The Tent I Said I'd Never Buy! Lanshan 2 Pro!
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024
- I had told myself that I would never buy a Lanshan 2 Pro.... Well, that didn't last long as my curiosity took over and I ended up ordering one to see what it's all about. Here are my first impressions of the Lanshan 2 Pro.
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Well done to be flexible on your own preconceptions
Four season does not mean storm tent
The change from mesh to fabric makes a significant difference in the temp inside
Compared to those 400+ euro tents, the lanshan2 series is very competitive and provides useful help to many users
I've been curious about this tent. For the price, it seems pretty good!
Man, that backdrop you have....what I wouldn't give to live in a place like that! Lucky!!!!
Out the gate it was simple to pitch, and build quality is there. It also shipped quickly without dealing with Aliexpress nonsense.
Yeah man, I live in a pretty rad place! That spot is just 10 minutes down the road from my house on a section of BLM land, and a nice view of the mountains over Utah Lake.
Trust me (and others) - get the regular Lanshan 2 with both inners. Avoid the condensation. Be warmer in the winter. It is worth the extra half-pound.
Besides, the regular Lanshan is almost fully sealed. (There are a couple of small spots that need a dab more of sealant, like on the guyouts.) The Pro needs complete sealing, which will add about two ounces to it.
I have the 3 season 2 Pro. It’s fantastic! Packs so small and easy to set up. Took about 30 minutes to seam seal. There’s no tent in this price range that even comes close to this tent. Love it!
4 season for sure will have quite a bit of condensation. Can’t wait to hear how you like it.
I have this same tent. I echo your review. I’m very impressed and have used it once so far. My camping buddies were impressed as well. Can’t beat this tent for the price
I did an experiment in my original Lanshan 2 with the 4 season inner…. On a chilly night where the outside temp was 26 F (-3) after a couple of hours the inside temperature was bearable and ‘sleepable’ 46F (8C) and the condensation wasn’t too bad at all. I expect you won’t find that so much with the single skin version. That same night my friends had the 2+ version of the Sixmoons tent. It too is a single skin version so subsequently the condensation froze to inside of the tent and they said they never really got warm and didn’t sleep that great. It’s ‘horses for courses’ on tents and when it gets really chilly 🥶 you can’t beat the warmth holding power of a two wall type. Great video I look forward to the rest of the review… ATB Dave Mc
Thanks for sharing. I have a Tarptent double rainbow Li and so far with it, the condensation isn't too bad. But here in Utah we don't really have that issue. Just mostly expected when sleeping closer to water and the temps drop.
Thanks for the good information!
One thing I like about this over the Duplex: when the door of the duplex is unzipped, it falls on the ground or into the tent, where it is in the way and also vulnerable to damage. The door on the Lanshan opens in a more practical way.
I’ve had my Six Moon Designs Luna Solo for over 10 years now. Still going strong. A little more money, but made in the USA , good stuff !
The price difference is not as great as it used to be. 3f UL tents have doubled in price, partly because people have discovered that they are great tents, and partly because of our incredible inflation in the U.S..
The back side of the lake is so beautiful this time of year.
An amazing place to do a tent review. I also said I'd never buy a trekking pole tent, but then I also went to the 3F UL website and ordered a Lanshan 2 4 season, with delivery tomorrow. What changed my mind is I always trek with poles so why not put them to a 2nd use.
I absolutely love my 1 Pro ! Great tents for the price. I honestly think they are some of the best deals in backpacking as far as light weight tents are concerned. Pretty awesome spot to pitch a tent! I hear ya about trying new things. It's fun. I am sure it will be a condensation monster in the winter.. Nature of the beast. The 1 Pro is.
Six Moons Designs Lunar Solo… works for me. Yes, not a ton of room, some condensation issues, but it’s lightweight and works great in the Sierras.
Right on ! Same here, I’ve used my Luna Solo for over 10 years, including two trips to the Sierras Love it !
For the price it can't be beat!! I just bought a 1 and returned the six moons carbon fiber pole wayyy to flimsy I ordered the aluminum pole hope its stronger I do really want to buy a 2 next such a good budget tent!!😁✌💚
Keep us updated. This things look great for backcountry hunts for those of us on a budget
Regardless of price, a tent labeled as 4 season shouldn't require you to do any seam sealing to make it work; that should be done by the manufacturer.
I ordered the Zpacks 48" carbon fiber poles to go with my Lanshan. Lost the ability to adjust the pitch based on the weather but at 5.2 oz, they are a lot lighter than my trekking poles if I don't feel like taking them.
Keen to see your review on this once you've given it a good go! Been thinking about picking up the 3 season 2 pro.
Great first look. I have the lanshan 1 and have found the same problems. No room and tricky to put up. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it.
For the lines that pull out the bathtub floor at the corners, you may want to replace those with elastic shock cord with a line lock
Yeah, I could never tolerate the Lanshan in a 1p version. At 6', 200 lbs, I just cannot sacrifice livability for a meek weight reduction. It just is not worth the half-pound saved to be miserable.
I love, love, love my Lanshan 2. I have both the net and the solid winter inserts. Condensation is not an issue. The workmanship is superb.
If you are camping at a site that will have dead branches handy, use them to lift the guyouts for the head and foot of the tent. If that is not an option (PCT, CDT, CT, etc.), buy a junk fishing pole for $5, cut it into two poles, insert a sharpened, 1" section of a dowel into one end to allow it to stake into the soil, and use Locktite Xtreme Glue wrapped with thread to secure that dowel. Very, very light. Wrap the line around the pole once, allowing it to fall freely if things start to get too windy, lest it break and rip your tent.
Why do I prefer trekking pole tents? If a pole breaks, I can either fix it with tape/cordage and a splint or replace it with a sturdy stick. If I break a pole on a free-standing tent, I am probably screwed, despite trying to use a supplied repair joint. I avoid platforms because nail heads and splinters might damage the tent floor, so a free-standing tent is less-justified for most Eastern U.S. camping. (No desert sand.)
That stated, my next tent to add to my collection is the true four-season, free-standing Locus Gear DCF E-vent 2p Djedi for trips that only have platform tenting allowed, such as you may see in The Whites.
This tent is single wall, but the (expensive) DCF E-vent material is breathable.
The tent is built for Everest base-camping, but weighs less than 2 lbs. The vestibule is optional.
I would love to see a review on that tent (hint, hint). Nobody has ever reviewed it.
It is probably the most-expensive 2p tent in the world, and I am not rich, but I already have the Locus Gears 4p DCF Khafra mid tent and the quality and weight are fantastic. As long as it is not too hot in the summer (single front door), this would be my preferred through-hiking tent for the AT, if I can get the time next year.
I love your videos.
It’s still got mesh panels where the bath tub floor meets the fly. If you used that in snow spindrift would cover everything inside the tent.
Yeah pretty much guaranteed to have spin drift and get stuff covered. it happened with my GG One.
@@BackcountryExposure the 4 season claims by some tent manufacturers are comedy.
You covered the bases with snow load.
Any mesh should be minimal and definitely at the top. At the bottom and your getting dusted lolz 😆
Not if you since down the tent body. So that there isn’t a gap.👍
@@MeetMeOutside I’ll let you try that buddy. In winter gotta be a real 4 season tent. Capable bearing a snow load & definitely no mesh at bottom.
The tarptent scarp 1 has a massive following in the U.K. ( loads of videos on here)
The hilleberg akto, soulo are real 4 season tent. Compare those to the lanshan. I know what I’d take up a mountain in winter. 🤙
@@BurtReynoldstash OK “ buddy ! I’ve done it, have you ?
Hi - Did you ever do a follow-up video of how it's holding up?
I've been in some mean winter camping conditions and would have been in big trouble with this tent as far as snowfall. Looks nice and light and no a lot of $. Good info!
I wish someone would do a comparison of the lanshan 2p, the durston xmid 2p, and the gossamer the two. Those are the tents I’m currently looking at and can’t decide which one to pull the trigger on. (Note: if I bought the lanshan than I can also buy something like the trial lark 1p which would also be nice to have)
You literally read my mind 😭 I’m currently deciding between these 3 as well! Except the 1P version haha. If you have any comparisons you’d want to share please let me know!
I’ve only owned the XMid 2, but I can vouch for how awesome it is. Can’t wait to buy the dyneema version
@@kaitlineagle5853 I have the pro 1P. It is very easy to set up and stow and store. I've had it up and slept in it in 30-40 mph winds and no issues at all. The ventilation is easy to adjust via pitch height.
I'd love if you could make a video to show how the guy lines work. I can't seem to get mine to work? I'm a newbie, hence the question... I have to agree: It's SPACIOUS!!!
Thanks for the vid!! I'd love to see how it works out for you.
Mate ive had the original one in over 80km hr winds no issues, so dont have statements like that. AS long as you peg good its fine tent.
Lanshan series is solid and tested. I think you had a bad experience with the separated net of the OG 1. All the pro series have no bug inner and are single walled. On their site they also offer a seam sealing service now. I dig my 1 pro and will be doing a review on it soon.
Have you considered doing a review of the new Lanshan 1P now that they have redesigned it and increased the size? I would be interested in knowing if your opinion has changed.
I haven’t. I’ll consider it.
I look forward to a full review!
Cool tent. But I have to ask... WHERE is that? Looks insanely beautiful.
This is Utah Valley, overlooking Utah Lake. The mountains in the background are the Wasatch Range. Timpanogos specifically
Bought the regular Lanshan 2 recently, including both inners - so I can switch to either depending on the season (and also sleep under the stars without the outer, in dry and warm conditions). Have only been using the 4 season inner and it's been working great in below-freezing conditions to keep some extra heat inside the tent. I did have some condensation on the inner tent in the morning, right on the location I was breathing. Expecting that to be a bigger issue for the single walled (pro) version you're showcasing. Hopefully the tent's roomy enough so it doesn't drizzle down on you.
Thanks for sharing. With my height and the tent being plenty long for me, I don't expect it to be too bad here in Utah where condensation isn't ever really a big problem. But still a consideration.
Exactly what I found with my original 4 season Lanshan 2 as well Hans…. A temperature difference of 11C (20F) between outside and inside on a chilly 🥶 night … some condensation but it was manageable…. Still not buying the Pro version …. Sure it saves a few ounces but that’s a price worth paying for comfort! ATB Dave Mc
See my other post about my Lanshan 2 hack.
Great tent!
the pro is not single walled. Its 1.5 walled and condensation is very comparable to the regular lanshan 2
Martin,. the Pro is considered and sold as a single-wall tent. I.e., it does not have a full, two layers of structure. You will get ice forming on the inside that can fall on you, your gear and especially your sleep system if you bump it or rub up against it. The regular Lanshan does not get icy on the inner wall, and I know this from camping in 0° in humid CT on the AT.
Interesting. I have looked at the Lan Shan and Six Moons options for ancillary gear. Thanks for the review.
You bet!
@@BackcountryExposure any experience with Dan Durtstons stuff?
@@dmn3773 very little. I’ve been on trips with friends who have the x mid. I actually tried to get on and place an order today, but apparently the tents sold out in under 2 minutes. Couldn’t even get it into my cart fast enough. So won’t be using that tent in the near future.
@@BackcountryExposure We apparently both tried, same experience, but I am also hoping to get the x-mid 2 pro once it's up for presale. I know someone who has the x-mid 1p and I was sold with its intelligent design.
nice review, thanks. i'm interested in it too. but i am concerned that i am too tall, i am 193cm and do not want to touch on the head or feet end.. what do you think would it still fit? you seem to be on the taller side too..
If the 3 season has the mesh underbody with separate rainfly than I would prefer that over this as this is not a real 4 season tent and is probably prone to condensation. The Hilleberg Anaris which adopts this same style seems to be much more closer to a 4 season tent with a non mesh interior tent with separate rain fly outer. This supposedly eliminates condensation on the inner tent while trapping heat and insulating. I want to see more reviews if the Anaris. I’m still going to buy this tent though haha.
Condensation is the same in a double wall tent but you can't see it
Looks very similar to the SMD Haven bundle and the Duplex. Interesting interior with not as much mesh. Wonder how that will do with condensation!
The Haven is pretty cool and one that I've considered checking out!
I knew you were in Utah County, but you must live right near me if this is 10 minutes from your house. You live in Saratoga? I’ve camped down by an unofficial shooting range that looks an awful lot like that. Love your vids. I also got the exact tent but 3 season. Only used it once in the Unitas in summer. Loved the lightweight, but didn’t love Some of the condensation. It was manageable though.
yeah I am in Saratoga.
@@BackcountryExposure You probably get this all of the time, but if you ever need an extra hand to hold a camera or to help out with a project, I love gear, the outdoors, and am handy with basic video and editing skills.
Hey Devin would you prefer a single wall vs the double version?? I like the idea of separating the fly and inner!!
Single wall and double wall have their individual pros and cons. I got this simply for testing this year to then provide a review on my experience with it. But typically I prefer a double wall, however I've found in my area it's not a big deal to have single wall.
@@BackcountryExposure nice agreed thanks for the response brotha!!(=
Are you going to do a follow up on the Arches 2P tent from Paria?
Does the other door open wide? or it's just its inners that open and not the fly?
I really like my Lanshan 2 but it can be a pain in the Sierra granite / granite sand haha! Seems weird they seam sealed the non pro.
it is double-sided silicone coated, so seam tape doesnt adhere, you have to use sealer which is messy, time consuming and takes up space. Many others with similar fabrics do the same, offer the service as an extra or for you to do it on your own.
Mine has the two wall. Curious on why you choose the single wall tent?
Simply to test and see how the pro version is, and compare it in a way to my experience with the Gossamer Gear The One that I had. That tent was also single wall. Living in Utah it's so dry that we don't have huge issues with condensation, so not overly concerned about that, but still a consideration. I've used the Paria Arches that's a double wall, and very similar design. So just trying something different.
Devin, 4 season doesnt mean snow-load mountaineering tent.
How would you define a 4-Season tent? There is a lot of grey area in the true definition of what a 4-season tent is. Most however would say that a 4-season tent is designed for snow load and protection from extreme weather. IMO, slapping a solid nylon wall on a tent instead of mesh will increase the ability for the tent to retain heat, but disagree that it makes it a 4-season tent.
Interesting. I looked at those before I picked up the Xmid.
As you know, I tried to make an X-Mid happen. One day, ha ha!
@@BackcountryExposure Maybe Thursday? haha
What is all the white stuff on the ground
Happiness! ha ha!
How long did it take to ship?
Ordered it Dec 2, 2021 and it arrived at my house on Dec 13, 2021. Shipped via international express. Not bad for straight from China.
Do you have an update on condensation? Thinking about upgrading from a Lanshan 2 (non-Pro).
Sorry, no update. Condensation is almost never a big issue for me here in Utah anyway. It's so dry that it's always very minimal.
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks. I'm considering waiting for a drop of the X-Mid 2P.
Would love to see a comparison video of the Lanshan 2 Pro vs X-Mid 2P.
those walls without the mesh are going to be toasty.
I love my 3season Pro 2. It’s never let me down. There’s better tents out there but at double or triple the price.
How's the condensation?
I been trying to avoid buying this tent for like a year now lol. We bought the GG The Two when it went on sale and that's my defense right now. haha
I'd say wear out that Gossamer tent before buying this one. They are so similar.
It just a old ridge tent design used 40 years ago
I call single wall tents CF tents, condensation factory tents.
Its a 4 season shelter here in Florida 😆
Someone told me this was a "Chinese Duplex copy" is that true, like did they steal the whole design?
Good designs will always be copied. Not sure this design ever had a patent on it, but once a patent expires, you see a surge of brands releasing similarly designed products all over. Happens in all industries.
There are a bunch of single-wall trekking pole tents of this type. Who knows whose was first.
There are enough American cottage manufacturers that you really don't need to buy from China Inc.
luxe tents are non free standing tents buddy.....
Haven’t used a Luxe tent outside of winter trips for quite a while.
So... I'm sorry I am not interested much at all in the lanshan, pro or not, I couldn't care less... so I was actually pretty much checked out mentally halfway through the vid.
No offence to you personally, love your channel! I just can't respect much this design or anything that calls itself season, is THIS open and pathetic, and doesn't have SEAMSEALED??!! Ohh ffkkk noooo!!!
I much prefer a much more respectable, sturdy and full of features of other tents!
Sorry not sorry
Cool… good thing there are plenty of shelter options to choose from and this isn’t the only option available.
Freestanding China Tent ok but not that Crap here
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I typically loath Chinese products and avoid them. However, 3F UL/Flame's Creed/Meijer tents are excellent.
I’m tossing up, I was literally just looking at this tent. I hate buying cheap and then upgrading later. Do I bite the bullet and buy a tarptent strato, or zpacks duplex, or will this do the job. I hike in the warmer months of the year.
Build quality of this is great. I think the price speaks for itself as well. I think deciding on how important weight is to you will help determine which tent to buy. If weight is most important and money isn't an issue, then a Duplex is the way to go. But this and other options for not much more weight are great too.
Depends what you want it for … if a thru hike I would get the Zpacks duplex…. $700 for an ultra light tent to sleep in for 4 months is a bargain …. If you’re just a weekend warrior with odd multi day trips (like me) then the Lanshan 2 is a great tent for the money. All trekking pole tents do have limitations though… in windy conditions I would opt for a stronger but heavier free standing tent …. It’s all about how comfortable you want to be camping out on the trail… ATB Dave Mc
The Lanshan 2 is fantastic.
I would not recommend the Pro. It needs full sealing, which will increase the weight by about 2 ounces. The regular version comes sealed, needing just several dabs of touch-up. And it is much more practical. I have both inners. Two-wall = no condensation hitting you