Firearms Facts: "The .22 Confusion..."
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In this video we go over .22 caliber and the confusion that comes along with it related to the difference between rimfire and centerfire cartridges.
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I'm 62 years old and remember when it was common to go to a county fair or a carnival and find the booth where you could shoot a .22 rifle at balloons to win a prize. Those were the good 'ole days!
wrightconnection I have heard some stories that at the fairs in the early 20th century the Fair owners would get a gunsmith to replace a 22 gallery gun's rifled barrel with an unrifled one and mess up the sights.
The first time I ever fired a gun was at the LaPorte County Fair (Indiana) in the 1970s, I was about 8 or 9. It was $1 for 3 shots.
Yes the good old days, even when they bent the sights, you learned after the first few shots how to compensate
I remember shooting .22 at the fair in Evansville, IN around 1980. A old 9 shot pump with octagon barrel.
John Chase Indiana love
The .22 Confusion... after watching this video, yes.
,🤣🤣
No. Still only FOUR - 22 Long rifle HV and Sub Sonic 223/556 and the 22/250. (In my humble opinion)
😂😂😂
@Ricky Robyn Appears to have been beaten by the 22-250 with has much the same ballistics. The 22-250 is very popular here in Australia and is ideal for most of what we shoot which are all vermin ie ferals and introduced species. The rest are protected including crocs.Cheers
@@baobo67 22 short, long, 223, 22-250, 220 swift, 22 hornet, 221 Remington fireball, 22 magnum, 222 Remington, 224 Weatherby, 218 bee, 204.
Look at all that ammo in the background I miss them golden times lol
Wonder what his shelves look like now...haha
Why? What's the problem?
@@lennykump8396 the biggest ammo shortage ever, a single box of standard 9mm amunition usually goes for 50 dollars, when it was once 13 dollars
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 don't remind me, man. 😂
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 You could get Herter's 9mm at Cabela's for $10 a box as late as August 2018.
Eric, you’re a sharp guy, but why have Chad on there if you won’t let him talk? Give him more talk time so the vids won’t seem so one sided. Keep ‘em coming!
Carlos Gonzalez chad just doesnt speak as much.
That's because Eric doesn't know how to STFU and let the "Co Host" speak!
actually guy on the right seems like he doesnt have the oratorial skills
Chad is like the Robin is to Batman of these videos.
I came here litteraly just to see if someone mentioned this. Poor guy kept tryna talk but just couldn't! Lol good vid either way.
Eric please stop talking over Chad. It is confusing and we want to hear what he has to say. Thank you!
It's a dance and someone has to take the lead and someone has to be a power bottom
No, you can shut up. We don’t need to hear what chad has to say; Eric is bigger
John Dough i
I was not going to leave a comment initially, I actually wanted to see if I was the only one that felt like Eric needed to stop interrupting his partner there, and stop talking over top of him when he tries to make a point. Not only is it irritating but it makes me want to unsubscribe honestly, if you can't get past that.
............You may be the boss, I don't know, but if you are the boss then you really need to work on your management skills because that's just weak. Not that we don't love to hear what you have to say, just let somebody else talk as well, they might have good information that you need to stop interrupting them from communicating. Anyway I still love you're videos just if you care maybe try and work on that. otherwise keep putting out the great video. Thanks
@@Felix-rc4wv seriously what is that supposed to mean????
One .22 cartridge not mentioned, that was of particular interest to me was the .22 Hornet. Excellent whitetail deer cartridge under 100 yards as well as varmints out to 400 yards.
Yea
I’ve heard good about that bullet. I haven’t seen them in stores though
Do you have any idea where I can find a gun and the bullets
I agree. Grandma Darlene used to hunt caribou with a .22 K Hornet, back in the day, when she lived in Fairbanks, Alaska. She later upgraded to a .223 Remington and successfully took down everything up to and including Moose.
You might have been a good enough marksman to bring down a deer under 100 yards. But I do believe most hunters would just wound the animal and have it run off and die. I am 79 years old. My dad gave me my first rifle, a Remington pump for my 10th birthday and I have hunted deer, elk, ducks, geese, pigs rabbits, all kinds of game . I consider myself a good marksman, but I would never hunt a deer with a 22 Hornet.
@@danclayberger770
While I have to admit that my 'go to' white tail rifle in my area was the Winchester '94 30-30 for the common 'less than 50 yards' brush gun, but, for the "clearer" areas I preferred the Hornet. The Winchester was open irons while the hornet had vintage "optics" that I could hold a $.50 group at 80 yards. The ONLY shot I would accept at those yardages was 'head on' between the eyes. Never had a 'runner'. One shot, one deer.
Nowadays, with the diabetes, massive weight gain, failing eyesight and heart troubles, I am limited to reminiscing of hunts long ago.
Ken
You read my mind
Doesn't mention .22 hornet REEEEEEEEEE
i feel you brah
Xplodicon 'tis ok /k/omrade we shall get them next time
Dude seriously lol. "What's the first thing that comes to mind when you think center fire .22?" 22hornet22hornet22hornet22hornet
Stone's Garage -DFW Hornet is the only Centerfire .22. Besides, one might have thought Long Rifle, but xplodicon was wondering why the Hornet wasn't mentioned, since it is the largest .22 and with it's centerfire, a hybrid between the regular, well known .22 and the first "real" rifle cartridges... in my opinion.
Exactly that what first came to mind when he ask "What the first thing you think of when you think of .22 centerfire?"
I don't really put .223 in the '.22 category' even though it is.
Why am i watching this! i don't own a firearm and i live in Europe! stop making this look so interesting!
im from germany and i like firearms!
Where do you live? In the most european countries you can own a rifle without big problems.
Just get a Hunting License in Germany and you can own as many Firearms as you want.
There are Hunters in Germany with huge Arsenals.
The only thing is that you cant fire them in your Backyard or your Farm ^^
So, basically the differences between Germany and the USA relating to Firearm Ownership are pretty similar.
You can even buy a 12,7x99 ( Metric System FTW ) in Germany without any Problem.
+Wilko Stomberg We can shoot them in the back yard or farms. It did surprise me when I learned that Germany was not as strict on guns as a lot of European countries.
Question for you Wilko (French gun owner here): How are the German gun laws regarding the Cat. B guns (handguns and semi-auto rifles such AR, AK, etc...). In France we have a stupid 12 guns limits, and some calibers (such 5.56x45, 5.45x39, 7.62x39, 12.7x99 and 14.5 Russian) are falling in this category. Do you have any limit in number of firearms you can legally own? Danke, Tschuss! ;)
PS: Be careful about the new EU gun law proposition that should be voted in July...
Most people "hear 22 and think 22 LR".
Because .22LR is the most common .22 caliber round
Should have talked about the .222 and the 22-250.
I have 2 boxes of 222 that I founded. I have not seen a 222 in years.
Barry Cogswell I thought you died
plenty of 222's in aus
shot many deer with .222 mag 55 grn. my browning olympic 22-250 will drive nails
Quiet right, 222 a brilliant round killed off be 223 but the 22-250 is alive and well. I have a Mauser in 22-250 and is best calibre and action I have ever had and I have had a few.
Guys, the 5.56/.223 was actually a late comer. We were shooting .222 and 222 Rem Mag, 22-250 and 220 swifts a long time before the .223 came out.
Yep
There are times when more information is not informative.
Kevin White often the case on this channel
Totally agree Kevin
This would be super overwhelming if I were new to guns/ammunition and solely relying on their videos for information. I cannot imagine coming across these with little-zero knowledge starting out.
@@bp4548 I have a little bit of knowledge and this is fairly confusing. I sort of understand, but them throwing out numbers and terms super fast is confusing because I have to think about it for a second.
Ok. If it says 556 then it can shoot anything. But if you get a 22LR then it will only shoot 22LRs and not 223s. Its kind of confusing but its not that hard.
now I have to install a flobert arcade range in the shop
I'm in the process now lol
Ichiban Moto i see a draco
Ichiban Moto 7
Just don't start selling liquor at the same time
Can I come play? I will bring my own ammo.
I think I somehow lost knowledge watching this
more in depth than you thought me too
Ya I should go to bed
What’s the first thing you think of when you think centerfire .22? (Simultaneously)
Them: .223
Me: .22 hornet
Me 222.
Agree -- .22 Hornet
.22 Remington Jet
FN 5.7
.220 Swift!
The 6mm Lee Navy wasn't the only early US small-bore cartridge, the .276 Pederson came very close to being adopted as the primary rifle cartridge for the US prior to WW2!
A lot of people don't know the Garand was originally a 10 shot
I always wondered why the eight mag capacity.Thanks you learn something new everyday.
The main reason .276 Pederson did not get adopted is because of Macarther(excuse the spelling I'm not used to touch screens). John garand was also working on making a 30-06 rifle before the military trials. If im not mistaken most of the trial rifles were in .276
+james lamping Sort of. As I know it, the leading cartridge in the trials was the 276 and came very close to being adopted, generally being regarded as superior to 30-06. As you say, at the last moment the general intervened supposedly on the grounds of standardisation and logistics, with the army having recently tooled up for their machine guns and existing service rifles. As such, the trials were re-run with 30-06 Garands, resulting in the creation of the M2 Ball ammunition due to overpenetration and range safety concerns.
The .276 Pederson also had a lubricant on the case that may have caused issues with sustained firing.
.22 PPC is a different cartridge than the 5.45x39. The .22 PPC was originally a wildcat based on the .220 Russian cartridge. The .220 Russian is essentially a 7.62x39 necked down. It was a Russian sporting cartridge. The guys who invented the .22 PPC took the .220 Russian and improved it with a 30 degree shoulder and less case taper. It is one of the most efficient and accurate cartridges in the world. Arguably the most accurate short range benchrest cartridge is the .22 PPC's big brother, 6mm PPC which is the winning-est BR cartridge in history. The 5.45x39 has a smaller rim and body diameter than the .220 Russian and .22 PPC
.22 Hornet and .222 Remington are shaking their heads. Triple deuce will always be my favorite though. Super flat shooting for prairie dogs
Back in the day the 222 was the one to beat on the target range. They built the 219 zipper,220swith, 218 bee, 221 fireball to try and beat them but the 222 out last them over time because of the barrel would last longer
At 12 years old I shot my first impala with a 222.
EXACTLY! 💯 % They're going to talk about .22 but COMPLETELY IGNORE THE TRUE .222 AND THE .22 HORNET! SMH!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡 not to mention the .221 Fireball; or the .218 Bee!! Lmao!! Guess they're just ADDING TO THE .22 CONFUSION!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never give the gun grabbers an inch.
You got that right! They want an inch today then another inch tomorrow and another inch the next day and before you know it you will be their slave if you are lucky. That has happened too many times in history. As they say "History repeats itself".
I don't mind to give them a fraction of an inch... like 22/100 of an inch ;)
+Phil Smith aahh.. nice one.
You're wrong about arms confiscation in the USSR. During and right after the red revolution arms were confiscated from the rural peasants but this had to be partially rescinded because of how important rifles were in feeding and protecting the rural population so the ban on hunting rifles was rolled back. All military style arms and hand guns were still prohibited for civilian use and confiscated.
Well they just took the whole west coast. Commiefornia and now Oregon will soon fall.
I wasn't confuse aboot 22's but I am now ...Yikes ! I'll just stick with my 22 longs.
Right?
Lol
You mean long rifle lol I struggle to find any longs
Wow half way into the vid but it seems as though .22hornet won’t be mentioned. It doesn’t seem as popular as it once was. Hell I would like to see a vid on just it. I’m 100% against poaching but I had an uncle that deer hunted with a 22 hornet. Head shot only but he didn’t starve. my dad still has the has the reloading dies
Mitch LaMoure ...Yeah me too
You guys have got it good. God bless America. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Looked forward to this video. I'me one of those .22 caliber confused guys. However, I scrolled through the comments section which I usually do. Very first comment was race baiting about the Holocaust. Then it went on and on and on with nasty name calling and crazy statements that made no sense. Guys, please do your fans a favor. We watch you go to the range, review guns and impart your firearm knowledge on us. WE WATCH YOUR CHANNEL FOR FIREARM KNOWLEDGE, NOT HATE RANTS. When you see these guys do this trolling hate shit please block them from your channel. Remember we don't come here for that. Thank You.
Comments have nothing to do with the video. If you don't want to see it, don't scroll down. I love firearms but that portion of the community does exist and will surface in some way or another no matter where you go. Your best solution is to grow thicker skin.
***** What do hate rants against Jews or Muslims or anyone have to do with firearms? Nothing. Are there sites I can find with some sort of hate rants? Sure are. Gun owners have a hard enough time against anti-gun and neutral-gun people, who could point at comments like that and say"Do we want people like that to have guns? Hell no we don't." And I would agree with them. I don't need a thicker skin you have to wake the hell up. As gun owners we don't want to project some kind of wild crazy persona.If you have people like Ted Nugent saying stupid shit all the time, we'll loose everything. His talk is "AMMO" for gun-grabbers. You first sentence, comments have nothing to do with the video"> Ok Do you watch a video on cooking and then comment on some type of gun you shoot or something? What's wrong with you?"
+joe batters They do try to manage their comment section, I've seen it, but it's very difficult for any large RUclips channel to keep their content section clean. If you want to blame someone, blame Google for their crappy comment system.
Joseph V Thank you for your comment. I never see those hate rants on Hickok45. I realize these two are pretty much anti-anything that is anti-gun. I get that and in your enthusiastic support for something you should not personally attack a politician with a different opinion. I realize it is difficult because we all want to take that cheap shot.This was not even the usual blind hate remarks against President Obama and Sec. Clinton that unfortunately are all over the gun channels. These two let kid trolls ruin an otherwise good gun channel.That entire first section of comments had NOTHING to do with the subject of the video. Which I thought was a good informative video, by the way. They have a lot of subs is this the message they want to preach? Anyway, I have rambled enough, thank you for your comment.
+Shlomo Shekelkikenberg ...???
What about the .222 caliber?! That is where the .223 came from!
Killed quite a few deer in my youth deer hunting days!! great cartridge too!
+Doug Fowler Very popular in Europe where .223/5.56x45 was or is banned because it is a "war caliber". So civilians used alternative such .222 Rem
+Phil Smith maybe that's why I have a really hard time finding 222rem ammo... that's interesting!
224 is nato 5.56 , 62-67 grain. So another one to add to the confusion
Doug Fowler yes, obviously in the US it's hard to find because there's also not real interest. The .223 is slightly faster and widely available. But in Europe, it's still used by hunters like .243, 6.5x55 or .308, .30-06 and then easily available in stores.
You guys I think Eric just had too much coffee this morning lol he’s just goin and goin and goin
Yeah, he has a tendency to repeat himself, a tendency to repeat himself, a tendency to repeat himself....needs to use a script/teleprompter to keep it more concise. I don't have the time or patience to listen to someone who takes 20 minutes to say what can be said in 2 minutes. Otherwise, it's really good info!
I thought that & worse.. maybe something illicit maybe!
I found myself losing interest (fast) in something I'm interested in. (eyes rolled in my head and spun about 50X or more. ...zzzzzz)
@@WJSpies lol Eric is the LAST person to go snorting random shit. Trust me.
Last time I came this early the UK was still in the UE
ha!!
EU.......
+TheAlexagius lol good correction
they are still in the EU
+TheAlexagius depends ,it could be Ue or eu...
I just got my first ar yesterday
Well done !
now you have to defend that right to own it
+Mystic Foresight right on
careful ar15 tend to multiply like rabbits
+Hi its Me for me its shot guns
That was very interesting, well done guys!! I won’t laugh at my buddy’s AR-.22LR any more...
Nope, that's still a joke.
Beonwater1 nah, you can still laugh at it
Laugh and stand in front of one 😏
I must be dumb. I'm more confused than ever.😶
me too. If i have to listen to 2 people talk at the same time I cant understand ether of them.
You ain't the only one my friend!
Eric did not put effort into preparation. There are no anchor points in this talk - just anecdotes in no particular order. The 22s has a few distinctive lines (22short, 22lr line, 223 line, 220Russian etc) that would have helped to organize this much better.
Learning about calibers is like learning English. There is often no rhyme or reason to it and there are rules that are routinely broken. There are professionals who have been working with guns for decades who are still learning.
Not brand new but still pretty new to this I been watching researching and reading on so many elements the engineering and mechanics is either overlooked or underrated over and over from caliber to type of weapon and if it's ammo specific etc the list goes on but one thing I keep seeing is the best conversations from actual Americans sharing knowledge and experiences like neighbors having a beer on their porch together. Thank you all for being so helpful. May God Bless You and America!
It's unfortunate that the fellow on the left interrupts his partner so much, talks so much, and is generally so boisterous. He comes off as feeling superior and it's quite off-putting. Otherwise, a neat video, I love shooting .22. The guy on the right actually seems to be more knowledgeable than the guy on the left, who sounds a bit more like a textbook than a person. Ah, just my .02. Cheers!
The guy on the right is alot less comfortable on camera he has said this and that is why he doesnt talk as much
The guy on the left is the actual owner of the channel. The guy on the right is probably just happy that his buddy asked him to become internet famous.
I had a Flobert or what I knew it as the BBcap when I was a kid.
You really missed a big step with the .222
The .222 has always been my favorite round.
even bigger step with the .2222
(poor sattire)
I've inherited three boxes of .222. Sadly, no rifle.
David Muir bring me that fireball ammo :)
Center fire Remington .222 is a stout round for it's size. 5 or is it 6mm has replaced it though and they covered those lots.
love how you just go straight from rim fire 22s to the 5.56 nato. I would of meantioned the 222 remington, 22 hornet, 220 swift amd even the 222 magnum.
22 savage high power
.22 nosler .224 valkyrie?
Guys laid an egg on this vid
@@chasmofsar2691 pretty sure 224 valkyrie didnt exist 3+ years ago when this video came out...
@@BryceKimball7.3 great point; I guess it's more by way of suggestion, as there is a lot of call for them to do a new video on the subject (preferably centerfire only) that is more comprehensive with fewer tangents.
220 swift at one time was the fastest production shell
It would be great if you guys could dedicate an episode to the 6.5mm / .260inch calibers such as 6,5x55 SE; 6.5 Creedmore or the .260 Rem.
I'd like to see that too
Yes, please.
338 fed. too
Daniel Lea
264 Win Mag is a hot, flat shooter! Kevin
Me too
Those 30-06 accelerator's were NO joke. For anyone curious, I chrono'd a box of .308 and 30-06. Average 308 velocity was 3200 FPS. .30-06 was a staggering..4300 FPS. LOL. The 30-06 ones made the LOUDEST crack I have EVER heard.
I remember those, as a matter of fact I still have some in the 30-06, 22 cal and 55 gr. My rifle grouped them 2" at 100 yrds.
William Mawk yup.....have .30-30 and 30-06 for many years..... They have now started manufacturing them again......stopped making them for a few years.....accuracy was a question mark with the early ones
No way did it go 4300 that’s 204 speed
Nathan Valdez 204 doesn't even remotely approach 4300
Nathan Valdez 300winmag accelerator flies out at 5,000....too fast.....no good
the first thing for me that came to mind when you went .22 center fire was the .22250 that was a very popular round hear in Canada. It was used for long range varmint shooting. The only problem was the wind, so a lot of us were using .243 witch also was a tack driver. A hillbilly friend of mine was using the .22250 but had trouble in the wind on the long shots. So I lent him my .243 on a windy day, when he got back he went straight to the gun shop and picked up a .243. It is one of my favorite rounds, but hear on in PEI we have to stick to .22 cal for hunting so I use a .223 in a savage one with a 21" light barrel and one with a 26" heavy barrel for those long tack driving shots.
How did ya'll let them take your gun rights?!
You touched base on many viable .22 but you never mentioned .22 hornet
.221 Fireball, 5MM Rem, 223WSSW, 22 Stinger....
.204 ruger
It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out that neither the 5mm Remington Magnum Rimfire nor the .204 Ruger centerfireare .22s.
.22 Remington Jet
I remember an uncle had a .22 hornet in about 1955. I don't know if you can buy a rifle chambered in Hornet, but the ammo is everywhere. It was a popular round for years. Another high velocity center fire round was the .222.
I think my 22-250 mauser is rated at 4300fps. that's stupid fast.
22 hornet how you forget it
I love 22-250 it's the greatest predator/varmit round because the trajectory is completely flat out out to 400 yards
it is a great cartridge. but if i remember right, shooting a 55gr federal v shock, my round would drop 1inch at 250m. hence i would zero my rifle 1inch high at 100m. still a very fast flat round.👍
missed 22 hornet
29:40 - great point, and a missed opportunity to explain the primary reason to stay away from rimfire. Rimfire shoots dirty.
22-250??? How do you not mention the king centerfire 22 shell the gun shoots 40-55 grain and can do some serious damage
Phillip Hagenson varment hate auto correct
The swiss army knife of cartridges
22 hornet
Phillip Hagenson 220 Swift is the King of 22 rounds.
THAT WHY EVERYBODY MAKES IT EH
I have a marlin model 25, it's one of the greatest 22's there is, very accurate
Remember the 221 Remington Fireball, I'd love to see a show on that. Remington made both a 700 classic as well as the 700 pistol.
So awesome You guys referenced the Savage 99 in .22 Cheetah. I own two 99's, one in .300 Savage and one in .22 Cheetah. Excellent rifles and I love them to death. Before I purchased my SoCom16, I handloaded my .300 Savage to be my ".308" for testing various bullets. It's actually quite similar to .308 case capacity so not a huge difference. Going back to the Cheetah though it is fun to shoot albeit more expensive than .223/5.56 but it just has character. Every time I range them people ask what the hell it is lol. All of my friends are into strictly ARs and polymer wonders and I love my ARs too but there is just something about a wood and steel lever gun that's twice as old as I am still functioning 100%. The craftsmanship is just something you don't really see these days; hell the Mag follower in my Savage 99 is solid brass, when's the last time you've seen that in a modern sporting rifle lol. Great vid as always guys!
you guys forgot my favorite small 22 cartridge, a 22 Hornet!!!
You ain't the only one my friend.
It's got a somewhat flimsy case. Funny, reminds me of the profile of a .30-30 Win.
I think I prefer 222 Rem. Superbly accurate, long neck.
Always thought a .22 WMR but in a rimless Center fire makes sense. For very high capacity auto loading pistols, like Kel tec;s. Is it possible or not, if possible has it been done already?
22Velo dog was a rimed center fire almost identical to 22 WRF WRFM lead bullet black powder load
I have my father's .218 Bee varmit rifle from the early 1950's. The .222 came out around the same time, so the .218 never enjoyed the same degree of fame. It is still a good round for shooting small game and varmits, particularly when using semi-jacketed hollow point ammo.
very nice video but I was wondering was the 22 hornet rim fire or center fire?
centerfire
+Shadow thanks I thought was but I was drawing a blank, during the video.
Centerfire. Arguably the smallest centerfire/reloadable cartridge.
Center fire
Porty, not even remotely close to the smallest centerfire reloadable cartridge. I have some friends with a 14/221 Fireball and some 10 calibers.
The .222 Remington, also known as the triple deuce, triple two, and treble two, is a centerfire rifle cartridge. Introduced in 1950, it was the first commercial rimless .22 (5.56 mm) cartridge made in the United States. This came out before the .223 and 5.56. It was the precursor to these cartridges. Eugene Stoner experimented with it on early M16a1. also the .222 swift and 22-250 came out in the 30's.
I love the remington .222! I inherited mine from my father, it's a great rifle and even with the 50 year old scope that's on it is extremely accurate.
I love my glenfield model 25 it goes everywhere my Chevy does. Countless rounds through it
This year I turn 61 and I've been involved with firearms since I was 15 and including a 5 year stint in the military and I learned some good stuff today. TY guys, very good vid.
22/250 55 gr. remington copper jacket hollow point 🖒out of a remington mod. 700 vls. custom
wow let the other guy speak....
he does that a lot...
Well it’s his channel...
did you guys do a vid on the FN 5.7 yet? I might of missed it
hi tactical i love your content keep it up! greetings from germany
I can't seem to find it
Hey Tac wassup playa... Ehm iam pretty sure that they have a fiveseven Video online. Stay strong brother
sup playboy
Yep a 5.7 video would be interesting... I would love to see if a reload with some 50-52gr bullet would work ;)
Killed my first deer in 1988 with the 6.5*55 about 15 yards away on the weekend juvenile hunt here in Tennessee. I was 10 years old. It was facing me head on. I hit it directly between it's 2 front shoulders. Dropped it. It didn't move. I was shaking like a leaf as it walked slowly towards me and I was lining it up in my scope.
Watched the video till half way through when you said you had no .22-250's
Great video, I really appreciate the detail you put into these videos. I like how you say this just scratches the surface. I could listen to stuff like this for hours (and usually do). Keep up the great work!! Thanks
How I wish I'm an American citizen...love the freedom to carry and conceal...!!
Until you get into an accident
Hope you can come join us one day!
Nickalls Chin Su Loong I won't say do it anyway a lot of folks here do🕶"
Come on over
Your missing out
Look up "nominally." It does not mean what you think.
Nice catch word smith!
These guys are great. I feel like they could talk forever and it always be interesting
In Canada we can have rifles with 5 round mags or a 22 in 50 round drums... what would do more damage, I actually wonder, 5 30.08 or 50 20lr
Depends where you put the round
We use 22-250 more than 223 and or 556 in canada.Could you do a lil video on the 22-250 Alot of us up north would love it
Thompsons Everything Outdoors I love mine I have w Remington 700 adl with a Simmons scope accurate as heck
22-250 best coyote medicine 😉
The 22 hornet came out 25 years before the 223 and is a very good round.
First round of centre fire
.22 I think of is the .222 a round that predates the
.223, and the fastest .22 is the .22-250 Hornady Superperformance that moves at 4,450 fps.
"I say we like I have a frog in my pocket."
ROFL!
What about 22. Hornet?
and 218 Bee?
Aguila 22 snip subs dont stabilize out of long barrel cuz it spins so long in rifling it slows a bit
What about 22 Rem Jet and .222 Remington?
22 hornet , 22 hornet K . you guys skipped around too much.
22 Savage High Power too. It was the father of American, high velocity, 22 center fire chamberings.
just two questions: original airforce survival armilite rifle was Horniday 22. why did the civilian ar7 use 22 long rifle? not a magnum? why was Hornaday round not used?
i have shot all brands of 22 ammo. federal was the worse at jamming. CCI brand was my go to round: less jams, never a misfire. Remington usually had at least 1 misfire per box.
This was a really good video, very informative, I learned something new today. Thanks guys.
Y'all forget the rare Remington rimfire 5mm magnum that was made to compete with the 22 market
Michaelnoblehvac - while the 5mm rimfire may have been intended to compete with the 22mag, it's nominally a 20 caliber and doesn't really fit this particular discussion of "22 caliber cartridges" and their differences. (It is a pretty neat cartridge, though).
22 hornet ,204 cartridge 243 220 swift,there is so much 22 variations I like your review on the .22 thank you great review .
Thank you! You guys covered Charles Newton's 1912 5.6×52mmR. Also called the .22 Savage High Power or the .22 Imp.
.228 caliber
Like wrightconnection, I remember when it was common to go to a county fair or a carnival and find the booth where you could shoot a .22 rifle at whatever the guy had set up. Being reminded of this was like a kick in the gut. I remember all the other things you could do that Political Correctness, over regulation, nit picking legislation and enforcement and all the other changes to our society. I'm 75 years old and frankly, I wouldn't want to be 21 and live in the crappy world that man has created. I look at the blithering idiot we call president today and cannot fathom what Teddy or JFK would say. I... I'm not going to list my large number of complaints, but you get the idea. People like Musk have figured it out: Get the hell off this planet and away from the evolutionary failure the 'average' man has become. The four horsemen may have been biblical fairy tales but they now are near to corporeality. So, youngsters, good luck with that.
Before someone jumps in and says that I was part of the history that made it this way. No I wasn't. I spent 50 years of my life working to stop what was happening and at best only slowed things a little. I did try.
.22 Hornet. I see it's been mentioned in the comments already and it is a fine cartridge. Thanks for sharing this video fellas. Merry Christmas.
They made a 22 extra long rifle . I think it fell off around the late 1920's
FAT LOLO yea then they just put the 22 mag as it
hey guys, i shot a .22 bolt action rifle today for the first time. it had a 5 round magazine. it was really fun! id like to get the Browning BL 22 but that cost over $600.
step up get a 223/556 for that price
Jacob Infante ok ill look into that thanks man
ok ill check that out thankyou
.22 is a great, all around fun cartridge to shoot. Whatever you choose have fun and be safe
vwa 98 yes you could get a s&w m and p15
Great video,
One of the .22's you didn't touch on is the .22 Hornet. It was used by the military in their survival rifles like the M4 Survival Rifle and the M6 Survival Rifle , as well as the Armalite AR-5 Survival Rifle.
Enjoyed the video , thanks for sharing.
JT
23:18 one step forward, two steps back... Eric failed to utter the keyword --- barrel life. Smaller bore and large charge will get you this 22-250 effect ---- you bust the bore rifling after 500 shots.
That's an interesting thing.
I'm in Great Britain and my local police force chief inspector asked me why I wanted two .17 calibres ...I had a .17hmr at the time..and I was applying for a .17 Hornet worlds apart ...
TWO GUNS? is that allowed over there
@@Sube-Tube No, you can have more or less what you want, but it a case of proving to the police that you have a good reason for having them. i.e deer stalking, clay shooting..
Loved my Rem. 700 chambered in 17 REM.
BTW this informative video is so convoluted I'll have to watch it several times to get it. Confusing? Yes, to say the least. Jeez! You guys should do a video on the 204 cartridge. Fast as hell.
I built a 7 twist 22-250 that'll sling 95 grain sierras. The sierras and the Berger 90 grain are just awesome looking. And excellent ballistics with minimal recoil. I love the ultra fast 22s
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OK, I may have the answer to why the .22 subsonic stabilizes in your pistols but not your rifle. Subsonic rounds hate long barrels. After the powder charge burns up quickly the barrel actually slows down the bullet creating drag because the gasses are no longer expanding and pushing the bullet.
Jimmy Carter Sub-sonic rounds don’t “hate” anything. They are inanimate objects and cannot perform human functions.
Sarah Watson he is using a grammatical tool called onamonapia. So I hope your being sarcastic and not actually dumb enough to not understand what he means.
DhayRock DeMore For one it’s not a “grammatical tool” it’s a literary technique. Second off it’s spelt onomatopoeia. And lastly the term you were searching for is ‘personification’. Just needed to drop this here.
Onomatopoeia is to spell out a sound. Eg. bark, woof, grrr, snap, etc
@@sarahwatson7692 Sarah, one might ask if you have any inanimate objects that you "love" that can perform human functions and are kept in, say, your nightstand ?
Asking for a friend.
great vid, your excited your passionate and your way way overttalking the other guy, we all do it when we have a passion. work on your timing with each other and the flow of the information will be even better keep it up and thank you for this video
Anybody else that lives in Maine that watches these guys? Love and support from Maine 👍🏻
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207 Garage I live 50 or so miles from them lol I'm live in Vienna georgia they are around Macon georgia
Yep I live in maine
If a .22 out of a 30.06 case can do 4000fps imaging .22 out of a .50 bmg 6000fps+
theres a point in velocity where it cant maintain stability. at that speed a ".22" might actually have to be placed into a sabot at 50cal with stability fins added. then a ".22" will be able to theoretically fly at that speed. this is of course hypothetical with minimal knoweledge on reloading and manufacturing of ammunition.
Some .22 wildcats can theoretically exceed 6,000fps, but after around 4-4,500+ the projectiles disintegrate right as they leave the barrel
+Hughes Enterprises it could maintain durability with the proper metal and if its a sabot it wont matter how had the metal is. and out of a 50cal it can be very long and flighted.
+lilbigmorgan I'm talking just about conventional lead/copper bullets. They just vaporize.
why has no one mentioned the 22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer yet. ;-)
.223 Wylde .30/30 Winchester. .243 Win. 150gr FMJ. 78 gr (5 g) Lehigh Defense CQ110 gr (7 g) Hornady Black V-MAX24 in (610 mm) barrel short-barreled rifle.machine guns / suppressors / short-barreled firearms, “Wild West” era of the 1800s; handgun fitted with a buttstock and a barrel shorter than 16 inches in length.
AR15 chambered in .22 hornet would be cool.
The hornet case was pretty flimsy. I don't know if it would stand up to the AR15 action.
Brethren of Yeshua
IIRC, someone made a 22LR adapter for the AR-15 that you could fit a 22LR magazine into, functional & cheap solution.
plinkity plink plink plink plink vs boidy armor.
Brethren of Yeshua me no
.22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer
@Franklin Rodgers
Yeah....straight from Steppenwolf - Snowblind Friend album! LOL!
Ken
There was what I called a .22BB that looked like the Flobert mentioned. And the .22-250 ????????
Tap on the brakes Eric. Share the informational time with Chad. I"d like to hear his side of the story. BTW.....nice job fellas.
Yes. and don't talk so fast. He isn't completing sentences and is making speaking mistakes too.
It’s Eric’s channel bud. If Chad wants to talk more, he can go make his own channel and get millions of his own fans.
@@TheShalomstead why have him on the video if hes not going to let him talk and be a part of it?
Wayne Campbell ask him Bro, it’s not my video.
I've got a marlin 738 that says 22wmr only does that mean 22 magnum
Wayne Hall .22 Winchester magnum
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Winchester Magnum Rimfire is what WMR stands for.
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Is that a 5th element reference?
Probably not but it is what jumped into my mind immediately lol
The 5.56th Element?
What about 22 hornet 🐝
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I have a mint 1962 Savage 99 in 22 highpower(cheetah in your book) my grandfather bought brand new. I can't find that round anywhere in North America. I can order S&B from Europe in large quantity but it isn't cheap. Being in Canada our Liberal federal government is making it hard to get certain ammo and guns. They're slowly choking us out of ammo and guns. Heads up, your Democrats don't need to seize your guns when they can dry up the ammo. I live in Alberta and western Canada is finished with the federal government. Hopefully we leave Canada and join the US.
there was also a round called a 218 BEE
219 zipper also
They are not 22 calibers wildcat rounds to complete against the 222 on the range. Barrels didn't last long enough
@@robertfudge9745 No, it wasn't. a 218 Bee was not to COMPETE against a 222. Actually tht 218 bee got some acceptance, but not a lot, 218 bee was meant for varmit hunting.
Case length: 0′ 1″
Bullet diameter: .224 in (5.7 mm)
Parent case: .32-20 Winchester
Neck diameter: .242 in (6.1 mm)
Rim diameter: .408 in (10.4 mm)
Manufacturer: Winchester
Shoulder diameter: .329 in (8.4 mm)