💔REN REINVENTS STORYTELLING | Tale of Jenny and Screech by REN
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Two first tales are based on a true story. Violet`s tale was written two years later and sealed the drama into Shakespear-level tragedy.
Thanks for that info
That's extremely misleading though as virtually everything in the first two tales isn't factual, beyond the fact that a 14 year old boy killed a young woman with a knife. The woman wasn't 14, nor was she a prostitute, like Jenny. The boy was arrested, not shot etc etc...
bullshit they are....the prostitute was not 14 years old and the 14 year old boy who killed her was not killed by police !!
The article that this is based off of ended with the quote "It's such a shame." She mentioned how the lyrics repeat; Everything repeats, Ren did that to point out that this stuff needlessly happens over and over in an endless cycle, it's such a shame.
That's misleading. Most of those stories are also made up by Ren. He read an article in the middle pages of a newspaper about a stabbing by a 14 year old boy with the headline "Such a shame". It resonated with him that it was so common that it was barely news.
I'm glad your mom took your concerns seriously and prioritized your safety over her desire for companionship. Best mom award!
Your concerns helped her avoid abusive men.
Violet's Tale is a horror masterpiece. Beautifully written and performed, and devastating. Still after dozens of listens, reactions like yours make me weep at it's brilliance.
I guess this is a modern-day version of how (a long time ago) a bard used to entertain, with only a 'voice talent' and a musical instrument: Telling a (harsh) story about life , and being true to the story that must be told to the listeners..
Great comments here, Elvann. 👍👍
Recently I read an article that said often minstrels (or bards) told stories that made fun of the nobility (including the king or queen) and sometimes got the peasants and townsfolk so riled up that they would riot. In other words, they were truth-tellers and--like Ren--"went hard" and didn't pull any punches.
Ren actually had released the videos individually (Violet's Tale came out 4 years after the first 2), but due to fan demand, he put them in the long format video so people wouldn't have to see them out of order. So thankful he did.
It was a ride and the end was a free fall.
Reinvents?
YES!
But Also
RESURRECTS
"walked it a thousand times before" was one of the darkest lines there is in this trilogy.
Okay... now starting Violet's Tale. Anyone who plays the guitar that well is DEFINITELY detuning intentionally. No errors, no way. He goes slightly sharp tones in his vocals as well. He's fascinating!! I continue to be blown away. And your reactions are impressive as he**... Your expression and your long-exhaled sigh at the end? Just wow. Liked (Loved wasn't an option) and subscribed!!
I also love how well Ren uses silence and spacing to emphasize certain lines or as a storytelling medium. It makes his delivery hit so much harder in certain spots.
Yes, makes it very organic too!
Chalk outlines How to be me (live) with Chinchilla is a must.
Already filmed it! It’s coming soon 🤓
Someone else put it brilliantly: ren is perfectly imperfect
I love that I’ve heard this song probably near 100 times and I always notice another small, key line or connection.
When he’s talking about Jenny during the mugging, he continuously refers to her as stone like, first a stalactite and then a statue.
Great first use of the imagery of a stalactite, and then the continuous connection to the blade that could “bite through steel and slice concrete”.
thank you for continuing to react and support my favourite artist ever ❤❤❤
Outside of the genius that Ren is, I love how hard he plays the strings. He plays that guitar hard.
Very cultured reaction. And well done to your mother for thinking about you with her relationships ... ♥ Subbed
He has an insight to the human condition, at a relatively young age, and an ability to express it in such a way to reach the hearts and minds of several generations; It gives me hope for humankind. I'm in midwestern U.S. and times are bleak from my perspective. Ren's music helps me (and MANY others) EXHALE. Thank you for the heartfelt reaction.
18:30 I love this. I dated a single mother who was absolutely protective that her child didn't get affected by her dating. It was seriously one of the most responsible and honorable things I had ever experienced, and we were both dumb kids, but she had that instinct. I also love this reaction. Subbed.
Your instinct is backed up by overwhelming facts. The numbers are so high for abuse that it’s almost neglectful to not be EXTREMELY cautious.
All three of these are done live, in one take
Lovely reaction to this tough one and also appreciated you sharing your own experience growing up and the kindness and love your mother showed you. Look forward to the next one. " Humble " " Ocean " "Penitence " and then the wonderful " How to be Me " and " Chalk Outlines " ( Must be live )
I concur.
Yeah. Good catrch on the guitar. Ren has talked about the specific tuning of the guitar for Hi Ren, so he really likes discord and resolution (not sure about the exact terms). I think it was in the Justin Hawkins interview. Loved your reaction!
Such a bold statement on systemic violence and societal woes. I did not see the ending coming the first time I saw this. From what I understand this was based on several separate news articles. Heline was right you are way cool! I'm subscribing!✌
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Edit. Ren is pure 💎
P.s Like Nigtwish, no Song like another. This Man is 🎼Genius 🤘😊👍💙🇫🇮 all the Way
Authentic and raw. Live and one-take. My kind of music performance being a teen in the 70s. Love it and grateful to Ren captivating me like I once was that long ago. His live street performances with his band The big push is equally impressive. The mash ups of "I shot the sherif/Road to zion" and "Wade in water/Trouble so hard" are my favs.
Thx reacting. 👍
I was also a '70's teen, and recognize in Ren and The Big Push something I'd been longing for since those days. My tastes back then were (and still are) eclectic, and Ren is the definition of eclectic. The mashups you mentioned are excellent--and so is their Buddy Guy/Jimi Hendrix/Muddy Waters mashup: What Kind of Woman is This.
Others have said it already. It's the start of a journey when you enter the world of Ren, and the people he collaborates with. All are very talented and as yet I haven't heard a bad piece. I won't spoil it for you but you will feel so much more. Enjoy!
I'm not 100% sure you got the twist at the end, because you didn't discuss or reflect on it at all, or how it tied into the first two stories. Usually, the telltale sign that it went over someone's head is that they don't talk about it.
You have to say it for your critique to be complete,
Violet gave birth to twins Jenny and Screech(James), they grew up apart not knowing each other, Screech murdered his own sister.
I was looking to see if anyone said this. I was thinking the same thing. There's such a huge twist at the end that to not even acknowledge it makes me think she didn't notice it.
Course she didn't get it. Completely blank expression. If you get it you can't help but show a reaction.
Agree, how can someone draw her attention to this, as it’s so important ❤
Loose strings on a guitar can be bent/stretched during play to create what some people call "wrong notes" but they are on purpose for emotional state of mind effect this mystical bard can project his thoughts visually and emotionally directly into the mind.
Jenny's tale was based on a true event of a young prostitute being killed by a young hoodlum. The report ended with the reporter saying, "It's such a shame". Screech was born out of that story as well but Ren fleshed it out some. It was a few years later that Ren finished the dark tragedy off if his coupe de grass birthed from his own dark thoughts on the issue. Ren has said that the "It's such a shame" saying was part of the true story that stood out to him since it's almost a throw away line today. *I* believe he decided to take that line and enhance it so much and make it so dark with the idea of generational violence, above and beyond just the recurring violence in one persons life, so as to bring meaning back to the phrase, "It's such a shame".
Wow. 🙏🙏
“Coupe de grass” …. Autocorrect hates you too I see….glad it’s not just me 😂
@@whimsysmith2835 it also seems to hate French
It was based on VERY limited info in a brief newspaper story, not a tv news report. There was nothing about 'it's such a shame'. The young woman wasn't 14, nor was she a prostitute, like Jenny. The boy was arrested, not shot... Basically, all the brief report in the paper said, was that a 14 year old boy was arrested for the murder of a young woman, in a knife attack. Apart from the time and place, that was it.
Ren can be very convincing but people need to stop getting carried away ans spreading untrue nonsense and misinformation. If you don't know for certain, check first before posting.
@@Codex7777 OMG Karen much? I never mentioned 14 I said young for both.
I did mention prostitute as that is what I had heard but even that is not specific in the Tales, it's only hinted at.
I never said "Screech" was killed in the real story.
You do know that they call them "news paper reporters" right? I never specified TV or print.
I have heard Ren talk about the meaning of "It's such a shame" in live discussions. Even if it wasn't in the actual story that is PART of the basis of the story... how callous we have all become when we hear such stories.
Your comment would have been informative (mostly) had you left off your last insult. So, again, stop Karening as you added, at most, two pieces of information I did not have correct in my retelling and then became condescending and insulting. Please do better.
The Story reminded me of one of my favorite Musicals titled 'Blood Brothers' that I have been fortunate enough to see in theatres several times.
The Money game trilogy has to be next. 1, 2 & 3. It’s also an important social commentary and money game 3’s video is next level.
Ren Is Musics New
MESSIAH
Mm. Excellent reaction. I like your perspective a lot.
I'm so glad for you that your mom took your concerns seriously. I know a lot of women who had similar backgrounds, but whose mothers, well... at best turned a blind eye to what their boyfriends were doing, and at worst, basically pimped them out to them. My sister-in-law has such a tale. She's still working on healing, but it'll be a life-long journey.
My understanding is that Ren took inspiration for Jenny and Screech's tales from a newspaper article from around the time when he published those, in 2019. If you know that, then Violet's tale being set in 2005 makes a lot of sense, since the twins were 14. It also helps to know that in the UK, "Jenny" and "James" are the generic orphan's names, similar to "John" and "Jane" in the US. I'm sure most cultures have similar tropes.
This is a song that gets darker the more you think about it.
Like... Jenny. A "lady" in high-heeled shoes. Only at the end of Violet's tale we now know she was a fourteen-year-old girl. And yet she'd "walked this floor" (Brit for streets) about a thousand times before. What kind of fourteen-year-old girl is out late at night, looking like a lady, wearing high heels, walking her route for the thousandth time? Yeeeah... she didn't exactly have a great life either. Screech is just as much a victim as a villain. Richard is a victim, too. This is real life... the lines just aren't clear-cut like they are in most fiction.
Also, Screech's girlfriend being "busy" and his buddy Patrick not being home when he needed him? Not a coincidence. They were together at the time.
This set of stories was from an article he read about a prostitute that was stabbed. Sreeches tale came a year later and Violet was years after that. He has a background in folk festivals from his childhood and that is where his story telling abilities may have been fostered. You can hear it in these tales.... or I can.
He has many influences as far as I can tell but love almost everything I have heard from him, I've been delving deep into his playlist from the past and present.
Thank you mate totally appreciate your reaction. Thank you
Three extraordinary performance's. Anything live is always great.
I like a lot Rens pauses, great sensitivity. Now you're here, you should do How to be me x Chinchilla (live version) and also Chalk out lines (live performance) x Chinchilla too.
Enjoy this rabbit hole!! 🤘🏼🎶
I like to say his guitar playing is sweet and sour. It sounds the bad and the good.
so fun fact about this trilogy like Hi Ren the 3 videos are done live and 1 takes. violet as you guessed was the mother who died in 2005 when the 2 twins were born and then the twins were both 14 in the jenny and screech parts
Chalk Outlines. How To Be Me. Just part of the starter's kit. Ren's rabbit hole is just deep deep and filled to the brim. You may try domething from his band, The Big Push, covering I Shot The Sheriff.
21:23 ... that's going forward in time... from the previous going Back!
I find people who know music too often react to it as a chromatic scale without grasping the movement in time to counter the previous rewind.
Great reaction, it always gets my eyes wet, beautifully portraying a terrible reality, much blessings and thank you for this 🙏🐊❤️🦉👍
There was a newspaper article Ren read about two youths dying the same night, it was a young prostitute killed by another youth, and a responding officer killed the youth, and indeed he was shaken. It was his commanding officer that was quoted saying 'they were so young, it's such a shame.'
Violet's Tale was a way to bring the tales together and speak to intergenerational trauma, note the trauma response of the children mirror that of the parents, even if they didn't grow up with them. Given genetic predisposition and the same environment of trauma, a history repeating itself.
These were produced about a year apart and only a year ago did Ren compile them in a single release, which is needed as in the very worst YT Reaction video they did Violet's Tale FIRST, and you can imagine how it wrecked the experience for them and anyone unfortunate to watch it.
Please come back for more Ren! Youve only seen a fraction of his abilities!
Suggest Back on 74/Message in a Bottle or Fred Again Mashup!
Would love to hear your thoughts of his singing side! 😊
Thank you ❤ Elvann for your insightful Ren - The Tales of Jenny and Screech reaction!
You're very blessed to have a mother who always watched over and listened to and put you before anything else. So very many don't have that. 💓
Ren❤❤❤❤
You are so great, thank you mate.
Amazing reaction! What really stood out to me, though, was the idea that people would seriously argue with a harpist about whether strings are in tune.
You got a beautiful soul darling! Never change! Much love❤👍🏻
the guitar firing bullets was done in the 70s hit JailBreak by AC/DC , w jennings and Johnny Cash did it in 50s and 60s so he's in good company
Welcome to the world of Ren ❤His style of playing creates the illusion of out-of-tune notes...🤘😎
Raw is yet another instrument Ren perfected :)
I agree with you on the guitar tuning. I think it was tuned by ear, which in most cases is perfectly fine, especially in the context of these videos.
The guitar is a Cordoba Flamenco. Flamenco has a specific twang
@@Suburbanrust There were two different guitars used in this trilogy.
Beautiful reaction thankyou sweetheart
A lot of Rens videos are done live in one take. This would impossible if you had to start again everytime Ren made a mistake. Luckily, he doesn't care if he hits a few wrong notes, which is what gives the raw, emotional feeling to his music
It’s the imperfections that make it perfect!
he is the Broken Bard
I’m not sure if you got the ending or if that’s already been mentioned, but Violet was Jenny & Screech’s mother. They were twins who didn’t know each other as they were raised separately in the same city, orphaned because their mother was killed by their father, who surely ended up in prison. It’s definitely a commentary on generational violence (Jenny had the characteristics of her mother, Screech of his father) and all came to the same or similar end tragic end.
She didn’t get it.
The further you dig into the lyrics the more the connections and layers you can find interwoven to the 3 tales! Jenny is walking the streets late at night, with rosy cheeks and high heels shoes, just like she's done a thousand times before trying to find somewhere to sleep....a prostitute at 14 years old! Her first reaction at being confronted is to freeze up, just like Violet (her mother) did all her life. Screech on the other hand is loud and egotistical and mean, just like Stevie (his dad) was. Screech panics when his friend Patrick isn't home and calls his girlfriend and goes off on her on the phone when she says she's busy (busy with Patrick maybe?) and then attacks the cops. The first 2 tales were written in 2019 so when Ren "rewinds the hands of time to tell Violet's tale" its 14 years earlier.....in London city in 2005 when the twins, Jenny and Screech, were born to Violet the night she died. We can then assume that Stevie went to prison for killing Violet and the twins were separated at birth until Screech unknowingly meets and kills his own sister while mugging her 14 years later! Masterful well thought out storytelling!
She was not a prostitute.....listen to the lyrics abit closer...."she was heading back home to sleep" and the only mention of Highs Heels is the line "she stayed as still as a statue in High Heeled shoes" implies the statue having to stay still not jenny wearing High Heels and screechs line "I will slice the rosy from your cheeks"....seems youve put a few separate lines together and assumed something that is not implied at all in the tale.
@@stubyles1654 Considering the fact that the inspiration is from a young hoodlum killing a prostitute, I think they are correct in their assessment of Jenny. Not sure where you see anything that conflicts with that.
@@somerando1073 I see and hear it in the lyrics you idiot ! And know it from the factual story !! The prostitute was not 14 years old and the boy that killed her was but was not killed by police....nowhere in jenny's tale does it imply she was a prostitute....and she WAS on her way back home to sleep !! So your full of shit in your first comment !!
Especially in Hi Ren. One should not expect perfect guitar works in an highly imperfect head space. In fact the guitar play weaves with his voice in telling the story.
Ren does use a lot of off chords to add to the feel of the music. It is on purpose. The nylon strings also sound a little different from a standard acoustic, but I'm sure you know that. :)
You might also notice how he uses the acoustics of the room he is in to add dimension to the sound.
Ahhh that look when a new listener is futiley trying to process the ending, whether they got the reveal at the end or not.
Jenny's Tale was inspired by a news story... the other 2 were amalgamations of non-specific related topics.
Yes is live one take each of the tales. Ren's Hi Ren was also a live one take (multiple cameras} performance. Ren does a lot of one take raw art. Which for me is amazing and wonderful in this age of everything over processed and packaged. he truly is a modern day bard for our times. Bard core! A modern day Shakespeare!
My favourite thing about watching reactions to this trilogy is the inevitable identical speechless reaction to the final bombshell.
Hes a genius...thanks great reaction
Great reaction, I'm glad I found your channel ❤
Afaik, Ren read the the first story in the newspaper (this is the part based on real life) and made it Jenny's tale. Then his genius mind told him two other parts :)
The story has layers, you'll find them when you watch it again and again.
Let me just reveal one detail for you: @14:45 = rewinding, story goes back in time, @21:07 = fast forward, we'll back in 2005 :)
Nearly correct. He doesn't fast forward like you think. The scale instead takes us back to the start of Jenny's tale in the hospital.
The story of her brutal abuse just before the chromatic scale is also in 2005.
Jenny's story is an evolving time line of her life up until the point of her death. It therefore doesn't need a fast forward.
Welcome aboard! 🤓. And thanks for the info!
@@rickb.4168 You meant to say Violet, not Jenny... It is a fast forward, just a very short one, from being beaten up in her bedroom to where the song started in the hospital.
@@somerando1073 Well explained my friend, some of the comments can be off the mark so it's ok to clarify.
Ren is the king of “heavy themes” 😊 so good❤
Very nice. I'll check you out more.
One take...epic.
At 15:15 ... i Absolutely Love your take on that! One could also see it as... Knowing the Darkness of what hes about to sing about.... he had to "Release" himself... to let go... to perform what hes about to!!!
He is a bard.... like Dandelion (Jaskier) in the Witcher series
Your smile at 12:38 gives you away!
Most people hear it... dont really think about it!
You got it though! 😊
I think Chalk Outlines (video) might be a good next listen based on your melody preferences
WOW!!! You are the FIRST reactor I've heard that has mentioned the de-tuning of the guitar work!! Elizabeth (Charismatic Voice) alludes to it, but she doesn't say it directly like you did. I'm impressed! It was one of my first impressions with "Hi Ren." My theory (after listening infinity times) is that the guitar is TOTALLY in tune, or it would ALWAYS be out of tune a bit. Usually, he's right on the money, and perfectly in tune and with perfect timing. I think he is skilled enough to INTENTIONALLY detune some of his progressions. It's for effect, or impact. I suspect there isn't much he does by 'accident.' His genius plans it and guides, with the exception of some of his completely "in the moment" ad libs. Okay, for this song, your reaction is a two-fer. First time hearing you, AND the first time hearing this piece. I have listened to 'Hi Ren' around infinity times... for some reason your thumbnail grabbed me a few minutes ago after listening to yet another reaction to that piece. This piece is ALSO incredible. I'm not surprised by that, but I AM a bit stunned. His intensity is even greater here than in Hi Ren!
Everything is intentional with ren all meticulously planed
At 19:30... Rens specialty kicking in! Creating conversations!
Money game part 1 is pretty awesome
“It’s such a shame” was what the police statement finished with from the crime this is based on 😢
one take, yes
Ren is a Master at Combining all art forms to support his stories. From Location and Video Directing Worthy of Tarantino or Spielberg, to Lyrics Shakespeare would have been Proud to have Written, To an Emotional Performance on par with Marlon Brando or Morgan Freeman and the Musical Prowess of Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton and the Vocal Chops of Robert Plant or M&M! He can reach right through the Camera and Grab the Soul of his Audience and hold it in the Palm of his Hand! Ren really does have it all!
A modern day minstrel!
Money games trilogy is must to react to.... Great reaction from your lovely self, but if I'm being honest., I think that you didn't clock that jenny and screech were brother and sister, but its no drama though and I liked and subscribed.
so also knife crime in london has been on the increase especially in the youth and domestic violence sad to say is also quite high aswell
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More Ren.... as Halloween is coming soon... i Highly Recommend his "Children of the Moon" video!!!! Lol!!!!
You need to do the Ren x Chinchilla collabs. Chalk outlines is more polished, but How To Be Me is darker and (to me) more emotional.
Or do some stuff from his busking band "The Big Push"... much more fun, rather than introspective.
I recorded Chalk Outlines, and plan or recording “How to be me” as well after my trip to Canada! 🤓 coming up!
Here is a playlist of some of his best songs ruclips.net/p/PLO7p2lUmDrp8pKMe9TjL3F65SMiiNP8Ph&si=U9fKXoX-ihZcm63P
Ren has hugely broad influences I think - to me this is a 3-act Shakespearean play, a human tragedy glued together with the tragic irony of the ending plot twist(some people don’t get it the first time, nbd).
The delivery, the roving story telling minstrel, sometimes talking directly to his audience, is reminiscent to me of those medieval entertainers.
I can’t imagine either of those things are accidental. Neither is the almost baroque guitar.
It’s brilliant and the social message is crushing.
Another Ren winner.
Great thoughts..try " Chalk Outlines " ( Must be live ) and " How to be Me "
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Check out his street busking with his band The Big push
The guitar is in tune
It was a light bulb moment for me... "london city, far from pretty 2005" and the year that jenny's tale was released was 2019... We're told that screech is 14... The clues were there...
The tales are Rens masterpiece I’ve done a breakdown of all the main characters with my theories about how they all fit together on my YT but not all his music is as emotional as Hi Ren and the Tales you should look at some of his more upbeat stuff like “bitter sweet symphony “ a rework of The Verve’s song of the same name ,“ money game Pt2” is a fantastic lyric video or “ Genesis” it has such a good hook to it
The decending chromatic scale is signifying fast forwarding in time back to current day, appsoed to the ascending chromatic scale at the start of the song signifying rewinding time into the past.
Ohhh actually! I didn’t make that connection at first but wow! I’ll have to watch it again!!
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You were very lucky to have a mother that protected you above all else when it came to her love life. I wasn't so lucky in my experience. My mother hooked up with a guy in my early childhood and he despised me immensely. I was beaten mercilessly behind closed doors and without prejudice for my entire childhood while she was with him, which lasted for about 8 years. He used to lock me in the garage and take out his anger and frustrations on me without mercy, I used to plead with him to stop and that I was sorry for whatever he was going through but that used to make him even more angrier and it elevated his aggression towards me to the point where he beat me unconscious. I never did know why he hated me so much, after all I was just a child of 8 at the time when my mother first met him but it didn't matter what I did I was never good enough. That man broke me into a thousand pieces, and I have been broken all my life because of the hell he put me through.
That’s so horrible 😢. I’m so so sorry you had to live through that. I really hope you manage to find some peace within you. 🫂💜
nice reaction! hugs all around welcome! can i suggest Chalk outlines live and How to be me live by ren x chinchilla? welcome to this wonderful rabbit hole!
If you’ve ever played a guitar outside in the cold, you know, it’s almost impossible to keep it in tune.
Heh, people getting offended by Ren's guitar not always being in perfect tune are goofballs. Don't worry about 'em. He's outside, at night, in what looks to be winter or another cool part of the year. Anyone who's ever so much as _touched_ a musical instrument would know that it's practically impossible for it to be in tune in those conditions, and if it was, it wouldn't be by the end of the song.
I actually really like that it's an instrument with chips and scratches. It's _real,_ the tool of a working musician, not a museum piece. Yeah, it's not perfect, in looks or sound, but it's _real._ It's authentic. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Great heart felt reaction. ❤ I would recommend you react to him playing with his band The Big Push playing on the streets. They mash up I shot the sheriff, road to Zion and Hip Hop it’s great to see him playing to the people.
Wishing you every success with your channel too