OST Control - Sankarin Tango (English Subs) - Music Video
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2019
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Music composed by Petri Alanko & Martin Stig Andersen.
Vocals performed by Martti Suosalo
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After finding the English Translation for the Finnish Tango I got a wild idea to set the Sankarin Tango to scenes from all Remedy Titles. This Music Video was thrown together real fast so I hope you all enjoy!
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"in the game this fool is beaten again and again,
but only the moment of rest is given in death" - Dark Souls and Bloodborne players: "Yep, been there and done that, dont worry i got this."
Haha. Yeah it's the story of every hero figure ever. Soulsborne veterans are just, "yeah I got this!"
@@eye776 I guess this is why they haven't released an optimized PC/PS5 version, without the loads we wouldn't have a moment's rest. XD
I played Bloodborne and died countless times.
And Returnal.
Hollow knights approve that
I came from the game award 2019 orchestra.
Seriously that guy had an amazing voice! Glad you swung! Did the game you were rooting for win anything this year?
@@GamingUniversityUoG yes, DMC5, death stranding, and especially Sekiro 😊.
Congrats!
De hecho, yo estaba escuchando a gardel.
Me too
Remedy finally using Finnish lyrics👍👍
Right?! I wish they did it more often.
Yeah i think world is more than ready for Finnish.
sam lake wrote the lyrics for sankarin tango
In the mystery's depths he spent his life... ...Alone the hero travels deeper into the night... ...
It's easy to die like a hero, it's difficult to live like one.
There is a reason old Heroes are the most venerated. Most die young. But those who have been to hell and come out the other side bring back a new perspective on the world. One that, according to the Heroes Journey, they pass on as well.
Anyone can be a hero by circumstance. Not many will put in the effort or accept the risk to become one. ;)
After playing a significant amount of alan wake 2 (haven't finished it yet) this song hits differently. IYKYK
I found Ahti humming this when Alan met him. Seems like this tune will never die
@@GamingUniversityUoG also it appears while casey drives with his girlfriend in yoton yo movie
I think people are stupid, most people havent if 100% completed Alan Wake 1 why waste money on alan wake 2? You did not get your moneys worth from the first game.
Underrated comment!
the verse
"in the game this fool is beaten again and again,
but only the moment of rest is given in death"
referencing the Events of alan wake american nightmare where mr. scratch trapped him in an "unbeatable" cycle and in perspective of scratch the only way of getting free of it was to die
That is definately a possibility as well. I feel that this song is written on multiple levels. Directly making reference to Alan and Max but also the recurring cycle of the Hero Archetype.
I think it could also be a very meta reference to Max Payne: his games are much harder then the other Remedy titles, requiring a good amount of trial and error to pass certain combat encounters.
@@GamingUniversityUoG just like most of the games in the remedy verse touches on how reality has multiple layers
and also to the fact they die and die and die repeatedly in game but they are never able to rest for real, they respawn everytime because they are trapped inside.
I love how the lyrics match the different games/AWE.
I was surprised when I found this translation. It was a nice little Easter egg for fans who played the previous games.
"This hero has a thousand faces" That is a direct reference to the Hero's journey and how these games follow it.
"In the game the fool is beaten again and again" That would be the player, who represents the Fool card. In other words, beginnings, innocence (doesn't know the game world, divine guidance (by the game's design) and not always wary of the dangers he is taking the character towards.
That is a pretty cool meta commentary. It shows how the Hero's Journey doesn't need to be explicit (like it was in Horizon:Zero Dawn) and about the unusual nature of players allows them to have unusual roles in these crafted worlds.
Absolutely! Thank you for the comment. 'The hero has a thousand faces' also refers to Joseph Campbell's book, 'The Hero with 1,000 Faces' which is a commentary and comparitive theology/mythology across various cultures. Granted he defined the Heroes Journey so it's all interrelated. I plan to incorporate Tarot philosophy into my future essays on this channel but didn't think to assign Key 0 to this one. Thanks for the insight!
Question, because of how the Cube of Space is structured, which character in these stories represent Key 9: The Hermit and which represent the yapping dog in Key 0: The Fool? In AW I'd say Thomas Zane is the Hermit and Barry Wheeler is the dog, barking at him to keep him grounded and avoid stepping off the cliff.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I haven't played Alan Wake yet, so I am not sure. But in control I think Polaris is the dog, keeping Jessie from falling to the Hiss.
However, I believe that game is more about the Jungian psyche. The Astral is the Inner World, the Oldest House is the barrier between it and the Outer World (hence if anything inside the bureau adheres to an archetype, the "ideas" can anchor themselves into this world using them). The Board is the Superego, the Hiss is the Shadow, the Director is the Ego and Polaris is like a Daimon. The other dimensions and their overlaps are like sympathetic/emotional links.
I think Darling is the hermit, isolated, possesing vast knowledge of the secrets of the world, yet very prone to being charmed by the moon (hence his lunacy at the end of the game).
Regarding symbology, I would like to recommend a tabletop game called Mage The Awakening 2ed. The setting has magic as the Truth outside Plato's Cave, with mages being those that escaped for the briefest moment and learned how to draw on those symbols to warp reality. It uses a mix of Theory of Forms and Archetypes to create an absolutely fascinating world. Each mage Path is an archetype (shaman, enchanter, necromancer, thaumaturge or warlock) and have tarot correspondences.
Actually now that I think about It I have a different character for the Hermit in Alan Wake. If you play it you can find it easily with the symbols alone.
One translation for a Djinn is the 'Genius of the House'. The Genius/Genie/Djinn referring to the higher self and the House being the container in which we reside. Hence we 'House' the genie in the bottle. Not sure if it's related or not thematically, just interesting. But yes it feels like the Oldest House is an unfiltered threshold of Jungian reality. They drop his name like candy in the story so it's obvious where their influences were.
The Board is interesting from the inverted tetrahedron symbolism. The tip being the receiver from cosmic energies from below and translating the info to the top face of the pyramid representing the manifest world. Aka the board translating unconscious energies & Jungian forms and attaching them to the one bound to the OoP.
Its fascinating how much Jung and Campbell are in Remedy stories. In This House of Dreams and Quantum Break they mention Campbell's Monomyth by name.
Ohhh cool!!
Hmm, what do you mean not explicit like in HZD??
Horizon: Zero Dawn stuck to the standard heroes journey closer than Control did. At least in narrative presentation.
The Call to Action & Supernatural Aid is the Focus and desire to learn the nature of Aloy's parentage.
The mentor is Rost. After being putting Aloy on the Journey, Rost is killed. This is similar to Gandalf being removed from Frodo's story, Obi-Wan killed before Luke, and Dumbledore killed before Harry.
In Control there is no direct Mentor. While Dr. Darling and Ahti can arguably fill the role, their guidance was always tangential.
The Finnish language seems mysterious even for us Russians ) It's a very beautiful language, I have inspired by it!!!
I have been trying to push myself to learn it. Languages have always been hard for me though.
Я русский, и как тот кому Английский язык даётся легко могу сказать- Финский не так уж и сложен, как минимум после изучения финского алфавита.
И первым делом что я решил изучить так это маты.
@@kirill-shevsenovichenkoperkele!
@@nadezhdaversh vittu
@@kirill-shevsenovichenko The most difficult part is how you "bend words" it can be hard when there are like 15 different versions of the same word.
In case anyone's wondering about the word 'narri' in the refrain, with its very prominently rolled R's, it means 'fool'/'jester'.
In my experience, word pronunciation in older Finnish pop songs tended to be more exaggerated, more theatrical, because many early Finnish singers/film stars had their background in theater, where it's really important to enunciate your words clearly for the audience. I think Martti Suosalo was trying to imitate this earlier singing style with his performance, which was a nice attention to detail. And sure enough, the song sounds like something you could have heard in the early to mid 1900s.
Really interesting. I know nothing if the language itself or pronunciations so that is cool to learn about. Thanks! This translation I found in reddit.
Ставь лайк если перешёл сюда по совету Металиста
По зову сердца
по зову металиста XD
Конечно
Ничего себе. Бывают же открытия. Никогда бы не подумал, что финская песня сможет зацепить.
This definitely proves all Remedyverse games are connected.
I'm excited to see where the Remedyverse goes next.
Is max payne included?
He is slowing down time
Песня шикарная. Привет от зрителя Менталиста)
Мятно листа
I literally can't stop hearing this music.
I hum it to myself when doing housework sometimes.
Hiss
You know, I only now realised that Sankarin Tango and Take Control actually spoil the game before you finish it. Both of them are before the hedron defense segment, and yet they still foreshadow the Jesse's hiss takover and escape from it's control. It is late, but still a spoiler.
Poet & The Muse, Balance Slays the Demon, and Children of the Elder God do similar things as well. Control just makes it easier because we can play it back in the collectibles menu where in the others you couldn't without the OST.
They do a bit but also the lead to a bigger mystery. Sankarin Tango is about the Remedyverse at large, Ahti's mindset and Take Control i question why the Anderson Brother's were writing a song about Ordinary and Jesse.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Well, it's because, in universe... it's all occurring In Universe. Alan Wake lore shows that the water from Cauldron Lake, when used in their Moonshine, provides fairly accurate visions of events, past, present but distant, or even future. The Andersons are theorized to be "Friends" with Ahti (As all three may be 'avatars' or representatives of gods), hence him having a tape of "Take Control".
In Control, if you look, it's revealed that EVERYTHING Alan Wake but American Nightmare are confirmed as to occuring in the same Universe as Control (till Alan was no longer In said universe, though he does still touch it and affect it).
Thus, by a lore stand point, it makes sense that the Andersons may of viewed the Original Ordinary AWE, the events in the Oldest House during Control (and in the Oldest House's Foundation), and a glimpse that something might be happening in Ordinary once again. (Dovetailing into the Foundation DLC and the future Alan Wake Experience {AWE} DLC)
@@QuestionDeca Absolutely. Odin had the gift of prophecy after cutting his own eye out in Mythos. Similar things here.
Металист,да?
Параутилитарист, да?
I really like how you wove together footage of the Remedy games and their protagonists. (And Ahti of course, gotta have Ahti in there.) I like how the music is acting like a connective glue, with its multi-layered references. There's obviously the bit about finding rest in death, before being brought back to continue. A clear reference to the players of the games, but potentially to Alan from Alan Wake, with death being the only escape Mr. Scratch intended to give him and Jesse Faden, with how she repeatedly died after being overtaken by the Hiss, in her mind. The mistaking an ocean for a lake is obviously calling back to the Thomas Zane quote from Alan Wake, regarding Cauldron Lake and the Dark Place located therein. The lyrics following all connect to Alan wandering in the depths of the Darkness and trying to escape back to the real world and his wife. However he was forced to wander into the night, into the dark place to keep it contained and away from her, bearing the burden of being its captor on his shoulders.
The fact the burden is always there, likely references Alan's failed attempts to leave the Dark Place prior to AWE. But it can also reference the burden of the other protagonists. Jack Joyce in holding back and preventing the end of time. Jesse in finding/saving her brother and leading the Bureau. And even Max Payne with the burden of his family's death. Time shattering and the gunshot are clear references to events in Quantum Break, which you demonstrated in the visuals you chose.
'He will never get a happy ending' seems most applicable to Alan Wake, Thomas Zane, Max Payne and arguably others, such as Trench or Paul Serene. Director Trench was never able to seek out a happy existence outside of the Bureau, due to the Board. And later the Hiss's corruption of his mind. Payne never finds happiness, even after killing the ones responsible for the death of his family. It doesn't really make his life any better. Both Thomas Zane and Alan Wake end up trapped in the Dark Place Threshold/Dimension.
The next set of Lyrics speak of the heroes journey, referring to how it's seemingly hopeless. But they must press forward, alone into the night. Because the heroes are the only ones suited to bear the burden that would crush others. And it's always going to be there, they have to roll up their sleeves and simply go for it. Even if they're destined to get beaten down over and over, the hero is the one that can carry the burden and get back onto their feet, until they succeed.
Just my best summary of the songs lyrics.
The brilliance of this tune is that there are two layers to the lyrics and presentation. Yes it can apply to a video gaming experience and has allusions to all the Remedy heroes.
But it applies to the Hero archetype in general. In every age a hero must rise to beat back the wave of chaos. Even if they are successful, chaos can never be defeated for long so in a certain sense they are beaten. Each new face is a new hero who rises in a new age. One Archetype wears these faces throughout the eons.
The never get a happy ending might refer to Quantum Break, Remedy lost the rights for It. It will never have a sequrl
дай угадаю, сейчас ты удивляешься тому, что довольно много русских посмотрело данное видео. Слава Ебеньграду и Металлисту!
Слава Ебеньграду, слава Вульфу
Here after seeing Ahti singing in Alan Wake 2🤩
Haha nice!
Beautiful... remedy is truly underrated and niche and fringe and beautiful.... I love the story of the heroes tale woven into a song which fits as a theme for the remedy verse ( the cosmic ocean)
The way Remedy weaves together their storytelling makes me wish we had more writers of this ilk these days. They channel the Bards of old and I love it!
Or fits any game where the hero dies and is respawn :)
Just like Finland in general.
This video is amazing and it truly references all their games, most likely sharing a universe. I love this song, and Remedy is awesome, and you're awesome too!
Remedy is incredible! It amuses me that Ahti is humming this tune throughout most of the game, knowing how all the pieces pit together apparently.
I'm glad you found this and you're awesome too!
Before learning about the Hero's Journey in this channel, I had always thought the lyrics about the hero having a thousand faces were just referencing Quantum Break: Jack tries countless times to fix the past, creating thousands of timelines = telling the same story over and over again with a thousand faces. Glad to have a deeper understanding of the lyrics now. :)
I love how this tune sums up every Remedy hero and Hero in general across all literature.
Ahti the janitor is a friendly face in my book
I can’t believe I’ve gone this long without seeing this translation. Thank you for this!
Да, да Металист.......
Okay, here's a silly thing I just noticed when I clicked 'play' on this video: I know it's some sort of buckle, BUT, Ahti has what looks like a white/silver triangle on his belt line, facing UP. It shines in the dark, so I feel like you're meant to catch it. And it reminds me of the gold haircomb from the end of the game.
Imo, this is a jab at a Board, the inverted Black pyramid/triangle.
"The hero has a thousand faces, and a hopeless path forward"
boy that could describe the plot of a lot of games if you think about it...not just remedy games (even though that one line describes their plots to a tee, but i love em anyway)
This line, (and song) is mostly in reference to the Heroes Journey so it can apply to any hero in literature. Hero with a Thousand faces is a book by Joseph Campbell that breaks down the Heroes Journey.
@@GamingUniversityUoG neat...i'll have to find a copy! but really...it's things like this song and games like Control which make me wonder why anyone would think video games aren't art....because they are...im probably preaching to the choir here, but to think there are people who think video games are a "stupid waste of time" blows my mind
@@brianmahony7919 Same here. That's part of my motivation for this channel is to showcase how Video Games can be a form of Literature and Art when done properly. If anything, some games are superior than most movies coming out these days.
@@GamingUniversityUoG well im very glad your channel exists and that you're doing your best to spread that positive message! :D
Wow this makes the games so much more tragic and heroic. The hero battling evil always fated to die, but never given the peace they deserve. Onward the hero fights because that is all they can do.
I have conflicting emotions on it. The eternal struggle with no end but if no one fought the wave would wash everything away.
I love the subtle layers of this song.
Вы тоже от металиста пришли?
хэй, Металисты, зацените лорные видео по вселенной Ремеди здесь на канале, они очень классные)
я здесь давно, и вот сегодня смотрел видос Металиста и увидел ссылку на это видео и обрадовался)
I like that they directly reference the 1000 faces, from The Monomyth
I loved seeing that when I found this translation. Read and reread hero with 1,000 faces so many times
I don't know why, but i just cry from this song. It's so beautiful, so graceful, but also very sad.
I agree. Such an emotional tune that has an underlying subject matter that is very relevant.
@@GamingUniversityUoG yes, i agree with you. Even if I'm not professional, but music is about feelings, and this song makes goosebumps
Beautiful, OMG this was awesome, between the nostalgia of the video and the awesome track is a very nice match. Well done
Thank you! Luckily Alanko and Anderson worked so well together on this music. Martti Suosalo's vocals were divine. They made imagery that was so easy to follow this video came from it.
Thank You for this piece of Art! Great Work!
I really enjoyed how this turned out too! You're very welcome and thank you for taking the time to let me know your thoughts on it.
Very nicely done! This is going into my favorites.
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate the support. If there is any other music you think could use similar treatment let me know.
I only discovered this now. So good! Brilliant work.
Glad you found it and enjoyed! Thanks!
Спасибо мятому глисту за то что посоветал эту песню
Very well done capturing the core meaning of the lyrics and showcasing matching narratives in their games. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's not a loop...
Never a loop
It's a spiral
Fantastic video and editing, great job, absolutely loved it!
Thank you for the feedback! After I found the english translation I knew this was something i wanted to make.
@@GamingUniversityUoG And thank you for doing so ^^ Watched it 5 times already
Sooo good. Thank you for your job!
You got it!
Lyrics Finnish:
"Järveks' luulin merta kerran", runon lausui hän
Mysteerin sen syövereissä vietti elämän
Alla synkän valtameren varjoiss' vaeltaa
Etsii tietä valoon, luokse armaan, ainiaan
Yksin sankar' yöhön syvemmälle matkaa pois
Se taakka hänen harteillaan kuin lupaus aina ois
Täss' pelissä tää narri lyödään maahan aina vaan
Vaan hetki kuoloss' lepoo suodaan, jo takas kutsutaan
Aika särkyy, ikuisuuteen laukaus kajahtaa
Ei onnellista loppua hän kohtaa milloinkaan
Niin monta kertaa kerrottu tää tarina jo on
Sankarilla tuhat kasvoo, polku lohduton
Yksin sankar' yöhön syvemmälle matkaa pois
Se taakka hänen harteillaan kuin lupaus aina ois
Täss' pelissä tää narri lyödään maahan aina vaan
Vaan hetki kuoloss' lepoo suodaan, jo takas kutsutaan
Täss' pelissä tää narri lyödään maahan aina vaan
Vaan hetki kuoloss' lepoo suodaan, jo takas kutsutaan
Thank you!
This game/Games are a masterpiece/impeccable
I fully agree.
Кто от Металиста?
Мятный Лист просто гений пиара
Ееее
I wish I could like this again every time I come back to listen to it
The song is incredible. I come back to this one on occasion too.
Thanks for the translation and stringing the stories together, it was really helpful.
Also, are you planing on ever covering the ashtray maze. I’ve been looking but as far as I can tell, no one is talking about how Jessy never actually bound the Object of Power and the Anderson brothers basically used Cauldron Lake to write her way through.
You got it!
And for the Ashtray Maze I'd really have to think how to present it. I do intend to do all of the OoPs and Altetrd items at some point so the Ashtray and Cigarette could crossover into the Maze.
Hello from metalyst, and lyrics is excellent
Hello there! Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@@GamingUniversityUoG yes, i'm enjoyed, i love remedy's games, and this video foe me is excellent (Sorry for my english, i am from russia)
Ahti, what is he, why is he here, and what is he capable of?
From what I learned he is a god that is keeping everything in check and preventing everything from getting too out of control
In Finnish mythology Ahti is god and keeper of waters.
Bravo! Great lyrics, wonderful performance!
The voice actor did amazing work with the song! He put a lot of soul into it.
@@GamingUniversityUoG That he did! :)
Never saw the song meaning, holy.... the alan wake content has been cooking up since development
As soon as I found the translation I was flipping out as well. Ar the time I hadn't played Started Max Payne but there are references to him as well.
Makes me really wonder more about Ahti if he sings this nonstop in reference to the other Remedy Heroes.
@@GamingUniversityUoG ahti could be more than we saw in the game
He most certainly is.
For some reason I cant stop myself from comparing Control with Persona(especially Persona 5). In both games the unaware hero falls into a rabbit hole of hyper reality, fight for what they believe it's the good even if it comes to the contrary of the global opinion ( unconscious) and in the end they break free of the even the hyper reality's rules and put the higher powers into question.
Edit : Let's all vote Jesse for a new persona game protagonist :P
Lmao absolutely! She is our director in all this weirdness.
I've honestly never played any Persona if you can believe it. I hear how amazing it is though.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Oh and 2 things I forgot, so I add them here
1) the protagonist's code name is the Joker and the Arcana that represents his relationship with his mentor figure is the Fool. Also this mentor figure is a strange force that instead of janitor he is the jailor trying to rehabilitate the prisoner/protagonist
2 ) there is an extradimentional entity that hides at the deepest end of the global unconscious ( in persona you kinda can go into psychological terms like it's a place in a way) humming to people to deny their free will for an easier life and where it goes the space is getting corrupted.
Great vid, mate :)
Thanks buddy!
So an official translation just came out in the description of Remedy's live recording of this song, and the English lyrics are quite different to what this video suggests.
It seems like the first half is Alan Wake, but the second half sounds more like it's about Max Payne. (At least imo)
Great video and editing though!
I'm just finally playing through Max Payne do I'll likely get a better understanding later. Frankly it would make sense thematically to keep Payne in it. QB always felt disconnected from the test of the Remedy series.
Thanks for the info. I just checked it out. It looks like the same tone and story within the lyrics, some of the phrasing is a bit different. All things considered the individual whom I borrowed this translation from did a pretty good job.
Some of the context is a little different but it lines up relatively well. I knew this version would be outdated eventually but I enjoyed making it!
@@GamingUniversityUoG No worries! I actually like some of the lines in your video more than the official translation :P
QB definitely feels less included, I've heard Sam Lake only partly did the writing for it, so maybe that's why it hasn't been nearly as involved.
Imagine in alan wake 2 ahti shows up and calls you his assiant
Dude I would lose my shit if that happened!
@@GamingUniversityUoG ahti "you ruined my holliday you perkele you are going to help"
Nice quote in the end!
Thanks! I thought that summed up the theme perfectly.
So knowing Finnish gives a few spoilers. I wondered how many spoilers i was getting during the ashtray maze scene, there was one big one that i heard but when i bought the song it plays in order and tells you a lot of the story. Now i want this song too
I've listened to both the Ashtray Maze cut and Full cut of Take Control and it looks like they cut up the in game one to avoid most of the spoilers unless you actually go to multimedia and play it. Sankarin Tango is on the OST for Control. Enjoy! They are both incredible tunes. I love how Remedy weaves PotF music with their games.
Spoilers,.................
.............During the game, i only noticed "Polaris living now inside of me". I haven't reversed it yet to hear the back masked audio
Spoilers....
So there are 3.
One says "And now we call it firestar, rushing on to the Red Room. Find the cord to take you to a secret rendezvous.
The second is "A diamond will tell you where 1, 19, 7, 1, 18, 4, 9, 19." Those numbers line up with 'Asgard is'. So "A diamond will tell you where asgard is."
The last one is weird. "In their drunken fear state, seeing double, profoundly, the pyramid in the stolen file becomes a spruce tree."
@@GamingUniversityUoG awesome. Although the old gods of Asgard are people of power, maybe those songs are incantations provided by the board. Jesse's sounds like old gods because she found her dad's album and it would be a sound she likes. They seem to provide mind clarity for both of them
The old Gods of Asgard are characters from Alan Wake. Have you played that game?
I enjoyed that Jesse's dad had old gods albums. Since the Old Gods know Ahti I'm curious about the nature of their relationship.
I won't say more in case you haven't played AW but they do state where their power comes from in that one.
Easily one of the best supporting characters in a game, the (almost) omnipotent janitor
Absolutely. It always marks a good character when the fans want to learn more about them.
The goddamn hero archetype, is it and AWE that latches on to people like a parasite turning people into the archetypal hero. To move the story along which itself could be an AWE.... and AWE within and AWE...
Hero Archetype and the Monomyth. It is everywhere and specifically Alan qake make reference to it. His book is called Departure after all.
God dammed beautiful
Thank you! Remedy made a great song I could use for it.
That's how you combine three games even if you only have the rights for two of them^^
I really hope Remedy will be able to get the rights back for Quantum Break. Stupid Microsoft
Same here. I swear I need both Emily Pope and William Joyce having a science nerd off lol.
5 or 6 years from now we'll all be like "remember that time remedy created one of the best collective Universes in gaming only losing to Shin Megami Tensei?
Seriously I can't wait to see what this series looks like in 5 years. Seeing it all unfold will be amazing!
I absolutely will do!
But only a moment of rest in death is given, already having to return....
quite hard to understand. maybe i should play the game.
The official translation that just recently came out has the line as, "Only a moments rest in death before he is called back again."
It references the Hero Archetype as well as the protagonists within Remedy games.
@@GamingUniversityUoG thanks, now i can slightly understand the meaning :)
finished
maybe i should play alan wake to feel the thing more accurately
yeah playing Alan Wake made this thing's lyrics very clear. Cleary this song was a story of Alan Wake.
*It's not a lake. It's an ocean.*
playing remedy games just to understand one good song? It was very nice experience for me :)
Lyrics match to well with Alan Wake
I believe they were intended to. Sam Lake wrote these lyrics and they tie in the stories of all Remedy's protagonists in one tune.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Interesting
@@GamingUniversityUoG Sam Lake claims that every game since Alan Wake has more or less been a recycling of ideas for the next Alan Wake game. So I think instead of not being able to make the next AW, they've made a shared universe that involves him heavily. Wouldn't be surprised (if) we get another game where he has powers similar to other Remedy characters
Michael Moorcock's mega-series _The Eternal Champion Cycle,_ consisting of more than thirty or forty novels, perfectly summed up in three minutes and thirty seconds.
Michael Moorcock you say? Interesting considering he is directly referenced in other Remedy Games.
So ahti is singing about alan wake in control?? Wtf??
More singing about the general idea that a heroes journey is never over. Even if they fall, the archetype of the hero continues in another person. Some of it for sure had to do with Alan and Max Payne.
Those lyrics are not the most accurate ones, IMHO, I would have translated it like this.
Englis lyrics: Heros Tango
"I once mistook the ocean for a lake," a poem did he recite
Mystery, in its depths, where he spent his life
Underneath, gloomy ocean wast, in its shadow he wanders
Searching for his way to light, to be with his beloved, forever
Alone, away, the hero travels deeper into the night
That burden on his shoulders, as if it was always promised
In this game that fool is beaten, to the ground all the time
Only in his death, he finds a moment of rest, before he is called back
Time shatters into eternity, shot thunders
Never will he meet a happy ending, ever
So many times before has this story being told
The hero with a thousand faces, a path without solace
Alone, away, the hero travels deeper into the night
That burden on his shoulders, as if it was always promised
In this game that fool is beaten, to the ground all the time
Only in his death, he finds a moment of rest, before he is called back
In this game that fool is beaten, to the ground all the time
Only in his death, he finds a moment of rest, before he is called back
Thanks for posting. It was interesting to look through your take on it. It looks similar to the one I used. I've watched enough anime and played enough japanese based games to know translations can be subjective, the syntax and diction varying a bit between translations.
I do always enjoy seeing how others translate it though. I remember the time I transliterated Ovid's Metamorphosis from Latin and got more out of it than the official published version. With different perspectives we can get more out of the same material.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Did you mean translated Ovid's Metamorphosis? Transliterated means you need to change the text from another writing system, like from Greek or Cyrillic letters to Latin letters, for example - aka it's 'translettering' :) Well, if it's a writing system with not letters like from Chinese or Japanese characters, transcription may be a better term.
Came here again because Control 2 is happening.
The first line should go "Once, I mistook an ocean for a lake" not "Once, I once mistook a lake for an ocean"
Yeah I put it in backwards. Entirely my bad here.
ALAN LIVES!
Alan Wake Up!
Oh how interesting ... that explains alot actualy.
As soon as I found this translation it made so much sense why Ahti would always be humming/singing this.
I think the first line should be "mistook an ocean for a lake" and not the other way around.
Actually you would be correct. Guess I didnt proofread the translation I found. Thanks for pointing it out.
I find amazing that this song is a direct reference to Alan Wake
PERKELE
Hope this means AW2 is going to be in development
I hope we get it eventually. Sam Lake posted on social media he was writing something new. Most likely it is Control DLC stuff. No clue. At the very least I think we will get more AW content I the Control DLC. They already set it up to Include him in the story.
@@GamingUniversityUoG yeah it would be great if we get more info on the sequel on the AWE dlc, on a side note I hope control wins game of the year, I've been a fan of remedy since max Payne and they don't always get enough credit for their amazing games.
I would absolutely love it if Control won GOTY. They already won Critic's Choice and even the amount of nominations they received shows what a gem they have created. Remedy deserves to be in the limelight and I hope this brings in news fans.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Fingers crossed, but you have to admit that the ending of control kind of sucks though.
@@GamingUniversityUoG well we know the foundation was not written by Lake , it's lead writer is Clay Murphy (a great writer from the remedy team who has worked alot with Sam Lake) so hopefully Sam Lake is writing the AWE dlc and AW2 afterwards
Alan Wake and Control are in the same universe and they did not even bother to hide it. So basically Control is Alan Wake 2.
Some of us predicted it. But in a sense yeah. I'd call Control an Interquel between AW and AW2
Hmm it's probably not all that relevant honestly, but this translation does lack one element: "jo takas kutsutaan" implies that someone is calling or summoning the hero back. Jo (already) takas (back) kutsutaan (is being called/summoned).
Okay cool! Yeah I sadly don't know the language at all and the official translation hadn't been released at the time o made this. I found a really good translation on reddit which is what I used for this. Thanks for the comment!
@@GamingUniversityUoG Oh so an official translation exists :D I feel silly for pointing this out then. I meant no offence, I liked the video, I just wanted to make sure the detail doesn't go unnoticed.
@@EchoInTheKettle Yeah! There was a behind the scenes video of Martti Suosalo recording this song somewhere on RUclips. Trust me no offense taken at all. All I want at the end of the day is to have the best information possible for everyone and myself as well.
Bring back my boy Alan Wake
Absolutely! We must save our boy!
After you're done reading House of Leaves, I'd recommend checking out Night Mind's videos on the subject... theres's a lot I missed my first few times that he pointed me to
I'll definitely make sure to do that. Thanks for the tip!
Sam recommended House of Leaves, right? How did you like it?
@@MrAatami no, I recommended it
This song was already great, and it's even cooler with the good images put onto it. The Remedy games are masterpieces of storytelling, in my opinion :)
2:18 : That's Max Payne, right ? If it is, it's even cooler ^^
Yeah that's Max Payne! I hadn't played that game at the time of making this so I didn't have any video assets to include unfortunately. This was my middle ground.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Okay that's cool of you to include him. Seeing how important this hero and this game franchise are to a lot of people ^^
May the war against entropy last forever
It is going to be a push and pull forever.
this song fits with project zomboid, all of the heroes have their own story, their own identity, yet they all meet the same fate, some encounter the hero before them and eventually end up the same as the ones before them
el tango argento!!!
Eso es el tango finés derivando del tango argento, argentino
- u simplemente: tango :)
METALYST
The melody resembles the song 'Quizás, quizás, quizás' (Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps)
Just listened to it. Lovely tune.
I can't help but notice how much this reflects the overarching plot to Legend of Zelda........
Curse of demise definitely sounds like this yeah.
Because journey of hero is always the same.
We need an Alan Wake 3
We absolutely do! I'll settle for an announcement on the AWE expansion for now since it will involve Alan in some way.
Металист- лучший пиарщик
The Board enjoys\approves
I/We appreciate/enjoy this comment/tattoo of symbols.
There is no any other language like Finnish.
I need to learn it one of these days. Not just the few odd words I've picked up playing this game.
does anyone know the name of the guy who sang Control's song on TGA?
I've been looking around and it's harder to find his name than I thought sadly. I'll let you know if I find it. I got chills when he walked out and started singing at TGA
I just found it. His name is Jan Simons according to the source I found.
@@GamingUniversityUoG haha you are a god Thanos❤❤❤❤
@@GamingUniversityUoG Martti Suosalo www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000006344286.html it's in finnish, but.. Face of Ahti.
It's cool they got him to do the face and voice for Ahti.
did i just miss every max payne cut?
No I didnt have any Max paybe footage when I made this. I honestly hadn't played the game at the time. So I just included a wallpaper of him.
0:22 - According to the translated lyrics posted by Remedy in the description, it's "mistook an ocean for a lake"! - ruclips.net/video/VsszQXdoGpE/видео.html
I noticed the discrepancy after I posted this up unfortunately. This is based on a fan translation I want to say maybe a year before the official translation from Remedy released it. Hindsight and all that.
@@GamingUniversityUoG "mistook an ocean for a lake" also fits better regarding the narrative you presented in one of your videos, where Cauldron lake connects to a larger ocean of darkness or something like that! (Sorry if I mixed it up too much)
I fully agree. My OCD is killing me about it too lol. Dont know how I let it go through without noticing.
Where is the Calliope line from? I love it and I want to look to the source.
Umm... might have to wait a bit lol. So Calliope is a fictional character I made for the channel and ended up using in a novel I'm working on. The surname 'Odigos' means Guide and Calliope is the Greek Muse of epic Poetry. So I use her as a Poet who is the Guide of Epic Literature such as these Remedy Stories.
All my other quotes are from real sources but anything I attribute to Calliope is me talking. Sorry for the let down!
@@GamingUniversityUoG No worries, that is really cool. It resonated with a lot of themes I write about. I just finished Control last night and fell in love with, well, everything about it. Cheers and Subscribed.
I absolutely love Remedy's work too.
What kind of stuff do you write about? If these are similar themes then your work sounds interesting.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I'm a writer and (Tabletop) game designer, a lot of themes I do deal with being aware of Archetypes and bringing the Epic in to normal lives. So Remedy has been hitting it out of the ballpark for me since the beginning.
where to find lyrics???
I found a few translations for this tune on Reddit. After seeing how relevant it was to all Remedy games I felt obliged to share this one.
I posted the Finnish lyrics in another comment if you're looking for those too.
4 words OH MY F@#KING GOD!
I'm having Phil from Hercules flashbacks lol. That's 4 words!
Thank you though!
What’s the name of the other games in the video
The first one is Alan Wake, who makes an appearance in Control. If find the panopticon cell with the typewritten page you'll get that scene with him. He also is the focus of the Bright Falls AWE.
He also will be involved in the AWE dlc.
The second one is Quantum Break.
Alan wake, Alanwake American Nightmware, Quantum Break, oh and Max Payne
The red light at 0:35, could it be the Hiss 👀
God I hope not. We don't need the Dark presence and Hiss teaming up.
@@GamingUniversityUoG AWE DLC.... that's probably exactly what's going to happen.
@@QuestionDeca A viral resonance and an Eldritch entity...not fun
OH MY GOD :0