I love my Hellcat. I shoot it frequently and have put about 1000 rounds through it so far. Its snappy for sure, but totally manageable with some range time. I’m 5’10 165lbs and it’s super concealable, that’s what I love most about it.
You have a great understanding of the viewing experience. Your awareness to give the viewers what they clicked for rather than rambling on and not focusing on the content as some others do is appreciated. The still photo size comparison edits for one example are great for viewers and a lot of people skip right over it.
It just never ceases to amaze me how people want a single stack with a skinny grip for good concealment, but then all they do is complain about capacity. Then they end up sticking all these extended mags on there, which defeats the whole purpose.
I’m pretty recent to the ccw life style but I carried an xd-mod2 sub for over a year and it was nice and comfortable but decided to try the hellcat when it came out and I love this thing .... the difference in weigh and sizes only losing 2 rounds makes such a more comfortable day for me.... do wish I had a few more holster choices and the Hellcat is a bit snappy but still totally shootable but it shoots great I love the sights.
Very well put together video Hegshot, Love all the comparisons, Gives people a better idea of how big it is before they see one. Always enjoy your videos keep up the great work!!
But you can change the grip to the p365 xl put in the p365 then you will have a p365 with 12 rounds !!! With a way better grip support !!! Works the same and is amazing to shot !!!
why does everyone think small is the thing? Doesn't matter if you can barely hold on to a gun and hit your target well. I'll take a large gun I'm more proficient with any day over something that is tiny. Besides the trigger on the hellcat sucks compared to the P365. For me I stick to my G27, Walther PPSM2 and my Sig P365. The Walther actually feels more flush on my body than most.
My hellcat came with the extended mag and the standard mag with the extended base plate. So you should compare one and shoot one with those mags. Definitely makes a difference
What I love most about my hellcat is I get the capacity with the 15rd mag and the concealment all in a great shooting package with a nice aftermarket to boot
I started out with a 26gen4 as opposed to the widely endorsed G19. Later I acquired a 23gen4 and a bunch of other EDC-worthy units, like this Shield and Taurus G2c just to name a few. To this day I’d still bet my bottom dollar on the 26, the handgun on which I’m most proficient. The differences in dimensions are considerable enough to offer a substantial advantage when it comes to consistent daily carry... without much of a tradeoff when it comes to firepower. Maybe the only slight disadvantage is a marginally slower less positive draw since the 26 grip require a more secure grip when presenting.
Anytime someone asks me what I recommend for a carry gun or just a first gun in general, I always say the Glock 19! Was the first pistol I bought 6 years ago and it's the same pistol I carry to this day. I have some other smaller pistols but there's just something about my 19. It's my favorite do-all pistol.
You have shot both ? I want to pick up the shield later this week but was tempted by the Hell Cat. My M&P 9c has a great grip, I assume the shield is very similar. If it is less snappy I will go with the Shield.
@@bullfrogjay4383 I own a M&P Shield, Ruger EC9s and an XDS. I keep going back to the Shield. Even though its a thin single stack, it shoots incredibly well and handles recoil like a larger pistol. Yes people moan and groan about the stock trigger, but it doesn't bother me that much. Try to demo one, I think you be surprised.
Here's another for you. Kahr PM9 has Barrel 3.1", Overall Length 5.4", Height 4.0", Width .90", Capacity with flush mag is 6+1, Weight without mag 14oz.
This is my carry gun. I have installed the mag guts in my flush mounting magazine which now gives me 7 + 1. I can shoot out to 10 yards with good grouping and that's all I need for a carry gun. After 200 rounds of break in with my PM9 it's the most reliable gun I have.
@@johncaban4310 Glad you like the Kahr. I often carry one as well. After over 1,300 rounds its only had 1 failure to fully feed a round, otherwise no other issues. For a short while I thought Kahr had developed and was selling a 10 round mag for this gun, however I don't see it for sale on their web-site any longer. Must have had some issues. ENJOY!
The plus of the g26 and mp sc is the use of the larger magazines. If the hellcat has larger mags like 17 ish, then is choose our over the mp or 26. Great vid!
After carving my proverbial teeth on the Glock 26 and later attempting to train from the draw with my Shield9, I can say that with ultra concealable pistols, the trade off other than capacity is a swift secure grip every single time. Surprisingly I’ve found my Taurus G2c to hit that sweet spot. It’s got great capacity and its been utterly reliable... whats not to like?🤷🏻♂️. It may be looked down upon by neighsayers but its been a keeper for sure. I even filed down the mag to where the pinky rest doesn’t print as much now.
Hegshot87 ... keep up the good work HS87👍🏼.. yeah, the Taurus G2c is working quite well for me the more I train with it. To be completely honest, its failed to lock back on the last round on only 2 occasions when using Sig P226 mags. The more I shoot it the more I like it though. It’s a great piece for people with normal, non-large hands. I never got a G43 because I’m one of those who picked up an early release edition Shield9 back in the day. So far I continue to train from the draw using the Taurus, Shield9, and for nostalgic purposes... the G26. If I had to choose only one it’d be the 26 just because the track record, throughout history and with me. The less than stellar Taurus reputation from the past few decades is hard to forget... BUT the G2c is in a very close second place. BTW.. Mrs HegShot is really impressive lately with her mag dumps and follow up shots on steel.
I own a Taurus PT111 G2 and it doesn't get enough credit for its size and amount of rounds it holds. It's in that sweet spot of a sub-compact and single stack size almost all by itself. Just wish they would come out with a Pro version without a manual safety.
My favorite ccw. I use to carry the VP9 then the G2C and now the Helly is my edc. I still love my VP9 over the rest but for ccw, Hellcat is bar none the best.
I bought a Kel Tec P11 when it first came out (sadly, it was stolen--and that gun is no longer available in CA). For me, it was the perfect hideout CCW gun: it was accurate, totally reliable, and so light I often forgot I was carrying it. And it cost just over $230 with taxes. How come I don't see that gun compared to these new subcompact 9mms?
Just bought a Hellcat as a CCW. The recoil surprised me as a new shooter. But comfortable in my hand. Great comparisons. The difference maker for me is the capacity. 13+1 & 11+1 is amazing.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!!! MY LOCAL GUN SHOP CANNOT KEEP IN STOCK ANY OF THESE NEWER MICRO COMPACTS IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM TO COMPARE. HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA IT IS HOT !!! CCW IS NOT EASY !! I HAVE WANTED EITHER THE P365 or P365XL ?? BUT UNABLE TO ACTUALLY COMPARE THEM. YOUR VIDEO HELPS.
Come to Tampa we have them at every gun store I've been to...I've held both the XL and regular, prefer the XL but my girlfriend liked the regular version. Held the SAS version as well, the sighting system is fun but the barrel porting I don't feel is a good idea, sparks in your face is never fun.
Still carrying my beretta nano with a +1 Galloway mag extension. 7+1 with +p+ 124g ammo. I’ve tried to replace it a few times but always go back. Easy to conceal and I trust it. Everybody on RUclips hates the nano. I never could figure out why. It’s like a Smith and Wesson shield with a higher build Quality. Eventually I want to get the hellcat or the p365. Possibly the sig 239. Less ammo but an awesome pistol.
Thanks for the size comparison. I have had the opportunity to fire many of these at the range and find that none of them, except for the Glock 19, can compete with my Hk Vp9sk. These tiny guns need more weight to be fired well, not less. Yes, I carry every day and don't rue the extra weight.
Love my DB9GEN4 and love letting tactical dudes shoot it and watching them nearly break their wrists when they do that loose grip crap and try and shoot as fast as possible.
Awesome video, carry the Glock 19 everyday but it's to big to carry at work. Been looking at the db9 and now the hellcat has really caught my eye. Going to rent one to shoot at the range but you just made up my mind the hellcat it is if I like the way it shoots. Thank you again great video.
Great comparison video! In my experience I try and carry the handgun with the longest sight radius that I can comfortably conceal as I find that translates into more accurate first shots under speed/pressure. I currently (winter )EDC a Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0 Compact, about the size of a Glock 19 but superior to the G 19 IMHO. My summer EDC will be a Sig P365XL.
Excellent choices, however, for many iwb may not be the optimal method to carry concealed. I have a drawer of iwb holsters after discovering that I can effectively carry concealed owb. For me, I can carry a P320 compact effectively concealed easier and more comfortably owb than the P365 iwb. A proper kydex holster with the optional pancake belt loops and a quality gun belt. I'd never go back to iwb. "To each their own", but for many a consideration.
Great review! I purchased the Hellcat OSP early last year and then the Glock 26 gen5 later last year. I've put about 400 rds thru the Hellcat and about 250 rds thru the G26. With the Hellcat, it took a bit of practice to get comfortable with accuracy and recoil, and definitely improved after I put the red dot. I did experience some FTF issue which I attribute to a batch of ammo I used. However, the G26 shot really well on day one, stock, no issues thus far. There's a definate difference in weight and thickness as discussed here.. I carry the Hellcat with the extended mag (13+1) on days I want to go light with less printing. However, my favorite is G26 with extension (12+1) for reliability and accuracy. I have a G17 for home use, so the a spare 17 mag is nice to have. I'm very happy with both and glad I have options.
Good one.. The new shield is an option. XL is what I’m saving up for. Going to check out the new shield first though.. hellcat doesn’t do it for me personally.
It might not have been available when this video came out, but they have a 15 round magazine for the hellcat. In my opinion, it's better to have a smaller grip for concealment if you have a smaller hand for it, and the ability to get an extended magazine for more rounds if that's what you like. I've held the hellcat with a flush mag with the pinky extension and it fit my hand nicely. I will be saving up and hoping for a gear up promotion to get extra magazines. These comparison videos are nice and informative, but the true test is to handle the guns and see what suits you best.
You said the M&P sub-compact held 12+1 rounds...my 3.6" M&P sub-compact has 15 round magazines! And will take 17 round magazines with a sleeve extension. And I love it! I carry the M&P Shield and Sub-Compact.
Best choice for me. Sig365 XL Grip frame with standard 365 Slide. 12 rounds in the magazine, shorter slide length. Nit much of a difference from the Glock, but higher capacity.
I think it needs to be rethought a little bit, the glock 19 is the best all around handgun, but it really shouldn’t be the gold standard for a handgun exclusive concealed carry. A glock 26 with a grip extension can have the same handling characteristics and capacity but with that little bit of extra comfort when you’re trying to bend over when carrying appendix which seems to be in vogue right now. The only issue is the rail, they need to update the tlr-6 and make an hl version. Great video!
I have the P365, Hellcat, and 43X in my rotation. I think that the Hellcat is snappier than the P365, however, I love the factory grip and texturing more of the hellcat. The 43x really is in a separate category given the longer grip. 10+1 of the 43X wasn't too impressive but now with the Shield Arms S15 magazine for it, it's become my favorite carry gun.
If you take out the base plate on the mag in the Hellcat and put the pinky extension witch it brings you should be just the same length on the grip as the SIG XL 365. That way you make a real comparison .
Good video. I thought all this talk about the Hellcat was a fluke. I kept hearing about it. I went the range and shot it and couldn’t get my hands off it. I shot more accurate with it than my MP shield. I bought my Hellcat right after the range and carried it ever since
Outstanding review. With the current turmoil it’s difficult to find and try guns. I have been able to get my hands on a Hellcat. Now I can use the Hellcat as a point of reference for a small CCW.
@@taylorharless9251 I'm in the process of replacing the XDS 9 with my Hellcat, but you are sure right, the XDS doesn't get enough love. I admit I wanted the larger capacity. That said, I find the Hellcat is higher quality and that's saying something.
I rented a Hellcat and a sig P365 and shot them side by side. I wanted to buy the Hellcat, but after shooting 200 rounds I bought the P365. I liked the trigger and the softer recoil better than the Hellcat. Sig has a winner with the P365. The recoil isn't that bad. The Hellcat for me has that Glock recoil sting from the web down to the palm on my hand. The P365 shoots much softer. No Glock sting.
Thanks, these side by side comparisons are always useful -- and by necessity need to leave some things out! I was a little surprised about the omission of Kahr (PM9, CW9 especially) -- not too surprised at first since the other comparators had equivalent capacity but once the Shield and DB9 popped up, I wondered where the Kahrs were. Yup, older technology, yup need work to master (like all small guns) but once mastered, quite accurate and quite small!
Like the size of the hellcat but the grip texture is like the shield 2.0 which to me was like velcro on my shirts. I was constantly adjusting my shirt because it would stick to the handle. I use to carry the shield 45. But switched to the glock 26 for a little less grippy handle.
because they speak very little of the original capacity of the ammunition factory, without attachments. obvious always loses. apart from that, it is a very good design and comfortable for shooting and carrying
Ive had and carried my Glock 26 for over 15yrs with well over 30k rounds, no matter what comes out nothing will ever compare to the big dawg G26 to me... That said nothing and i mean NOTHING carrys like a Keltec P32 with just a belt clip... is the ONLY gun you can carry and truly not feel it... perfect in pajamas around the house, btw most people that have firearms are almost ALWAYS caught off guard while awake in a home invasion... P32 is a true 365, caliber war aside for the tough guys
I always enjoy your videos. I also like that you try to give input from various angles regarding people's different sizes and needs. I would love it if you could include a catagory for people with XL Hands and Fingers. Since I wear 2X shirts, the grip lengths aren't really my problem. My problem is Squeezing the trigger. I usually have to use the first crease below the pad of my finger, whech reduces how for back I can pull the trigger. Also a slightly longer slide is better for me to keep my fingers away form the mouth of the barrel. So wide grips and longer trigger reach are good things for me. When you show side by side of similar guns, try to get the camera angle to show trigger position. Thanks
Thanks for showing the p365 XL I stopped the video at that point. I do believe this is the one I've been looking for, I hope they got this one right $579 at Academy.
As along time M&P Shield 9mm Carry Guy I hop the the M&P Subcompact is not the Gun Smith & Wesson is throwing in the Ring with the HellCat/P365 because to me that would be incredibly Lazy!. they already had a version of the that Gun in 3.5" barrel, No one wanted it, it was too long in the slide & barrel for appendix carry so they reintroduce the same Gun with even a longer Slide & barrel?
Seth Clayburn On the contrary, I think they compare well, for the most part. The biggest issue against the M&P is the width. It fits nicely between the Hellcat and the G26 for size, which puts it in good company.
the 7 rd mags from Kahr are not reliable in most cases so really we are talking 6 + 1 for the cm and pm 9s that has been my experience with the car magazines I have the p.m. nine and I’m looking to get a hellcat my son-in-law has the sig p365 and that’s a great little pistol as well but I like to have as many rounds as possible with the smallest gun I can possibly get
Great review. I just wonder with all the recoil on how small the hellcat is, and also accuracy compared to the g19 or m2.0 compact. Overall, the hellcat next to the p365 are just super subcompact.
Personally, I feel more recoil with the smaller guns and I would say my groups aren't as good but in a self defense situation, I am confident in the smaller guns and center mass hits
P365xl is a great shooter but too big to deep conceal. If you carry a full sized gun you’ll like it. If you’re looking to not show period go with hell cat or G43 or p365.
John parker Hellcat is smaller, lighter and thinner. I was considering the 3” XD Mod 2 since I already own a 4” XD Mod 2 in 9mm. The size difference is what made me get the Hellcat as a CCW, plus I’m a smaller framed guy so it’d be much easier to conceal. If you’re average size or above you could probably more easily conceal the 3” XD Mod 2 than I could. Also, with the Hellcat you’re only sacrificing a few rounds compared to the 3” Mod 2 16rd extended mag. (Hellcat extended mag: 13+1)
I love my Hellcat. I shoot it frequently and have put about 1000 rounds through it so far. Its snappy for sure, but totally manageable with some range time. I’m 5’10 165lbs and it’s super concealable, that’s what I love most about it.
You have a great understanding of the viewing experience. Your awareness to give the viewers what they clicked for rather than rambling on and not focusing on the content as some others do is appreciated. The still photo size comparison edits for one example are great for viewers and a lot of people skip right over it.
Thank you
Nope he is an idiot
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 if you can do better take a shot at it smartass
Just bought a Hellcat yesterday............great little pistol.....
I bought mine Friday Lol
Today! Then delivery time in the next couple days!
Facts last week bro
bought mine today :) waiting for it to arrive.
My rdp cat pokes my gut I removed the wasp and compensator. Then I said fuk it put em back kn
It just never ceases to amaze me how people want a single stack with a skinny grip for good concealment, but then all they do is complain about capacity. Then they end up sticking all these extended mags on there, which defeats the whole purpose.
Bingo.
I’m pretty recent to the ccw life style but I carried an xd-mod2 sub for over a year and it was nice and comfortable but decided to try the hellcat when it came out and I love this thing .... the difference in weigh and sizes only losing 2 rounds makes such a more comfortable day for me.... do wish I had a few more holster choices and the Hellcat is a bit snappy but still totally shootable but it shoots great I love the sights.
Thanks for putting this together, I actually looked at the Hellcat yesterday at PSA. I’m saving up for it now!!
The Hellcat is an excellent pistol, you get used to the snappiness after a little range time.
Just bought one, feels awesome. Now can’t find enough ammo to shoot😤
Looking forward to some range time.
I am still carrying my Shield..........still as you said a good carry choice
I still have one but I never really liked it. I trust it though and that's what counts. I dont carry it though
Very well put together video Hegshot, Love all the comparisons, Gives people a better idea of how big it is before they see one. Always enjoy your videos keep up the great work!!
Thanks brother
@@Hegshot87 I think the S&W M&P 2.0 subcompact vs Taurus G2C would be an interesting comparison. Any thoughts?
But you can change the grip to the p365 xl put in the p365 then you will have a p365 with 12 rounds !!! With a way better grip support !!! Works the same and is amazing to shot !!!
why does everyone think small is the thing? Doesn't matter if you can barely hold on to a gun and hit your target well. I'll take a large gun I'm more proficient with any day over something that is tiny. Besides the trigger on the hellcat sucks compared to the P365. For me I stick to my G27, Walther PPSM2 and my Sig P365. The Walther actually feels more flush on my body than most.
I was thinking the same thing. I hate small guns. I carry a 43X but will carry a full size when I can.
My hellcat came with the extended mag and the standard mag with the extended base plate. So you should compare one and shoot one with those mags. Definitely makes a difference
I carry the Walther PPS M2. Love it!
thebes1 idiot pps v1 is better
What I love most about my hellcat is I get the capacity with the 15rd mag and the concealment all in a great shooting package with a nice aftermarket to boot
I’ve owned a glock 19 but never a 26. This vid got me thinking about one. Great videos!
I love my glock 27.. Same gun in .40
My brother carries a Glock 26 as his backup. He is a cop.
I started out with a 26gen4 as opposed to the widely endorsed G19. Later I acquired a 23gen4 and a bunch of other EDC-worthy units, like this Shield and Taurus G2c just to name a few. To this day I’d still bet my bottom dollar on the 26, the handgun on which I’m most proficient. The differences in dimensions are considerable enough to offer a substantial advantage when it comes to consistent daily carry... without much of a tradeoff when it comes to firepower. Maybe the only slight disadvantage is a marginally slower less positive draw since the 26 grip require a more secure grip when presenting.
Anytime someone asks me what I recommend for a carry gun or just a first gun in general, I always say the Glock 19! Was the first pistol I bought 6 years ago and it's the same pistol I carry to this day. I have some other smaller pistols but there's just something about my 19. It's my favorite do-all pistol.
The Shield is LESS snappy than the Hellcat and for me, the grip is more contoured to my hand. Feels good.
You have shot both ? I want to pick up the shield later this week but was tempted by the Hell Cat. My M&P 9c has a great grip, I assume the shield is very similar. If it is less snappy I will go with the Shield.
@@bullfrogjay4383 I own a M&P Shield, Ruger EC9s and an XDS. I keep going back to the Shield. Even though its a thin single stack, it shoots incredibly well and handles recoil like a larger pistol. Yes people moan and groan about the stock trigger, but it doesn't bother me that much. Try to demo one, I think you be surprised.
@@shotakuervo thank you for the input. I picked up the Shield yesterday and live it. Very accurate for the size, smooth shooter and easy to conceal.
When you leave your Glock 26 in the dryer too long.......*Wallah* ......Springfield Hellcat
Here's another for you. Kahr PM9 has Barrel 3.1", Overall Length 5.4", Height 4.0", Width .90", Capacity with flush mag is 6+1, Weight without mag 14oz.
This is my carry gun. I have installed the mag guts in my flush mounting magazine which now gives me 7 + 1. I can shoot out to 10 yards with good grouping and that's all I need for a carry gun. After 200 rounds of break in with my PM9 it's the most reliable gun I have.
@@johncaban4310 Glad you like the Kahr. I often carry one as well. After over 1,300 rounds its only had 1 failure to fully feed a round, otherwise no other issues. For a short while I thought Kahr had developed and was selling a 10 round mag for this gun, however I don't see it for sale on their web-site any longer. Must have had some issues. ENJOY!
@JusticeAA Sorry to hear you had issues. I hope you have found something that works for you. Stay safe.
great vid. glad i went with the m&p2.0 sc. gives me just as much concealability as hellcat but with the flexability of using 12,15, 17rd mags
I'm getting the hellcat😎😎😎
Too many to pick from I would love to have them all
The plus of the g26 and mp sc is the use of the larger magazines. If the hellcat has larger mags like 17 ish, then is choose our over the mp or 26. Great vid!
After carving my proverbial teeth on the Glock 26 and later attempting to train from the draw with my Shield9, I can say that with ultra concealable pistols, the trade off other than capacity is a swift secure grip every single time. Surprisingly I’ve found my Taurus G2c to hit that sweet spot. It’s got great capacity and its been utterly reliable... whats not to like?🤷🏻♂️. It may be looked down upon by neighsayers but its been a keeper for sure. I even filed down the mag to where the pinky rest doesn’t print as much now.
I'm glad you found something that works for you 👊
Hegshot87 ... keep up the good work HS87👍🏼.. yeah, the Taurus G2c is working quite well for me the more I train with it. To be completely honest, its failed to lock back on the last round on only 2 occasions when using Sig P226 mags. The more I shoot it the more I like it though. It’s a great piece for people with normal, non-large hands. I never got a G43 because I’m one of those who picked up an early release edition Shield9 back in the day. So far I continue to train from the draw using the Taurus, Shield9, and for nostalgic purposes... the G26. If I had to choose only one it’d be the 26 just because the track record, throughout history and with me. The less than stellar Taurus reputation from the past few decades is hard to forget... BUT the G2c is in a very close second place.
BTW.. Mrs HegShot is really impressive lately with her mag dumps and follow up shots on steel.
I own a Taurus PT111 G2 and it doesn't get enough credit for its size and amount of rounds it holds. It's in that sweet spot of a sub-compact and single stack size almost all by itself. Just wish they would come out with a Pro version without a manual safety.
I love my G26, but will fully admit I'm very interested in Springfields Hellcat.
@JusticeAA yes, But I can put any G17/19 mags into the G26. Honestly it's not capacities that has me intrested in the Hellcat it's the overall size.
My favorite ccw. I use to carry the VP9 then the G2C and now the Helly is my edc. I still love my VP9 over the rest but for ccw, Hellcat is bar none the best.
I bought a Kel Tec P11 when it first came out (sadly, it was stolen--and that gun is no longer available in CA). For me, it was the perfect hideout CCW gun: it was accurate, totally reliable, and so light I often forgot I was carrying it. And it cost just over $230 with taxes. How come I don't see that gun compared to these new subcompact 9mms?
6ft tall 220lb that was weird I felt like you where talking directly to me lol
I thought he was talking about my mom.🤪
I carried the hell cat With 15 round magazine in it which makes it a lot more comfortable
Just bought a Hellcat as a CCW. The recoil surprised me as a new shooter. But comfortable in my hand. Great comparisons. The difference maker for me is the capacity. 13+1 & 11+1 is amazing.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!!!
MY LOCAL GUN SHOP CANNOT KEEP IN STOCK ANY OF THESE NEWER MICRO COMPACTS IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM TO COMPARE.
HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA IT IS HOT !!! CCW IS NOT EASY !!
I HAVE WANTED EITHER THE P365 or P365XL ?? BUT UNABLE TO ACTUALLY COMPARE THEM.
YOUR VIDEO HELPS.
Come to Tampa we have them at every gun store I've been to...I've held both the XL and regular, prefer the XL but my girlfriend liked the regular version. Held the SAS version as well, the sighting system is fun but the barrel porting I don't feel is a good idea, sparks in your face is never fun.
Still carrying my beretta nano with a +1 Galloway mag extension. 7+1 with +p+ 124g ammo. I’ve tried to replace it a few times but always go back. Easy to conceal and I trust it. Everybody on RUclips hates the nano. I never could figure out why. It’s like a Smith and Wesson shield with a higher build Quality. Eventually I want to get the hellcat or the p365. Possibly the sig 239. Less ammo but an awesome pistol.
Great review. Love that you did several comparisons so viewers can make an informed choice
Thanks Wendy!
Thanks for the size comparison. I have had the opportunity to fire many of these at the range and find that none of them, except for the Glock 19, can compete with my Hk Vp9sk. These tiny guns need more weight to be fired well, not less. Yes, I carry every day and don't rue the extra weight.
Love my DB9GEN4 and love letting tactical dudes shoot it and watching them nearly break their wrists when they do that loose grip crap and try and shoot as fast as possible.
Awesome video, carry the Glock 19 everyday but it's to big to carry at work. Been looking at the db9 and now the hellcat has really caught my eye. Going to rent one to shoot at the range but you just made up my mind the hellcat it is if I like the way it shoots. Thank you again great video.
I carry a 43X- lightweight and have no concealability issues with small-of-back IWB carry- plus it's a great range gun, very pleasant to shoot.
Still like my Ruger LC9S !!!
jpb1231000 your ruger lc9s is a pos
very good video, the 9mm beretta apx carry is missing in the comparison, greetings from Chile
Congratulations on 100k brother. Been following you for awhile now and always enjoyed your take on reviews. Take care and stay blessed
Great comparison video! In my experience I try and carry the handgun with the longest sight radius that I can comfortably conceal as I find that translates into more accurate first shots under speed/pressure. I currently (winter )EDC a Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0 Compact, about the size of a Glock 19 but superior to the G 19 IMHO. My summer EDC will be a Sig P365XL.
why would you need ANY sight radius on a CCW??
@@bassdaze Why don't you go ask Eli Dickens?
Excellent choices, however, for many iwb may not be the optimal method to carry concealed. I have a drawer of iwb holsters after discovering that I can effectively carry concealed owb. For me, I can carry a P320 compact effectively concealed easier and more comfortably owb than the P365 iwb. A proper kydex holster with the optional pancake belt loops and a quality gun belt. I'd never go back to iwb. "To each their own", but for many a consideration.
Owb is way better than iwb anyday.
In Florida a t-shirt with a button open shirt on top I carry a FNS9c owb and its invisible.
Great review! I purchased the Hellcat OSP early last year and then the Glock 26 gen5 later last year. I've put about 400 rds thru the Hellcat and about 250 rds thru the G26. With the Hellcat, it took a bit of practice to get comfortable with accuracy and recoil, and definitely improved after I put the red dot. I did experience some FTF issue which I attribute to a batch of ammo I used. However, the G26 shot really well on day one, stock, no issues thus far. There's a definate difference in weight and thickness as discussed here.. I carry the Hellcat with the extended mag (13+1) on days I want to go light with less printing. However, my favorite is G26 with extension (12+1) for reliability and accuracy. I have a G17 for home use, so the a spare 17 mag is nice to have. I'm very happy with both and glad I have options.
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Good one.. The new shield is an option. XL is what I’m saving up for. Going to check out the new shield first though.. hellcat doesn’t do it for me personally.
It might not have been available when this video came out, but they have a 15 round magazine for the hellcat. In my opinion, it's better to have a smaller grip for concealment if you have a smaller hand for it, and the ability to get an extended magazine for more rounds if that's what you like. I've held the hellcat with a flush mag with the pinky extension and it fit my hand nicely. I will be saving up and hoping for a gear up promotion to get extra magazines. These comparison videos are nice and informative, but the true test is to handle the guns and see what suits you best.
You said the M&P sub-compact held 12+1 rounds...my 3.6" M&P sub-compact has 15 round magazines! And will take 17 round magazines with a sleeve extension. And I love it! I carry the M&P Shield and Sub-Compact.
You have the 3.6 compact. Not a subcompact. Either way, love the gun!
@@BRDMKZ there's a 3.6 2.0 subcompact now that can take 15 or 17 round Magazines
Looking forward to the M&P 2.0 Subcompact review, especially if there is a comparison with the P-10 S.
Great comparisons, helped me make up my mind, thanks.
KAHR CM9 at $250 is really hard to beat and much more recoil friendly than the DB9.
Best choice for me. Sig365 XL Grip frame with standard 365 Slide. 12 rounds in the magazine, shorter slide length. Nit much of a difference from the Glock, but higher capacity.
I actually bought a P365 SAS yesterday. I didn’t like the way the Hellcat felt in my hand.
I think it needs to be rethought a little bit, the glock 19 is the best all around handgun, but it really shouldn’t be the gold standard for a handgun exclusive concealed carry. A glock 26 with a grip extension can have the same handling characteristics and capacity but with that little bit of extra comfort when you’re trying to bend over when carrying appendix which seems to be in vogue right now. The only issue is the rail, they need to update the tlr-6 and make an hl version. Great video!
great video, thank you for that. I know it seems like a really long time ago but the shield came out in late 2012 or early 2013.
I have the P365, Hellcat, and 43X in my rotation. I think that the Hellcat is snappier than the P365, however, I love the factory grip and texturing more of the hellcat. The 43x really is in a separate category given the longer grip. 10+1 of the 43X wasn't too impressive but now with the Shield Arms S15 magazine for it, it's become my favorite carry gun.
If you take out the base plate on the mag in the Hellcat and put the pinky extension witch it brings you should be just the same length on the grip as the SIG XL 365. That way you make a real comparison .
Man this help me a lot! Thanks!!
That there is a pile of pretty, thank you for the review
Good video. I thought all this talk about the Hellcat was a fluke. I kept hearing about it. I went the range and shot it and couldn’t get my hands off it. I shot more accurate with it than my MP shield. I bought my Hellcat right after the range and carried it ever since
Outstanding review. With the current turmoil it’s difficult to find and try guns. I have been able to get my hands on a Hellcat. Now I can use the Hellcat as a point of reference for a small CCW.
Why you didn't show the Springfield armory xds it came out around the same time as the s&w shield and was considered a better ccw
I carry an Xds 4.0 many times throughout the year. Excellent gun that doesn't get enough love
@@taylorharless9251 I'm in the process of replacing the XDS 9 with my Hellcat, but you are sure right, the XDS doesn't get enough love.
I admit I wanted the larger capacity.
That said, I find the Hellcat is higher quality and that's saying something.
I rented a Hellcat and a sig P365 and shot them side by side. I wanted to buy the Hellcat, but after shooting 200 rounds I bought the P365. I liked the trigger and the softer recoil better than the Hellcat. Sig has a winner with the P365. The recoil isn't that bad. The Hellcat for me has that Glock recoil sting from the web down to the palm on my hand. The P365 shoots much softer. No Glock sting.
Taurus gx4, amazing pistol, 200$ cheaper than hellcat and 365!
This video is amazing! Probably would have picked a 365xl over the hellcat if I had seen this sooner
Would like to see it next to a pps m2
Got rid of my Glock 43 and got the Sig P365XL. Can’t go wrong with it. Can’t wait to add a red dot.
I have the Walther ppq sc.
It's a great gun.
Thanks, these side by side comparisons are always useful -- and by necessity need to leave some things out! I was a little surprised about the omission of Kahr (PM9, CW9 especially) -- not too surprised at first since the other comparators had equivalent capacity but once the Shield and DB9 popped up, I wondered where the Kahrs were. Yup, older technology, yup need work to master (like all small guns) but once mastered, quite accurate and quite small!
Like the size of the hellcat but the grip texture is like the shield 2.0 which to me was like velcro on my shirts. I was constantly adjusting my shirt because it would stick to the handle. I use to carry the shield 45. But switched to the glock 26 for a little less grippy handle.
because they speak very little of the original capacity of the ammunition factory, without attachments. obvious always loses. apart from that, it is a very good design and comfortable for shooting and carrying
Great review. I wish you had a Canik TP9 Elite sc. That looks like a true competitor.
I'm interested in the Hellcat.
Sold me on it
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Great review, thanks
Hellcat is also made overseas in Croatia as well. P365 MIA
Ive had and carried my Glock 26 for over 15yrs with well over 30k rounds, no matter what comes out nothing will ever compare to the big dawg G26 to me... That said nothing and i mean NOTHING carrys like a Keltec P32 with just a belt clip... is the ONLY gun you can carry and truly not feel it... perfect in pajamas around the house, btw most people that have firearms are almost ALWAYS caught off guard while awake in a home invasion... P32 is a true 365, caliber war aside for the tough guys
Thanks, helped a lot.
The Shield has been out since 2012.
Glock G43 is still smaller for conceal carry. You can get a +1, +2, +3, +4 and still lighter and thinner.
I always enjoy your videos. I also like that you try to give input from various angles regarding people's different sizes and needs.
I would love it if you could include a catagory for people with XL Hands and Fingers.
Since I wear 2X shirts, the grip lengths aren't really my problem.
My problem is Squeezing the trigger.
I usually have to use the first crease below the pad of my finger, whech reduces how for back I can pull the trigger. Also a slightly longer slide is better for me to keep my fingers away form the mouth of the barrel.
So wide grips and longer trigger reach are good things for me.
When you show side by side of similar guns, try to get the camera angle to show trigger position.
Thanks
Excellent review their all great guns I chose the hellcat osp because its optics ready
HellCat might be too small for me. Thanks for the in-depth overview.
With the extended mag its about the same height as the Shield with the flush fit mag. You might wanna check it out.
43x with the s15 mag is my go to
I got the m&p shield 2.0 and 509 compact that I carry mostly
This video is very helpful. Thank you
Thanks for showing the p365 XL I stopped the video at that point. I do believe this is the one I've been looking for, I hope they got this one right $579 at Academy.
As along time M&P Shield 9mm Carry Guy I hop the the M&P Subcompact is not the Gun Smith & Wesson is throwing in the Ring with the HellCat/P365 because to me that would be incredibly Lazy!. they already had a version of the that Gun in 3.5" barrel, No one wanted it, it was too long in the slide & barrel for appendix carry so they reintroduce the same Gun with even a longer Slide & barrel?
Seth Clayburn On the contrary, I think they compare well, for the most part. The biggest issue against the M&P is the width. It fits nicely between the Hellcat and the G26 for size, which puts it in good company.
With the MagGuts +2 gives you 10+1 and you could buy 2 S&W M&P Shields for the price of that Hellcat.
Kahr CM9 for the win.
the 7 rd mags from Kahr are not reliable in most cases so really we are talking 6 + 1 for the cm and pm 9s that has been my experience with the car magazines I have the p.m. nine and I’m looking to get a hellcat my son-in-law has the sig p365 and that’s a great little pistol as well but I like to have as many rounds as possible with the smallest gun I can possibly get
Very good thanks!
Great review. I just wonder with all the recoil on how small the hellcat is, and also accuracy compared to the g19 or m2.0 compact. Overall, the hellcat next to the p365 are just super subcompact.
Personally, I feel more recoil with the smaller guns and I would say my groups aren't as good but in a self defense situation, I am confident in the smaller guns and center mass hits
These micro/compact pistols can be difficult for precision shooting but for combat accuracy I love my NRA P365.
Love the size.. Don't like the fact IT'S NOT MADE in the USofA😥
P365xl is a great shooter but too big to deep conceal. If you carry a full sized gun you’ll like it. If you’re looking to not show period go with hell cat or G43 or p365.
The felt recoil on the sig p365 isn't bad at all. I haven't shot the hellcat, but I would bet it is also not bad either
Thanks for this, helpful
Kahr has a whole series of guns much smaller than the Hellcat. My wife can't carry the Hellkitty because she prints. So she carries the smaller PM9.
I like that sig xl for sure
Taurus g3c is also a good choice!
What about a Springfield xd mod 2 3” sub compact?
John parker
Hellcat is smaller, lighter and thinner. I was considering the 3” XD Mod 2 since I already own a 4” XD Mod 2 in 9mm. The size difference is what made me get the Hellcat as a CCW, plus I’m a smaller framed guy so it’d be much easier to conceal.
If you’re average size or above you could probably more easily conceal the 3” XD Mod 2 than I could. Also, with the Hellcat you’re only sacrificing a few rounds compared to the 3” Mod 2 16rd extended mag. (Hellcat extended mag: 13+1)
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sheild arms makes a flush fitting 15 round mag for the glock 43x