INCREASE MID BASS! How to Sound Deaden Like a Pro - CarAudioFabrication
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2014
- In order to get the most out of our front speakers we need to take some steps installing sound deadening, and do it properly. This video will show you how you can improve your mid bass by making your door into more of a cavity simulating a subwoofer enclosure and how to use CLD MLV and CCF .
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It looks amazing and amazingly expensive at the same time.
Yeah totally lol
yeah....i would just get a subwoofer instead lol.
Best comment I had read. PEOPLE TAKE NOTE...!!
I agree!
quella specie di chiave che utilizzi per poi fissare alla lamiera come si chiama ?
When you said: I’m a perfectionist and started using the correct tools to make the template...you sold me brother!
I’m a huge fan of your work now. Hooyah!!!
This is hands down the best how to video out there for this process. It seems like common sense but few people realize even sound dampening takes planning. Good job Mark!
Wow, a lot has changed in 8 years. Although this video is still applicable today, your delivery of the information and the production of your newer videos show how hard you have worked on craft. And I'm not talking about just the technical side, you have really become a professional that I have turned too many times when I've got questions. Thanks for all you do Mark!
The video was very helpful. It's tough to find tutorials that show this side of car audio at all, yet alone doing it very well. I'll definitely be attempting this process in the future with this video as a reference. Thank you.
John Koetter Thanks for watching, glad that you enjoyed it, be sure to stay tuned in for more!
awesome work man, very few people would share their experience like yourself, greatly appreciated and keep up the good work!!!
Wow this was very impressive. You can always see when someone knows what they are doing and does quality work
Thanks a ton! Was thinking at work today that I needed to do something about my door speakers and here you are again with some great info. I appreciate all the vids you have posted, keep up the awesome work!
It's nice to see someone actually take that time and professionalism into installing sound deadener! I myself am OCD and take it to the extreme of neatness as u did, were I see people who think they do great work but no where near that level. Awesome video!!!
jarhead0754 I wish the panel didn't already have sound deadener on it, then it would have been even more clean! Thanks for watching.
Taking pride in your work is not OCD..
Getting things done right is not ocd, i used to think i had it then i relized i just do things right
Wow!! You did a great job. You addressed everything. I wonder what it sounded like before compared to what it sounded like afterwards. I bet it was,a night and day difference. Keep the great videos coming.
I usually find random install videos etc annoying to watch for some reason, but you're pretty good. I like how you're not trying to be funny like everyone seems to think they need to be, and you speak very clearly, in an easy to follow way
In my opinion this is one of your best videos. They're all great but this was the most professional door panel I've seen
We agree with you, Second Skin For The Win!!!!
Awesome video. Very rare that anyone does work to this high a standard, and even more rare to watch it being done. I've actually done almost this exact procedure on several cars and have always been too picky about my installs to let anyone else touch them. A little more age and several back surgeries will likely keep me from taking my future systems to these lengths again, but it's great to see a real installer that I'd actually trust with my car. Bravo, sir! You've gained a fan!
TheOtts1 you took the words right out of my mouth! Excellent job
His attention to detail was great, when he took some tough up paint to cover the exposed metal on the drill holes, I was asking myself what stereo shop installer would take the time to do that?
How’s your age and back surgeries going?
Mark, you're amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and the presentation is so well done. It makes it easy for us to follow along at home.
Your videos are the most informative I have found, and I have done a lot of searching. Thank you for sharing! !
Glad to see you're still makin vids. Keep up the good work, love it!
Nice job Mark, it's nice to see someone who takes pride in their work as you do, that is something that is hard to find these days. Awesome job on the video as well. Thanks for taking the time to teach us this cool trick.
Tim datoolman Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it, do me a favor and slam that like button and share with those who may be interested in learning this as well!
CarAudioFabrication Already "liked" the video and subed a month or so ago. Have a great day.
Insane over kill.. my kinda of mod.. thumbs up
I've done exactly this to my e46 doors. First I cut a hole in the metal behind where the speaker will sit on its mdf baffle then i fully covered the outer skin with Silent Coat and egg box foam behind the speaker.
I then 'fabricated' a panel to fill the gap using clear 3mm PVC, it doesn't look anywhere near as pro as here but it does work. I covered it front and back with Silent Coat and used self tapping screws to attach it to the door, I used 6mm foam and tape around the edge to seal them and it seems to work fine.
After getting everything back together and working I was properly amazed at how much the sound quality had improved, particularly the midbass, for an e46 without building expensive fibreglass pods it really kicks, there is a real genuine punch to the sound.
One thing I wasn't expecting is that I found I didn't need to turn the volume up as loud as before when listening, it's strange because I haven't (yet) treated any of the other panels. I've done the boot but that was before and other than stopping the rattles I didn't notice any difference in sound like treating the doors made.
It's a lot of fun this car audio lark but it can get wildly out of control I've observed if you have the money.
The only problem now is that I need to finish up my new sub box to match the new improved sounds.
This one of my Favorite Videos I have been in Car for a while but I took a really long break lol
I love the outside of the box thinking...
Its been a week and I have finally got everthing installed :D! Did everything you did mark to my doors and MY GOD I CAN DEF HEAR THE MIDBASS ALOT MORE!!
Going to order more material to dampen my rear doors! Thanks for the upload :)
Lucky you, you might have a garage to install all those stuff.. i live in a shared neighborhood where i park my car outside and everyone's passing by
@@niels2029 And?
Having used a variety of different sound deadeners, I to am sold on Second Skin. I find that I get better results using a rubber J-Roller than a wooden roller. To each his own.
+Anthony Guy Also, I hot glue my plastic tabs in so they don't vibrate. It's a cheap way out.
Coming into this 9 years after posting. 9 years ago, I was very into car audio, and I probably had this in my feed back then. I've been out of the game for quite a while & Im getting back into the hobby. This video is still applicable & very informative! Love how you explain everything!
Same here brother!! Just got a 2014 explorer with low miles I'm about to go all out on lol, first vehicle I've owned that's able to run a serious system. What are your build plans?
you guys just crush this stuff. make it look so easy. nice work with all of these videos!
Man, this guy is really good.
Thank you! Appreciate that.
and a total hottie! dude is beautiful!
If I got into an accident after doing all of this I'd go to prison for murdering the person who hit me
This/100
This is why I still have a bulk pack of Dynamat in my garage. This car isn’t sponge worthy
It happened to me a month ago
I bet you ain't lying either
jtdecker1 how many years they hit you with?
Definitely the most professional car audio channel on the internet. although it’s extremely expensive to do these install with proper tools but it’s a great guideline. Keep it up cause I’m hooked “pun intended”
The attention to detail and amount of information provided is excellent. Thank you very much for sharing!
My hopes crushed that's just one door!! I'll just add second skin behind each speaker... Nice work man and patience!!
That door must close like an F***in Vault door haha
gspunk29 BOOM! It does sound solid :) Haha
My last car had a lot of deadener on the doors. If I was parked pointed down hill, the girl in the passenger seat would always get yanked out of the car as she tried to hold onto the door lol
Might lose time on a 1/4 mile race with all that dead weight.
@@JERRYR708 idk anyone who activity drags race with a car that has subwoofers in it
@@mrpotat680 Street racers who like sound systems in their cars. If you spend thousands on performance engine parts, yer not gonna want to drive around with a factory radio.
Wow. Your knowledge and technical skills are first class! Great video!
This is what a pro looks like! You are on another level man! Beautiful work!
my dude that's a HELL of a job well done. but I'll stick with foam and tape for now haha. enjoyed the video very much!
Totally pro damn nice I learned a lot,thanks!
+savagetdk Thanks for watching!
Man . I love you're video's. you're always one step ahead and have the smartest, best, ideas design's, and looks thanks
I'm glad I found your channel keep up the Great Work
This is one of the first channels I ever subscribed to and I still go back in time to learn stuff!!
Great video, very informative and edited nicely. A before and after in-car DB test would had been interesting. Keep them coming !
Hey CarAudioFabrication (Matt)
This is AMAZING! You're videos have inspired me to take my install to the next level.
Did you find the Second Skin Luxury Liner Pro - 9 Square Feet single sheet was enough to do both doors? I'm only doing my front doors with this setup. I want to make sure cause shipping is expensive for me and don't want to have to re-order.
Always my favorite topic ! So many installers and Shops doesn't offer or carry sound deadening
Once again, a well done and informative video. Thank you for making these.
Wish I had a bunch of $$$ to just turn you loose on my car. You do amazing work.
Learn how to do it yourself....
Jay MaC read his comment... even if he knew he said he doesn’t have the money
There's always an alternative that works just as good!
@@hotwheels1838 wonder how another product would work,say for example ice and water shield use on shingle roofs between wood and shingles..hell of alot cheaper
@@basicdr He doesn't say anything about knowing or not knowing how to DIY. Just says he wishes he had cash to pay for a job like this ( turn him loose ) like, money would be no object, if he had it.
How to sound deaden your car:
Step 1: Get someone else to do it.
$$$
I did this once to a Nissan Rogue. Took me two days just to do the roof and two front doors. It really made a difference but I’m never doing it again.
@@mackd7141
Yes.
Buytl based sound deadener
Double sided mass loaded vinyl.
Single sided foam deadener.
$300 easily.
Yea, i agree but i watched it all. Thats a lot of work.
390 dollars after in each door I'm sure it sounds amazing ...
Amazing. So much work and so well executed. You rock.
I am glad that a Golf IV door does not have these "80s" vape membranes but instead is sealed with a metal sheet and saves a lot of work
thanks for the vídeos!! keep on rocking!!! cheers from Brazil !!
Hey Mark awesome work. this has def inspired me to follow your tutorial. Do you know where we can get that Green tesa tape
Link to all the materials used is in the video description.
Craftsmanship!
Nice werk! I used to work as a pro installer, and I actually learned some things watching this video!
Impressive attention to detail and clean workmanship. Nicely done.
You are the God of the sound my friend! You are genius! I'm your bigest fan!! Thanks for sharing your experiences and teaching us to solve this kind of problems!!!
Felipe de Sousa Haha I am far from as good as some guys are, but I am doing my best to learn a ton and share my knowledge with you guys, any help you can give me to share this video with others on the web is a big help!
Hey i'm a Fan too :P
Seems like more than you would ever need... almost felt like guy was just trying to sale me a crap ton of this company's products.
Rick Stalker yeah no this actually makes a difference. But it really does depend on your hearing sensitivity and love of quality sound. Some people run straight pipes for exhaust and strip interior, some people do the opposite. Personal goals and preference.
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White Devil
Roll your own and save 70% on retail cables.
Awesome video. Great attention to detail and nothing wrong with being a perfectionist. I am sure there was a noticeable difference in sound quality.
The depth of the install is insane!
Might have been more effective to use a decibel meter and recorded decibels during transit and then again after you applied sound deadening to see how much quieter the cabin really is. And an oscilloscope to get your frequency response before and total harmonic distortion measurement before and after that way you've got scientific evidence of how good this stuff is and mid bass/harmonic improvements... BTW I'm not hating (I hit the like button) really enjoyed the video just some constructive criticism you've got great construction skills
mdove89 I am working on collecting some of the data collecting instruments you mention. But as you are well aware they cost $. This is why I need the support through my Patreon page, so that I can pick up things like this and help others learn more. For now I have to rely upon my ear and the noticeable improvements.
That was insane ! I need you to deaden my Tahoe ... Lol
trainwreck60 Thank you!
seriously good work!, i can now follow your guide when doing my own car!, thanks and keep up the good work!
Quite possibly the best door sound deadening video I've seen to date. That tape trick is quite clever
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE GUY THATS GOING TO CHANGE THE GLASS IF IT BRAKES LOL
haha, he would prob charge double
What about the guy who does paintless dent repairs
so, this stuff is really heavy. if I'm going for low weight but still decent sound, where should I compromise?
Just use a smaller proportion of everything and focus mainly on the area near the speaker, you won't get as good of results though, always a compromise...
try a foam baffle from parts express
CarAudioFabrication
to block sound you need dense, thin (very heavy) material so there's no way around it. To dissipate, adsorb or muffle sound you can just use acoustic foam which is light.
ehh my civic is like open box.....i listen music outside like im in the car.....still dont want to add so much weight
You're THE BEST on RUclips! Absolutely!
Dang... this is hardcore. Thanks for posting. This video is gold.
how much did that job cost the customer
The cost of the car
The customer is the producer of all these materials - about 10k
Took a loan on the house
Then you get in to an car accident .. ALL YOUR HARD WORK TOTALLED
I was thinking about this today. But I also realized my audio system is worth more than my car 😂😂😂
This is the right way to do it. Nice work man.
I just watched this video and Ive been looking for some sound deadening stuff but also some ideas and doing it myself. Thanks alot for the vid.
Video should be called, how to add 300 pounds to each door.
EklekTek haha almost spat my breakfast out, good one mate 😂👍
Lol yep
Yeah haha - how to slow down your ride but sound mint as you do
Yeah, I was thinking that exact same thing and how to offset it, swap out my small block for a big block, the increased torque will help and it looks like my girlfriend is going to have to go, that would lose me enough weight to compensate for the sound deadening and the big block! :)
and also, how to cost yourself more gas by adding that weight...
This guy does fantastic work, but 99% of us can't afford to spend $300 per door just on tape and foam. Anyone ever just use duct tape or something similar to seal the holes? I would think that could improve midbass a tad.
+brown55061
I did a cheap door seal on my work vehicle, basically mdf/plywood over the holes, i didnt bother using a router and making the edges nice as it is never seen, function over form! You can also make it a little more waterproof with some varnish if you want.
Instead of the damplifier, i used roofing flashing tape which a bitumen or butyl based adhesive tape that adds mass to the panels which is cheap from a diy store, and you can put on double thickness if you like. I used i to cover all the small holes in the panel with it, and line the inner door as much as you can. Basically seal all the holes and add weight. I also used some egg carton foam i had from packaging and glues it in the inner door behind the speaker, and made sure i had a ring of flashing tape behind the speaker mounting hole to stop it vibrating against the door panl and to create an air tight seal.
I wouldnt bother with the mass loaded vinyl as it looks pretty difficult to put the door card back on. You basically want to seal the speaker so the back side is in a sealed enclosure with the wood and tape, and the sealed enclosure increases bass. Adding weight through the tape stops the panels vibrating, and you can address and rattles like they do on the clips and cables with some tape. The other thing i did was make speaker rings for mounting the speakers from the mdf, so my costs were low as it was some mdf and flashing tape. Hope this helps, it makes a huge difference, at a fraction of the cost. I think dust tape would be a little too flexible to create a good sealed enclosure, and wouldnt ass any weight to the panels. Plus you can use the flashing tape on floors, add sections to the roof to stop vibrations etc. The added bonus is on cheap doors, they now close with a reassuring thump like on a premium car.
+gledy2 Just watched a couple of other videos, if you are in the states people use stuff called peel and seal or even cheaper useal, get some!
I've used U-Seal on a car before and it helped. My problem now is both vehicles are black and I'm afraid the door panels will get too hot and that stuff will liquify and drip. I'll probably still try it and hope for the best. What I haven't figured out is how to get those nice foam rings for the front and rear of the speaker without buying actual speaker foam, which is probably 5X the price.
+brown55061 Just make sure you make it like a sealed enclosure for the back of the speaker and seal off the big gaps with mdf. If you want closed cell foam in the doors, try buying a camping mat, always cheap. Doubt it would be flexible enough to seal the speakers to the doorcards. Just keep your eyes open for packing foam in boxes, but my thoughts are it doesnt have much effect, the sound will filter through the speaker grille fine anyway, with not too much deflection down the door card. If you make mdf mounting rings, just adjust so the speaker sits close to the grille, the difference is made by sealing off the air between the front and back halves of the speaker, like a sub box would do.
There are less expensive dampening materials that can be found. They don't exactly work as well but they are still alternatives.
I’m getting old, I have always been into high end audio but with the circumstances of the last 10 years haven’t paid attention to what is new. I remember when about the best an average guy could do for a car stereo system was getting a great pair of 6 by 9s in the package tray and some 6 1/2 inch coaxial in the front doors, the a cassette tape deck with a power booster, lol! They sounded good for the time and I remember a pair of Altec Lansing 6 by 9s that came along that really bumped, it would rattle my rear view mirror but also the sheet metal in the 1970 Camaro, I tried tape at first but then I found some foam insulation panels that had a foil covering on one side, it was about an inch thick and I ended up using some calk to stick it to the bottom side of the package tray, I also covered the backside of the rear seat area and I was amazed at how much noise it eliminated. Later in the 90s when stereos were getting much better, they came out with the dynamat and it helped with the rattles but after watching this video, I am completely amazed at the level you have taken it to, that is a lot of work and it shows. I’ll bet the sound difference is incredible, I’m surprised that you were able to refit the door panel with the thickness of the materials you used. It would take a lot of patience to do that work and constantly running into different types of doors and their unique challenges. I know that the end result is worth the effort, just withthe elimination of road noise would make it worth it but for the acoustic improvement, it would make even just average equipment sound lots better. I’m sure having this done at a shop would be very expensive. I could see being asked how much did your system cost, and me answering, the head unit, amp and speakers were only $300 but the sound deafening and install was $3500. Worth it at half the price, if your going to do it go big or go home!
WOW, way to take it to the next level!!! most people would have just slapped some sound dampener overtop of where ever they could and called it "good enough"... and that makes a huge difference, but I can only imagine how amazing all that extra stuff will help... nice job mark, I look forward to seeing more vids of yours, I always learn something every time I watch one of your vids :)
what if the window breaks or stops working?
+Khyree Holmes That's why he made that removable plastic panel. All he'd need to do is remove the screws and he would have access.
Oh.
did you watch the fucking video?
trillriff-axegrinder Do you have fucking manners?
trillriff-axegrinder lmao good response, if it’s in the video, people shouldn’t be able to mindlessly criticize it
If car manufacturers could put this much effort in their cars we would not have to do this shit
they do, if you buy 90k cars :D
mian fazle razik for real, it amazes me that they make and sell cars that have rattling interior doors and shit when you turn the music up a little, it’s like WTF! Cheap ass mother fuckers charging us an arm and a leg for overpriced fucking trash!
@@McRemmyBaby Cars are made to be reliable means of transportation, not studios on wheels lol.
Oak lol
Oak yea but, my fucking door should not be rattling in a 2017 CHEVY LMAO
Great attention to detail. I’ll come back to this!
Brilliant workmanship
LOL talking about overkill.....
abd bach I just looked in the comments to look if somebody had this thought xD
Anything worth doing is worth doing right.
Anything worth doing is worth OVER doing ;) **
If you are a professional doing work for customers taking pride in your work and paying this level of attention to detail, You will have repeat customers. Most people now just throw crap together and call it good because no one will see it behind the door panels. I do woodworking this way because I know its being done the right way.
@@geerhed1109 Until they get the bill.
$$$
Great video like your attention to detail hard to find such video keep up the great work
Honestly you have made my life soo much easier brother. Cheers
Your door just got 10lbs heavier. Prepare for squeaky and droopy doors!
I hope you got the door panels back on. This is overkill. I'm sure as hell not gonna do all this.
i mean there is no room to criticise him, as whatever floats his boat as this is his hobby or craft. Avg Joe, it is very much overkill. not happy with the bass with my baffled Pioneer 6 1/2s but the highs and mids are alot better than stock obviously. its what a properly sealed non directional subwoofer solves and a turned eq...for which for me will be a later install.
Tuned EQ*
you are the best 🙌🏻 thank you for sharing this amazing ideas to us 💪🏻
Above and beyond! Fantastic! I'd like to try this to my car
Just be warned.. The extra weight in the car will increase fuel consumption :)
There is a trade off for everything, my goal isn't to make a fuel efficient car, it's to produce great sound.
+CarAudioFabrication I know, I'm not criticising what your goal is, or complaining about anything. I was just pointing out something. If someone adds 10lbs of deadening and other things to each door, maybe another 15/20lbs to the rear trunk area, maybe some on the roof, on the floor of the car, maybe some people want to go the bonnet too. It can add up to maybe 80-100lbs. And on top of that add in the subs and the amps, processors and much more. It could be the difference between $30 a week fuel or maybe even $60 a week. So, I'm not criticising, just sharing information. 😅👍
It's like driving around that fat friend that sings real good and gives killer road head. It's worth the extra gas money.
There is no way it double fuel cost. It might mean the difference between $30 a week and $33, maybe 36.
your driving habbits are way more variable than a little bit of added mass. did you ever put a human sized passenger in your car and notice a change in fuel economy? fuel economy is 90% aero/rolling resistance anyhow. trust the engineer
, totally awesome install.
this is exactly what I'm gonna do to all 4 doors on my new Nissan Frontier pro 4X.
Thank you for your effort put forth in this video and the links for the material .
These videos are awesome!!! thank you!
the amount of work you do makes me exhausted!
Awesome work man. Keep up the great work.
I am really happy you make these videos! They set the bar for some of the highest quality car audio builds out there.
BUT, sometimes I feel that they are so over the top that they are practically useless for the amount of effort I want to put into my project.
Then don't do it. Let your car be a rattle box, obviously your more interested in entertaining the general public than listening to music. Problem solved.
Great tip man. This is something that will even help good premium factory speakers that have the door skin cutouts.
Love your videos man always so helpful keep up the good work.
A lot of time and dedication, I learnt a so many things.
Awesome, thank you for an excellent video Mark. I'm sure this will drastically improve and help deaden the sound on my doors. Thanks!!!
Man you are doing it son! Keep up the good work man, its much appreciated!
You my friend are a true PERFECTIONIST!!! I know that OCD is on 100
%!!! I will admit and thank you for all the time you spend to share your knowledge and skills. I will be using ALOT of these techniques in my own personal builds. Thank you again and keep sharing the videos. You are the real MVP!!!
Excellent Video once again. Thank you for taking the time to do this!!!
onefastzx12r Thanks for watching! I appreciate it, help me out and pay it forward and spread the knowledge!
Love your time and attention to detail
Great channel!
Dude , you sir are the MAN ! I once I stalled over 80sqft of raamat and about 30 of ensolite in my 2005 Altima , roof doors rear deck and trunk , even removed the back bumper and did allot of work there(it really needed it ) 2005 Altima rattles like hell ! But man , your work far exceeds mine ! im looking to do this to my 2013 maxima , you my friend have really helped me out with all these videos. SUBSCRIBED !
+soopadoopa808 that raamat's gonna peel off :-( happened to mine. cant beat seckond skin, soundeadner showdown, dynamat, or hushmat.
Great video bro! I bet it sounds amazing!
i had covered my doors %100, but this clean install is another level. great job mate.
aysat Thanks! Appreciate the watch!
Fantastic video with good information. I loved the level of attention to detail displayed and look forward to more of the same! SUBSCRIBED!
Top notch job...seems like the kind of thing you can do in sections to cut down on cost and workload...front, then rear, then trunk, etc.