I'll never forgive them for Having Yuri Lowenthal as the Flash and not only wasting him on Injustice of all things, but wasting him within its own movie. Disgusting.
Yeah what they did to the flash was pretty messed up they did his so dirty even though he had one of the best redemption arcs and comic book history he play airport part in the Injustice universe that led to him being redeemed for all the stuff he has done and this is what they done to him that's wrong as hell
I love that this is a "what could have been" story rather than simply a retelling of the story. They managed to make something from Injustice that doesn't make Wonder Woman into your average Arkham resident.
The issue is with her is that her initial portrayal at the Jokers side is typical, villainous Harley. While the joker is using her, he is only really enabler as she had always wanted to act out and in some senses, was much better at it then the Joker was. Then, she is immediately written like Modern Harley who has the more tragic "abused lover" angle of having always been the victim. It shows a lack of understanding of who she was in that era of writing. I can work with that in the comics as the retcon to her history happened so long ago that she's actually really different to when she was just a villain. Issue is, she doesn't really go through any arc in Injustice. She starts off as a mass murdering bitch *and then* is immediately her more heroic self the moment Joker is out of the picture, without pause or difficulty. Almost as if most writers are just used to her being a semi heroic, more sympathetic character that they can't compared writing her in any other way. Honestly, I think DC has real difficulty in keeping it's villainesses, villainous. It's really odd to see someone like Punchline, who is a horrible woman who uses this to manipulate public perception, a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of the "actually they are much softer inside". I don't dislike Harley, but I do dislike how she's universally used as a good woman, even in universes (Injustice) where it really doesn't make much sense.
Honestly I do appreciate how Wonder Women wasn’t a complete psycho in the film(like in comics it felt a bit jarring to me and I know it’s an alternate world but still) and defended Batman’s team at the end. And she was even shocked at Superman for killing a bunch of teenagers. But yeah I enjoyed this movie
Tom Taylor straight-up admitted that he couldn't actually think of a way to turn a normal Diana into Regime!Diana, so he treated her as basically a straight-up evil counterpart from very early on. The Diana in the Injustice Movie feels more like the post-Infinite Crisis version of the character and how she would actually react to the things that happen here. Still a _bit_ dodgy (She's waaaaay too down with murder) but she steps back from the edge whereas the version in the comics and games gleefully skipped over it on her way to try and boink Clark.
She wasn't really a psycho in the comics. She was the one that got Superman to take off the Yellow Lantern Ring (and subsequently destroyed it), and there were several other things she did that were the opposite of being a psycho. It's just that she was loyal to the Regime because her first experience with men ever was her being screwed over by one, validating everything the Amazons said about not trusting them in her eyes.
That's kinda the point in alot of these else world stories she usually tends to encourage superman more in these kinds of stories. Like in the games she doesn't think she took advantage of superman but she most certainly did. And ultimately superman and her get past the point of no return.
@@ToaArcan wasnt steve trevor a nazi in the injustice universe or something? ive heard some reasons like that for why diana is a fuckin psycho in the comics
Also, Batman’s team is completely made up of reformed criminals in this movie (Catwoman, Harley, and Plastic Man). Really drives home the point about redemption
Exactly. It is also hilarious to see people completely miss it. The ones who hate Harvey, for instance. “No, dum dum, penalizing somebody who saved the world over old wrongdoings OF COURSE is counter-productive to their redemption”….. Some people never get the moral of the stories about redemption. Or weight redemption arbitrarily in years of public service - and even then, look backwards on those that did atone for their sins. People are bitter and vain. To me, redemption is internal. If a genocidal maniac like Plutonian changed internally overnight - so be it. They don’t have to prove anybody how exactly they must have suffered to change - they just did, and that is all that matters. Happy end.
@@kingol4801is it really redemption if there’s no penance or atonement? She didn’t even give a “sorry.” She’s only on Batman’s side cause Superman killed her love, She’s out for revenge.
@@Skullhawk13 Yes. It is. Redemption is not about self-afflicted suffering or vengeance. It is about change. Omni-man, for example. All things considered, he redeemed himself gracefully. And I would argue that if you don’t believe in his redemption, you don’t believe in redemption period. Redemption is not tipping the scales of the universe and undoing/trying to make up for everything bad one has done. It is about positive change. Otherwise, what you believe is not redemption - it is “checkbook” vengeance/proportional punishment. And redemption is definitely not that.
@@Skullhawk13 Harvey is not at all the same, and did plenty of heroics. As much as I love Omni-man, not everybody has to float through space with depressive soundtrack to “atone”. Atonement is about changing, in this case, moral alignment. They don’t necessarily have to change their personality or “act disturbed/mourning”.
I actually loved the ending of this movie because Superman sees the error of his ways and surrenders himself. And that it was one of Batman's contingency plans that defeated him, but it wasn't using one of Clark's obvious weaknesses like Kryptonite or red sun radiation. He used Clark's humanity. It really was a nice deviation. It was a very fitting ending to a Superman story.
Except, you know, it leaned into the idea that "A Superman who is evil is stronger than normal Superman because he doesn't hold back", ignoring the fact that Regime Superman is a bully who only ever fights people weaker than him and is thus not as experienced as the Superman we know.
@@lazaroskarmaniolas7410 You realize Regime Superman was just normal superman up until the point that Joker killed Lois, right? So he still has about the same experience.
If you look closely during the Bad guy bar, you can see Thawne in the bar. He was probably mourning Barry’s death. Thawne: It wasn’t me, Barry. It wasn’t. 😢
It seems like all these Justice League villains have something in common. Lex isn't happier if Superman dies. Joker is depressed if Batman dies. Thawne? He had the chance to kill Barry multiple times, but chooses not to.
@annavirag546 no one here is saying speedsters can't die, flash was an important character in the comics, killing him off that early and in that way was terrible. It would have been better and more logical to kill him off in the explosion of metropolis. But what do I know, I'm apparently just a "moron"
I think this movies could’ve been better split into two, with a time skip inbetween because not only could it make these characters feel more like themselves, I would’ve given time for more original injustice storylines; although I still thought they did amazing either way
Exactly what I've been saying. At least the first 2 years should've stayed as written from the comics, I mean they skipped SO many great moments (I.e. "Don't hurt my family anymore!!!") due to the bs scrunch time.
I think it should've be split into 5 seasons, each season adapting a year, with a sequel movie adapting injustice 2, similar to invincible. But this movie was trash.
At least Superman Red son is a good movie and they were faithful to the source material Injustice was a horrible movie that should have made it to animated series like invisible
@@savagedarksider hey it's your opinion and I respect that but you got to give Red Sun credit at least it adapted almost the whole graphic novel where's this movie could barely touch the whole story of injustice!
I honestly didn't hate the movie - I think what helps is I think of this as a separate story in a separate universe where things happened slightly differently. From the lens it just becomes a chain of events in which I simply see it as an interesting way to see how small changes can affect the outcome.
@habijjj that indeed was the worst part of the film, but tbf I've seen properties either kill off, or keep, heroes to fit their narrative in similar ways.
@@epictoe7179 that's true and honestly you're not entirely wrong about that however one thing I will give the movie credit over the first injustice game is that its ending at least had Injustice Superman actually meet pregnant Lois lane who's pregnant with my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and injustice superman gives up willingly which personally as a ending I was actually fine about that at least in my opinion.
Nah I definitely agree it was to bare bones and on top of that they kill the flash at the beginning in the dumbest way possible and he never gets mentioned again.
@Tevya Smolka but in the games that kind of the point superman became the one thing batman feared he'd become if he started killing. Superman is to far gone in the games and comics he's crossed the line so many times that he can never go back. That's why even when good superman beats him he just ignores everything he says and continues to be evil. I mean superman killed kids on multiple occasions and most of the time they were doing exactly what superman would tell them to do normally which is to stand up to bullies and tyrants.
Really liked your Injustice videos. I used to have a pretty strong hatred of the comics, mainly due to my exhaustion to "what if Superman but evil" stories and how this in particular is used in discourse, but listening you talk about the grounded feel that they have made me appreciate them a lot more than I did previously. Maybe I'll reread the comics myself at some point in the future.
Or that you can, but if you twist it in a way that actually somehow works. It's like getting into a car crash and somehow being able to parallel park the car perfectly.
As annoying as it was that they killed off the flash in this movie, I think it was kind of important to in order to raise the stakes of the plot. The flash is the heart of the justice league and without him the story has much more believability to me. It always bothered me that flash never did anything to try and warn superman about his actions in the original injustice storyline.
@@KizzyBit I don’t have a problem with the decision to kill the flash, but the way they did it is honestly just embarrassing. Like he genuinely should’ve had no issue escaping this trap, but he does because plot, and then he dies and it’s like he gets wiped from everyone’s memory for the rest of the film
I wish they had given my boy Captain Atom his moment of shine he had in the other version of this story. They subverted the trope of him always blowing up by just having him get oneshotted
This movie feels like it moves at 500 miles per hour. Every single scene feels like a bullet train, even the ones where lingering on the moment would actually benefit. There's no real space between dialogue or the things characters do. Instead of padding out its runtime, it feels like Injustice tries to get itself over with as quickly as possible, and in a really bad way.
I'm really glad you reviewed this movie in the way you did. While I was watching, I was pretty skeptical and annoyed with many of the changes that seemed to take place, and I thought I wasn't going to enjoy it as much as its source materials. Though as it neared the end, I realized more and more that they were going for a different theme, and not only that, but a completely different ending. Once I saw how they ended the movie, while I did still have some complaints, I understood it way more and enjoyed it as it's own thing because at that point I knew it was a different story. I don't think this movie is a masterpiece or anything but I do believe it gets way too much hate for what it is. Thanks for the video.
This video did help with coming to appreciate the film, I absolutely adore the first comic run so the film stunk. I still think it probably shouldve been three films, maybe two if you pushed it. Like Dark Knight its too much for a singular film. Plastic Man hard carries the film honestly
Mystery song of the day: Linda Ronstadt! My mom has always a big fan of hers, and she said she regularly used this particular song to wake up for her day in nursing school. Great video as always. Like CinemaWins often does to me, you gave me a new perspective on a movie I wasn't keen on (because I loved the comics so much more).
Something I feel the movie did way better than the comic is that they first take the time to make you care about the people in Metropolis before the explosion. In the comic, were only with the heroes. And as sad as it is, barely any time is spend on the residents of the city. But in the movie, they open with showing you all the people in the city being happy and going to work. And when Jokers trap springs, you see everyone looking at their approaching doom. Imo this makes the loss feel much more devastating.
I could never understand why they killed Flash off so early, then they replaced him with someone who wasn’t in the comics as well as the games like omGGG I was so pissed.
I still think that the comics are just WAY better done than the film itself, and to put it as a friendo of mine did, the film definitely needed to be extended, and probably would have done WAY better than it did, had it of been a mini series. Theres just so much important details that get glossed over that would have been incredible additions had there been more time to put focus on them. Like harley for example.
Hi Implicity Pretentious, I just wanted to say that your perspectives on superhero stories have shown me more depth to a lot of things than I thought. I'm mostly a Marvel guy but For me, you've made me more interested in DC and see some of their stories and characters in a new perspective. Thanks
I can handle interpretations that are different from the source material long as it keeps to the spirit of it. Changes like Wonder Woman's sudden face turn didn't set right, was an interesting twist having bad Superman win when it's usually the opposite, then the Lois who lost her Clark being the one to cause him to come to his senses was a nice touch. Given they didn't have enough time to make it like the game or comic where the alternate universe could step in and we know them.
Superman touching the alternate Lois lanes belly and crying is very powerful to me. It almost chokes me up. The art style does a very good job showing his pain. It truly wasn't fair to him.
Honestly I don't know how but you've made me actually feel a bit more favorable to the injustice movie. Flash has always been my favorite character so when they just stupidly killed him off in a stupid way, I felt enraged. I couldn't look at the movie in any favorable light after that scene so I missed a lot of the nuances. When is the Mercy video coming out?
Awesome video, thanks. Theres so many cool things in the comics and animated universe Id probably never know about without videos like these. Id love to read and watch them all, but I really dont have that much time. Maybe one day.
I feel like I'm one of the few people who actually really like this movie for what it is rather than what it was supposed to imitate based solely on the title alone. This ending where Superman starts his path of redemption feels much more natural for the character. The main earth Superman likely wouldn't have descended as far as this Superman did, but I don't like how Injustice (game/comic) Superman just didn't hold back. Sure, he had time to steel himself and lose his humanity, but Clark is such a fundamentally good man that it's hard for me to believe that he wouldn't see the error of his ways eventually. Sure, this movie makes quite a few mistakes, but its core theme and characterization of Supes makes it a worthy watch imo.
I wished they made parts. Like the comics and game did. Not everything at once. That is one reason why everything but the film was successful in my eyes
I think the film was design to get to the same path but condensed and altered. Unless they planned to issue an entire series I doubt it they would have the time to hash out every step as to how superman went deep into dictator mode.
The music mixing in this video was all over the place. The only video you uploaded that's like this. I enjoyed it nonetheless just thought I would mention it as some feedback.
Flash's death was absolute bull. Even if he did inhale the fear toxin and his worst fear was paralyzation, he still would have been able to react quick enough to both the gas and also the saw blades
Pretty much Injustice: The Movie is the story of a Superman who nearly crosses the line and forms the Regime, but Batman and the rest remind him of his humanity in order to bring him back from the brink. The Animated Injustice's theme of forgiveness and redemption permeates through the justice league, and most prominently Diana who unlike her Comic/Game Counterpart, isn't an effective sociopath. Honestly I say that the main problem with this movie is that it probably could've had a subtitle to designate that it was divergent in this manner from the main Injustice though, likely would've helped perception/response a bit
I do like that at the end, there is still a salvageable Justice League left between Batman, Wonder Woman, Mr. Terrific and Plastic Man. If Bruce can forgive Diana, which I think he will when he speaks about second chances. Plus a lot of characters walking out of the story keeps them alive for them to potentially return. The Green Lanterns coming back is inevitable and some of the magic heroes will realise its all over and return.
I recently read "Supreme Power," which I loved. It's another great take on the idea of the Justice League being shaped by much darker forces. It's a Squadron Supreme (Marvel's JL) story, and it's terrific. Gray and muddy morality all around. Hyperion doesn't go right from good to evil. It's more like good to it's complicated. Great script by JM Straczynski and gorgeous art by Frank, Sibal, and Sotomayor. Better than The Boys.
The second they decided to kill the Flash I took the film as it's own story that took influence from the comics. Which made me like it even more. The Injustice universe is pretty sad and I'm happy that this film ended on a more higher note. To say the least😅.
The real Injustice was how this movie turned out, although I did like the ending. But Ra's was in the comics. He has this private zoo filled with extint animals that Blue Beetle blew up by being an idiot.
I like how they kill Flash at the start. Who made this? Why is it now companies hate the original material and do their own things? They also got rid of Lex........... WHO WROTE THIS MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i dont hate that change, its not inherently bad, its just what they took away. The film is called injustice so you expect it to be injustice, but it cuts so many of the iconic moments from injustice
My favorite change is wonder woman. I know its been talked to death but shes just straight up evil and waited for an opportunity to turn clark evil in the comics/games. This movie makes her be like "ya its extreme but rooted in a good ideal" then talks sense into clark
I'll never forgive them for Having Yuri Lowenthal as the Flash and not only wasting him on Injustice of all things, but wasting him within its own movie. Disgusting.
You don't have Yuri as just a cameo and then just kill him and it sucks cuz flash is one of my favorite characters in Injustice
The Flash’s death here is disgustingly embarrassing
Yeah what they did to the flash was pretty messed up they did his so dirty even though he had one of the best redemption arcs and comic book history he play airport part in the Injustice universe that led to him being redeemed for all the stuff he has done and this is what they done to him that's wrong as hell
THAT WAS YURI?!?!??
@@ajwalswick4423 Ye. Hope he gets to play the Flash (Wally or Barry, but would prefer Wallly) in a good project one day
I love that this is a "what could have been" story rather than simply a retelling of the story. They managed to make something from Injustice that doesn't make Wonder Woman into your average Arkham resident.
Harley never apologizes once for assisting in the killing of millions in metropolis. She’s literally “I’m so quirky 🤪guys!” the entire film.
I honestly wouldnt mind if i went a decade without hearing mention of Harley Quinn she's so overused
The issue is with her is that her initial portrayal at the Jokers side is typical, villainous Harley. While the joker is using her, he is only really enabler as she had always wanted to act out and in some senses, was much better at it then the Joker was. Then, she is immediately written like Modern Harley who has the more tragic "abused lover" angle of having always been the victim. It shows a lack of understanding of who she was in that era of writing.
I can work with that in the comics as the retcon to her history happened so long ago that she's actually really different to when she was just a villain. Issue is, she doesn't really go through any arc in Injustice. She starts off as a mass murdering bitch *and then* is immediately her more heroic self the moment Joker is out of the picture, without pause or difficulty. Almost as if most writers are just used to her being a semi heroic, more sympathetic character that they can't compared writing her in any other way. Honestly, I think DC has real difficulty in keeping it's villainesses, villainous. It's really odd to see someone like Punchline, who is a horrible woman who uses this to manipulate public perception, a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of the "actually they are much softer inside".
I don't dislike Harley, but I do dislike how she's universally used as a good woman, even in universes (Injustice) where it really doesn't make much sense.
@@sweett3253 naw her animated show, well at least S1 is goated
Almost like you've never seen harley Quinn before
@@Heatlifer77 more like overrated
Honestly I do appreciate how Wonder Women wasn’t a complete psycho in the film(like in comics it felt a bit jarring to me and I know it’s an alternate world but still) and defended Batman’s team at the end. And she was even shocked at Superman for killing a bunch of teenagers. But yeah I enjoyed this movie
It's because in that universe Steve Trevor was a Nazi
Tom Taylor straight-up admitted that he couldn't actually think of a way to turn a normal Diana into Regime!Diana, so he treated her as basically a straight-up evil counterpart from very early on.
The Diana in the Injustice Movie feels more like the post-Infinite Crisis version of the character and how she would actually react to the things that happen here. Still a _bit_ dodgy (She's waaaaay too down with murder) but she steps back from the edge whereas the version in the comics and games gleefully skipped over it on her way to try and boink Clark.
She wasn't really a psycho in the comics. She was the one that got Superman to take off the Yellow Lantern Ring (and subsequently destroyed it), and there were several other things she did that were the opposite of being a psycho. It's just that she was loyal to the Regime because her first experience with men ever was her being screwed over by one, validating everything the Amazons said about not trusting them in her eyes.
That's kinda the point in alot of these else world stories she usually tends to encourage superman more in these kinds of stories. Like in the games she doesn't think she took advantage of superman but she most certainly did. And ultimately superman and her get past the point of no return.
@@ToaArcan wasnt steve trevor a nazi in the injustice universe or something? ive heard some reasons like that for why diana is a fuckin psycho in the comics
Also, Batman’s team is completely made up of reformed criminals in this movie (Catwoman, Harley, and Plastic Man). Really drives home the point about redemption
Exactly.
It is also hilarious to see people completely miss it.
The ones who hate Harvey, for instance.
“No, dum dum, penalizing somebody who saved the world over old wrongdoings OF COURSE is counter-productive to their redemption”…..
Some people never get the moral of the stories about redemption. Or weight redemption arbitrarily in years of public service - and even then, look backwards on those that did atone for their sins.
People are bitter and vain.
To me, redemption is internal. If a genocidal maniac like Plutonian changed internally overnight - so be it. They don’t have to prove anybody how exactly they must have suffered to change - they just did, and that is all that matters. Happy end.
@@kingol4801is it really redemption if there’s no penance or atonement? She didn’t even give a “sorry.” She’s only on Batman’s side cause Superman killed her love, She’s out for revenge.
@@Skullhawk13 Yes. It is.
Redemption is not about self-afflicted suffering or vengeance.
It is about change.
Omni-man, for example. All things considered, he redeemed himself gracefully.
And I would argue that if you don’t believe in his redemption, you don’t believe in redemption period.
Redemption is not tipping the scales of the universe and undoing/trying to make up for everything bad one has done. It is about positive change.
Otherwise, what you believe is not redemption - it is “checkbook” vengeance/proportional punishment. And redemption is definitely not that.
@@kingol4801 you completely sidestepped the fact she’s still exactly the same. Omniman also did leave earth and atone.
@@Skullhawk13 Harvey is not at all the same, and did plenty of heroics.
As much as I love Omni-man, not everybody has to float through space with depressive soundtrack to “atone”.
Atonement is about changing, in this case, moral alignment. They don’t necessarily have to change their personality or “act disturbed/mourning”.
I actually loved the ending of this movie because Superman sees the error of his ways and surrenders himself. And that it was one of Batman's contingency plans that defeated him, but it wasn't using one of Clark's obvious weaknesses like Kryptonite or red sun radiation. He used Clark's humanity.
It really was a nice deviation. It was a very fitting ending to a Superman story.
If you haven’t read “Red Son”, using Clark’s humanity is a theme there as well.
Except, you know, it leaned into the idea that "A Superman who is evil is stronger than normal Superman because he doesn't hold back", ignoring the fact that Regime Superman is a bully who only ever fights people weaker than him and is thus not as experienced as the Superman we know.
Unironically that’s an improvement of the comic for me
Everyone always focuses on the Super, and never on the Man, both parts have their own weaknesses
@@lazaroskarmaniolas7410 You realize Regime Superman was just normal superman up until the point that Joker killed Lois, right? So he still has about the same experience.
If you look closely during the Bad guy bar, you can see Thawne in the bar. He was probably mourning Barry’s death.
Thawne: It wasn’t me, Barry. It wasn’t. 😢
Good eye chief 😢😢
My man can change this by running faster than usual.
It seems like all these Justice League villains have something in common.
Lex isn't happier if Superman dies.
Joker is depressed if Batman dies.
Thawne? He had the chance to kill Barry multiple times, but chooses not to.
@@ccelite3782 my guy, reverse flash can’t kill flash because then he will cease to exist
@@Blazingamer. that's what present Thawne says, but future Thawne can easily go back in time and kill Barry
god i was pissed at how flash died
What? You mean you didn't like that the fastest man alive got killed by a jump scare?
People could say "but Scarecrow's fear toxin-"
But Flash's breathing works way different than a normal human
@annavirag546 no one here is saying speedsters can't die, flash was an important character in the comics, killing him off that early and in that way was terrible. It would have been better and more logical to kill him off in the explosion of metropolis.
But what do I know, I'm apparently just a "moron"
@anna Virág They can be killed, just not like that. It would be like drowning Aquaman
@annavirag546speedsters must’ve hit you in a deep place meat rider
I think this movies could’ve been better split into two, with a time skip inbetween because not only could it make these characters feel more like themselves, I would’ve given time for more original injustice storylines; although I still thought they did amazing either way
Exactly what I've been saying. At least the first 2 years should've stayed as written from the comics, I mean they skipped SO many great moments (I.e. "Don't hurt my family anymore!!!") due to the bs scrunch time.
I think it should've be split into 5 seasons, each season adapting a year, with a sequel movie adapting injustice 2, similar to invincible.
But this movie was trash.
Heck they could have been even better split into three
A show, or at least a trilogy of movies
@@kenjikune2565 but that wasnt what ther wher going for
Just like Red Son, it should have been A animated series.
I thought Red Sun was pretty good this movie though could have been better.
@@MarvelKnight-tw9hb I thought Red Son animated movie was bad.
At least Red Son was good (in my opinion anyway)
At least Superman Red son is a good movie and they were faithful to the source material Injustice was a horrible movie that should have made it to animated series like invisible
@@savagedarksider hey it's your opinion and I respect that but you got to give Red Sun credit at least it adapted almost the whole graphic novel where's this movie could barely touch the whole story of injustice!
The "I'm flattered but very married" scene was enough to justify this film to me.
I honestly didn't hate the movie - I think what helps is I think of this as a separate story in a separate universe where things happened slightly differently. From the lens it just becomes a chain of events in which I simply see it as an interesting way to see how small changes can affect the outcome.
I'd be ok with that if they didn't kill off the flash and then just not talk about him ever again
@habijjj that indeed was the worst part of the film, but tbf I've seen properties either kill off, or keep, heroes to fit their narrative in similar ways.
Wouldn't say different Universe, but possibly a different timeline
@CC Elite Could be either really haha hypertime vs multiverse
@@ccelite3782 did the director even explained the timeline?
The injustice animated movie had so much potential but man oh man they dropped the ball and try to cram in way to much.
Actually I felt the opposite, like it took out alot of important details and connected later stuff together.
@@epictoe7179 that's true and honestly you're not entirely wrong about that however one thing I will give the movie credit over the first injustice game is that its ending at least had Injustice Superman actually meet pregnant Lois lane who's pregnant with my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and injustice superman gives up willingly which personally as a ending I was actually fine about that at least in my opinion.
@@epictoe7179 Its both isn't it? In order to fit the run time, they lose a bunch of small but necessary details while rushing the main points
Nah I definitely agree it was to bare bones and on top of that they kill the flash at the beginning in the dumbest way possible and he never gets mentioned again.
@Tevya Smolka but in the games that kind of the point superman became the one thing batman feared he'd become if he started killing. Superman is to far gone in the games and comics he's crossed the line so many times that he can never go back. That's why even when good superman beats him he just ignores everything he says and continues to be evil. I mean superman killed kids on multiple occasions and most of the time they were doing exactly what superman would tell them to do normally which is to stand up to bullies and tyrants.
Really liked your Injustice videos. I used to have a pretty strong hatred of the comics, mainly due to my exhaustion to "what if Superman but evil" stories and how this in particular is used in discourse, but listening you talk about the grounded feel that they have made me appreciate them a lot more than I did previously. Maybe I'll reread the comics myself at some point in the future.
Glad you could enjoy it
Turns out you shouldn’t just condense five years of story into 78 minutes.
Or that you can, but if you twist it in a way that actually somehow works.
It's like getting into a car crash and somehow being able to parallel park the car perfectly.
As annoying as it was that they killed off the flash in this movie, I think it was kind of important to in order to raise the stakes of the plot. The flash is the heart of the justice league and without him the story has much more believability to me. It always bothered me that flash never did anything to try and warn superman about his actions in the original injustice storyline.
The way they killed him off is really stupid though
@@ninjafrog6966 yeah cant argue there
@@KizzyBit I don’t have a problem with the decision to kill the flash, but the way they did it is honestly just embarrassing. Like he genuinely should’ve had no issue escaping this trap, but he does because plot, and then he dies and it’s like he gets wiped from everyone’s memory for the rest of the film
The way Superman teared up when placing his hand on other world Lois’s belly touched me, I really have sympathy for Clark
Yes much better than the why he acts in the games I still love both injustice games but superman is such a asshole
I’ve got to say this lifted the whole mood of my day. Thank you.
I wish they had given my boy Captain Atom his moment of shine he had in the other version of this story. They subverted the trope of him always blowing up by just having him get oneshotted
ive never gone from tear in my eyes to snorting laughter as quick as i did at the end of this essay lol
This movie feels like it moves at 500 miles per hour. Every single scene feels like a bullet train, even the ones where lingering on the moment would actually benefit. There's no real space between dialogue or the things characters do. Instead of padding out its runtime, it feels like Injustice tries to get itself over with as quickly as possible, and in a really bad way.
I'm really glad you reviewed this movie in the way you did. While I was watching, I was pretty skeptical and annoyed with many of the changes that seemed to take place, and I thought I wasn't going to enjoy it as much as its source materials. Though as it neared the end, I realized more and more that they were going for a different theme, and not only that, but a completely different ending. Once I saw how they ended the movie, while I did still have some complaints, I understood it way more and enjoyed it as it's own thing because at that point I knew it was a different story. I don't think this movie is a masterpiece or anything but I do believe it gets way too much hate for what it is. Thanks for the video.
This video did help with coming to appreciate the film, I absolutely adore the first comic run so the film stunk.
I still think it probably shouldve been three films, maybe two if you pushed it. Like Dark Knight its too much for a singular film. Plastic Man hard carries the film honestly
Mystery song of the day: Linda Ronstadt! My mom has always a big fan of hers, and she said she regularly used this particular song to wake up for her day in nursing school.
Great video as always. Like CinemaWins often does to me, you gave me a new perspective on a movie I wasn't keen on (because I loved the comics so much more).
Something I feel the movie did way better than the comic is that they first take the time to make you care about the people in Metropolis before the explosion.
In the comic, were only with the heroes. And as sad as it is, barely any time is spend on the residents of the city. But in the movie, they open with showing you all the people in the city being happy and going to work. And when Jokers trap springs, you see everyone looking at their approaching doom.
Imo this makes the loss feel much more devastating.
Another great essay. Best channel I've found, great way to connect about the DCAU from my childhood. Thanks!
I could never understand why they killed Flash off so early, then they replaced him with someone who wasn’t in the comics as well as the games like omGGG I was so pissed.
The way you cut together some of the most emotional dialogue played over sad music makes me nostalgic for movies I've never even watched
Nearly shed a tear at your greatest thumbnail 😢. I’d never seen such beauty. Such art. Such emotion. This might as well go along with the Mona Lisa
Time to watch an awesome video
Edit: I've noticed for most of your most recent videos about Superman you use Now You Sail Away, I'm digging it
it should have been a series
so things could have been more fleshed out
Got to love the good Superman showing up at the end and the Robert J. Kral Superman Doomsday theme plays
I still think that the comics are just WAY better done than the film itself, and to put it as a friendo of mine did, the film definitely needed to be extended, and probably would have done WAY better than it did, had it of been a mini series. Theres just so much important details that get glossed over that would have been incredible additions had there been more time to put focus on them. Like harley for example.
I think this is the first time Ive seen someone speak POSITIVELY about this movie. Which is a nice breath of fresh air
Hi Implicity Pretentious, I just wanted to say that your perspectives on superhero stories have shown me more depth to a lot of things than I thought. I'm mostly a Marvel guy but For me, you've made me more interested in DC and see some of their stories and characters in a new perspective. Thanks
I thought the Justice Lords episode of the Justice league was an interesting take of an injustice adjacent story.
😂 Thank you for the very important reveal at the end. And the Plastic Man quote has got to be my favorite thing 😂😂
I can handle interpretations that are different from the source material long as it keeps to the spirit of it. Changes like Wonder Woman's sudden face turn didn't set right, was an interesting twist having bad Superman win when it's usually the opposite, then the Lois who lost her Clark being the one to cause him to come to his senses was a nice touch. Given they didn't have enough time to make it like the game or comic where the alternate universe could step in and we know them.
Injustice wonder women doesn't set right.in fact i feel the movie really fixed some of the problems with character motivation
Superman touching the alternate Lois lanes belly and crying is very powerful to me. It almost chokes me up. The art style does a very good job showing his pain. It truly wasn't fair to him.
"Every life was sacred to him, is it not to you?"
that line has no right to go as hard as it did
That thumbnail reveal is perfect for Jimmy here.
I gotta admit, you gave me a new appreciation for this. Just shows how good a RUclipsr you are. Thanks.
Honestly I don't know how but you've made me actually feel a bit more favorable to the injustice movie. Flash has always been my favorite character so when they just stupidly killed him off in a stupid way, I felt enraged. I couldn't look at the movie in any favorable light after that scene so I missed a lot of the nuances. When is the Mercy video coming out?
Every day you upload is a good day
This gave me a different perspective on the story. Ur doing gods work
This is one of the few movies that I’ve just noped out of after being 90% finished. This just straight up wasn’t what Injustice was about
Awesome video, thanks. Theres so many cool things in the comics and animated universe Id probably never know about without videos like these. Id love to read and watch them all, but I really dont have that much time. Maybe one day.
I believe Ras Al Ghul was in the Comics for after the events of Injustice 1 and was leading to Injustice 2, he was later killed by Gorilla Grudd.
Wasn’t he there for the part where Alfred is revived
Honestly, this should've been a TV Series. The Injustice storyline is HUGE, and they could've easily gotten multiple seasons out of it.
I feel like I'm one of the few people who actually really like this movie for what it is rather than what it was supposed to imitate based solely on the title alone. This ending where Superman starts his path of redemption feels much more natural for the character. The main earth Superman likely wouldn't have descended as far as this Superman did, but I don't like how Injustice (game/comic) Superman just didn't hold back. Sure, he had time to steel himself and lose his humanity, but Clark is such a fundamentally good man that it's hard for me to believe that he wouldn't see the error of his ways eventually. Sure, this movie makes quite a few mistakes, but its core theme and characterization of Supes makes it a worthy watch imo.
I can’t believe that thumbnail didn’t take you longer
This video has convinced me yo give this movie a try, thanks!
This is one of the cases where this needed to be a show or trilogy of movies.
Seriously how did wb believe they would fit all of that content in an 1 hour movie?
I wished they made parts. Like the comics and game did. Not everything at once. That is one reason why everything but the film was successful in my eyes
Thanks for another vid, love having these break up long work days.
I think the film was design to get to the same path but condensed and altered. Unless they planned to issue an entire series I doubt it they would have the time to hash out every step as to how superman went deep into dictator mode.
I like this vid I don't know why this gave me the feeling of nostalgia great video essay!
you highlighted the best i almost forgot about everything bad about the movie lol
Just wanna let you know you’re super underrated bro keep up the great work love the videos!
The music mixing in this video was all over the place. The only video you uploaded that's like this. I enjoyed it nonetheless just thought I would mention it as some feedback.
If I'm being honest, I'm not a fan of much of the injustice storyline, but you manage to make me appreciate it a lot more than I did before.
I just re watched Injustice a few days ago and holy crap was it depressing. Still a well made DC animated film but wow, so incredibly hard core sad.
Ngl, seeing The Atom disintegrate was something
i cried so much during this movie bc of watching all these characters i love like cyborg and the atom get killed
Flash's death was absolute bull. Even if he did inhale the fear toxin and his worst fear was paralyzation, he still would have been able to react quick enough to both the gas and also the saw blades
A combination of both messages would make a great story
A hero can fall from what they once were but can still rise back there
this movie was so good and also they changed so much still!
Really wished this would have been a series of movies instead of compressing it into one….it lost so much
Pretty much Injustice: The Movie is the story of a Superman who nearly crosses the line and forms the Regime, but Batman and the rest remind him of his humanity in order to bring him back from the brink.
The Animated Injustice's theme of forgiveness and redemption permeates through the justice league, and most prominently Diana who unlike her Comic/Game Counterpart, isn't an effective sociopath.
Honestly I say that the main problem with this movie is that it probably could've had a subtitle to designate that it was divergent in this manner from the main Injustice though, likely would've helped perception/response a bit
I love how flash just gets held in place, as if he can’t vibrate out
That intro gets me hyped every single time bro
I wish they had made a 2 part movie.
I’d love to see a Superman/Batman Apocalypse video ;)
This into song is amazing
That knuckle shading tho....
i love how the thumbnail is just us watching the movie lmao
all I remembered from this film was not liking the thick strokes to define the knuckles.
Unpopular opinion: Deathstroke, Red Hood, Dr Fate and Azrael wouldve looked epic asf in this animation style.
I do like that at the end, there is still a salvageable Justice League left between Batman, Wonder Woman, Mr. Terrific and Plastic Man. If Bruce can forgive Diana, which I think he will when he speaks about second chances.
Plus a lot of characters walking out of the story keeps them alive for them to potentially return. The Green Lanterns coming back is inevitable and some of the magic heroes will realise its all over and return.
The thumbnail at the end got me
this should've been an animated series
I hadn't thought of it this way. Nice video.
The family friendly part was just removing Shazam’s darkest scene from the comics/game
On the other hand the ending of this movie did almost make me cry
My favorite parts were Plastic Man and the black knuckle tattoos everyone had.
That fu**ing intro gets me every time 10/10
I recently read "Supreme Power," which I loved. It's another great take on the idea of the Justice League being shaped by much darker forces. It's a Squadron Supreme (Marvel's JL) story, and it's terrific. Gray and muddy morality all around. Hyperion doesn't go right from good to evil. It's more like good to it's complicated. Great script by JM Straczynski and gorgeous art by Frank, Sibal, and Sotomayor. Better than The Boys.
2:26 DANGGGG HAWK GIRL 😩😩😩
The thumbnail at the end was nice but everyone knows Batman has shark repellent in the belt
Fun lil detail: When its superman v superman time, the animators stuck in the ultimate move from the game in the fight
The second they decided to kill the Flash I took the film as it's own story that took influence from the comics. Which made me like it even more. The Injustice universe is pretty sad and I'm happy that this film ended on a more higher note. To say the least😅.
The real Injustice was how this movie turned out, although I did like the ending. But Ra's was in the comics. He has this private zoo filled with extint animals that Blue Beetle blew up by being an idiot.
I like how they kill Flash at the start.
Who made this?
Why is it now companies hate the original material and do their own things?
They also got rid of Lex...........
WHO WROTE THIS MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think u misspelt the title g, it’s ok tho bad things make me sad as well.
i dont hate that change, its not inherently bad, its just what they took away. The film is called injustice so you expect it to be injustice, but it cuts so many of the iconic moments from injustice
My favorite change is wonder woman. I know its been talked to death but shes just straight up evil and waited for an opportunity to turn clark evil in the comics/games. This movie makes her be like "ya its extreme but rooted in a good ideal" then talks sense into clark
Thawne: Without Barry, I have no future.
People are never satisfy.
You know you can watch all the cutscenes from injustice in a full movie on youtube? Its really good.