It's so sad hearing that u will only continue gaming this state of the art videogame if "the video does well in yt". I hope you continue the game, its absolutely mesmerizing. And will help you a lot with the fear to the ocean. It happened to me as well, TWICE: once with subnautica and once more with phasmophobia.
Somehow how I doubt the game will help me with fear of the ocean, lol. And in the end, this channel is pretty much just a hobby and I have so many things on my plate that I can't really justify continuing to put time into a game without at least some sort of financial incentive. Otherwise I have plenty of other things that would need to take priority.
@@ThroarbinGaming well if you are looking for a financial incentive, its clearly not just a hobby for you. Not that thats a problem or anything, but hobbies do not really give money, they cost money.
@@madsotzenandreasen7145bold move to insist on your own peculiar definition of hobby for a stranger. Though with all the entitlement in these comments I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
@@DanKaschelHobbies can make money, it's just a matter of is someone choosing to do something specifically for profit, if profits is the goal then that is not a hobby that is a job. Throarbins comment makes it pretty clear that his priorities are profit driven, that is not a hobby. And that's fine, he doesn't have to treat youtube as a hobby.
42:00 While I agree somewhat with your point about games not hiding vital information in menus, I'd challenge you on the degree of that, would you prefer that every time you meet a new enemy in a game, or a new resource, that the game suddenly lists all the uses, or abilities and stats for that enemy, or lists off all it's weaknesses or special drops. It's fine to say people learn as they play, but the fact remains people don't try to think most of the time when it comes to games, if you encounter a problem it is usually 'my first attempt failed, I'm not at the stage to do this yet', sometimes taking a few failed attempts before someone stops being stubborn. They will skip over dialogue, skip through help menus or try to skip past spoken lines, they will try to 'figure it out themselves' without help and a whole range of things, and stacking more and more information on them each time they do something, gets more tedious than reading some of the related information. And I much prefer games giving access to the information and lore within the game, than having to tab out to look up most of the information, theres a reason games like stardew valley have in game wiki mods and other things. Why Monster Hunter as a game series gives you weaknesses and drops for monsters you encounter. It reduces a massive amount of burden on the player to memorise everything the first time around. Although subnautica could do to improve by listing that important information first, rather than at the bottom of each log, it does drive people to reading it more often than not. Since you've actively gotten sulfur in this game it would be easy to make that an example, what stops players from completely missing a game mechanic in getting sulfur, because it is tied to a 'negative event' of being attacked. Is that the sort of thing a player needs to be told in the middle of the panic facing the first instance of sulfur? "Oh by the way while you are being attacked, go harvest near it." Players wouldn't have the headspace to remember and act on that. Putting it in a log or giving people an incentive to get closer to that, in itself lets the player explore more. As a side note, I assume it is poor wording that 'you should never store important information in menus' could be misunderstood as 'never log story-related information' but I doubt you are making that specific point when you've used the audio log to re-read some of the radio messages for information. As a minor edit, the prompt to swap out batteries does show up, but only when the tool runs out of power, this would theoretically reduce the amount of words on screen at any one point in time.
I'm a little confused about your point as I don't actually disagree with it entirely. I'm not asking games to list or announce all of the information about everything out in the open. For things like creatures you can put the info in any log you like so long as simply encountering and messing around with them can teach you the same information. I'm referring to information that's vital for progression that is stored away in a log without the player's knowledge. Like I find a pda with very important info but I'm just told I got a pda and then lets say I'd gotten pda's before and read them only to find no useful information, why would I bother checking the future ones that might actually have it?
@@ThroarbinGaming yeah I do agree with that part as there are some PDAs in the game which will straight up have codes to side doors but then others are just world building. The Devs didn't completely streamline information even if they tried to summarise some parts of the game. While it can be seen as rewarding additional engagement it can be a burden for players at the same time. As a minor spoiler for stalkers assuming you haven't read the log yet, the Devs explain a specific resource and how to get it including a summary at the end of the log but then do a bad job explaining how you can hold a fish in your hand to feed them in a similar clear way. It's the sort of thing where you have to decide at what point is it not vital information if it is still solving a problem for the player with the AIs behaviour.
@ThroarbinGaming I understand where your coming from on this, however when I did my first playthrough of subnautica I did so without reading any PDA, except for one or two related to the Aurora, the game is able to be completed almost purely by exploration, unfortunately however these survival type games like subnautica, minecraft, and terraria are horrible at teaching new players, these game expect you going into them with some level of knowledge of video games, which probably explains why you have a lot of issues with this game in particular as aposed to games like portal, lethal company, and titanfall 2 these games are either straight forward or tell you anything and everything you need to know to complete them. Having someone who doesn't have experience with playing survival games play subnatica for one of their first games is like having an Amish person build a pc, they may know what some parts of a computer are like a keyboard, monitor, or a mouse, but they have zero clue what a cpu is or that it gets installed on a motherboard. The point I'm trying to make here is that, I think subnautica just might not be the right game for you at this moment in time, its also possible survival might just not be your genre of choice, these games are all about exploration, learning how the world works, and slowly grinding your way to be able to get through more difficult areas, for example, in minecraft, you start by punching a tree, you then make tools (note, minecraft didn't always have a crafting recipe book in the inventory) then you go caving to get stone, iron, then eventually diamonds, you then go to the nether (another note, the game NEVER tells you how to make a nether portal, ruined portals give you a hint but it never told outright) in the nether you get ancient debris and an upgrade template to make netherite tools, then you find a nether fortress, get blaze rods, got back to the overworld, etc notice how almost all of these things are things you would eventually do if you were playing minecraft with no knowledge? Subnautica is playable in the same way you just have to explore and collect (collecting includes scaning EVERYTHING you come across) eventually you will naturally progress and with time comes exposure, it's proven that exposure therapy helps to alleviate phobias, this is true with scary things in video games. The Five Nights At Freddy's series got stale because it was the same thing over and over again, and the same thing will happen with anything you might find scary in subnautica, you just need time in the game. That all being said it's your decision to keep playing or not, I personally think the game is worth it as the story is truely amazing and there are some really breathtaking biomes in the game, but if you don't think its worth it then there's no reason not to drop it, at the end of the day, gaming is about having fun so if something isn't fun to you then don't play it.
How could people not think this is interesting? The way you describe your journey through the game, is incredible. Also I think you’re the first person to react as strongly to all the creatures, most others get scared first and then just stressed by them. I hope you will continue playing, and at least I will come back to watch the next episode, whenever it comes out
There is a difference between "horror" and "terror" and Subnautica has itself firmly nailed down in the "terror" category. The thing that separates terror from horror is that terror occurs almost entirely in your own head while horror happens in front of you (think zombies n whatnot). Subnautica uses vastness, limited visibility, and general alien vibes to make you psych yourself out. The cure for terror, interestingly enough, is simple: exposure. The longer you spend time with something terrifying, the more you understand about it. The more you understand it, the easier it becomes to predict. The easier it becomes to predict, the less terrifying it becomes. Spend more time in Subnautica's ocean, explore carefully, and it will bloom before you like a fishy flower. Think of Stalkers as an example. The first time you encountered them, you swam back to the life pod and cowered on top of it. This time around, you stabbed one you had trapped with a knife. They're not as scary anymore, are they? That's because you understand them a little bit better. Believe it or not, but that exact same psychology applies to Reapers and every other big fish in the game. You got this, man. Also go back to the Aurora's reactor and fix the damn thing; all you need is a welder. >:(
@@ThroarbinGaming The Aurora's reactor! Where you found the cyclops upgrade! It's leaking radiation into the environment and needs some holes sealed with a welder! :O
@@mudnarchist Aaaahhh, don't shit on the guy. It might seem obvious to us, those who already have a conceptual model of how video games typically work in our heads, but like he says: He's not really a gamer and he's playing catch up on stuff he missed out on. It might take him some time, but he'll get there.
Responding to 32:00 Humans kinda don't have a depth limit when using diving equipment. Submarines keep the air at atmospheric pressure, so they deal with absolutely enormous forces pressing on them. On a human body, the only particularly compressible region of our body is our lungs and some area in our ears. Diving suits pressurize the air you're breathing to match the pressure in the area. Yawning or swallowing opens the tubes that equalize the pressure in your ear to the air pressure in your body too. This means you don't experience a pressure differential, and generally don't have much of a problem purely due to depths. Where we get a problem is from depth/pressure changing too quickly, which Subnautica doesn't model.
Well said. Breathing a gas under a higher pressure means more of it is absorbed into our bodies. When ascending this needs to get out again. Doing that too fast is like opening a coke bottles quickly: bubbles that are dangerous. The deeper you go (and the more time you spend at depth) the longer you need to spend going back up. At some point you need too much equipment (for example 6 or more tanks of breathing gasses and hours of time spent waiting) just to spend 15 minutes at depth making it not worth it. Subnautica skips this decompression step completely.
There's a mod that adds decompression and ascent speed limits to the game, though it's more forgiving than in reality. It's a fun mod though. Imagine being chased by a leviathan and having to stay in the water.
@@Yggdrasil42 that sounds rough. My cousin got decompression sickness almost 10 years ago and has permanent numb spots on his fingers and toes as a result. He does free-diving now as a result to reduce/eliminate the risk of decompression sickness. Having that in Subnautica sounds pretty frightful, lol
Diver here. How does the pressure on the body changes depending on the depths? Every 10meter under water the pressure on the body increases by one "athmosphere". The "atmopshere" being the pressure the air has on a body when on sea level, also called Atmospheric pressure. So 10 meter under water means the pressure of 2 atmosphere and so on. The record of deep diving was set in 2006 with a depth of 610meters (2000 ft.) with the appropied deep diving gear. In terms of inventions the C-Researcher ( a oneman piloted Submarine, which looks similar to the seamoth or vise versa) has reached depths of 3000 meters ( 9843 ft.) So 200meter isn´t all that much xD
Well said, but for a normal scuba diver 200m (660ft) is basically unreachable. Normal divers dive to 40m max and it takes quite a bit of training to go to 45/50m since decompression is commonly required. Below that one usually dives Trimix (a gas mix with added helium). Diving below 75m already takes a ton of training and equipment (advanced trimix with hypoxic gas mixes). I'm a cave diver with most of that training and yet I have just a few friends who have ever dived below 100m.
Yes but in the late game you have to be in insane depths, at most 1700 meters, but you can still explain that as your magic futuristic suit creating counter-pressure or something
@@ΒασίληςΒλάχος-τ3κ I have no idea if it's true, but I read that the theoretical limit for a human is 1000 meters due to the gas mixtures required to go lower being toxic. So assuming that's true, Subnautica is pretty reasonable given its advanced technology
You also have to consider that those depths listed in OPs comments are based on Earth. If the gravity on 4546B is less, then pressure would be less underwater.
I mean no disrespect but personally, your mentality of "This might be the last stream," "I probably won't continue the game so why bother looking at the story" etc. really pulled the enjoyment out of it for me even though I had really liked the first video. Your channel is based on people that play X game coming to watch you react to their favorite moments from X game, but this kind of attitude just feels insulting to those who values said X game. Just some feedback to think about for your future series. As for Subnautica, this should probably be your last video still, as it clearly didn't interest you all that much. Nothing wrong with dropping games you didn't vibe with and saying so. It's better than forcing yourself to play for potential content.
100% agreed, though he actually said the video didn’t perform well enough as the reason for not continuing to play. That mentality really rubs me wrong. It makes me wonder, what’s the point of starting to watch one of your series if you won’t finish it based on metrics?
@@imahaloguyexactly, it makes me want to wait till I can see if he finished the series before I watch any of his videos. Which in turn will hurt the metrics since I'm not watching when it comes out.
Yeah... games like Subnautica are basically built on discovery, and much of that takes place as reading because such is what can help to create that immersive vibe of slowly piecing together what's happening, and the like. Plus, survival games in general, among many other genres, do kinda demand a bit of willingness to check some directions/keybinds/et cetera. If you're going into such with a prejudice against the very notion of ever having to read, and judging it to always be some kind of knock against the game if it tries to require doing so, then it's just not a good match. As a comparison, it'd be kinda like playing Portal with no subtitles and the sound off, because of deciding in advance, without giving it a chance, that "games shouldn't have dialogue." Or mashing through something like undertale without reading, for a more direct comparison. Like, sure, you can absolutely do both, but, well... if your goal is to see what people like about a game? That can't happen if you're policing what parts of the game you're willing to engage with. TO BE CLEAR! It's totally valid to like what you like, and there's no *wrong* way to have fun. But, well, as far as content is concerned, people tend to watch blind gameplay because they're excited about the shared experience of someone else's discovery and such. If you're pre-judging and avoiding some part of the experience, based on your own assumptions about how it should be? People will have a lot less fun with that. No one enjoys feeling like something they think is cool is being dismissed as bad before giving it a chance, after all. I will note, as well, that people will basically always hate when others seem to be speaking negatively of the design for a game they like, unless it's either an experience they can relate to... or something you can basically support with evidence. It's totally fine to share your confusion or frustration or whatever else, as that's part of what people *want* to see! But keep in mind that you don't want to be too quick to blame the game, itself-- or rather, you don't want to *sound* like you are. If the vibe you're giving is "wow, I think this is dumb and bad," to every mechanic that gives you trouble or trips you up, then people start to get *stressed* about the discovery, and will get *much* more aggressive about trying to backseat, too, which just spoils the fun for both sides. Either way! It's always best to play whatever *you* find fun. It's always neat to see someone stepping out of their comfort zone, of course, but, well, "if it isn't fun, what's the point?" So, still looking forwards to whatever might be next, after how much fun Portal and such were to see a fresh take on. The most consistent way to "make numbers go up" is basically always reliant on how much fun YOU can have with things, at the end of the day-- entertainment is contagious, after all!
Hahaha, I always loved that part. I have been playing & watching Subnautica for years and I had never visited their channel and I finally did a few weeks ago. They really have some funny stuff. I am glad they gave them, Markiplier and Jacksepticeye and others some in-game recognition.
Well that's part of the point, I didn't even know they were important, especially after I listened to a few and found not valuable information contained in them.
@@ThroarbinGaming I thought your point was that you didn't want to read walls of text. Listening to audio logs isn't really different than listening to the radio(minus some coordinates) and it only requires like an additional click or two to play them. The only other option would be for the devs to force play them the second you found them, which might be annoying for other reasons. Sounds more like a lack of investment in the story than an inherent problem with accessibility of information. It's not like the game secretly hid all those PDA logs from you.
If you dont like the game, dont play it, thats no problem. You shouldnt force yourself to play something. But I think deciding what to play based on how the video performs isnt a good idea. Gaming is a hobby, its meant to immerse yourself in a world that you enjoy. If you fundamentally only play a game because a specific video performed really well, or stop playing a game because a video perfomed bad, goes against the core of gaming itself. If you dont enjoy doing it, why do it. If you enjoy doing it, why stop?
Well I don't actually know if I'm enjoying it is the thing and I wouldn't be opposed to continuing. The issue comes from Subnautica being a long game and me having very little time in my day. I can only justify this hobby by the videos doing well enough to help pay the bills and so playing a long game to make videos that don't perform well makes no sense.
@@ThroarbinGaming Thanks for your reply. I can completely understand that, but Subnautica with about 30 hours of game time is not really a long game compared to other open world games. If you feel like you can spend your time in a different game and have more fun, I would say do that. You will never play even the best 0.1% of all games anyways, so dont spend your time playing a game that you dont enjoy. IF you enjoy it I cant tell you obviously. But for me I too wasnt sure if I liked it or not. Just after finishing it I realized that I was sad that there it was over so quick, and I really took my time and explored every inch of the map. I would describe Subnautica more as an experience than a game tbh.
you really are having the perfect experience of subnautica. I hope these videos do well because I would really love to see more! about the PDAs, the only ones you really need to pay attention to are the voice logs. they're fully voice acted so you can just hit play and keep playing :)
Hey if you had repaired the reactor on the Aurora it would stop the radiation leak and you can take off the radiation suit for something with better protection.
Subnautica genuinely helped with my fear of the ocean, though it took a while. Love the story, and everything else tbh. Really hope you keep going and see what it offers, cuz we’re just getting started!
Man, i absolutely hype subnautica to anyone i can - i encourage them to stick with it, learn the story when it shows up, and be blown away by the end. The terror just makes it really, really feel like you accomplished something. And dude, the crafting is CLEAN. you use your old gear to make the new. No trash needed. You're also being impatient and overly critical. I've actuality found subnautica to have one of the nicer ways to handle keybinds - promps when needed I didnt read the logs until i felt like it eather. The voice logs however, are the story beats. It's designed thst way so when you're screaming away from a reaper you don't lose info.
I've seen a review of this game's scary side that expressed horror as what you see, and terror as what you don't see. This game is fantastic at making your brain fill in the scary bits all by yourself.
If you want a game that is subnautica like, but has no water: Play Planet Crafter. I would still say: Finish this first. This is my faverite game of all time. Can't wait for the real sequal!
I’m so happy you continued the series even just one more video. Subnautica is my favorite game and it’s amazing to see a creator I like play it🥰. I hope to see more in the future but I completely understand if you don’t.
47:39 The reason it's such a large time commitment is that you're delaying your progress by actively avoiding new areas as well as all the information the game is giving you.
The important things in the database are voiced. Everything you can read is very fun for the world building and actually understanding your surroundings but is eventually your prerogative. Like the reaper leviathans hunt via echo-location. And if you can hear it's screams it eventually makes it's way towards you in game.
There's no real concern for burnout with Subnautica or any of these games. I only have time to play for a few hours each week so it's kinda hard to burn out, lol. It's mostly just a matter of seeing if I should use that limited time on other games.
I really hope you do end up continuing the game, it gets so much better once you get the cyclops and get to exploring the deeper regions. It also helped me immensely with getting over my thalassophobia.
We are 70% water which is incompressible so we can go quite deep underwater without issue. Submarines need to contain a volume of air which means they are under extreme pressure which cannot equalize without destroying the vessel.
if you where playing below zero, yeah id understand this being the last vid, since the story is lackluster and the first definitely has a better world for exploration. but since you are playing the first game i implore you to keep going, the story progression is great and has a satisfying conclusion. also i strongly suggest taking the time to listen to all the audio logs from the PDA's that you pick up, the ones that don't have audio generally aren't worth your time, but the audio logs are good background info to listen to while you play.
47:30 59k Views and 6.9k Likes on your first Subnautica video does is NOT a small amount though, and it's going up still. This is one of the most popular RUclips playthrough games out there so even smaller channels such as yourself are going to get increased numbers for it. I do hope you continue it's super worth it ♥ As for the PDA stuff, I totally understand your standpoint on not wanting to read them, but you should at least listen to the audio logs while swimming around playing the game as the story is found in those :3 Plus it's audio haha
A few things that I have to say: scan everything as it is important to the lore and to get a feel of the game, listen to the voice logs as well, the moonpool also repairs your vehicles while they charge, it just does it slowly. most creatures cannot one-shot you, not even the giant snake mandible thing (called a Reaper Levithan) and if you just swim or fly past it, it may try to attack you but if you are in your seamoth with full durability, try to get away and repair the seamoth, the next part of the game involves going to the Aurora. Good luck.
I think the fact that he is expected to scan everything does kinda help his point about vital information hidden in the pda. I loved having a place I could go to if I needed to reference any particular information I would need during normal gameplay. If it had some fun additional information to flesh out the lore that was pretty fun too! ...But there's really only 3 types of logs you find: 1) voice acted ones that are there mainly for plot purposes that will try to lead the player along and get them to progress the story (they activate beacons that lead to life pods that are pretty much always nearby objects of interest) 2) Text base ones that refer to hostile creatures or useful materials you can interact with and gain from, this one is self explanatory (literally lol) 3) Stuff that is only there because someone on the dev team really wanted to write fish lore. While I completely understand the desire to make a realistic encyclopedia of all the creatures you can encounter in an environment...it also means that to find the information you WANT to find you have to parse through it in a way that can be overwhelming for someone who just wants to sit down and play a game about not dying at the bottom of an alien sea. I feel like telling him to scan everything is only feeding into that problem. It clutters up the pda and only makes a player who doesn't like reading in their video games less likely to read in their video game.
I absolutely understand your take on storytelling in video games, but I would argue that Subnautica's story being presented in this way is purposeful to it's design. There is still a story happening around you and unfolding in real time: that's what the infection and radio broadcasts are, and this story doesn't require you to read logs in a data bank like you said, but there is another story in the game that tells the lore of the environment and those who came before. The PDAs are a remnant of the past that you are uncovering as you play, and while important to the overall story, it presents itself in a different way than most stories can normally unfold. Similar to reading books in Skyrim or other RPGs to learn about the world, and I definitely get where you're coming from. World building in this way isn't for everyone, and if its not something you can personally enjoy then Subnautica just isn't for you. There's nothing wrong with that either; it's just a genre that's quite frankly really nerdy, and while I personally love reading stuff like this, I can absolutely get behind why someone might not.
at least play until you make the prawn suit. the PDA does not lie when it tells you the side effects, and i think you will enjoy those side effects quite a bit. if you still aren't enjoying the game after messing with the prawn suit, then i can't convince you to not drop it. DO NOT GO TO THE BACK OR OTHER SIDE OF THE SHIP OR YOU WILL NEVER PLAY SUBNAUTICA AGAIN :)
Gonna be honest, there are very good reasons (and also very bad reasons) for putting information into something like a logbook. For one, you're piecing together a mystery, and a lot of games centered on exploration or solving mysteries will utilize this as you're functionally a detective. For another, in a game like Subnautica, the game is doing you a favor of allowing you to access the information when it's convenient for you. Typically, it's something small, such as a life form scan that you can skim over right away or come back to later if you desire. For more important information, they want to make sure you don't miss it while playing and can come back to it as needed. In both cases, it's not forcing you to access the information right away or sitting through a cutscene -- both of which could be very inopportune as you may be drowning, dealing with a reaper, or trying to remember which way was out of that cave (and then drowning). Everyone would be completely pissed (rightfully) if they had the game play interrupted in those circumstances. Good games that have the story arranged this way also typically reward players for taking the time to interact with the information, and not merely towards the story or immediate objectives. To be honest, this used to be an extremely common mentality amongst gamers, one that's died off a lot over the last -- I don't know? -- decade or so. That's honestly for the best, as most games have very good reasons why they are designed the way they are, and you are arbitrarily locking yourself out of the story, and consequently a lot of amazing games, too. Bad examples on both extremes of seemingly endless text that serves no gameplay or narrative purpose exist as do cutscenes that over stay their welcome or are pointless (the worst example I can think of, and I'm not making this up, was a ~45 minute cutscene in an extremely well respected, genre defining game) also exist. But just because a game does one or the other, doesn't mean it's a bad game, and ignoring how it's trying to tell its story is just going to be shooting yourself in the foot.
It's wild how what you bump into massively impacts your playstyle progression. I did not find a base builder tool for *AGES* and had to make do with like 50 floating storage containers. When I finally, at practically *the end of the game* found the module for a battery recharger I resorted to salvaging the massive pile of litter underneath my life pod for used batteries to save copper.
Please keep playing subnautica I’m currently doing my first play through too and it’s so entertaining watching you experiencing everything for the first time like I am
Your whining about not caring about the story, and having the convenience of hearing/reading it when you are ready instead of immediately needing to put it first is annoying.
I'm pointing out that if the story is not presented to me then I won't engage with it because I am not going to go into menus to fish for a story, in part because I did not even know there was a story there to begin with. Convenience means nothing when I'm listening to audio logs that mean nothing to me.
_Random documents and audio logs!_ _We find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs!_ _We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review_ _When we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to do._ *smack
@ThroarbinGaming OK, completely understandable, the good thing about games like this is that if you don't care for the story you have the option to not engage with it and simply explore and do what is most enjoyable to you. However, if someone is indeed interested and pays attention, it really does pay off in the end.
36:55 btw there's not only 2, not 3, but 25 (10 are around aurora/the big ship, 8 are in dunes and 7 in the mountains) And if you're still going to play subnautica you have 2 choices: 1.Go to the Aurora again,scan cyclops engine fragments(upper floor) 2.Go to the back of the aurora and scan cyclops engine fragments while at risk of getting eaten by reaper (you need a cyclops to beat the game beacouse rocket needs an cyclops upgrade that cane only be made in a cyclops)
I hope you don’t force yourself to play it if you don’t want to (I saw someone else do that for the views, it was a horrible experience), but I also hope you enjoy it enough to keep playing. You mentioned that you don’t love it, which is fair. As someone who does love it, I want to say that it still scares me at times, and has many bugs and poor design choices, but at it’s basis it’s fun and almost meditative. Plus, the environments are just beautiful. (As a side note, if you do play it further, feel free to ignore the mass of people giving you advice. It’s totally okay to figure it out for yourself, and to use walkthroughs if you get stuck. There’s even a creative mode if you feel like being invulnerable, building, exploring, etc.) Best of luck, whether you play it any further or not ❤
I hope to God you continue this amazing game. This was the start of my love of the sea and animals as a whole. I'm so glad you are even making a 2nd video on this! Thank you so much! ❤
Im so excited to see you giving this game a shot again! I hope you see this game to the end! Its so fun and full of surprises and your reactions are absolutely amazing!
Tip for literally any game ever (especially survival games with story like this) please look at EVERYTHING every item every menu. Be curious!! It won't hurt reading some things or listening to some things. In some games theres lore, in others theres just useful info, in others little funny jokes! Flavor text is called flavor text for a reason! Ads flavor! A little sad if you don't play more but i feel like id be more fun for you and the viwers if you moved on 😅 (EDIT) I wrote this before you stated how you feel about the voice things and said flavor text. And uhh damn! That's kinda a huge part of most games ever! For story for deeper enjoyment at least for me anyways lol Maybe there are more games that I'm not aware of that will fit more to your style!
Oh there's lots of games that do, primarily ones that don't include story or else ones that play cinematics. It's mostly just the ready and having to stop the game to look in menus and the vast majority of games I've played don't have you doing that.
I think Subnautica is a fantastic game. But only if certain conditions are met. Firstly the player has to lose their fear of the ocean. I think everyone is scared when it comes to the deep blue, but in this case losing that fear will allow you to explore, find new exciting things and actually seeing what the game has to offer. A lot of that comes to knowledge. Knowing what things are actually dangerous, and where those dangers are. And secondly you have to engage with the information the game gives you. Besides all the PDA entries for all the things you can scan which help with world building, there is a section literally called "codes & clues" which will lead you towards what to do, without giving you a "to-do list" for the story.
The First Video didn't very well with? It got 60K Views! It's your 4th best viewed Video! Some people would do anything for just 10K Views on their Videos. 16:30 LUL the ICQ Sound 40:35 Wait, your main Channel is about Terraria. The game that you only can play if you read thing in the Wiki! How can this be the case if it's the only game you played since starting this channel?
I don't read Terraria's wiki...ever. I've just played it for 11 years so I know most of the things and am still making new discoveries regularly. And the video has considerably less views when I made this video, guess I shoulda included a screenshot of how it was at the time. It's had much more longevity than expected.
@ThroarbinGaming I don't typically read wiki either, but when the game gives pretty much no fixed cutscenes, and voice lines to listen too when a creature isn't trying to eat you, it's definitely a "play when it's safe" thing
1) you can get an actual pet, a little fish buddy, if you find the location past 250m 2) if you're stumped what to do, check the lifepod locations, devs placed them at points of interest 3) depth pressure is not simulated (you can go out in your diving suit even at 2000m depth), but the oxygen consumption increases the deeper you go. Rebreather helps with that. 4) you can build a whole-ass mobile base in your Cyclops subnarine 5) you have to go to the wreck eventually, as a bonus you can unlock a badass exosuit while there. You will need it to dive deeper and mine ore clusters. You can also fight Leviathans while in it. It has a grappling hook. GO TO THE WRECKAGE.
Ok so I watched the last 10 minutes and you did get the exosuit blueprints, good. Unfortunately, it seems you forgot to fix the radiation leak in the ship's core. I don't think it's critical, but it does give you an option to switch your diving suit to one that has more protection against... bitey things. Oh and fins that increase your swimming speed.
28:50 The people in this call are from the youtube channel Neebs Gaming, who got to cameo in the game due to the support for the game with their youtube series. Just thought you'd like to know that!
I absolutely love Subnautica, the atmosphere in the game is unrivaled. And I also spent most of the game being terrified but it was a really incredible experience, slowly mastering my fear as the unknown became known, gradually becoming more comfortable in each new area. I totally understand why you aren't interested in finishing it, I hope you appreciate how effective the game was at making you feel, even if that feeling was terror haha. Not every game is this emotionally engaging
i really enjoy watching this a lot as a new player that also hates the ocean who doesn't want spoilers for late game. its also cool seeing how other plays progress- i could not for the life of me figure out how to solve the inventory issue, so I just made like 20 floating lockers. It didn't occur to me that the connector tubes could even be built without the main room. Also I was too scared to go into the alien gun thing.
Been loving your series on playing games for the first time, you have so many genuine reactions. Subnautica holds a special place in my heart because 1. I too hate the open ocean and 2. I hate horror games. Not saying I get scared easily, horror games just aren't fun, being scared isn't fun for me, yet Subnautica has been the first game to ever make me scream out of fear. The reason I love Subnautica so much is how rich the story gets layered on top of the fact that you have to kind of overcome certain fears. I agree, I hate reading blocks of text but rest assured that none of that is required to enjoy the story, all of that is background information that I didn't even get around to reading until my second playthrough. That being said, I'm not trying to convince you to continue playing, if you're not having fun, that's fine. BUT don't you want to know where that big gun came from? Don't you want to know why the weird alien building says you're infected. Who put up those portals? Doesn't the prawn suit look like it would be so much fun to operate? Who was that talking to you in that vision?
So in case you may not have figured it out, that laser is the same that shot down your ship. Since the planet is under quarantine no one is allowed to land on it. They get detroyed. The Aurora was simply big enough to actually crash land on the planet and not just get disintegrated
As someone who also is terrified of the open ocean and giant sea monsters and had basically all the same recations as you... It's worth conpleting, the story is soooooo good and completing the game just feels so rewarding. Its the type of game I hate because I cnat help but love it no matter how much I hate it
41:52 I love Subnautica, but I agree that reading through the logs is kind of tedious. I know that they have a purpose, and I'm sure a lot of effort went into them, but reading the logs for every obscure plant can get boring.
I haven't seen other comments talk about this so; You mentioned in this video that the fear of the big fish is something you can deal with/overcome; but that deep seated paranoia about the open ocean is what *really* gets you. As a long time Subnautica veteran: same. I also tend to hug nearby surfaces to give me a sense of safety, space, & direction. Getting that big Cyclops submarine makes all the difference in the world for me in that big empty open water. And ironically, the late game being so deep means you have environment below & around you, so it's less "open water terror" If you're willing to keep going long enough to get the Big Ship then things might just get a lot easier for you You seem uncertain how much enjoyment vs terror you're having; & worried about time commitment, but I do hope you're able & willing to keep going, & that it'll get a bit less scary as you get better equipment & more familiar with things!
As great as this game is, and as much as your commentary is funny and interesting, I don't really see how you can talk in this way about your experience with a game if you didn't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, the game is terrifying, but that's why is captivating and why I find your playthrough thus far so entertaining. I get not wanting to make videos of games people don't want to see, and I also get being busy to the point where you can't play games in your free time, but if you aren't gonna continue the game when it does poorly, why'd you make a second part in the first place? People really do want to see this game from you, the amount of people in the comments saying to continue should be evidence of that, but if you're gonna end it off after it doesn’t do well enough, then I kinda wonder how you actually have fun playing games for youtube? Ig you're better at this than me, but it kinda seems like you're letting the numbers guide your actions rather than your own enjoyment and inspiration for your channel, and that kinda sucks. :(
I made a second one because the first did perform alright at the end of the day, at least well enough to do a second part. But really, this channel is the only way I can justify playing this games I never got to check out. I don't know if I'll like them or not when I play them. The issue with Subnautica is that it's so long that I can't justify putting in all the time if the video is going to perform poorly because there are loads of others games I can play. If I don't enjoy a game outright then I will refuse to continue, the only reason I say "maybe I continue" is because I enjoy it enough to do so but if there is no apparent interest in that then I'd rather try another game I might enjoy more, takes less time, or performs better on the platform.
43:52 This is the only real flaw in the game. Every video of a first time player comes to this point: That they find the exit before the entrance to the aurora. 44:26 That is the correct code...but not for that door
Subnautica is kinda underrated, so the lower views check out, unfortunately. Still, it is one of the better games out there, so I hope you'll finish it!
just so you know, you went in the opposite direction of the island, since you were observing your base from the island, and your base was about SE you would have to travel NW from your base.
I wouldn't say so. You can very much stumble your way to the end simply by exploring and searching for upgrades. It is not nessesary to play space detective, although it is one of the best things about this game for me
Btw I might be wrong, but humans can go really deep. We are mostly water which is pretty incompressible, so the depth doesn't do much to us. The seamoth on the other hand is a big pocket of air so that compresses and gets crushed by the pressure (I might be wrong on this, that's just my experience and knowledge)
32:10 You are mostly water just like your surroundings. The only issue are the gasses you breath, really, with nitrogen buildup being the first hurdle. Satuaration divers work in a depth of 3000 Feet (1000 meters) on underwater maintenance and construction.
I think you are gonna struggle to know the story and where to go without looking at the PDAs/ Data Downloads etc... but I get that it's not everyone's cup of tea. I just hope you enjoy the game, if you aren't then don't force yourself to play it. There's a considerable time sink in this game with resource collection/management that can be... painful... But... and it's a big butt, if you put the time in there is a big payoff in the end. I was genuinely sad when it was over. But once again, don't feel like you have to play for folks if you hate it. Xxx
23:05 oh wow, if you hadn't done the thing with the green thing that probably wouldn't have happened lol, btw, I'm with you with the whole deep sea freaky place thing, I call it The Empty, freaks me out, which is weird cuz I love sailing. P.S. Keep it going :) I was too scared to play this game lol
I love your video ,please play more subnautica , your sense of humor and reactions spark joy and I can't wait for you to uncover the mysteries of the ocean planet! It has some really cool biomes and more creatures to explore, not to mention the alien technology♡☆ and the story and music is bomb! So I hope you'll continue playing!
The big fish a the huge ship is called the reaper and the scariest part in my opinion about the reaper is when you get grabbed by the reaper And you see its face as he starts chomping at you
I hope you do keep playing, because there is a nice story in there that naturally appears as you explore further.
The story is actually really cool if u look into it, even if it is a bit hidden
@@icexinfinity0 Base level subnautica lore: alien civilization with cool tech and a virus
Deep level subnautica lore: Obraxis Prime
@@Riconort We don’t talk about Obraxis Prime 😳
he explained in the video he doesnt read/listen too the pda’s so he wont get any of the story either
Yes i sincerely hope he continues playing this game, it’s one of my favourites of all time
It's so sad hearing that u will only continue gaming this state of the art videogame if "the video does well in yt".
I hope you continue the game, its absolutely mesmerizing. And will help you a lot with the fear to the ocean. It happened to me as well, TWICE: once with subnautica and once more with phasmophobia.
Somehow how I doubt the game will help me with fear of the ocean, lol. And in the end, this channel is pretty much just a hobby and I have so many things on my plate that I can't really justify continuing to put time into a game without at least some sort of financial incentive. Otherwise I have plenty of other things that would need to take priority.
@@ThroarbinGaming well if you are looking for a financial incentive, its clearly not just a hobby for you. Not that thats a problem or anything, but hobbies do not really give money, they cost money.
@@madsotzenandreasen7145bold move to insist on your own peculiar definition of hobby for a stranger. Though with all the entitlement in these comments I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
@@DanKaschelHobbies can make money, it's just a matter of is someone choosing to do something specifically for profit, if profits is the goal then that is not a hobby that is a job.
Throarbins comment makes it pretty clear that his priorities are profit driven, that is not a hobby. And that's fine, he doesn't have to treat youtube as a hobby.
You can repair the seamoth while it's in the moonpool by repairing the open panel on the side of the seamoth
I played subnautica and below zero and didn‘t know that
42:00 While I agree somewhat with your point about games not hiding vital information in menus, I'd challenge you on the degree of that, would you prefer that every time you meet a new enemy in a game, or a new resource, that the game suddenly lists all the uses, or abilities and stats for that enemy, or lists off all it's weaknesses or special drops.
It's fine to say people learn as they play, but the fact remains people don't try to think most of the time when it comes to games, if you encounter a problem it is usually 'my first attempt failed, I'm not at the stage to do this yet', sometimes taking a few failed attempts before someone stops being stubborn.
They will skip over dialogue, skip through help menus or try to skip past spoken lines, they will try to 'figure it out themselves' without help and a whole range of things, and stacking more and more information on them each time they do something, gets more tedious than reading some of the related information.
And I much prefer games giving access to the information and lore within the game, than having to tab out to look up most of the information, theres a reason games like stardew valley have in game wiki mods and other things. Why Monster Hunter as a game series gives you weaknesses and drops for monsters you encounter. It reduces a massive amount of burden on the player to memorise everything the first time around. Although subnautica could do to improve by listing that important information first, rather than at the bottom of each log, it does drive people to reading it more often than not.
Since you've actively gotten sulfur in this game it would be easy to make that an example, what stops players from completely missing a game mechanic in getting sulfur, because it is tied to a 'negative event' of being attacked. Is that the sort of thing a player needs to be told in the middle of the panic facing the first instance of sulfur?
"Oh by the way while you are being attacked, go harvest near it." Players wouldn't have the headspace to remember and act on that. Putting it in a log or giving people an incentive to get closer to that, in itself lets the player explore more.
As a side note, I assume it is poor wording that 'you should never store important information in menus' could be misunderstood as 'never log story-related information' but I doubt you are making that specific point when you've used the audio log to re-read some of the radio messages for information.
As a minor edit, the prompt to swap out batteries does show up, but only when the tool runs out of power, this would theoretically reduce the amount of words on screen at any one point in time.
I also really like listening to the story logs while I'm in the safety of my base ^^
I'm a little confused about your point as I don't actually disagree with it entirely. I'm not asking games to list or announce all of the information about everything out in the open. For things like creatures you can put the info in any log you like so long as simply encountering and messing around with them can teach you the same information. I'm referring to information that's vital for progression that is stored away in a log without the player's knowledge. Like I find a pda with very important info but I'm just told I got a pda and then lets say I'd gotten pda's before and read them only to find no useful information, why would I bother checking the future ones that might actually have it?
@@ThroarbinGaming yeah I do agree with that part as there are some PDAs in the game which will straight up have codes to side doors but then others are just world building. The Devs didn't completely streamline information even if they tried to summarise some parts of the game. While it can be seen as rewarding additional engagement it can be a burden for players at the same time.
As a minor spoiler for stalkers assuming you haven't read the log yet, the Devs explain a specific resource and how to get it including a summary at the end of the log but then do a bad job explaining how you can hold a fish in your hand to feed them in a similar clear way. It's the sort of thing where you have to decide at what point is it not vital information if it is still solving a problem for the player with the AIs behaviour.
@ThroarbinGaming I understand where your coming from on this, however when I did my first playthrough of subnautica I did so without reading any PDA, except for one or two related to the Aurora, the game is able to be completed almost purely by exploration, unfortunately however these survival type games like subnautica, minecraft, and terraria are horrible at teaching new players, these game expect you going into them with some level of knowledge of video games, which probably explains why you have a lot of issues with this game in particular as aposed to games like portal, lethal company, and titanfall 2 these games are either straight forward or tell you anything and everything you need to know to complete them. Having someone who doesn't have experience with playing survival games play subnatica for one of their first games is like having an Amish person build a pc, they may know what some parts of a computer are like a keyboard, monitor, or a mouse, but they have zero clue what a cpu is or that it gets installed on a motherboard. The point I'm trying to make here is that, I think subnautica just might not be the right game for you at this moment in time, its also possible survival might just not be your genre of choice, these games are all about exploration, learning how the world works, and slowly grinding your way to be able to get through more difficult areas, for example, in minecraft, you start by punching a tree, you then make tools (note, minecraft didn't always have a crafting recipe book in the inventory) then you go caving to get stone, iron, then eventually diamonds, you then go to the nether (another note, the game NEVER tells you how to make a nether portal, ruined portals give you a hint but it never told outright) in the nether you get ancient debris and an upgrade template to make netherite tools, then you find a nether fortress, get blaze rods, got back to the overworld, etc notice how almost all of these things are things you would eventually do if you were playing minecraft with no knowledge? Subnautica is playable in the same way you just have to explore and collect (collecting includes scaning EVERYTHING you come across) eventually you will naturally progress and with time comes exposure, it's proven that exposure therapy helps to alleviate phobias, this is true with scary things in video games. The Five Nights At Freddy's series got stale because it was the same thing over and over again, and the same thing will happen with anything you might find scary in subnautica, you just need time in the game. That all being said it's your decision to keep playing or not, I personally think the game is worth it as the story is truely amazing and there are some really breathtaking biomes in the game, but if you don't think its worth it then there's no reason not to drop it, at the end of the day, gaming is about having fun so if something isn't fun to you then don't play it.
What about the line where the PDA vocally tells you exactly what parts of the PDA to read? @@ThroarbinGaming
Subnautica becomes hugely more fun when you get the Cyclops, it's just the best!
"Wow i have a powerful sub now!"
Reaper leviathan: 👁 👁
Welcome aboard, Captain. All systems online.
Nothing in any game I've ever played has matched the feeling of going about the ocean in the Cyclops.
Honestly, I like a prawn suit with good upgrades more. (Mostly the drill arm and the jump upgrade)
How could people not think this is interesting? The way you describe your journey through the game, is incredible. Also I think you’re the first person to react as strongly to all the creatures, most others get scared first and then just stressed by them. I hope you will continue playing, and at least I will come back to watch the next episode, whenever it comes out
I hope you keep playing because seeing a new player with the fear of the ocean play subnautica is awesome and funny.
There is a difference between "horror" and "terror" and Subnautica has itself firmly nailed down in the "terror" category. The thing that separates terror from horror is that terror occurs almost entirely in your own head while horror happens in front of you (think zombies n whatnot). Subnautica uses vastness, limited visibility, and general alien vibes to make you psych yourself out. The cure for terror, interestingly enough, is simple: exposure. The longer you spend time with something terrifying, the more you understand about it. The more you understand it, the easier it becomes to predict. The easier it becomes to predict, the less terrifying it becomes. Spend more time in Subnautica's ocean, explore carefully, and it will bloom before you like a fishy flower.
Think of Stalkers as an example. The first time you encountered them, you swam back to the life pod and cowered on top of it. This time around, you stabbed one you had trapped with a knife. They're not as scary anymore, are they? That's because you understand them a little bit better. Believe it or not, but that exact same psychology applies to Reapers and every other big fish in the game.
You got this, man.
Also go back to the Aurora's reactor and fix the damn thing; all you need is a welder. >:(
Fix the what now?
@@ThroarbinGaming The Aurora's reactor! Where you found the cyclops upgrade! It's leaking radiation into the environment and needs some holes sealed with a welder! :O
@@UltraXan He doesn't listen to any of the logs lol I don't think he knows he has to
@@mudnarchist Aaaahhh, don't shit on the guy. It might seem obvious to us, those who already have a conceptual model of how video games typically work in our heads, but like he says: He's not really a gamer and he's playing catch up on stuff he missed out on. It might take him some time, but he'll get there.
Terror is anticipatory, horror is reactionary.
Responding to 32:00
Humans kinda don't have a depth limit when using diving equipment. Submarines keep the air at atmospheric pressure, so they deal with absolutely enormous forces pressing on them. On a human body, the only particularly compressible region of our body is our lungs and some area in our ears. Diving suits pressurize the air you're breathing to match the pressure in the area. Yawning or swallowing opens the tubes that equalize the pressure in your ear to the air pressure in your body too. This means you don't experience a pressure differential, and generally don't have much of a problem purely due to depths. Where we get a problem is from depth/pressure changing too quickly, which Subnautica doesn't model.
Well said. Breathing a gas under a higher pressure means more of it is absorbed into our bodies. When ascending this needs to get out again. Doing that too fast is like opening a coke bottles quickly: bubbles that are dangerous. The deeper you go (and the more time you spend at depth) the longer you need to spend going back up. At some point you need too much equipment (for example 6 or more tanks of breathing gasses and hours of time spent waiting) just to spend 15 minutes at depth making it not worth it. Subnautica skips this decompression step completely.
There's a mod that adds decompression and ascent speed limits to the game, though it's more forgiving than in reality. It's a fun mod though. Imagine being chased by a leviathan and having to stay in the water.
@@Yggdrasil42 that sounds rough. My cousin got decompression sickness almost 10 years ago and has permanent numb spots on his fingers and toes as a result. He does free-diving now as a result to reduce/eliminate the risk of decompression sickness.
Having that in Subnautica sounds pretty frightful, lol
There's a setting in the developer console that adds decompression issues! It's called nitrogen mode, just have to type nitrogen into the dev console
Diver here. How does the pressure on the body changes depending on the depths? Every 10meter under water the pressure on the body increases by one "athmosphere". The "atmopshere" being the pressure the air has on a body when on sea level, also called Atmospheric pressure. So 10 meter under water means the pressure of 2 atmosphere and so on. The record of deep diving was set in 2006 with a depth of 610meters (2000 ft.) with the appropied deep diving gear. In terms of inventions the C-Researcher ( a oneman piloted Submarine, which looks similar to the seamoth or vise versa) has reached depths of 3000 meters ( 9843 ft.)
So 200meter isn´t all that much xD
Well said, but for a normal scuba diver 200m (660ft) is basically unreachable. Normal divers dive to 40m max and it takes quite a bit of training to go to 45/50m since decompression is commonly required. Below that one usually dives Trimix (a gas mix with added helium). Diving below 75m already takes a ton of training and equipment (advanced trimix with hypoxic gas mixes).
I'm a cave diver with most of that training and yet I have just a few friends who have ever dived below 100m.
Yes but in the late game you have to be in insane depths, at most 1700 meters, but you can still explain that as your magic futuristic suit creating counter-pressure or something
@@ΒασίληςΒλάχος-τ3κ I have no idea if it's true, but I read that the theoretical limit for a human is 1000 meters due to the gas mixtures required to go lower being toxic. So assuming that's true, Subnautica is pretty reasonable given its advanced technology
You also have to consider that those depths listed in OPs comments are based on Earth. If the gravity on 4546B is less, then pressure would be less underwater.
I mean no disrespect but personally, your mentality of "This might be the last stream," "I probably won't continue the game so why bother looking at the story" etc. really pulled the enjoyment out of it for me even though I had really liked the first video. Your channel is based on people that play X game coming to watch you react to their favorite moments from X game, but this kind of attitude just feels insulting to those who values said X game. Just some feedback to think about for your future series.
As for Subnautica, this should probably be your last video still, as it clearly didn't interest you all that much. Nothing wrong with dropping games you didn't vibe with and saying so. It's better than forcing yourself to play for potential content.
Agreed
100% agreed, though he actually said the video didn’t perform well enough as the reason for not continuing to play. That mentality really rubs me wrong. It makes me wonder, what’s the point of starting to watch one of your series if you won’t finish it based on metrics?
@@imahaloguyexactly, it makes me want to wait till I can see if he finished the series before I watch any of his videos. Which in turn will hurt the metrics since I'm not watching when it comes out.
24 public facing videos, and subnautica being the 5th highest views on that list isn't good enough apparently
Yeah... games like Subnautica are basically built on discovery, and much of that takes place as reading because such is what can help to create that immersive vibe of slowly piecing together what's happening, and the like. Plus, survival games in general, among many other genres, do kinda demand a bit of willingness to check some directions/keybinds/et cetera. If you're going into such with a prejudice against the very notion of ever having to read, and judging it to always be some kind of knock against the game if it tries to require doing so, then it's just not a good match.
As a comparison, it'd be kinda like playing Portal with no subtitles and the sound off, because of deciding in advance, without giving it a chance, that "games shouldn't have dialogue." Or mashing through something like undertale without reading, for a more direct comparison. Like, sure, you can absolutely do both, but, well... if your goal is to see what people like about a game? That can't happen if you're policing what parts of the game you're willing to engage with.
TO BE CLEAR! It's totally valid to like what you like, and there's no *wrong* way to have fun. But, well, as far as content is concerned, people tend to watch blind gameplay because they're excited about the shared experience of someone else's discovery and such. If you're pre-judging and avoiding some part of the experience, based on your own assumptions about how it should be? People will have a lot less fun with that. No one enjoys feeling like something they think is cool is being dismissed as bad before giving it a chance, after all.
I will note, as well, that people will basically always hate when others seem to be speaking negatively of the design for a game they like, unless it's either an experience they can relate to... or something you can basically support with evidence. It's totally fine to share your confusion or frustration or whatever else, as that's part of what people *want* to see! But keep in mind that you don't want to be too quick to blame the game, itself-- or rather, you don't want to *sound* like you are. If the vibe you're giving is "wow, I think this is dumb and bad," to every mechanic that gives you trouble or trips you up, then people start to get *stressed* about the discovery, and will get *much* more aggressive about trying to backseat, too, which just spoils the fun for both sides.
Either way! It's always best to play whatever *you* find fun. It's always neat to see someone stepping out of their comfort zone, of course, but, well, "if it isn't fun, what's the point?" So, still looking forwards to whatever might be next, after how much fun Portal and such were to see a fresh take on. The most consistent way to "make numbers go up" is basically always reliant on how much fun YOU can have with things, at the end of the day-- entertainment is contagious, after all!
28:57 Lol, I completely forgot the "Neebs Gaming" cameo in this game. The man guy is Appsro and the guy in the background is Neebs.
Hahaha, I always loved that part. I have been playing & watching Subnautica for years and I had never visited their channel and I finally did a few weeks ago. They really have some funny stuff. I am glad they gave them, Markiplier and Jacksepticeye and others some in-game recognition.
The fact that he refuses to listen to the PDA voice logs kills me. Like bruh just put it on while you swim, there's critical information there.
Well that's part of the point, I didn't even know they were important, especially after I listened to a few and found not valuable information contained in them.
@@ThroarbinGaming I thought your point was that you didn't want to read walls of text. Listening to audio logs isn't really different than listening to the radio(minus some coordinates) and it only requires like an additional click or two to play them. The only other option would be for the devs to force play them the second you found them, which might be annoying for other reasons. Sounds more like a lack of investment in the story than an inherent problem with accessibility of information. It's not like the game secretly hid all those PDA logs from you.
If you dont like the game, dont play it, thats no problem. You shouldnt force yourself to play something. But I think deciding what to play based on how the video performs isnt a good idea. Gaming is a hobby, its meant to immerse yourself in a world that you enjoy. If you fundamentally only play a game because a specific video performed really well, or stop playing a game because a video perfomed bad, goes against the core of gaming itself. If you dont enjoy doing it, why do it. If you enjoy doing it, why stop?
Well I don't actually know if I'm enjoying it is the thing and I wouldn't be opposed to continuing. The issue comes from Subnautica being a long game and me having very little time in my day. I can only justify this hobby by the videos doing well enough to help pay the bills and so playing a long game to make videos that don't perform well makes no sense.
@@ThroarbinGaming Thanks for your reply. I can completely understand that, but Subnautica with about 30 hours of game time is not really a long game compared to other open world games. If you feel like you can spend your time in a different game and have more fun, I would say do that. You will never play even the best 0.1% of all games anyways, so dont spend your time playing a game that you dont enjoy.
IF you enjoy it I cant tell you obviously. But for me I too wasnt sure if I liked it or not. Just after finishing it I realized that I was sad that there it was over so quick, and I really took my time and explored every inch of the map. I would describe Subnautica more as an experience than a game tbh.
you really are having the perfect experience of subnautica. I hope these videos do well because I would really love to see more!
about the PDAs, the only ones you really need to pay attention to are the voice logs. they're fully voice acted so you can just hit play and keep playing :)
Hey if you had repaired the reactor on the Aurora it would stop the radiation leak and you can take off the radiation suit for something with better protection.
You Can actually repair the seamoth while its docked in the moonpool, you just need to be really close to it and look down on it
You have to go inside the aurora at one point. Good luck!
Subnautica genuinely helped with my fear of the ocean, though it took a while. Love the story, and everything else tbh. Really hope you keep going and see what it offers, cuz we’re just getting started!
Man, i absolutely hype subnautica to anyone i can - i encourage them to stick with it, learn the story when it shows up, and be blown away by the end.
The terror just makes it really, really feel like you accomplished something.
And dude, the crafting is CLEAN. you use your old gear to make the new. No trash needed.
You're also being impatient and overly critical. I've actuality found subnautica to have one of the nicer ways to handle keybinds - promps when needed
I didnt read the logs until i felt like it eather. The voice logs however, are the story beats. It's designed thst way so when you're screaming away from a reaper you don't lose info.
I've seen a review of this game's scary side that expressed horror as what you see, and terror as what you don't see. This game is fantastic at making your brain fill in the scary bits all by yourself.
That large wreck before the eels. Where there’s half a ship, there’s probably a second half
If you want a game that is subnautica like, but has no water: Play Planet Crafter.
I would still say: Finish this first. This is my faverite game of all time. Can't wait for the real sequal!
I’m so happy you continued the series even just one more video. Subnautica is my favorite game and it’s amazing to see a creator I like play it🥰. I hope to see more in the future but I completely understand if you don’t.
11:00 Thoarbin discovers why subnautica is scary
My beacon for the island that is the rescue site is labeled "Alas poor Sunbeam!"
14:55 Interesting that you made the deeply disturbing secret room from one of the Portal games to wait in.
literally never been this early.
subnautica has been my favourite game for so long because the feeling of exploration is razy fun
47:39 The reason it's such a large time commitment is that you're delaying your progress by actively avoiding new areas as well as all the information the game is giving you.
The important things in the database are voiced. Everything you can read is very fun for the world building and actually understanding your surroundings but is eventually your prerogative. Like the reaper leviathans hunt via echo-location. And if you can hear it's screams it eventually makes it's way towards you in game.
Lots of the menus have voice lines tied to them you can pretty much skip the ones that don’t
You’re doing great. Submautica reaches a fear factor peak about where you are now.
Oof, you're gunna chase most people away with that intro.
you shouldnt do something you dislike just becouse some fans want you to, that is the fastest way to reach burnout
There's no real concern for burnout with Subnautica or any of these games. I only have time to play for a few hours each week so it's kinda hard to burn out, lol. It's mostly just a matter of seeing if I should use that limited time on other games.
Understandable with the thalassophobia honestly, I absolutely love this game and the deep water still wigs me out in areas.
I really hope you do end up continuing the game, it gets so much better once you get the cyclops and get to exploring the deeper regions. It also helped me immensely with getting over my thalassophobia.
You must play until the end. I don't care if the video doesn't do well, you will love it.
We are 70% water which is incompressible so we can go quite deep underwater without issue. Submarines need to contain a volume of air which means they are under extreme pressure which cannot equalize without destroying the vessel.
if you where playing below zero, yeah id understand this being the last vid, since the story is lackluster and the first definitely has a better world for exploration.
but since you are playing the first game i implore you to keep going, the story progression is great and has a satisfying conclusion.
also i strongly suggest taking the time to listen to all the audio logs from the PDA's that you pick up, the ones that don't have audio generally aren't worth your time, but the audio logs are good background info to listen to while you play.
47:30 59k Views and 6.9k Likes on your first Subnautica video does is NOT a small amount though, and it's going up still.
This is one of the most popular RUclips playthrough games out there so even smaller channels such as yourself are going to get increased numbers for it. I do hope you continue it's super worth it ♥
As for the PDA stuff, I totally understand your standpoint on not wanting to read them, but you should at least listen to the audio logs while swimming around playing the game as the story is found in those :3 Plus it's audio haha
That's what bothers me. Like I get not wanting to read all that. But a lot of them are audio logs. It isn't hard to spend 3 seconds to press play.
A few things that I have to say: scan everything as it is important to the lore and to get a feel of the game, listen to the voice logs as well, the moonpool also repairs your vehicles while they charge, it just does it slowly. most creatures cannot one-shot you, not even the giant snake mandible thing (called a Reaper Levithan) and if you just swim or fly past it, it may try to attack you but if you are in your seamoth with full durability, try to get away and repair the seamoth, the next part of the game involves going to the Aurora. Good luck.
I think the fact that he is expected to scan everything does kinda help his point about vital information hidden in the pda. I loved having a place I could go to if I needed to reference any particular information I would need during normal gameplay. If it had some fun additional information to flesh out the lore that was pretty fun too! ...But there's really only 3 types of logs you find:
1) voice acted ones that are there mainly for plot purposes that will try to lead the player along and get them to progress the story (they activate beacons that lead to life pods that are pretty much always nearby objects of interest)
2) Text base ones that refer to hostile creatures or useful materials you can interact with and gain from, this one is self explanatory (literally lol)
3) Stuff that is only there because someone on the dev team really wanted to write fish lore. While I completely understand the desire to make a realistic encyclopedia of all the creatures you can encounter in an environment...it also means that to find the information you WANT to find you have to parse through it in a way that can be overwhelming for someone who just wants to sit down and play a game about not dying at the bottom of an alien sea.
I feel like telling him to scan everything is only feeding into that problem. It clutters up the pda and only makes a player who doesn't like reading in their video games less likely to read in their video game.
Please please please finish this game!!! It’s so satisfying! I love these videos!
I absolutely understand your take on storytelling in video games, but I would argue that Subnautica's story being presented in this way is purposeful to it's design. There is still a story happening around you and unfolding in real time: that's what the infection and radio broadcasts are, and this story doesn't require you to read logs in a data bank like you said, but there is another story in the game that tells the lore of the environment and those who came before.
The PDAs are a remnant of the past that you are uncovering as you play, and while important to the overall story, it presents itself in a different way than most stories can normally unfold. Similar to reading books in Skyrim or other RPGs to learn about the world, and I definitely get where you're coming from. World building in this way isn't for everyone, and if its not something you can personally enjoy then Subnautica just isn't for you. There's nothing wrong with that either; it's just a genre that's quite frankly really nerdy, and while I personally love reading stuff like this, I can absolutely get behind why someone might not.
It’s good to make sure you scan and read the pda things for everything so you can learn a bit of the story and unlock new tech
I sincerely hope you keep playing, if you’ve felt even a modicum of fun this far you’ll fall in love with what’s waiting deeper
at least play until you make the prawn suit. the PDA does not lie when it tells you the side effects, and i think you will enjoy those side effects quite a bit. if you still aren't enjoying the game after messing with the prawn suit, then i can't convince you to not drop it.
DO NOT GO TO THE BACK OR OTHER SIDE OF THE SHIP OR YOU WILL NEVER PLAY SUBNAUTICA AGAIN :)
Please keep playing this game 🙏
To take your mind off of this spooky game, how about a game called alien isolation
Whenever you see a new thing, go and look at it and if a scanner icon appears in the bottom right corner then you can scan it.
Gonna be honest, there are very good reasons (and also very bad reasons) for putting information into something like a logbook. For one, you're piecing together a mystery, and a lot of games centered on exploration or solving mysteries will utilize this as you're functionally a detective. For another, in a game like Subnautica, the game is doing you a favor of allowing you to access the information when it's convenient for you. Typically, it's something small, such as a life form scan that you can skim over right away or come back to later if you desire. For more important information, they want to make sure you don't miss it while playing and can come back to it as needed. In both cases, it's not forcing you to access the information right away or sitting through a cutscene -- both of which could be very inopportune as you may be drowning, dealing with a reaper, or trying to remember which way was out of that cave (and then drowning). Everyone would be completely pissed (rightfully) if they had the game play interrupted in those circumstances. Good games that have the story arranged this way also typically reward players for taking the time to interact with the information, and not merely towards the story or immediate objectives.
To be honest, this used to be an extremely common mentality amongst gamers, one that's died off a lot over the last -- I don't know? -- decade or so. That's honestly for the best, as most games have very good reasons why they are designed the way they are, and you are arbitrarily locking yourself out of the story, and consequently a lot of amazing games, too. Bad examples on both extremes of seemingly endless text that serves no gameplay or narrative purpose exist as do cutscenes that over stay their welcome or are pointless (the worst example I can think of, and I'm not making this up, was a ~45 minute cutscene in an extremely well respected, genre defining game) also exist. But just because a game does one or the other, doesn't mean it's a bad game, and ignoring how it's trying to tell its story is just going to be shooting yourself in the foot.
I'M COMMENTING IN HOPES THAT THIS DOES REALLY WELL AND IF IT STILL DOESN'T PLEASE CONTINUE THE SERIES JUST FOR ME
It's wild how what you bump into massively impacts your playstyle progression. I did not find a base builder tool for *AGES* and had to make do with like 50 floating storage containers. When I finally, at practically *the end of the game* found the module for a battery recharger I resorted to salvaging the massive pile of litter underneath my life pod for used batteries to save copper.
Please keep playing subnautica I’m currently doing my first play through too and it’s so entertaining watching you experiencing everything for the first time like I am
Please keep playing, this is probably one of the best series I’ve seen for subnautica, even better than some of the most popular RUclipsrs
Your whining about not caring about the story, and having the convenience of hearing/reading it when you are ready instead of immediately needing to put it first is annoying.
I'm pointing out that if the story is not presented to me then I won't engage with it because I am not going to go into menus to fish for a story, in part because I did not even know there was a story there to begin with. Convenience means nothing when I'm listening to audio logs that mean nothing to me.
_Random documents and audio logs!_
_We find them stuck to notice boards, we find them under dogs!_
_We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review_
_When we're bored of all the gameplay but we've nothing else to do._ *smack
@ThroarbinGaming OK, completely understandable, the good thing about games like this is that if you don't care for the story you have the option to not engage with it and simply explore and do what is most enjoyable to you. However, if someone is indeed interested and pays attention, it really does pay off in the end.
I hope this video does ridiculously well so that you get to continue to play it :) I freaking love this game!
36:55 btw there's not only 2, not 3, but 25 (10 are around aurora/the big ship, 8 are in dunes and 7 in the mountains)
And if you're still going to play subnautica you have 2 choices:
1.Go to the Aurora again,scan cyclops engine fragments(upper floor)
2.Go to the back of the aurora and scan cyclops engine fragments while at risk of getting eaten by reaper
(you need a cyclops to beat the game beacouse rocket needs an cyclops upgrade that cane only be made in a cyclops)
I hope you don’t force yourself to play it if you don’t want to (I saw someone else do that for the views, it was a horrible experience), but I also hope you enjoy it enough to keep playing. You mentioned that you don’t love it, which is fair. As someone who does love it, I want to say that it still scares me at times, and has many bugs and poor design choices, but at it’s basis it’s fun and almost meditative. Plus, the environments are just beautiful. (As a side note, if you do play it further, feel free to ignore the mass of people giving you advice. It’s totally okay to figure it out for yourself, and to use walkthroughs if you get stuck. There’s even a creative mode if you feel like being invulnerable, building, exploring, etc.) Best of luck, whether you play it any further or not ❤
I hope to God you continue this amazing game. This was the start of my love of the sea and animals as a whole. I'm so glad you are even making a 2nd video on this! Thank you so much! ❤
Subnautica was one of the best games i have ever played! I guess i'm gonna stick around and relive it trough you.
Im so excited to see you giving this game a shot again! I hope you see this game to the end! Its so fun and full of surprises and your reactions are absolutely amazing!
Tip for literally any game ever (especially survival games with story like this) please look at EVERYTHING every item every menu. Be curious!! It won't hurt reading some things or listening to some things. In some games theres lore, in others theres just useful info, in others little funny jokes! Flavor text is called flavor text for a reason! Ads flavor! A little sad if you don't play more but i feel like id be more fun for you and the viwers if you moved on 😅
(EDIT) I wrote this before you stated how you feel about the voice things and said flavor text. And uhh damn! That's kinda a huge part of most games ever! For story for deeper enjoyment at least for me anyways lol
Maybe there are more games that I'm not aware of that will fit more to your style!
Seamoth is best baby tho haha
Oh there's lots of games that do, primarily ones that don't include story or else ones that play cinematics. It's mostly just the ready and having to stop the game to look in menus and the vast majority of games I've played don't have you doing that.
I think Subnautica is a fantastic game. But only if certain conditions are met. Firstly the player has to lose their fear of the ocean. I think everyone is scared when it comes to the deep blue, but in this case losing that fear will allow you to explore, find new exciting things and actually seeing what the game has to offer. A lot of that comes to knowledge. Knowing what things are actually dangerous, and where those dangers are.
And secondly you have to engage with the information the game gives you. Besides all the PDA entries for all the things you can scan which help with world building, there is a section literally called "codes & clues" which will lead you towards what to do, without giving you a "to-do list" for the story.
Yeah, the codes and clues section is probably the only part of the pda that I've found myself glancing at from time to time.
The First Video didn't very well with? It got 60K Views! It's your 4th best viewed Video! Some people would do anything for just 10K Views on their Videos.
16:30 LUL the ICQ Sound
40:35 Wait, your main Channel is about Terraria. The game that you only can play if you read thing in the Wiki! How can this be the case if it's the only game you played since starting this channel?
No kidding, sounds like he's just making excuses 🙄
I don't read Terraria's wiki...ever. I've just played it for 11 years so I know most of the things and am still making new discoveries regularly. And the video has considerably less views when I made this video, guess I shoulda included a screenshot of how it was at the time. It's had much more longevity than expected.
I don't read Terraria's wiki, only time I did was maybe a decade ago.
@ThroarbinGaming I don't typically read wiki either, but when the game gives pretty much no fixed cutscenes, and voice lines to listen too when a creature isn't trying to eat you, it's definitely a "play when it's safe" thing
Please continue, its really fun to watch you play this game.
You are so underrated what.
1) you can get an actual pet, a little fish buddy, if you find the location past 250m
2) if you're stumped what to do, check the lifepod locations, devs placed them at points of interest
3) depth pressure is not simulated (you can go out in your diving suit even at 2000m depth), but the oxygen consumption increases the deeper you go. Rebreather helps with that.
4) you can build a whole-ass mobile base in your Cyclops subnarine
5) you have to go to the wreck eventually, as a bonus you can unlock a badass exosuit while there. You will need it to dive deeper and mine ore clusters. You can also fight Leviathans while in it. It has a grappling hook. GO TO THE WRECKAGE.
Ok so I watched the last 10 minutes and you did get the exosuit blueprints, good. Unfortunately, it seems you forgot to fix the radiation leak in the ship's core. I don't think it's critical, but it does give you an option to switch your diving suit to one that has more protection against... bitey things. Oh and fins that increase your swimming speed.
28:50 The people in this call are from the youtube channel Neebs Gaming, who got to cameo in the game due to the support for the game with their youtube series. Just thought you'd like to know that!
A game you should put on your list is Castle Crashers.
I absolutely love Subnautica, the atmosphere in the game is unrivaled. And I also spent most of the game being terrified but it was a really incredible experience, slowly mastering my fear as the unknown became known, gradually becoming more comfortable in each new area. I totally understand why you aren't interested in finishing it, I hope you appreciate how effective the game was at making you feel, even if that feeling was terror haha. Not every game is this emotionally engaging
1:32
No Throarbin, they're not coming to save you...
i really enjoy watching this a lot as a new player that also hates the ocean who doesn't want spoilers for late game.
its also cool seeing how other plays progress- i could not for the life of me figure out how to solve the inventory issue, so I just made like 20 floating lockers. It didn't occur to me that the connector tubes could even be built without the main room. Also I was too scared to go into the alien gun thing.
*looks at prawn suit*
"oh i want one of these"
*doesn't scan it*
???
( know you scan it later, but like cmon)
I still cannot remember to use the thing, lol
Been loving your series on playing games for the first time, you have so many genuine reactions. Subnautica holds a special place in my heart because 1. I too hate the open ocean and 2. I hate horror games. Not saying I get scared easily, horror games just aren't fun, being scared isn't fun for me, yet Subnautica has been the first game to ever make me scream out of fear. The reason I love Subnautica so much is how rich the story gets layered on top of the fact that you have to kind of overcome certain fears. I agree, I hate reading blocks of text but rest assured that none of that is required to enjoy the story, all of that is background information that I didn't even get around to reading until my second playthrough. That being said, I'm not trying to convince you to continue playing, if you're not having fun, that's fine.
BUT don't you want to know where that big gun came from? Don't you want to know why the weird alien building says you're infected. Who put up those portals? Doesn't the prawn suit look like it would be so much fun to operate? Who was that talking to you in that vision?
So in case you may not have figured it out, that laser is the same that shot down your ship. Since the planet is under quarantine no one is allowed to land on it. They get detroyed. The Aurora was simply big enough to actually crash land on the planet and not just get disintegrated
please dont stop making this series 🙏🙏
this is the saga im most excited about
As someone who also is terrified of the open ocean and giant sea monsters and had basically all the same recations as you... It's worth conpleting, the story is soooooo good and completing the game just feels so rewarding. Its the type of game I hate because I cnat help but love it no matter how much I hate it
And also just felt like I should leave a comment to help the algorithm along heh
41:52 I love Subnautica, but I agree that reading through the logs is kind of tedious. I know that they have a purpose, and I'm sure a lot of effort went into them, but reading the logs for every obscure plant can get boring.
Guys, we must ratio him into finishing the game. Like the video!! Comment!! Subscribe to his channel!!
Yes.
I haven't seen other comments talk about this so;
You mentioned in this video that the fear of the big fish is something you can deal with/overcome; but that deep seated paranoia about the open ocean is what *really* gets you. As a long time Subnautica veteran: same. I also tend to hug nearby surfaces to give me a sense of safety, space, & direction.
Getting that big Cyclops submarine makes all the difference in the world for me in that big empty open water. And ironically, the late game being so deep means you have environment below & around you, so it's less "open water terror"
If you're willing to keep going long enough to get the Big Ship then things might just get a lot easier for you
You seem uncertain how much enjoyment vs terror you're having; & worried about time commitment, but I do hope you're able & willing to keep going, & that it'll get a bit less scary as you get better equipment & more familiar with things!
As great as this game is, and as much as your commentary is funny and interesting, I don't really see how you can talk in this way about your experience with a game if you didn't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, the game is terrifying, but that's why is captivating and why I find your playthrough thus far so entertaining. I get not wanting to make videos of games people don't want to see, and I also get being busy to the point where you can't play games in your free time, but if you aren't gonna continue the game when it does poorly, why'd you make a second part in the first place? People really do want to see this game from you, the amount of people in the comments saying to continue should be evidence of that, but if you're gonna end it off after it doesn’t do well enough, then I kinda wonder how you actually have fun playing games for youtube? Ig you're better at this than me, but it kinda seems like you're letting the numbers guide your actions rather than your own enjoyment and inspiration for your channel, and that kinda sucks. :(
I made a second one because the first did perform alright at the end of the day, at least well enough to do a second part. But really, this channel is the only way I can justify playing this games I never got to check out. I don't know if I'll like them or not when I play them. The issue with Subnautica is that it's so long that I can't justify putting in all the time if the video is going to perform poorly because there are loads of others games I can play. If I don't enjoy a game outright then I will refuse to continue, the only reason I say "maybe I continue" is because I enjoy it enough to do so but if there is no apparent interest in that then I'd rather try another game I might enjoy more, takes less time, or performs better on the platform.
43:52 This is the only real flaw in the game. Every video of a first time player comes to this point: That they find the exit before the entrance to the aurora.
44:26 That is the correct code...but not for that door
Subnautica is kinda underrated, so the lower views check out, unfortunately. Still, it is one of the better games out there, so I hope you'll finish it!
More Subnautica
just so you know, you went in the opposite direction of the island, since you were observing your base from the island, and your base was about SE you would have to travel NW from your base.
So I'm fairly sure that the weird sloped area was the abyss, basically the edge of the map.
If you really refuse to read the databank, stop playing the game. Story and scientific discovery is a major part of the game.
I wouldn't say so. You can very much stumble your way to the end simply by exploring and searching for upgrades. It is not nessesary to play space detective, although it is one of the best things about this game for me
I'm looking forward to seeing you play bioshock. Another great one is Fable.
If you want to you can keep playing.
If fans want it you SHOULD keep playing.
That’s bad actually…
One year one world Subnautica edition?
never
45:41 "Oh, I want one of those" * proceeds to not scan it *
It's OK I did the *exact* same thing.
Btw I might be wrong, but humans can go really deep. We are mostly water which is pretty incompressible, so the depth doesn't do much to us. The seamoth on the other hand is a big pocket of air so that compresses and gets crushed by the pressure (I might be wrong on this, that's just my experience and knowledge)
31:57 pressure does not matter unless you are a vehicle
you need to play HUBRIS in VR.
You'll face your fear like never before.
32:10 You are mostly water just like your surroundings. The only issue are the gasses you breath, really, with nitrogen buildup being the first hurdle. Satuaration divers work in a depth of 3000 Feet (1000 meters) on underwater maintenance and construction.
I think you are gonna struggle to know the story and where to go without looking at the PDAs/ Data Downloads etc... but I get that it's not everyone's cup of tea.
I just hope you enjoy the game, if you aren't then don't force yourself to play it. There's a considerable time sink in this game with resource collection/management that can be... painful...
But... and it's a big butt, if you put the time in there is a big payoff in the end. I was genuinely sad when it was over.
But once again, don't feel like you have to play for folks if you hate it. Xxx
23:05 oh wow, if you hadn't done the thing with the green thing that probably wouldn't have happened lol, btw, I'm with you with the whole deep sea freaky place thing, I call it The Empty, freaks me out, which is weird cuz I love sailing.
P.S. Keep it going :) I was too scared to play this game lol
I love your video ,please play more subnautica , your sense of humor and reactions spark joy and I can't wait for you to uncover the mysteries of the ocean planet! It has some really cool biomes and more creatures to explore, not to mention the alien technology♡☆ and the story and music is bomb! So I hope you'll continue playing!
you’re a funny guy keep up the uploads of this game i love it
Please play this again.
The big fish a the huge ship is called the reaper and the scariest part in my opinion about the reaper is when you get grabbed by the reaper And you see its face as he starts chomping at you