It seems to me that the .40 hole was only slightly larger because the bullet hit a bit farther from the edge than the .45 did, so the cavity had room to widen to it's fullest, but since the edge is stronger, the .45's hole didn't have the space to get a full radius of destruction.
The .40 is a great round, but then again so is the .357 mag revolver round which nobody talks about these days. I prefer the .45 because I am very comfortable with it. Shoot what you are comfortable with. If it is a .22 LR then so be it. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22 LR, and some of those guns are super-accurate. Peace, Love!!
Cast iron is extremely heavy, but it's also extremely brittle. I used to install tile, and occasionally during remodels we would have to remove old cast iron tubs for replacement, and we found it was easier to shatter them with a sledge hammer than to lug them down 1 or 2 flights of stairs.
Because it probably barely went through so most of the energy was dumped right into the pan. With good hollow point bullets, all 3 rounds will dump all energy into a human, and they all do comparable damage. Around 350-590 foot pounds for all 3 rounds. Max of 500 for 9mm and 590 for the other two. Average 430 for 9mm and 500 for the other two. Not a significant difference. They're a little more powerful but nothing significant and they are all just relatively "weak" handgun rounds, and all 3 have the capacity to easily kill a man.
Swinging (and movement in the direction of the shot in general) is the sign of momentum transfer (3rd law of Newton), not kinetic energy. Energy transfer destroys, momentum transfer moves. 40 have a bit more energy than 45 if loaded to the same % of SAAMI maximums and shot from the barrels of the same length. Simply because 40 has much, MUCH higher pressure while just a bit lower area of the cross-section of the bore. There is no magic,just basic physics. Energy = area of the cross-section of the bore multiplied by the integral of the pressure over the path of the bullet (path in the barrel being from the rearmost part of the widest part of the bullet - so not counting boat tail if present - to the muzzle if you are interested in muzzle energy).
@Jeffrey BoneMy pleasure, I really enjoyed his man with no name trilogy, based on Yojimbo from Japan. Now back in the day, those were great movies, Japanese or American.
Would never want to be on the receiving in of a .45 ACP. DESIGNED TO REPLACE U.S.CALVARY COLT REVOLER 45 LONG COLT AND JOHN BROWNING DID IT. OLD WINCHESTER 240 SILVER TIP HOLLOW POINTS .45 ACP MAKE IT ABOUT PERFECT MATCH TO THE FAMOUS .45 LONG COLT.
I think the .45 hit closer to the edge which is why the hole it left was a bit smaller and lopsided. My bet would be if you hit them both well away from the edge the .45 would leave a bigger hole.
I finally got one right! I thought all would penetrate through the pans but I was using your rifle video's penetrating 3 skillets as a reference point. Very interesting. Thanks!
I think that all three rounds should have been fired at the center of the skillet... okay you would need 3 different skillets. But yeah had the .45 been on center it would have been larger.
I mostly expected the results you experienced. The iron in the average skillet is fairly brittle. My cousin worked for a cookware manufacturing concern; he told me that the iron is subjected to some sort of treatment once the skillet is formed to harden it. The spalling around each hole on the backside of the skillet and the lack of a concave quality to the exit suggests the metal is far less elastic than typical plate iron.
I guess theres differences in cast iron as we shot one about month ago with Ruger 22cal and penetrating was really close.Fastest rounds was sold out so we couldnt get fastest 22cal rounds.
Excellent demonstration, thanks for taking the time to put this video together! I've yet to shoot a .40, but from everything, I continue to see I'm Very Impressed!
I thought they would ricochet off. Boy was I wrong. And I thought the .45 would have won the 'hole size' contest if it had been hit closer to center. I think hitting so close to the edge kept the size down. jmo. Loved the video. Nice shooting!
The reason the .40 made the same size hole as the .45 is due to the round you used. The .40 was a flat tip vs the typical round .45. As seen in 55 seconds into the video.
45 was closer to the edge. It would be interesting to see a closer shot with the 45 in the middle of the target. I think it would be bigger than the 40.
Holy crap. I would have guessed 3 bounces just like you. I'm surprised at the results. Now you have me wondering what would happen with a .22 and a .380.
@Dr Beechas "Moving" is momentum transfer, actually WASTE of energy as the energy wasted on moving the target cannot be spent usefully destroying the target. Basic physics, laws of conservation of momentum and energy.
I thought you were using a real cast iron skillet. That's a Chinese copy of a skillet. The real ones are almost 1/2" thick. A .22 would punch a hole in that one you used.
Round per round the 45acp is always gonna be more deadly at handgun fighting distances if you can handle it. If your better w a 9mm then by all means rock it. It's a fairly adequate caliber and w less recoil and a little more capacity. I hate arguing calibers cause the die hard 9mm club always think your telling them that they got a small dick when u say use it if its better for you and they get offended. I like plinking w and carry a 9mm sometimes. But im 6,4 235 and stout. So the recoil on a 45acp isn't an issue for me and in a semi auto if a weapon holds 8 or more is plenty. Especially if you carry a spare mag. Most times I rock a 7 shot 357magnum w a speed load. And I'm not an old head. I'm in my late 30,s. To me its just common sense that bigger holes are better w semi,s. But all my Glocks I've ran the hell out of and they will occasionally jam. My quality revolvers never have.
I can shoot 9mm all day long. After about half hour with the 45, my wrist is telling me it’s time to stop, and I’m anticipating the recoil. And, frankly, I just don’t enjoy it. And I think that’s really what it comes down to. If you don’t like shooting your firearm, then you’re not going to practice with it. And although I’m a “woman of a certain age,“ I do love shooting shotguns. But 45s just hurt me. We are all different and weird. 😊
The way the pan reacts when it is hit by the 9mm compared to how it reacts to the .45 makes me think there's something to the whole "knock down power" of the .45
The difference in the way the skillet bounced around is due the the difference in energy transferred AND the difference in shot placement. The 9mm bullet was only 115gr, the .45ACP bullet was 230 grams -- twice the weight, but the .45 bullet was almost certainly travelling slower. Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. For a constant velocity, if the mass is doubled, the energy is doubled; however, for a constant mass, if the velocity is doubled, the muzzle energy increases four times. In this case, we are not looking exactly at muzzle energy, but at the downrange energy of the round, however at 20 yards neither bullet will have slowed enough to make much difference. The TYPICAL velocity for the 115gr 9mm is around 1,246 fps. while the TYPICAL velocity for the 230gr .45ACP is around 850 fps. The actual energy of the 9mm round would have been about 10-12% GREATER than the energy of the .45 round hitting the skillet, but we don't know how much of the energy was actually transferred to the skillet. IF the faster 9mm round actually passed completely through the skillet it might not have transferred all of its energy to the skillet while the slower .45 round could have been stopped by the skillet (even while blasting a hole through it). Without a high speed camera to get ultra-slow motion video there isn't any way to see what happened as each bullet hit the skillet. As an educated GUESS, my guess is that both bullets transferred very similar amounts of energy to the skillet -- certainly NOT enough difference in energy transfer to account for the visible difference in how the skillet bounced around from the impacts. So, why did the skillet bounce around so much more dramatically when struck by the .45 round? I would expect that SHOT PLACEMENT had the most to do with it. The 9mm round struck barely off center so it had to try to move the whole skillet almost straight back. The .45 round struck way out near the edge, causing the skillet to spin around, which is what we saw happen.
I was thinking the same thing.. also that look like cheap cast iron pans... actually I kno they were bc of the symbol on the bottom... use a antique lodge pan, those super thick ones... good metal was used back then. 😎
The placement of the shot is also a big factor. For the 40, the shot landed on the upper portion of the skillet and the skillet didn't move as much (little energy loss). For the 45, the shot landed on the bottom portion of the skillet and the skillet moved a lot (loss of energy). Next time, probably hold the skillet so it doesn't move and the result will be more consistent.
I think that the .45 cal. Would of shown more damage if he'd hit the skillet further from the edge. The Skillet is thicker and also stronger on the curved edge.
This is true. If you notice the energy transfer with the 45 was much higher too. The strike point was closer to the edge thereby reducing hole size. Regardless, the 40 and 45 would have made equivalent holes. Most important part is not to get shot by either.
@@diarrheadan8088 Your ignorant opinion is as worthless as your name. The hole on the .45 is about as big as the one the .40 made, however, the difference in energy was enormous. The .45 slammed that pan against the fence, whereas the pan didn't even touch the fence with the .40. The .45 did exactly what it was designed to do.
Cast iron is kind of brittle to shock compared to the steels. Different cast irons will do differently and react differently to the shock of the bullet but I tend to think a 22 mag will put a hole it in. Like others have said, look at how the 45 hit closest to the rim. More important, look how the 45 moved the skillet--that sucker was in it's death throe. It's satisfying to know when the Skillet Zombie apocalypse happens just about anything will do. The 45 created violent skillet death throes as soon as it hit. Can you try throwing a hammer at the skillet next time?
GREAT Shootin WHO_TEE, Those skillets are heavy but pretty brittle. You can kinda see when you hold them up and show the holes. Great stuff as always my fellow American. Hey Wensday(4th) is my birthday. Maybe if you have some old appliances laying around you can see what those 3 cals will go through.
Cool video, I watched it a few times, especially the slow mo portions, and the .45 really moved the skillet when it hit....just proving the knock down power a 230gr round has....nevertheless, you put any of these calibers between the eyes of an attacker, and they are going down!
I keep a C9 by me in the kitchen. And a JHP 45 beside me in the bedroom. HP's are crude, but effective. I've got $250 in the pair. HP has great customer service as well.
@@devincruse6736 my wife bought me a 9mm hi point and it shoots flawlessly!!!! A good hot round and A hi point is all I need for the house. Well, besides my shotgun. Stay safe!!
The only thing about the 45 shot it was on the corner of the skillet, which makes the metal stronger. For a better match U would have to have a shot closer to center.
Can you try this again but please use a bigger thicker cast iron pan, like the one in PUBG. Please shoot the opposite side and use a fresh one for each bullet. It should be bulletproof if you shoot the opposite side.
I think the .45 won really because you hit closer to the brim on that one and had you hit the center of the pan it would have been a much bigger hole. look at the widest point blown out on the .45 and it's a lot bigger than either the .40 or 9mm
That means do not afraid of 9mm and 45 when your cover is a skillet . Get scared of 40 , it will put 1mm bigger hole. This 1mm is the key in that experiment. The guy surely will get the Nobel prize. For shooting skillets.
@POINTTWOFIVEMOA The hell are you blabbering about? As far as energy delivered on target, .40 is superior to both .45 and 9mm. That's because .40 has a heavy enough weight but it also moves FAST. Additionally, I get double the round count with a .40 per mag.
@@markdavidson1049 Watch this video again and note which round almost knocks the skillet thru the backstop. It ain't the 9mm or 40 S&W! Clearly the 45 is delivering a LOT more "energy on target" than the .40!
Actually, a .22 lr CCI mini mag will blow through a cast iron pan! I’ve done it. So much for a .22 LR hollow point mini mag not being adequate for self defense.
GYPSY KING FURY, either one does the same thing. Actually, I’ve done the same thing with my break barrel .22 cal air rifle. At 20 yards my pellets blow through a new cast iron pan! One well placed head shot with my air rifle and you’re dead!
I have done this myself and knew the outcome... Cool video though. Somewhere on RUclips there is a video of someone shooting at a cast iron water pump, same story there. Good times!!
@@Scooby1984 well, i suppose if you dont shoot but a little and pay more for ammo, but ive seen to many fail before 1000 rnds often failures you can not except in a carry gun, and yet you can buy a much nicer Taurus for the same money or even less and put thousands of rnds through them, not saying a hi point is dangerous to shoot just why not get way better for the price? Ps i feel just the same about the old Jennings pistols
Well done for getting 3 out of 4 from 20 yards. Many tests I see are from much closer. I wonder what the results would look like with non jacketed rounds.
Only so much penetration is useful, then it becomes a liability factor. ALL these rounds have more than enough penetration, diameter after entry point and cavitation then become important
Deeper penetration can actually be more dangerous to others behind the target shot. Larger tissue damage to me is more important than smaller diameter penetrations. I go 40SW. over 9mm 24/7/365.
I would not want to get shot with any of the three, but my service round for over 20 years of service was a .40 S&W .......I still own my old backup weapon a Glock 27 .......
Great video, I've seen similar videos kill some cast iron skillets. They made me wonder about the front doors of a wood stove. I have always wondered if a door would was body armor like Clint Eastwood, Michael J. Fox used.
Cheap modern cast-iron is actually an alloy, also that pan is maybe 1/8 of an inch thick. Try using a cast-iron pan manufactured before 1950, real cast iron that’s at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Also the Flatnose bullet on the 40 gives it an advantage, round nose bullets tend to slip and slide and deviate on impact.
You can still buy the real thing even ones made in the US but they are not cheap. Like everything else you can get cheap Chinese stuff that will be what you pay for.
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Should have lined the skillet with my wife's biscuits. Ain't nothing going thru them.
Lmbo 🤣
Burn!
Wow 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Damn...
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This is extremely important information for anyone hunting iron skillets, or if you are threatened by rogue skillets in your area.
Yup
Also a good way to punish stubborn and bad skillets.
mothman1967 😁
Placement is much more important than caliber when defending against skillets.
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It seems to me that the .40 hole was only slightly larger because the bullet hit a bit farther from the edge than the .45 did, so the cavity had room to widen to it's fullest, but since the edge is stronger, the .45's hole didn't have the space to get a full radius of destruction.
You're exactly correct. Corners are always stronger
The .40 is a great round, but then again so is the .357 mag revolver round which nobody talks about these days. I prefer the .45 because I am very comfortable with it. Shoot what you are comfortable with. If it is a .22 LR then so be it. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22 LR, and some of those guns are super-accurate. Peace, Love!!
I just want to say that the second greatest killing implement in the history of warfare is 230 grain, .45 ball ammo!🇺🇸
Also because the 40 is flattened already so expands more on impact.
Also, the 40 was a flat nose
I think you should’ve used a separate pan for each shot. Each shot compromises the integrity of the pan weakening it, like a bullet resistant vest.
Good point, but then he would have to spend 3x as much.
sure are you buying the skillets ?
agree
Everyone knows RUclipsrs are pulling in the big bucks. Buy 3 skillets.
The skillets can cost more than some of the guns he's using.
The first problem I noticed was, you didn't "season" the skillet. 🤠
😁😁😁👍👍 thanks for watching Ted!
Lol
@@WHOTEEWHO I think you need to redo this test with a real Skillet a LODGE SKILLET!!!
Did that already...5 other videos with EXPENSIVE LODGE SKILLETS
Omg 😂 that’s what I thought too
Cast iron is extremely heavy, but it's also extremely brittle. I used to install tile, and occasionally during remodels we would have to remove old cast iron tubs for replacement, and we found it was easier to shatter them with a sledge hammer than to lug them down 1 or 2 flights of stairs.
Now you know you can just shoot them up into pieces or at least create holes to drag them by
Been there, done that. Waaaaayy easier, Brother!
It's a pain in the dick to stress relieve a huge bathtub, a pan not so much.
I tried sledge hammers with my cast iron tub and was afraid I would break the framing, so I switched to my sawmill and cut up the old tub.
Be Thankful You weren't the Plumber that had to lug them UP the stairs.
Did anyone else see how much more the pan swong when hit with the .45? That thing had a lot of kinetic energy!
The 45 definitely smacked it a lot harder than the others.
Chunking Missiles lol I’d love to see 10mm!
Because it probably barely went through so most of the energy was dumped right into the pan. With good hollow point bullets, all 3 rounds will dump all energy into a human, and they all do comparable damage. Around 350-590 foot pounds for all 3 rounds. Max of 500 for 9mm and 590 for the other two. Average 430 for 9mm and 500 for the other two. Not a significant difference. They're a little more powerful but nothing significant and they are all just relatively "weak" handgun rounds, and all 3 have the capacity to easily kill a man.
Swinging (and movement in the direction of the shot in general) is the sign of momentum transfer (3rd law of Newton), not kinetic energy.
Energy transfer destroys, momentum transfer moves. 40 have a bit more energy than 45 if loaded to the same % of SAAMI maximums and shot from the barrels of the same length. Simply because 40 has much, MUCH higher pressure while just a bit lower area of the cross-section of the bore.
There is no magic,just basic physics. Energy = area of the cross-section of the bore multiplied by the integral of the pressure over the path of the bullet (path in the barrel being from the rearmost part of the widest part of the bullet - so not counting boat tail if present - to the muzzle if you are interested in muzzle energy).
Yeah.45 extremely energy
I think the skillet won here, even after you wasted all your ammo on it , it could still crack you over the head and kill you 😁
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Only at very close range. That’s the disadvantage. 😒
YES YES! And less wind drag having 3 vents now
Put a few more holes in it and you have the world's heaviest cheese grater
Yeah right, you can also still fry an egg in the lower right portion of the skillet. Lol
That's what you get when you bring a skillet to a gunfight.
Did you see the handle?
Only on PUBG 🤣
Moral of the story .... "you just can't find a good bullet proof skillet these days
I think your right here, lol
No Ozark trail that’s for sure
Don't copy Clint in 'A Fist Full of Dollars', his vest survived, being the door of a wood store.
@Jeffrey Bone Very true, good quote, "sorry, make that 4 coffins". Definitely don't make good westerns like his any more.
@Jeffrey BoneMy pleasure, I really enjoyed his man with no name trilogy, based on Yojimbo from Japan. Now back in the day, those were great movies, Japanese or American.
Considering how brittle cast iron is I am surprised that the skillet was not cracked by the rounds as well as holed.
Word!! Same here...
Hell an air rifle could shoot a hole through a cast iron skeelet!!
...or shattered.
No matter what happens, the 45 acp is my choice
Glock 21 gen 4, CCW for 2 years. No regrets
5 Wars ; it is a proven performer...Spanish American War...WW 1 and WW2 ...Korea & Viet Nam...
Would never want to be on the receiving in of a .45 ACP.
DESIGNED TO REPLACE U.S.CALVARY COLT REVOLER 45 LONG COLT AND JOHN BROWNING DID IT.
OLD WINCHESTER 240 SILVER TIP HOLLOW POINTS .45 ACP MAKE IT ABOUT PERFECT MATCH TO THE FAMOUS .45 LONG COLT.
yup!
.45 is my choice for a side arm. I feel more confident with it and it has been very reliable.
I wish my Grandpa would just get RUclips.
He used to do tests like this in his garage back in the day.
He would love this stuff.
Never use a cast iron skillet for body armor!
Nope!
Marty Mcfly would beg to differ
Yep that’s the real moral of this story. Not surprising that is the nature of cast iron.
I know now!
Big Faaaaact's 😎.
I think the .45 hit closer to the edge which is why the hole it left was a bit smaller and lopsided. My bet would be if you hit them both well away from the edge the .45 would leave a bigger hole.
Yess sir was thinking same thing
U
Exactly
I agree
Agreed
Great video I enjoyed this. People don't realize how hard it is to hit a paper plate at 20 yards with a small pistol, good shooting.
we shoot .45 cal. black powder muzzleloading pistols and revolvers at 25 and 50 yards. 25 yds ain't that hard. 50 yds is a different story.
I’m torn here. I love my guns, but I also love my iron skillets.
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There can only be one 😈
I like to grab $1 skillets at yard sales. Fun times putting big ass holes in them.
You’re torn? You should see his skillet ...
My mom would shoot me with those guns if I even thought about shooting her cast iron skillet 😂😂😂
As she should
I finally got one right! I thought all would penetrate through the pans but I was using your rifle video's penetrating 3 skillets as a reference point. Very interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Vic!
Who_Tee_Who flicks are always relaxing and entertaining. Often, they are also educational. I am amazed you never run out of things to shoot.
I feel like where the 45 hit on the edge that reduced the size of the hole. Look how round the 45 is compared to the 40
I think you meant how round the 40 hole was compared to the 45. The 45 hit closer to the crease so would have made a bigger hole. I fully agree.
I think that all three rounds should have been fired at the center of the skillet... okay you would need 3 different skillets. But yeah had the .45 been on center it would have been larger.
The 40 made a bigger hole because of the flat bullet
@@TomahawkChopa the 40 was only slightly bigger because the 45 hit the edge of the skillet...
.40 has more energy than .45.
Bottom line: Any of those three calibers will do....pick your preference and practice.
@Thomas Beaty What about 32 cal?
Yep, i agree! Practice is more important than engaging in my-caliber-is -better-than-yours debates
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Thanks for the comparison. It made me proud to know my 40 cal packs a nice wallop.
Thanks for watching Big Ron!
Heck man I just subscribed and rang the bell too. Stay safe
Hey thanks appreciate that! New video every day, quite a bit of awesome stuff coming out in the next couple weeks
Big Ron I carry a Springfield XD Mod. 2 subcompact 40. It's a little snappy for my taste, but I love it.
Springfield XD is a good choice
I mostly expected the results you experienced. The iron in the average skillet is fairly brittle. My cousin worked for a cookware manufacturing concern; he told me that the iron is subjected to some sort of treatment once the skillet is formed to harden it. The spalling around each hole on the backside of the skillet and the lack of a concave quality to the exit suggests the metal is far less elastic than typical plate iron.
It's stress relieved, not hardened.
Ya, no deformation, just pure shear force hole punch
I guess theres differences in cast iron as we shot one about month ago with Ruger 22cal and penetrating was really close.Fastest rounds was sold out so we couldnt get fastest 22cal rounds.
I'm no rocket scientist but I would have used 3 different skillets. 🐢🐢🐢
Thanks Anthony. Good point
He said they are expensive. At Walmart they are almost 5 dollars each. LMAO This nut is confused.
LOL. I think they are $8. $24 is a whole lotta money for me 🖒🖒thanks for watching!
Well, you will just have to decide what is more important, bullets or cooking implements?
It’s a open field . Calm your tits
The chef in me cried a little 😂
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I have the 40 S&W and will stay with it.
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40 H&K here. Wouldn't swap it for any
Same here man the 40 SW SD all the way
Glock 22 .40 S&W👍
Love the Smith & wesson 40 also the Colt 1911 45
Dang....I'm glad i found this comment section...prior to this i had No idea where structural engineers and molecular scientists hung out😂😂😂😂
Excellent demonstration, thanks for taking the time to put this video together! I've yet to shoot a .40, but from everything, I continue to see I'm Very Impressed!
Thanks for watching!
In the event of a skillet apocalypse, I'm with you!
😂😂😂 thanks Ed!
The movement of the skillet when the .45acp struck it was all you need to comprehend.🤣
Mr. Pan Man,, bring me a dream ,, make it cutest 45 I've ever seen!! 😂
You better just knock it off with that hilarious comment 🤣🤣🤣
I thought they would ricochet off. Boy was I wrong. And I thought the .45 would have won the 'hole size' contest if it had been hit closer to center. I think hitting so close to the edge kept the size down. jmo. Loved the video. Nice shooting!
I thought they might bounce off too. Why I stood so far away 😂
Yup i like shooting the milk jugs!
0:48 Hank Hill talking about a propane grills.
I get that comment a lot! Thanks for watching :-)
The reason the .40 made the same size hole as the .45 is due to the round you used. The .40 was a flat tip vs the typical round .45. As seen in 55 seconds into the video.
Standard 40 fmj is flat nose
The pan is a paid actor
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45 was closer to the edge. It would be interesting to see a closer shot with the 45 in the middle of the target. I think it would be bigger than the 40.
40 and 45 are actually pretty close. Depends what brand of ammo. People just don’t like the 40cal , mostly because of these RUclipsrs
Holy crap. I would have guessed 3 bounces just like you. I'm surprised at the results. Now you have me wondering what would happen with a .22 and a .380.
Surprised me
Same 40 I Carry every day. Just something about it I've always loved s&w
Though I'm sure the outcome would be the same, doesn't the skillet lose more and more structural integrity after each hole versus a new skillet?
J D WTW IS CHEAP AND A NUT JOB TO BOOT !!!
Absolutely true
Totally agree, skillet was compromised first round!
Thank you
I have to say that the .45 may have made a slightly smaller hole than the .40, however the .45 certainly moved the skillet a whole lot more.
Yea because the 45 is slower , 40 went through quicker.
Accurate
@Dr Beechas "Moving" is momentum transfer, actually WASTE of energy as the energy wasted on moving the target cannot be spent usefully destroying the target.
Basic physics, laws of conservation of momentum and energy.
The .45 hits with the greatest energy!!! Hands down!!!!!!
All that matters here is they are both better than 9mm!
How the hell will I cook my bacon now?
Microwave
It works good in the microwave, get ye one o' them plastic microwave cookers.
Every gun video I watch most people seem very knowledgeable and make lucid arguments on weapons and how to use them responsibly.
Great Video...That's Why I Cook on the " New oiless Stick Free Copper Pans with the Lifetime Warranty"
I thought you were using a real cast iron skillet. That's a Chinese copy of a skillet. The real ones are almost 1/2" thick. A .22 would punch a hole in that one you used.
Probably right there :-) Thanks Daniel
no doubt , definitely a factor to consider, my grandmothers old cast iron skillets could stop a tomahawk missile :P
Bahahaha... no skillet is 1/2 inch thick. None
You are right because the skillet my dad uses I would be amazed even if a .357 could bust it lol
Agreed.👍
I was wrong again as I need not go to Vegas and do any betting...Cool testing....Good stuff...
Hey buddy I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for taking the time to put this together and for posting. Mike, San Antonio Texas.
Thanks for watching!
I would be curious to see what a 125 grain .357 Magnum would do to Cast Iron.
Round per round the 45acp is always gonna be more deadly at handgun fighting distances if you can handle it. If your better w a 9mm then by all means rock it. It's a fairly adequate caliber and w less recoil and a little more capacity. I hate arguing calibers cause the die hard 9mm club always think your telling them that they got a small dick when u say use it if its better for you and they get offended. I like plinking w and carry a 9mm sometimes. But im 6,4 235 and stout. So the recoil on a 45acp isn't an issue for me and in a semi auto if a weapon holds 8 or more is plenty. Especially if you carry a spare mag. Most times I rock a 7 shot 357magnum w a speed load. And I'm not an old head. I'm in my late 30,s. To me its just common sense that bigger holes are better w semi,s. But all my Glocks I've ran the hell out of and they will occasionally jam. My quality revolvers never have.
I can shoot 9mm all day long. After about half hour with the 45, my wrist is telling me it’s time to stop, and I’m anticipating the recoil. And, frankly, I just don’t enjoy it. And I think that’s really what it comes down to. If you don’t like shooting your firearm, then you’re not going to practice with it. And although I’m a “woman of a certain age,“ I do love shooting shotguns. But 45s just hurt me. We are all different and weird. 😊
The way the pan reacts when it is hit by the 9mm compared to how it reacts to the .45 makes me think there's something to the whole "knock down power" of the .45
Me too! Thanks for watching!
The difference in the way the skillet bounced around is due the the difference in energy transferred AND the difference in shot placement. The 9mm bullet was only 115gr, the .45ACP bullet was 230 grams -- twice the weight, but the .45 bullet was almost certainly travelling slower.
Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. For a constant velocity, if the mass is doubled, the energy is doubled; however, for a constant mass, if the velocity is doubled, the muzzle energy increases four times.
In this case, we are not looking exactly at muzzle energy, but at the downrange energy of the round, however at 20 yards neither bullet will have slowed enough to make much difference.
The TYPICAL velocity for the 115gr 9mm is around 1,246 fps. while the TYPICAL velocity for the 230gr .45ACP is around 850 fps. The actual energy of the 9mm round would have been about 10-12% GREATER than the energy of the .45 round hitting the skillet, but we don't know how much of the energy was actually transferred to the skillet.
IF the faster 9mm round actually passed completely through the skillet it might not have transferred all of its energy to the skillet while the slower .45 round could have been stopped by the skillet (even while blasting a hole through it). Without a high speed camera to get ultra-slow motion video there isn't any way to see what happened as each bullet hit the skillet. As an educated GUESS, my guess is that both bullets transferred very similar amounts of energy to the skillet -- certainly NOT enough difference in energy transfer to account for the visible difference in how the skillet bounced around from the impacts.
So, why did the skillet bounce around so much more dramatically when struck by the .45 round? I would expect that SHOT PLACEMENT had the most to do with it. The 9mm round struck barely off center so it had to try to move the whole skillet almost straight back. The .45 round struck way out near the edge, causing the skillet to spin around, which is what we saw happen.
I 'll stick with the 9.mm and .45 they both have been WAR TESTED and the .40 is just one of the new fancy new comers like the 10.mm as well
i have a feeling a .40 or 10mm will do just as good if you are okay with the 9mm and the .45ACP
No doubt the .45 is THE go-to round for stopping/knockdown power
The flat nose on the 40 is why it was biggest
Thanks for the video, 40cal looks better than expected.
Thanks for watching!
It looks like the .45 hit the rim of the skillet and was deflected. You really should have used three skillets
Should have huh. I dont think it hit the rim. May have tho. Thanks for watching!
Going the cheap way one skillet rot all three guns
Yep, the test was a flub dub failure.
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I was thinking the same thing.. also that look like cheap cast iron pans... actually I kno they were bc of the symbol on the bottom... use a antique lodge pan, those super thick ones... good metal was used back then. 😎
That's the thinnest cast iron skillet I've ever seen.
My US made Lodge skillets are thicker than this Chinese manufactured Ozark Trail junk.
I was saying that exact same thing.
Makes you appreciate the durability of AR500 steel targets
The placement of the shot is also a big factor. For the 40, the shot landed on the upper portion of the skillet and the skillet didn't move as much (little energy loss). For the 45, the shot landed on the bottom portion of the skillet and the skillet moved a lot (loss of energy). Next time, probably hold the skillet so it doesn't move and the result will be more consistent.
Plus the rib on the outside adds alot of strength
I think that the .45 cal. Would of shown more damage if he'd hit the skillet further from the edge. The Skillet is thicker and also stronger on the curved edge.
The 40 did just fine. Face it the .45 is a joke.
@@diarrheadan8088 excellent observation
@@ejmattdelacruz1358 Idk why people won't face it. The .45 just isn't that good.
This is true. If you notice the energy transfer with the 45 was much higher too. The strike point was closer to the edge thereby reducing hole size. Regardless, the 40 and 45 would have made equivalent holes. Most important part is not to get shot by either.
@@diarrheadan8088 Your ignorant opinion is as worthless as your name. The hole on the .45 is about as big as the one the .40 made, however, the difference in energy was enormous. The .45 slammed that pan against the fence, whereas the pan didn't even touch the fence with the .40. The .45 did exactly what it was designed to do.
Never try this with a forged steel pan.
Cast iron is kind of brittle to shock compared to the steels. Different cast irons will do differently and react differently to the shock of the bullet but I tend to think a 22 mag will put a hole it in. Like others have said, look at how the 45 hit closest to the rim. More important, look how the 45 moved the skillet--that sucker was in it's death throe. It's satisfying to know when the Skillet Zombie apocalypse happens just about anything will do. The 45 created violent skillet death throes as soon as it hit. Can you try throwing a hammer at the skillet next time?
The 45 had a LOT more movement.
GREAT Shootin WHO_TEE, Those skillets are heavy but pretty brittle. You can kinda see when you hold them up and show the holes. Great stuff as always my fellow American. Hey Wensday(4th) is my birthday. Maybe if you have some old appliances laying around you can see what those 3 cals will go through.
Happy early birthday Gary!!! We will shoot off some fireworks in your honor!
Gary Allen Happy birthday.
Darrell Blake Thank you very much for the Birthday wish my friend
WHO_TEE_WHO Thank you so much. I love your Videos. Yo ur vids keep getting better and better
Gary Allen happy birthmas...
Yes I think that would be a gay idea shoot up some stuff.
Lmao I thought it was Todd from Breaking Bad for a second
For some reason, IDK why, this is my favorite of the 9v40v45 comparisons so far.
Thanks for watching David
sir you will have to make your cornbread mix really thick now
Super thick ! Thanks for watching the truth! 😂🖒
Lmao
And it shall be written, "Thou Shalt Not Abuse A Cast Iron Skillet". No more good gravy now.
Darrell Blake yeah... people don't respect the cast iron skillet the way they used to.
Too much hassle i believe for most ppl. Cant just throw em in the dishwasher like everything else
Very funny. (Wouldn't trade mine, though.)
Yeah we use them for a few specific things. Cornbread the only one i can think of
been a professional cook for 20+ years. if i had to choose one pan to use for the rest of my life, it would be my cast iron.
Cool video, I watched it a few times, especially the slow mo portions, and the .45 really moved the skillet when it hit....just proving the knock down power a 230gr round has....nevertheless, you put any of these calibers between the eyes of an attacker, and they are going down!
I like em all!
They’re going down, and the 9 people behind them are all going down too.
And grandmas across the world all cried out in unison, as a perfectly good cast iron pan was wasted!
So I had a nightmare last night and wondered why. Then I remembered there was a Hi-Point C9 under my pillow.
I keep a C9 by me in the kitchen. And a JHP 45 beside me in the bedroom. HP's are crude, but effective. I've got $250 in the pair. HP has great customer service as well.
Nothing wrong with hi point
@@devincruse6736 my wife bought me a 9mm hi point and it shoots flawlessly!!!! A good hot round and A hi point is all I need for the house. Well, besides my shotgun. Stay safe!!
I personally feel that if the 40 n 45 wasn't on the edge, they would have made a bigger hole with the 45 being the biggest.
also, you can see he hit the edge, the bullet probably split and only a part gets in the pan to make this hole...
Do you have a brother named Zac?
The only thing about the 45 shot it was on the corner of the skillet, which makes the metal stronger. For a better match U would have to have a shot closer to center.
The .40 Did the EXACT Same thing the .45 Did, BOTH on the edge of the Skillet.
Can you try this again but please use a bigger thicker cast iron pan, like the one in PUBG. Please shoot the opposite side and use a fresh one for each bullet. It should be bulletproof if you shoot the opposite side.
Bro, Ive punched a hole through a cast iron skillet with a CCI Mini Mag.
Well there goes the Hamburger Helper,........... sandwiches for dinner again. :D
Argh! I love the helper! Thanks for watching!
Legend has it that he’s still trynna redeem himself for that first shot he missed .
All three will go through.
I think the .45 won really because you hit closer to the brim on that one and had you hit the center of the pan it would have been a much bigger hole. look at the widest point blown out on the .45 and it's a lot bigger than either the .40 or 9mm
That means do not afraid of 9mm and 45 when your cover is a skillet . Get scared of 40 , it will put 1mm bigger hole. This 1mm is the key in that experiment. The guy surely will get the Nobel prize. For shooting skillets.
Put a smile on that happy face skillet.. Thanks for that
😂 thanks for watching Bobby!
Guess cast iron would not make a good bullet proof vest armor.
The .45 hit the hardest. It swung the pan more than anything. And it hit next to the edge.
They'll all drop ya if placed correctly but let's be real the 45 is your macdaddy
357 auto 😉
Most test I've seen show the .45 acp look like shit compared to the 40 s&w.
@POINTTWOFIVEMOA The hell are you blabbering about? As far as energy delivered on target, .40 is superior to both .45 and 9mm. That's because .40 has a heavy enough weight but it also moves FAST. Additionally, I get double the round count with a .40 per mag.
@POINTTWOFIVEMOA you are so full of shit. I carry a 45, and I like shooting 45. But everything you said is complete B.S.
@@markdavidson1049 Watch this video again and note which round almost knocks the skillet thru the backstop. It ain't the 9mm or 40 S&W! Clearly the 45 is delivering a LOT more "energy on target" than the .40!
Actually, a .22 lr CCI mini mag will blow through a cast iron pan! I’ve done it. So much for a .22 LR hollow point mini mag not being adequate for self defense.
GYPSY KING FURY, either one does the same thing. Actually, I’ve done the same thing with my break barrel .22 cal air rifle. At 20 yards my pellets blow through a new cast iron pan! One well placed head shot with my air rifle and you’re dead!
So hanging some cast iron fry pans all over your body wouldn't be effective armor? Damn!
Nope probably a bad idea 😂 thanks Mark!
Real thick!
Mark...Ha, that's what I was thinking...LOL..!!
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Not in the least
Cast Iron is brittle so any hard strike can crack it, every shot will punch through the skillet. I've seen 22LR actually go through them.
Iron is a brittle metal. None of these were a surprise.
Thanks for watching! All in good fun
I really thought it would shatter. It was just a guess, but it surprised me.
How much do you shoot a week good video
Shoot every single day so i can upload a video every day. A lot of work, but fun
I have done this myself and knew the outcome... Cool video though. Somewhere on RUclips there is a video of someone shooting at a cast iron water pump, same story there. Good times!!
Gonna be damn difficult to make eggs in the morning with that!
Yes it is! 😂 thanks for watching!
That pan is for swiss cheese omelets.
James Cooper ... it’s now a strainer (colander). When you want to drain things greater than 2 inches in diameter.
friends don't let friends shoot hi-points
False
Ive seen them hold up great without any hiccups as long as you use good ammo.
@@Scooby1984 well, i suppose if you dont shoot but a little and pay more for ammo, but ive seen to many fail before 1000 rnds often failures you can not except in a carry gun, and yet you can buy a much nicer Taurus for the same money or even less and put thousands of rnds through them, not saying a hi point is dangerous to shoot just why not get way better for the price? Ps i feel just the same about the old Jennings pistols
Friends dont let friends shoot 40 cal either. Lol
@@e.l.robbins5614 40 cal the most reliable out of all. Dont forget to get your nails done this weekend lmfao
Lookout! Every time I see an Iron skillet I cant help but think of ,"Throw Mamma From The Train". "YOU LIED TO ME!!!!" BONK!!!🤣
Well done for getting 3 out of 4 from 20 yards. Many tests I see are from much closer. I wonder what the results would look like with non jacketed rounds.
40 reigns supreme in my book
I would say the 9mm hole was smaller because of its increased velocity. The others made a larger hole but the 9mm would have penetrated deeper
Only so much penetration is useful, then it becomes a liability factor. ALL these rounds have more than enough penetration, diameter after entry point and cavitation then become important
Deeper penetration can actually be more dangerous to others behind the target shot. Larger tissue damage to me is more important than smaller diameter penetrations.
I go 40SW. over 9mm 24/7/365.
The pan looks like a weird little creature from The Binding of Isaac and its killin me. Hahaha
Notice how the .45 moved the target around much more than the .40 Much higher ft/lbs of energy delivery at point of impact - .45 for the win IMHO
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I'd like to see clean shots ( not next to the skillet edge ) with the .40 and .45 as the 9 was.
Separate pans, too. The shots may compromise the strength of the pan changing the variables for subsequent rounds.
U should have added a .22 LR that would give us an idea of how strong was our target
Thanks for watching! Will put 22 on the next skillet video!
I would not want to get shot with any of the three, but my service round for over 20 years of service was a .40 S&W .......I still own my old backup weapon a Glock 27 .......
Great video, I've seen similar videos kill some cast iron skillets. They made me wonder about the front doors of a wood stove. I have always wondered if a door would was body armor like Clint Eastwood, Michael J. Fox used.
The rounds they used in that era may have been lower velocity. The cast iron may have been thicker also. We'll just have to try it. Right?
Good season skillet , looks like nothing stuck
Brand new off wally world shelf 😂 thanks for watching!
Cheap modern cast-iron is actually an alloy, also that pan is maybe 1/8 of an inch thick. Try using a cast-iron pan manufactured before 1950, real cast iron that’s at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Also the Flatnose bullet on the 40 gives it an advantage, round nose bullets tend to slip and slide and deviate on impact.
Thanks Aaron!
You can still buy the real thing even ones made in the US but they are not cheap. Like everything else you can get cheap Chinese stuff that will be what you pay for.
The best non stick skillet ever made! I can't watch!