Can You Skate Longer With Powell Dragon Formula Wheels?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Do Powell Peralta Dragon Forumula wheels actually reduce the impact, allowing for a longer skate session or skating later in life? My thoughts after three months with them, plus my experience with Avenue Suspension trucks and other impact reducing tactics I've tried.
Absolutelly yes.I´,m 44 and tried the Dragons and I´m amazed. Even these days I put my 101a wheel for a ride on a really smoth court and I was shocked how hard those are when landing and Ipve never noticed that. Put the dragons back and never looking back. They, with a good insole are really helping me to skate more and helping with my lower back problems.
Glad you are better! Keep posting man, I love the videos! I am 41 and just started skating again after a 15-year break. Your content is super helpful!
Awesome, welcome back!
I'm in my late 30s and haven't skated since a teen. I'm building a board now. Can't wait to try and get back into it. I can ollie but never landed a kickflip and always regretted it. I'm landing that kickflip!
I’m just getting started again at fifty-five years old. After some research on various setups I decided to try out Powell-Peralta Dragon Wheels with Independent Stage XI trucks. They are so smooth and the 56MM are fast too. Being new to all of the components available these days, I also set a board up with Ace AF1 trucks and Spitfire Formula Four Radials at 52MM/99A. They are very different from the Dragon Wheels but I like them as well. It seems like I feel a bit more comfortable on the Dragons at this stage of my development. I have not managed to power slide the Powell-Peraltas but the Formula Fours have worked well for that. Like you, I’ve been taking a couple of boards to the park so that I have more versatility based on how I’m feeling throughout the session. As you describe, the Dragons just feel so mellow after skating the Formula Fours. Great video and great skating!
I'd been riding spitfire F4 99s for the past 4-6 years and loved them. Recently I decided to try the Dragons and I really like them too. They don't slide as good as the F4s, but do roll that much better on shitty concrete, while sliding well enough. Made me really curious about the Spitfire F4 97s.
If you wanna be able to slide on ledges a bit easier some good wheels to try is either the bones formula X 97A wheels or Spitfire Formula 4 97A wheels hope this helps 😊
Spitfire f4 97d sticks more on curbs then my Powell dragons
I was so excited to see you posting videos again. Thanks for putting these together. Glad that you are healing up well.
I have been wondering about the dragons and appreciate your perspective on it.
best wheels for old folks slide and makes your board pop easy and smooth
Great video, I just found your channel and subscribed. I love setup videos and sorry you messed up your foot but stoked you are back.
46 and back at it again too...just ordered some Dragons myself to try out... also currently into the OJ plain Janes and Bones filmers,both great soft wheels ...but I understand your point about needing to be able to slide a bit.
Welcome back! I'm trying X formulas now, not sold yet.
I love them. I got a lisfranc injury almost. 6yrs ago and that's when I started skating again. After healing of course. These wheels do help. I'm 49 now
Beat me to it man. I was about to say Avenue Trucks but for cruising. If you skate on rough ground and just want to push around it works great. Feels good on the feet and knees. You won't feel the rough terrain as much but some have said you feel disconnected from the feel. For me on the surfaces I have to ride on the Bones filmers are for me. Also great to see you're back and thanks for pointing out the flatness of the Dragons after time.
I found that the hybrid mini logo are really similar and way cheaper. But agreed that dragon is still a solid choice for older skater ;)
Just hit 40 myself and recently decided to get back in it myself. Gonna hold off on anything too technical for now until this slightly torn rotator cuff heals. One I setup I have is with 57mm ricta clouds 87 for super cruising, like you said they feel great but the sticky ness is almost a hazard sometimes. So I actually have some dragons on the way, I used to only skate 52mm in my prime but I started going bigger for less pushing and I feel like I robbed my younger self. I don’t know if I can ever go back to anything under 54mm. But great stuff man, looking forward to all your upcoming videos, feels like a special club and gives me motivation and confidence again! (Btw ACE trucks are a dream, those just came on the scene as I was falling out- 100% try em out if you can)
Welcome back to skating! Yeah the stickiness of the dragons has caused me to spill hard a couple of times. I'm trying out X formulas now.
interesting about the humidity! @10:00 . I have decided my 93 dragons are just really good cruiser wheels. X97 or X99 bones for when I actually want to skate and do tricks but still get the benefit of this formula.
Sorry to hear about your injury glad you’re recovering well
Similarly I've tried the clouds, 99a formula four, dragons and my go to lately has been the OJ Elite Nomads 95a. The formula four comes in 97a, classic shape only ,53mm though if that works for you and offers a little relief. The 95a works better for me on asphalt and the somewhat rough concrete parks.
Its so good to have you back mate! Ive always enjoyed your vids, and Its great to see you recovering and on the board again.
Definitely Green Dragon’s are a game change 👌🏻
Sorry what’s the difference besides colors for the 54MM?
@@Mase32 nothing. Bones, is the same company as powell and makes X formula in 97 and 99 duros. I'd recommend those highly over dragons. I like 97s as the goldilocks for this formula
Bones X97 are the exact same thing but slightly harder duro. HIGHLY recommend. the 99s are pretty good too but if you're in bad rough crusty ground, or the joints issue is a thing, 97 all the way. slide way better, less RUBBERY feel. Spitfire is releasing a new 93 that slides right now also!
Powell and Bones are both under the Skate1 distribution. It's likely that they released the 2 durometers types on different companies to give both brands some attention. And I bet they had the x formula ready a while back, but they just staggered it's release behind the dragons because they know skaters would flock to the harder duro.
I switched to the x formula from the dragons quite recently, and it definitely feels a lot closer to a skateboard wheel than the dragons. I do like that, but also am missing the cushioning effect I got used to with the dragons. It's gonna be a while, but I'm probably gonna go back to them after I grind these down haha
Good insight, thanks. I just got X formulas, trying them out now...
Just got my 56’s. MEGA.
Yes Please get some X97 and let us know how they compare to the Dragons and SFF4 99A. thanks!
I'm riding X formula 97's right now, and I think I'll try SFF4 97's next. Initial impression of the X formulas is that they absorb less than the dragons, but don't really slide any better. But I want to give them some time to break in.
Thanks for this video. I just got my first set of dragons but haven't used them yet. I'm still on my Bones on my other setup. Now I'm really interested to see if I feel that reduced impact on my 45 year old ankles and knees.
Hi I´m glad you´re back and recovering, get well and keep on with your excelent channel, I bought the wood glue you recomended in other video, it´s good but only in dry weather , cuz if it get just a little damp it becomes soff ,like a sticky substance , almost liquid. Regarding your injury I always use a pair of Ankle Stabilizer Braces to prevent that kind of things , I fasten the braces kinda thigh and down near the ankle and I fell they have protected me so well , the brand I´m using righ now is ORTONYX and got it from Amazon. Greetings! It´s good to see you again!
I use the wood glue technique but use Titebond's III Ultimate Wood Glue Brown (Waterproof) glue. I haven't had issue in wetter conditions ( I am in Colorado so I don't deal with much dampness). I have noticed that when it gets cold (below 20 degrees fahrenheit) it starts to chip off.
If you wanted to try something different you could give that a try. I have been using it for around a year and a half (since I saw the video) and love it.
@@jabbaughfc Thank you so much Jim! I´m going to buy it in a few days and give it a try! Greetings!! 👍🤜🤛🤝😊
Yeah I've experienced chipping in cold weather as well. Thanks for the suggestion!
Welcome back Dan! =)
Solid review , I just got back on my board this year at 35 and love the dragons, funny a younger kid at the park said the same to me “whoa your wheels are so quiet” , I tell you what though I also got some fp insoles which are good but just recently got a pair of es shoes the penny 2, and you can get their sti insoles free with orders over 75$ and they are so much better , it’s like waking on clouds … I would advise trying them out. The only bad thing about the dragons is trying to power slide or skirt/ pivot on park concrete, you definitely have to put some force into it.
Thanks for the tip, I've never tried ES shoes but maybe it's time.
Professor Schmitt and Andy Anderson explained having more surface area increases a slide because there’s more surface that is sliding. It’s counterintuitive, but if the entire wheel is made from the same material, we have to assume that it’s consistent. I doubt there’s a “slippery” layer on top and the rest of the wheel isn’t.
Thats silly
Also be on the look out for OJ wheels. They have a dual durometer wheel where it is 101A on the outside and 95A on the inside. That may be an alternative to what Bones and Powell are putting out.
Good tip, thanks. The first deck I bought when I started skating again had OJ's, maybe time to try them again.
Was riding mini logo 95a and now the dragons. Both worked well at my rough local park. Both feel better on the knees too! I like the dragons more but mini logos are great value.
so how long did this things last? i wonder, if i buy 58 mm, does it keep with me for a year before it wears down to 53 mm? i will use it on rough pavement, it would be useless when it becomes a small wheel.
@@mehmetfratozgun6858 I think you're going to get a year out of them. Unless all you do is power slides. They don't seem to wear down quickly but they can be stickier on coping than harder wheels. I wax the inside wall of the wheel if this happens and then they are fine.
@@ryanleahy704 thank you :)
Are you on the regular thunders or the lights? Im about to get back into it and was thinking the lights might be better to make ollies and flip tricks a little easier to learn. And one last thing have you heard of the dragon V4s? They are more of a wide patch conical wheel and was leaning maybe towards them in 54mm as i like a little wider patch/more square wheel
I can because where I live everything is haggard, I live in a country that always rains so nothing is smooth
The answer is no… cause they’re weird, slide when you don’t want and grip when they should slide on many spot, so after half an hour I get bored and would stop the session.. very unpredictable… I was stoked when they came out… but changed my mind… stick to formula four 99a…
Great video. Going to check the dragons out. Hey what are you doing to avoid re-injuring your achilles?
I'm wearing ankle supports most of the time when I skate, trying to notice any pain before it gets bad, let them rest, and do the strengthening exercises when they don't hurt. I think it may have also been due to the shoes I was wearing, they didn't quite fit right.
Thats Why U don't do Tricks when your an Older skater....I'm 57 and Bowl riding, going of curbs, firecracker maybe, possibly drop in at the extreme limit. Just Enjoy the transitions
I agree that maybe the x formula would be the best of both worlds.
I'm trying them right now ... jury is still out.
What bushings are you running?
I’ve been skating Dragons for a few months now, they almost feel as if they get harder as they get older. Not as much rebound as when brand new. For really smooth concrete I feel that they do stick too much so Formula Fours work better.
you can answer to my question i think so i will copy paste to you too: so how long did this things last? i wonder, if i buy 58 mm, does it keep with me for a year before it wears down to 53 mm? i will use it on rough pavement, it would be useless when it becomes a small wheel. thank you :)
@@mehmetfratozgun6858 I would say they last as long as Spitfires. Mine have lasted a good few months with minimal wear, however I don't tend to wear down my wheels very fast anyway.
@@technolange651 i took it as a yes. thank you :)
hey man. when i was 19 i did the same thing to my ankle and i put me out for the whole summer.it was way worse then just breaking my ankle as far as recovering from it. dont you think its time to switch to a good quality high top shoe? a 49 yr old skater thats been doing it since 86 recommends it. not just to you but all skaters. high top converse and junk like that no . some high top vans or dg ,airwalks something like that (even nikes)
dg?
Yeah that's a good point. I'm on some slightly higher nike sb's now, but maybe...
i popped my MCL like 8-9 months ago, its still shite
Are new balance shoes good skating shoes?
I love the NM440's, but I've had mixed success with other NB's that I've tried. From what I can tell it's highly subjective and completely unique to each persons foot shape.
I have both the X97 and Dragon wheels. Dragon wheels are faster, smoother, and slide better. X97 is harder but still shock absorbent. Just wish they slid better. Where is that DIY spot?
I think that's the pop up skate park at Maria Dorrell park in Cary, NC
@@foreroa is it still there?
@@yarxnug8B0O1I Yes it is.
Yep that's it. Nice little spot, but a bit cramped.
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