors have light bleed. The problem with the text is there on the Oled but you barely notice it. If you look for it, then yes, you will always see it but this thing with text on Oled is overrated.
@@dap777754 OLED contrast doesn't boil down to just deep blacks, as was stated in the video. It depends on your use cases and priorities, I guess. If sharp text is of greater importance to you than ghe overall picture quality... When it comes to gaming I could probably imagine this being the case for people who mainly play text heavy RPG games. OLEDs should be thought of as displays purely intended for gaming/video consumption (reading manga/comics is also great on them) at the moment.
@@dap777754feels like you came here to complain about OLED without actually watching the video since he pointed out that the deeper blacks were the least important thing to him and listed all the other reasons he's switching to OLED. you're making a strawman argument over nothing
Cannot think of anyone better than Ali when it comes to overall technological reviews. You stand at the pinnacle and I want to thank you for all of your hard work that goes into these videos.
Optimum is my go to guy for tech when looking for a good product. He doesn't just give a "my personal" review.. but a deep down depth review into the product.
As someone who went from 1080p TN 144hz to 1440p IPS 144hz I must say I'm quite disappointed how much visual clarity I lost with the IPS panel. I hope I just have the wrong monitor or something.
I’ve tried and failed in the past to wrap my head around ghosting, motion blur, and pixel response times (including pouring over the comprehensive articles put out by blur busters) and in one video you’ve elucidated every concept succinctly. Thank you.
Unless i missed it, didn’t mention the fact that IPS are usually matte, OLED are glossy; that contributes a great deal to the “3D” feeling and greater contrast
Yes, IPS panels are covered by a protective screen that prevents them from being glossy. Glossy monitors are awful if a light is coming from a window directly toward them.
Just tried an OLED and yes the color is amazing, the response time is insane, but the darker colors being completely black - as if the pixels are turned off entirely - ends up hurting my eyes as they try to make out semi dark, vs really dark pixels - they're all the same.
@@xenuno I've found some lightly used LG OLED monitors for good prices recently. I just bought a $700 1440p240hz OLED LG monitor, it was open box condition. Heavily discounted from its $1k msrp. They are getting more abundant and cheaper.
8:40 - That last bullet point of 32" 4k with 480Hz support is basically the end game monitor for anyone who can afford the GPU that can support 4k 480 fps... Can't wait to upgrade to it in 3-4 years.
I went for the 244hz oled myself and could not be happier. FPS gaming isn’t the only thing I do on my PC and having the flexibility to play other games or watch movies is so nice.
@@_.francescodm not a monitor review but i got an ips phone coming from an Oled one and the difference is huge. phone is redmi 12c it was an upgrade from very old phone so it was still worth it.
@@_.francescodmyea OLED is amazing, I got the LG one he mentioned at the beginng, about a month ago. It's amazing it feels fast looks super colorful. I have around 200 hours playtime on it with zero issues. Definitely get OLED if you can, and they come with OLED care so you really don't have to worry about image burning. But I still recommend turning off the monitor if you are gonna be away from your pc. One last thing, the LG supports HDMI 2.1 which is great for consoles
@@Zeniyibaby I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade to OLED if you already have a 240hz 1440p ips monitor, are the colors really that much better for gaming? That it is worth it to upgrade just for the OLED?
I just upgraded from a 160hz IPS to a 240hz OLED. There really is some motion blur but tracking moving objects at medium speed is much cleaner and therefore easier on the eyes. As for Refreshrate: i dont feel much of a difference. - i actually wanted to get rid of motion blur with the OLED purchase but i guess therr is no way to get around that. You said more Hertz, but I doubt i could generate more than 240 frames in Call Of Duty, even with a 4090, cause that 3D-Engine is miles behind modern competitive games which easily go to 500fps😊
@@Tricendo oh, yeah. I should have mentioned that I play in UWQHD (3440x1440) which is about 4.5mil Pixels. I average are 220fps in Multiplayer with a i7 11700k and 32GB 3600mhz. Game is installed on a M.2 with Direct Storage compat. Coincidentally that keeps me well inside the GSync range, but I thought the 4090 could boost me higher, as I am well below 4k (which is 8mil pixels). Maybe I switch to 14th gen when it comes out. My 11th gen might be showing signs of weakness with a 4090, tho both components are not sweating with CoD
@prodigy_xd i would check to see what your cpu and gpu ultilization percentage is when playing and if your gpu isnt using 97% or more then yeah, you are cpu limited. Though it might not be as bad as it seems because the nvidia drivers requires a powerful cpu in order to max out the card (in your case a 4090. It basically wants the cpu to lap the gpu in performance to make sure its powerful enough before maxing out at 100%. Theres many videos showing thats the case when using a 7900xtx in the same rig as the amd card will be ultilized higher (thus yielding higher fps in some games) bc it doesn't have that dumb driver that requires a powerful cpu. So you'll want the fastest cpu to get the most out of the 4090. you seem like a plug-in-play type of guy so I would recommend a 7800X3D with 6400MT/S ddr5 ram and a b650 mobo and if that's too much then your can get a 5800X3D which is the platform I'm currently on. When playing overwatch 2 with everything low except textures high and high anisotropic filtering I get 580fps avg and my gpu (3070ti) is at 98% utilization and my cpu is at 30% utilization. I'm getting a 4090 this weekend and getting the lg 27" 1440p 240hz oled. I can let u know what my fps is matching your graphics settings and matching your res using the dsr factor in the control panel.
@@Tricendo I did some more testing and also observed all cores using RTSS (afterburner). My CPU "main" core is usually at 59%, other cores are at 30% and probably not used by the game. Frequency is 4600mhz stock. GPU is not maxed with Ultra details and DLSS Quality. Hovers around 70%. When i disable DLSS the GPU uses 97% and is "voltage limited". So it can't even rasterize "CoD Ultra in non-4k" with more than 160FPS. Not saying it should, but i don't find CoD visually that impressive that i shouldn't be able to reach more. What is dragging down FPS the most in CoD is when you set Textures to HIGH. There is something in there that kills the performance. All while they don't look much better than NORMAL. When i then turn down settings to medium-ish (textures and shadow to normal, no AO, medium AA, no Physics/Weather/Water etc.. what you could call "competitive settings") i also get the GPU usage down to 70% - but without upscaling. Pure rasterization and doesn't look much worse. Then i also get back to the 200 realm, however, i never get above 210. and during all theses multiplayer tests my CPU was not once under pressure. hmmm.. that's why i said in my first comment that CoD engine "is miles behind modern competitive games". It probably isn't made with 240hz in mind. I guess they are happy when it can push 120 on a 4K Console and dont optimized much more beyond that.
@@prodigy_xddo you have the LG 45 oled ultrawide, hows the response compared between 120 to 240fps? I got a C2 atm. Also, pixel per inch? Isnt 81 too low and noticeable?
So, all OLED gaming monitors will have same RBG subpixels? Even in future? I much typing and reading on Windows. I don't want spend $1k on monitor with blurry text.
LG said they are working on RGB pixel layout Oleds for 2025, apparently. That would fix the issue. Kind of bummed myself since I wanted to purchase a new monitor this year but do plenty of work on my pc as well, so blurry text is not an option. So I guess IPS it is or waiting another year.
Thanks for these videos. I appreciate that you keep your videos focused on one topic and go medium-deep instead of doing a half hour long video with 10 topics. Thanks again!
Shame about the quality of text and the potential screen burn-in on the OLED. I work from home, which means I need to read a lot, and certain elements will be on screen for ~8 hours per day (which I don't feel like you accounted for in your 1.5 year burn in prediction), but also use my monitors for playing games. I won't be switching to OLED and instead wait for alternative technology. Thanks for the review.
Flicker with VRR is the final nail in the coffin for me. The shorter lifespan due to burn in was already bad enough but compromised VRR is dealbreaker for me.
LG 27GR95QE PRO TIP: This may work for all monitors. Even if the HDR settings grays out the SDR settings. This tip can help you recalibrate your monitors for HDR even better. All your calibratied SDR settings carry over when HDR is on or active. If your using an HDMI cable to connect to your devices and receiving black crush/ too dark when using HDR. Turn off HDR> in SDR picture settings turn your HDMI level to high (not low) turn back on HDR and restart your game app. Everything should be fix. This isn’t an option when using DP. If you don’t believe all your SDR settings carry over to HDR. Turn your SDR settings completely RED than which over to HDR and see that the red is still active.
@@vahidghiasvand9087 LG TVs or TVs in general usually don’t gray out options when HDR is active like monitors. I honestly don’t know why companies do this. So you should be able to adjust both HDR and SDR settings separately. Just remember to have HDR on/activated before adjusting the settings. Otherwise your just adjusting SDR.
I got basically all different panel types from Oled to TN in use atm on different monitors and devices. I think Oled is nice but it gets hyped up way too much. A good LCD display is plenty good enough for many applications for generally quite a bit cheaper.
Backlight strobing is a game changer. It essentially eliminates motion blur and you see perfectly clear frames. The only downside is the reduced brightness.
When is 'The Best ITX cases V4' video? Any time soon??? Love the video BTW and keep the amazing content going!!! (Also what are your thoughts on the 4070 price cuts)
Class vid - thanks man. I’ve just picked up the 32” XG32VC. Noticeably slow compared to the XG27WQ I had before it and ofc not in the same league of pixel performance of the PG259QNR before that. However, the immersion is excellent and I’ll be sure to wait for the rumoured 32” 240hz 4K OLED panels in the not to distant future!
@@hamadkhalifa6104 That's your problem? What about the 32 inches? There is no point on having a monitor at that point. 32 inches to sit half a meter is WAAAAAAY to much! I do currently have a 24 inch one and I wish I could get a smaller one. 24 inch 1440p is the way to go! Currently, I'm thinking to get AOC Q24G2A/BK! It's IPS, 23.8", 2560x1440 and 165Hz!
This is by far the best comparison I have seen, great work. To be honest I was almost fully convinced to get the OLED, but then you talked about the text and I use the monitor for working 8 h+ per day, so it is a deal breaker for me. Thanks!
PWM, VRR flicker, at least ULMB is optional, OLED is awful for your eyes, burn-in is also real but definitely more situational. It just doesn't have enough substantial redeeming qualities in a world where Mini-LED IPS panels exist (VA is a subject to smearing and VRR flicker unfortunately) it just has to have a full backlight mode to completely eliminate PWM and be able to choose more suitable mode depending on your needs.
The OLED model is very nice, if exclusively used for gaming. The problem with the text clarity (not a problem of OLED but the specific panel that uses an extra "W" LED) and the danger of burn in (e.g. regarding the task bar), make it unsuitable for me, who wants to use a monitor for things other than gaming. BTW, the out of the box calibration of the OLED model is not nearly as good as that of the IPS model. Regarding Asus' design, what were they thinking when they gave the monitor a lit up chin? That is so distracting and must be super annoying when playing in low light conditions. I hope that all the lighting gimmicks the monitor offers can be turned off.
I'm concerned about the burn-in, especially for games with static menus like Hearts of Iron 4, Civ, etc... Do you play games like that? Is there still no burn in at the Windows bar?
Im a StarCitizen player and i think depending on the Game you play an OLED Panel can be a gamechanger. I mean if you are in Space, then perfect Blacks will most likely hit different. Ive seen a good OLED 3440x1440 Monitor für just 720€ lately... When they are even cheaper in 2 or 3 years i will definitely buy one of these.
One thing that you (and many other outlets) fail to mention about OLED is the flicker. Where the only advice given to get rid of it is to either disable G-Sync or limit your frame rate.
Just made the switch from 10 year old TN panel to 240hz IPS and this already blew my mind but I can also use it perfectly during the day for office work without any worries about burn in or textclarity. For immersive single player I can still play on my Oled 4k TV.
I love CRTs for their depth, no native resolution, and zero motion blur and also mainly use an IPS panel for most things but man, having owned 2 OLED phones and an OLED Switch, I want an OLED monitor for PC and console.
One thing that you didn't mention is HDR gaming which while only some games have great native implementation, you can make some games look amazing with Windows auto HDR. Overwatch here pops out even more when I enable HDR on my LG C3 which complements the clean cartoony artstyle. Just make sure to use HGIG if possible to retain the most accurate image.
That´s not true. Many Games have great HDR! Or do you play only on PC and it is that bad? On consoles HDR is on nearly every big Game, but also on smaller more and more. Auto HDR is crap. HDR is about Dynamic Range, more Colors and also more details. Fake HDR is not the same.
@@GokuTributeZ Yes I play on PC. HDR is way better on console. I only have maybe 4 games which look good in native HDR. About Auto HDR I moreso meant you can make older titles have a bit more pop. It's not a replacement to real HDR by any means. But seeing Tomb Raider Legend (a 2007 game) for example in any form of HDR is awesome.
I know oled is great but my iphone has oled screen and my monitor has VA and I don't see much of a difference and if it was at least similar price and not that led is 300$ and oled is 1000$
Thanks for the clarification around the text usage scenario, I was all very excited until then, but definitely that's a deal breaker! Shame, this looked awesome.
or instead of turning off cleartype, CONFIGURE cleartype instead!! I think cleartype allows you to choose which pixel layout your monitor has, and hence your text will be correctly rendered! cheers
@@SreenikethanI yeah, oleds use a triangular sub pixel layout that windows doesn't natively support. You can improve it, but it won't be perfect. Having said that the 1440p ultrawide from Samsung looked great to me for windows text and I consider myself fussy
Have the Alienware here. I felt like the price, Dolby Vision and easier warranty made it more compelling purchase to me over the Asus. I had to do an advanced warranty exchange with my AW3423DW and they made it sooooo smooth. All they did was ship me a new monitor (which I then sold) and had me use the shipping box plus a provided pre-paid shipping label to ship back the old AW3423DW.
Been using the AW3423DW since January. And even though I have an OLED tv, the change over to OLED on my monitor as well was just as mind blowing as when I did it on TV. It's literally night and day.
@@chinezut1942 Well I had an IPS before, and it's just not nearly as good when it comes to showing colors and blacks, things just look grey or washed out. I mostly play singleplayer these days, so having HDR on top of it is just next level.
@9:30 biggest reason I'll stick with my IPS. If you have 20/20 or better near vision you'll definitely notice the weird color fringing on text and get annoying. Also, annoying issues with ABL and using it as desktop monitor to display white backgrounds for long periods of time like spreadsheets other applications that don't support dark mode or themes.
@@budbin With a 3rd party app you can set ClearType to greyscale, but font rendering is pretty bad then. It used to be good until XP, but from Vista/7 onwards it looks awful (I guess that's why MS removed the option). Not all applications honor this setting, so you'll still get subpixel rendering in some apps. It's also a system wide setting, it can't be configured per monitor (which sucks if you have an RGB and an BGR monitor).
man aside from the very informative and well put together content, I just can't with the color composition and shots from your videos, it looks insanely good!
I would love to see Zowie switching to OLED and giving it dyac but I highly doubt that though. Would definitely want to see microled one day come to monitors and see what it could do
@@James-cr8mt You can just turn the pixels totally off to get BFI/DYAC. And as he says OLED doesn't have that extra brightness to play with. In the future when we get brighter OLEDs it should be possible. Or when any other self omitting panel technology we get in the future.
dude your content is second to none, I dont know if you have a team working with you or you do it all yourself but either way its incredible.. I find myself wanting to emulate your entire setup and peripherals.... you just need a set of Vanatoo T0 powered desktop speakers.. trust me they are worth 1000 dollars and they are significatly cheaper then that.
The OLED here sounds insane, the only problem is it's not 4k. I had such a hard time buying a 4k monitor because here in Australia, there's no high-end options, all the expensive monitors have significant drawbacks. The 4k X28 monitor I got is an IPS and it's only HDR400, you can get some OLED 4k monitors here but for some reason their mostly big 42 inch ones and at weird refresh rates like 138hz. I just want a 27 inch 4k OLED that's at least 144hz with Adaptive Sync and good HDR, but for some reason there's nothing available.
I still think it's strange that black frame insertion hasn't been implemented in these monitors. Maybe they're intentionally holding it back for the second gen.
27GR95QE is already very dim. Black frame insertion makes picture significantly dimmer so this simply wouldn't work. But in case of PG27AQN... yeah, it's a fail af it hasn't got it.
Hey All - Quick Review of Asus PG27AQDM OLED (I own x 2) MP Verdict - Absolutely, Great Monitor! Response, Colours, Refresh rate and brightness are superb. SP Verdict - Absolutely No Way! Matte coating kills Immersion. It is way stronger and worse than anyone have said so far. Any white/light colours show very strong film of grainy, uneven coating. Advice - Unless you're playing colour intensive MP only, wait for Glossy finish and then 100% buy. I will sell both of mine as soon as that happens and do the same. You are welcome.
OLED may be the best tech for gaming monitors, but if you hold onto monitors for at least 4 or 5 years like I do, then burn in is a deal breaker. MicroLED is around the corner and I would honestly recommend waiting for it over buying an OLED gaming monitor for the majority of people.
Hey Optimum great unbiased review man! I had seen the video also when it came out and I happened to land on it again today and considering the fact that it has been 7 months until the video release, it felt like a decent point at which I could come and ask if you have any shenanigans or Burn ins to report. Does the monitor still remain flawless or you happen to have witnessed any issues with it (Always speaking about the OLED one
I got my oled ultra wide when I was playing loads of star citizen… you can see every little star where as my lg ultra wide ips kind of just blurred them out compared to the oled. Cannot go back, it is too damn beautiful
You make a good point about brightness & the effect it can have on your eyes, after a long weekend of gaming my eyes are burning. Over the many years i have turned down the effects & brightness in games, to give my eyes a little comfort.
Great review! I’ve been using MSI MPG 271QRX for 3 weeks now, and while it has some solid features, I’ve been really disappointed with a few things. One major issue is the black screen delay when alt-tabbing during fullscreen games, which lasts for 2-3 seconds. Disabling DSC solves it but drops the refresh rate to 240hz, which defeats the purpose of having a higher refresh rate monitor in the first place. Coming from an Asus IPS 360hz panel, I have to say I’m not impressed with the motion clarity on this OLED, especially for fast-paced FPS games like CS and Deadlock. It just doesn’t keep up, and I’m switching back to an IPS/TN panel. Sad to say, I feel like OLED might not be the best route for competitive gaming right now.
@@kahunaseal I run all my games in borderless windowed mode because of the DSC alt tab delay. i have no issues anymore with this screen other than the 16 hour forced pixelclean. But how many times do you really use this display more than 16 hours in one session?
i don't know.. i'm too scared of the burn factor... the thing is very expensive, for that amount of money i want to feel safe it will last long when i purchase it
Agreed. That’s why I want now iPad and think about it’s better wait for iPads with oled or buy ips when I will be able. As I know only negative things about ips compared to oled is response time and colours. But I feel like it’s not critical things. iPad oled will cost expensive plus need change display after some time at oled original and it will cost much money
To me IPS still looks great and performs great, just not as well in dark environments. IPS daytime. OLED nighttime. 😆. Overall I still think MiniLed is the superior technology for now. OLED will be best when price comes down and burn-in is non existent.
Thank you for answering all the questions I had! This video definitely convinced me to buy the IPS 360Hz simply because I will have to look at a lot of text throughout the day when not gaming on this thing.
Great review. Can you explain how they have 'extremely good HDR' when their max brightness is only 248 nits or whatever? I thought the higher tiers of HDR relied on the monitor being able to go pretty bright.
The peak brightness isn't 248 nits on HDR, it's much higher. Also, HDR requires good contrast even more than high peak brightness - high brightness doesn't do you any good if your "black" is bright grey. Major additional benefit of HDR is that is has far more image information: better colors, more nuance on lightning etc.
For HDR to make sense you need to be in a dark environment. It's all about the contract between zero blacks, and shiny whites that pop out at you plus the more realistic colour pallette. 250 nits is already quite bright but when there's for example a flash or reflection off a puddle on my LG 42 C3 it gets up to like 700 nits. For bright viewing you should be running SDR with calibrated settings.
I have been playing with LG C1 48" OLED for about 2000-2500 hours mostly Apex and Destiny 2 and i have zero burn-in on my screen. Not even from HUDs or such.
Liked and subbed , will have to check out some more of your channel . I’m an old person ,62 , but I would still like to build another gaming machine someday . I seriously thought I’d die of old age before oled was a thing with computer monitors. Great seeing options out there , and hopefully more in the future
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holy that extra comparison with the motion blur effect was amazing, thank you for that!
That's what makes this channel so great. He gives you the digestible content similar to Linus but provides the tech like Gamer's Nexus or Hardware Unboxed does in an aesthetic similar to Dave2D. It's like the best of all 4 channels combined into 1.
I always come here for monitor recommendations and comparisons. Dude is top tier. 👍🏽
Yea OLED's are great for gaming, its like TN panels motion blur. almost no ghosting or delay.
@@georgepierre3594 Tn have huge ghosting vs oled... by x8 times. That is why BFI Dyac OR mbr you need to use it reduces ghosting for 50% Buy TC oled 120hz and tes tn 240hz... u will see oled is clear.
holy what?
Great explanation, finally understood the difference between ghosting vs motion blur!
For real, most reviewers take this knowledge for granted and don't explain it at all.
@@Dionyzos or don't really know themselves (few are even close to the level of Tim @HUB)
@@MrStoffzor tim is really great with monitor reviews
Nobody mentioned here comes closed to the extensive knowledge of Aperture Grille or BattleNonSense and ofc BlurBusters.
@@Dionyzos You could also learn how to use Google if you really wanted to know the difference and you felt like that information was withheld from you. Just saying.
My bank is forcing me the unsubscribe soon
He doesn't do any sponsors btw
Bank is squicky clean
Same
Stay broke , gaming aint for weak💪😤
My wallet is crying after all these videos 😅
OLED manufacturers really need to pay Microsoft to implement ClearType for their sub pixel layouts. I always notice how text isn’t rendered nicely with sub pixel layouts that aren’t supported by ClearType, so I don’t really want to get an OLED monitor (even though I love OLED and have one for my TV)
With 4K resolution the text without ClearType actually looks pretty decent. You can disable it easily.
@@VladK-1 Yes, it does look better with ClearType disabled, but it's just not as good as an something with ClearType. Could I live without ClearType? Yeah, probably. But it's just really disappointing that ClearType exists yet it can't be used with the incredible new display types that are on the market.
That’s the main reason I returned mine…using for work gave me headaches.
@@resistenciaviva1 so u mean text clarity in OLED is worse that it in IPS? how worse?
@@MrLaurichu yes but its getting better with the new ones so keep looking.
I can't get past the possibility of burn in on the OLED, its a deal breaker for me at the moment until OLED's become standard in the next 2 to 3 years and they improve the technology, for the moment OLED is the breakthrough technology and imo its better to wait for it! IPS has its issues but its largely dependable and LG offers great IPS choices, im sticking wth that for now.
You can prevent burn in just requires a lot of effort on your side like doing all the possible counter measures to prevent it. There are also select monitors that do offer burn in warranty, MSI's 360hz qd-oled they offer a 3 year burn in warranty.
@@ollypearce7532 A typical monitor user has been sitting at it for more than 5 years. or even 7-10 (why change if it works great?) he works, plays or sits on the Internet for 4-12 hours a day.and often leaves it on at night or when it goes off, and sometimes the monitor does not go off. I have this often on win 10 and win 11. there is no pattern. Therefore, ice is for the rich or those who will blow away dust particles from it and take care of it as a child, and not as another monitor. I see this as a fear of burnout.
@@ollypearce7532 I dont need 3 year warranty. I need IPS. My previous IPS didnt breake after 12 years. It still works
@@ollypearce7532 What effort?
People are scared but look at the testing Rtings is doing. It takes a really long time to have a noticeable effect. With that in mind, Rtings is also TRYING to cause burn-in. The likelihood you will experience burn-in in any meaningful amount is unlikely.
Hoping to see some further regular updates on burn in if any ever shows up.
There will be no burn-in
If you're using it for media consumption and not static images for long periods of time i.e. documents, articles etc then there shouldn't be burn in.
@@GeneralAeon what if you do only that? Programming. Why there are no new monitors for editors and programmers
@@Donbros then why would you need an OLED?
@@RESURRECT2 yes there will be.
Just disable clear type in windows. Not all apps react to it equally but chrome renders text in grayscale really well.
is that for the oled?
I dont think i've ever seen someone simulate an actual eye for the motion blur comparison. awesome feature!
So nice that you bring up this about perceived motion blur even if the OLED has near instantaneous pixel respons time! I remember comparing an OLED TV from 2017 with my Plasma TV from 2010 (both at 60 Hz) and thinknig motion blur must be so much better on the OLED with its short pixel response time. Oh, my what a surpsise when motion in games looked so much blurrier on the OLED!
oled does not have good motion blur , some ips ads panels are better in that aspect actually
That’s because plasma has actual ghosting making a smoother perceived motion blur.
Plasma has actual ghosting, it allows for smoother low frame rate playback than OLED. The blurrier OLED as you describe it is a human problem, as it’s perceived vs actual. Objectively plasma is blurrier, but apparently not the case subjectively.
Just can't jump on the oled bandwagon with the potential burn-in problem. My monitor is on probably 14 hours a day, and I've been using my current monitor for 7 years now (and my second screen monitor is 12 years old). Not worth buying something that potentially will have burn-in within a couple years and need to be replaced. I want my hardware to last.
ive had a oled monitor for 4 months now zero burn in i do have no wallpaper and all my apps and task bar on the second monitor and i have zero burn in
i think you can go with a mini led monitor it gets close to a oled contrast wise
@@pipotam 4 months is not enough, burn-in will strat to show its effect after a year or 2 years of using it
4 months is nothing mate@@pipotam
@@pipotam original comment: I've had mine for 7 years
This genius: I've had mine for 4 months
I just love the technical analysis you always give us but also never skimp on the quality and beauty of the videos. Big love, keep it up!!!
hm
Having just made the switch from ASUS PG35VQ to the Corsair Xeneon the visuals are NOTICEABLE, beyond the 40-60hz increase, the colors.... oh my. Ony complaint is pixel density since I game and productivity. That said, so far I am pleased.
Looks to me like a lot of people who are on the OLED monitor bandwagon don't realize the sacrifice they are making with (poor) text clarity - due to OLED's lower pixel density. My Asus IPS monitor does 140 PPI. I'm sure as shit not gonna drop down to 96 or even 106 PPI with OLED just to get darker blacks, much as I would love to have darker blacks. My guess is most people don't realize how good text can look at 140 PPI and so don't realize what they are missing with OLED.
@@dap777754 oh I was aware and the trade off is worth it. If I had the space I’d just sit a tad further from my monitor.
@dap777754 are you using your monitor as Ebook reader? I will never go back to IPS in a million years. I hate how black is grey on IPS and how most IPS monitors have light bleed. The problem with the text is there on the Oled but you barely notice it. If you look for it, then yes, you will always see it but this thing with text on Oled is overrated.
@@dap777754 OLED contrast doesn't boil down to just deep blacks, as was stated in the video. It depends on your use cases and priorities, I guess. If sharp text is of greater importance to you than ghe overall picture quality... When it comes to gaming I could probably imagine this being the case for people who mainly play text heavy RPG games. OLEDs should be thought of as displays purely intended for gaming/video consumption (reading manga/comics is also great on them) at the moment.
@@dap777754feels like you came here to complain about OLED without actually watching the video since he pointed out that the deeper blacks were the least important thing to him and listed all the other reasons he's switching to OLED. you're making a strawman argument over nothing
Cannot think of anyone better than Ali when it comes to overall technological reviews. You stand at the pinnacle and I want to thank you for all of your hard work that goes into these videos.
AND he’s handsome.
there's a whole team behind this channel 💀
@@jorge9199 oh when does he say that?
@@jorge9199it’s just me dude
@@jorge9199 you must enjoy spreading misinformation
Optimum is my go to guy for tech when looking for a good product. He doesn't just give a "my personal" review.. but a deep down depth review into the product.
Man the bump from 1080p TN 144z to 1440p OLED 240hz Is going to be insane, can’t wait.
im already on 1080p tn 240hz, so no reason for me to upgrade, im glad i went for the 240hz option back then!
@@budgetking2591 lol
@@budgetking2591 eh?
@@budgetking2591 that's just such a funny statement to read
As someone who went from 1080p TN 144hz to 1440p IPS 144hz I must say I'm quite disappointed how much visual clarity I lost with the IPS panel. I hope I just have the wrong monitor or something.
The reading texts bit at the end is an eye opener !
The in depth explanations in this video are amazing. Dropping bangers as always!
Ever since PS Vita I'm in love with OLED.
The only thing holding me back right now from getting an OLED is the inevitable burn-in, if that ever gets solved, I would buy one in an instant
I’ve tried and failed in the past to wrap my head around ghosting, motion blur, and pixel response times (including pouring over the comprehensive articles put out by blur busters) and in one video you’ve elucidated every concept succinctly. Thank you.
You don’t hold back at all in any of your videos that you make. They’re always so detailed and very well presented.
Unless i missed it, didn’t mention the fact that IPS are usually matte, OLED are glossy; that contributes a great deal to the “3D” feeling and greater contrast
Yes, IPS panels are covered by a protective screen that prevents them from being glossy. Glossy monitors are awful if a light is coming from a window directly toward them.
I just imagine how far they could have taken CRT if they've kept working on it and improving it. No input lag, and amazing tracking.
I still prefer mines over my oled. (2070sb) Mostly just use the oled for shows.
Probably not far since it uses vacuum tubes
plasma died too soon
SED, my beloved...
it would of gone nowhere, they are the reason why people to this day say being too close to one is bad for your eyes.
Just tried an OLED and yes the color is amazing, the response time is insane, but the darker colors being completely black - as if the pixels are turned off entirely - ends up hurting my eyes as they try to make out semi dark, vs really dark pixels - they're all the same.
Yes..too dim
Oh man I'll probably be picking up an oled 5-6 yrs from now when I upgrade to am5 but seeing how far display technology has come is truly astounding.
same, saving up now lol
I just love oled. I can't wait for it to become more affordable over time.
I've been waiting for 3 years now...
LG is selling the 48" OLED 4k monitor (not TV) for $900 vs the normal $1500 up until Nov 5th of 2023. Just ordered one due in next Wed
@@xenuno I've found some lightly used LG OLED monitors for good prices recently. I just bought a $700 1440p240hz OLED LG monitor, it was open box condition. Heavily discounted from its $1k msrp. They are getting more abundant and cheaper.
My oled monitor is a repurposed 1440p tablet that maxes out at 30 hertz ☠️
@@xenunothat dose sound reasonable but God damn that's basically a TV. How big is your desk bruh?
8:40 - That last bullet point of 32" 4k with 480Hz support is basically the end game monitor for anyone who can afford the GPU that can support 4k 480 fps...
Can't wait to upgrade to it in 3-4 years.
That's the dfr display, it's 240hz at 4k and it drops to 1080p to do 480hz. likely going to be my next monitor
Yes for casuals, while for competitive gaming you will still want 1080p or 1440p
@@R-py6uf I know it been too long but what do you mean? Its a 4k 240hz with a 1080p 480hz option. So it has 1080p for competitive gaming too.
I went for the 244hz oled myself and could not be happier. FPS gaming isn’t the only thing I do on my PC and having the flexibility to play other games or watch movies is so nice.
so OLED is good? because I literally want to try an OLED monitor with and High refresh rate
@@_.francescodm
not a monitor review but i got an ips phone coming from an Oled one and the difference is huge.
phone is redmi 12c
it was an upgrade from very old phone so it was still worth it.
@@_.francescodmyea OLED is amazing, I got the LG one he mentioned at the beginng, about a month ago. It's amazing it feels fast looks super colorful. I have around 200 hours playtime on it with zero issues. Definitely get OLED if you can, and they come with OLED care so you really don't have to worry about image burning. But I still recommend turning off the monitor if you are gonna be away from your pc. One last thing, the LG supports HDMI 2.1 which is great for consoles
@@Zeniyibaby I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade to OLED if you already have a 240hz 1440p ips monitor, are the colors really that much better for gaming? That it is worth it to upgrade just for the OLED?
Are u sure there is not gonna get burn ins? Cuz i really want to get a oled display but im so fkn scared for burn ins😳
I just upgraded from a 160hz IPS to a 240hz OLED. There really is some motion blur but tracking moving objects at medium speed is much cleaner and therefore easier on the eyes. As for Refreshrate: i dont feel much of a difference. - i actually wanted to get rid of motion blur with the OLED purchase but i guess therr is no way to get around that. You said more Hertz, but I doubt i could generate more than 240 frames in Call Of Duty, even with a 4090, cause that 3D-Engine is miles behind modern competitive games which easily go to 500fps😊
What's your cpu? I get 280 on cod with a 3070ti at 1080p at normal/low settings
@@Tricendo oh, yeah. I should have mentioned that I play in UWQHD (3440x1440) which is about 4.5mil Pixels. I average are 220fps in Multiplayer with a i7 11700k and 32GB 3600mhz. Game is installed on a M.2 with Direct Storage compat.
Coincidentally that keeps me well inside the GSync range, but I thought the 4090 could boost me higher, as I am well below 4k (which is 8mil pixels).
Maybe I switch to 14th gen when it comes out. My 11th gen might be showing signs of weakness with a 4090, tho both components are not sweating with CoD
@prodigy_xd i would check to see what your cpu and gpu ultilization percentage is when playing and if your gpu isnt using 97% or more then yeah, you are cpu limited. Though it might not be as bad as it seems because the nvidia drivers requires a powerful cpu in order to max out the card (in your case a 4090. It basically wants the cpu to lap the gpu in performance to make sure its powerful enough before maxing out at 100%. Theres many videos showing thats the case when using a 7900xtx in the same rig as the amd card will be ultilized higher (thus yielding higher fps in some games) bc it doesn't have that dumb driver that requires a powerful cpu. So you'll want the fastest cpu to get the most out of the 4090. you seem like a plug-in-play type of guy so I would recommend a 7800X3D with 6400MT/S ddr5 ram and a b650 mobo and if that's too much then your can get a 5800X3D which is the platform I'm currently on. When playing overwatch 2 with everything low except textures high and high anisotropic filtering I get 580fps avg and my gpu (3070ti) is at 98% utilization and my cpu is at 30% utilization. I'm getting a 4090 this weekend and getting the lg 27" 1440p 240hz oled. I can let u know what my fps is matching your graphics settings and matching your res using the dsr factor in the control panel.
@@Tricendo I did some more testing and also observed all cores using RTSS (afterburner). My CPU "main" core is usually at 59%, other cores are at 30% and probably not used by the game. Frequency is 4600mhz stock.
GPU is not maxed with Ultra details and DLSS Quality. Hovers around 70%. When i disable DLSS the GPU uses 97% and is "voltage limited".
So it can't even rasterize "CoD Ultra in non-4k" with more than 160FPS. Not saying it should, but i don't find CoD visually that impressive that i shouldn't be able to reach more. What is dragging down FPS the most in CoD is when you set Textures to HIGH. There is something in there that kills the performance. All while they don't look much better than NORMAL.
When i then turn down settings to medium-ish (textures and shadow to normal, no AO, medium AA, no Physics/Weather/Water etc.. what you could call "competitive settings") i also get the GPU usage down to 70% - but without upscaling. Pure rasterization and doesn't look much worse. Then i also get back to the 200 realm, however, i never get above 210.
and during all theses multiplayer tests my CPU was not once under pressure. hmmm.. that's why i said in my first comment that CoD engine "is miles behind modern competitive games". It probably isn't made with 240hz in mind. I guess they are happy when it can push 120 on a 4K Console and dont optimized much more beyond that.
@@prodigy_xddo you have the LG 45 oled ultrawide, hows the response compared between 120 to 240fps? I got a C2 atm.
Also, pixel per inch? Isnt 81 too low and noticeable?
So, all OLED gaming monitors will have same RBG subpixels? Even in future? I much typing and reading on Windows. I don't want spend $1k on monitor with blurry text.
get 4k oled
I have yet to find blurry texts on my 4K OLED.
Doubt you would see it on ips either. Theres a lot the human eye cant see @Beamer_i4_M50
LG said they are working on RGB pixel layout Oleds for 2025, apparently. That would fix the issue. Kind of bummed myself since I wanted to purchase a new monitor this year but do plenty of work on my pc as well, so blurry text is not an option. So I guess IPS it is or waiting another year.
Thanks for these videos. I appreciate that you keep your videos focused on one topic and go medium-deep instead of doing a half hour long video with 10 topics. Thanks again!
Shame about the quality of text and the potential screen burn-in on the OLED.
I work from home, which means I need to read a lot, and certain elements will be on screen for ~8 hours per day (which I don't feel like you accounted for in your 1.5 year burn in prediction), but also use my monitors for playing games.
I won't be switching to OLED and instead wait for alternative technology.
Thanks for the review.
Flicker with VRR is the final nail in the coffin for me. The shorter lifespan due to burn in was already bad enough but compromised VRR is dealbreaker for me.
I love how you just always have some insane tracer clip playing in the background
I was just comparing monitors through both of your OLED and IPS reviews, so this video comes at the exact time I needed it.
What did you buy
LG 27GR95QE PRO TIP:
This may work for all monitors. Even if the HDR settings grays out the SDR settings. This tip can help you recalibrate your monitors for HDR even better.
All your calibratied SDR settings carry over when HDR is on or active.
If your using an HDMI cable to connect to your devices and receiving black crush/ too dark when using HDR.
Turn off HDR> in SDR picture settings turn your HDMI level to high (not low) turn back on HDR and restart your game app. Everything should be fix. This isn’t an option when using DP.
If you don’t believe all your SDR settings carry over to HDR. Turn your SDR settings completely RED than which over to HDR and see that the red is still active.
Also works for LG tv ? When i use hdr on hbo, everything turns black
@@vahidghiasvand9087 LG TVs or TVs in general usually don’t gray out options when HDR is active like monitors. I honestly don’t know why companies do this. So you should be able to adjust both HDR and SDR settings separately. Just remember to have HDR on/activated before adjusting the settings. Otherwise your just adjusting SDR.
Thanks
was anticipating this follow up ever since the original OLED review dropped, thank you!
I got basically all different panel types from Oled to TN in use atm on different monitors and devices. I think Oled is nice but it gets hyped up way too much. A good LCD display is plenty good enough for many applications for generally quite a bit cheaper.
Can you say which panel type feels best for any activity or time of day, eye stress etc?
@@TheZiom224 im not sure if the panel type got any impact on that at all.
what about the burning and ghosting on oled in productivity use, with static windows for 12h ? is this issue resolved with oled technology or not ?
Backlight strobing is a game changer. It essentially eliminates motion blur and you see perfectly clear frames. The only downside is the reduced brightness.
yea but the pg27aqn with ULMB 2 enabled is still brighter than the lg oled 240hz at max brightness
When is 'The Best ITX cases V4' video? Any time soon??? Love the video BTW and keep the amazing content going!!! (Also what are your thoughts on the 4070 price cuts)
Class vid - thanks man. I’ve just picked up the 32” XG32VC. Noticeably slow compared to the XG27WQ I had before it and ofc not in the same league of pixel performance of the PG259QNR before that. However, the immersion is excellent and I’ll be sure to wait for the rumoured 32” 240hz 4K OLED panels in the not to distant future!
Why would you need 4K 240Hz monitor ? Not many games / GPUs can handle 240Hz at 4K
@@hamadkhalifa6104it's mostly just marketing
@@hamadkhalifa6104 That's your problem? What about the 32 inches? There is no point on having a monitor at that point. 32 inches to sit half a meter is WAAAAAAY to much! I do currently have a 24 inch one and I wish I could get a smaller one.
24 inch 1440p is the way to go! Currently, I'm thinking to get AOC Q24G2A/BK! It's IPS, 23.8", 2560x1440 and 165Hz!
@@godnyx117surprise surprise, some people have different preferences than you
@@godnyx117 24 inches it TOO SMALL. Absolute maximum for 1080p displays. 4K 27inch is true quality
This is by far the best comparison I have seen, great work. To be honest I was almost fully convinced to get the OLED, but then you talked about the text and I use the monitor for working 8 h+ per day, so it is a deal breaker for me. Thanks!
PWM, VRR flicker, at least ULMB is optional, OLED is awful for your eyes, burn-in is also real but definitely more situational.
It just doesn't have enough substantial redeeming qualities in a world where Mini-LED IPS panels exist (VA is a subject to smearing and VRR flicker unfortunately) it just has to have a full backlight mode to completely eliminate PWM and be able to choose more suitable mode depending on your needs.
The OLED model is very nice, if exclusively used for gaming. The problem with the text clarity (not a problem of OLED but the specific panel that uses an extra "W" LED) and the danger of burn in (e.g. regarding the task bar), make it unsuitable for me, who wants to use a monitor for things other than gaming. BTW, the out of the box calibration of the OLED model is not nearly as good as that of the IPS model. Regarding Asus' design, what were they thinking when they gave the monitor a lit up chin? That is so distracting and must be super annoying when playing in low light conditions. I hope that all the lighting gimmicks the monitor offers can be turned off.
I'm concerned about the burn-in, especially for games with static menus like Hearts of Iron 4, Civ, etc... Do you play games like that? Is there still no burn in at the Windows bar?
Very wonderful explanation of ghosting vs motion blur.
Im a StarCitizen player and i think depending on the Game you play an OLED Panel can be a gamechanger. I mean if you are in Space, then perfect Blacks will most likely hit different. Ive seen a good OLED 3440x1440 Monitor für just 720€ lately... When they are even cheaper in 2 or 3 years i will definitely buy one of these.
One thing that you (and many other outlets) fail to mention about OLED is the flicker. Where the only advice given to get rid of it is to either disable G-Sync or limit your frame rate.
Only problem with oled is poor warranty only 2 years is way too short for the price you have to pay.
That's because 2 years is about when you can expect burn in to be extremely noticeable.
Just made the switch from 10 year old TN panel to 240hz IPS and this already blew my mind but I can also use it perfectly during the day for office work without any worries about burn in or textclarity.
For immersive single player I can still play on my Oled 4k TV.
Hello, can you please tell me what 240 hz monitor you bought? thanks
Glossy screens when? That is something keeping me from diving in.
I love CRTs for their depth, no native resolution, and zero motion blur and also mainly use an IPS panel for most things but man, having owned 2 OLED phones and an OLED Switch, I want an OLED monitor for PC and console.
So which one to choose if I play Overwatch? Asus 1440p 360hz or Asus 240hz OLED? The OLED seem much nicer overall though.
Never before seen response time graphs for me. Top notch 👌
One thing that you didn't mention is HDR gaming which while only some games have great native implementation, you can make some games look amazing with Windows auto HDR. Overwatch here pops out even more when I enable HDR on my LG C3 which complements the clean cartoony artstyle. Just make sure to use HGIG if possible to retain the most accurate image.
That´s not true. Many Games have great HDR! Or do you play only on PC and it is that bad? On consoles HDR is on nearly every big Game, but also on smaller more and more. Auto HDR is crap. HDR is about Dynamic Range, more Colors and also more details. Fake HDR is not the same.
@@GokuTributeZ Yes I play on PC. HDR is way better on console. I only have maybe 4 games which look good in native HDR. About Auto HDR I moreso meant you can make older titles have a bit more pop. It's not a replacement to real HDR by any means. But seeing Tomb Raider Legend (a 2007 game) for example in any form of HDR is awesome.
After switching to OLED i dont think i could ever go back to IPS. Colors on OLED are so insane.
Nah you could. I game between OLED and IPS all the time. IPS is still great.
@Ferrislilly Oled isn't that big difference, I may be looking wrong but I don't notice huge difference
I know oled is great but my iphone has oled screen and my monitor has VA and I don't see much of a difference and if it was at least similar price and not that led is 300$ and oled is 1000$
Thanks for the clarification around the text usage scenario, I was all very excited until then, but definitely that's a deal breaker! Shame, this looked awesome.
It's not so bad if you turn off ClearType in Windows, that's what makes it so bad on the OLED's but most people don't know this.
or instead of turning off cleartype, CONFIGURE cleartype instead!! I think cleartype allows you to choose which pixel layout your monitor has, and hence your text will be correctly rendered! cheers
@@SreenikethanI the problem is the subpixel layout isn't supported by windows so cleartype doesnt work.
@@networkn wait, actually?? damn, i for some reason recall seeing BGR layout or something similar...
@@SreenikethanI yeah, oleds use a triangular sub pixel layout that windows doesn't natively support. You can improve it, but it won't be perfect. Having said that the 1440p ultrawide from Samsung looked great to me for windows text and I consider myself fussy
Have the Alienware here. I felt like the price, Dolby Vision and easier warranty made it more compelling purchase to me over the Asus.
I had to do an advanced warranty exchange with my AW3423DW and they made it sooooo smooth.
All they did was ship me a new monitor (which I then sold) and had me use the shipping box plus a provided pre-paid shipping label to ship back the old AW3423DW.
Been using the AW3423DW since January. And even though I have an OLED tv, the change over to OLED on my monitor as well was just as mind blowing as when I did it on TV. It's literally night and day.
Why ?
@@chinezut1942 colors, contrast, 0.1ms response time, real blacks
Same here with my DWF
@@chinezut1942 Well I had an IPS before, and it's just not nearly as good when it comes to showing colors and blacks, things just look grey or washed out. I mostly play singleplayer these days, so having HDR on top of it is just next level.
@@vedomedo what about text quality? my monitor is for work and play and I am have held off going OLED due to burn in and the subpixel layout.
@9:30 biggest reason I'll stick with my IPS. If you have 20/20 or better near vision you'll definitely notice the weird color fringing on text and get annoying. Also, annoying issues with ABL and using it as desktop monitor to display white backgrounds for long periods of time like spreadsheets other applications that don't support dark mode or themes.
can't you disable subpixel rendering on windows? it's not an issue on other operating systems like linux or macos
@@budbin With a 3rd party app you can set ClearType to greyscale, but font rendering is pretty bad then. It used to be good until XP, but from Vista/7 onwards it looks awful (I guess that's why MS removed the option). Not all applications honor this setting, so you'll still get subpixel rendering in some apps. It's also a system wide setting, it can't be configured per monitor (which sucks if you have an RGB and an BGR monitor).
man aside from the very informative and well put together content, I just can't with the color composition and shots from your videos, it looks insanely good!
Did i miss a part? Is there any test done with 144FPS cap on those monitors? Because ain't nobody gonna reach 500+fps in modern games consitently
my IPS laptop display, is at 20%... brightness really wears my eyes to the peak! but I got used it, and I save tons of battery life, and money
I would love to see Zowie switching to OLED and giving it dyac but I highly doubt that though. Would definitely want to see microled one day come to monitors and see what it could do
and IPS too
i dont think you can use dyac on an OLED. it doesnt have a backlight, as all the pixels are self lit
@@James-cr8mt You can just turn the pixels totally off to get BFI/DYAC. And as he says OLED doesn't have that extra brightness to play with.
In the future when we get brighter OLEDs it should be possible.
Or when any other self omitting panel technology we get in the future.
We are looking at easily 10 years before microLED technology comes to monitors and becomes relatively affordable.
dude your content is second to none, I dont know if you have a team working with you or you do it all yourself but either way its incredible.. I find myself wanting to emulate your entire setup and peripherals.... you just need a set of Vanatoo T0 powered desktop speakers.. trust me they are worth 1000 dollars and they are significatly cheaper then that.
The OLED here sounds insane, the only problem is it's not 4k. I had such a hard time buying a 4k monitor because here in Australia, there's no high-end options, all the expensive monitors have significant drawbacks. The 4k X28 monitor I got is an IPS and it's only HDR400, you can get some OLED 4k monitors here but for some reason their mostly big 42 inch ones and at weird refresh rates like 138hz. I just want a 27 inch 4k OLED that's at least 144hz with Adaptive Sync and good HDR, but for some reason there's nothing available.
Haha same maybe next year :(
ok, what is the best choice between OLED 1440p and IPS 4K?
please tell me what microphone you are using i just simply need it
I still think it's strange that black frame insertion hasn't been implemented in these monitors. Maybe they're intentionally holding it back for the second gen.
Definitely. They learned their mistake with LG C1 series being too good and then C2 and C3 sales were weak.
27GR95QE is already very dim. Black frame insertion makes picture significantly dimmer so this simply wouldn't work.
But in case of PG27AQN... yeah, it's a fail af it hasn't got it.
@@RJ-vy4yd Yeah more likely cuz they just don't have the high brightness y et to do it without making image unviewable except in darkest rooms LOL
i cant wait for 4k 32 inch OLED monitors hitting the market, till then i remain patient :)
Hey All - Quick Review of Asus PG27AQDM OLED (I own x 2)
MP Verdict - Absolutely, Great Monitor! Response, Colours, Refresh rate and brightness are superb.
SP Verdict - Absolutely No Way! Matte coating kills Immersion. It is way stronger and worse than anyone have said so far. Any white/light colours show very strong film of grainy, uneven coating.
Advice - Unless you're playing colour intensive MP only, wait for Glossy finish and then 100% buy. I will sell both of mine as soon as that happens and do the same.
You are welcome.
absolute top tier video, great info and comparisons!
OLED may be the best tech for gaming monitors, but if you hold onto monitors for at least 4 or 5 years like I do, then burn in is a deal breaker. MicroLED is around the corner and I would honestly recommend waiting for it over buying an OLED gaming monitor for the majority of people.
Hey Optimum great unbiased review man! I had seen the video also when it came out and I happened to land on it again today and considering the fact that it has been 7 months until the video release, it felt like a decent point at which I could come and ask if you have any shenanigans or Burn ins to report. Does the monitor still remain flawless or you happen to have witnessed any issues with it (Always speaking about the OLED one
Did your vision was affected more with OLED or IPS? Thanks
Incredible no one take care of this topic
@@alv71200ips should give you more eye strain since is regularly a more brighter panel 🤷♂️
@@HUB594 Actually Oled is worse for eye strain brightness aside
Thank you for the video! :) I find it interesting when you share information about how things work. Keep up the good work!
I got my oled ultra wide when I was playing loads of star citizen… you can see every little star where as my lg ultra wide ips kind of just blurred them out compared to the oled. Cannot go back, it is too damn beautiful
Do you think the ultrawide oled you have would be good for competitive ish gaming
Cause I’m used to 27” so I’m looking to upgrade to 34” oled or 27” oled
I watched your video, I might've missed it because there's no stamps... but what's the difference in input lag between these two monitors?
You forgot to mention that the Asus OLED monitor only has HDMI 2.0 whereas the LG OLED monitor has HDMI 2.1 huge difference.
I would go with the OLED as well. Yes the IPS has faster refresh rate but realistically on how many games can your PC spit more than 240fps?
Laughs in quad SLi RTX 4090.
@apocea sli isn't a thing any more
I’ve had my Alienware QD OLED since last September. Not sure if I could ever go back to IPS.
It's a little better. We understand. For 4-5 times the price. lol
i have pg27qn 360hz 1440p, cant go back, it's the smoothest experience I had in CSGO
I could never go back to the ancient LCD tech. It's actually amazing how much manufacturers are still trying to charge for that crap.
Man I can’t wait for microled to become mainstream and affordable. That’s ultimately the end goal.
I've been waiting so long I forgot about micro led. Team oled or qled for now. Can't go back to flat images.
You make a good point about brightness & the effect it can have on your eyes, after a long weekend of gaming my eyes are burning.
Over the many years i have turned down the effects & brightness in games, to give my eyes a little comfort.
Great review! I’ve been using MSI MPG 271QRX for 3 weeks now, and while it has some solid features, I’ve been really disappointed with a few things. One major issue is the black screen delay when alt-tabbing during fullscreen games, which lasts for 2-3 seconds. Disabling DSC solves it but drops the refresh rate to 240hz, which defeats the purpose of having a higher refresh rate monitor in the first place. Coming from an Asus IPS 360hz panel, I have to say I’m not impressed with the motion clarity on this OLED, especially for fast-paced FPS games like CS and Deadlock. It just doesn’t keep up, and I’m switching back to an IPS/TN panel. Sad to say, I feel like OLED might not be the best route for competitive gaming right now.
Hi did you found your monitor? Are you enjoying it?
@@kahunasealim back to this MSI monitor. Because its most bang for the buck. And glossy panel
Nice to hear that thank you 👍
@@kahunaseal I run all my games in borderless windowed mode because of the DSC alt tab delay. i have no issues anymore with this screen other than the 16 hour forced pixelclean. But how many times do you really use this display more than 16 hours in one session?
i don't know.. i'm too scared of the burn factor... the thing is very expensive, for that amount of money i want to feel safe it will last long when i purchase it
Agreed. That’s why I want now iPad and think about it’s better wait for iPads with oled or buy ips when I will be able. As I know only negative things about ips compared to oled is response time and colours. But I feel like it’s not critical things. iPad oled will cost expensive plus need change display after some time at oled original and it will cost much money
Oled is just way too expensive.
It’s cheap on sale right now. 1 days of work
The cheapest oled monitor is more eexpensive than my who pc with rx6650xt and r5 5500
PHILIPS Evnia is a good one and really not that expensive.
To me IPS still looks great and performs great, just not as well in dark environments. IPS daytime. OLED nighttime. 😆. Overall I still think MiniLed is the superior technology for now. OLED will be best when price comes down and burn-in is non existent.
Burn-in nonexistent? That's never.
Honestly this is one of the best gaming tech video's I have watched in years.
Simple to the point - Great job.
what would you recommand between those 2 monitor or the zowie xl2566k?
what did you decide?
@@ronald0122 didnt buy any but the zowie xl2566k is the best monitor for competitive gaming
which one do you think is better for photo/video editing? thank you!
ips
IPS
This is real question, I love the gaming aspect, but we cant ignore the other activities we use our monitors for.
Oled or ips
Motion blur is exactly why I play everything on a 160hz CRT
Thank you for answering all the questions I had! This video definitely convinced me to buy the IPS 360Hz simply because I will have to look at a lot of text throughout the day when not gaming on this thing.
So much of good and clear information. Top production level. Thank you.
Great review. Can you explain how they have 'extremely good HDR' when their max brightness is only 248 nits or whatever? I thought the higher tiers of HDR relied on the monitor being able to go pretty bright.
Peak brightness matters for HDR, not whatever the monitor maxes out at in SDR
The peak brightness isn't 248 nits on HDR, it's much higher. Also, HDR requires good contrast even more than high peak brightness - high brightness doesn't do you any good if your "black" is bright grey. Major additional benefit of HDR is that is has far more image information: better colors, more nuance on lightning etc.
For HDR to make sense you need to be in a dark environment. It's all about the contract between zero blacks, and shiny whites that pop out at you plus the more realistic colour pallette. 250 nits is already quite bright but when there's for example a flash or reflection off a puddle on my LG 42 C3 it gets up to like 700 nits. For bright viewing you should be running SDR with calibrated settings.
Which 27inch 2k resolution monitor has the best blacks and viewing angles? . 144hz+ must be
I have been playing with LG C1 48" OLED for about 2000-2500 hours mostly Apex and Destiny 2 and i have zero burn-in on my screen. Not even from HUDs or such.
Liked and subbed , will have to check out some more of your channel . I’m an old person ,62 , but I would still like to build another gaming machine someday . I seriously thought I’d die of old age before oled was a thing with computer monitors. Great seeing options out there , and hopefully more in the future
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Great technical analysis and overall review! Well done!