Brand New XR150L DEFECTIVE?! :(
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- I've put 2,170 miles on the 2023 XR150L at this point. Here are some glaring issues with the bike as well as some ways in which it exceeded all expectations!
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00:00 intro
00:12 Oil Consumption Problem
01:12 Freeway Capability is STUPID?!
01:54 More WRONG Specs from Honda
02:50 This Carburetor Tune is DIFFERENT
03:39 Needs Snail :(
04:08 Why Honda was Laughing When They Made This Suspension 
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Watching yesterday's video, I said man I wish he would make some more dirt bike videos, I ask and I receive.
Was just riding in Nevada Moon Rocks last week and was thinking the same! Miss that guy!
Every time I watch his videos I get a new spark for wanting to go improve my riding skills. His “pretty slow” ain’t the same as mine. Thanks Gabe!
My broken left leg agrees with everything you said!!!
Yeah his "pretty slow" is already pretty fast for most of us. 😳
I giggled when i heard him say "pretty slow"
Pretty cool that Honda is making a smaller bore more affordable "do all" bike again 🤘
Glad you're back reviewing a bike, can't wait for the 24hr endurance race!
Thanks for a great honest review (as always) Gabe .
Hello from Costa Rica, I had one of these back in 2018 and i can agree with the video. This bike is great for stuff like going to work, school or just getting around. It is pretty affordable when compared to its bigger brother the XR250 Tornado. Great spec out of factory, but one of the things i didnt like was the wheele sizes, way too small.
Thank you for uploading again! I’ve saved you in my mind as the guy to follow. Just wish there was more for me to check up on.
Very good review. Like your testing & honest review. Keep them coming👍✅
Funny to see someone from the US riding the crap out of a bike which is used by most food delivery drivers in my city.
4:45 I think its safe to say that pretty slow for Gabe is flat out for most of us lmao
No, it really is slow. I've ridden one on the street, it's very slow. Any 125cc dirt-only four-stroke trail bike will easily out-accelerate it.
@@trevorjameson3213 I was talking about Gabe's ability as a rider not the performance of the bike
Excellent review!
Needs an intake/exhaust/engine hopup and a Vonkat shock.
Do it, ride it, show us! 👍
Been to long since a dirt bike review, love it!
aww yiss I was waiting for THIS review specifically :D
hi, just subbed. great content. what camera do you use to film? the slow-motion footage is crisp👌
Big fan of your videos. Im too old and out of shape to torture test anything. Bought a 2021 rmz250 and it tortures me
Holy crap!! Gabe with a video out of left field!! You doing the 24 this year?
I missed moto content!! Shocked to see you bought one of these
I love mine also. I had to change a fuse yesterday. Headlight
Good video Gabe, keep it up.
Great ride and comments.
So the front forks are good enough for some off road fun it seems. You were pretty critical of them in your initial impression specs video.
They go for 5k + here in Australia. Not good enough. A rural Agricultural bike at best. I'll stick with older XR's Thank you very much.
Wow.....It is Only $1,435.00usd here in the Philipines and 3yrs plate registration and insurance Included.🤐( guess I scored a deal.)
2:27 in my country fitters found out that Honda´s Hornet 600 rear shock absorber fits perfectly into the xr 150 rear suspension. This one is adjustable. I substituted it myself and it worked pretty fine becoming a little harder of course. (don´t know the exact production year but scanning through the different hornet 600 models will help you find it, in case it interests you).
Excellent review! Shame about the cheap parts - would it really have been that much more to put on some case snail adjusters? Pinching pennies for that MSRP, I guess. Nice to see you out and riding.
My neighbor just bought one of these. It's not just the cheap chain adjusters, it's also the cheap XR100 swing arm from the '80's, cheap XR100 shifter also from the '80's, very weak steel wheels, again from the '80's, and really terrible looking welds on the frame. I may have missed a few things, but overall it's pretty poor if you plan to use it off-road. But for in town street use it's a nice bike, just very slow on acceleration. All of the dirt-only trail bikes of 125cc will easily out-accelerate it (but not beat it for top speed of course due to the gearing).
@@trevorjameson3213 Haven’t seen any bad welds on either of the bikes my friends have. May have just been bad QC on that particular bike
Missed your videos man!
Great video!
I put a YSS shock on my TW 200 and it made all the differnce
I own one of these. A white one. I can't go anywhere without people talking to me about it. Mine doesn't seem to consume any oil. I would recommend the Honda 300 or a dr650 dual sports over this if you want to go on long 300+mile trips. I have a bugger bike I just like the 150 for gas sipping and off road exploring. If you have a pickup this is a must have
I have a black one with almost 2400 miles on it and mine doesn’t consume oil. I also have never been able to get the bike faster than 65mph going downhill but I’m also around 200lbs and I’m at higher elevation.
Honda says that the shock is preload adjustable. So you can change the damping but not the spring rate.
It’s a Honda but it’s not Japanese.still kinda want one. I had a 250l but it was not fun in the dirt at all. This thing kinda reminds of the old xr line up which is cool and would be fun to have on the street
best dirt ike channel on the web
Video on this vs the ttr125 off-road would be fun lol
Looks like fun! I wonder how it stacks up against the CSC TT250.
Was abt to say looks like my TBR7
If they used the old engine like Yamaha did on the TT it’s just as solid. These old blueprint jap engines will run 30 years if you maintain them. And they are cheap and say to rebuild. The TT is solid and I te omens it to any beginners or someone that’s just into laid back riding.
We need a Vonkat shock for this bike!!!
Kymco ya think? what does the airbox look like?
Great Video. I always enjoy ur uploads, major fan. Sharing my non-important opinion/ my experience... I think the xr150 should've kept on being the brazilian "NXR Bros" looked much better, feels snappier, lighter, has a modding community, and a few other yickles. This bike was essentially what came before this design/model showcased in the vid. However, its nice to add that the reliability on these has been and still is such a blessing. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, totally recommended, specially when you're just trying to commute. Extra thing I wanna share is that, yes the suspension is too short so a, f.e: CR85, KX100, shock and fork upgrade is a major mod, one which I think at least leaves the bike worthy of off roading as well as wheels as they're 19f-17r stock I believe.
You should check out the new Sherco 125 dual sport! Quite inexpensive for a well equipped piece of Eurotrash! Even though of replacing my DR200 with one.
I have a tbr7, the chinese version of this bike. It burns zero oil. 15w40 on 2000 mile oil changes
Nice! It's funny how people keep saying to get a Chinese bike rather than this bike, because this xr150l is 100% Chinese 😆
@@TortureTestMagazine no the honda is better. The chinese bikes are way cheaper tho
Click bait!!!...Made me watch! Great to see a video of someone actually riding. Cheers!!!
Mine in the Philippines is 16 months old 16200 km odo.
Have many defects since I brought it out from the Honda shop. Fortunatelly the complete ignition system changed for free under warranty but it took 1 year step by step. First ignition switch than ignition assembly with the tank cap and keys than ignition relay.
All the body panels and signal lights are in a different angle (even one of the hand grip and foot peg is defected), different gaps and cannot fix it since for example the iron clips on the tank welded assimetric... Each body panel already scratched when I bought it as a brand new bike. I keep it in a covered place always maintain but already heavy rust on the frame (the paint peeling off, underneath is rust) and once again already had rust on the bike when I get it from the dealer as a brand new... No quality control for these bikes thats why many has defects. Need luck to get a better one.
But luckily I have no oil consumption. Changing oil in every 1000-1300 km. I am 200 cm (6.7 tall) and 105 kg plus my wife. Always push it hard. Half highway half rural mountain roads (rocky, muddy, sandy).
Still the factory tyres.
If they assembly properly with a bit care it would be a great bike. For my height nothing else on the filipino market. Even this is too low but at least less back and neck pain.
Asian version made in China.
The parts under warranty 2 came from China as well, 1 came from Indonesia.
The kmx 125 still is the best small motorcycle. I bought one new many years ago and all it ever needed was cables and tires and oil and chain sprockets in 55.000km
@torturetestmagazine where are you buddy, i missed your super nice videos!
I'm also having oil consumption issues. Not as bad as yours, but it is drinking oil somewhere
I have one of these bikes and can confirm oil consumption is high. I’ve got a little over 2000 miles on mine and have to top off every couple hundred miles. It’s a great bike and in all honesty I’m usually at full throttle cruising 60mph+ but it is concerning how much oil I use
I own one as well and I can only cruise at 55 and maybe get up to 63 top speed
Please can you review wr155r so hard to find
Are you on the stock tires?
please do a video on, one of those China bikes ten10 or something
Do a build and ride it in the 24 hour race. You can get a 200cc kit fairly cheap for it.
You’re in my little town!
Mine won't idle. Goin back to dealership. 13 Miles on it
Good videos on this bike. Everyone else on it rides like they just got their nails done. Glad I could get an opinion from a man's point of view.
I had a 2017 for my first bike. Excellent bike for what you pay for. Thing was bullet proof. Put a leo vince slip on on it and it will melt faces and do wheelies
I'm sure you ride that waaaay faster than I could a high strung 450.
Why did you go with the 150 instead of the 250? I'm looking at getting a budget adventure bike soon
probably because it's available right now brand new for relatively cheap. if you can get a used 250 in good condition, do it. I got a 2017 CRF250L for $4000 back in june and I love riding it. top speed is 75-80 mph and I get 75mpg if I'm not revving it out. revving it out the bike gets more around 60mpg. the stock seat kinda sucks after more than an hour of riding, but with the seat concepts seat I can ride for at least 2 hours before getting uncomfortable. be aware that in 2017 they updated the bike and gave it a bigger throttle body, so the 2012-2016 models are kinda underpowered.
Lol I have the hawk 250 and mine came with an adjustable rear spring.
Also, doesn't use any oil....
Did you get that from Amazon? If so does it work great? Or no what’s your thoughts
So the endurance race on this little bike when?
Well I'm not saying what the exact problem is. But here is a thought. US emissions standards on off road bikes are under heavy attack. Wright or wrong I'm not saying. When you lean a bike out as much as they are to get a clean pipe that is incredibly hard on the engine. Allowing some oil to bleed by the rings and or valves will alow a leaner burn. It was a racers trick back in the 70s. Under size the oil ring a little to offset for alcohol or nitro washing down the cylinder walls. Be interesting to know why exactly it's losing oil.
so how do you fix it, without swapping out the oil ring? run a thicker oil?
@martin-vv9lf A thicker oil might help, but if it's designed to burn oil that would be what keeps the engine alive. One way would be to pull the top end down and check the ring gaps. The piston gap. Also check the valve stem clearance when it's down. Another possibility but highly unlikely. Would be a blockage keeping oil in the valve cover flooding the valve instead of draining down. An airfilter with excessive filter oil on it will cause high vacuum and extra oil burn. Only a few things could cause it, but it should be traceable.
The perfect guy to do a full test on the little XR! 💪💪
Hell yeah! Nice bike.... Maybe?
I feel like Honda's QC has really been slipping lately.
Thinking about getting 1 or a klx250
well you could buy two xr150’s and all the accessories for both and still have a little left over for the price of the klx
At least you never need to change the oil.
Honda XR's are bullet proof. I still have my completely restored 1980 XR80. That said, the XR150 isn't a real "XR". It isn't even built in Japan. Though I'm considering the XR650L right now (which has been virtually unchanged for 30 years), I wouldn't take the "XR150" if someone gave it to me.
More like my old xl185. I love it for what it is
Had a 98 Dr 350 burnt a quart every 1000 miles
These engines eat up oil at higher rpm somewhere from 7500 rpm. If there is a guy behind you he will see the blue smoke and smell the burnt oil.
They really nickel and dimed this bike at the design stage.
They have been with all their bikes lately if we're being honest. It's questionable whether this is actually a better bike than a Chinese clone of the same. Insane oil consumption, barely adequate build quality . . . crazy that Honda would produce such a product.
Your air filter is getting to clogged and causing the engine to search for air from other places so it is sucking air and oil out of the vents.
it's a foo foo bike. Cheap and intended for the beginner market or to be packed around on a RV. Like a new XL125 from 1975. :-)
All new engines use oil during break in
5th gear?
Looks Chinese made like my old Chonda Hawk 250? But I traded it clean across for a 91 KLR250, sold it and bought a -83 Honda XL600R........now THIS is a bike to keep.
Dirt bikes! Awesome
Dang dude, you need a 250RL! 😂 You’re riding the snot out of it off road
With that oil consumption its basically a two stroke
Wait till u hit 5k n see if it still consumes oil..ur break in will be done by then
Are these bikes build in Japan or China?
Think it's mix of China and Mexico . . . two of the worst countries at making vehicles.
So its as fast as a grom 😆
This bike is not worth 5,000. They have a msrp 2995 but every dealer puts a out a 1500-2000 dealer fee and battery warranty. Ill be damned if im gonna pay 5g's for a 150. Just buy a used 230l or 250 for half the price and get more power and better features
Exactly. The old CRF-230L really was a great bike, and it had quality components. It's too bad they quit making it!
Honda is more about money than making good products. They're not the company they were 20 years ago.
For 1000$ more a tw200 or xt250 would be a great choice
What brand are these i am looking to get a bike and doing my home work 😂
@@121080hulk Both Yamaha. One is a tractor, one is a dual sport.
Love riding small capacity offroad bikes. more fun, less serious.
What do u expect
Its not made in japan
Thats # 1 defect
It's secretly a two stroke with all that oil consumption. 😉
How the heck are you telling me a 150 has a better top speed than my crf230l? That thing wont go above 65mph.
something must be wrong with your 230L its faster than that
I call BS on your MPH 65 claim. I can't even get to 65mph on mine!
I don't really get who this bike for. I mean for the same or less money you can get a Chinese bike which at least would have better suspension and it is unlikely that any bike in this category/at this price point will see many miles for engine longevity to be a factor.. just saying.
I imagine that someone like me is the target demographic, a dirt biker who is a huge Honda fan. I'd love to shred my dirt hike all over the single track and around town, but I can't, so this is the next best thing. Thing is, I can see what a POS it is. Super poor build quality, consumes oil like crazy, mostly made of poor quality parts from China. Can't believe we're talking about a Honda here, used to be if you owned one you had a bike that would last your life with little to no issues. How the times have changed.
China dtc bikes prob aren't legal in California
My crf 150f burned oil it's whole life. So will a xr 100, trx 400, or 230 . 80 or 50. Air cooled engines typically will. About a quart every 6-8 weeks of daily riding. Just so you know. Hondas tend to burn a little more I think because of better air cooled gas chambers. 😂 always low like a tractor.
I have a video where I measured oil consumption on my CRF230F. It used 50ml over 1000 miles. Measurable but not anywhere near what this 150 loses. I have to add oil every other day of commuting on the 150. It's outside the norm without a doubt
@TortureTestMagazine Well the 150 does no doubt it mostly ends up in the airbox I believe but a bulletproof engine at the end of the day. It is excessive on the 150, mine always was. If I can remember correctly the crankcase breather tube drips oil when parked. But it definetly would seem like it was being burnt constantly and used to worry me. But never was the top end nor did my 2006 crf ever smoke until (stolen) in 2015, rode it into the ground it was indestructable. I think after longer years of its use it started to build up in the crankcase vent tube and noticeably drip or drain. But out of the crate I think it was between oil changes 2500 mi it would be low almost off the dipstick really low and required early services. Almost too often it was like changing fresh oil it seemed. Caught onto this rather quickly. I think I ended up removing the nipple at the bottom of the vent tube 😅 so it didn't have backpressure and create excessive amounts to push out anymore oil. It just has high crankcase pressure if I'm right still.
And it's a Honda of course it has a fancy flap 😄 I think it had 2 piece connector to a separate hose with a rubber flap. And removing required relocation but check for oil in the airbox and give it a twice over it should be able to breathe freely after this.
My CRF100 never burned oil at all. 🤔
@@domenik8339 😂 either did my crf150
Snail Adjusters FTW
pcv is pukeing oil id imagine
i feel like most of you miss the point of bringing this bike to the US market.
oil burn is pretty normal on an air cooled unit
oh no... oil consumption. Try owning a few Subarus haha
Oil consumption huh? Could this be Honda's attempt at getting a street legal 2 stroke into the market...j/k 😂
The oil to fuel consumption rate on this bike puts it at a 118:1 mixture. Almost within the realm of a two stroke 😆
soooo, it just craps oil all over the ground everywhere it goes?? lol that 3k price tag.. guess we know why. no one talks about the welds either.. like the worst welds ive ever seen in my life...
Xr150L 23hr? Lol
Aren't those engines made in China now
Engine, frame and most parts are made in China. Few little doodads still made in Japan but not much.
It's a modern Honda, of course it's defective.
lmao is it a two stroke then
I wouldn’t really say the shocks a negative. These are made to be the absolute cheapest bike possible
definitely a negative. even the cheapest of Chinese bikes all have adjustable preload on the rear shocks.
@@tjsdaname that’s not true
@@tjsdaname this bikes biggest competition is a Chinese hawk 250 which doesn’t have adjustable suspension. Some have a thing you can turn but it’s not actually doing anything it’s not functional
Valid opinion, but my disappointment also lies with how it was supposed to come with a preload adjustment, according to Honda's website, but it didn't. Just my opinion but I'm not happy about being told the bike will have this feature just to receive the bike and not have the feature
@@TortureTestMagazine I agree it’s False advertising, and you and everyone should be repaid for this. However as far as off-road capable, it’s very much so but it’s no dual
Sport weapon. The average rider will put ride this machine easily. An experienced rider like yourself will be dissatisfied or disappointed but the beginner never been on a bike before riders will love