2021 Mustang Mach 1 Quick Review // Holy Shift
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2021
- The new 2021 Mustang Mach 1 (Starting at US$53,400, CAD 66,000) is the most 'track-ready mustang' you can buy before you jump up to the Shelby class. It puts down 480hp and 420lb-ft of torque. But so does the Mustang Bullitt, and the GT comes close as well. So is this worth PONYing up the extra cash? Watch to find out!
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I waited 5 months for my Mach 1, was there when it drove off the truck, and I can tell you, I've never been anything but ecstatic with the money spent. It's unique, it handles brilliantly, accelerates like a brute, yet can be quiet and relaxed at 5 am in the morning when I'm headed to work. People keep wanting to comment about how they can get a 2020 PP2, put a blower on it, and kick the Mach 1's bum for the same amount of money. I don't care. That's not what this car is about. It's about a new and special take on an already special car. It's fantastic.
Absolutely right. Congrats on the car!!
Nice!
Does the PP2 have the longevity or durability and exact performance as the Mach 1, it is mentioned that the Mach 1 has all those advantages and more. Heck you can do the same by putting a blower and beating the PP2 if we want an apples to apples comparison, pricing would be the difference. The cheapest PP2 you COULD get is 45k+, while Mach 1 starts at 52k, put a blower on either and the Mach 1 still beats the PP2 in a race overall but for more money, the more expensive track version is of course... more expensive, but at that point the PP2 has no chance of winning and many other cars in that segment will get demolished by it. Really it's about the difference and special model that makes that difference.
@@jamesengelsman9369 Thank you!
Was your 5month wait from date of order to delivery? I want to do the same
how funny would it be if they named their main channel “Just Throttle House”
Or this channel, 'and I'm extra throttle house'
It would but it ain't just throttle house it's comedy top especially the intros
It would be, it would be indeed.
Nah, it's gonna be the third channel
James rev-matching shifts while Thomas is trying to talk is gold.
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@@sandenium I'm a crypto holder but people like you are annoying af. You don't have to inject crypto into every conversation, he's saying an expression. Let it be
Pretty much every video these guys do is bitcoin....
Yeah nah that doesn't work 🤣
@@Sahbab11 bot.
@@sandenium And tell me how much will that crypto be worth when the world goes to shit and the power gets turned off? Cause gold was a precious metal before the internet age and will be after the fall of it
When James said "a three way, the best kind" I fucking wheezed
*What do you like about the car?*
*Thomas:* the rims
*James:* the belly pan
You boys have the cleanest white sneakers on the planet.
Lol sadly no, have you seen the people that literally walk around in trash bags, and move their legs without using their ankles to preserve shoes.
It’s insane.
Most rappers have cleaner white sneakers.
They wouldn't dream of stepping inside any of the cars they get loaned with dirty shoes on
@@gavinnorris6348 Canadians are a super polite and thoughtful people.
@@DJL78 Im not Canadian and I wouldn't either.
You know its extra throttle house when they start talking about 8 ball pool rules
I love how they parked the car inside the donut skid marks as if to make Ford nervous.
I love how they explain this is the Extra channel so we don’t get confused
I came up with a good reason to buy this over a GT, resale value. People who buy Mustangs will definitely pay a lot more for that Mach One name and appearance package. Ford doesn't keep their Mustang special editions around that long and there is definitely a fanbase for the Mach One specifically, just like the one for the Boss 302.
Gt350> mach1 tho
But the Boss 302 had a pretty steep advancement over the base Mustang along with the Laguna Seca pack it was just a differeny animal.
Has any 2000+ Mustang held onto it's value though?
@@MrRandomTwat '13 '14 Boss 302. Termis are also appreciating. They'll hit their stride soon, just as fox bodies are currently.
Agreed
Mach 1 has the tranny from the GT350, though, Much better than the manual in the base GT.
Yep, a regular GT, get the auto. Mach 1 manual with Tremec.
I was gonna say that. The base GT's manual is dogshit from what I recall.
Yeah the GT has just a brutal manual tranny.
I hear even the auto on the GT is crappy
@@tomaslopez2940 IMO the ten speed is great. Super engaging, with the short ratios. Not a DCT, but up there with the best autos on the market.
Pretty crazy how you can drive as hard as you want on the street, as long as you don't get caught, and the car is fully covered. But the moment you go to a place that is specifically made for doing just that, the car's warranty is cancelled.
www.hagerty.com/media/news/will-your-new-car-warranty-cover-track-driving/
@@lturknett no, that's one person claiming that with Ford. However, Ford's actual warranty states that tracking the car will result in the warranty being voided upon issue.
Just curious, how did you guys end up with such a great race track?
They sold their souls to the car Gods
They rent it, The straight pipes use it too
@@mels_life1 Worth it.
@@luisestefes3411 no not the same track i think this is their its their own
I believe I remember Thomas saying he was a racing instructor at this track. Not sure if that’s still the case or if I’m remembering incorrectly.
I saw a Mach 1 on the road very close to y’alls first review. Its definitely stunning in person
Those endings… 🤣🤣🤣
James’ excessive shifting 😂
Respect.
The intros and outros are amazing please never stop
You're guys ending to the videos on extra are awesome!! Please keep it up!
Also has gt350 subframe, alot of small details left out. The transmission is also dependable.
It’s actually the GT500 rear subframe/toe-link. And GT350R suspension (tuned) with all the cooling for the rear-differential, oil and transmission. It’s literally a GT350R 1.5 without the Voodoo.
Loved seeing the trees whizzing by in that first look while driving. James' "so, shut up" was epic too.
The tremec transmission alone makes this car worth it over the Catastrophy MT-82
It's a crime that one can't option this trans on the regular GT.
the 18+ MT-82 has no issues with it. So that statements not been an issue for 3yrs.
@@KeithSchwerin their feel is also miles apart.
The tremec is good to shift vs the vague mt82
BING BING BING
Thats why if you got just a standard GT, the 10 speed is the best option in everyway
I test drove one of these mach 1 about two months ago I was very impressed with the performance but the dealer wanted to screw me $10,000 for the privilege of buying one I walked out and never went back.
Dealers have costs to cover and in the current crazy market they are struggling.
Good don’t pay and contribute to this massive mark up over MSRP.
@@bighands69 I personally don’t agree. Cars are flying off the shelves currently. Went to a GMC dealer and had not a single new truck on the lot. Once a truck arrives it’s already been claimed.
@@djw5415
Dealers have extra costs hence why the vehicles are selling at higher prices. It is just economics 101.
So even if Ford could supply a car for cheaper it will have little impact on the lot.
@@bighands69 so that’s justifiable for a 40% markup over MSRP on a corvette C8?!
I love your videos! Everything a car review should be. Both here and on your main channel!
The hard cuts at the end never get old
0:31 I bet James thinks that the best kind of limited-slip is also a 3-way
I thought about not watching the whole video but then I remembered the cut off endings of these are absolutely brilliant 😂🥰
Thomas and James : extra throttle house is a more relaxed version of throttle house
Also Thomas and James : spend 30s just stressing to explain what the channel name means
nice second review guys. i bought this car in NZ in the only spec we and a lot of other countries in the world only get and that is the Non -HP version. Aussie reviewers have tested that non-hp car on the track and it gets great reviews. I got the Tremac and it is a great transmission compared to my 2016 Gt getrag. From what I've read the no lift shift is not "bad on the transmission " . the car is actually meant to do this and the ECU doesn't allow the engine to over rev whilst shifting at full throttle. this transmission is the one of the reasons that I got the Mach 1 as opposed to a 2021 GT. also the magnaride and specific chassis and steering is different from the GT. and as you said the Mach 1 tradition and name is worth something. as i won't be tracking mine the 3 coolers are redundant. cheers tom
Once you get a option a GT with magnaride, performance pack etc, it's only about 4k less than a Mach 1. Plus the Mach 1 has that trans and heated/cooled cloth seats (which is almost enough to sell me on it there).
But there’s still options to add (tech, upgraded seats) to the Mach 1. It’s a huge price jump
@@AS-oo4gv buy certified pre owned and get it for 50k
Plus the GT has a shit transmission
The Mach 1 is all GT350 underneath with a GT500 rear subframe. It’s a really special Mustang, shoulders above any GT variant, and in the same company as the GT350R. TH is throwing shade because Ford didn’t allow track racing.
I wanted the 10r80 so I went with a GT that's pretty much fully loaded. Magneride, PP1, etc. Only thing I don't have is Recaro seats, but I wanted the heated and cooled feature. I don't track my car, so for me it made more sense to get a GT.
Love how these videos end. Watching, almost, just for that reason.
Oh my next car in a throttle house review...yesss
The one thing I wish I could have said to Thomas this entire discussion was that you can't really compare the Mach 1 with the PP2, Bullitt, and to a lesser extent, GT350, if you are talking exclusively about new Mustangs. For the 2021 model year, the PP2, Bullitt and GT350 are no longer available. The Mach 1 is meant to replace these three models with a single model. I think the real discussion to be had is its value as a replacement.
and james's point was..if im spending 75k ( Canadian) on a mustang..i would just get a fairly used gt 350 which is bout the same price
@@samuelreid603 I would too! But if we're talking exclusively about new cars, they shouldn't be compared like that
Why won’t Ford let you track it? That seems odd, unless of course James was driving. 😀
Soooooo gorgeous!! That color is fantastic!!!
I’m jealous of the rev match. I love the customized noise as well. I have the 2021 392 (bag of poo) scat pack lol. Love the video. The Mach has more style than the GT as you guys stated. That sound wow. Bare with me I’m typing while watching. 😂
Cool video! I own a GT350, it is running 753 Whp . It is equipped with a vortech supercharger, and many other mods. (I’m not trying to brag btw, I’m trying to spark a car enthusiast conversation. I say this because I previously had a “problem”.)
How’s it holding up
I would NOT get a GT because of all the complaints about the 6 speed. This Mach 1 makes sense. The Voodoo is great but has sooo many issues, with many being replaced by Ford.
Man the MT-82 is the worst transmission I've ever driven. It's clunky, it breaks, and it just doesn't feel smooth almost EVER in my 2017 GT. My clutch AND slave cylinder both blew up at like 15k miles. The springs in the clutch literally shattered and it's not like I do hard launches often.
When I get my GT I’m getting the 10 Speed, iv heard good things about the transmission and I don’t know how to drive manual so it’s perfect for me lol
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Oh I don't regret getting the manual AT ALL. I didn't REALLY know how to drive manual when I bought it, but I also wasn't an idiot and didn't abuse the clutch. I at least knew how manual transmissions worked and that probably helped a bit. As shitty as the MT-82 tranny is, it's still fun as hell and I would 100% still take the MT-82 and all of its problems over an automatic. Don't let not knowing how to drive manual stop you from getting one, I didn't really know what I was doing and still managed to get it an hour and a half back home from the dealership in one piece lmao. It'll take some practice, but once you figure it out, it becomes second nature. There's no better feeling than downshifting and rev-matching manually (I will never use auto rev-match personally, just not as fun). It never gets old blipping the throttle on a downshift.
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Im going to second what Tyler said: don’t let not knowing how to drive a standard stop you from getting it. I didn’t know now to drive a stick when I got my first mustang back in ‘13, but I’m soooo thankful that I did.
5:53 "I'm never sober" lmao
Love the Lancia t-shirt, this is a true car geek :D
Having the Mach 1 on the Extra channel is a flex on all other car review channels and a slight diss to Ford for not allowing to compete with the Type R.
Now i wanna buy one just to let Thomas and James test it on the track!
fun video, thanks fellas... wow new shoes?
1:36 reminded me of James Acaster's "Finders keepers shut up!
The sound is amazing The magna ride is unbelievable, the transmission is just so great, I love the styling, I just really love this car, giggles all around... I don't see why it's better than a GT, I wouldn't buy it🤓🧐🤔
Love the orange and gray
Man, that Mustang sounds good. Especially for stock. By the way, nice Delta Integrale gauge shirt!
Would it pain you guys to know that I'm watching more of this channel than your main?
This extra channel - which is like the main channel except they go into things they’re off-topic interested in, in one take,so it’s kinda of like a more casual discussion channel, you know, where they can just really discuss things... - has virtues.
Yep
I love these.... curious what your daily drivers are?
hey guys so I just picked up a blue mach 1 2 days ago with the handling package. I'll tell you what, I drove the fully loaded gt and this car is by far a better by even for about 7k more. thr 315's in the rear poke out just a bit and make the car look so wide and aggressive. I came from a stage 3, 2017 focus st and am in love with this mach 1.
Looks like a gulf livery. Love it
For me, I'd still have the GT350. As much as I like the Coyote, that Voodoo in the 350 is just one of the best engines ever made. The noise and feel is just in a completely different league.
YES!!! I just cannot get excited about the Mach 1 whereas the GT350 (and the Voodoo engine) just leave me lusting every time I am graced to be in its presence.
Too bad the first like 3yrs the engine was made of glass though but the sound nonetheless is nearly unrivaled
Nice Mustang! I would like to own one some day!!
I personally love the body style of the '67 - '68 Mustang better.
Extra throttle house is awesome! Can't watch til the end, because you don't record til the end! I think the reason is
I've got a 2014 Shelby GT500. It's crazy enough to stay interesting with a factory 662 hp. For daily driving I snagged a 2017 Focus RS. So it's gonna take a hell of a car to convince me to trade in one of those.
Who said trade in? Just buy a 3rd one
Both of those cars are amazing!!! I'm leaning towards buying an 07 gt500 in the mid 30k range
But also want a focus RS plus more liveability.
I have two cars one I could probably get 20k for and my other is my 300+whp mini Cooper r53s with everything too could possibly do and with an upgraded blower and meth on e85
By far my favorite S550 Mustang!
You can see Thomas grinning as James' says three way 😂
Luv the magniride suspension
I'm just glad it has a body color painted bumper
Love the Lancia Delta Integrale Shirt!!!
James, showing off the guns! Way to come out of the pandemic!
Fist Body for sure my favorite Gen just look at the beautiful beast
So happy to hear someone finally speaking to how ridiculous the price point is.
Blah blah blah price point. In 5 years the Mach 1 is worth every penny paid for it and possibly more, while any version of any plain GT is worth half or less.
The main thing the Mach 1 has over the GT is the Tremec gearbox for the manual transmission option. Super well built. I'm not sure it's worth Ford's premium, but honestly, Ford's been that way about all of their vehicles for quite some time now.
@@a.dudeman7715 Really, it's more afford dealers rather than Ford. Ford needs to bring the er down on greedy dealers. Dodge is starting to have the same problems now.
I love the cut offs on these videos lol
So, I just got a 2020 PP2 like 2 months ago, it does have rev match but its missing the tremec the oil cooler and all that! But it was 44k US. used with 1500 miles on it. I think that's 54ish Canadian. It's a steal!
This is the best looking mustang
Just bought my 2021 black Mach 1 today in black with tremec 6 speed and handling pack!! Had the choice between a 2020 Gt 500 used and this, the insurance was crazy for the 500. I’m gonna debadge it and pull off the vinyl stripes and hood sticker. Traded my 2018 gen 2 raptor for it. Have a 250 lariat tremor to replace the gen 2, I really love my raptor but time to move on. There is always the gen 3 type r in a year or so.
I have a 2022 Mach1 HP with 10 spd auto. Daily driver and love it.
Would be cool to see how it compares on your track if you want to try it.
I’m in Toronto
76,000 is too much for that car considering u can get a slightly used gt350 in the mid to high 50s here in the states
76k Canadian equates to a fair bit less in USD. So it’s not quite as expensive in the states
@@motownkittens4905 true but it would still be upper 60s in the states
The voodoo is great... Right before it 💥💥💥
The endings and beginnings of their shows
sLap all those show & shine guys!!
I have a 19 pp1 premium a10 3.55 GT Mustang with the killer gauge package. I added keeping full warrantee F P Bullitt tune which is good for engine and great for a10 and also F P Track Pack suspension package which is in between the pp2 and GT350. I put some slightly wider & shorter Goodyear Supercar 3's on f & r, added diff cooler, x pipe, Schroth harnesses, and Steeda Stop-the-Hop IRS kit
The Car scoots quite nicely on road course tracks and still very streetable! Needs better brake pads and pp2 wheel & tire setup. It makes a great poor man's GT500, a car I wouldn't own/buy - tires don't last long nor does the gas on the track tho Great for a few Fast laps!!! If you like pp2's but wanted a Souped Up a10 here you are and then some. Ford Performance parts kicked this GT up notch Very nicely
This last weekend I drove from Kansas City to Michigan to purchase my new Mach 1 and drove it back! Around 26 hours of driving in less than 48 hours! If I lived closer to you guys I would let you track this one! :-)
Hell yeah man. If a guy in a Giulia gives you a thumbs up, it was me
@@AlumarsX I’ll keep an eye out!! 👍
Downshifting and Rev matching yourself is one of the most enjoyable parts of driving stick: if you have an aftermarket exhaust system than it’s most likely snap, crackle, pop city! Love downshifting my stage 2 STi and rev matching. The pops and bangs are crazy, maybe like 3-5 or 5-8 on average, or sometimes one BANG that sounds like a large firecracker 🧨, and it does it on up shifts sometimes. However, not a fan of over the top tunes that make the car pop and and bang like 20 times on a downshift or just letting off the gas
I agree! Working on mproving your rev matching is fun as well. That down shift BANG tickles my taint cause you never know when it'll appear.
James - you gettin' some guns there dude? Sun's out - guns out.
"3 way, the best kinda way" - James 2021 🤙
The Motor Trend comparison results make the price a little more palatable.
70k for a mustang, HELL NO.
Track times? How'd it fare?
@@ShadowGodOfDarkness www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/
@@postictal7846 thanks bruv
Beautiful design nice interior very agressive very sportly 😎
I own this exact car and I freakin love it! It's the press car that Straight Pipes tested and a few others. M2283 is the badge # on my dash. That being said I did not know this when I bought it and I'm really glad I maxed out the warranty on her now. I really enjoy watching you guys but Thomas is obviously negatively biased against Mustangs for whatever reason. I think I know why though. Because it can spank his whip and sounds AMAZING and looks perfect doing it. Yeah the interior isn't the greatest but hey it's just a Mustang eh. Don't be jelly boys just appreciate her for the ass whooping beast she is.😂
James has been hitting the gym
Great ending
Like motor trend said there's one wrench in the mustang game it's the Camaro SS 1LE it's cheaper and it's been a hell of a sports car since 2016
And I'm a Chevy guy but you can't see out of it
The Camaro is one hell of a road weapon, but IMHO it achieves that at the expense of everything else. It is ergonomically deficient, it is ugly, it carries less stuff. It so badly needs a new generation, but GM may have cooked its own goose on that front.
There are so many things about that Camaro that MotorTrend didn't mention tho, even the comments above revealed a few that heavily shows some flaws to their statement. Things that the Mustang outshines the Camaro on are funny enough things that people care about more on a daily basis, which is why the Mustang in general sells better too.
You forgot to include this... www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/ you're welcome!
@@vomErsten All subjective based on your needs and oppinon/s. If I need to make a Home Depot run I take the appropriate vehicle. If I want to go really fast and not have to worry about stuff breaking like these unfinished mustangs then I take my SS 1LE. And please spare me any replies about not being unfinished. We all know these cars are works in progress that Ford just keeps fixing and charging customers for the engineering and design that should have been done right when the cars were released and billed as "Track Car".
Who would pay GT350 money for this? RIP GT350, your exhaust note will forever echo into the night.
@Hynea definitely 👍🏽👍🏽
I own a 350R, Mach 1 HP and 21 GT500 CFTP. 76k for a Mach 1 isn’t bad vs 125k for a 350 R and 150k 500. CAD that is.
James enjoying his shift is absolutely the best thing to watch for...😜😜
he's mastered the automatic rev match, but he didn't do the no lift shift.
That car looks sweet af.
you guys need to try a sutton cs800 belive its uk car only but still would love to see it
The reason I want the mach 1 is for tr-3160 , since normal GT getrag is a pile of garbage. The mach 1 is over priced.
Thats a $20,000 transmission
@@jpogigtxcr1778 It's a $5k trans at most. Source: Google
@@thegirthquake8574 price of the car considered is what he meant
Generic Memes So tell me, where's the rest of the $20,000 go?🤣
Wow another set of armchair critics that can’t do math. Spec out a GT like a Mach 1 and all of a sudden that $20k is less than $3k. Please try and pay attention.
Still waiting to see you guys track this car.....and hopefully come away with justification for the price....or not? As you stated it does have many improvements that are track focused and Yes it is brilliant at cruising! Would a car that could go to the track and perform yet cruise like a regular Mustang GT be worth the extra money? Please track this car. Love your channel and very interested in your feedback. I absolutely love mine and feel like it was worth every penny and will hold its value better than a GT.
James, you been lifting? 👀 Gainz bruh.
4:00 that Kirsten camera chick got some nice lens flare
Good points about the price but you do get the Tremec, isn’t that the reason to buy this over the GT?
I am someone who is genuinely in the market looking to buy a Mustang and I have it down to either to either a GT then super charging it with a Roush supercharger , a used GT350, or a Mach one.. The issue I have with the mock 1 is that there is some mark up on it so I can get a brand new Mustang GT supercharged and under warranty for 5,000 to $8000 less than the Mach 1.
Welcome to 😁 another episode of
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Ummmm, 60 grand, payments for 8 years...🤔. Will they even have gas stations in 5 years in California. Or will it be like Mad Max.
Move to the country.
Gettin' pretty buff there James 💪💪. That said, great car, but not worth $76k.
If nothing else, one can instantly tell the difference between a Mach 1 with a Tremic than any GT with the Getrag. That feature makes the price difference worth it.
I agree....I have heard many a reviewer say,,,,,,to get this Transmission alone makes it worth the price. Short of 2024, you cannot get any Coyote 5.0 backed by the Tremec 6speed unless you go Mach1. You have to pay GT350 $$ and add the cost of the 5.2 Voodoo motor. In Summer 2023 used GT350 cars are $55,000-$65,000 AND the upcomming 2024 Darkhorse 5.0 with Tremec 6speed will vault well above $60K with Options (and a year's worth of Dealer "market adjustment' costs!). The buyers of 21-22 Mach1s used their $$ wisely for a well-sorted road AND track car. The smartest 2023 buyers will snatch up the last of the Mach1s AT MSRP (or slightly below) and, like me, will smile and laugh every time they drive and are impressed with the best S550 Ford put out.
Love it 😍
Cool mustang
Is there a parallel universe where the Ford Mustang GT350 or Mach 1 captures his heart as a budget BMW M4 or M2?
The mach 1 front end grill styling is from the Focus RS
Yall should do a match up of the mach 1 vs camaro ss 1le