Great video. This deserves more views. Unfortunately, the vast majority of BJJ places do ground techniques. Many BJJ places don't even do takedowns. Modern BJJ is great, but it is far from complete self-defense, which is just sad. I would love to be able to train at your guys' school.
The best thing to do is to go to a traditional judo school, not Olympic sport, judo, traditional, judo school. We will learn to stand up and ground fighting from there. You can transition into Brazillian or Gracie jujitsu.
Thank you for posting, I teach Bujinkan Ninjutsu and Samurai Jujutsu, we share a very common training ancestery. I also train in the Gracie University program.
I’m not a troll, but I’m very into authentic history. People take your time to understand the history that was not available to the public doing the UFC craze of Brazilian jujitsu. I’m going to name some worthy elders in this history for everybody to research to the bank a lot of things that was not mentioned in this video Certain things I said in this video for one purpose, and for one purpose only to promote Gracie jujitsu that is it, and not to give homage to those who accurately contributed to what is being practice today. Who is Yoshitsugu Yamashita? Who is Mitsuyo Maeda? Who is Taro Miyake? Who is Sadazu Uyenishi? Who were the prize fighters? Who did the Brazilian government in 1908 hired from Japan to teach judo to the country Naval Academy?Answer Miura Sakuso’s aka Sada Miyako with his assistant Kakihara. They taught Judo in Rio de Janeiro. This is why we have two different lineage in Brazil. You have Brazilian jujitsu and then you have Gracie jujitsu.
Don’t how my school teaches ground and striking techniques but the more advanced practitioners do full on MMA. Seeing them combine the strikes takedowns and subs looks crazy. Even people from other practices come study with us
Very interesting video. I think the oral history this gentleman is giving on Gracie jujitsu is very misleading and somewhat in accurate. If we’re going to study history accurately, let’s please remember outside of Japan Brazil possess. The largest population of Japanese judo was already brought in to Brazil way before the Gracies were. In picture. And this is well documented. Fast forwarding lets recall Carlos Gracie open up the first school with. Donato Pires Dos Reis. In addition Maeda only taught Carlos Gracie Judo for three years! So why in a lot of Gracie jujitsu schools Judo throws are not taught how to break a fall is not taught and why this deception that Ne-Waza also known as ground fighting is the only way to defend yourself? People please do your research do not get hypnotize by false propaganda.
Takeo Yano, known as the “Eastern Demon”, was a prominent member of the second wave of Japanese Judoka to arrive in Brazil. Japanese professional challenge wrestlers, such as Geo Omori, Soshihiro Satake and Mitsuyo Maeda, were already firmly established members of Brazilian fight society when Yano arrived in 1934. As the first generation of Japanese fighters grew older, Yano was one of the fighters who took their place, continuing to teach, fight and develop the art throughout Brazil. There is not much information known about Takeo Yano, but it is believed he may have been born in 1909 and trained at the Dai Nippon Butoko Kai academy in Kioto under famed Judoka, Hajime Isogai. The academy was established in 1895 by the emperor and served as a location to maintain and transmit various samurai fighting arts. Yano’s instructor was an early student of Jigoro Kano and became the second person to ever be promoted to Judo 10th dan. Additionally, Isogai was known as ground fighting expert (newaza) and was an early supporter of Kosen Judo (an offshoot of Judo that emphasized ground fighting). Yano trained at the academy until he received his 3rd dan and then began travelling internationally
I wish all BJJ schools adopted your philosophy of integrating more throws and self defense from striking into their curriculums. I’ve trained at a BJJ school for over a year and the only takedown we practiced was a single leg take down and we probably only drilled it 3-4 time per year. And of course that drill only made up a small portion of the class. This is a big reason why I cross train in Judo too. I love both disciplines and I’m always hearing from my BJJ partners how 90% of fights end up on the ground and I’m like yeah, that’s why I’m here training but it’s important to remember that 100% start on their feet.
Ryan M Absolutely. I think it’s important to incorporate a variety of things. Everybody starts on their feet which is why I also like to learn judo throws and also some karate.
I think one reason for the ground focus in BJJ and the throwing focus in Judo is that one can't play around and measure oneself with others using gun-defences or standing-selfdefence moves like a headlock-defence or both-hands-chocke-defence.
I recall Rorion at a seminar made it very clear, it's Jiu Jitsu. It's not judo. Has all the moves, licks, etc., But they showed how to get there, then the tricks of techniques. Where I really wanted to be where I could have pursued GJJ. As it'll probably be Gracie's Judo in time.
So ironically sport BJJ may be one of the main reasons jiujitsu has gravitated toward being a mostly ground based fighting system despite the early emphasis on avoiding sport and remaining a total self defense system.
Early Judo in the 1890-1925 was a mostly ground based system thats why BJJ is so ground oriented. Check out Yukio Tani's Game of Jujutsu(judo) 1906 book as a free PDF you can read online, it was mostly ground techniques....ruclips.net/video/p0ByB_aoJvU/видео.html www.google.com/search?q=Game+of+jujutsu+yukio+tani+newaza&client=firefox-b-1-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjoyeTLpKPdAhWTKXwKHaOGBNEQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=654#imgrc=026XwPoqHo6hCM:
he answered it. He said that the terms Judo and jiujitsu were indistinguishable. And Maeda called the art jiujitsu because thats what people were used to. Judo was coined officially later on when it became an Olympic sport with an emphasis in throwing and pinning. Submissions are a very small part of Judo nowadays whereas in BJJ submissions are the cornerstone.
Paul Daluz sorry but I don't agree with what he said in the video. .. Judo and Jujutsu the samurai Jujutsu the tradicional one there are big differences between judo and Jujutsu for start Jujutsu train with weapons do send up fight punches and kicks every where they do ground fighting and imobilizations and bone breaking all that Jujutsu was not for sport but for war and judo doesn't have almost nothing to do with Jujutsu so I don't know where this informations came from if you have eyes you can see the point the différenciés. ... and Bjj it's more like Judo than Jujutsu and once again jiu-jitsu doesn't mean nothing jitsu it's nothing jutsu means skill so it's Jujutsu. .. Só many things that don't make sense at all
No japaõ existiam varias escolas de jujitsu algumas mais especializadas em atemis outras em projeções e luxações e outras em luta no chaõ o judo foi uma versaõ moderna e menos violenta creada por jogoro kano
Yeah it annoys me that people think pulling guard is realistic in a self defense situation. I think it should only be done to train being on bottom....
Look at all the TKO and Knock outs and injury from pulling guard then getting slammed...Imagine it on concrete or hard floor in a street fight....As Rickson Gracie says only use the guard when you are forced too rather then pulling guard you should alway aim for the top position... ruclips.net/video/yW0-FtqSFLs/видео.html
Here is the dichotomy of the history of Brazilian jujitsu. Now the Gracies are not the only lineage that exists when it comes to jujitsu in Brazil does there’s another gentleman by the name of Professor sa. Advice people to go do your research on Professor sa. What I don’t understand even though Gracie jujitsu comes from kosen , and kodokan judo lineages why Judo rolls and Judo falls. Are not taught in Gracie jujitsu.
Never seen a gracie w striking skills ya they can try &clap your ears & heel kick u in the back on the ground but their stand up skills were non existent
@@rhinobridge o Id question the real part they always made rules up to suit themselves & sakaraba said that he wasnt allowed to beat Royce & he lost when his coner threw in the towel....🤔
So why they don't teach like that in every Brazilian Jujutsu school ??? If there is a densho of the art so why they don't teach equal the same Jujutsu?? Like they do with the other arts like karate , judo Taekwondo etc even traditional Jujutsu is teached equal all over the world so why Jujutsu Brasileiro isn't like that if there is a densho of the art ?? If there is a densho so there is a curriculum of the art so why Jujutsu Brasileiro isn't teached fully like a art from the bigening to the end ?? Why Gracie Jujutsu different from Bjj ? cose clearly they don't teach the sane in all Brazilian Jujutsu schools ??? So confusing this ... some teach strikes and kicks, against Arms and ground fighting like traditional Jujutsu and others it's just ground fight without self defense more like Judo. ... And why they say jiu-jitsu when they should call it Jujutsu. ..??? Jitsu doesn't mean nothing it's jutsu that means skill so why these things with no sense? ?? I'm so confuse ... I'm starting to think that it's better to lean traditional Jujutsu more complete and they all teach the same way ...
Japanese is a different language from English and Portuguese and Jujutsu is a Japanese word so there is no real standard on how to write it in western languages. Hence both Jujutsu,Jiujitsu,Jujitsu etc are all acceptable spellings. Same with how Cantonese in America spell Gungfu and Mandarin Chinese spell it Gongfu, or how Cantonese say Sifu while other Chinese dialects say Shifu and Shrfu(without the I and with an R) when writing it in English. Also when you say Traditional Jujutsu which system are you refering too? There are dozens of related and unrelated styles, as "Jujutsu" is a general umbrella term for ALL grappling and Wrestling systems in Japan, which most people for some reason think is one style...lol Also before Judo all Jujutsu systems only did Kata not live rolling or Randori.
Because for Brazilians (and you know that because you're one), jujutsu pronunciation sounds like jiujitsu. So they wrote what they heard. There was no internet to check back then and they didn't speak Japanese as well.
Samurai derived systems of Jujutsu dont do ground grappling...for obvious reason... And most of Gracie Jiujitsu ground techniques came from Judo and the Handa dojo(Handa of Shin Shin Ryu and Mataemon Tanabe of the Fusen Ryu) who basically invented the ground skills in 1890s as a counter to Tachiwaza heavy Judo players... An example of this is the simply fact(Google Koryu systems or watch any traditional Japanese Jujutsu system(all ten traditional Jujutsu school on youtube) There is literally no ground grappling techniques other then some seated techniques such as Shin-Shin Ryu proto Newaza techniques such as these. ruclips.net/video/-bmIXF4RPaM/видео.html
Yeah! Came from japan Mitsuyo maeda, a japanese, taught jiu jitsu to the gracie family, including carlos and helio gracie. So Helio and carlos developed the brazilian jiu jitsu, a jiu jitsu based in leverage where anyone could defend themself. Helio was thin and weak and have beaten guys much stronger and heavier than him
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Great video. This deserves more views.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of BJJ places do ground techniques. Many BJJ places don't even do takedowns. Modern BJJ is great, but it is far from complete self-defense, which is just sad.
I would love to be able to train at your guys' school.
The best thing to do is to go to a traditional judo school, not Olympic sport, judo, traditional, judo school. We will learn to stand up and ground fighting from there. You can transition into Brazillian or Gracie jujitsu.
Throws are secondary, rarely taught in many schools atleast in the UK, but strikes are not used at all.
Try UKGJJ if you'd like to
Thank you for posting, I teach Bujinkan Ninjutsu and Samurai Jujutsu, we share a very common training ancestery. I also train in the Gracie University program.
I’m not a troll, but I’m very into authentic history. People take your time to understand the history that was not available to the public doing the UFC craze of Brazilian jujitsu. I’m going to name some worthy elders in this history for everybody to research to the bank a lot of things that was not mentioned in this video Certain things I said in this video for one purpose, and for one purpose only to promote Gracie jujitsu that is it, and not to give homage to those who accurately contributed to what is being practice today.
Who is Yoshitsugu Yamashita? Who is Mitsuyo Maeda? Who is Taro Miyake? Who is Sadazu Uyenishi? Who were the prize fighters? Who did the Brazilian government in 1908 hired from Japan to teach judo to the country Naval Academy?Answer Miura Sakuso’s aka Sada Miyako with his assistant Kakihara. They taught Judo in Rio de Janeiro. This is why we have two different lineage in Brazil. You have Brazilian jujitsu and then you have Gracie jujitsu.
Very well and throughly explained.
Very nice video and explanation. For a newbie like me this is golden.
You're new well bjj is actually just judo. This guy is full of it the Gracie's culturally appropriated judo.
Good material & food for thought as always.
Excelente explicación y reseña histórica, gracias !
Don’t how my school teaches ground and striking techniques but the more advanced practitioners do full on MMA. Seeing them combine the strikes takedowns and subs looks crazy. Even people from other practices come study with us
Very informative. Thank you.
for once i agree with professor valente . he spoke of judo with respect . honnor to you Pedro
Our pleasure.
thanks for posting another interesting video!
Very interesting video. I think the oral history this gentleman is giving on Gracie jujitsu is very misleading and somewhat in accurate. If we’re going to study history accurately, let’s please remember outside of Japan Brazil possess. The largest population of Japanese judo was already brought in to Brazil way before the Gracies were. In picture. And this is well documented. Fast forwarding lets recall Carlos Gracie open up the first school with.
Donato Pires Dos Reis.
In addition Maeda only taught Carlos Gracie Judo for three years! So why in a lot of Gracie jujitsu schools Judo throws are not taught how to break a fall is not taught and why this deception that Ne-Waza also known as ground fighting is the only way to defend yourself? People please do your research do not get hypnotize by false propaganda.
Takeo Yano, known as the “Eastern Demon”, was a prominent member of the second wave of Japanese Judoka to arrive in Brazil. Japanese professional challenge wrestlers, such as Geo Omori, Soshihiro Satake and Mitsuyo Maeda, were already firmly established members of Brazilian fight society when Yano arrived in 1934. As the first generation of Japanese fighters grew older, Yano was one of the fighters who took their place, continuing to teach, fight and develop the art throughout Brazil.
There is not much information known about Takeo Yano, but it is believed he may have been born in 1909 and trained at the Dai Nippon Butoko Kai academy in Kioto under famed Judoka, Hajime Isogai. The academy was established in 1895 by the emperor and served as a location to maintain and transmit various samurai fighting arts. Yano’s instructor was an early student of Jigoro Kano and became the second person to ever be promoted to Judo 10th dan. Additionally, Isogai was known as ground fighting expert (newaza) and was an early supporter of Kosen Judo (an offshoot of Judo that emphasized ground fighting). Yano trained at the academy until he received his 3rd dan and then began travelling internationally
I wish all BJJ schools adopted your philosophy of integrating more throws and self defense from striking into their curriculums.
I’ve trained at a BJJ school for over a year and the only takedown we practiced was a single leg take down and we probably only drilled it 3-4 time per year. And of course that drill only made up a small portion of the class. This is a big reason why I cross train in Judo too.
I love both disciplines and I’m always hearing from my BJJ partners how 90% of fights end up on the ground and I’m like yeah, that’s why I’m here training but it’s important to remember that 100% start on their feet.
Ryan M Absolutely. I think it’s important to incorporate a variety of things. Everybody starts on their feet which is why I also like to learn judo throws and also some karate.
I think one reason for the ground focus in BJJ and the throwing focus in Judo is that one can't play around and measure oneself with others using gun-defences or standing-selfdefence moves like a headlock-defence or both-hands-chocke-defence.
We need you guys in Toronto!!!!
Thank you
Very insightful....I always thought jiu jitsu was only a grappling art.
I recall Rorion at a seminar made it very clear, it's Jiu Jitsu. It's not judo. Has all the moves, licks, etc., But they showed how to get there, then the tricks of techniques. Where I really wanted to be where I could have pursued GJJ. As it'll probably be Gracie's Judo in time.
So ironically sport BJJ may be one of the main reasons jiujitsu has gravitated toward being a mostly ground based fighting system despite the early emphasis on avoiding sport and remaining a total self defense system.
Early Judo in the 1890-1925 was a mostly ground based system thats why BJJ is so ground oriented.
Check out Yukio Tani's Game of Jujutsu(judo) 1906 book as a free PDF you can read online, it was mostly ground techniques....ruclips.net/video/p0ByB_aoJvU/видео.html
www.google.com/search?q=Game+of+jujutsu+yukio+tani+newaza&client=firefox-b-1-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjoyeTLpKPdAhWTKXwKHaOGBNEQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=654#imgrc=026XwPoqHo6hCM:
@@mongolchiuud8931 Absolutely, Kano changed the rules later to emphasise throws. By that time Maeda had already left Japan.
pure wisdom
but the gracies learn judo or ju jutsu? the question was not properly answer in my opinion.
+anarcogrunge judo
+anarcogrunge technically it was judo but he was trying to make a point of it being different to the judo practiced today
he answered it. He said that the terms Judo and jiujitsu were indistinguishable. And Maeda called the art jiujitsu because thats what people were used to. Judo was coined officially later on when it became an Olympic sport with an emphasis in throwing and pinning. Submissions are a very small part of Judo nowadays whereas in BJJ submissions are the cornerstone.
Paul Daluz sorry but I don't agree with what he said in the video. ..
Judo and Jujutsu the samurai Jujutsu the tradicional one there are big differences between judo and Jujutsu for start Jujutsu train with weapons do send up fight punches and kicks every where they do ground fighting and imobilizations and bone breaking all that Jujutsu was not for sport but for war and judo doesn't have almost nothing to do with Jujutsu so I don't know where this informations came from if you have eyes you can see the point the différenciés. ... and Bjj it's more like Judo than Jujutsu and once again jiu-jitsu doesn't mean nothing jitsu it's nothing jutsu means skill so it's Jujutsu. ..
Só many things that don't make sense at all
rrivera jujitsu.
No japaõ existiam varias escolas de jujitsu algumas mais especializadas em atemis outras em projeções e luxações e outras em luta no chaõ o judo foi uma versaõ moderna e menos violenta creada por jogoro kano
Yeah it annoys me that people think pulling guard is realistic in a self defense situation. I think it should only be done to train being on bottom....
Look at all the TKO and Knock outs and injury from pulling guard then getting slammed...Imagine it on concrete or hard floor in a street fight....As Rickson Gracie says only use the guard when you are forced too rather then pulling guard you should alway aim for the top position...
ruclips.net/video/yW0-FtqSFLs/видео.html
Here is the dichotomy of the history of Brazilian jujitsu. Now the Gracies are not the only lineage that exists when it comes to jujitsu in Brazil does there’s another gentleman by the name of Professor sa. Advice people to go do your research on Professor sa.
What I don’t understand even though Gracie jujitsu comes from kosen , and kodokan judo lineages why Judo rolls and Judo falls. Are not taught in Gracie jujitsu.
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu does not come from Kosen Judo.
We do learn Judo ukemi and breakfalls.
If I had the money I would train there. They are expensive
Royce and rickson have the best striking in mma history
Never seen a gracie w striking skills ya they can try &clap your ears & heel kick u in the back on the ground but their stand up skills were non existent
True. But at least they tried and fought for real. BJJ players today begin their fights with their asses already on the floor.
@@rhinobridge o
Id question the real part they always made rules up to suit themselves & sakaraba said that he wasnt allowed to beat Royce & he lost when his coner threw in the towel....🤔
Original mma goes back to Ancient Greece :p
Idk BJJ dont seem to respect the roots from where it came from, reasons why Judokas kill it against BJJ fighters
So why they don't teach like that in every Brazilian Jujutsu school ??? If there is a densho of the art so why they don't teach equal the same Jujutsu?? Like they do with the other arts like karate , judo Taekwondo etc even traditional Jujutsu is teached equal all over the world so why Jujutsu Brasileiro isn't like that if there is a densho of the art ?? If there is a densho so there is a curriculum of the art so why Jujutsu Brasileiro isn't teached fully like a art from the bigening to the end ??
Why Gracie Jujutsu different from Bjj ? cose clearly they don't teach the sane in all Brazilian Jujutsu schools ??? So confusing this ... some teach strikes and kicks, against Arms and ground fighting like traditional Jujutsu and others it's just ground fight without self defense more like Judo. ...
And why they say jiu-jitsu when they should call it Jujutsu. ..???
Jitsu doesn't mean nothing it's jutsu that means skill so why these things with no sense? ??
I'm so confuse ... I'm starting to think that it's better to lean traditional Jujutsu more complete and they all teach the same way ...
Japanese is a different language from English and Portuguese and Jujutsu is a Japanese word so there is no real standard on how to write it in western languages. Hence both Jujutsu,Jiujitsu,Jujitsu etc are all acceptable spellings. Same with how Cantonese in America spell Gungfu and Mandarin Chinese spell it Gongfu, or how Cantonese say Sifu while other Chinese dialects say Shifu and Shrfu(without the I and with an R) when writing it in English.
Also when you say Traditional Jujutsu which system are you refering too? There are dozens of related and unrelated styles, as "Jujutsu" is a general umbrella term for ALL grappling and Wrestling systems in Japan, which most people for some reason think is one style...lol
Also before Judo all Jujutsu systems only did Kata not live rolling or Randori.
Because for Brazilians (and you know that because you're one), jujutsu pronunciation sounds like jiujitsu. So they wrote what they heard. There was no internet to check back then and they didn't speak Japanese as well.
BJJ is decentralised. Many BJJ schools either did not learn the self-defense / traditional JJ components, or they don't care about it.
This coming from a guy with "judo" in his name ... I'm sure you're not biased at all.
hmm idk gracies have done alot of shady shit
It's a stolen system from the samurai warriors. nothing original from Brazil. all Japanese.
Not so
Samurai derived systems of Jujutsu dont do ground grappling...for obvious reason...
And most of Gracie Jiujitsu ground techniques came from Judo and the Handa dojo(Handa of Shin Shin Ryu and Mataemon Tanabe of the Fusen Ryu)
who basically invented the ground skills in 1890s as a counter to Tachiwaza heavy Judo players...
An example of this is the simply fact(Google Koryu systems or watch any traditional Japanese Jujutsu system(all ten traditional Jujutsu school on youtube) There is literally no ground grappling techniques other then some seated techniques such as Shin-Shin Ryu proto Newaza techniques such as these.
ruclips.net/video/-bmIXF4RPaM/видео.html
Yeah!
Came from japan
Mitsuyo maeda, a japanese, taught jiu jitsu to the gracie family, including carlos and helio gracie.
So Helio and carlos developed the brazilian jiu jitsu, a jiu jitsu based in leverage where anyone could defend themself. Helio was thin and weak and have beaten guys much stronger and heavier than him
Gracie propaganda,
judo hernandez my teams beat judo players with judo rules hahaha
judo 101 nope just truth.
where can I train in Jiu-Jitsu in NYC where my wallet won't be incinerated?
Morning Saint good luck with that, 100 dollars plus here in upstate NY