Ranking Ocarina of Time's Dungeons! (2019 Tier List)
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Sure, there might be 64 Things WRONG With Ocarina of Time, but it's time for Josh to rant for over half an hour on which dungeons are the best!
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Did you change your channel name? I recognize your voice... but I’m not remembering this channel
This channel used to be called Really Freakin' Clever! I no longer just do the 64 Things Wrong videos, and decided I wanted a bit of a rebrand.
Gotcha! I was about to say I recognize you but didn’t remember being subscribed to this channel
jishua can you still do the 64 things wrong with?
Please?🥺
Dragon Blane Z Kai
no
Mike 786 😱😰😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Josh over here not even a minute in and reviving decades-old arguments over temple order
Now _that's_ what I like to see
I didn't even know this was an argument...the entire game points you towards the Shadow Temple first aside from anything else
"You can get out scott free, but a lot of people are gonna get trolled"
What a Slogan for Russian Roulette
Tier list for the shrines in Breath of the Wild = 4 hr video
24 hour video
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 knowing his luck, the RUclips servers would crash at the 21.5 hr mark. 😏😏🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GamingWithLeppy I feel like if the dungeons didn't have the same aesthetic as the shines I would've enjoyed them more. The 6 we have feels like it isn't enough to me but only because they were all samey. For reference I was content with Majora's 4 dungeons.
Okay you mentioning how the Forest Temple introduced keys to 3d make my mind explode because I somehow NEVER realized the child dungeons don't have keys.
Just wait till you realise that the top down 'a link to the past' was a 3d game. There were multi layered puzzles involving you pushing blocks down floors or changing water levels. That game is secretly a 3d Zelda and nobody could change my mind.
@@blakejohnson9823 I know you're probably just doing semantics for semantics sake but come on man.
@@Triforce_of_Doom you right. Sorry to disappoint you my Triforce.
@@blakejohnson9823 A Link to the Past was more of a 2.5D game-a 2D game that tries to simulate aspects of a 3D world.
How could you not notice?
First time I played the game by the time I got to Forest Temple I was like, "oh snap, its got keys!!"
Water temple is literally an s tier dungeon
Probably the best in the whole game
It's only held bad by the poor design of the iron boots
A-GREED! It is that one dungeon I love playing after a long time because it feels fresh again.
10/10 but screw the iron boots.
I'm halfway through the Fire Temple and about to start the Water Temple. 😓
If it is S tier it shouldn't be held back by anything let alone literally one of the main mechanics of it......
@@jameslowell9656 you can't really call the UI/menu a "main mechanic" of a dungeon when you use it all game
@@yungthunder2681 when a specific dungeon requires heavy use of the UI that other dungeons don't, it is absolutely part of it's design . Are you really telling me the iron boots aren't a main mechanic of the water temple?
"The Shadow Temple should be completed before the Spirit Temple"
Alright we can end the video here I already gave the video a like
I’ve probably played the game 5 or 6 time but I’ve never done the spirit temple first and I swear there are puzzles in the spirit temple that are easier with the hover boots.
I never knew you could do the Spirit Temple first before Shadow... I almost always do the Fire Temple and Ice Cavern before Forest Temple though.
@@5-Volt you need the bow in the fire temple, how do you get past that? Or do you get the bow from the forest temple and not complete it till after the fire
@@m.a3152 Really? I don't remember having a bow when I did it
@@m.a3152 What puzzle do you need the bow for? If it's the crystal switch one I'm thinking of you can do some shenanigans with bombs.
I would personally put Water Temple in S tier. I actually like the design and the puzzles in the dungeon a lot but the N64 version just made it tedious with the iron boots.
I kinda like it on the ds version but the final room leading to the boss where you walk up the ramp with the spikes on it is more annoying than the mumps.
A or S tier in isolation, easy, good match of theme to aesthetics, puzzles that require thinking of the dungeon as a 3d space rather than a series of isolated rooms, sense of exploration rather than a guided tour going through it, all that good Zelda Dungeon goodness. And anyone ranking it below A tier based on 3ds is memeing on it for historic reasons But the N64 implementation of the iron boots? Makes it an easy D.
@@bigmanroadman3910 not really, I always found it a lot easier honestly than the rest of the dungeon
I found it difficult, but it was still fun (I played the 3DS version), but it got annoying just because I lost my Zora Tunic to a Like-Like and didn't know how to get it back. I only had the Adult Wallet at the time.
@Zachary Erickson I love the water temple and hate the forest temple. Phantom ganon's fight sucks. fight me
I'm a water temple defender. I won't say that it deserves a higher tier, but it's not as horrible as people make it out to be. Once you learn the dungeon it's cool. I was lucky and I grew up watching my brother beat it so I learned through him. I have to admit that it took me a ton of playthroughs before I memorized this dungeon, it's definitely the most complex dungeon in the game.
My fav dungeon is the fire temple actually.
This was incredibly fun I’d love to see you do this for other Zelda games, especially Twilight Princess
*3 Things to Make the Water Temple Easier*
#1-Golden Scale (dials back your reliance on the Iron Boots when going through corridors)
#2-Farore's Wind (you're able to warp back to a water level switch of your choice)
#3-Biggoron's Sword (it's available at this point, so why not go get it?)
At least the pictures of Volvagia, the boss of Fire Temple and Morpha, the boss of Water Temple are not shown. At least they show Gohma, the boss of Deku Tree, Dongondo, the boss of Dongondo Cavern, and Barnicade, the boss of Jabu Jabu are encountered as Young Link, and for Adult Link, they show Phantom Ganon, the boss of Forest Temple, Bongo Bongo, the boss of Shadow Temple, and Twinrova, the boss of Spirit Temple are also pictured on the screen.
I like how you actually go into detail about your placements. A number of tier list videos I've seen just toss them around with minimal explanation or just make a joke about the placement and nothing more.
You got a favorite Zelda dungeon of all time, out of all the games? Personally I love Stone Tower Temple, it challenges you to use just about every power you've gained throughout the game and even puts an extra spin on it with flipping the dungeon. However, Dodongo's Cavern in Master Quest just *flows* really dang well. It isn't super complex or puzzling but it lends itself well to a natural sort-of deftness that just feels really good to play through. It adds fun new elements to the dungeon that, in my opinion, elevates it from a great framework for centralized dungeons to a great dungeon in and of itself; even for experienced Zelda players.
the vore aesthetic of lord jabu jabu's belly was so brave of 90's nintendo.
Don't think Nintendo had any concerns about some strange fetish a very small fraction of people have when designing that dungeon. Being inside the belly of a giant beast is an age old trope that doesn't have any relation to "vore".
Shadow and Spirit are S rank because they start with S......that's how it works right?
3ds water temple is good except for that one key nobody remembers to get
To me, the worst aspect of the Water Temple aren't the Iron Boots or the forgotten key. It's the terrible boss at the end. It's so underwhelming, uninspired and simple, it takes longer to write this comment than to actually fight Morpha.
epic temple bad boss
SPIRIT TEMPLE WILL ALWAYS BE FIRST IN MY EYES. SHADOW TEMPLE CAN GO JUMP OUT A WINDOW
YOU HAVE TO DO AN EXTENSION TO THE SHADOW TEMPLE TO DO THE SPIRIT TEMPLE. I rest my case.
Waffles SPIRIT TEMPLE IS THE BEST TEMPLE IN OOT :D
RedDeath5 water temple is the best one
Be careful Josh, no matter how you rank these somebody is going to crucify you in the comments section.
The irony is that, even if Water Temple is in D, that still forms an F.
how exactly does that make sense
@@HCN-002OldChannel the icons of every dungeon form an f on the list
Having not played Ocarina of Time, I suppose I have no choice but to accept your tier placements as TRUTH AND LAW.
"Water temple is a solid D" oh my 😳
MegaAlberto96 Ruto: *Heavy Breathing*
When the dragon statue rises from the ground it resembles a wee wee
Yeah,it’s difficult to choose but it’s probably a hard D
We need this for all of the dungeons man, make it happen!
somebody is gonna make a joke about how the first dungeon of the game is litteraly inside a living tree that is the closest thing Link has to a father figure and by saving the Deku Tree, Link also kills him
(also, where is the sky temple)
(also also, that was a joke and I know it isn't real)
(also also also, C.O.P.P.A. better not fine jishua)
I think you were a little too harsh on Ganon’s Tower and a little too light on Ice Cavern and Bottom of the well. Come on, just ask yourself which one you’d rather play: I’d never choose one of them before Ganon’s Tower. Besides that, I mostly agree with all you said, Forest Temple is my favourite one, and I never thought that way about Dodongo’s Cavern, but totally see your point now, made me even wanna play it on the spot. Great video :)
The water temple knows what it did. It had it coming
Fun fact: barring certain sequences because of the flags being triggered in the code by certain events, you can complete the temples in any order! It's purely up to the player (if memory serves, you can complete the Water Temple before ever entering the Fire Temple, and we used to always do Fire Temple after obtaining the bow).
I did Fire > Water > Forest > Spirit > Shadow
This was pretty fun, would love to see more. what about wind waker or twilight princess?
The forest temple is one of my favorite dungeon in the series
Anyone who thinks Jabu-Jabu's belly & the Water Temple are bad and hasn't played Oracle of Ages doesn't know the true horror of Jabu-Jabu's belly.
S
Forest Temple
Water Temple
Spirit Temple
A
The Great Deku Tree
Dodongo’s Cavern
Shadow Temple
B
Lord Jabu Jabu’s Belly
Fire Temple
Bottom of the Well
Ganon’s Castle
C
Ice Cavern
P.S: Yes, I like the water temple
Great explanations. Thank you for your insight :)
Couldn't figure out where to go for at least 2 hours then I realized in the tower room or the the room that just goes up and it's like a like a square Tower or what do we call that a column it was underneath the one block that rose up hindered my progression lol
about the water temple, i can't be the only person that used the map for vertical thinking, right?
That's how you find that impossible key in the N64 version.
Damn, Jabu Jabu is my favorite child dungeon. Also I like how you added the dungeon themes in the background for each dungeon you talked about.
Tough list. I can barely name my top five since they are all so good.
/Forest Temple
/Water Temple
/Fire Sanctuary
/Snowpeak Ruins
/Snowhead Temple
It's a point of contention that Shadow Temple comes before Spirit Temple? Who played the game wrong?
EDIT: To clarify: Sheik literally tells you the medallions in the proper order. Spirit comes after Shadow.
Digital Unity I only did spirit before shadow cuz I was scared of shadow ;-;
I like the Water Temple and would probably place it in B honestly. I like it mostly because it forces you to rely on more then just your sword since it doesn't work underwater and isn't the best option for the Shadow fight. Also the Shadow fight is dope as hell. It does have annoyances, my biggest being the time block behind the Long Shot which got me lost for a good hour, but I would argue no more the Fire Temple.....though I hate Fire Temple so /shrug.
Water temple SSS
Yeeeeeeeees
I agree that the Shadow Temple should be done be done before the Spirit Temple, and originally I did it that way. But then I forgot to save, got pissed, and decided to hang out in Gerudo Desert for a while.
The Water Temple mechanic of raising/lowering is literally the flushing/clogged toilet of the game. Back half isn't bad (serviceable boss, Shadow Link), but God almighty did I just want to take a giant plunger to that first half.
S - Forest Temple, Spirit Temple
A - Fire Temple, Shadow Temple, Dodongo’s Cavern
B - Great Deku Tree, Ice Cavern, Gerudo’s Training Grounds
C - Jabu Jabu, Ganon’s Castle
D - Bottom of the Well, Water temple
Liked just cause deku tree was A tier.
Putting the water temple at D gave me physical pain though, it’s one of my favourite dungeons. (I play the 3ds version though).
Yesterday I wanted to do the spirit temple before the shadow temple bc why not and on of the rupees you have to collect require the hover boots so i went to the shadow temple killed dead hands then went back to the spirit temple
As a water temple defender... I always did as much as possible on each water level before changing it again, and always explored as much as possible at any change. It's a dungeon built on exploration, and I'll give those against it one point. You do move slowly in the water, but that's any game in the series not named Majora's Mask.
Objection! I actually LOVE parts of Jabu-Jabu as a dungeon in Randomizer. I love how you can go in there and be like "Oh shit, I don't have the slingshot" and still be able to hit the roof switch by throwing a well-timed bomb, and later on, by throwing Ruto at it. The parts that get infuriating though, are the ones that require the Boomerang, only because it often ends up being a rare find in a Randomizer run.
Twilight Princess Tier List. Do it Josh. DO IT. I DARE YOU.
So, if you'd like to do tier lists on game levels, then I've got a few games to suggest:
- Super Mario 64
- Ultimate Doom
- Doom 2
S: Spirit Temple, Forest Temple
A: Shadow Temple, Water Temple
B: Fire Temple, Dodongo's Cavern
C: Ganon's Castle, The Bottom of the Well, Jabu Jabu's Belly, Inside of the Deku Tree, Gerudo Training Ground
D: Ice Cavern
This was a very enjoyable discussion and tier list. These dungeons are my favorite part of any game, I love them so much I made Mario maker levels of every dungeon 😂
What about ranking every single water temple in Zelda?
They're all D-tier
@@mushroomwings3236 Ancient Cistern would like a word with you.
@@Triforce_of_Doom listen fam, I haven't played Skyward Sword yet, so that's just the opinion I have of them in general. People's high opinion of it and the one time I watched my brother play through it actually makes me excited for when I finally decide to play the game myself
Everything f except for ancient cistern which is s
@@mushroomwings3236 fair enough. And while I feel this warning is obvious, while I personally love that game, favorite Zelda before Between Worlds happened, I don't think I need to tell you how split the opinions have been.
Shadow before Spirit? My man.
Of course, I still have to leave my own ranking as if anyone actually cares.
S: Forest, Spirit
A: Water, Shadow
B: Deku Tree, Dodongo, Well, Ganondorf's Castle
C: Jabu-Jabu, Fire
D: Ice Cavern, Gerudo Training Ground
Fire temple and water temple are s tier
I honestly can’t believe the hate that the water temple gets. When my buddy and I were 8 years old we thought the water temple was amazing so it’s definitely not too hard or annoying.
I will agree with you on this point though: the water temple is a lot more frustrating the first time playing through. IMO it’s more like a wine fine. The more it ages in your memory the better it is.
If you play the game once every year or so you begin to appreciate the beauty and complexity of the dungeon from recall. You can argue that no dungeon in this game is particularly difficult, but even for an adult whose played this game 20 or more times the water temple still challenges you.
I just want to say that on my first playthrough, I cleared the Spirit Temple BEFORE the Shadow Temple. Not on purpose. It just happened that way.
Dongo Cavern is F tier my guy
Shadow temple is before spirit temple because I could’ve sworn I had to use the hover boots for something, and if you count the well as part of shadow temple you need the lens of truth to get to the spirit temple
Water temple is the Toby flenderson of Zelda dungeons
I feel like the first 3 temples always have a pattern
The Forest Temple or Deku Tree get you started on the world you're in (child or adult)
Fire Temple or Dodongo Cavern give you a better feeling of the structure while being slightly harder
The Water temple or Jabu-Jabu always are meant to test your knowledge of the temples and how well you are at moving through it
I concur doctor
@@warrenwierciak4859 Legit understood none of that
Means i agree man
@@warrenwierciak4859 Ok (I can't think of anything else to say)
Great video! Can you do Majora's Mask next?
everyone knows the water temple is S+++ on the teirlist
I personally don't mind the iron boots in the menu on the N64 water temple, it's having to go through the whole cycle every time I want to change the level that really annoyed me my first time.
Maybe because I played a few other 3d Zelda games but the exact reason he likes Dodongo's Cavern is why it's pretty low for me. It just isn't memorable for me unfortunately
I don't buy the Nostalgia argument with Ocarina of Time because the game has some of the best pacing of all time. However there is a certain Nostalgia with Dodongo's Cavern. Back in the day everyone had Zelda for their N64 but only a few were good at it and most of your friends that weren't good at Zelda would be stuck on Dodongo's Cavern.
My Ocarina of Time dungeon tier list (chronological order)
S: Forest Temple, Bottom of the Well, Shadow Temple, Spirit Temple
A: Dodongo's Cavern, Ice Cavern, Gerudo Training Ground
B: Inside the Great Deku Tree, Fire Temple, Water Temple
C: Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly, Ganon's Castle
There are no "D" or "F" dungeons in Ocarina of Time as far as I'm concerned.
But by the time you enter the water temple you will probably have found the great fairy that gives you Farore's wind. So you can place teleportation point in the water level switch
Great! Now do every other 3D Zelda please (The Lakebed Temple wasn’t that bad)
Great Bay Temple was a fun challenge!
@Alice Collins mmyes
IMO I hated the Lakebed temple. 2nd worst dungeon in that game, behind that ice dungeon. I played through most of that ice dungeon wearing the Zora armor, wondering why I took so much damage, and assumed that was simply how damaging it was. Wolf link takes less damage but I assumed he had resistance to ice attacks. I NEVER expected a zelda game to create armor that had a weakness. Zelda never does that in any other game.(Unless I am wrong)
Gabon’s castle.
Failed all the homework but aced the final
I actually liked the water temple, also The super mario bro's movie was fun...
Hold me like Ruto so I know it's real
So is there gonna be a Master Quest version of this list? Now I kinda wanna play Ocarina of Time.
I mostly agree but would swap fire and shadow temple and move spirit temple up to S
Twinrova doesn't troll after merging. She shoots 3 of one magic, then 3 of the other. If you listen, you can get to it at the right time.
But being predictable just makes her a worse boss.
Wait...do people really complete the Spirit Temple BEFORE the Shadow Temple? Miscreants!
I know that you are not going to do 64 Things Wrong With anymore, but could you at lease finish Wind Waker in some way?
I did the spirit temple befor the shadow temple ones but you need the item from the shadow temple the hover boots
I hate dodongos cavern because the music is just the terrible cave theme. It's just not memorable
Yeah.. In the aesthetic department it is just a cave at the end of the day. I'm surprised Josh put such a big divide between it and Fire Temple because Fire Temple is pretty much Dodongo's Cavern 2.0. In theme and mechanics.
i cant ever see the water temple as bad, because i first played ocarina of time when i was 5 or 6 and got all the way to ganon back in the day. i may or may not have had similar issues as everyone else with it, but the problem is, i just dont know anymore. i dont remember to have had major issues with the water temple. and since then, i learned it in and out by memory, knowing just the right flow of actions, so i am bound to never have a issue with it. the only thing i can agree on because of that, is the iron boots issue.
fun watch Shadow was interesting. i feel it was more designed to literally torture you if you didn't have the lens of truth which through my first playthrough i had no clue exhisted i did the whole dungeon without it until i had zero clue how to defeat the boss. it wasn't until a friend told me about the well i was ohhhhhhh this is alot easier,
but the atmosphere in this game is unmatched amazing how alot of the dungeons make you feel through the music ascetics puzzles and fine touches.
I don't want to meet anyone who goes through the spirit temple before the shadow temple
I recently played ocarina of time and I think water temple is my favorite
Josh not capitalizing his channel name is a peeve
I came from Botw so you can imagine my surprise when I found out that while in Botw, puzzles are usually "Oh hey! I got this shrine figured out! If I use this ability on that block and then shoot an arrow at it, it goes into this hole and now I can progress!", Ocarina of Time is usually "okay there's a giant pillar and a hole... What do I do? I'm gonna consult RUclips in stumped... Oh I see, you have to blow up the bottom of the pillar, take steroids, get a high school diploma, and then push it in the hole while similataneously drinking 13 shots of whiskey. How did I not figure this out?"
Yeessss! Truth! The Shadow Temple is totally before the Spirit Temple. By God, that's what it says in the guide, and that's good enough for me!
Ye because you need to get the hover boots in the shadow temple to actually do some parts of the spirit temple and the lens of truth and the lens of truth is close to the shadow temple so why not do it next. However the game for some reason wants you to do Spirit Temple first because if you look at the pause screen on the Quest Status part it shows the Requiem of Spirit before the Nocturne of Shadow and it shows the Spirit Medallion before the Shadow Medallion
S: Forest Temple, Spirit Temple
A: Deku Tree, Shadow Temple, Ganons Castle
B: Fire Temple, Ice Cavern, Jabu Jabu's Belly
C: Dodongos Cavern, Bottom of the Well, Gerudos Training Grounds
D: Water Temple
Actually im gonna swap ice cavern and dodongos
Water temple is s tier
@@urbanduck9934 you think having to open your menu everytime you have to put on or remove a key item in the temple is s tier worthy. The final boss in the dungeon is probably one of the worst in the game, and the dark link fight although aesthetically appealing is mechanically terrible. A lot of the rooms look the exact same, its easy to get lost, having to constantly cycle through the water levels if you fall or have to back track is tedious. The rest of the dungeon is okay, not leaving much.
Aonuma cannot make a water dungeon that isn't confusing as hell.
He just can't. He is physically unable to. It is the one thing he cannot do.
You do a good job mentioning the level design.
My 1st run through Water Temple went pretty well, tho the game glitched at the time block above the whirlwind river part. I would play the song of time over and over and the block wouldn't work. The next time I played, it miraculously just activated after failing a few more times. Also you say the Ice Cavern is entirely optional, that's incorrect. You need to go there to get the Iron boots, and you can't beat the temple without it.
I got stuck in Inside the Deku Tree as an idiot kid because I didn't know at the time you had to burn a spider web, and I couldn't figure out how to climb the ledge right next to that (I'm talking about the room below the spider web that you fall through). So for me personally it did not do its job at teaching the mechanics.
I hope you do Majora’s Mask next!
I did the kid stuff, then forest temple, water temple, fire temple, then spirit, then shadow. Honestly I was surprised when I learnt u were supposed to do spirit last.
I never got to experience the true feel of ocarina of time because, I got the 3ds version however those times won’t be forgotten: the great Deku Tree got me thinking for some days, Dodongo’s carven the dreaded dungeon that I always hated, Inside Jabu - Jabu’s belly the easiest dungeon with a boss that I always died on, The forest temple an easy dungeon with a hard way to get into, The fire temple I always thought it was just a new and improved Dodongo’s carven, THE WATER TEMPLE this temple was so hard me and my friends spend a whole week figuring that thing out..., The shadow temple was interesting to say the least the boat was the part that I always died on, The spirit temple I always thought it was easy but my friends hated doing that and last but not least Ganon’s castle I don’t remember this one to fondly mostly because I was sick but I remember Ganon played an instrument (Piano I think).
Unpopular opinion, I liked the water temple. Now JabuJabu? He's the real villain. Fuck getting that fish!
Isn’t it common knowledge that Shadow Temple comes before Spirit Temple? This is coming from a guy who usually enjoys doing Spirit Temple first because of how much more I enjoyed it over the Shadow Temple. Even I can understand that the way I tend to run the temples is sacrilegious. XD
Water Temple I gave up for two years.
Context: I borrowed my friends 64 in like '99 and got to there no problem. Although the Forest Temple was a bitch my first time. I bought my own 64 on blowout in 01-02 and finally beat it about this time 17 years ago... feeling hella old
There are people who do the Shadow Temple last?
that’swhat_gsaid I literally do the Shadow Temple first every time
I loved the vid! I think I'd give water temple a C or B. Yes it's hard as hell lmao, yes the main area is sorta boring but it's the other rooms in the dungeon that make it unique. Amazing design overall. It's just hard and annoying
OMG, I just cannot get over how many times That awful perverted part of my brain giggled by how many times you used the phrase “give it the D” 😏. Sometimes you make me Ashamed of myself. But seriously good vid (Very close to my personal opinion save for just 1-2 maybe)
Also maybe instead of upper C tier you could just do a B- since it’s still an actual grade, and pretty dang creative, don’t think I’ve ever seen a minus grade used on one of these 🤔 LOL
Holy crap, did Josh change the channel name back to RFC?
water temple is easier in master quest as the longshot is in the middle room of in the door way where you meet ruto again
Luckily the 3ds version has the iron boots as an equipable item but yeah i thought i could transfer keys from different dungeon tell me who would've thought that there's a key under the water part of on spot
I would have to give the Gerudo's Training dungeon a D because the Ice Arrows were pointless and there was a chance you could stuff yourself up with the keys and the locked doors.
It was not necessary but the dungeon itself was a mess and would be given an F tier if it was a required dungeon to go through.
But the Gerudo Desert and the Fortress I would give it a A tier because it was fun to be a stealth Link and the desert path to the Spirit Temple was enjoyable even if you only needed to do it once.
I like your list the only thing I'd change is the Water Temple. I have a certain respect for how tough that dungeon is. Although the Forest Temple is the perfect dungeon. Its almost as tough as the Water Temple but its not quite as confusing. Fire Temple and Spirit Temple do a great job at hiding there linearity. The Shadow Temple does a good job at what it does. With OOT there isn't one weak dungeon. Jabba Jabba's Belly is pretty interesting design and Kingdom Hearts sort of copied it.