PORSCHE tuned Audi RS2 - THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY!
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In this video I spend some time with "the one that got away", the Audi RS2 Avant. By that I mean I never got to own one of these cars and due to their highly inflated prices now, I probably never will.
The RS2 is the genesis of the Audi RS range and is therefore a very significant car. The fact it was made in partnership with Porsche massively adds to its pedigree and has made it an understandably very sought after collectors car.
I was loaned this incredible 3350 mile example for the day by Audi UK to fill in the gap in my Audi RS model experience and I naturally lapped it up . I genuinely didn't expect to want to buy one but you can guess how that worked out...!
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Volkswizard thank you so much for this....and Audi UK. Lovely to see your enjoyment come across in the vid.
Hey Dan! I'm very lucky that Audi UK trust me with cars like this. I can't even get an Up! GTI to film out of VW!
That 5 cylinder sound 🤩
It's very special isn't it? Not shouty, just cultured and 100% authentic, love it!
@@volkswizard, yes indeed!
what a beautiful example of an early RS2.... its practically bran new!! the only thing i would change
is the stereo as that model car came with the top of the range Blaupunkt car stereo cassette player :-)
I actually like turbo lag because of the thrill you get when it kicks in
Defo. Old school all the way. 1.9tdi is like old school Garrett fitted. Lag and boom😀
What a great host. Proper tone, sober and aware to talk about this glorious RS2 as someone that lived that era.
Those young youtubers overreacting and dressed like teenagers are not my cup of tea.
Cheers from Brazil. Actually and fortunately we were the only country to receive them here in America. Thanks to Senna family that represented and imported the brand back in the 90's.
Around 15 years ago I did some work in a garage in Brecon where the owner owned one of these... around 400hp and used like a van..... Same colour....
As Sam said below they weren't worth much back then. In fact B5 RS4 also dropped to under £10k around 8 years ago and they too have rocketed in price. Wish I could think of something like that that's too cheap these days, don't think my Audi A2 (which I use as a van) will go up in price like this!
Andrew, another brilliant and honest video review, many thanks for sharing your dream audi experience with us. The rs2 is a real dream car of mine too, as an enthusiast im really pleased for you to have been given the opportunity to drive this particular one.
I was an avid volkswagen audi car / volkswagen driver reader and collector, such sad news that the publications are no more, but please tell me you didn't forget to pick up that copy of the magazine off the log before you drove off!
Many thanks, Stew
Don't worry Raven master, it's safe and sound! I've owned it for 24 years (along with lots of other copies) hoping one day it would prove useful, it did!
Great car and Great video.. So understated and not many people know what it is and how it started the
' RS' line for Audi . A shame that the parts are becoming so hard to come by now . I'm lucky enough to own one .
I agree. I own one too. Audi Tradition have the most parts, but very expensive.
I had an Audi RS2-96 . Long time ago, The sound from this car in video brings back a Lot of good memories :)
This was the best car I ever owned. I regret selling it :-/
Glad the video has inspired good memories (sorry about the regrets though!)😎
Don't you mean 95'? It was only in production in 94' and 95'.
Hey VIZIN, C M E probably means registered in 96 or 96 model year - the car in this video was registered after 1/8/96 here in the UK (hence why the registration beings with a P)
@@volkswizard Oooh, like that! Gotcha, thank you for the clarification. Lovely video by the way!
Brilliant video Andrew - love this car - my third favourite Audi after the ‘78 Audi 80 Fox (Aussie model with 1.6) and ‘82 Audi 200T I lusted after whilst growing up 😍 and whilst I have never owned one my brother got the Audi bug and has owned an A3 1.8T, A4 2.0 TDI Avant and A5 3.0 TDI Sportback all at same time and still has the A3 with nearly 200,000 km. We all liked VAG cars as positive experience with a VW1500 Type 3 wagon my mother drove/thrashed as kids - she was someone that enjoyed driving with a Mk1 Celica and 2 Alfasuds that followed also ensuring I appreciated cars like the RS2 - affording to own one is a different matter so thanks so much for the video and demonstrating the magic Porsche added :)
Thanks again Malcolm 👍👍
Nice guy and nice video! Never knew about the existence of this car, thanks for the content! The car is simply perfect. The symmetry, the choice and application of materials, it's just so harmonic! And the mechanic, woof! Again, thank you so much =) Cheers from Brazil!
Hey Coimbra, thanks for commenting all the way from Brazil. Glad you learned about this awesome car for the first time. Woof indeed :)
It's strange as a brazilian car enthusiast you didn't know about the RS2. Ayrton Senna's family were the importer of the audi brand in Brasil back in the day and the very first road registered RS2 is in brasil.
I love how u talk about the car.
My neighbor had one blue when I was 16.
I always dreamed of driving it one day.
Did you drive one? If not i hope you will one day :)
@@volkswizard naa sadly not. It was a long time ago 20 years ore so. I drove rs4 b7 and rs4 b8 even R8 all costumers cars so no crazy driving. Saving a little so I can buy a clubsport gti ore a cupra leon
Great video. Brings back memories. I was fortunate enough to be a passenger in one when they were new. I had no idea how fast it was going to be, it really took me by surprise! My current RS5 engine was developed with Porsche, shame they played it down at launch.
Hey Giovanni. I didn't know the RS5 engine was Porsche related, is that the V6 twin turbo? Nowadays Porsche doesn't want to be associated with Audi in such a way much like Lamborghini insists on any links to the R8 are kept 'unofficial' but back then they weren't in a good place financially, how times change!
volkswizard yes, I believe the 2.9 biturbo is used in the Cayenne and Panamera. I think it is pretty amazing engine, however gets very little exposure..
Great video, really enjoyed your review of this car. It's interesting that as manufactures, especially VAG, have put so much work in to eliminating turbo lag and making modern variants drive like they're not turbo cars at all, so enthusiasts have gone back to those older cars and found them more engaging! I also wonder if, being an earlier generation, this is a fair bit lighter than the RS4 you took down the same road?
unixnation eliminating turbo lag makes it more predictable to drive and safer
I remember reading about this car in Performance Car magazine back in the day. Thanks for the video, it really brings back memories and great to hear it's as exciting a car as I hoped it would be!
..and thanks for commenting Matthew👍 I must seek out some of the contemporary reviews as it must have really shook the establishment back in the day - but rest assured it's still hugely exciting today which is a true mark of its pedigree. It's like a Group B rally car compared to the 'Group N' Golf R 😍
Just came across this after watching the JayEmm review around the same date. Wonder what the logic was from Audi UK getting people to drive it? I also have that magazine Andrew, it was just before Audi Driver came out as its own standalone title. A good magazine through the 90's and 2000s. Had my URQ 20v with BRM/Superchips upgrade to 286 bhp with increased
lower down torque from 1700rpm. Took RS2 for drive at local dealer to see difference. Not impressed. It was iconic on launch when I saw it in Audi dealer in Harrogate but driving it...hmmm. The steering is like a boat (I had an 80 Competition V6 and was the same), plus the same Abt white dials. But that 6 speed gearbox and bigger turbo - what hard work, As mentioned, mine (5 speed) pulls from 1700 rpm like a truck esp in 2nd and third but that 6 speed, you have to get it up to 3k rpm and then keep changing. Plus 1st is useless, like the Quattro. The RS4 B5 I subsequently had was far better - sequential turbos, good torque and far better handling. You made the right choice on your B5 Andrew and I would have another one again in a shot (still trying to find mine as it had beige (silver) interior and Piano Black gloss trim.
Audi UK have an awesome heritage fleet and like their car to be exercised by safe pairs of hands. JayEmm did a special Audi series of videos for his birthday and the RS2 was at Audi UK HQ in MK. I can't recall why I was down there, maybe it was especially for this video (you would wouldn't you!) but my drive came about because the car was out of storage for JayEmm.
Weirdly I found the chassis of the RS2 more normal feeling than B5 RS4. I put that down to the ET20 wheels of RS4 (necessary for its wide body) playing havoc with steering feel, much like it would with big spacers fitted. Engine wise though as you say, B5 is incredible
@@volkswizard The B5 did tramline a bit on B roads with worn channels in surface or high centre camber roads but around corners on A roads, there was no comparison. I did touch 260kph in it once on a very fast autobahn bend then remembered all the issues with the soft alloys on launch and thought of the loads so dropped back to a more civilised speed. The RS6 I traded it in for was also spectacular, like an iron fist in a velet glove and that V8 warble. It was the only car my wife ever noticed the performance with ist twin sequential turbos.
The turbo lag was tuned in deliberately to prevent it being quicker than it’s more expensive competitors. It’s a delayed a activation of the turbo and adjustment to wastegate function. It would have been way to fast for the clientele at the time.
Volkswizard it’s not correct that the RS2 is on the same suspension as the S2, the rear suspension was totally different and bespoke design to the RS2. Almost everything is different, mounts, arms, design and geometry.
I used to work on these when they where new at a Audi dealership, loved them then and still do, great car!
P.S the intercooler was slightly different and bigger.
Thanks for a great review. The car was launched when I was in my late 20's and I lusted after one too. I have got over it now thanks in part to my having a couple of 5 cylinder Audi estates during the 90s which I found a bit disappointing, especially the interiors. As an aside, I came to your review thinking the car was a tuned RS2 only to find it was (thankfully) standard.
Glad you enjoyed this one sir! And yes this car 100% stock - whoever messes with one of these needs to be strung up 😁
Hi Andrew, absolutely love this video, and love this car.
I just had a suggestion. I, as I’m sure many others, would be extremely interested in seeing a video on how you wash/detail your cars?
Hi Dave, glad you enjoyed it! Funnily enough, washing/detailing video should happen with Project R8 when I get a break from proper work so stay tuned!
Great!! Looking forward to it :)
I often watch car video's and think, hmmm that would be great to own. This is something I just need to own... I love every bit of it! Especially the engine. Sadly you need a lot of cash to get your hands on one.
Nice one Damian, I get the 'need' too with this one 😍
Wow. Those SEATS!!!
They do set the tone rather, don't they 👌
5 pot sound.... nothing better.
How is the gear ratio? Considering the amount of lag I would think they would make the ratio tighter so that you can manage the power band and keep the turbo spooled. Otherwise I bet it would feel very clunky when pushing it hard through all the gears... such a beautiful car.
I'd say the gearing is indeed quite short as it isn't a car that hits big number without you noticing. Once it's in 'the zone' you can change gear and it remains in the power band all the way to the top of sixth. It's just getting it up to 3500 in normal driving that might provide tiring for drivers not in the mood but when you are it's one of the most engaging experiences I've had behind the wheel ever (on the road anyway) 👍
volkswizard wait...”engaging experiences OFF road” then?....
Ha! Not exactly, chasing Porsches on a track day in a GTI was all consuming mentally so that wins (I did nearly go off the track a few times though 😉)
Fabulous car Andrew. Replaced my S2 coupe with a rather special modded rS2. Guilty of not driving it enough!
Remember reading about this car years ago when it first came out, was outstanding for its time and considered to be one of the best if not best RS audio's of all time
Nice review - the rear reflector is a bit marmite to me and wonder if they had a red interior if the exterior was red or they only came in Blue? Nice work though and great of Audi to let you play with their car
Thanks Stu F. The blue interior was optional, black leather was standard but you possibly could get red alcantara on a red too, hopefully not on a blue one though!
@@volkswizard You could choose from black leather or alcantra, same cost. There were also white alcantara. The car you drove didn't have the electraic aircondition, wich was pretty unusual because the buyers usually did choose al optionals that was. The car was expensive from the start and the buyers usually did afford the optionals.
@@volkswizard In one more thought, I don't think I ever seen the red colour? I think when the car was red, the alcantra was white, like this car: www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Faboutautomotiveblogs.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F09%2Faudi-rs2-avant.html&psig=AOvVaw2I0mZFbiRDeB9L3ruZfoUF&ust=1585315199436000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCND49-CduOgCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAG
Also, the stereo wasn't Sony original, it was a "Audi" tape stereo.
Nice to see a really thorough review of the RS2
Hey Phillip, glad you enjoyed its thoroughness. TBH there is much more to say but time was against me, however glad it did the track for you!
Fab video Mate. Good to see you get to drive one of your dream cars. Mine was the S2 coupe but could never afford one. So ended up with a 2.8 coupe and a 2.6 coupe too. 👍
They were still great cars those Coupes, especially the facelift ones with nicer grilles and lights. I had a couple of convertibles - but don't tell anyone 😉
@@volkswizard 👍
One of most legendary car in the history by both Audi and Porsche. Always want one RHD but they r now very rare.
I love this car!!! ❤Audi❤
You did well to snaffle that, i think even after 25 years one of these would be in my "dream garage".
I can only thank Audi UK for trusting me with it - apparently a chaperone is usually required. Mind you a few years ago at Shelsley Walsh, Top Gear journo Ollie Marriage but a bike on the roof!
My dad had one of these back in the day in green.
Sold it before they shot up in price regret it still to this day.
Andrew, cracking video on a cracking motor.👍
..and thanks again for your cracking support Keith :)
I never knew these existed. What a gorgeous car and well maintained for the year. Lovely
I had that copy of VW Audi Car mag too.
The other story I didn't get into in the video is that I ended up writing for the magazine (well actually Audi Driver magazine which VWAC evolved into). I'd even have written a review of the new RS4 in December 2017 had there not been a lot of snow and I couldn't get to London City Airport for the flight to Malaga (if what's Shmee150's video of that launch you will see he's a bit upset that he got into the car at dusk due to delays).
Volkswizard Been in the same car when i worked for Audi Sport, great period car, huge lag but quick and very usable.
What a car! An all time favourite for sure it was so ahead for it's time.
Yes indeed, the first ever Audi RS and quite probably the best :)
Modern generation won't even know what a b5 rs4 is nevermind rs2. I'm sure I remember seeing one many years ago for about 12k but that was a very long ago
well let's hope this video helps the kids fill in their car history gap as it's a car well worth knowing about👍
Thank you, great video as usual. I never knew these existed tbh👍
Hey David! Thanks for commenting I think only 180 came to the UK and they cost well over £40k in 1995 (much more than the price of a good flat at the time!) so were only of marginal interest back then. Interesting to look back and see what they led too with RS models and the rise and rise of the Audi brand from that car onwards - perfect example of a 'halo 'car' 👍
@@volkswizard Thanks for the reply, 👍quality no nonsense content 👌
Amazing car. Thanks for the video.
It was a pleasure (no, I really mean it, it was) 😎
ICONIC BUS
LOVE IT....
Very nice. I see the tyres have been replaced. Were they 245/40 like the originals? Originals were bespoke Dunlop SP Sport 8000 designed to fit the 7" wide rim. Officially 245/40 but closer to 225/45 in 'normal' size.
Yes Jon, the size is the same. This car ran its original Dunlops for many years but it was decided to replace them recently as it felt to much of a risk to run such a precious car on 2 decades old rubber (8 years is the recommended maximum life of a tyre). It's running Dunlop Sport Maxx now which I assume are as close to the original spec as possible. Tyre technology as come on a lot in the meantime so I have no doubt they are at least as good as the originals. Dunlop was also OEM for B5 RS4, don't see many of their tyres around much these days though curiously.
Awesome car !
Awesome video as usual ...thank you for sharing your passion.
Warm regards
David
Thanks as ever David!
Beautiful car.Great job.
What I would change if had one are alloy wheels for something like BBS type rims..but its a personal taste only.
Thanks for share video and passion.
Thank Kris Kris. I have seen some pics of them on BBS split rims and they look good as most car's do but it would be a bit like putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa :)
RS 2 is perfect , but how about a s2 with a stage 1 and break upgrade , Even faster then the rs2
That's good but it won't be an RS2 - ultimately you can only drive so fast on the road and the RS2 is fast enough but a large part of its appeal is its looks (especially in RS Blue) and what it stands for (a Porsche Audi FFS!). Having said that, a tuned S2 is probably better value for money 😎
@@volkswizard A tuned S2 is indeed a better value for money . But come on now everyone would take the sleeper RS 2 over the sporty looking S2 ( even doe with a chip change (around 50 pounds to a local shop ) you will make around 296 hp with no parts changed )
Aron Sima I did a RS2 engine conversion and upgraded turbo and tune by Dialynx to a couple of S2’sback in the day. Made for a great sleeper with extraordinary performance and traction. They are very noise heavy and will understeer if you don’t drive them well.
But not an RS2
,great review of an Audi legend
One of the best cars/ engines ever built....
Can't argue with that Stefan! Audi & Porsche combining to make a landmark car, can't be anything other than incredible.
Nice review bud 👌🏼
Thanks again Davon, much appreciated :)
A friend had s2 then an rs2.
Epic
car is sick
Thanks Fabio 👍
Excellent review
Thanks Soni, very much appreciated man 👍
Big like
Epic car
Seen this.....?
www.davefoxcars.co.uk/used-audi-rs2-stoke-on-trent-stone-staffordshire-1815984
Audi 5 cylinder > anything else