No. I love her in Sex Education but Thatcher she didn't quite capture. Meryl Streep did that better in the 2011 movie. Anderson portrayed Thatcher as some sort of 80 year old lady, totally overacted and all in all "caricaturized" the character. The real Margaret Thatcher looked and spoke nothing like Anderson did.
@@91clarie I have watched ThamesTV interviews with Thatcher and Anderson has the voice perfect. The weird head movements and strange diction Thatcher used is also all there. The way she walks and holds her bag is perfect. But most importantly the 'my way or the highway' tunnel vision Thatcher has is very there.
The Queen: oh that’s nice, I often wish my father and I could have ruled the country together for a short time. Would have reminded Thatcher about rank, also maybe made her think about the things she experienced that that Queen never got to. But balmoral is about thatcher’s class based insecurity, maybe that’s why she seized the brutal chance to simply answer “we worked!”
Despite Olivia Colman having been the lead, every single time Anderson came on screen, she stole the scene. Such meticulous accuracy, almost infuriating yet empathetic portrayal. The least bit honour she deserves is an Emmy nomination.
I have totally different view. It's so amazing how perception works. In my opinion the character of the Queen is such a great performance. When I saw Margaret I knew it's a performance, when I saw the Queen I saw the Queen. However, Anderson made amazing job, I didn't mean otherwise.
@@AamuAurora I completely understand. I have the same perception about the performance merely being one about Colman. She is wonderful at the job, but I can't see the queen in personification in her portrayal. On the other hand, there were instances where I forgot Anderson wasn't Thatcher.
@F D thats exactly what Ive been saying a caricature not a character. I thought her voice was good. Stance was good facial expressions not only bad but terrible- this is the constipated version of thatcher.
The first screen portrayals of Thatcher were caricatures - Janet Brown and Spitting Image. Subsequent attempts to portray Thatcher have all ended up as parodies.
I don't get why everyone loves her performance. Take a look at any videos of the real Margaret Thatcher- Anderson's performance is nothing like her. It seems like a caricature.
@@clementinea7523 I wholeheartedly agree! There is a total lack of honesty about Anderson's portrayal. For instance, the real Thatcher had a stake put through her heart, and garlic around her neck to ensure she never came back.
Both Meryl and Gillian passed the test with flying colours, but I did see a little bit of Meryl playing Thatcher, while Gillian seems like she’s ingested part of the Prime Minister’s DNA. The voice , the gestures , the cadence of the voice, her roughness… Gillian it’s such a SENSATIONAL underrated performer.
@S C That is so true. My elderly friend in Memphis can teach me a thing or too about shade, and I learned from an expert. My late mother, a Scottish aristocrat.
I would have said: “Why thank you ma’am, I am sure you have done wonders for the country and Commonwealth being stuck up here in your Scottish hidey hole.”
Colman is great as the queen, but in this season she gets some serious competition. Corrin is magnificent as Diana, but the best scenes are the queen and Thatcher meetings.
Nailed it? maybe nailed it for folks on the left who would rejoice in the disjointed, laughable, caricature she made of the Prime Minister but not close at all to 'nailing it' in the real sense of the term ie: accurately and realistically and believably duplicating the actual Lady
It's amazing how the queen, who inherited everything, deals with someone like Thatcher, who worked for it. It's a mix of bewilderment and respect, really shows the difference in class and approach.
@@jonesbell4568 Really? I´m a foreign living far from UK who don´t know a dime about your class system..Tatcher was to me what Merkel was now to a child who watch some news after school.. But this narrative sound a bit exaggerated.. How can someone declare war on working people?
It’s standard operating procedure for many, if not most, people with inherited wealth, and most particularly countries that have hierarchies based on a royal class (wealthy or not)
I don't think it's just that. But more that she disagreed with Thatcher on her points of views. She thought them to be very uncaring. The Royal family are known for their charitable works and Thatcher was the opposite of charity
Does not justificate all the barbaries that her government carried to the UK begging with the Welsh workers and miners finishing with the war in Northern Ireland.
She’s a great actress. But she didn’t ‘nail’ Thatcher. She wasn’t the caricature she’s portrayed as. She was a powerful competent female leader with personal integrity and a patriot and the Left really hates that. She wasn’t a monster. We could do with a leader like her now
When I saw this "Thatcher" performed, I couldn't for the life of me recognise Sculley from the X-files, that is truly great acting, when you can erase yourself in favour of the character you're playing. Great job Gillian!!
She was amazing as Lady Deadlock in Bleak House. There were scenes where she seemed to convey all her emotions just through the tension in her neck. And she was the spookiest Miss Haversham ever.
@@Cristobels-Green-Boots May I also add Gillian playing the psychiatrist of Dr Hannibal ' The Cannibal' Lectre. In that series, she did not need words.Even the glint in her eye "acts." She deserves a series of her own.
Really? I am not trolling, and I am not a native speaker so I might be missing something. But the way she acts and speaks sounds more like a caricature to me. I watched some original Thatcher here on youtube, if Anderson took it down halfway, it would be just right. Maybe people who remember the real one feel it as more precise because you get more aware, or irritated even by the intonation and mannerism you know so well when hearing it day in day out on TV?
@@caroline4323 It's absolutely a caricature, and not a very good one, either. I think the show runners just wanted to have a go at Thatcher in their own way.
Gillian Anderson was really good as Thatcher, and so was John Lithgow as Churchill, but I think the best and most interesting of Crown Prime Ministers was Wilson. He had an excellent chemistry with Olivia Colman in their scenes together and the most interesting storylines, especially the coup thing with Mountbatten and the KGB suspicions.
“You have power by doing nothing, I will have nothing” from 7:30 really hit me hard, I have yet to see this season but when the Queen asked her what she did with her father, knowing about Thatcher’s upbringing, I already knew she would reply working.
When The Queen honoured her with the medal (I'm not so sure what it was) I cried! It was such an intense, emotional and yet tender scene... I could feel Thatcher grievance while seeing her top goal to achieve.
in real political history they were a necessary yin and yang. Thatcher left to her own devices without the Queen would have been....Trump - the fact that she was such a dominant and sometimes overly exuberant personality, but in the British system, no one (pun intended) trumps QEII in an argument. It worked out well for both of them, and restored balance to both of them. Maggie waited a year to long to go - she would have left with more dignity had she done that.
The crown totally missed the whole Reagan-Thatcher relationship, that was such an integral partnership in 80s politics. Funny how they touched on Kennedy and LBJ, but not this. Hmm
I have the small suspicion that the creators of the Crown are not to fond of the right, hence they didn't want to give some of the spotlight to one of the most influential Republican presidents but did gave 2 or 3 episodes to one of the biggest stars of the left.
@@karlvnshwp6407 The Crown focuses on the Royal Family, and it’s relationship with world events and leaders. That’s why we don’t see anything between Maggie and Reagan, but we do between Princess Margaret and LBJ. Also, I think this series treats political leaders with kid gloves, they could have been MUCH harsher on Thatcher, or Wilson, or even Churchill.
@@dansfilms7901 yes but they also touched extensively, especially in the early seasons, on foreign policy, and the US was a huge ally at the time, so they missed it and did a disservice to the viewers in my opinion.
Watching these two actors together is an acting masterclass. Everyone though Season 4 would be all about Charles and Diana - but Gillian and Olivia soon put paid to that.
@@hothemeep1219 He really isn't. Notice how he never has won an emmy. Even for his own show where he was the lead and the part was tailored to him. Have you seen him in anything outside of xfiles. It's cringy.
@@dianeyoung8130 It's not the trophies or the hundred of films that make the man. You can participate in 100 movies and be a shitty actor. Duchovny in X-Files is a great actor and essential in it.
Are you for real?? She looks and sounds like Margaret Thatcher on her death bed....Margaret Thatcher was only 54 when she became Prime Minister, not a frail old lady she is portrayed to be in these series. Watch a couple of MT's interviews here on youtube and see for yourself, she was nothing like that in real life. I think Gillian Anderson was a poor poor choice for this role!
bloody hell, her performance, the way she lengthens certain words, its just so well done. spot on infact, I hope she won a few awards for this because she has more than earned them
Funny reading about comments on Anderson’s voice and appearance as Thatcher. She’s an actor, not a mimic. She brought Thatcher’s gravitas to the screen. That’s quite an achievement for any performer.
@@luciansanchez8100 Nope. Not really. Not as important as you might think. The thing about historical portrayals after the advent of nightly news, the internet and social media is that there’s an expectation that the actor must look and sound exactly like the true figure they are playing. John Lithgow won an Emmy award and Gary Oldman won an Oscar for their respective portrayals of Winston Churchill. Their performances were miles apart from each other-does that mean that one was worse than the other? Or does it mean that actors are given license to act?
@@luciansanchez8100 I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not a Brit, but I did grow up during Thatcher’s term, and to me Anderson’s performance encapsulated that time, just as Olivia Coleman and Tobias Menzies have done the same for their roles. Anderson’s voice is, at last, her own voice, not Thatcher’s. We might as well criticize Vanessa Kirby for being taller than Princess Margaret.
Gillian Anderson has single-handedly been the star and best actor this year for all movies in all categories and within The Crown, her and John Lithgow(both acting as PMs) are the best performers.
I felt sorry for Margaret Thatcher during the scenes when she and her husband were invited out the queens country house or wherever it was. The royals were so stuck up and the Thatchers were so humiliated.
Gillian Andersen is brilliant as Margaret Thatcher. She really nailed it. Her voice, her intonation, body language, even the way she sat when being given a private audience with the Queen...give her all the awards. I know this isn't a film, but hell, give her an Oscars, too! PS: The casting director also deserves a shout.
Me too! That was the funniest scene of the season for me. The family were being unecessarilly mean and pedantic to her through the episode, but here I thought "what on earth was she thinking? Going stalking to the countryside in high heels and that bright blue suit" 😆
@@nazgullord3198 maybe its because she didnt want to go stalking in the first place and perhaps thought she would be excused from it if she wore such clothes haha
Gillian Anderson, you talented, incredible being. You connected us, the fans/the viewers with the essence of Margaret Thatcher throughout season 4 and such an amazing job you did at that!!! Bravo Netflix 👏🏽
The Queen is almost like a guidance counselor and even a bit of a moral conscience to the government leaders, at least as she’s portrayed on this show. I can see the wisdom in that kind of role.
It's effective propaganda isn't it. In reality she was invested in ensuring that her family was outside of the laws affecting everyone else.... Scumbags
yes yes, we should do away with those messy parliaments and whatnot, filled with showmen who simply speak to the common people's animalistic urges and fears. wise and visionary leaders, or führers as we call them, will know what is best for us.
@@jamesnotfound I would like to see how they protrayed Blair and how he participate in the Iranian Conflict without any mass destruction weapons. I hope to see that on this series.
Closed my eyes and there she was, BBC religiously every Wednesday questions to the PM. The wit, the clear and subtle mastery of the language, the PM was one of my favorite guilty pleasures while at the Sorbonne. ty Gillian hats off!
Love the bit where Thatcher is explaining the personal importance of her job and the deep sadness she feels in losing it. Especially explaining it to the person who’s complained from day one about having her own job.
The protests began before she was Prime Minister in 1976, when the Labour government withdrew special category status (ie. Irish republican prisoners were no longer prisoners of war, rather their status changed to criminals).
Yes! Especially in the aftermath where she iconically went towards the reporter's cameraman to repeat her statement that she intended for the conference later that morning to go on as planned.
She did such a good job that my mum who remembered well the entire Thatcher era was watching it with me and exclaimed "Ooooo god I hate her even more now than I did back then"
Yes, Thatcher was a truly nasty piece of work. She will have been told about Savile, but she still had him at Chequer's for Christmas for ten out of eleven consecutive years, even though her kids were young then.
@@alan2007-x8x She was Savile's main protector (even more so than associates of the Kray twins and the Metropolitan Police). The Palace were very reluctant to give Savile a knighthood but That her fixed it for him. In the early eighties Geoffrey Dickens MP tried to alert the government to others iyf Savile's ilk in high places. The investigation was dropped and the file of evidence went missing.
My Mom met Madam Thatcher once. Prime Minister Thatcher visited our country (Srilanka) and mom was a school kid. Madam Thatcher started the biggest agricultural project in our country and our people, Farmers still depend on her project. Thank you Gillian (Scully) for this outstanding performance. We asians love Madam Thatcher. She save us. Create food safety in my country. ❤️
@@lkez2 agreed. I love Gillian but having seen a lot of thatcher videos throughout the years, it's easy to see that her portrayal is more fitted as a caricature of maggie well after her time as prime minister, i.e. exaggerated voice, hair and expressions. Anderson played her very old, slow and frail when in reality, Thatcher in the 1980s was quick, assertive and independent.
I specially found interesting the episode where the Tatchers were invited for a weekend with the Royal Family at Balmoral Castle. It's so funny because despite them feeling awkward and out of place, it shows how ironically the Thatchers were more "Elegant and sophisticated" than the Royal Family itself. This is because they were a rich family from London, who was used to the life and style of a big city. In the other hand, the Royal Family, regardless of how rich and full of etiquette they were, still being country people. People born and raised in the countryside, where their hobbies, lifestyle and interactions were way different from those of people from the city. It was not so much related with highly educated politicians from London, but reminded more to the super old and ancient lifestyle of the former kings and royals from the Medieval Times, who lived in big castles in the fields and used to go ride horses, hunt, interact with animals and have long walks in the forest. A huge an interesting contrast.
@laputa6464 they weren't - Lincolnshire, where he owned the modern equivalent of a dairy or corner store. Her family also homed a Jewish teenager who escaped the Holocaust. Now, for what she did to a generation of miners in the 80's, I'm sure she's in the right place now, but that's a pretty cool little tidbit.
@@fives. Maggie T's father, Alf Roberts, was a shopkeeper in Grantham, near Nottingham but in true blue rural England. Denis T. was from SE London/ Kent area and had been a millionaire (at least in modern currency).
Yes, I didn't watch any episode of the serie but clips of Anderson's portrayal of Thatcher and as a fan of Dana's Scully ( which brought me to be curious about her next venture) , I have to say that, personally, I didn't think her representation of the former prime minister was that true to the real one. Anderson made it look like Thatcher was about 85 , slow and tired and from the few interviews that I watched, Thatcher sounded more energetic than that even at an older age...but got to give credit to Anderson for risking to divise anyway when acting such a historical character.
I thought Iron Lady was too kind to her though. You can be a terrible leader with awful opinions and still be empathetic as shown here. Iron Lady made her out to be kinder and the haters unfair in their judgment.
Actually no it’s not. The files released showed she used MI6 channels to conduct negotiations with the IRA during the Hunger Strike. I suggest you do some research rather than base your information on films.
@@christine-kht haha that's true, i was watching in a very silent room and i started laughing and people looked at me, because usually the episodes are serious and dramatic, i didn't think i would watch any scene like this one. Great show!
Not gonna lie. I despise MT, but that final scene made me teary eyed. Gillian Anderson was so brilliant. And she had Meryl Streep level shoes to fill, and she did it beautifully.
wheres the scene where she fought w the Queen over the newspaper allegations...and the poem she recited and when she stifled her cries when Geoffrey Howe resigned and her position is threatened....
That look on her face when she receives the Order of Merit..... It is simply amazing. For those of you who don't know as she points out it is an order that is given by the Sovereign in this case the queen and there are only 24 living members at any one time.
She was elected three times and was the longest serving PM in the 20th century for a reason. Movies can try to distort her legacy but they can't revise the truth.
@@dragan221 The point of her performance as an actress is not for her to simply be a mimic or do an impression. It is to create a stylized Thatcher that is true to the woman's essence while being compelling and interesting to watch.
The sound and style Gillian Anderson portrayed Margaret Thatcher was genius. It made you listen to what she said and separated her from the common chatter.
I absolutely adored Gillian Anderson in X Files, and now she’s portraying one of the strongest women in history, and did it stunningly. The voice and the faces and the walk. Give her an award.
Not everybody is gonna love MT but she was definitely a passionate leader. Decisive and brave, no wonder she is dubbed the iron lady. After all a leader's job is not to be loved but to decide.
Not everybody is gonna love Adolf Hitler but he was definitely a passionate leader. Decisive and brave, no wonder he is dubbed the fuhrer. After all a leader's job is not to be loved but to decide. When people say shit like you did its a liberal veil that hides the fact they dont dislike thatcher
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This has to be Gillian Andersons crowning achievement in acting. Give her every award thats available.
No. I love her in Sex Education but Thatcher she didn't quite capture. Meryl Streep did that better in the 2011 movie. Anderson portrayed Thatcher as some sort of 80 year old lady, totally overacted and all in all "caricaturized" the character. The real Margaret Thatcher looked and spoke nothing like Anderson did.
I mean she'll always be Dana Scully but ye you are correct.
@@91clarie I have watched ThamesTV interviews with Thatcher and Anderson has the voice perfect. The weird head movements and strange diction Thatcher used is also all there. The way she walks and holds her bag is perfect. But most importantly the 'my way or the highway' tunnel vision Thatcher has is very there.
@@leokimvideo All in all I think her portrayal was almost comedic though. Meryl Streep did a better job, sorry to say
@@91clarie I absolutely love the overacting in this role. It works for me and is very enjoyable to watch imo, even if it's not very realistic.
She’s the only reason I watch The Crown. Everytime she said “Your Majesty” with a deep voice, it really gave me the chills.
Not to mention how slow she would bow down and say those two words 😂
@@christiangarcia1645 Yes! Also that
@@christiangarcia1645 Oh how I love it 😂
Its called respect
The best character with the best lines.
"We worked" You dont get more real than that one sentence. Working was the only thing her father tought her to do. Its quite a powerful scene
Knowing that the Queen's only response could be, "We reigned!"
@@howtubeable The Queen admired Thatcher very much - she went to visit her privately and broke protocol to attend the funeral.
Yeah its weird that she hates workers and support welfare queens who live off of other peoples work
Kim K. "Nobody wants to work anymore" 🌠
@@patr70 who wanted? ;)
"My father taught me a great deal too."
"Oh what did you do together?"
"We worked.."
GOTTEM
Maggie was the first PM who come from a working class background, even among Labour PMs she is still the most working class PM, a grocers daughter
Thats how you do it!
..."we worked.." , oh ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was super
The Queen: oh that’s nice, I often wish my father and I could have ruled the country together for a short time.
Would have reminded Thatcher about rank, also maybe made her think about the things she experienced that that Queen never got to.
But balmoral is about thatcher’s class based insecurity, maybe that’s why she seized the brutal chance to simply answer “we worked!”
Despite Olivia Colman having been the lead, every single time Anderson came on screen, she stole the scene. Such meticulous accuracy, almost infuriating yet empathetic portrayal. The least bit honour she deserves is an Emmy nomination.
I have totally different view. It's so amazing how perception works. In my opinion the character of the Queen is such a great performance. When I saw Margaret I knew it's a performance, when I saw the Queen I saw the Queen. However, Anderson made amazing job, I didn't mean otherwise.
You mean Olivia Colman
@@AamuAurora I completely understand. I have the same perception about the performance merely being one about Colman. She is wonderful at the job, but I can't see the queen in personification in her portrayal. On the other hand, there were instances where I forgot Anderson wasn't Thatcher.
@@LennyCartwright right, thanks!
Phenomenal performance of Gillian Anderson. Give her that Emmy nomination
Her performance is out of this word. She proved that she is a true artist devoted to her art. Bravo Gillian.
Aptly put
If she doesn’t get nominated & win every award possible, it will be such a shame! She played this role so flawlessly!!!
She’s has competition... Anya Taylor joy for “ the queens gambit “ Sarah Paulson for “ratched ” all gave an outstanding performance. Tough year.
@Saul Martinez most likely !! I agree
I thought she was awful, and her voice and imitation infuriatingly poor
@F D thats exactly what Ive been saying a caricature not a character. I thought her voice was good. Stance was good facial expressions not only bad but terrible- this is the constipated version of thatcher.
@@1234jajadingdong I thought so too. It seems very weird. I thought Gillian as Thatcher had a spasm on her neck constantly
They made Margaret thatcher sound like she hasn't had water in 800 years
lmao 😂😂😂
@@ladiplomatica4483 RIGHT!!
Thatcher did kind of sound like that
YES, THANK YOU. I thought everyone was deaf lol
The first screen portrayals of Thatcher were caricatures - Janet Brown and Spitting Image. Subsequent attempts to portray Thatcher have all ended up as parodies.
Thatcher sounds like she’s been on a strict diet of cigarettes and gravel for 50 years.
@@theotherone8036 Yes we use gravel, the person might be young
@@bentancur-wd4vc or the Person is not a native speaker?
@@lucakli8098 yeah that can be a possibility too
She ate blue-blooded privileged windbags for breakfast.
That was only gillians acting, actual thatcher didnt really sound like that
"But isn't that all I am, Prime Minister? A tribal leader in eccentric costume? "
hahaha, keeled over laughing
Yes!
The answer, Dear Queen, is YES, that’s all you are!!
Well that is the most apt description I've ever heard.
@Theo Zajek Cope harder lmao. I'm sorry your time has passed Granddad, try not to get too down about it.
@@hoxilicious "cope" Fuck off back to reddit. That is not an argument. Where did you prove Theo wrong?
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I don't get why everyone loves her performance. Take a look at any videos of the real Margaret Thatcher- Anderson's performance is nothing like her. It seems like a caricature.
@@clementinea7523 I wholeheartedly agree! There is a total lack of honesty about Anderson's portrayal. For instance, the real Thatcher had a stake put through her heart, and garlic around her neck to ensure she never came back.
Do you sell 'She deserves a Golden Globe tickets" as well?
Both Meryl and Gillian passed the test with flying colours, but I did see a little bit of Meryl playing Thatcher, while Gillian seems like she’s ingested part of the Prime Minister’s DNA. The voice , the gestures , the cadence of the voice, her roughness… Gillian it’s such a SENSATIONAL underrated performer.
Her portrayal sounds nothing like MT. The voice is way overdone
Meryl was better
Streep was light-years better
Way better than Streep
@@iLoveBoysandBerries disagree. Streep did the accent much better
"And dressed for dinner already. How very thoughtful of you."
I've yet to meet a people who can give a back-handed compliment the way the English can.
@S C That is so true. My elderly friend in Memphis can teach me a thing or too about shade, and I learned from an expert. My late mother, a Scottish aristocrat.
The British speak fluent RUDE, and so quickly, too, that one has been verbally undressed before one even has time to remove one’s hat!
I would have said: “Why thank you ma’am, I am sure you have done wonders for the country and Commonwealth being stuck up here in your Scottish hidey hole.”
In real life, the Queen would never have been so rude.
Not something to be proud of.
Despite Olivia Colman's genuine performance, Gillian Anderson and Emma Corrin really did steal Season 4
Colman is great as the queen, but in this season she gets some serious competition. Corrin is magnificent as Diana, but the best scenes are the queen and Thatcher meetings.
@@lindakarlsson7348 Agreed.
I found Coleman much better and suited for the role in season 4. The competition between the 3 ladies/actors made this season remarkable.
True!
It's because Thatcher is such a great character. It's like a mission impossible movie and suddenly James Bond comes in
Gillian’s performance is unquestionably the best in the entire series and one of the best I have ever seen.
Speaking as a Brit, this is as painful as watching Hugh Grant playing George W Bush.
She nailed it!! She better win awards for this portrayal
Nailed it? maybe nailed it for folks on the left who would rejoice in the disjointed, laughable, caricature she made of the Prime Minister but not close at all to 'nailing it' in the real sense of the term ie: accurately and realistically and believably duplicating the actual Lady
She was awful. Totally overreacted. The real Margaret Thatcher did not speak as if someone was choking her all the time.
@@Vladdy89 She totally talked that way hahaha maybe you have something in your ear
She just won a golden globe fuckers🤣😂
@@wunkah right 😎😎😎😎
It's amazing how the queen, who inherited everything, deals with someone like Thatcher, who worked for it. It's a mix of bewilderment and respect, really shows the difference in class and approach.
@@jonesbell4568 Really? I´m a foreign living far from UK who don´t know a dime about your class system..Tatcher was to me what Merkel was now to a child who watch some news after school.. But this narrative sound a bit exaggerated.. How can someone declare war on working people?
Or this is a fantasy created by writers only vaguely resembling things that happened.
It’s standard operating procedure for many, if not most, people with inherited wealth, and most particularly countries that have hierarchies based on a royal class (wealthy or not)
I don't think it's just that. But more that she disagreed with Thatcher on her points of views. She thought them to be very uncaring. The Royal family are known for their charitable works and Thatcher was the opposite of charity
@@NerdilyDone Not all of it fiction, some of it actually happened
I just cried when she receives the order of merit. Such a powerful scene.
She was speechless, I liked that.
She was the Devil, rest in hell
I cried when she died. It took way too long
@@hijo1998😂 right!?
@@hijo1998your mother's pjmp cried when you were conceived. out another 5 quid a week. 😂
Thatcher loved being the only woman in a male dominated position.
Could say she’s a dominix...one could say. :)
She had a SUCH a bad case of “I’m not like these other girls”
Must of felt pretty empowering, I’d imagine
Idc what everyone says but I'm absolutely mesmerised by how she manages to be assertive yet gracefully feminine at the same time.
Does not justificate all the barbaries that her government carried to the UK begging with the Welsh workers and miners finishing with the war in Northern Ireland.
The way she said “There is no dignity in the wilderness” wow! Gillian really nailed this character.
Oh that’s lovely.....how are you doing today hope you’re having a wonderful day today....I hope so my friend.......
She’s a great actress. But she didn’t ‘nail’ Thatcher. She wasn’t the caricature she’s portrayed as. She was a powerful competent female leader with personal integrity and a patriot and the Left really hates that. She wasn’t a monster. We could do with a leader like her now
When I saw this "Thatcher" performed, I couldn't for the life of me recognise Sculley from the X-files, that is truly great acting, when you can erase yourself in favour of the character you're playing. Great job Gillian!!
You just blew my fucking mind I had no idea they were the same person.
@@JDSileo : Always a tiny lady
(5ft 2”), with a huge presence!
‘House of Mirth’ worth a watch!
🙏🏻🌹🙏🏽
She was amazing as Lady Deadlock in Bleak House. There were scenes where she seemed to convey all her emotions just through the tension in her neck. And she was the spookiest Miss Haversham ever.
@@Cristobels-Green-Boots May I also add Gillian playing the psychiatrist of Dr Hannibal ' The Cannibal' Lectre. In that series, she did not need words.Even the glint in her eye "acts." She deserves a series of her own.
Just give her the Emmy, Bafta, Golden Globe and SAG already.
Oscar... don't forgot 😇😉
@@petersicheri9670 The Oscars are for movie actors
You don't even know Thatcher
2:48
@@annisaramadhannia5557 that's how low pitch and off it is.
You can almost forget it's not really her. the way she looks , speaks and acts is amazing.
just like Gary Oldman vanished into Winston Churchill in Darkest Hour!
her voice surprised me most
Really? I am not trolling, and I am not a native speaker so I might be missing something. But the way she acts and speaks sounds more like a caricature to me. I watched some original Thatcher here on youtube, if Anderson took it down halfway, it would be just right. Maybe people who remember the real one feel it as more precise because you get more aware, or irritated even by the intonation and mannerism you know so well when hearing it day in day out on TV?
@@caroline4323 It's absolutely a caricature, and not a very good one, either. I think the show runners just wanted to have a go at Thatcher in their own way.
Gillian and Olivia nailed their roles so much in there that their scenes just stood out by an incredible margin.
She deserves at least an Emmy nomination.
That final scene between them is truly magnificent. The gamut of emotions in Anderson's understated surprise is beyond.
Gillian Anderson was really good as Thatcher, and so was John Lithgow as Churchill, but I think the best and most interesting of Crown Prime Ministers was Wilson. He had an excellent chemistry with Olivia Colman in their scenes together and the most interesting storylines, especially the coup thing with Mountbatten and the KGB suspicions.
Apart from Churchill, Harold Wilson was Queen Elizabeth's favorite PM. Likely her least favorite was Tony Blair.
@@mtngrl5859 I agree with what you say about Blair!
Wilson was an excellent PM and not one all too known about than he should be, they did him a great service with this show.
@@mtngrl5859 It's weird that we can basically get the clip from The Queen movie for that interaction and it's in perfect canon with the Netflix series
Daniel day Lewis as Lincoln
Natalie Portman as Jacqueline Kennedy
"That is because, Am in hurry" Powerfull line👏
So good! We need more leaders with vigor
@Nick in order to save The country the quickest way possible. Which she did.
“You have power by doing nothing, I will have nothing” from 7:30 really hit me hard, I have yet to see this season but when the Queen asked her what she did with her father, knowing about Thatcher’s upbringing, I already knew she would reply working.
When The Queen honoured her with the medal (I'm not so sure what it was) I cried! It was such an intense, emotional and yet tender scene... I could feel Thatcher grievance while seeing her top goal to achieve.
yes and that was such a difference between the two women, was it not.... A great scene!!
in real political history they were a necessary yin and yang. Thatcher left to her own devices without the Queen would have been....Trump - the fact that she was such a dominant and sometimes overly exuberant personality, but in the British system, no one (pun intended) trumps QEII in an argument. It worked out well for both of them, and restored balance to both of them. Maggie waited a year to long to go - she would have left with more dignity had she done that.
@@Ale-ut9ek The Order of Merit is the highest award that can be given in the UK. It's a really big thing.
Thatcher is a polite personification of "Im sorry im not gonna take your bullshit"
Her performance is so amazing that I forgot she plays Jean Milburn in Sex Ed
And Dana Scully in X Files!
And bedelia of hannibal too
Stella Gibson in The Fall 😍
Also Media in American Gods
Lol me too. It's like a complete opposite person. She's amazing!
The crown totally missed the whole Reagan-Thatcher relationship, that was such an integral partnership in 80s politics. Funny how they touched on Kennedy and LBJ, but not this. Hmm
I have the small suspicion that the creators of the Crown are not to fond of the right, hence they didn't want to give some of the spotlight to one of the most influential Republican presidents but did gave 2 or 3 episodes to one of the biggest stars of the left.
It's about britain and its early history
@@karlvnshwp6407 The Crown focuses on the Royal Family, and it’s relationship with world events and leaders. That’s why we don’t see anything between Maggie and Reagan, but we do between Princess Margaret and LBJ. Also, I think this series treats political leaders with kid gloves, they could have been MUCH harsher on Thatcher, or Wilson, or even Churchill.
@@karlvnshwp6407 I gathered that too, replying to your first comment.
@@dansfilms7901 yes but they also touched extensively, especially in the early seasons, on foreign policy, and the US was a huge ally at the time, so they missed it and did a disservice to the viewers in my opinion.
Hands down a fantastic performance!! The look on her face when given the merit was beautiful, the bow and look of both women spoke volume!!
Watching these two actors together is an acting masterclass. Everyone though Season 4 would be all about Charles and Diana - but Gillian and Olivia soon put paid to that.
My love for her in X Files should have cemented my adoration towards her in everything else she plays as. Dana Scully is QUEEN
Gillian Carried that show. Duchovny is not a great actor.
Yes he is. Both made the success of the show
@@hothemeep1219 He really isn't. Notice how he never has won an emmy. Even for his own show where he was the lead and the part was tailored to him. Have you seen him in anything outside of xfiles. It's cringy.
Hani Hassan - A fellow X-Files fan? You have great taste. 8)
@@dianeyoung8130 It's not the trophies or the hundred of films that make the man. You can participate in 100 movies and be a shitty actor.
Duchovny in X-Files is a great actor and essential in it.
OMG! Gillian Anderson is mindblowing! I want to see more of her in such roles!
May I recommend the BBC's adaptation of Bleak House (Dickens) from several years ago. She's incredible.
Have you ever seen Princess Mononoke?? It’s an anime movie from 1997. She played the big mother wolf Moro
Phenomenal performance of Gillian Anderson. Give her that Emmy nomination
Are you for real?? She looks and sounds like Margaret Thatcher on her death bed....Margaret Thatcher was only 54 when she became Prime Minister, not a frail old lady she is portrayed to be in these series. Watch a couple of MT's interviews here on youtube and see for yourself, she was nothing like that in real life. I think Gillian Anderson was a poor poor choice for this role!
She’s the only reason I watch The Crown. Everytime she said “Your Majesty” with a deep voice, it really gave me the chills.
@@ollie7875 Ray Liotta looks nothing like and doesn't sound like Henry Hill
I still couldn't believe it's Gillian Anderson. When she says "your majesty" 🥴 chills down my spine.
bloody hell, her performance, the way she lengthens certain words, its just so well done. spot on infact, I hope she won a few awards for this because she has more than earned them
Funny reading about comments on Anderson’s voice and appearance as Thatcher. She’s an actor, not a mimic. She brought Thatcher’s gravitas to the screen. That’s quite an achievement for any performer.
Ye... cos its not important at all to sound like the person you are trying to portray :/ Really???
@@luciansanchez8100 Nope. Not really. Not as important as you might think. The thing about historical portrayals after the advent of nightly news, the internet and social media is that there’s an expectation that the actor must look and sound exactly like the true figure they are playing.
John Lithgow won an Emmy award and Gary Oldman won an Oscar for their respective portrayals of Winston Churchill. Their performances were miles apart from each other-does that mean that one was worse than the other? Or does it mean that actors are given license to act?
Ok so if voice portrayal is not important why does Gillian herself say that it is??
@@luciansanchez8100 I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not a Brit, but I did grow up during Thatcher’s term, and to me Anderson’s performance encapsulated that time, just as Olivia Coleman and Tobias Menzies have done the same for their roles. Anderson’s voice is, at last, her own voice, not Thatcher’s. We might as well criticize Vanessa Kirby for being taller than Princess Margaret.
She was not convincing as Thatcher. Meryl Streep was much better.
Gillian Anderson has single-handedly been the star and best actor this year for all movies in all categories and within The Crown, her and John Lithgow(both acting as PMs) are the best performers.
I loved John Lithgows Churchill much sunnier than Oldmans.
Totally agree! She and John are the best actors in the Crown. And I find John’s performance as Churchill better that Gary Oldman’s.
She simply knocked me off my chair with her performance, No words, I'm that amazed!
You could be owed compensation. Seek legal advice.
I felt sorry for Margaret Thatcher during the scenes when she and her husband were invited out the queens country house or wherever it was. The royals were so stuck up and the Thatchers were so humiliated.
Mostly fiction
It was fiction.
Probably one of the silliest stunts of season four.
Thatcher was a monster irl
I’m pretty sure that just served to create a contrast with Diana’s success at balmoral
Gillian Andersen is brilliant as Margaret Thatcher. She really nailed it. Her voice, her intonation, body language, even the way she sat when being given a private audience with the Queen...give her all the awards. I know this isn't a film, but hell, give her an Oscars, too!
PS: The casting director also deserves a shout.
She’s dating the showrunner.
I just loved how Thatcher dishes it to the Queen. Wonderful performance by Gillian.
3:54 I couldnt hold myself, I was bursting with laughter at this scene. The Balmoral test feels like a sorority 😂😂💀💀
lmaoo i didn’t thought abt that but that’s so accurate 😭😭
That entire episode is Thatcher being socially awkward around the Royal Family lol
Truly. The mean boys and girls club
Me too! That was the funniest scene of the season for me. The family were being unecessarilly mean and pedantic to her through the episode, but here I thought "what on earth was she thinking? Going stalking to the countryside in high heels and that bright blue suit" 😆
@@nazgullord3198 maybe its because she didnt want to go stalking in the first place and perhaps thought she would be excused from it if she wore such clothes haha
Gillian Anderson, you talented, incredible being. You connected us, the fans/the viewers with the essence of Margaret Thatcher throughout season 4 and such an amazing job you did at that!!! Bravo Netflix 👏🏽
Gillian Anderson is so talented. She's so underrated.
She gave me the chill... outstanding performance. Spot on. The best potrayal of Margaret Thatcher that I've ever seen.
💯
You left out her excellent speech of that great poem. “If you have none, small is the work that you have done”.
The Queen is almost like a guidance counselor and even a bit of a moral conscience to the government leaders, at least as she’s portrayed on this show. I can see the wisdom in that kind of role.
Wonder what she made of
Alexander Boris Bunter?
It's effective propaganda isn't it. In reality she was invested in ensuring that her family was outside of the laws affecting everyone else.... Scumbags
Yeah a guidance counselor who inherited their role, lives in a palace, and has the common people pay for her lifestyle.
yes yes, we should do away with those messy parliaments and whatnot, filled with showmen who simply speak to the common people's animalistic urges and fears. wise and visionary leaders, or führers as we call them, will know what is best for us.
But Thatcher needed none of that from her.
The Prime Ministers are the most interesting characters in this series.
Kinda wish the show was about them instead.
I’m very excited to see how they portray Blair and his youth in contrast to the Queen next season.
It's called the CROWN not the Parliament
@@jamesnotfound yes omg.
I think the show kinda is about them... Just it wouldn't we as catchy without "the crown" title
@@jamesnotfound I would like to see how they protrayed Blair and how he participate in the Iranian Conflict without any mass destruction weapons.
I hope to see that on this series.
Closed my eyes and there she was, BBC religiously every Wednesday questions to the PM. The wit, the clear and subtle mastery of the language, the PM was one of my favorite guilty pleasures while at the Sorbonne. ty Gillian hats off!
Love the bit where Thatcher is explaining the personal importance of her job and the deep sadness she feels in losing it. Especially explaining it to the person who’s complained from day one about having her own job.
Gillian really exceeded all the expectations. She deserves all the awards.
ridiculous comment...she was completely off in her portrayal of the Prime Minister
I really wish they would have covered the Brighton Bombing. I feel like that would have given Gillian more time to shine and show off more.
I also would have liked more on the IRA as a group but they didn’t have time 😬
Didint she do shitty stuff to the Irish while in office like they starved themselves to try and get her to leave them alone.
Yes.
The protests began before she was Prime Minister in 1976, when the Labour government withdrew special category status (ie. Irish republican prisoners were no longer prisoners of war, rather their status changed to criminals).
Yes! Especially in the aftermath where she iconically went towards the reporter's cameraman to repeat her statement that she intended for the conference later that morning to go on as planned.
She did such a good job that my mum who remembered well the entire Thatcher era was watching it with me and exclaimed "Ooooo god I hate her even more now than I did back then"
Yes, Thatcher was a truly nasty piece of work. She will have been told about Savile, but she still had him at Chequer's for Christmas for ten out of eleven consecutive years, even though her kids were young then.
Thatcher’s ghost came back as The Night King....💀
Ding dong the witch is dead
Your mother is an idiot
@@alan2007-x8x She was Savile's main protector (even more so than associates of the Kray twins and the Metropolitan Police).
The Palace were very reluctant to give Savile a knighthood but That her fixed it for him.
In the early eighties Geoffrey Dickens MP tried to alert the government to others iyf Savile's ilk in high places. The investigation was dropped and the file of evidence went missing.
Her attention to detail was amazing! She is one of the best actresses Iv ever seen. X
I thought Gillian Anderson was truly outstanding in her performance as Mrs. Thatcher! She clearly deserves an Emmy.
She clearly stole the show. I'll have to rewatch that season because her performance was so good.
My Mom met Madam Thatcher once. Prime Minister Thatcher visited our country (Srilanka) and mom was a school kid. Madam Thatcher started the biggest agricultural project in our country and our people, Farmers still depend on her project. Thank you Gillian (Scully) for this outstanding performance. We asians love Madam Thatcher. She save us. Create food safety in my country. ❤️
Well........... this comment aged like organic fertilizer.
Gillian Anderson is incredible as Thatcher. She even managed to nail the voice perfectly.
Maybe I'm the only one but I didn't think Thatcher's voice was that deep 100%. It seemed a little too forced unlike Streep.
@@lkez2 agreed. I love Gillian but having seen a lot of thatcher videos throughout the years, it's easy to see that her portrayal is more fitted as a caricature of maggie well after her time as prime minister, i.e. exaggerated voice, hair and expressions. Anderson played her very old, slow and frail when in reality, Thatcher in the 1980s was quick, assertive and independent.
@@gurlbye9942 I took it as deliberate and measured. A woman in control.
@@lkez2 Yes. It's the spirit of the Iron Lady that's represented here, not her flesh.
It must have been tiresome to keep that voice, I am exhausted just hearing it.
"You are trying to move too fast"
"... that is because I'm in a hurry."
Gillian Anderson needs more roles she’s fantastic
She just got her MUCH deserved Golden Globe!!!
I specially found interesting the episode where the Tatchers were invited for a weekend with the Royal Family at Balmoral Castle. It's so funny because despite them feeling awkward and out of place, it shows how ironically the Thatchers were more "Elegant and sophisticated" than the Royal Family itself. This is because they were a rich family from London, who was used to the life and style of a big city. In the other hand, the Royal Family, regardless of how rich and full of etiquette they were, still being country people. People born and raised in the countryside, where their hobbies, lifestyle and interactions were way different from those of people from the city. It was not so much related with highly educated politicians from London, but reminded more to the super old and ancient lifestyle of the former kings and royals from the Medieval Times, who lived in big castles in the fields and used to go ride horses, hunt, interact with animals and have long walks in the forest. A huge an interesting contrast.
Very good perception.
The Thatchers weren't from London I thought?
Thatcher grew up in Grantham, Lincolnshire@@laputa6464
@laputa6464 they weren't - Lincolnshire, where he owned the modern equivalent of a dairy or corner store. Her family also homed a Jewish teenager who escaped the Holocaust.
Now, for what she did to a generation of miners in the 80's, I'm sure she's in the right place now, but that's a pretty cool little tidbit.
@@fives.
Maggie T's father, Alf Roberts, was a shopkeeper in Grantham, near Nottingham but in true blue rural England. Denis T. was from SE London/ Kent area and had been a millionaire (at least in modern currency).
Gillian's work was admirable. So great! She amazed me every time Thatcher would come out in every episode.
Love or hate Thatcher she was truly iconic!
Is it just me or does Gillian Andersons Thatcher sound like that one Aunt who's a cigarette away from lung cancer...
True. Her voice is husky.
Yup, everyone is saying she nailed the voice but Thatcher's voice didn't sound like she was sick all the time.
Yes, I didn't watch any episode of the serie but clips of Anderson's portrayal of Thatcher and as a fan of Dana's Scully ( which brought me to be curious about her next venture) , I have to say that, personally, I didn't think her representation of the former prime minister was that true to the real one.
Anderson made it look like Thatcher was about 85 , slow and tired and from the few interviews that I watched, Thatcher sounded more energetic than that even at an older age...but got to give credit to Anderson for risking to divise anyway when acting such a historical character.
That’s a mild way of putting it. She sounds a few weeks away from a trach tube.
@S C At the very least she didn't sound like The Crowns depiction of her until after she suffered a stroke.
Brilliant, emotional, and very empathetic. Perhaps Gillian's greatest performance.
She gave this role a new twist. she made it her own. Meryl Streep made her own legacy with this role but Anderson is off to a great start! :)
Can't compare this actor's very stiff portrayal with brilliant Meryl Streep. Streep WAS Thatcher.
I really liked the Iron Lady, but this performance was magnificent in every way!
I thought Iron Lady was too kind to her though. You can be a terrible leader with awful opinions and still be empathetic as shown here. Iron Lady made her out to be kinder and the haters unfair in their judgment.
She was a good leader and did what was needed. She was not terrible and critics were generally unfair.
Don’t believe everything you read. That’s unsubstantiated by all records.
Actually no it’s not. The files released showed she used MI6 channels to conduct negotiations with the IRA during the Hunger Strike. I suggest you do some research rather than base your information on films.
@@jared3970
Is it difficult pretending to care about people who have done horrific things just to avoid admitting you're wrong?
Gillian Anderson did a superb job. Excellent
Gillian Anderson is amazing one of her finest ever performances!! Just amazing
Ibble Dibble, that was hilarious, one of the best scenes I've ever seen
I cringed SO hard but that's what makes the scene brilliant I guess x,D Oh the conflicting feelings...
@@christine-kht haha that's true, i was watching in a very silent room and i started laughing and people looked at me, because usually the episodes are serious and dramatic, i didn't think i would watch any scene like this one. Great show!
This will forever be the most outstanding portrait of Thatcher in cinematic history.
Meryl Streep was much better.
She deserves to have a series of her own with 11 seasons
She did. Maybe you've heard of The X Files? She has said she never wants to be tied down to one series like that again.
11 and a half wonderful seasons
Not gonna lie. I despise MT, but that final scene made me teary eyed. Gillian Anderson was so brilliant. And she had Meryl Streep level shoes to fill, and she did it beautifully.
Colman in 2011: MT's daughter
Colman in 2021: MT's queen
wheres the scene where she fought w the Queen over the newspaper allegations...and the poem she recited and when she stifled her cries when Geoffrey Howe resigned and her position is threatened....
those are the best ones
I got chills from her interrupting the queen because she was so mad about the newspapers
The one when she’s trying hard not to cry over her son but she still loses her shit had me in my feelings for her
@@kkandsims4612 samee, and also the one when she cries when all those bastards turned against her
Why did Margaret resign or did the queen basicall tell her im firing you? i dont get it did the queen allow her to bow out gracefully?
Here because she won Golden Globe 2021 for Best Supporting Actress! ❤️ Will go back here after she get an Emmy!
she did a brilliant job of the accent and tone of voice
Phenomenal performance I was left in shock. Just brilliant! Gillian is just amazing.
That look on her face when she receives the Order of Merit..... It is simply amazing.
For those of you who don't know as she points out it is an order that is given by the Sovereign in this case the queen and there are only 24 living members at any one time.
bro, i don't know why but just watching the clip at the end brought a tear. what a performace by the actor
As dislikable as Margaret Thatcher was, I just love her marriage chemistry with her husband. They got along so well in some of these scenes
they we’re the best couple in the crown imo
She was very likable in the show. Probably more than the queen for me, or are you talking about the real Margaret thatcher?
She was elected three times and was the longest serving PM in the 20th century for a reason. Movies can try to distort her legacy but they can't revise the truth.
@@ps3837 kinda both honestly.
yeah even if u hate/dislike Thatcher u can’t deny that the relationship she and her husband had was cute af 🥺
Gillian Anderson’s performance is incredible.
Did you even watch it? Watch a clip of Thatcher and then watch Anderson. It's absolutely nothing like her. It's embarrassingly awful.
@@dragan221 The point of her performance as an actress is not for her to simply be a mimic or do an impression. It is to create a stylized Thatcher that is true to the woman's essence while being compelling and interesting to watch.
@@nikk.1729 Exactly...
This might be the best performance of a historical leader ever. Jillian Anderson is just brilliant as Margaret Thatcher.
Gillian Anderson is such a good actor that whenever she was onscreen, a red mist descended behind my eyes.
You might wanna talk to a doctor about that.
With this amazing performance, Gillian Anderson has proved once and for all that she is truly a first rate actress.
She's literally my favorite character in the series.. Not for what she does but for her personality..
The sound and style Gillian Anderson portrayed Margaret Thatcher was genius. It made you listen to what she said and separated her from the common chatter.
From X Files to this....This woman deserves some serious awards ya'all
Yep. I remember her winning an Emmy for the X Files back in the day…
This is one of the most impressive powerful piece of acting skills I have ever seen. Hope that she gets recognized for this
She deserves every acting award possible, she was astoundingly amazing in the role.
The perfect showreel for this absolute mesmerizing performance by Gillian Anderson! Take note Emmy and Golden Globe voters!!!!
By far the best portrayal of the entire series
I absolutely adored Gillian Anderson in X Files, and now she’s portraying one of the strongest women in history, and did it stunningly. The voice and the faces and the walk. Give her an award.
She was perfect in every scene! Outstanding performance! And honestly everyone and everything in season 4 was perfect!
Not everybody is gonna love MT but she was definitely a passionate leader. Decisive and brave, no wonder she is dubbed the iron lady. After all a leader's job is not to be loved but to decide.
She "decided" to genocide the poors, yes
Not everybody is gonna love Adolf Hitler but he was definitely a passionate leader. Decisive and brave, no wonder he is dubbed the fuhrer. After all a leader's job is not to be loved but to decide.
When people say shit like you did its a liberal veil that hides the fact they dont dislike thatcher
The country is still trying to recover from the damage this dysfunctional monster did.
What an actress ! Anderson stole Colman's sparkle in the last scene, she has the power even with the bowing.