I really think about Barry most often, I mean when he resets a timeline and he will be the only one who will remember all the death, all the gore and everyone one of his friends die. And at the end everyone knows that he is the only one who can change things and alter the timeline back to normal, only that everyone else forgets but he remembers it.
he dosent remember when he creates a new timeline if that was the case he would have remembered the flashpoint that happend before that and created the franchise which he dosent. plus if he did remember they probaly would have brought it or at least referenced it in the justice society movie which they dont
@@NoSweatMan-_- yeah actually, but like he wasn’t really a focus but still I wanted to see more flash, John Stewart green lantern and cyborg in the dcamu
Cyborg did not kill Darkseid or trigon, he pulled them into a nother realm to which they could not escape. basiclly letting Darkseid and Trigon fight for eternity. that is why Trigon was so excited. thats why he was laughing as he pulled Darkseid into that portal.
That's exactly what it felt like. As if they can't/couldn't have multiple different versions at once. I hate that comics insist on just trashing everything instead of just saying this universe is having the book closed, maybe we'll come back maybe not but here's something new.
Especially when reign of the supermen leads directly into so many great comics events...they had all the ideas they could ask for right at the end of that movie.
@@gamestar6479 it's an annoying thing. It's why I struggle to enjoy most superhero movies or even action films. I just prefer a bit more realism to the threats presented and a bit less plot armor. Even if good wins I dont want to have full and undoubting confidence that they will pull out a W.
Superman comforting Raven after stopping her from committing suicide is quite possibly one of the greatest Superman moments in anything ever, a perfect example of how there will always be a shining light in the darkest of times. Helps that it's basically the animated version of almost the exact same moment from All-Star Superman.
You perfectly epitomized why I love this film, despite not vibing with the DCAMU beforehand. It really made you look back on the other films and appreciate what worked, bringing everything to an end that I don't think works in any other shared universe. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one...
This string of animated DC movies introduced me to characters I knew little to nothing about like Damian wayne and John Constantine. They became my favorites quickly. Having the whole universe wiped away at the end as if to say the last 10 years of movies never happened, really depressed the shit outta me. I wasn't right for like 2 days.
You have accomplished something, I don't know if it's what you've set out to achieve, but you've done it. You have reignited a love for DC and it's characters within me and presumably all those watching. You've most definitely had a part in me getting back in touch with a foolish optimism I'm grateful for. Your comments on Super man have allowed me to see how great a character he is, a man with morals. While I can't list everything you've showed us, and sometimes I may not get it immediately either, your videos are a wonderful thing and I love them to death. Keep up the good work.
I just want to give a shoutout to Constantine and the House of Mystery for being surprisingly perfect and appropriately being a short to properly match the story it tells. SPOILERS BELOW: It is a shockingly fitting conclusion for Constantine as a character. Where the man was sent a heaven surrounded by friends and even kids for him, but his mind is so insistent that there can be no happy endings for him, that everything is a trap and he deserves the worst, that it keeps killing them and turning them into monsters to kill and eat him. He can't accept it and he can't change, so much so that he's in there for centuries in a hell of his own making. And how does he escape? By tricking demons that want to torture him for everything into leaving a way out... only for him to get sent to actual hell well after he realizes what he had. It's the only way Constantine's story could end; damned to hell because he could not believe he could get into heaven.
me too, it's like HIS theme now. It's like "we're about to talk about some really dark shit, and get into some really beautiful stuff. Here's an old friend to tell you all about it"
I've watched my favorite DC characters lose and my favorite Marvel characters lose and for some reason watching my DC favorites lose hits home and hurts as compared to Marvel. I think it's because of what you said about Superman and his non stop hope. Watching that die is just soul crushing.
My wife (who only knows Teen Titans TV show) walked in as i was watching the beginning of this movie, and was shocked seeing Starfire "die" in the opening sequence.
Such a great film. Growing up with these animated films in the background of my life never made me realize how attached I was to all these characters, voice actors, story, ect. Seeing it ripped in a grand finale really made me a feel a way I didn't expect. It was beautifully depressing. I always end up finding myself rewatching the clip of Barry having no other option than to reset it all. So dark yet inspiring. I'm so glad these characters have stood the test of time.
Please make a video about John Constantine because he was my favourite character in this mediocre continuity. Matt Ryan as John Constantine is one of the greatest castings for a comic book character of all time. Every time he speaks it's as if the character has jumped from the pages.
Yes!! Have you seen the epilouge for this universe? I feel like it really wasnt marketed well. Its pretty much spektor punishing constsntine for what he did.
@@artificiallystupidintellig8819 Not yet. I'm doing a full rewatch of every DC animated project starting with the DCAU. I just finished Batman the Animated Series (in production order) along with Mask of the Phantasm and Batman and Mr. Freeze Subzero and then continuing on with Superman the Animated Series and The New Batman Adventures.
So glad to see some love for this movie. The only times I ever see it mentioned is people saying it was overly dark and edgy, but I love it because of that and because of the great redemption of all the characters.
I watched this movie this month for the first time. This is definitely the darkest DC movie I’ve ever watched and it was so good Man was it so depressing
I enjoyed the hell outta the Dark series. All of them. They terrify me on a level I can't explain, but they were really good and what I wished the live-action DC movies could be.
I’m still confused how narratively he was able to reset the timeline? Flashpoint happened because Barry wanted to save his mother and in the end he had to go back in time to stop himself from doing that; that time book inadvertently created the new 52 universe. But what did he run back in time to do that changed it to the tomorrowverse? Or is the mere act of running back in time the macguffin to just hand wave and fix everything.
The reason why I like this movie is becuase the heroes fail and fail HARD, they have to scramble and try to make up for that their failure caused within their team and for the world. It's a realistic take for me. Heroes can fail and will fail sometimes, but with their skills they will make up for it and while it doesn't solve Everything it takes earth from such a compromising position.
I will say I feel like the ending for this movie got rewritten I feel like the original ending had constantine using the compulsion spell on the flash to reset the timeline for a few reasons 1 : It fires chekovs gun and makes the story come back to where it started 2 : It doesn't really make sense that the Justice League, after just fighting tooth and nail to barely eek out what you could convince yourself was some semblance of a tainted victory, would gamble it all away on a dime, without even discussing it. 3 : It fits Constantine's character far more since he is EXACTLY the type of person to use a spell on someone else to do what he thinks is for the greater good, even if a lot of people disagree and would hate him for it. He did that EXACT thing in Constantine City of Demons to Chaz. 4 : It really doesn't make sense for Barry to do what Constantine asked because he lived through flashpoint. In the DCAMU flashpoint was ROYALLY fucked, as in, superman could barely speak, batman was a lonely, near-elderly man on the verge of committing suicide, the world was about to be nuked by the atlanteans, etc. Maybe the other characters wouldn't have really internalized what happened, but Barry saw it, there isn't any way he would willingly do another flashpoint. 5 : Spectre punished Constantine for messing with time, not Barry, in the final Constantine: The House of Mystery short. That doesn't make ANY sense with the theatrical ending since, Constantine just suggested Barry should alter time, Barry is the one who actually did it. So why the hell does Constantine get an eternity in his own personal hell/purgatory but Barry gets off scott free? 6 : Constantine has always had a touch of self-loathing, but his entire arc in justice league DAW was learning that he wasn't a coward, he didn't doom his world, and in fact, he saved it. He's still a conning back stabbing bastard, and he knows it, but after that entire arc, saving his entire universe, is he REALLY still so self-loathing that he can subconsciously turn the house of mystery into his own personal hell for centuries on end? That just doesn't make sense character wise. There are other minor reasons as well but those are the big ones.
Fun fact, it's the same Darkseid in every single one of his appearances, he's a multiversal singularity, this was just another day at the office for him.
I think that only implies on the comics, not the movies. There’s also the fact that he’s weaker in the movies compared to his comic counterpart. Not really a “multiversal singularity” if he’s so easily beaten by someone stronger (except for the Hellbat suit considering it’s a culmination of all Justice League members).
@@MelianLimGachaVideos Well...as said: Darkseid is. The Darkseid the JL fights isn't even the real Darkseid per se, but just a sort of Dwindled Darkseid compared to the true being behind all of them. Just because you can wound, beat back, or even kill Darkseid it doesn't really mean much when he literally simply in his entirety just is. That simple message hammered home over and over again I think speaks loudly to what one deals with when it truly comes to this one. Because the real Darkseid likely doesn't even consider any single universe worthy of his full attention. Certainly, there are things more powerful out there, but yea...still shouldn't downplay something like this.
Well a big misconception superman and jla has fought true darksied slvia boomtube and its generally a misconception cause most people only know darksied from power scaling or imaginary axis 2 videos
This is Both a Great Ending and Reboot it Again for the Better,It’s Also a What If Scenario if Darkseid Win and How even if the World is in Desperate to His Enjoyment on this Tragedy,There’s Still Hope in the Most Unexpected Way,It’s One of the Best DC Films that Rivals Ever Flashpoint Paradox.
JLD:AW is actually the film that got me back into the DC universe. Glad to see that people still like this film! Here's to more Constantine in the future.
Throughout the story, the thing that stuck out was almost all the characters had 'heart', and you could see it. From the start were Flash gives Bruce a message from his father, and to the end when Clark still wants to fix what was broken; the characters were being true to themselves. They didn't go through the most interesting of conflicts or trials through the different movies, but it was largely free of the deconstruction and the forced messaging found in so many other media these days. At the end of the day they did win, and while resetting everything does seem like a cheat, I understand why it was done: To bookend the whole arc. After all their entire existence was essentially a mistake to being with, and this whole thing was one big "What-if" story; but with it told the book can be closed. It would be interesting though, to see the story continued, but it wouldn't be anything large stakes I don't think. It would just be people struggling with the day to day things, to reclaim an apocalyptic sundered world; in where the biggest challenge isn't to defeat some big bad, but to probably shift the orbit of the planet Earth to allow for a more habitable climate. Could be an interesting story to tell, but it's not a 'super hero' story.
Well, that movie was followed by *Constantine: The House of Mystery* which serves as a bridge between the DCAMU and the Tommorowverse, so if you want a real "book end" it's short movie to watch. That's also one of Matt Ryan's last times as JC, except for one episode of the third season of *Harley Quinn* that came out later in 2022.
5:12 LOL No. Trigon didn't die because he loves his daughter. He relished in fighting Darkseid because he was a means of Freedom for him, he had his own body and could use it, and he was just trapped beforehand by Darkseid's Omega Beams. He has no love for Raven...
This is definitely my favorite super hero movie to watch of all time. Might not be as objectively good as some other stuff, but for me it’s the most satisfying watch that is somehow upliftingly sad. I just love it.
While the DC New 52 animated movie universe ended on a bittersweet note, I do think that Justice League Dark Apokalips War was a good movie and a fine way to end that DC film universe.
After all the reasons a Superman has given for turning evil, despite his fuck up, this movie's Superman is probably gonna be the thing I remember best about this middling franchise
Alot if people hate on the new 52. I feel like one of the few that enjoyed every part of the series. The characters just felt more real and grounded in reality. When. A danger cropped up I was genuinely concerned for the heros as I didn't feel they had plot armor. When a big scary villain show up, be scared. Watching doomsday plow through the justice league was unreal. I for real believed the title, "The Death of Superman"
I loved this film, it really gutted me when I watched it. I never expected it to get so dark but it was a perfect culmination of Flashpoint and this universe. RIP Batgirl.
Just wanted to say that I have been following your channel but recently you became my regular dose of brain candy. Thank you, thank you for what you are doing.
Man Having the power to change absolutely everything must make it incredibly hard to know which things you can't change. Seeing Superman smash Darkside against the floor holding him by his eye sockets was so damn satisfying.
Another great video about things I care deeply about. Time to rewatch Justice League Dark Apocalypse War... Apokalipps... Apocalipppps... Goodbye weird New52 animated weird thing. There were some great moments, but mostly... weird ones.
My Theory Antithesis of villainy in this movie: Darksied was written like a street gangster warlord from space in these line of animated movies for a reason. They had to make him a lot like Nino Brown from New Jack City. They written out his original furies and his wrecking crew as if he forgot about them. It just kept showing these animated versions of the heroes getting into usual superpowered antics instead of dealing with the average thinking bad guy from most of realities. When they didn't have the Injustice League (the bad guy team with actual conviction) to stop? It just gave the heroes villains that didn't prepare them enough. Slade wasn't there to put The Titans to the test and Superman didn't have Brainiac there to teach him a lesson or two. All petty Darksied had to do after all that? Was just stop and open up shop ready to take over the space block. This whole movie was supposed to be a statement to some stuff like it was a protest.
I found the DC AMU so interesting, in flashpoint the earth never becomes a threat to Darkseid to he just ignores it and it ends in self destruction. But on the other hand Darkseid does see the earth as a threat and proceeds to destroy it. The world ends in 2 different flavours of death
In fearful day, in raging night, With strong hearts full our souls ignite, when all seems lost in the War of Light, Look to the stars for hope shines BRIGHT!
Ngl, I think it would have been braver of the writers to make the deaths of the Leaguers matter and not have them break their mind control. The fact that all of the cyborg Leaguers almost instantly got turned good again kind of makes Darkseid look like an idiot for not just killing everybody.
The hard part for me with storylines like Flashpoint is that Flash is basically killing the entire universe. I mean, in the grand scheme what's one planet in the face of a Universe where True Evil has finally been cast out?
@@supersani21 -- You're right. I hadn't thought of that. The Green Lantern Corps could be rebuilt, or one of the other corps could take over their role. That story has been done half to death in other places. Heck, it wouldn't even be impossible for earth's heroes to save themselves and and some remnant of humanity by evacuating earth and colonizing a new world a la Argo City. But one thing Darkseid *was* successful at is preventing that universe from ever developing a *Legion of Superheroes* with the Justice League and the green Lantern corps as its direct inspiration. Given how plentiful time travel is in DC, I'd even expect that Darkseid and Batman specifically targeted worlds that future notable legionaries came from. The lesson burned into the galaxy by Darkseid's legacy will be that Earth and Apokolips will be remembered as just another pair of galactic powers that went to war and annihilated each other and countless worlds were caught in the vise between them. Superman won't be remembered as *the* paragon hero. He'll be lucky to remembered at all. And if he is, it will be in the same breath as other Kryptonian tyrants like General Zod. Plus, there's nothing to hold expansionist powers like the Reach back now that there's a power vacuum either. The universe would almost certainly be a worse place to live that the main DC timeline. But so help me, I still can't help but feel like Flash is killing every child who could only ever be born into the DCAMU *after* a cataclysmic event like this. I guess that's a long-winded way of saying I think Flash should get a second opinion from Booster first.
Argument: I'm pretty sure Trigon didn't die and just went into an eternal fight with someone who could actually throw hands with him. Both of them are basically unkillable monsters that can't be stopped. Pretty sure though, Trigon can actually unleash his whole power in his dimension, whereas Darkseid is still limited by his avatar.
One time I gotta disagree with you. Majority of the deaths everyone was just straight up suffering and trying to save the world. Only ones that didn't were the ones near the end because they had a plan for once. And the hope at the end was cut short when Batman pointed out the planet was doomed and they literally couldn't stop it if they tried. Thus leaving Flash with no other option but to reset, reset everything that they had worked for just because it was better than their current outcome. And that's why this movie is depressing. Everything they built in the universe was for nothing. No one amounted to anything more than fodder. I like the new universe but this was not the way to reset it
I have to agree. It felt like a slap in the face and middle finger for daring to even care about these characters. Everything got too big to handle and instead of trying to come up with a decent way to use the characters in some multipart finale they decided to just torch it all so they didn't have to think abuot it.
They managed to match the extreme optimism and hope Superman brings with extreme levels of despair and violence, though. Everyone says how bloody and gratuitous some of this film's scenes are, but the short still images and the unseen implications for this are even worse. Everything is so grim it deserved another shot at comics as an expanded Dark Multiverse storyline. And Luthor somehow outsmarted batman and Darkseid... Kinda.
Honestly, I hated this movie cause it felt like the time i used to watch previous films were pointless and any characters i liked just gets slaughtered and it felt like gore/torture porn These essays have given me more positive outlook on this and other films. I still don't like it, but I can appreciate it's beautiful and great scenes and ideas better
It might not be a great movie, subjectively speaking, but i personally enjoy it a lot. It was a bittersweet ending for me. It had great fight scenes and the final battle was epic.
I just love how DC has the balls to fucking kill their hero’s. I LOVE THE EDGE AND BRAVENESS they have. It was so cool seeing a bad ending type of story for this movie. Who knows what’s planned for the next continuity. Here’s hoping they bring back Paul dini to write stuff again
Yeah. Punishing a man for trying to make the world a better place and no I don't care that it was supposed to be "heaven" it's a punishment. They yanked him out of the universe just because it was his idea to use another flashpoint to give everyone hope. Not only does it screw over the end of D:AW which was already insulting but it just makes you feel bad for daring to care about these characters.
only thing i have against this movie is that they gave superman new suit via some bullshit trigon burned kryptonite out of his body and that battered badass superman was to be the one beating darkside
I swear you can narrate and dive into the most random or mixed bag piece of media and make it out to be the most beautiful piece of media ever. How do you do it?
The fact that Matt Ryan can play Constantine in both animation and Live-Action just proves he is the literal perfect casting
I had no idea!
EXACTLY HE'S GOATED
People can talk about Keanu Reeves all day but Matt Ryan is my Constantine
@@busisiwemosiea2034 I like both, Matt Ryan is the better of the two but a part of me hope both versions can somehow meet (multiverse, ya know)
god i hope he gets casted as the DCU constantine so bad, he really deserves it for his years of dedication and love for the character.
"So, you are this so called "New God". I am unimpressed." is one of the hardest lines ever
The most Relevant Trigun has ever been
One of the most chilling lines in the movie is when Clark narrates and says “Darkseid didn’t kill all of us. Some, he had plans for”
I love how this movie universe ends. It started with the Flash running and it ended with the Flash running.
Clark stopping Raven from killing herself always hits me hard. Someone posted that specific clip on RUclips and I watch it every so often.
Post link
Can You Link It For Pls?
ruclips.net/video/vSzAwQ-YaEk/видео.html
It’s very strange yet it feels so right
That is a really great reference to All Star Superman.
I really think about Barry most often, I mean when he resets a timeline and he will be the only one who will remember all the death, all the gore and everyone one of his friends die. And at the end everyone knows that he is the only one who can change things and alter the timeline back to normal, only that everyone else forgets but he remembers it.
He forgets with time
He’s memories change according to the new timeline he joins
He seems fine in the new timeline
he dosent remember when he creates a new timeline if that was the case he would have remembered the flashpoint that happend before that and created the franchise which he dosent. plus if he did remember they probaly would have brought it or at least referenced it in the justice society movie which they dont
it depends. over time, his memories adjust to the timeline, but if he was to write what he knew down, he’d be able to save his memories.
We need more Constantine in the DCU. I think he's underrated. I liked all the movies he's in
They're definitely setting him up to be a key player in the Tomorrowverse.
matt ryan is constantine!
@@bradastra6111 your username is so freaking appropriate
@@ShinySephiroth1 I see xD ahah
Yeah but we need MATT RYAN. I just finished watching the canceled live action tv series and I want MOAR :(
Such a satisfying ending to the mixed bag that was this franchise
It’s like a bag of jelly belly’s because some are horrible, some are okay and some are fantastic, it can be between all three of those
I wouldn't call it satisfying, Green Lantern (one of the first league members) was killed in a single still frame
@@NoSweatMan-_- yeah actually, but like he wasn’t really a focus but still I wanted to see more flash, John Stewart green lantern and cyborg in the dcamu
@@YogurtEdits Not even just him, so many other characters just got sent off
And yet it was better than the entire DCEU
Cyborg did not kill Darkseid or trigon, he pulled them into a nother realm to which they could not escape. basiclly letting Darkseid and Trigon fight for eternity. that is why Trigon was so excited. thats why he was laughing as he pulled Darkseid into that portal.
Oh damn that's cool I didn't realize that at first
Am I the only one mad that cyborgs last words wasn't booyah?
"And unlike in rule 34, total subjugation doesn't involve Thanos' rectum" came out of nowhere, Jesus.
“What a wonderful little universe we have. Oh well, the comics were rebooted - time to BURN IT TO THE FUCKING GROUND.”
That's exactly what it felt like. As if they can't/couldn't have multiple different versions at once. I hate that comics insist on just trashing everything instead of just saying this universe is having the book closed, maybe we'll come back maybe not but here's something new.
Superman slamming Darkside on the ground is what he has to do, Superman stopping Ravena from killing herself is who he is.
You're absolutely correct.
100%
Fuckin nailed it
Ah, the old superhero comics standby: “We’re all out of ideas soooo…killing it is!”
Way too. Accurate lol
Especially when reign of the supermen leads directly into so many great comics events...they had all the ideas they could ask for right at the end of that movie.
Some people just can't stand to see evil win.
@@WarlordBailthur you say that like it's a bad thing lol
@@gamestar6479 it's an annoying thing. It's why I struggle to enjoy most superhero movies or even action films. I just prefer a bit more realism to the threats presented and a bit less plot armor. Even if good wins I dont want to have full and undoubting confidence that they will pull out a W.
Superman comforting Raven after stopping her from committing suicide is quite possibly one of the greatest Superman moments in anything ever, a perfect example of how there will always be a shining light in the darkest of times. Helps that it's basically the animated version of almost the exact same moment from All-Star Superman.
You perfectly epitomized why I love this film, despite not vibing with the DCAMU beforehand. It really made you look back on the other films and appreciate what worked, bringing everything to an end that I don't think works in any other shared universe.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one...
Biggest crime in this movie is that Cyborg doesn’t say “Booyah bitches” at the end
i love how damian gave shiva some final words before leaving her.
This string of animated DC movies introduced me to characters I knew little to nothing about like Damian wayne and John Constantine. They became my favorites quickly. Having the whole universe wiped away at the end as if to say the last 10 years of movies never happened, really depressed the shit outta me. I wasn't right for like 2 days.
You have accomplished something, I don't know if it's what you've set out to achieve, but you've done it.
You have reignited a love for DC and it's characters within me and presumably all those watching. You've most definitely had a part in me getting back in touch with a foolish optimism I'm grateful for. Your comments on Super man have allowed me to see how great a character he is, a man with morals. While I can't list everything you've showed us, and sometimes I may not get it immediately either, your videos are a wonderful thing and I love them to death.
Keep up the good work.
I just want to give a shoutout to Constantine and the House of Mystery for being surprisingly perfect and appropriately being a short to properly match the story it tells.
SPOILERS BELOW:
It is a shockingly fitting conclusion for Constantine as a character. Where the man was sent a heaven surrounded by friends and even kids for him, but his mind is so insistent that there can be no happy endings for him, that everything is a trap and he deserves the worst, that it keeps killing them and turning them into monsters to kill and eat him. He can't accept it and he can't change, so much so that he's in there for centuries in a hell of his own making. And how does he escape? By tricking demons that want to torture him for everything into leaving a way out... only for him to get sent to actual hell well after he realizes what he had.
It's the only way Constantine's story could end; damned to hell because he could not believe he could get into heaven.
You've been churning out some top shelf videos lately man. Thank you. Fucking love that intro. Always makes me smile
me too, it's like HIS theme now. It's like "we're about to talk about some really dark shit, and get into some really beautiful stuff. Here's an old friend to tell you all about it"
I've watched my favorite DC characters lose and my favorite Marvel characters lose and for some reason watching my DC favorites lose hits home and hurts as compared to Marvel. I think it's because of what you said about Superman and his non stop hope. Watching that die is just soul crushing.
My wife (who only knows Teen Titans TV show) walked in as i was watching the beginning of this movie, and was shocked seeing Starfire "die" in the opening sequence.
Jack Kirby isn't a Marvel Legend, a DC Legend
He was a Comic Legend
Such a great film. Growing up with these animated films in the background of my life never made me realize how attached I was to all these characters, voice actors, story, ect. Seeing it ripped in a grand finale really made me a feel a way I didn't expect. It was beautifully depressing. I always end up finding myself rewatching the clip of Barry having no other option than to reset it all. So dark yet inspiring. I'm so glad these characters have stood the test of time.
Please make a video about John Constantine because he was my favourite character in this mediocre continuity. Matt Ryan as John Constantine is one of the greatest castings for a comic book character of all time. Every time he speaks it's as if the character has jumped from the pages.
Yes!! Have you seen the epilouge for this universe? I feel like it really wasnt marketed well. Its pretty much spektor punishing constsntine for what he did.
@@artificiallystupidintellig8819 Not yet. I'm doing a full rewatch of every DC animated project starting with the DCAU. I just finished Batman the Animated Series (in production order) along with Mask of the Phantasm and Batman and Mr. Freeze Subzero and then continuing on with Superman the Animated Series and The New Batman Adventures.
@@The_Phantasm that sounds fucking amazinng. thats alot. hope you follow through! possibly make your own video on it.
You’re in every DC comment section and I must ask, where did you get the PFP from?
i just finished watching this movie exactly as this was posted oh my god
and as usual your videos are spectacular!
So glad to see some love for this movie. The only times I ever see it mentioned is people saying it was overly dark and edgy, but I love it because of that and because of the great redemption of all the characters.
A lot of people only ever examine things on a surface level and therefore miss the point entirely
Cyborgs final words should of been "Boo ya"
I watched this movie this month for the first time. This is definitely the darkest DC movie I’ve ever watched and it was so good
Man was it so depressing
Accept the things you cannot change. Have the courage to change the things you can. And have the wisdom to know the difference.
Cyborg’s last words is probably my only real problem with the movie, and it’s indicative of my problems with the DCAMU
The whole DCAMU, even though it was a lot of mediocre films, was an enjoyable and fun ride. And Dark Apocalipse was a great way to ent it
I enjoyed the hell outta the Dark series. All of them. They terrify me on a level I can't explain, but they were really good and what I wished the live-action DC movies could be.
I’m still confused how narratively he was able to reset the timeline? Flashpoint happened because Barry wanted to save his mother and in the end he had to go back in time to stop himself from doing that; that time book inadvertently created the new 52 universe. But what did he run back in time to do that changed it to the tomorrowverse? Or is the mere act of running back in time the macguffin to just hand wave and fix everything.
The reason why I like this movie is becuase the heroes fail and fail HARD, they have to scramble and try to make up for that their failure caused within their team and for the world.
It's a realistic take for me. Heroes can fail and will fail sometimes, but with their skills they will make up for it and while it doesn't solve Everything it takes earth from such a compromising position.
I will say I feel like the ending for this movie got rewritten
I feel like the original ending had constantine using the compulsion spell on the flash to reset the timeline for a few reasons
1 : It fires chekovs gun and makes the story come back to where it started
2 : It doesn't really make sense that the Justice League, after just fighting tooth and nail to barely eek out what you could convince yourself was some semblance of a tainted victory, would gamble it all away on a dime, without even discussing it.
3 : It fits Constantine's character far more since he is EXACTLY the type of person to use a spell on someone else to do what he thinks is for the greater good, even if a lot of people disagree and would hate him for it. He did that EXACT thing in Constantine City of Demons to Chaz.
4 : It really doesn't make sense for Barry to do what Constantine asked because he lived through flashpoint. In the DCAMU flashpoint was ROYALLY fucked, as in, superman could barely speak, batman was a lonely, near-elderly man on the verge of committing suicide, the world was about to be nuked by the atlanteans, etc. Maybe the other characters wouldn't have really internalized what happened, but Barry saw it, there isn't any way he would willingly do another flashpoint.
5 : Spectre punished Constantine for messing with time, not Barry, in the final Constantine: The House of Mystery short. That doesn't make ANY sense with the theatrical ending since, Constantine just suggested Barry should alter time, Barry is the one who actually did it. So why the hell does Constantine get an eternity in his own personal hell/purgatory but Barry gets off scott free?
6 : Constantine has always had a touch of self-loathing, but his entire arc in justice league DAW was learning that he wasn't a coward, he didn't doom his world, and in fact, he saved it. He's still a conning back stabbing bastard, and he knows it, but after that entire arc, saving his entire universe, is he REALLY still so self-loathing that he can subconsciously turn the house of mystery into his own personal hell for centuries on end? That just doesn't make sense character wise.
There are other minor reasons as well but those are the big ones.
This is what you call a real Justice League movie, a wonderful representation of Darksied and a hopeful representation of Superman.
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Really like this universes “classic” Superman design post resurrection
Fun fact, it's the same Darkseid in every single one of his appearances, he's a multiversal singularity, this was just another day at the office for him.
I think that only implies on the comics, not the movies. There’s also the fact that he’s weaker in the movies compared to his comic counterpart. Not really a “multiversal singularity” if he’s so easily beaten by someone stronger (except for the Hellbat suit considering it’s a culmination of all Justice League members).
@@MelianLimGachaVideos Well...as said: Darkseid is. The Darkseid the JL fights isn't even the real Darkseid per se, but just a sort of Dwindled Darkseid compared to the true being behind all of them. Just because you can wound, beat back, or even kill Darkseid it doesn't really mean much when he literally simply in his entirety just is. That simple message hammered home over and over again I think speaks loudly to what one deals with when it truly comes to this one. Because the real Darkseid likely doesn't even consider any single universe worthy of his full attention. Certainly, there are things more powerful out there, but yea...still shouldn't downplay something like this.
Well a big misconception superman and jla has fought true darksied slvia boomtube and its generally a misconception cause most people only know darksied from power scaling or imaginary axis 2 videos
This is Both a Great Ending and Reboot it Again for the Better,It’s Also a What If Scenario if Darkseid Win and How even if the World is in Desperate to His Enjoyment on this Tragedy,There’s Still Hope in the Most Unexpected Way,It’s One of the Best DC Films that Rivals Ever Flashpoint Paradox.
Movie was kinda bad lol
@@TruthSeeker23099 You forgot to add "my opinion"
@@REALMCDASH10 fair enough
I loved how they turned trigon on darksied
Can't believe i watched this to the end with no pause and breaks. Subscribed!!
Constantine’s showcase would be an awsome cherry on top of this video ❤
JLD:AW is actually the film that got me back into the DC universe. Glad to see that people still like this film! Here's to more Constantine in the future.
Throughout the story, the thing that stuck out was almost all the characters had 'heart', and you could see it. From the start were Flash gives Bruce a message from his father, and to the end when Clark still wants to fix what was broken; the characters were being true to themselves. They didn't go through the most interesting of conflicts or trials through the different movies, but it was largely free of the deconstruction and the forced messaging found in so many other media these days.
At the end of the day they did win, and while resetting everything does seem like a cheat, I understand why it was done: To bookend the whole arc. After all their entire existence was essentially a mistake to being with, and this whole thing was one big "What-if" story; but with it told the book can be closed. It would be interesting though, to see the story continued, but it wouldn't be anything large stakes I don't think. It would just be people struggling with the day to day things, to reclaim an apocalyptic sundered world; in where the biggest challenge isn't to defeat some big bad, but to probably shift the orbit of the planet Earth to allow for a more habitable climate. Could be an interesting story to tell, but it's not a 'super hero' story.
Well, that movie was followed by *Constantine: The House of Mystery* which serves as a bridge between the DCAMU and the Tommorowverse, so if you want a real "book end" it's short movie to watch.
That's also one of Matt Ryan's last times as JC, except for one episode of the third season of *Harley Quinn* that came out later in 2022.
6:22 that's the best piece of DC animation ever made
this felt more like a recap than a deep dive of how you see their psychology or archetypes. still enjoyed it tho
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... and then the Universe does the equivalent of putting Constantine over its knee to give him a spanking for inciting a Flashpoint on purpose.
5:12 LOL No. Trigon didn't die because he loves his daughter. He relished in fighting Darkseid because he was a means of Freedom for him, he had his own body and could use it, and he was just trapped beforehand by Darkseid's Omega Beams. He has no love for Raven...
This is definitely my favorite super hero movie to watch of all time. Might not be as objectively good as some other stuff, but for me it’s the most satisfying watch that is somehow upliftingly sad. I just love it.
It really is a great movie and so depressing man
The DCAMU Damian Wayne is what got me to start liking the character and turned me onto his comics! Please do a video about 🙏
While the DC New 52 animated movie universe ended on a bittersweet note, I do think that Justice League Dark Apokalips War was a good movie and a fine way to end that DC film universe.
After all the reasons a Superman has given for turning evil, despite his fuck up, this movie's Superman is probably gonna be the thing I remember best about this middling franchise
Alot if people hate on the new 52. I feel like one of the few that enjoyed every part of the series. The characters just felt more real and grounded in reality. When. A danger cropped up I was genuinely concerned for the heros as I didn't feel they had plot armor. When a big scary villain show up, be scared. Watching doomsday plow through the justice league was unreal. I for real believed the title, "The Death of Superman"
Amazing how you can find this sort of meaning behind such a doomer-ass ending, I see this kind of stuff and it just ruins my week
Dark apokolips war is literally if you just took away everyone’s plot armor
I loved this film, it really gutted me when I watched it. I never expected it to get so dark but it was a perfect culmination of Flashpoint and this universe. RIP Batgirl.
Just wanted to say that I have been following your channel but recently you became my regular dose of brain candy. Thank you, thank you for what you are doing.
aaand then we get Constantine getting the blessing and curse of being with the people he loves the most... forever... in the house of mysteries
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Having the power to change absolutely everything must make it incredibly hard to know which things you can't change.
Seeing Superman smash Darkside against the floor holding him by his eye sockets was so damn satisfying.
Another great video about things I care deeply about. Time to rewatch Justice League Dark Apocalypse War... Apokalipps... Apocalipppps...
Goodbye weird New52 animated weird thing. There were some great moments, but mostly... weird ones.
i’m so happy u made a video about this insane movie. looking forward to more !
And then Constantine ends up in prison being repeatedly murdered by his friends and lovers forever. Canonically he is currently not in the timeline.
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Man the Flashpoint or chenging the timeline really hit hard for me the idea of all Our favorts heroes being gone earesed from existent is really dark
Trigon is more trapped forever, but still nice to see this movie get love.
My Theory Antithesis of villainy in this movie: Darksied was written like a street gangster warlord from space in these line of animated movies for a reason. They had to make him a lot like Nino Brown from New Jack City. They written out his original furies and his wrecking crew as if he forgot about them. It just kept showing these animated versions of the heroes getting into usual superpowered antics instead of dealing with the average thinking bad guy from most of realities. When they didn't have the Injustice League (the bad guy team with actual conviction) to stop? It just gave the heroes villains that didn't prepare them enough. Slade wasn't there to put The Titans to the test and Superman didn't have Brainiac there to teach him a lesson or two. All petty Darksied had to do after all that? Was just stop and open up shop ready to take over the space block. This whole movie was supposed to be a statement to some stuff like it was a protest.
I found the DC AMU so interesting, in flashpoint the earth never becomes a threat to Darkseid to he just ignores it and it ends in self destruction. But on the other hand Darkseid does see the earth as a threat and proceeds to destroy it. The world ends in 2 different flavours of death
In fearful day, in raging night, With strong hearts full our souls ignite, when all seems lost in the War of Light, Look to the stars for hope shines BRIGHT!
I love the Blue Lanterns. :)
Yeah about that, where the hell were these bozo's could have used them against darkside
I would dare say Superman couldn't get over his... TRUAMA!
Ngl, I think it would have been braver of the writers to make the deaths of the Leaguers matter and not have them break their mind control. The fact that all of the cyborg Leaguers almost instantly got turned good again kind of makes Darkseid look like an idiot for not just killing everybody.
The hard part for me with storylines like Flashpoint is that Flash is basically killing the entire universe.
I mean, in the grand scheme what's one planet in the face of a Universe where True Evil has finally been cast out?
But it wasnt just a planet. Darkseid campaigned everywhere with his paradooms and even the Green Lanterns are all extinct.
@@supersani21 -- You're right. I hadn't thought of that. The Green Lantern Corps could be rebuilt, or one of the other corps could take over their role. That story has been done half to death in other places.
Heck, it wouldn't even be impossible for earth's heroes to save themselves and and some remnant of humanity by evacuating earth and colonizing a new world a la Argo City.
But one thing Darkseid *was* successful at is preventing that universe from ever developing a *Legion of Superheroes* with the Justice League and the green Lantern corps as its direct inspiration. Given how plentiful time travel is in DC, I'd even expect that Darkseid and Batman specifically targeted worlds that future notable legionaries came from.
The lesson burned into the galaxy by Darkseid's legacy will be that Earth and Apokolips will be remembered as just another pair of galactic powers that went to war and annihilated each other and countless worlds were caught in the vise between them.
Superman won't be remembered as *the* paragon hero. He'll be lucky to remembered at all. And if he is, it will be in the same breath as other Kryptonian tyrants like General Zod.
Plus, there's nothing to hold expansionist powers like the Reach back now that there's a power vacuum either.
The universe would almost certainly be a worse place to live that the main DC timeline.
But so help me, I still can't help but feel like Flash is killing every child who could only ever be born into the DCAMU *after* a cataclysmic event like this.
I guess that's a long-winded way of saying I think Flash should get a second opinion from Booster first.
The best DC movie ever made.
Argument: I'm pretty sure Trigon didn't die and just went into an eternal fight with someone who could actually throw hands with him. Both of them are basically unkillable monsters that can't be stopped. Pretty sure though, Trigon can actually unleash his whole power in his dimension, whereas Darkseid is still limited by his avatar.
Can’t wait for all the Superman content mentioned in the credits!
Damian‘s death was my favourite part of the universe and I wish they let the bastard stay dead
Did he say this whole universe was a bunch of mid movies?! Wow! Just wow!!!
I was waiting this video from you!
This movie was such a gut punch
One time I gotta disagree with you. Majority of the deaths everyone was just straight up suffering and trying to save the world. Only ones that didn't were the ones near the end because they had a plan for once. And the hope at the end was cut short when Batman pointed out the planet was doomed and they literally couldn't stop it if they tried. Thus leaving Flash with no other option but to reset, reset everything that they had worked for just because it was better than their current outcome. And that's why this movie is depressing. Everything they built in the universe was for nothing. No one amounted to anything more than fodder. I like the new universe but this was not the way to reset it
I have to agree. It felt like a slap in the face and middle finger for daring to even care about these characters. Everything got too big to handle and instead of trying to come up with a decent way to use the characters in some multipart finale they decided to just torch it all so they didn't have to think abuot it.
They managed to match the extreme optimism and hope Superman brings with extreme levels of despair and violence, though.
Everyone says how bloody and gratuitous some of this film's scenes are, but the short still images and the unseen implications for this are even worse. Everything is so grim it deserved another shot at comics as an expanded Dark Multiverse storyline.
And Luthor somehow outsmarted batman and Darkseid... Kinda.
Darkseid lucky Zeus didn’t step in
And then Constatine gets punished for an eternity
I will always say it, i hate they teased wonder girl and superboy for the titans and that never happened
Justice League dark: apocalypse war is my favourite DC animated movie.
I thought that it was an easy way to end this series i wish they could have put in more effort to make it work it was genuinely unique
Honestly, I hated this movie cause it felt like the time i used to watch previous films were pointless and any characters i liked just gets slaughtered and it felt like gore/torture porn
These essays have given me more positive outlook on this and other films. I still don't like it, but I can appreciate it's beautiful and great scenes and ideas better
It might not be a great movie, subjectively speaking, but i personally enjoy it a lot. It was a bittersweet ending for me. It had great fight scenes and the final battle was epic.
Superman going apeshit on Darkseid is the most satisfying scene in the entire movie
I just love how DC has the balls to fucking kill their hero’s. I LOVE THE EDGE AND BRAVENESS they have. It was so cool seeing a bad ending type of story for this movie. Who knows what’s planned for the next continuity. Here’s hoping they bring back Paul dini to write stuff again
I mean.... I think Darkseid was more pissed off than jock.
Wish he would have included the King Shark is a shark clips, especially went talking about how they accepted death with a smile.
What was worse was the short they made of Constatine's punishment
Yeah. Punishing a man for trying to make the world a better place and no I don't care that it was supposed to be "heaven" it's a punishment. They yanked him out of the universe just because it was his idea to use another flashpoint to give everyone hope. Not only does it screw over the end of D:AW which was already insulting but it just makes you feel bad for daring to care about these characters.
Everyone’s fired: the animated movie
only thing i have against this movie is that they gave superman new suit via some bullshit
trigon burned kryptonite out of his body
and that battered badass superman was to be the one beating darkside
That jack kirby quote at the beginning contrasted with how his character in the superman show dies is kind've funny in a dark way.
I swear you can narrate and dive into the most random or mixed bag piece of media and make it out to be the most beautiful piece of media ever.
How do you do it?
This is my favourite movie man