W vid Crafty, Any scale for Naruto below Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy is just downplay, Considering momoshikis dimension had a red-shift nebula implying that there is an expanding galaxy. Also it is implied to be a parallel universe essentially meaning it is a Universe in size, if he is able to effortlessly able to absorb all the the physical matter in his universe while mid battle then he would classify to universal as absorption/creation feats go hand in hand and solidify scaling for Naruto.This is not even ludicrous and is pretty consistent if you actually understand the lore of otsutsukis who aim to be higher dimensional entities with Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient like shibai. I have seen so much downplay to Naruto thinking he is only planet level against comparisons to luffy 😂. But in reality they are most likely ignorant or they are biased, hats off to you for being able to hold your ground against all the fanboys. For bleach fans I agree he scales pretty high, but the scale he provided is pretty consistent also if you watched his previous vids you would see he scaled Ichigo to low multiversal, and if he is giving the multi galaxy scale now, he is doing it with reason. Anyway bro what’s ur discord?
W vid as always Crafty Thing to add in Naruto... Jigen (nerfed) vs Koji was shaking dimensions casually (one from kara in Boruto's interaction with Ouga) similar to Momoshiki's parallel dimension Another dimension of Momoshiki is where Isshiki vs BM took place
@MrCraftyScales Bro your old scaling was perfect look Ichigo scales to universal because in the amine not only in the test hold the three relmes in his back which all universal even if you say there are one universal his able to hold a universal in his back and has the power to hold the three relmes together light novel support me, that girl who shook the three relmes could have destroyed it she even said she had to hold back and the another team zero if they release at the same time will destroy the three relmes Ichigo out scales them massively lowball Ichigo is universal low ball because his showing universal feats over and over not to and Naruto is off your using Naruto high ball making something doesn't mean you sacle to it if i built a house doesn't mean im house level
W video sir , and i personally think that ichigo too is universal, and those ppl who thinks that naruto aint uni are just bleach fans or naruto downplayers, I don't know from where they've got a mentality that naruto cant be stronger than ichigo .
Nice vid, but we really gotta stop counting BanShoMan as something in Shinia’s bag, that’s a fusion. That’s like saying Goku Vs Whoever and including Gogeta in his kit.
Mr.Crafty Finally Cooked And Is Back!😭👍 Please do Arthur pendragon (four horsemen of the Apocalypse) vs Boruto (time skip with momoshiki) next!🙏 I honestly don't know who wins?🤔
Kaguya doesn't scale to her dimensions. In the databooks the actual Kanji states that she weaved space meaning she didn't create it from nothing. And that it was a rinnesharingan technique she used. Although yes Chakra is required for the technique u should also consider how long it took for her to do so. Although via occams razor we'll automatically assume she did it instantly there are multiple things that would contradict it. When Kaguya wanted to destroy her dimension she couldn't do it via her own power as she needed to absorb more Chakra into the tso for it to get bigger and more powerful. Proving she doesn't scale to it in one shot.
@Archetype_Earthy Lmai what. Moving something is nowhere equivalent to destroying it. U didn't debunk my debunk lol. If kaguya could destroy it why couldn't she? Why did she need to absorb Chakra. That alone disproves it. Yes kaguya can create dimensions but not in one shot and not from nothing. And what's the proof of her being able to destroy multiverses or universes? Using shinras feats is a false equivalency because there's actually proof of why kaguya doesn't scale to it. Only feat is kaguya moving them which could scale her higher than planetary but not universal because of contradictions. Stay mad lmao And I'm not arguing for shinra. I know shinra beats them so that's redundant to bring up
@@georgearthur6417 prove your claim "not in one shot and not from nothing" since it seems your aware of how they are made You decide what's false equivalency despite what I said it's the same thing? Give the proof why doesn't scale to them
Watch shounen kons latest video, he irrefutably proves that ichigo is low complex multiversal to complex multiversal. It’s humiliating to think that in 2024 ichigo isn’t at bare minimum uni.
@@MrCraftyScales the three dimensions in bleach are separate space times, they are separated by the dangai which is devoid of space and time. If both soul society and world of living have space and time and they are divided by the dangai which has no space time, it’s means that they are sperate space times by definition. This alone makes makes the bleach cosmology low multi. The dangai is stated in CFYOW to be a hyperspace which presupposes qualitative superiority making it 5d. The dangai is stated to be within the garganta which could be argued makes the garganta 6d. Even if you don’t accept that the garganta is 6d, it’s blatantly stated in CFYOW that the soul king is beyond the garganta making him 6d at least. It wouldn’t make any sense for the soul king to be 5d and scale to infinte garganta when he is clearly above it and stated to have created. Ichigo is accepted as the soul king candidate, and only characters relative to the soul kings power are even considered for soul king position. Yhwach also absorbs the soul king and gains to the power to wipe out the cosmology and ichigo is able to land a fatal blow against this yhwach, which firither supports the argument that he’s relative to the soul king. Making ichigo 6d. The video makes this point absolutely clear, I don’t understand how you don’t get it. What premise is incorrect to you?
for me, you were lowballing ichigo and highballing naruto (i personally like naruto more), maybe we're just used to seeing ichigo being stronger than naruto that's why most can't accept it, including me, just like dbz fans can't accept there are thousands of characters that can beat goku, they're used to goku being the strongest hence they can't accept goku losing. i can actually see naruto being that strong but i would say he's relative if not slightly below ichigo. i also didn't get the "naruto can see the limbo clones" he can't, he can just sense it, sasuke is the one that can see it but it doesn't matter since naruto can still interact with it. anyway huge w, great video.
it really does me good to see another credible power scaler like krafty admit that naruto slams ichigo🥹🥹🥹 oh yh and i haven't read the manga but i seen alot of people scale shinra to outerversal so kinds knew this was potentially a one-sided stomp coming into this even if you dont think hes outer
@@Brolyuchiha242 No buddy Naruto doesn't beat Ichigo this guy low balled Ichigo in his lowest and Naruto highest no shit Naruto is stronger in this video but realist no Ichigo beats Naruto low effect Naruto has shown no feat above Moon level
@@DvdYhut Buddy a girl in who's part of squad zero shake the three realms which in the light novel support are universe in size and she sake them and another squad zero killed themselves temporarily because if all went bakie would have destroyed three realms which all are universe in size don't believe light novel and RUclips anyway and Ichigo massively out scales squad zero so yah there's your proof but no one is Naruto ever shown a level above Moon level or shake three universe's even that final attack Naruto and Sasuku couldn't even destroy a country, think realistic Naruto probably in them small plant
@@Brolyuchiha242 No his not, his not, Naruto moon level at best not Universal in his dream he is, no Naruto large Star to solo system that's Naruto actually AP state
So many things in Naruto are based off japanese mythology like the susaano ( uchihas ability is god of storm in japbese mythology), all members of otsutsuki clans are based off japanese mythology gods
Glad to see your making again and W I think Shinra would also win but I don’t argue you d Naruto scale I’ve seen people debunk both kaguya and momo and imo you started luffy speed scale really late in d story when he has feats like that pre time skip but overall w video keep doing your thing
@@justinwilliams3392 with the Luffy thing it's just more consistent that they scaling to light and beyond now as the speed of light was still a prominent thing, but what is your stipulations with mono and Kaguya?
@ Ichigo being at least universal+-low multi based on Scaling massively above Senjumaru who is heavily implied to at least threaten the 3 worlds in bleach being at least universal. (Squad zero literally offer them selves so they would destroy the three worlds) Scaling to Yhwach who was going to destroy the garganta, the three worlds and the dangai. The gargantua being stated to be infinite. The garganta also universal in sized because its covering all of the dimensions/worlds in bleach.
@@yxvngtony3721 3 worlds i guess multi solar system, when did we start taking uni bleach seriously, or did something else happen again in the manga, last time i read the manga it was solar system. cuz if we use bleach uni then we also better be prepared for uni naruto, planetary one piece and multi versal asta
@ garganta was stated to be infinite in the novels. The wol said to be a universe by don kanoji in the novels.(I don’t really agree) The wol and ss combined is a universe said by rukia and kisuke in the manga. Gremmy materialized outer space which is a literal universe. In the anime there are feats like Ichigo tanked the power of the three worlds, and senjumaru shaking the 3 worlds.
@@johnss9114 Light novel said the three worlds were universes in size that's why all almost all videos Ichigo beats Naruto now, we didn't know much before but author release the light novel and yah Ichigo caps to high universals many many videos support it Naruto isn't universal has never ever shown anything close to that maybe only Boruto characters maybe but Naruto himself hell no
@@MrCraftyScales Do the big three vs samurai 8 I think this further brings consistency to Universal naruto as it's a manga made by kishimoto and the main character is basically infinite in power
@@MrCraftyScales kishimoto in interviews has said he's always been interested in Sci fi So when I read samurai 8 it made seem more possible Naruto is that strong
@@MrCraftyScalesits stated in regai arc there are infinite numbers of dangai that is consistent with infinite timelines statement Garganta is a space in which they all reside and sk candidate scales to it
@@MrCraftyScalesbro if a character A can break the time barrier at the SOL in his verse Y, character B is 1000* SOL but it is not enough to break the time barrier in his verse Z, Character A reaches inassemble speed but, is A ready faster than B or the verse Y is slower than verse Z Because if you put a character from verse Z which is 10*slower that character B can also reach inassemble speed in verse Y because he is faster than light
Good vid crafty, but im ps momoshiki's feat scales way higher than js 11 million c, if light takes 93 billion years to travel from the edge of the observable universe to earth just crossing that distance in 1 year would make you 93 billion times ftl. So in 261 seconds it would be way faster, it would be 11.2 quadrillion times ftl im ps.
According to Litch As the universe expands, time flows. Which proves time and space is connected in fire force An effect on the universe's "space" and "expansion," has a direct, causal effect on time throughout the universe. It's a "space-time" in the literal sense that they are both on the same axis. Of the universe being a 4 dimensional space-time structure so if adolla is stated to be a higher dimension separated from the normal universe then it would be 5d no?
@@MrCraftyScalesI mean since fire force is a one to one to our real world universe (which is 4d) I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. Also can you elaborate on your last statement? (Sorry for the late response)
my glorious goat finally uploaded 😭😭😭 bro went from scaling ichigo from outer to 6d to multi+ to multi galaxy 😭😭 and ichigo speed from trillions of time ftl to 6000 ftl bro really fell off but w scale for naruto and lufft
Bro True Shikai Ichigo or Mugetsu should be way faster than that considering his FB form is already was faster than light which only uses a fraction of his powers.@@MrCraftyScales
The fact that Goku is stronger than all of the big 3 and yet the big 3 is able to handle Shinra (even knowing people were saying he can beat Goku with the dumbest standards ever) really makes this more embarrassing
Even if you give Luffy, Naruto and Ichigo’s universal scaling (idk how you’d even begin to scale Luffy that high but there’s gotta be an agenda out there) Shinra’s abilities would be too much.
@@ExplosiveGrape Bro scaling was off in this video me too base form Luffy Star level, Ichigo galaxy level and Naruto universal likes bro didn't cook here
@@ExplosiveGrape No it wasn't Naruto universal like what lol😂😂 that has has been debunked so many times that don't know even Death battle don't go that crazy to say Naruto is universal no all the big three were scale wrong, Ichigo is universal to, Naruto is Large Star to solo system and Luffy large plant level to maybe Star but Large plant more provable then Star, whole video was a L bro was looking so excited for it but was very disappointed when I heard Naruto universal swear broke out laughing lol😂😂😂 thought he was joking
@@user-zMobileChanne Yeah just went back, I thought crafty was saying universal Naruto is a high ball. I don’t agree with that at all he’s maximum multi solar. I don’t agree with Universal Bleach at all either.
@@ExplosiveGrape Glad you see Naruto isn't universal like what, Ichigo I can prove it in the anime if you watched it Ichigo held the three realms in his back and made and in the light novel said he can replace the soul king meaning Ichigo can hold the three realms which all universal in size because said they copy to each other all same size and girl who shocked the three realms in the anime said if all the squad zero release they bakie at the same time would destroy the three realms and Ichigo massively out scales them, remember that one girl alone shock the three realms alone and said if all squad zero released they bakie at the same time would destroy the three realms and Ichigo out scales all of them in base form, not Bakie, base form so yah base Ichigo would be high universal
@@MrCraftyScalesCan you please explained Shinrabanshoman's power and abilities? I need to understand rather than just knowing he scales higher. What can he actually do?
Shinrabanshōman is a fusion that includes Mary who is the literal concept of hope and just like Adolla can only be killed if the concept is destroyed, that alone ends HST chances of defeating ShinraBM and ShinraBM can directly control concepts as he did with the concept of death itself.
@@MrCraftyScales Ayo! I'm pretty sure that Gilgamesh vs Featherine vid will get views...it very debatable on wins, especially if you have them both a outerversal.🤔
@onesmart229 even if that is the case (I don't remember the fight) we see that his other dimensions Don't operate like that so it would be illogically to assume they all act like that
@ it would be illogical for the sky to fake in one of his dimensions and real in all the other. It’s showing clear limits so the star creation feat isn’t real.
@@youssefibrahim5496 Bro Naruto isn't universe level or high ok his not, his large Star level only person who scales universal is Ichigo, Naruto was over hyper here, Naruto isn't universal or come close to that, sorry that's the truth Naruto isn't universal and base Luffy Star level like what, if Base Luffy is Star level then Gear 5 is Galaxy's to possible universal which is nonsense
@@user-zMobileChannecrazy Naruto downplay and Luffy meat riding why don't you explain how Luffy gets to galaxy without shitty hyperbolic statements first
@@user-zMobileChanne are you stupid like genuinly??😂😂 do you know how to even scale? and btw why are people COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that momoshiki;s dimension contains 2 massive nebulas and he does scale to it and IT IS NOT A HAX
Naruto being universal has already been debunked, since in Naruto you don’t have to scale to your opponent to harm them examples are Sakura harming kaguya Kid Naruto harming zabuza With these examples you would have to then admit Sakura beats the first hokage becuase of her upscaling. It doesn’t work naruto is multi mountain range “with kurama only”.
@@MrCraftyScales ok? Then you would have to concede that Sakura beats hashirama, itachi EMS madara and six path madara since she was able to scale to kaguya…. See how absurd all this becomes once you start wanking naruto you forget about the other characters.
@ I’m actually not I’m showing you examples that contradict you your statement of Naruto being universal cause he can harm kaguya well so can Sakura so by that standard Sakura solos ems madara, hashirama and juubito all by herself since she scales to kaguya this is the stuff you Naruto wankers ignore.
Good video. Your Naruto scaling seems weird to me. Your saying momoshiki was absorbing all of the universe while fighting naruto nd sasuke, because sasuke can perceive it this automatically means his movement or combat speed masssivly faster than light? How does that make sense? Also, about the momo universal scaling. He created it nd therefore he has universal ap? I don’t understand that either. It sounds like you are using a generous interpretation so I’ll take it with a grain of salt. I don’t get how him creating a universe directly relates to his ap nd dura. It’s not like he can absorb or destroy said dimension all at one time or with a single action, hence why it’s happening over time. That would rule out scaling his ap to it. Nd idk how u got his dura to be universal Edit: wait then u say base luffy is as strong as Whitebeards best feat?? Base luffy is large planetary????
@@MrCraftyScales unfortunately I don’t have a discord. My bad. Nd I’m just wondering how u connect those creation feats to their actual punching power or jutsu. What are u saying exactly is universal? Narutos punch? Momoshikis punch? I also don’t think an entire discord convo would be necessary for you to tell me how sasuke perceiving momoshiki absorbing a universe equates to his actual combat speed. Some of these points not too important since we can get that same conclusion thru other means. There’s multiple ways to get bleach to ftl, multiple ways to get naruto to ftl etc.
@@MrCraftyScalesAizen destroying Cleaner which governed the space-time of the 5 dimensional Dangai Hyperspace.. or Ichigo slicing through Yhwach who was sustaining the 3 Realms with his Raw Power after Soul King death and had enough power and was going to destroy Garguanta(Infinite 6 Dimensional Structure) to Reform the Cosmo to its Primordial from. Where would these scale to?
@@ahmedhassan-t7t8t No we just know power scalding, you actually believe Naruto universal and Base form Luffy is Star😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you actually believe that lol okay buddy yah Naruto universal stronger then Goku in Z buddy stronger then Cell😂😂😂😂😂😂 started from today tell everybody guys Naruto is universal😂😂😂😂😂😂 good luck
Bro it’s anime the author don’t think about power scaling when writing. You can scale Naruto to town level or universal and it will sense. You can scale bleach to hill level or universal and it will sense
@@Sage447 Bro power scaling is very important to anime bra to understand anime system worse a Shoune and power scale is actually a profession some author hire to help with power system, listen if Goku destroy a universe in one era then the next can't destroy a City or losers to someone who can't even destroy a plant but they just destroyed a universes author do think about power scale they do to know how strong they character is so who know how strong the next person needs to be or you end with dragon ball where everyone is universal and no logic where humans are fighting Goku in blue power scale for a powers base show is one of the most important thing consistent, I can't my character here destroy a Star but now next time can't destroy a Town mess up your show
@@MrCraftyScales Just like consistency man because I watched many of your old videos remember you said Ichigo was universal to possible mult but now your saying his galaxy level so confused were you only scaling his base or something if not your saying Naruto beats Ichigo since Galaxy vs universal Is a bit gap Naruto could one shot Ichigo now with raw AP but old friend said Ichigo would win most of the time so confused
@@MrCraftyScales Since you scale Naruto universal to higher then you should agree Naruto one shots Ichigo because if Ichigo only higher glaxly and Naruto universal Naruto could one shot Ichigo you agree on that because gap between galaxy's and a whole universe a is massive
@@MrCraftyScales Nah bro you said Naruto is Universal and I don’t see it honestly. If Naruto is Universal then Ichigo has to be scaled a little higher than Universal. There’s a handful of characters that solo the Naruto verse. Ichigo is clearly the strongest out of the big 3. Ichigo>Naruto>luffy. I like your video though.
Good video but I think the dimension Momoshiki created wasn’t the one that was shown in the video (the one with the redshift nebula).What was shown in the video was a place called unidentified world (知れぬ世界, shirenu sekai) which is a planet that exists in an unknown region of space that Momoshiki used for the sake of harvesting chakra fruit using from one of its God Trees. The actual dimension that Momosiki created was the one in which he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that contained only a planet with a God Tree that Momoshiki created using Gyūki's chakra. Also I think Ichigo is at least universal as it is explained that if more than one member of squad zero uses bankai all three realms will be in grave danger. Combine that with the fact that Senjumaru said that only a slight use of their power (individually) is enough to preform the feat and Oetsu telling her to not overdo it (implying that if she uses more power of her bankai it would seriously damage or even destroy the three realms) comfortably makes Ichigo universal, at least for me.
@@arturmagomedov4849 I never seen that dimension been referred to anything else besides his dimension and it's only ever stated they can shake the universe not destroy
@ From everything I’ve seen Momosiki’s dimension and the one where the redshift nebula is shown in are completely different as not only are they shown to be completely different visually when compared to each other but it is also unrealistic and genuinely makes no sense for Momoshki to create a universe using absurd amounts of chakra only to then slowly re absorb it all of it back into himself via god trees. And correct me if I’m wrong but the dimension described in the novel that is stated to be created by Momoshiki is only referring to the one in which the battle between him and Naruto and Sasuke took place in (the one with nothing of importance in it). And about the bankai it is stated that the zero squad created the seal to stop two or more of their members from simultaneously using their true power and I cannot think of any other possible explanation for this aside from that would simply be too much for the three worlds to handle which makes a lot of sense considering a bankai from a single member already causing this much even while being heavily held back.(also now that I think about it even if the dimension is Momoshiki’s saying that what we see in the sky is redshift nebula is complete headcanon as it can be something else like red aurora for example.)
@@m.degamaulana2741 Bro all three get one shot all of them unfortunately😂😂 second Ichigo would carry if Shrika plays around Naruto isn't universal, Base form Luffy isn't Star, Ichigo high universal this is the right scale and doesn't matter all three get one shot anyway
@@user-zMobileChanne True ngl all of them get atomized by shinras presence naruto not being uni I can kinda get since not everyone is gonna agree with higher interpretation for otsusuki dimensions how is ichigo high uni tho all of his unni statements seems to be kinda eh
@@m.degamaulana2741 Light novel support the face the three realms are universal and a girl in a anime by going bakie shake the three realms and said if all the squad zero went bakie the three realms will get destroyed and that's why in the anime they killed themselves temporarily and Ichigo out scales all of them massively, the reason 2-4 years ago we didn't know how big the three realms were but the author of bleach released light novel and did lot of interviews that's why you see a lot of people agree that Ichigo beats Naruto vast majority people agree Ichigo beat Naruto because the author of bleach released a light novel and even in a interview
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This was a L video my option, big three all of them were scaled wrong, L video hopefully next will be better but this one L take, horrible scaling
@@user-zMobileChanne ok if its bad give me ur discord we can discuss it/debate it if u want
@@user-zMobileChanne Agreed🤝
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@@ashtonwilliams9839 based of what
@@user-zMobileChanne crazy how ur ducking
W vid Crafty, Any scale for Naruto below Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy is just downplay, Considering momoshikis dimension had a red-shift nebula implying that there is an expanding galaxy. Also it is implied to be a parallel universe essentially meaning it is a Universe in size, if he is able to effortlessly able to absorb all the the physical matter in his universe while mid battle then he would classify to universal as absorption/creation feats go hand in hand and solidify scaling for Naruto.This is not even ludicrous and is pretty consistent if you actually understand the lore of otsutsukis who aim to be higher dimensional entities with Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient like shibai. I have seen so much downplay to Naruto thinking he is only planet level against comparisons to luffy 😂. But in reality they are most likely ignorant or they are biased, hats off to you for being able to hold your ground against all the fanboys. For bleach fans I agree he scales pretty high, but the scale he provided is pretty consistent also if you watched his previous vids you would see he scaled Ichigo to low multiversal, and if he is giving the multi galaxy scale now, he is doing it with reason. Anyway bro what’s ur discord?
W Video! Absolutely love Shinra and it's awesome to see how he compares to characters like the Big 3 MCs! 😤🙏🔥
W vid as always Crafty
Thing to add in Naruto... Jigen (nerfed) vs Koji was shaking dimensions casually (one from kara in Boruto's interaction with Ouga) similar to Momoshiki's parallel dimension
Another dimension of Momoshiki is where Isshiki vs BM took place
@@Archetype_Earthy we're is that stated?
@@MrCraftyScales you have cord?
Great vid maybe slightly lowball of ichigo and a very generous highball for Luffy💀
@@1922_kinda_girl I don't really like the star end for Luffy but the large planetary seems good
Ichigo carries hard
@@user-zMobileChanne Naruto actually 😭
Your saying Naruto is stronger then Ichigo, his not that's common knowledge bro
@user-zMobileChanne based off what is he not stronger?
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Bro your old scaling was perfect look Ichigo scales to universal because in the amine not only in the test hold the three relmes in his back which all universal even if you say there are one universal his able to hold a universal in his back and has the power to hold the three relmes together light novel support me, that girl who shook the three relmes could have destroyed it she even said she had to hold back and the another team zero if they release at the same time will destroy the three relmes Ichigo out scales them massively lowball Ichigo is universal low ball because his showing universal feats over and over not to and Naruto is off your using Naruto high ball making something doesn't mean you sacle to it if i built a house doesn't mean im house level
@user-zMobileChanne ok plz explain how the Naruto is a "high ball" and it's never stated that they can destroy the realms only shake them
W video sir , and i personally think that ichigo too is universal, and those ppl who thinks that naruto aint uni are just bleach fans or naruto downplayers, I don't know from where they've got a mentality that naruto cant be stronger than ichigo .
Nice vid, but we really gotta stop counting BanShoMan as something in Shinia’s bag, that’s a fusion.
That’s like saying Goku Vs Whoever and including Gogeta in his kit.
@@JinxeBlaq I mean ya but I was spastically using him
Mr.Crafty Finally Cooked And Is Back!😭👍
Please do Arthur pendragon (four horsemen of the Apocalypse) vs Boruto (time skip with momoshiki) next!🙏
I honestly don't know who wins?🤔
Kaguya doesn't scale to her dimensions. In the databooks the actual Kanji states that she weaved space meaning she didn't create it from nothing. And that it was a rinnesharingan technique she used. Although yes Chakra is required for the technique u should also consider how long it took for her to do so.
Although via occams razor we'll automatically assume she did it instantly there are multiple things that would contradict it.
When Kaguya wanted to destroy her dimension she couldn't do it via her own power as she needed to absorb more Chakra into the tso for it to get bigger and more powerful. Proving she doesn't scale to it in one shot.
Lmao this is copium on another level
At least read the fight/manga
@Archetype_Earthy Lmai what. Moving something is nowhere equivalent to destroying it. U didn't debunk my debunk lol.
If kaguya could destroy it why couldn't she? Why did she need to absorb Chakra. That alone disproves it.
Yes kaguya can create dimensions but not in one shot and not from nothing. And what's the proof of her being able to destroy multiverses or universes?
Using shinras feats is a false equivalency because there's actually proof of why kaguya doesn't scale to it.
Only feat is kaguya moving them which could scale her higher than planetary but not universal because of contradictions. Stay mad lmao
And I'm not arguing for shinra. I know shinra beats them so that's redundant to bring up
@@georgearthur6417 prove your claim "not in one shot and not from nothing" since it seems your aware of how they are made
You decide what's false equivalency despite what I said it's the same thing?
Give the proof why doesn't scale to them
@@Archetype_Earthy wow everything u asked for I literally gave proof of that. Reread the comment
@@georgearthur6417 your claims got debunked by the Manga itself
You and Clyde need to do a collab on Ichigo vs Naruto😂
@@ashtonwilliams9839 that would be low-key lit
Watch shounen kons latest video, he irrefutably proves that ichigo is low complex multiversal to complex multiversal. It’s humiliating to think that in 2024 ichigo isn’t at bare minimum uni.
@@Amaterasu77306 send the vid
@@MrCraftyScales ruclips.net/video/p7zZtXwSIGk/видео.htmlsi=MGOhhKMAHX46q7wl
@Amaterasu77306 ya lmfao I don't see how this proves 6D lmfao
@@MrCraftyScales the three dimensions in bleach are separate space times, they are separated by the dangai which is devoid of space and time. If both soul society and world of living have space and time and they are divided by the dangai which has no space time, it’s means that they are sperate space times by definition. This alone makes makes the bleach cosmology low multi.
The dangai is stated in CFYOW to be a hyperspace which presupposes qualitative superiority making it 5d. The dangai is stated to be within the garganta which could be argued makes the garganta 6d.
Even if you don’t accept that the garganta is 6d, it’s blatantly stated in CFYOW that the soul king is beyond the garganta making him 6d at least. It wouldn’t make any sense for the soul king to be 5d and scale to infinte garganta when he is clearly above it and stated to have created.
Ichigo is accepted as the soul king candidate, and only characters relative to the soul kings power are even considered for soul king position.
Yhwach also absorbs the soul king and gains to the power to wipe out the cosmology and ichigo is able to land a fatal blow against this yhwach, which firither supports the argument that he’s relative to the soul king.
Making ichigo 6d.
The video makes this point absolutely clear, I don’t understand how you don’t get it. What premise is incorrect to you?
That intro is nostalgia incarnate
@@evilovesperry I'm happy it did it for you 🤣
Didn't kaguya make multiple dimensions like momshiki did shouldn't that make baryon mode Naruto low multiveral
for me, you were lowballing ichigo and highballing naruto (i personally like naruto more), maybe we're just used to seeing ichigo being stronger than naruto that's why most can't accept it, including me, just like dbz fans can't accept there are thousands of characters that can beat goku, they're used to goku being the strongest hence they can't accept goku losing. i can actually see naruto being that strong but i would say he's relative if not slightly below ichigo. i also didn't get the "naruto can see the limbo clones" he can't, he can just sense it, sasuke is the one that can see it but it doesn't matter since naruto can still interact with it. anyway huge w, great video.
There are no thousands of characters stronger than Goku
We gotttttt a shinra video!!❤❤
it really does me good to see another credible power scaler like krafty admit that naruto slams ichigo🥹🥹🥹 oh yh and i haven't read the manga but i seen alot of people scale shinra to outerversal so kinds knew this was potentially a one-sided stomp coming into this even if you dont think hes outer
@@Brolyuchiha242
No buddy Naruto doesn't beat Ichigo this guy low balled Ichigo in his lowest and Naruto highest no shit Naruto is stronger in this video but realist no Ichigo beats Naruto low effect Naruto has shown no feat above Moon level
@@user-zMobileChanne Ichigo has shown no feat above hill lvl
@@user-zMobileChanne naww he was actually pretty chill with the Naruto scaling bro can scale higher than universal
@@DvdYhut
Buddy a girl in who's part of squad zero shake the three realms which in the light novel support are universe in size and she sake them and another squad zero killed themselves temporarily because if all went bakie would have destroyed three realms which all are universe in size don't believe light novel and RUclips anyway and Ichigo massively out scales squad zero so yah there's your proof but no one is Naruto ever shown a level above Moon level or shake three universe's even that final attack Naruto and Sasuku couldn't even destroy a country, think realistic Naruto probably in them small plant
@@Brolyuchiha242
No his not, his not, Naruto moon level at best not Universal in his dream he is, no Naruto large Star to solo system that's Naruto actually AP state
Have you ever watched Akame Ga Kill? If so you should scale that series
@@ashuraomega1000 I haven't but I will
This is genuinely an insanely cool video honestly. Btw, I want to ask if you'd do the Japanese gods vs the Narutoverse. I'm willing to help out.
So many things in Naruto are based off japanese mythology like the susaano ( uchihas ability is god of storm in japbese mythology), all members of otsutsuki clans are based off japanese mythology gods
@@juliusnovachrono4370 oh that sounds like an amazing video and plz I would love the help
@@MrCraftyScales I sent you everything you need for the mythology powerscaling.
@juliusnovachrono4370 tysm man
Glad to see your making again and W I think Shinra would also win but I don’t argue you d Naruto scale I’ve seen people debunk both kaguya and momo and imo you started luffy speed scale really late in d story when he has feats like that pre time skip but overall w video keep doing your thing
@@justinwilliams3392 with the Luffy thing it's just more consistent that they scaling to light and beyond now as the speed of light was still a prominent thing, but what is your stipulations with mono and Kaguya?
@@MrCraftyScalesit's just their mentality that Naruto can't reach those levels
Insane Ichigo low ball
@@yxvngtony3721 how?
@ Ichigo being at least universal+-low multi based on
Scaling massively above Senjumaru who is heavily implied to at least threaten the 3 worlds in bleach being at least universal. (Squad zero literally offer them selves so they would destroy the three worlds)
Scaling to Yhwach who was going to destroy the garganta, the three worlds and the dangai. The gargantua being stated to be infinite. The garganta also universal in sized because its covering all of the dimensions/worlds in bleach.
@@yxvngtony3721 3 worlds i guess multi solar system, when did we start taking uni bleach seriously, or did something else happen again in the manga, last time i read the manga it was solar system.
cuz if we use bleach uni then we also better be prepared for uni naruto, planetary one piece and multi versal asta
@ garganta was stated to be infinite in the novels. The wol said to be a universe by don kanoji in the novels.(I don’t really agree) The wol and ss combined is a universe said by rukia and kisuke in the manga. Gremmy materialized outer space which is a literal universe. In the anime there are feats like Ichigo tanked the power of the three worlds, and senjumaru shaking the 3 worlds.
@@johnss9114
Light novel said the three worlds were universes in size that's why all almost all videos Ichigo beats Naruto now, we didn't know much before but author release the light novel and yah Ichigo caps to high universals many many videos support it Naruto isn't universal has never ever shown anything close to that maybe only Boruto characters maybe but Naruto himself hell no
Welcome back bro it’s good to see your content again! 🔥🔥🔥
@@yojosenpai261 tysm man 🙏 in actually almost done with my next vid
Same here I’m almost done with mine but can’t wait to watch your next vid!
@@MrCraftyScales Do the big three vs samurai 8 I think this further brings consistency to Universal naruto as it's a manga made by kishimoto and the main character is basically infinite in power
@orpheemulemo8053 oh that's a great idea
@@MrCraftyScales kishimoto in interviews has said he's always been interested in Sci fi
So when I read samurai 8 it made seem more possible Naruto is that strong
W+ fax
But ichigo is low complex multiversal
@@Ruler_calamity_477s thx, bout how?
@@MrCraftyScales "because trust me bro" ahh comment😭
@@MrCraftyScalesits stated in regai arc there are infinite numbers of dangai that is consistent with infinite timelines statement
Garganta is a space in which they all reside and sk candidate scales to it
@@MrCraftyScales You don't believe Ichigo is multiversal anymore?
@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 yes
Can you do a Natsu scale? Or a video with Natsu vs Somebody?
@@WakaDior ofc
@@MrCraftyScalesbro if a character A can break the time barrier at the SOL in his verse Y, character B is 1000* SOL but it is not enough to break the time barrier in his verse Z, Character A reaches inassemble speed but, is A ready faster than B or the verse Y is slower than verse Z
Because if you put a character from verse Z which is 10*slower that character B can also reach inassemble speed in verse Y because he is faster than light
@@devilgod4552 no? That is subjectify to the laws to there cosmology
Good vid crafty, but im ps momoshiki's feat scales way higher than js 11 million c, if light takes 93 billion years to travel from the edge of the observable universe to earth just crossing that distance in 1 year would make you 93 billion times ftl. So in 261 seconds it would be way faster, it would be 11.2 quadrillion times ftl im ps.
Your back!
Great video bro
Use the same yukiyo feats for Kaguya
@@Thesaneboyys I did?
Kaguya didn’t create those Worlds
@Chillchildren999 based off what
@@ChillDeathgodwhat's the evidence she didn't
W video
Crafty posting on election day. You sly dog. Yes, I will vote for you as president. Also make that Shantae scale, I swear to God.
Universal naruto🤯
According to Litch As the universe expands, time flows. Which proves time and space is connected in fire force An effect on the universe's "space" and "expansion," has a direct, causal effect on time throughout the universe. It's a "space-time" in the literal sense that they are both on the same axis. Of the universe being a 4 dimensional space-time structure so if adolla is stated to be a higher dimension separated from the normal universe then it would be 5d no?
@@chakrafuji458 for one I don't know how that proves there connected also Space-time isn't 4D spatial
@@MrCraftyScalesI mean since fire force is a one to one to our real world universe (which is 4d) I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. Also can you elaborate on your last statement? (Sorry for the late response)
Mr Crafty Scales can you do Gojo Satoru from Jujutsu Kaisen VS Ren Yamashiro from Mato Seihei no Slave.
Shrina is still a Goku victim.
my glorious goat finally uploaded 😭😭😭
bro went from scaling ichigo from outer to 6d to multi+ to multi galaxy 😭😭
and ichigo speed from trillions of time ftl to 6000 ftl
bro really fell off
but w scale for naruto and lufft
@@giodonn5172 hey that's base Ichigo speed, if u do the math or the math I have horn of salvation he would be billions ftl
Bro True Shikai Ichigo or Mugetsu should be way faster than that considering his FB form is already was faster than light which only uses a fraction of his powers.@@MrCraftyScales
@abyzz4419 yes like I said he would be billions into ftl
@@MrCraftyScales but saying shines beats ichigo is diabolical my glorious king
@giodonn5172 why?
saitama victims getting time to shine.
@@mrsketchysketch680 lmfao
@@MrCraftyScales lol.
I don't think Saitama is uni
@@the_marvelous_one why
@@MrCraftyScaleshaven't seen anything universal from him yet but I'm not so sure about the emty void scaling
The fact that Goku is stronger than all of the big 3 and yet the big 3 is able to handle Shinra (even knowing people were saying he can beat Goku with the dumbest standards ever) really makes this more embarrassing
@@dylanhudec979 shinra beats the big 3
Idk about Goku tbh but Shinra wipes the floor with the Big 3 idk what ur on 😭🙏
In general it is like this, Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>Shinra>>Big 3 @@BiggieCrescent
Even if you give Luffy, Naruto and Ichigo’s universal scaling (idk how you’d even begin to scale Luffy that high but there’s gotta be an agenda out there) Shinra’s abilities would be too much.
@@ExplosiveGrape
Bro scaling was off in this video me too base form Luffy Star level, Ichigo galaxy level and Naruto universal likes bro didn't cook here
@ I’d say this scaling is pretty accurate. At least for bleach and naruto, I don’t really pay attention to one piece power scaling.
@@ExplosiveGrape
No it wasn't Naruto universal like what lol😂😂 that has has been debunked so many times that don't know even Death battle don't go that crazy to say Naruto is universal no all the big three were scale wrong, Ichigo is universal to, Naruto is Large Star to solo system and Luffy large plant level to maybe Star but Large plant more provable then Star, whole video was a L bro was looking so excited for it but was very disappointed when I heard Naruto universal swear broke out laughing lol😂😂😂 thought he was joking
@@user-zMobileChanne Yeah just went back, I thought crafty was saying universal Naruto is a high ball. I don’t agree with that at all he’s maximum multi solar.
I don’t agree with Universal Bleach at all either.
@@ExplosiveGrape
Glad you see Naruto isn't universal like what, Ichigo I can prove it in the anime if you watched it Ichigo held the three realms in his back and made and in the light novel said he can replace the soul king meaning Ichigo can hold the three realms which all universal in size because said they copy to each other all same size and girl who shocked the three realms in the anime said if all the squad zero release they bakie at the same time would destroy the three realms and Ichigo massively out scales them, remember that one girl alone shock the three realms alone and said if all squad zero released they bakie at the same time would destroy the three realms and Ichigo out scales all of them in base form, not Bakie, base form so yah base Ichigo would be high universal
Ichigo scales way above multi galaxy and can be argued to low complex
@@Pushpitaprasad how?
Yo Mr Crafty Scales Please Make this at the Video I Requested!
@@user-adrsilva123 which one?
@ on How Strong Guts Truly is! Along with the Whole Berserk Verse! And No Downplaying the Slightest!
@user-adrsilva123 ohhh yaaa
@@MrCraftyScalesCan you please explained Shinrabanshoman's power and abilities? I need to understand rather than just knowing he scales higher. What can he actually do?
@@user-adrsilva123
My boy Guts can't even solo Demon Slayer...I'm sorry bro!😭
Shinrabanshōman is a fusion that includes Mary who is the literal concept of hope and just like Adolla can only be killed if the concept is destroyed, that alone ends HST chances of defeating ShinraBM and ShinraBM can directly control concepts as he did with the concept of death itself.
Can you do how strong is kumagawa from madaka box
@@kennyflores7629 sure
@@MrCraftyScales
Ayo! I'm pretty sure that Gilgamesh vs Featherine vid will get views...it very debatable on wins, especially if you have them both a outerversal.🤔
@georgegobin1839 that's actually very interesting
@@MrCraftyScales
It was actually vid I requested but take all the time you need bro!🗿😅👍
@georgegobin1839 it will come so sorry 🙏 I'ma be doing the alacurd one soon
2:03 The Sky in Yukio’s dimension isn’t real.
@@onesmart229 based off what?
@ Renji’s fight against dirty boots also takes place in Yukio’s dimension. You see the sky has corners from where the wall meets the roof.
@onesmart229 even if that is the case (I don't remember the fight) we see that his other dimensions Don't operate like that so it would be illogically to assume they all act like that
@ it would be illogical for the sky to fake in one of his dimensions and real in all the other. It’s showing clear limits so the star creation feat isn’t real.
@@onesmart229sry my bad I didn't see this give me ur discord if u want debate or discuss it
people need to stop downplaying naruto, i dont recomend people watch scalling vids on tik tok nor insta😭
@@youssefibrahim5496
Bro Naruto isn't universe level or high ok his not, his large Star level only person who scales universal is Ichigo, Naruto was over hyper here, Naruto isn't universal or come close to that, sorry that's the truth Naruto isn't universal and base Luffy Star level like what, if Base Luffy is Star level then Gear 5 is Galaxy's to possible universal which is nonsense
@@user-zMobileChanne are you retarded? like genuinly? are you ok? becuz you clearly dont know how to scale
@@user-zMobileChannecrazy Naruto downplay and Luffy meat riding why don't you explain how Luffy gets to galaxy without shitty hyperbolic statements first
@@user-zMobileChanne are you stupid like genuinly??😂😂 do you know how to even scale? and btw why are people COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that momoshiki;s dimension contains 2 massive nebulas and he does scale to it and IT IS NOT A HAX
@@user-zMobileChannehow Narutos not universal ??? , did ya even watched the video or just Naruto downplayer or bleach fan 😂😂
Naruto being universal has already been debunked, since in Naruto you don’t have to scale to your opponent to harm them examples are
Sakura harming kaguya
Kid Naruto harming zabuza
With these examples you would have to then admit Sakura beats the first hokage becuase of her upscaling. It doesn’t work naruto is multi mountain range “with kurama only”.
@@Pushiii736 ok? Sakura just scales high lmfao that's not a debunk
@@MrCraftyScales ok? Then you would have to concede that Sakura beats hashirama, itachi EMS madara and six path madara since she was able to scale to kaguya…. See how absurd all this becomes once you start wanking naruto you forget about the other characters.
@Pushiii736 ok and? Like bro your just appealing to your own feelings lol that doesn't debunk anything
@ I’m actually not I’m showing you examples that contradict you your statement of Naruto being universal cause he can harm kaguya well so can Sakura so by that standard Sakura solos ems madara, hashirama and juubito all by herself since she scales to kaguya this is the stuff you Naruto wankers ignore.
@@MrCraftyScalesfr
can shinra beat Goku tho? Would be an interesting Video.
Nah goku outscales
No
Shinra Kusakbe wipes the floor with Big 3
Good video. Your Naruto scaling seems weird to me. Your saying momoshiki was absorbing all of the universe while fighting naruto nd sasuke, because sasuke can perceive it this automatically means his movement or combat speed masssivly faster than light? How does that make sense?
Also, about the momo universal scaling. He created it nd therefore he has universal ap? I don’t understand that either. It sounds like you are using a generous interpretation so I’ll take it with a grain of salt. I don’t get how him creating a universe directly relates to his ap nd dura. It’s not like he can absorb or destroy said dimension all at one time or with a single action, hence why it’s happening over time. That would rule out scaling his ap to it. Nd idk how u got his dura to be universal
Edit: wait then u say base luffy is as strong as Whitebeards best feat?? Base luffy is large planetary????
Creation=detruction(generally) in powerscaling.
@@tjadams98 I don't see how it's generous If you like to discuss or debate it we can discuss it in discord
@@MrCraftyScales unfortunately I don’t have a discord. My bad. Nd I’m just wondering how u connect those creation feats to their actual punching power or jutsu. What are u saying exactly is universal? Narutos punch? Momoshikis punch?
I also don’t think an entire discord convo would be necessary for you to tell me how sasuke perceiving momoshiki absorbing a universe equates to his actual combat speed.
Some of these points not too important since we can get that same conclusion thru other means. There’s multiple ways to get bleach to ftl, multiple ways to get naruto to ftl etc.
Naruto is not Universal and Momoshiki didn’t create those dimensions those are fake translations
@@ChillDeathgod based off what?
Shinra solos big 3, only Ichigo can give him a good fight but after all shinra will beat him
Ichigo and Naruto*
@captainff2614 Naruto is fooder, he is getting cooked instantly
@@zaimhoque8418 Kubo does not know you, stop the glaze
@@DvdYhut oh you think I am glazing Naruto 😭🙏? Kubo dosen't know you either
I get ichigo is low multi
@@Lime-green-death-beam how?
lowball ichigo is
@@MrCraftyScalesAizen destroying Cleaner which governed the space-time of the 5 dimensional Dangai Hyperspace.. or Ichigo slicing through Yhwach who was sustaining the 3 Realms with his Raw Power after Soul King death and had enough power and was going to destroy Garguanta(Infinite 6 Dimensional Structure) to Reform the Cosmo to its Primordial from.
Where would these scale to?
@abyzz4419 how is the dangai 5D? And how is the garganta 6D? And he doesn't scale to a full power soul king yhwach
@ ur a moron
Don’t worry about them they’re just bleach fans😭🙏
@@ahmedhassan-t7t8t
No we just know power scalding, you actually believe Naruto universal and Base form Luffy is Star😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you actually believe that lol okay buddy yah Naruto universal stronger then Goku in Z buddy stronger then Cell😂😂😂😂😂😂 started from today tell everybody guys Naruto is universal😂😂😂😂😂😂 good luck
Bro it’s anime the author don’t think about power scaling when writing. You can scale Naruto to town level or universal and it will sense.
You can scale bleach to hill level or universal and it will sense
@@Sage447
Bro power scaling is very important to anime bra to understand anime system worse a Shoune and power scale is actually a profession some author hire to help with power system, listen if Goku destroy a universe in one era then the next can't destroy a City or losers to someone who can't even destroy a plant but they just destroyed a universes author do think about power scale they do to know how strong they character is so who know how strong the next person needs to be or you end with dragon ball where everyone is universal and no logic where humans are fighting Goku in blue power scale for a powers base show is one of the most important thing consistent, I can't my character here destroy a Star but now next time can't destroy a Town mess up your show
@@user-zMobileChannebase Luffy isn't star and how is Naruto not uni
@@m.degamaulana2741
Explain to me how his universal, explain to me
W scale
But
Naruto resists existence erasure 🤡
@@nighfinite "resist this L" - Shinra
So now Naruto is universal and Ichigo galaxy level😂😂😂 bro what
@@user-zMobileChanne Naruto can be universal but even so what's a matter with it?
@@MrCraftyScales
Just like consistency man because I watched many of your old videos remember you said Ichigo was universal to possible mult but now your saying his galaxy level so confused were you only scaling his base or something if not your saying Naruto beats Ichigo since Galaxy vs universal Is a bit gap Naruto could one shot Ichigo now with raw AP but old friend said Ichigo would win most of the time so confused
@user-zMobileChanne ok I've revised my scaling and he just doesn't scale that high
@@MrCraftyScales
Since you scale Naruto universal to higher then you should agree Naruto one shots Ichigo because if Ichigo only higher glaxly and Naruto universal Naruto could one shot Ichigo you agree on that because gap between galaxy's and a whole universe a is massive
@user-zMobileChanne ok?
Shinra only threat is Ichigo🐐
@@ashtonwilliams9839 Naruto
@@MrCraftyScales Nah bro you said Naruto is Universal and I don’t see it honestly. If Naruto is Universal then Ichigo has to be scaled a little higher than Universal. There’s a handful of characters that solo the Naruto verse. Ichigo is clearly the strongest out of the big 3. Ichigo>Naruto>luffy. I like your video though.
@ashtonwilliams9839 what kind of reasoning is that?
Threat?😂
@@MacDuffeywell Ichigo is clearly stronger than Naruto and luffy. Shinra is a force to be reckoned with.
Ichigo hard carry 😂😂but idt he beats shinra lol
Good video but I think the dimension Momoshiki created wasn’t the one that was shown in the video (the one with the redshift nebula).What was shown in the video was a place called unidentified world (知れぬ世界, shirenu sekai) which is a planet that exists in an unknown region of space that Momoshiki used for the sake of harvesting chakra fruit using from one of its God Trees. The actual dimension that Momosiki created was the one in which he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that contained only a planet with a God Tree that Momoshiki created using Gyūki's chakra. Also I think Ichigo is at least universal as it is explained that if more than one member of squad zero uses bankai all three realms will be in grave danger. Combine that with the fact that Senjumaru said that only a slight use of their power (individually) is enough to preform the feat and Oetsu telling her to not overdo it (implying that if she uses more power of her bankai it would seriously damage or even destroy the three realms) comfortably makes Ichigo universal, at least for me.
@@arturmagomedov4849 I never seen that dimension been referred to anything else besides his dimension and it's only ever stated they can shake the universe not destroy
@ From everything I’ve seen Momosiki’s dimension and the one where the redshift nebula is shown in are completely different as not only are they shown to be completely different visually when compared to each other but it is also unrealistic and genuinely makes no sense for Momoshki to create a universe using absurd amounts of chakra only to then slowly re absorb it all of it back into himself via god trees. And correct me if I’m wrong but the dimension described in the novel that is stated to be created by Momoshiki is only referring to the one in which the battle between him and Naruto and Sasuke took place in (the one with nothing of importance in it). And about the bankai it is stated that the zero squad created the seal to stop two or more of their members from simultaneously using their true power and I cannot think of any other possible explanation for this aside from that would simply be too much for the three worlds to handle which makes a lot of sense considering a bankai from a single member already causing this much even while being heavily held back.(also now that I think about it even if the dimension is Momoshiki’s saying that what we see in the sky is redshift nebula is complete headcanon as it can be something else like red aurora for example.)
kid naruto vs gojo
My goat naruto carries, ichigo will help alot and luffy unfortunately gets fodderized the moment the fight starts
delusional kid goin crazy
@@m.degamaulana2741
Bro all three get one shot all of them unfortunately😂😂 second Ichigo would carry if Shrika plays around Naruto isn't universal, Base form Luffy isn't Star, Ichigo high universal this is the right scale and doesn't matter all three get one shot anyway
@@user-zMobileChanne True ngl all of them get atomized by shinras presence naruto not being uni I can kinda get since not everyone is gonna agree with higher interpretation for otsusuki dimensions how is ichigo high uni tho all of his unni statements seems to be kinda eh
@@m.degamaulana2741
Light novel support the face the three realms are universal and a girl in a anime by going bakie shake the three realms and said if all the squad zero went bakie the three realms will get destroyed and that's why in the anime they killed themselves temporarily and Ichigo out scales all of them massively, the reason 2-4 years ago we didn't know how big the three realms were but the author of bleach released light novel and did lot of interviews that's why you see a lot of people agree that Ichigo beats Naruto vast majority people agree Ichigo beat Naruto because the author of bleach released a light novel and even in a interview