Yes, motorways are now far more dangerous!!! I drive on them early hours of the morning when hardly any traffic. Where/when ever possible I will not use the motorway during the day. Those signs are never updated, variable speed limits, caution queues when there's none same with non existent road works or workforce in the road, etc etc.....I love driving but now the anxiety it causes I'm always exhausted upon reaching my destination or returning home.....also traumatised from seeing regular horrendous accidents...
@@NerdInMotion23 It would be a very nervous moment for sure, after I got experience in 7.5T I instantly saw heavy vehicles in a totally different light and have gone out of my way to give HGV's extra room since, its got to be an endless stream of cars doing idiotic things and has to be a stressful job.
@@stevefox3763 Everyday the level of stupid driving I see is unbelievable. Another problem group is entitled cyclists 😂 I could devote a whole video to them.
Smart motorways are like our bike lanes, someone high up has seen it when on holiday i would imagine, thought it would be a great idea here, and bring it over half done without actually looking at the bigger picture, either that or as so many speed camera's popped up on the motor ways when these were brought in and with the amount of slow downs for no actual reason it was purely a money maker.
@@MrLeejohn02 if I remember correctly there was some statistics that the M62 fines had covered the cost of the smart motorway section in a matter of months.
@@NerdInMotion23 a single smart motorway junction can cost £300million. A mile can cost £79million. Each fine cost more to send out than is received. Any proceed is legally ring-fenced for safer road projects. Each sector has at most brought in under £2mil per year. Even ignoring maintenance cost of a motorway, that is surely a moronic way to regain construction costs. You appear to have remembered incorrectly or you are peddling misinformation.
I have to wonder why you seem to have ended up with such a bad implementation of this in the UK. We have virtually identical dynamic signage in the Netherlands, but to my knowledge they're not causing any issues there, and actually _have been_ safer because it allows them to close off lanes when accidents occur in the middle of the road (with plenty of advance warning signs). But to my knowledge we don't try to repurpose hard shoulders as driving lanes either... which is in and of itself a pretty bizarre idea to me.
@@crytocc because as always we don't do things properly and bureaucrats get involved it all goes down hill trying to get jobs for the boys. In the UK the public sector is notoriously officious and lazy.
@@NerdInMotion23incorrect. NIMBYs Tories UK’s Low production rate Lesser educated members of the public who fear monger, rage bait and spreads misinformation.
25 years hgv driver! Smart motorways are lethal! You have a legal obligation to get upto speed and merge in!how....how do u get to 60mph from those breakdown areas?
@NerdInMotion23 I was m5north, truck overtaking me. Car in breakdown area! It was daytime. Car had no lights on, no hazards, no brake lights on! Idiot decided to pull out 50m from me! They just dawdled out without a care in the world! Horn, lights flashing...car just didn't know or understand the danger! I had to bang on the brakes, pull into lane 2! I was down to 20mph!!!! Car then cut off a car as it pulled into lane 2(middle lane hog) for no reason! Then car put hazards on!! It's a shame we have to share the roads with uneducated drivers! I think to use the motorway, it should be an extra driving qualification! I believe every driver should drive a unit, brake. Then do the same with a fully loaded trailer! I bet every hgv driver, 1st time they brake from 50mph for a junction while 44t, shits themselves as it won't slow down fast enough!
@@terrystratford1235 Yes definately educate and let all drivers experience all types of vehicles. Growing up I started on a bicycle, then motorbikes and all makes and models of cars...once a bus and a couple of times small vans. I've not had a go at hgv driving yet...not sure I ever want to, they look big and scary...
@nixswatson same here! I passed bike, car, c2 and c1 1st time! Anyone who isn't scared of 44t isn't the type to drive them! It's good to have respect for hgv! Artics are easier to drive and manoeuvre than ridged trucks! Give it ago! You maybe surprised on what u can and can't see, blindspots! There's so much more to being a hgv driver than just driving! Try it! If your youngish....it can be a great career! Deliver food, easy life!
@@terrystratford1235 Nah I'm oldish, retired old school, light vehicle technician, I still retain my IMI membership to stay up to date in the motor industry...so I've seen lorries jack knife tip over etc etc I know to give them a very very wide berth and if forced by traffic conditions to be alongside or sandwiched btw 2 of them I make like a horse with it's blinkers on, pray a lot until I can put some distance btw myself and them lol
You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. I work on the motorways, I work In traffic management and I drive the truck with the cones on, the whole point on the refuse area is if your broken down or for an emergency. If you can’t get out the refuse area you call national highways and they will put a big fat red x on the hard shoulder and most probably call the police or the wombles to assist. The reason people get hurt or die on smart motorways isn’t because of the way it functions it’s simply because people do not read the gantry’s. I’ve seen it, I see it first hand everyday. And you so called✌🏻professional truck drivers ✌🏻are the worst for it. As I said I drive the truck with the cones on, with the big flashing arrow that goes up 5m above the truck that tells you to move over to the next lane, the big cushion that folds down to take the impact of a vehicle hitting us, do you know what vehicles is mostly involved with crashing into the back of the trucks? HGVS, 99.99% is trucks because you ignore the signals and signs, so all this rubbish about smart motorways are dangerous is compete and utter garbage. It’s you drivers are to blame.
@@XLbullyZeus have you watched video by the other RUclipsrs. Links on the description. I also don't disbelieve you in their video you see an HGV just roll through a sign. The issue is you're not getting the red x anymore to get on when you call highways.
@@GDBRescueandrecovery they need to be requested. The signal are currently turned off on m1 between jct 13 and jct11 a. They have a new system in place for broken down vehicles and crashes
@@NerdInMotion23 The recent ERA LDR policy change was driven by misuse of the ERA red X exit system by independent recovery operators. These operators would intentionally trigger a Red X exit and spend an hour handling breakdowns, distracting CCTV operators from other duties and unnecessarily closing lane 1 for extended periods. It’s worth considering who is responsible for this change and who has a history of using rage-baiting tactics for views. It’s important to recognize that if a vehicle can’t reach lane 1, it certainly can’t reach the hard shoulder. Annually, the hard shoulder accounts for around 26 fatalities and approximately 100 serious injuries (KSI). In fact, in a single year, four times more people die on the hard shoulder than have died from stationary vehicle incidents in lane 1 of smart motorways since 2006. Conventional motorways still experience more live lane stopped vehicle fatalities than smart motorways, and notably, no one has ever died under red X protection or inside an ERA. Replacing lane 1 of an All Lane Running (ALR) motorway with a hard shoulder removes the capacity for 3,500 cars per hour, pushing them onto A and B roads, which have 2 to 8 times higher fatality rates-resulting in 25 additional deaths annually. Many commentators who engage in social rage-baiting don’t know how many people die on each type of motorway or the circumstances surrounding those deaths. Most cannot even correctly identify different road types. This information is publicly available-please take the time to look it up. The hard shoulder solutions proposed to address issues, while seemingly logical, are often uninformed. Like many complaints about smart motorways, they lack a fundamental understanding of the data and facts. Depending on the year about 6 recovery operators die on hard shoulders per year. There was a year when 1 independent recovery operator died per month consecutively for 6 months. No recovery operator has ever died working on a smart motorway, largely thanks to the systems installed and the policies developed. Policies cowboy recovery operators can evidently be seen to ignore. On their own RUclips channel. Nevertheless, smart motorway systems still continue to protect even them. While one may portray himself a champion for the idiot motorist on camera, off camera he is recorded to be abusive. By reacting to these rage-baiting narratives, whether intentionally or not, you risk supporting misguided efforts. Every pound wasted on these uninformed campaigns is money that could have been used to prevent road fatalities. In the past, such rage-baiting tactics have led to over a billion pounds being wasted by a Tory government. Personally, I do not believe quick and dirty RUclips views are worth lives. There are certainly better ways to increase subscriber counts.
Thanks for the watch and the mention! Really appreciate it! P.S Cool man cave! GDB
@@GDBRescueandrecovery I'd love to do a podcast with you at some point if you're up for it!
Yes, motorways are now far more dangerous!!! I drive on them early hours of the morning when hardly any traffic. Where/when ever possible I will not use the motorway during the day. Those signs are never updated, variable speed limits, caution queues when there's none same with non existent road works or workforce in the road, etc etc.....I love driving but now the anxiety it causes I'm always exhausted upon reaching my destination or returning home.....also traumatised from seeing regular horrendous accidents...
I don't blame you. That is the reality of these motorways.
The biggest I've driven is 7.5T and even those are scary when car drivers don't realise just how hard it is to stop and pull across you.
@@stevefox3763 I know could you imagine trying to get out of one of those bays with a car on the back.
@@NerdInMotion23 It would be a very nervous moment for sure, after I got experience in 7.5T I instantly saw heavy vehicles in a totally different light and have gone out of my way to give HGV's extra room since, its got to be an endless stream of cars doing idiotic things and has to be a stressful job.
@@stevefox3763 Everyday the level of stupid driving I see is unbelievable. Another problem group is entitled cyclists 😂 I could devote a whole video to them.
Good point mate 👍
@@tolga24 thanks mate it's mad in the UK at the moment.
@@NerdInMotion23 I can relate that bruv!
Smart motorways are like our bike lanes, someone high up has seen it when on holiday i would imagine, thought it would be a great idea here, and bring it over half done without actually looking at the bigger picture, either that or as so many speed camera's popped up on the motor ways when these were brought in and with the amount of slow downs for no actual reason it was purely a money maker.
@@MrLeejohn02 if I remember correctly there was some statistics that the M62 fines had covered the cost of the smart motorway section in a matter of months.
@@NerdInMotion23 a single smart motorway junction can cost £300million. A mile can cost £79million. Each fine cost more to send out than is received. Any proceed is legally ring-fenced for safer road projects. Each sector has at most brought in under £2mil per year. Even ignoring maintenance cost of a motorway, that is surely a moronic way to regain construction costs.
You appear to have remembered incorrectly or you are peddling misinformation.
I have to wonder why you seem to have ended up with such a bad implementation of this in the UK. We have virtually identical dynamic signage in the Netherlands, but to my knowledge they're not causing any issues there, and actually _have been_ safer because it allows them to close off lanes when accidents occur in the middle of the road (with plenty of advance warning signs). But to my knowledge we don't try to repurpose hard shoulders as driving lanes either... which is in and of itself a pretty bizarre idea to me.
@@crytocc because as always we don't do things properly and bureaucrats get involved it all goes down hill trying to get jobs for the boys. In the UK the public sector is notoriously officious and lazy.
@@NerdInMotion23incorrect.
NIMBYs
Tories
UK’s Low production rate
Lesser educated members of the public who fear monger, rage bait and spreads misinformation.
25 years hgv driver! Smart motorways are lethal! You have a legal obligation to get upto speed and merge in!how....how do u get to 60mph from those breakdown areas?
Exactly! It's impossible my truck takes over 30 seconds to get to 56mph.
@NerdInMotion23 I was m5north, truck overtaking me. Car in breakdown area! It was daytime. Car had no lights on, no hazards, no brake lights on! Idiot decided to pull out 50m from me! They just dawdled out without a care in the world! Horn, lights flashing...car just didn't know or understand the danger! I had to bang on the brakes, pull into lane 2! I was down to 20mph!!!! Car then cut off a car as it pulled into lane 2(middle lane hog) for no reason! Then car put hazards on!! It's a shame we have to share the roads with uneducated drivers! I think to use the motorway, it should be an extra driving qualification! I believe every driver should drive a unit, brake. Then do the same with a fully loaded trailer! I bet every hgv driver, 1st time they brake from 50mph for a junction while 44t, shits themselves as it won't slow down fast enough!
@@terrystratford1235 Yes definately educate and let all drivers experience all types of vehicles. Growing up I started on a bicycle, then motorbikes and all makes and models of cars...once a bus and a couple of times small vans. I've not had a go at hgv driving yet...not sure I ever want to, they look big and scary...
@nixswatson same here! I passed bike, car, c2 and c1 1st time! Anyone who isn't scared of 44t isn't the type to drive them! It's good to have respect for hgv! Artics are easier to drive and manoeuvre than ridged trucks! Give it ago! You maybe surprised on what u can and can't see, blindspots! There's so much more to being a hgv driver than just driving! Try it! If your youngish....it can be a great career! Deliver food, easy life!
@@terrystratford1235 Nah I'm oldish, retired old school, light vehicle technician, I still retain my IMI membership to stay up to date in the motor industry...so I've seen lorries jack knife tip over etc etc I know to give them a very very wide berth and if forced by traffic conditions to be alongside or sandwiched btw 2 of them I make like a horse with it's blinkers on, pray a lot until I can put some distance btw myself and them lol
You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. I work on the motorways, I work In traffic management and I drive the truck with the cones on, the whole point on the refuse area is if your broken down or for an emergency. If you can’t get out the refuse area you call national highways and they will put a big fat red x on the hard shoulder and most probably call the police or the wombles to assist.
The reason people get hurt or die on smart motorways isn’t because of the way it functions it’s simply because people do not read the gantry’s. I’ve seen it, I see it first hand everyday. And you so called✌🏻professional truck drivers ✌🏻are the worst for it. As I said I drive the truck with the cones on, with the big flashing arrow that goes up 5m above the truck that tells you to move over to the next lane, the big cushion that folds down to take the impact of a vehicle hitting us, do you know what vehicles is mostly involved with crashing into the back of the trucks? HGVS, 99.99% is trucks because you ignore the signals and signs, so all this rubbish about smart motorways are dangerous is compete and utter garbage. It’s you drivers are to blame.
@@XLbullyZeus have you watched video by the other RUclipsrs. Links on the description. I also don't disbelieve you in their video you see an HGV just roll through a sign. The issue is you're not getting the red x anymore to get on when you call highways.
Both issues could be reduced by having a working hard shoulder.
Highways DO NOT alway set RED X unfortantley, many of videos on my channel prooving this. GDB
@@GDBRescueandrecovery they need to be requested. The signal are currently turned off on m1 between jct 13 and jct11 a. They have a new system in place for broken down vehicles and crashes
@@NerdInMotion23 The recent ERA LDR policy change was driven by misuse of the ERA red X exit system by independent recovery operators. These operators would intentionally trigger a Red X exit and spend an hour handling breakdowns, distracting CCTV operators from other duties and unnecessarily closing lane 1 for extended periods. It’s worth considering who is responsible for this change and who has a history of using rage-baiting tactics for views.
It’s important to recognize that if a vehicle can’t reach lane 1, it certainly can’t reach the hard shoulder. Annually, the hard shoulder accounts for around 26 fatalities and approximately 100 serious injuries (KSI). In fact, in a single year, four times more people die on the hard shoulder than have died from stationary vehicle incidents in lane 1 of smart motorways since 2006.
Conventional motorways still experience more live lane stopped vehicle fatalities than smart motorways, and notably, no one has ever died under red X protection or inside an ERA. Replacing lane 1 of an All Lane Running (ALR) motorway with a hard shoulder removes the capacity for 3,500 cars per hour, pushing them onto A and B roads, which have 2 to 8 times higher fatality rates-resulting in 25 additional deaths annually.
Many commentators who engage in social rage-baiting don’t know how many people die on each type of motorway or the circumstances surrounding those deaths. Most cannot even correctly identify different road types. This information is publicly available-please take the time to look it up.
The hard shoulder solutions proposed to address issues, while seemingly logical, are often uninformed. Like many complaints about smart motorways, they lack a fundamental understanding of the data and facts.
Depending on the year about 6 recovery operators die on hard shoulders per year. There was a year when 1 independent recovery operator died per month consecutively for 6 months. No recovery operator has ever died working on a smart motorway, largely thanks to the systems installed and the policies developed. Policies cowboy recovery operators can evidently be seen to ignore. On their own RUclips channel. Nevertheless, smart motorway systems still continue to protect even them. While one may portray himself a champion for the idiot motorist on camera, off camera he is recorded to be abusive.
By reacting to these rage-baiting narratives, whether intentionally or not, you risk supporting misguided efforts. Every pound wasted on these uninformed campaigns is money that could have been used to prevent road fatalities. In the past, such rage-baiting tactics have led to over a billion pounds being wasted by a Tory government. Personally, I do not believe quick and dirty RUclips views are worth lives. There are certainly better ways to increase subscriber counts.