I ride the x formula too. Been on the nanos for about 3 weeks. I love them. Waaaaay better than the x. Seeing my wheels has unlocked so many tricks for me! Super grippy on rough and smooth asphalt and same for concrete. Slides really well (out the package they don’t slide but give it a few minutes) AMAZING on curbs. The extra room is exactly what I needed for my Indy 144s to lock PERFECTLY on curbs. The outside round edge is amazing for climbing up curbs, the side cut inner edge locks you in great. Same for rails and it slides great on them. Being able to see my wheel under my board now, I can place it perfectly. Manuals are effortless. Can’t wait to learn coconut mannies! (Definitely not trying to review on your post, just posting my impressions!)
hell yeah! glad to hear it. seeing the wheel definitely threw me off at first, but after about 15 minutes it didnt bother me anymore. i thought they were gonna mess with my flip tricks, but so far so good. i suck at heelfips but the sesh i had the other day i nailed 3 perfect ones in a row. theyre workin for me. pinned your comment so people see it. the more info people get the better. thank you for your input!
@@stickersteve007 it was definitely different! Haha. That’s awesome man! Heel flips vs kickflips? I’m a kickflips guy myself haha I was waiting for somebody to do a review on these rigs just to compare to what it experiencing and it seems like a lot of people are on the same wave. They’re amazing but take some getting used to! I definitely think they like a better x formula. They used the same formula but improved it imo Thanks for the pin bro! You got a sub outta this guy haha keep shredding
The only gimmick about Andy, is that he is 100% skater. Everything is not for everyone, i love the dragons, his board designs and i think he is a true inspiration for progressing the skateboarding style. Peace from Sweden!
Just got mine in the mail, watched this video while setting them up on a fresh setup. I bought the exact same setup I was previously riding a set of dragon formula on. The one thing I noticed, you get sucked up onto rounded curbs so easily, and because of the outside profile, I roll out of cracks I previously got stuck in. Tossed it at a curb I haven't been confident skating because it drops about half an inch from blacktop to concrete, and catches me every single time coming off on my dragons. Definitely go find some classic rounded curbs and you'll see how effortless it feels.
Also audio is super crystal clear in both ears now. Now I gotta fight the wheel madness. I’m just too curious. Looking forward to the long term review.
@@stickersteve007 yeah he did...and he commented ....LoL...I screen shot it because I didn't believe it either....coconut wheelie!!!!! I've been a "poser" or rather really bad skateboarder for 40 plus years....I love Andy!!!!old women in skating are so ignored. I'm 53. That was RAD for sure
Had bones 56mm park formula for last year or so and just felt id try something new so went with spitfire 56mm 80a, quite Impressed, different kettle of fish
finally some coverage on these wheels. i do a lot of slappies which got me interested in them. the stability is something i didn't consider and that's kind of cool. i've been skating dragons and been wanting to try the x formula. i think i would rather go for these just to switch it up completely.
In your situation I'd say go with these. Unless you want a bigger wheel than 52mm. Bigger sizes will be out eventually. I definitely noticed a difference for slappy 50's and stability
@@stickersteve007 been skating 54 dragons. i pretty much need dragons in my area since everything is crust here. i tried going back to classics but it's unbearable. i'm interested in 97a though since i sometimes stick on ledges but slappies are fine. kind of tempted to kook myself and learn coconut wheels when i get these lol
Whoa!! Sexy cool intro and that clip to highlight the shape. Real slick. These kind of remind me of the Mini Combo OJ wheels. I picture them coning after awhile. Forgot to mention I like the outro sign at the end. Nice touch.
They are now out in 93a and 52mm-60mm i believe. Those are available in the UK, mostly... but the other version they released isn't, which is this 97a one but in 54mm-60mm again, so im sure we'll hear more reviews and first impressions soon. Loved watching you slowly start to really like these. It seemed you did anyway 😊 Edit: i have them in 54mm 93a and love them. I wa also already a convert to the 93a normal v6 and v4 dragons anyway in 53/54mm. For street skating that is.
Cool video man. I like your style. I’m enjoying the new wheels myself. They did take a little getting used to but I like them. The stability is hands down better.
I'm still just impressed with myself, I took a fully uneducated guess before I watched Andy's video, and was right about them not just sitting beyond the bolt, but also being a harder Dragon formula. I know that's not a hard call.. but having been out of the game for a while, I was happy to get that right haha.
I like my X97's a lot and these look like a great shape for curbs, sort of wish they did them with the new x99 formula though as the 97's grip on noseslides a bit more than I'd like. You have to really lean into them and go fast which ends up heroic or slamtastic without much middle ground
@jcarlosrodriguezm I actually did at first, but now I'm used to it. I may try it down the road, but I don't wanna change my truck's. I'd probably try it on a 8.5 deck
I wouldn't say I'd recommend them over the x97 wheels, but I'd put them in the same realm. I'd probably still steer people to the x97 because they offer a few different shapes and sizes to accommodate what your wheel preference is. But when these come in bigger sizes, that could change. 52mm is small for a lot of people these days
Nice Review, I'd like to have those four, mostly because I like Chunky wheels and 97 are perfect 4 me, I love My Slime balls but I feel curious about these Cubics.
Nice 360 flip and bs 180s, they’d probably be better on a bit narrower trucks. I’m not super keen on asymmetrical shapes and offset cores bc I like to rotate wheels when they start to cone out. I usually get 56-60mm and ride them forever. Probably down to 53-54 now. I like that they cover the nuts though, I like wider wheels like radial/radial full
How are they for wallies/wallrides ? Only reason im curious to stop using spits lockins wheel. I also ride bigger trucks than my board because i like seeing the wheel pretending im a monster truck
I have 4 total Andy Anderson boards and now two sets of these. My honest impression is he should have never mentioned the word Dragon or allowed his wheels IN ANY WAY to be compared. They are not like Dragons at all and I was hoping for simply a Dragon with freestyle features. The wider contact patch makes these much grippier than I am used to and the slide is different as well. Dragons are so far ahead of everything I’ve ridden that these are a good niche wheel if you need axle nut protection or find Dragons too slippery or soft and do things like wallride and coconut wheelie. None of those apply to me but axle nut protection is cool. I absolutely feel it a step down in feel and the perks of the wheel don’t apply to me. These may be a better feeling wheel than (insert any name) it just isn’t close to a better feel than Dragons for me. I think people should understand up front if you are used to Dragons don’t expect the same feel. Closer to X97
I agree. They should have kept the word dragon away from these. I'm 100% sure that it is the x formula, but I get why they didn't call it that. For my type of skating they seem to be working well. But I can see myself goin back to the bones x97's
@@stickersteve007 There are so many styles and preferences of skating I would never say these wheels aren’t excellent. I think every skater that owns Dragons or has ambitions to own them needs to understand this is an entirely different wheel. Wheels at full price aren’t exactly cheap. I hope they get wonderful acclaim. It’s a no for me dawg. Not in a world where Dragons are real
@@stickersteve007 Forgot to state I’m an old ass man and the softness of the Dragons is everything on my old ass knees coming down from any landing higher than a foot. It is a quick way to piss off old heads that cream over that Dragon soft feel on our joints by having us believe another wheel is similar. Don’t mind me I’m old and tender kneed
Just so you know they make these wheels in 93a Dragon Formula now (which is the actual dragon formula) the “97a dragon formula” is literally just the bones X97 formula. They go all the way up to 60mm with these wheels!
I hadn’t thought of it, but with the graphics in it’s probably similar outer profile to the stf wheels. Not sure which shape, but they’re like shopping cart wheels. Like tablets. They skate alright but they look goofy
hey man. can you give me an idea of how much wider these will be switching from dragons? its either get these wheels or new trucks, since my 159s arent wide enough for my new board. my dragons are worn out and it would be nice if i could just get the nanos to fit my 9.5 board and not have to get new trucks. right now it looks like im riding a magic carpet. its hard for me to measure since the nanos are offset if that makes any sense
I thought these wheels where going to be the best thing but the wheel bite is horrible compared to x97 I keep thinking I just need to break them in more. my 93 dragons slide a lot better, idk what’s so wrong with the nano cubic
yeah the wheelbite is definitely very noticeable. it really bothered me at first, but i feel used to it now and in a weird way its forcing me to land my flip tricks better. im still thinkin of goin back to the x97's though. personally i have no issues with the way they slide
not bad but you're a big guy so i'm 6'1 170 and i find 101's (usually hard (pun intended) aren't easy to find and usually forgotten as the harder they are the less wheel bit you get @@stickersteve007
@@stickersteve007 glad you like them. PROD has been riding them for years so there’s nothing wrong with them really. Back in the day I was all about Destructo. Pure garbage but I learned alot of tricks on them somehow. Haha. Then turned Indy addict since around ‘05
@@stickersteve007 interesting. Not long ago after watching Ben Degros’ skateboard parts madness I decided to try a whole bunch of different trucks and I couldn’t do the switch to any of them. I did like the grind feel of ventures so I guess that’s why they’re good for slappys.
@memorysometimers3067 yeah they grind great. I went through the same thing with trucks. Ventures were the only ones that I liked. I'm done with trying trucks now
I'll never not think his boards are gimmicks because he says 'its perfect' everytime he makes a new one. Welll if it was perfect hed never have to make a new one. I prefer the classic shapes... These wheels on the other hand im getting JUST to protect my axle threads. Hate smashed threads.
I ride the x formula too. Been on the nanos for about 3 weeks. I love them. Waaaaay better than the x. Seeing my wheels has unlocked so many tricks for me!
Super grippy on rough and smooth asphalt and same for concrete.
Slides really well (out the package they don’t slide but give it a few minutes)
AMAZING on curbs. The extra room is exactly what I needed for my Indy 144s to lock PERFECTLY on curbs. The outside round edge is amazing for climbing up curbs, the side cut inner edge locks you in great. Same for rails and it slides great on them.
Being able to see my wheel under my board now, I can place it perfectly.
Manuals are effortless. Can’t wait to learn coconut mannies!
(Definitely not trying to review on your post, just posting my impressions!)
hell yeah! glad to hear it. seeing the wheel definitely threw me off at first, but after about 15 minutes it didnt bother me anymore. i thought they were gonna mess with my flip tricks, but so far so good. i suck at heelfips but the sesh i had the other day i nailed 3 perfect ones in a row. theyre workin for me. pinned your comment so people see it. the more info people get the better. thank you for your input!
@@stickersteve007 it was definitely different! Haha. That’s awesome man! Heel flips vs kickflips? I’m a kickflips guy myself haha
I was waiting for somebody to do a review on these rigs just to compare to what it experiencing and it seems like a lot of people are on the same wave. They’re amazing but take some getting used to! I definitely think they like a better x formula. They used the same formula but improved it imo
Thanks for the pin bro! You got a sub outta this guy haha keep shredding
@@BHonest really appreciate the sub. I'm definitely a kickflip guy. I'm always super happy when I can land a heelflip.
I'm glad they're working for you. I'm already a fan. Nice tre flip btw. That was sick! 👊
Thanks dude! I was surprised it happened so fast haha
The only gimmick about Andy, is that he is 100% skater. Everything is not for everyone, i love the dragons, his board designs and i think he is a true inspiration for progressing the skateboarding style. Peace from Sweden!
Nice first impressions video. Thanks.
Thanks! And thanks for checkin the video out!
just discovered your channel a couple days ago and I must say I LOVE HOW YOU DO YOUR SKATESTUFF AND YOUR VIDEOS.... please more
Thanks dude! I appreciate it 🙏 thanks for the feedback
Nice review man, really enjoy watching your videos. Digging the shirt too
Thank you. I really appreciate you watching the videos!
underrated channel for real , subscribed n love u already u have a lot of potential
Wow thanks dude! I really appreciate that sincerely
Just got mine in the mail, watched this video while setting them up on a fresh setup. I bought the exact same setup I was previously riding a set of dragon formula on.
The one thing I noticed, you get sucked up onto rounded curbs so easily, and because of the outside profile, I roll out of cracks I previously got stuck in.
Tossed it at a curb I haven't been confident skating because it drops about half an inch from blacktop to concrete, and catches me every single time coming off on my dragons.
Definitely go find some classic rounded curbs and you'll see how effortless it feels.
Right on! So you're liking them? I'm still skating them, but I'm still on the fence if they will be a long term wheel for me.
Also audio is super crystal clear in both ears now. Now I gotta fight the wheel madness. I’m just too curious. Looking forward to the long term review.
Thanks dude. They are gonna stay on for now.
"now i can learn coconut wheelies...yeah thats not happening"....lmao.... I'm in agreement 😂
id have to get a pretty wild hair up my ass to attempt it haha
I laughed so hard 😂
No way the @authenticandyanderson actually watched my video? That's rad as shit!
@@stickersteve007 yeah he did...and he commented ....LoL...I screen shot it because I didn't believe it either....coconut wheelie!!!!! I've been a "poser" or rather really bad skateboarder for 40 plus years....I love Andy!!!!old women in skating are so ignored. I'm 53. That was RAD for sure
I feel like they make you go faster I’ve been flying since I got them I like how smooth they are in the park
I agree. They've felt great everywhere. I've went to the park a couple other crusty spots and I have no complaints yet
I was mostly interested in the offset bearing position. I am always smashing up my axel nuts and slipping my axels.
Yeah that's a definite plus.
Had bones 56mm park formula for last year or so and just felt id try something new so went with spitfire 56mm 80a, quite Impressed, different kettle of fish
finally some coverage on these wheels. i do a lot of slappies which got me interested in them. the stability is something i didn't consider and that's kind of cool. i've been skating dragons and been wanting to try the x formula. i think i would rather go for these just to switch it up completely.
In your situation I'd say go with these. Unless you want a bigger wheel than 52mm. Bigger sizes will be out eventually. I definitely noticed a difference for slappy 50's and stability
@@stickersteve007 been skating 54 dragons. i pretty much need dragons in my area since everything is crust here. i tried going back to classics but it's unbearable. i'm interested in 97a though since i sometimes stick on ledges but slappies are fine. kind of tempted to kook myself and learn coconut wheels when i get these lol
@@crab-cake I'd be terrified to try coconut wheelies
Whoa!! Sexy cool intro and that clip to highlight the shape. Real slick. These kind of remind me of the Mini Combo OJ wheels. I picture them coning after awhile. Forgot to mention I like the outro sign at the end. Nice touch.
We will see if I skate them long-term
They are now out in 93a and 52mm-60mm i believe. Those are available in the UK, mostly... but the other version they released isn't, which is this 97a one but in 54mm-60mm again, so im sure we'll hear more reviews and first impressions soon. Loved watching you slowly start to really like these. It seemed you did anyway 😊
Edit: i have them in 54mm 93a and love them. I wa also already a convert to the 93a normal v6 and v4 dragons anyway in 53/54mm. For street skating that is.
Cool video man. I like your style. I’m enjoying the new wheels myself. They did take a little getting used to but I like them. The stability is hands down better.
Yeah, at first, I was not feeling them as you saw. But now I'm diggin them, and they'll stay on for a bit
Solid Tre my guy. I feel like the main benefit on these are the slappies.
I agree. I like the stability too, but you can achieve that with any wider wheel
Thanks for reviewing
Thanks for watching!
I'm still just impressed with myself, I took a fully uneducated guess before I watched Andy's video, and was right about them not just sitting beyond the bolt, but also being a harder Dragon formula. I know that's not a hard call.. but having been out of the game for a while, I was happy to get that right haha.
Hell yeah! I hope you enjoy them. If not, definitely try the x97 bones
Do these powerslide same as dragons?
I'd say better. They are harder
I know it’s not wholly related to the video but have you ever tried Spitfires 97A formula and if so how would you compare that to the X-Formula?
I haven't tried them.
@@stickersteve007 naw. Maybe some of the other fellas have.
I like my X97's a lot and these look like a great shape for curbs, sort of wish they did them with the new x99 formula though as the 97's grip on noseslides a bit more than I'd like. You have to really lean into them and go fast which ends up heroic or slamtastic without much middle ground
They should just offer these in multiple sizes and durometers. Which they might eventually
There is definitely a difference after they are broken in.
Is that an 8' board? Those 52's looked wide in that set up! Great video man!
8.25 with 8.25 trucks. It's weird they look really wide.
@@stickersteve007 have you consider set up the wheels with 8" wide trucks and 8.25 deck ?
@jcarlosrodriguezm I actually did at first, but now I'm used to it. I may try it down the road, but I don't wanna change my truck's. I'd probably try it on a 8.5 deck
Wanna try those. Love the concept…I love the dragon formula. …love the shape.
@christophersawyer253 they are good wheels. Just a lil wide for me.
So would you recommend them over the regular X97 shapes (V1, V5 and V6) if someone was going to buy a set of X97 wheels? If so, why?
I wouldn't say I'd recommend them over the x97 wheels, but I'd put them in the same realm. I'd probably still steer people to the x97 because they offer a few different shapes and sizes to accommodate what your wheel preference is. But when these come in bigger sizes, that could change. 52mm is small for a lot of people these days
@@stickersteve007 exactly 52mm for $3 more than X97 that you can get in 56mm V6? Not worth the money regardless of the shape lol..
Nice Review, I'd like to have those four, mostly because I like Chunky wheels and 97 are perfect 4 me, I love My Slime balls but I feel curious about these Cubics.
i recommend tryin these or a bones x formula wide cut. because they have different sizes available
@@stickersteve007 thx bro!
Nice 360 flip and bs 180s, they’d probably be better on a bit narrower trucks. I’m not super keen on asymmetrical shapes and offset cores bc I like to rotate wheels when they start to cone out. I usually get 56-60mm and ride them forever. Probably down to 53-54 now. I like that they cover the nuts though, I like wider wheels like radial/radial full
These I the first asymmetrical wheel I've had. Bit weird at first.
@@stickersteve007 i have some oj2s from mid '80s, i think most if not all were asymmetrical back then
@@diplenski I think you're right
There weren't many asymmetrical wheels in the '80's.
@@vorpalblades it's all i remember seeing, especially early to mid-'80s. maybe i just saw a bunch of ojs and kryptonics
How are they for wallies/wallrides ? Only reason im curious to stop using spits lockins wheel. I also ride bigger trucks than my board because i like seeing the wheel pretending im a monster truck
I'd tell you, but I can't do those haha. Although wallies are on my list to learn soon. These might be the perfect wheels to give em a try
I ordered the 93a 54mm, the red writing ones. Is It good for rough spots? Cuz I only find reviews over the 97a, BLUE ones
@@unripper yes. Those ones are even softer. They use the dragon formula
I have 4 total Andy Anderson boards and now two sets of these. My honest impression is he should have never mentioned the word Dragon or allowed his wheels IN ANY WAY to be compared. They are not like Dragons at all and I was hoping for simply a Dragon with freestyle features. The wider contact patch makes these much grippier than I am used to and the slide is different as well. Dragons are so far ahead of everything I’ve ridden that these are a good niche wheel if you need axle nut protection or find Dragons too slippery or soft and do things like wallride and coconut wheelie. None of those apply to me but axle nut protection is cool. I absolutely feel it a step down in feel and the perks of the wheel don’t apply to me. These may be a better feeling wheel than (insert any name) it just isn’t close to a better feel than Dragons for me. I think people should understand up front if you are used to Dragons don’t expect the same feel. Closer to X97
I agree. They should have kept the word dragon away from these. I'm 100% sure that it is the x formula, but I get why they didn't call it that. For my type of skating they seem to be working well. But I can see myself goin back to the bones x97's
@@stickersteve007 There are so many styles and preferences of skating I would never say these wheels aren’t excellent. I think every skater that owns Dragons or has ambitions to own them needs to understand this is an entirely different wheel. Wheels at full price aren’t exactly cheap. I hope they get wonderful acclaim. It’s a no for me dawg. Not in a world where Dragons are real
@alstone5005 I 100% get where you're coming from. The dragons were just too soft feeling for me, but skated great
@@stickersteve007 Forgot to state I’m an old ass man and the softness of the Dragons is everything on my old ass knees coming down from any landing higher than a foot. It is a quick way to piss off old heads that cream over that Dragon soft feel on our joints by having us believe another wheel is similar. Don’t mind me I’m old and tender kneed
Just so you know they make these wheels in 93a Dragon Formula now (which is the actual dragon formula) the “97a dragon formula” is literally just the bones X97 formula. They go all the way up to 60mm with these wheels!
not sure if he covers
this but theyre made with freestyle in mind, smaller trucks to make them sit flush with the deck.
I don't think he said that, but that would make sense.
I bought some day they dropped I love them
I'm still riding mine. Besides the wheelbite, I have no complaints
Powell has really leaned into Andys autisum as a brand.
He and his products are definitely pushed heavily by Powell. And other youtubers
How do you feel about these wheels now?
@Choom89 I got rid of em. They were great wheels. Just were too wide for me.
it is a great wheel. i put the graphic inside so i can protect my trucks from grinding.
Haha I like that 😄
I hadn’t thought of it, but with the graphics in it’s probably similar outer profile to the stf wheels. Not sure which shape, but they’re like shopping cart wheels. Like tablets. They skate alright but they look goofy
@@diplenski mine was just a joke. :)
😂
hey man. can you give me an idea of how much wider these will be switching from dragons? its either get these wheels or new trucks, since my 159s arent wide enough for my new board. my dragons are worn out and it would be nice if i could just get the nanos to fit my 9.5 board and not have to get new trucks. right now it looks like im riding a magic carpet. its hard for me to measure since the nanos are offset if that makes any sense
They are definitely wider. I used them on my 8.25 ventures to setup a 8.5 deck and it felt normal. Also put 3 washers on the inside to widen it more
They open up new possibilities and push the limits.
Thesw wheels are great! Love the stability and they still slide!
yeah they slide better than i thought they would
@@stickersteve007 im in love with the mini logo 101a cuts!!! Super slick great shape and half the price
waiting for the damn dragon formula mini cubics!!! i want a bit softer mini cubic for cruising
I hope they do that for you dude
thank you so much! like I am sure theyre popular enough??? @@stickersteve007
Get the RatBones Dragons.
It's essentially the same shape with a smaller outside radius.
Only available in 60mm. though.
i have they arent quite as smooth as i expected thinking the 5mm could help@@vorpalblades
yeah its a much smaller wheel generally...
They're essentially smaller RatBones with a larger radius on the outside edge.
Pretty much
These are my favorite wheels ever. Spitfire, Bones (original formula), Ricta, OJs, skated them all and don't like any of them nearly as much.
it's definitely my favorite wheel formula ever. overall a very good wheel
Is that ikis on that deck I love ahh real monsters
It's 100% based off that show haha.
I feel like your trucks might be a little loose for you man you might want to tighten them.
It was 95 degrees, and my board was in my car all day at work. Bushings were a little soft haha
You rocked it also you don't have to say sorry at all
Thanks dude!
Only bad thing about the wheels is that they can't be rotated due to the design.... REALLY wish the graphics on the wheel were on the inside.
I thought these wheels where going to be the best thing but the wheel bite is horrible compared to x97 I keep thinking I just need to break them in more. my 93 dragons slide a lot better, idk what’s so wrong with the nano cubic
yeah the wheelbite is definitely very noticeable. it really bothered me at first, but i feel used to it now and in a weird way its forcing me to land my flip tricks better. im still thinkin of goin back to the x97's though. personally i have no issues with the way they slide
i think you need higher durometer bushings and INDY trucks
try 101
I have indy black bushings in my ventures. Wheelbite wasn't as much of a problem after a couple sessions.
not bad but you're a big guy so i'm 6'1 170 and i find 101's (usually hard (pun intended) aren't easy to find and usually forgotten as the harder they are the less wheel bit you get
@@stickersteve007
Oj Combo wheels,same design
I'd like to see em side by side. It's not really a new shape, but they are kinda advertised like they are.
No, it isn't.
Ventures!!?? 😑 That’s your board feel problem right there 😆😉
Haha I love my ventures
@@stickersteve007 glad you like them. PROD has been riding them for years so there’s nothing wrong with them really. Back in the day I was all about Destructo. Pure garbage but I learned alot of tricks on them somehow. Haha. Then turned Indy addict since around ‘05
@memorysometimers3067 I was always an indy guy. Avoided ventures forever. Glad I finally tried them
@@stickersteve007 interesting. Not long ago after watching Ben Degros’ skateboard parts madness I decided to try a whole bunch of different trucks and I couldn’t do the switch to any of them. I did like the grind feel of ventures so I guess that’s why they’re good for slappys.
@memorysometimers3067 yeah they grind great. I went through the same thing with trucks. Ventures were the only ones that I liked. I'm done with trying trucks now
Re-invention of the wheel is always a gimmick. It's not new, just means more options.
Got ‘em. I trust Andy.
theyre from andy anderson. nothing more needs to be said. :o)
They’re amazing for freestyle.
In fact the reason is probably why the nut is hidden is that it gives the user better flat ground user ability? What would Mullen do?
Roller board
Andy Anderson is wack. The circus is over. It's getting old
I totally get where you're coming from.
Bs
I'll never not think his boards are gimmicks because he says 'its perfect' everytime he makes a new one. Welll if it was perfect hed never have to make a new one. I prefer the classic shapes... These wheels on the other hand im getting JUST to protect my axle threads. Hate smashed threads.